Angel aka joe :I thought you said you believed you were being purified by giving sb bjs.

Don't split my sentences to give half truths.
I said cash or kind.see how cunning you are trying again to put words in my mouth. I never said I thought I believed I was being purified. Stupid.
I said baba told me so.
Now Angel Aka Joe is trying to make me contradict myself. I will contradict only if I was creating the whole story and so he has been asking very stupid and dumb questions and making a fool of himself.

/m2098
started the same thing.

 /m2097
the whole message is a copy of what someone by name antony wrote in 'Sai baba - anti christ??
 and it is not mine.

Angel (hariharan)
Why is that you don't ask Lisa any of your silly questions?? Like, where do you live ?? Are a devotee or not?? etc., ( I am not able to go more silli than this) Is it because you are on the same side?? She is a Kindergarten drop out and every time I mention that she would immidietely say she went to college

ha ha ha

Angel aka Hariharan, You say you had Baba entering through your back.Why did you allow that??

Edited by author 02-13-2007 08:08 PM
/m2096

This just another example of how the drunkard's story changes constantly. He is posting on the other board as Bill Dexter and probably cannot keep his stories straight about who he is pretending to be. Remember not only did he claim he gave God (Baba) blow jobs because he thought it would purify him but he then claimed he was scared and would hide from Baba at darshan. Now he is claiming he did sex for cash (roll eyes).

Like I said, the dummy cannot even keep his timeline straight. That is why he has to keep playing avoidance mind games and jumping around like a hot potato thinking he is actually fooling anyone.

It's funny watching him chase his tail and dig his hole even deeper than it already is. Now we are just waiting for him to fall into the hole he has already dug for himself.

What a dummy.


This page will show what a fraud and hypocrite usedbybaba aka usedcrybaby is:

USEDBYBABA EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED ANONYMOUS WHACKO ATTACKING SAI BABA

Edited by author 03-04-2008 11:55 PM
/m2092

Tony and usedcrybaby are so dumb they think telling the same lies over and over again are going to make them true!


Tony O'Clery has a VERY long history of alcohol and drug abuse (along with a very obnoxious and big mouth). He admitted to being an Australian gigilo in his checkered past and still, to this day, talks like a sex worker and bar fly who still lives in a brothel and hangs out at bars. Nothing he says can be trusted as he seems to be inebriated and irrational most of the time.


Why are you people so perpetually stupid and
crooked? Idi Amin was NOT a dictator at the time Sai Baba went to Uganda you stupid dolts! He was a general who had served his country for over twenty years and no one EXCEPT Sai Baba had an inkling of the terrible events to come YEARS later. And WHY would Swami, an Asian himself, side with a monster who targeted Sai Baba's own countrymen for genocide you racist retards! Stupid dysfunctional white men like you are an embarrassment to all sane white people! Sai Baba went to Uganda to WARN his devotees, Dr. Patel (who was Idi Amin's doctor) and Dr. Gadhia to LEAVE the country a full THREE years before Amin turned into a mad man. Amin's aberrant behavior, like yours Tony, was probably due to too much alcohol/and or drugs. So obviously Sai Baba knew Amin, like you, was a wacko.

Read Dr. Gadhia's testimonial which is much more compelling than hatemonger Tony O'Clery's obviously racist drivel:

"Chatting informally with us, Swami said, 'your time in this country is up. Move out of this country for good at once. Sell whatever you have here and deposit the money abroad'.

We were all taken aback. We were there for decades. It was like our motherland for all practical purposes. How to leave it? Where should we go? But when Swami said so, there was no other go.

Keeping my faith fully in Swami's words, I sold away my property and deposited the money in a Bank in London quickly. My parents also were anxious to follow suit, but to wind up business and to sell it away could not be done in a huff.

In 1972, Idi Amin staged a military-coup. He became a dictator and issued a warning to all Asians to quit the country within 90 days leaving every thing behind. Those who stayed back violating this order would be doing so only at their peril. Fortunately, Swami forewarned us about the bad times ahead well in advance. I decided that we should not delay our departure till the period of 90 days allowed, but leave for the UK immediately.

I wanted to go to my parents and hasten them personally. While I was driving to my parents' place, I was stopped by a Military Picket enroute. One of the soldiers with a machinegun came to me and said, 'you have weapons in your car?' I replied in the negative. He searched the car and found none. Yet he did not leave. He ordered me to get down and walk into the roadside bushes, threatening to shoot me. I tried to plead with him to leave me but in vain.

At that time, an African taxi-driver going that side saw me. He knew me. He came to the soldier, and tried to intervene to save me. But the soldier was in no mood to relent and threatened him also. The taxi-driver was frightened and drove away. With this last chance of rescue proving futile, I broke down before the soldier pleading to let me go. He kept the gun on my chest and said. 'What is your last wish?'

'Let me go and see my parents and family', I replied.

'No', he refused flatly, 'Smoke, if you like'. He offered a cigarette.

'I don't smoke', I said.

'Pray for the last time', he said, 'I will give you two minutes'.

I put my hand into my pocket and took out the visiting card of Swami. It may be recalled that, in one of the interviews before my leaving India, Swami materialized it and gave it to me.

'Keep this', Swami told me at that time, 'always with you. Don't put it in the Pooja room.'

It had a Photograph of Swami on it. I started praying to Him frantically.

'Who is that God you are praying to?' The soldier took the visiting card from my hands and read:

'Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Bhagavan, Puttaparthi, Penukonda Tq, Anantapur District'.

I don't know what happened to him. He returned the card to me, and said 'Go!'

I returned hurriedly to my car, but was too shaken to drive. Just at that time, a military jeep came there. The local taxi-driver, who had tried to intervene to save me, went and reported the matter to the Local Commander who knew me. That Commander rushed to the spot to save me.

'How are you Doctor!', he enquired as he got down from his vehicle, 'what can I do for you!'

'I am OK', I replied, 'but I am not in a fit condition to drive. Kindly get me dropped at my house'.

My wife was very anxious at home. She was praying all the time for my safe return. When I got back safely, she heaved a sigh of relief.

We immediately informed our people about what had happened and conveyed to them our decision to leave. 'We are going', I told my parents. 'After what happened today, it is foolish to stay here. Come with us at once. We are going whether you come or not'.

We all left Uganda for the UK in October 1972. In England, we found the Government and the people very sympathetic to us. We had offers of free accommodation from nearby places. I bought a house with the money I had in the Bank and started practicing medicine. By Swami's grace, I could open a Hospital in London in due course. Gradually I settled all my people there in various vocations.

In 1978, I was at Puttaparthi. Swami called me for an interview and said, even before I opened my mouth, 'I saved your life.'"


Not much difference between your behavior and Amin's, Tony. One can easily see if given the least power that you would be raping and pillaging just as you are already doing on the internet ya pervert.

And Dorothy left her testimony on a video tape saying Sai Baba healed her of her arthritis and then a few years later she had a stroke you lying piece of garbage. After all, she was in her 80's and nobody expects Baba to stop the aging process except you I guess. The fact that you are so interminably DUMB and do not do ANY objective research at ALL speaks volumns as to your lack of credibility. Then on top of that there is your wishy-washy, mealy-mouthed, two-faced, contradictory statements which are on record for the whole world to see. Face it Tony, you are so lacking in credibility even children can see what a con artist you are.

This is just one more of many of the anti-Sai lies which show how idiotic and flagrantly crooked and racist they are. It is looking more and more like Tony and his gang of thugs are a bunch of racists, some of who are wannabe actors with acting backgrounds, who may have been paid as actors to come in to discredit the organisation. Pittard, Larsson, the Rahms, Neptune and O'Clery all are Hollyweird wannabes who think they are going to become rich and famous talking trash.

Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 02-13-2007 08:56 PM
ubb:
"I never said I thought I believed I was being purified. Stupid.
I said baba told me so."
____________________

But ,then why did you give sb bjs for a few times,WHY did you do it ?????,.... if you didn't believe him and if it wasn't for the cash??
For what reason ?

Edited by author 02-13-2007 09:18 PM
/m2107

I see usedcrybaby is still trying to dig himself out of the hole he has dug.


Angel, I already told you that when he did it for the first time to me he was an expert in handling people and i was just a young boy in college totally trusting him and worshipping him like what u are doing now or even more.I am not talking about ur devotin and comparing it to mine, i was physically in his place, hearing his dicourses people always talking of miracles. What would be my faith? When he did it for the first time, i was so devoted i felt all my sins are gone once he touched my privete part. it took years to undrestand that he was actually exploiting me. For some students, they were smart enough to understand
this and immediately either ran away from parthi or hid from him during darshan
or had to bear with it so that they would not lose their education.some of them
used baba and got their work done, like getting into MBA or jobs and partly they
enjoyed having sex with him. I was confused for a long time and he troubled me like hell indirectly.I did not lose faith in him and that made him cool down a little. I
could not have sex with my divine lord. that was something i could not do... i was not a hypocrite. most of the students do not know about baba, because if we talk they will be perturbed and immediately tell the warden or write to baba.and we wil be out. so it was generally only those who were exploited who talked with each other.and that too only close friends. Even now there are students who believe that BaBa is doing the sex thing for some divine reason.

Imagine that, an "innocent" young boy in college who thinks giving blow jobs to God will purify him!!!

I do not remember the date etc., come on how can you ask some one who was treated shabbily and moreover i do not know the date on which i understood that he was not my God. Imagine you worship someone for years and he starts talking
to you. You are in absolute awe of him."GOD" HAS TALKED TO YOU OUT OF SO MANY PEOPLE.NOW HE TELLS YOU THAT IT IS ALRIGHT TO HAVE SEX WITH HIM.SEX IS SUCH AN INSTINCT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH AND WITH WHOM IT IS CORRECT.YOUR VALUES CAN CHANGE ACCORDING TO YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES. when"GOD" TELLS YOU HE IS CORRECT(BUT U THINK OF HIM DIFFERENTLY AND SO YOU ARE CONFUSED) THAT IS THE REASON SOME DON'T MIND IT SOME RUN AWAY IMMEDIATELY AND SOME OTHERS GET CONFUSED AND THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ENJOY THE ACT AND ALSO USE THE PLACE FOR THEIR CONTACTS, UNIVERSITY DEGREES,JOBS AND EVEN MARRIAGE.

Edited by author 02-13-2007 09:27 PM
usedbybaba wrote:
"When he did it for the first time, i was so devoted i felt all my sins are gone"

usedbybaba wrote:
"I never said I thought I believed I was being purified. Stupid.
I said baba told me so."

_____________________________________


contradictions

Edited by author 02-14-2007 04:17 AM
/m2109

The wacko started changing his story as soon as I pointed out how ridiculous it sounded. Apparently he is too dumb to realize how idiotic he sounds to people who REALLY know what Swami teaches and actually have a brain.
Notice too how he tries to imply that everyone else who has had postive experiences with Swami has disengaged their brain and is a supposed zombie (like he claims he was) when he couldn't be farther from the truth. That is why he is getting the crap knocked out of him regarding his lies.
Nobody who lived in the ashram for ten years would be spouting the perverted sexual garbage usedpervert is trying to pass off as "truth". The only people spouting this kind of garbage are outsiders who were considered by Swami to be trouble-makers. People are with Swami 24/7 as witnesses.

Notice too how usedcrybaby is trying to claim he lived in Puttaparthi as a child but mentions nothing about going to school there. In short, his story NEVER adds up because he is an obvious liar.

BTW, why is usedcrybaby posting with a seemingly white guy's name as Bill Dexter? Is he trying to give people the impression he is a white guy or what? Or is he really a white guy who has been pretending to be an Indian all this time?

read wikipedia to see idi was in charge of persecutions long before 72.

Edited by author 03-12-2008 04:03 AM
/m2111

Tony the glutton for punishment NEVER shuts up.

Whatever Amin was Baba obviously knew it you racist thug. Why else would he tell people to leave the country a full three years before Amin overthrew the government? Now get a life before you end up in jail for being so corrupt.

Interesting that Amin was TRAINED militarily by the British Colonials. That wouldn't have anything to do with his penchant for pushing Asians around would it, duh Tony? So your buddies the Brits were pally pal with Idi Amin and may have had something to do with his sordid and illicit behavior. No wonder you didn't want to post the link to his wikipedia article when it puts egg all over your face again.

Hmmm...could it be true?

In 1971, while Obote was abroad, Idi Amin staged a successful military coup(widely believed to have been planned and supported by Britain), and took over as Uganda's president.

British sponsorship of Idi Amin, was quickly evident. Britain was one of the first countries in the world to recognize the Idi Amin government.

When relations with Britain eventually turned bad, a British intelligence operative remained as Amin's mentor in Uganda until the end.

Apparently, paralumun.com hasn't gotten the news that Amin died in Saudia Arabia a few years ago.


Then there is your buddy, Duncan Roads who was pally pal with Qadafi who helped Amin escape Uganda and let him live in Lybia. How come we don't hear anything from you about that you flaming hypocrite? But if Amin had ended up in Baba's ashram we'd sure be hearing you whine like the limp-wristed drama queen that you are about it.

Tony O'Clery the Hatevaitin Exposed

Edited by author 02-14-2007 04:21 PM
where is usedbybaba?
he's mute today.
he's got nothing to say about this
/m2109

Edited by author 02-15-2007 12:35 AM
Angel aka Hariharan, You say you had Baba entering through your back.Why did you allow that??

Angel"well ,aren't you a jokster."

usedbybaba:Well are you not Angelina Jolie

Angel: "Well... I look similar"
usedbybaba:OH ya ya Now I know why a girlish looking male is not unhappy that Baba is gay and a molester at that
________
Angel:I'm really tall and strong.Girls aren't.
Why would i be unhappy?
i don't recall saying i believe you.

usedbybaba: So you look like a tall girl but you are a man.Is it??
or Do you mean You are a girl who is tall and looks like Angelina joe(li)
bot other women are not as tall as you are. Any how you are either a girlish man or a boyish girl.

Angel: I am neither ( a boy or a girl)

/m2109

Both were different things and as usual Angel aka Hariharan does not understand English.I do not have to answer self confessed neuters

Edited by author 02-15-2007 12:29 AM
Edited by author 02-13-2007 05:10 AM

EXPOSED EXPOSED

No need to up date . JOELISA have nothing else to say except repeating the same thing again and again

These messages will show what a fraud Joe and His friend Lisa are.
/m2115 Angel confesses that he is neither a male nor a female
/m2047 /m2086 Angel and Lisa try to mislead people by twisting my words.
/m2036-- Miracles.Are they really true.I don't believe it.
/m2002 /m2007 /m2015 - Joe and Lisa agree that Baba is a molester
/m1988-Lisa proves she is stupid again
/m1921- Lisa the Goebbels
/m1743 – Joe’s so called “usedbybaba exposed” and My reply
/m1760—joe’s love for biker babies
/m1759—joe tries to confuse on what Veer Sangvi wrote in Hindustan Times
/m1748 – coo2 is put on truth serum
/m1746- proof that Lisa cannot discuss but only abuse
/m1719—Real meaning of WATCH – watch your words etc.,
/m1713 – SB on truth serum
/m1710 – SB on truth serum again
/m1706 – SB’s Advice to Lisa, When he was intoxicated
/m1702 – SB notices Lisa trying to find out about usedbybaba
/m1696 – Present Warden of Prashantinilayam(was also molested)
/m1695- SB if is put on truth serum
/m2054 Clear proof that Baba cannot cure and he is a cheat

Edited by author 02-15-2007 12:34 AM

JOE AND LISA CONFESS THAT BABA THEIR GURU IS A MOLESTER

Joe the moron wrote: usedbybaba, get some psychiatric help. You need it. First of all, I never said I believed Zimmermann. I clearly said I found his testimony "unbelievable". Of course, if you were literate in English, you would have read this in my article about him.

I do not believe in changing genitals that shoot out white light, etc. Funny that you do
joe the moron :"usedbybaba, get some psychiatric help."
USDBB: I know you go to a shrink every fortnight and think everyone known or unknown needs the same.- LISA WILL LISTEN TO YOU AND SHE NEEDS IT.

MORON: "I never said I believed Zimmermann. I clearly said I found his testimony "unbelievable". Of course, if you were literate in English, you would have read this in my article about him."

UDBB: Why are you agitated.Is it because I found out the truth. Here is more-- First of all we don't need to read your money making articles

2.It is you(joe moron) who wrote "confusedcrybaby, let us see you make a white light shoot out from your penis "

USDBB:This is a challenge to me to copy what your baba is supposed to have done.

3.Again it is you (moron)who said" Let us see you transform your hairy vagina-trick into a hairless public region trick! lol"

USDBB:This is another challenge to me to do what baba is supposed to have done.
YOUR OWN WRITING PROVES THAT YOU AGREE THAT BABA MOLESTS

HO HO HO HE HE HE JOE AND LISA ARE NERVOUS THAT THEY ARE CAUGHT HO HO HO HO


Now that he is caught and everything is there in blcak and white, joe moron denies what he said and whines and abuses.HE HE HE

Edited by author 03-12-2008 03:50 AM
/m2110, /m2108



I see usedcrybaby is still jumping around like a hot potato avoiding the issue like the childish coward and liar he is.

Face it bozo, you are finished. The only thing left for you now is the mental asylum unless you can come to terms with your evil self and overcome your idiocy. I don't see it happening anytime soon.
Try Alcoholic's Anonymous. Maybe you can find your conscience there. Ditto for O'Clery the mush brain.

This page will show what a fraud and hypocrite usedbybaba aka usedcrybaby is:

USEDBYBABA EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED ANONYMOUS WHACKO ATTACKING SAI BABA


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 02-15-2007 06:17 AM

usedbybaba wrote:
"I hate such hypocrisy.That is why I could not continue in Puttaparthi".
_______

but you "continued" for 10 years???





usedbybaba wrote:
"When he did it for the first time, i was so devoted i felt all my sins are gone"

usedbybaba wrote:
"I never said I thought I believed I was being purified. Stupid.
I said baba told me so."
________________________


your statements are in a direct contradiction.

Edited by author 02-15-2007 11:53 AM
/m2117
/m2073
______
usedbybaba i said I'm neither in regards to your question.
Your question wasn't about me being a male or a female.
I guess you have trouble understanding English.

Lishit: "Face it bozo, you are finished"

HO HO HO HO HO HO

Edited by author 02-15-2007 11:50 AM
Edited by author 02-13-2007 05:10 AM

EXPOSED EXPOSED

No need to up date . JOELISA have nothing else to say except repeating the same thing again and again

These messages will show what a fraud Joe and His friend Lisa are.
/m2115 Angel confesses that he is neither a male nor a female
/m2047 /m2086 Angel and Lisa try to mislead people by twisting my words.
/m2036-- Miracles.Are they really true.I don't believe it.
/m2002 /m2007 /m2015 - Joe and Lisa agree that Baba is a molester
/m1988-Lisa proves she is stupid again
/m1921- Lisa the Goebbels
/m1743 – Joe’s so called “usedbybaba exposed” and My reply
/m1760—joe’s love for biker babies
/m1759—joe tries to confuse on what Veer Sangvi wrote in Hindustan Times
/m1748 – coo2 is put on truth serum
/m1746- proof that Lisa cannot discuss but only abuse
/m1719—Real meaning of WATCH – watch your words etc.,
/m1713 – SB on truth serum
/m1710 – SB on truth serum again
/m1706 – SB’s Advice to Lisa, When he was intoxicated
/m1702 – SB notices Lisa trying to find out about usedbybaba
/m1696 – Present Warden of Prashantinilayam(was also molested)
/m1695- SB if is put on truth serum
/m2054 Clear proof that Baba cannot cure and he is a cheat

Edited by author 02-15-2007 12:00 PM
usedbybaba wrote:
"I hate such hypocrisy.That is why I could not continue in Puttaparthi".


usedbybaba wrote:
"When he did it for the first time, i was so devoted i felt all my sins are gone"

usedbybaba wrote:
"I never said I thought I believed I was being purified. Stupid.
I said baba told me so."


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA


HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO


HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE


YOU ARE A REAL CLOWN HA HA HA

usedbybaba 02-15-2007 12:24 AM ET (US)
  Angel"well ,aren't you a jokster."

usedbybaba:Well are you not Angelina Jolie

Angel: "Well... I look similar"
usedbybaba:OH ya ya Now I know why a girlish looking male is not unhappy that Baba is gay and a molester at that
________
Angel:I'm really tall and strong.Girls aren't.
Why would i be unhappy?
i don't recall saying i believe you.

usedbybaba: So you look like a tall girl but you are a man.Is it??
or Do you mean You are a girl who is tall and looks like Angelina joe(li)
bot other women are not as tall as you are. Any how you are either a girlish man or a boyish girl.

Angel: I am neither ( a boy or a girl)

but you "continued" for 10 years???
Angle aka hariharan correct yourself.More than 10 years.
Don't split my sentences and give your own meaning. I know you are also part of the mercenary group. A proof that you are a great paid devotee can be seen in your writings.From the day one till date, you criticised people who are anti sai , twisted their sentences and diverted topics.
You look girlish in the so called pictures(which are drawings and not photos) and you confessed that you look like Angelina joe(li)
Every time we talk of baba's cheating, you come up with vibhuthi photos but you say you are balanced. I knew within a month that you Lisa are paid by your boss Joe.You got angry every time I talked against Baba just as Lisa would do and does.Remove your camouflage and declare tha you are a devotee,mercenary or otherwise.

Edited by author 02-15-2007 12:16 PM
Sanjay thanks for enlightning us
Saibaba in trouble for commenting on Telangana

http://news.google.com/news?ie=UTF-8&oe=UT...langana&btnG=Search

Hindustan times "But opposition to Sai Baba’s views does not end with the youths. Political leaders supporting Telengana also came out strongly against him. Leader of Telangana Rasthra Samithi and former Union Minister K Chandra Sekhar Rao asked Baba to limit his business to giving religious discourses and tending to devotees. “Otherwise, he should quit religion and join politics,” Rao said.

Congress MP Madhu Yakshi Goud echoed similar sentiments too. She asked what Sai Baba was doing when people were dying of flurosis in Telangana for ages? Revolutionary poet and Maoist sympathiser Gaddar also asked Sai Baba to “shut up”.

HO HO HO HO HE HE HE SAI BABA SHUT UP

SAID GADDAR

HO HO HO HO HE HE HE SAI BABA

( a boy or a girl)
_________
this part was added by you.You make stuff up..you're a liar.

Edited by author 02-15-2007 12:36 PM
ok hariharan aka angel.I thought that is your way of doing things.Splitting words and sentences.Putting words in other's mouth.
Liar to the power of 1000.

Edited by author 02-15-2007 12:40 PM
I can split the words and sentences.
They're still yours.

how am i a liar?

If it is not ok, you should have thought about it before you posted all the stupid messages since last year.Not after you confess and not after you trouble us Anti sais.Stupid.
You are reaping your Karma

how am i a liar?
Angel don't start that bull shit again. Acting sooooo innocent

Edited by author 02-15-2007 12:45 PM
If you think my messages are stupid ,then it's stupid what you wrote,cause i posted your "sentences".
Confess to what?

/m2131
Ok don't weep when others do it back on you

how am i a liar?
Angel don't start that bull shit again. Acting sooooo innocent
___________

how am i a liar?

Edited by author 02-15-2007 12:46 PM
Ok don't weep when others do it back on you
___________

weep?

i posted your sentences,without changing them by adding up lies.
You did that.

Angel:If you think my messages are stupid ,then it's stupid what you wrote,cause posted your "sentences".

If you just posted only my sentences , you are more stupid. because there is no need to post my message , when it is already done once by me.

Edited by author 02-15-2007 12:48 PM
If you just posted only my sentences , you are more stupid. because there is no need to post my message , when it is already done once by me.
______________

there's a need to post them again,since your sentences are in contradiction.
It would be stupid not to point that out.
It's stupid that you don't remember what you previously posted.

Edited by author 02-15-2007 12:52 PM
usedbybaba wrote:
"When he did it for the first time, i was so devoted i felt all my sins are gone"

usedbybaba wrote:
"I never said I thought I believed I was being purified. Stupid.
I said baba told me so."

___________

make up your mind and stick to 1 version.

angel :i posted your sentences,without changing them by adding up lies.

No you did more than that you qouted me out of context on many occassions.
I said I have lived in parthi for more than 10 years and I also said I have not revealed many things like circumstances etc., and obviously I am only writing part of the story,but you cunningly take two different stories and misquote

Edited by author 02-16-2007 10:07 PM
A proof that you are a great paid devotee can be seen in your writings.From the day one till date, you criticised people who are anti sai , twisted their sentences and diverted topics.
You look girlish in the so called pictures(which are drawings and not photos) and you confessed that you look like Angelina joe(li)
Every time we talk of baba's cheating, you come up with vibhuthi photos but you say you are balanced. I knew within a month that you Lisa are paid by your boss Joe.You got angry every time I talked against Baba just as Lisa would do and does.Remove your camouflage and declare tha you are a devotee,mercenary or otherwise
___________

I'm not angry ...I'm happy.What do you care how i look and what does that have to do with anything.
I look appropriate

...17 eventhough I'm 27.


Anyway back to the topic.
You're posting contradictions.

I said I have lived in parthi for more than 10 years
_______
why did you stay there for so long?

Edited by author 02-16-2007 12:58 AM
I see usedcrybaby is still babbling like an idiot trying to avoid the reality that his contradictions are as obvious and as plain as the nose on his corrupt face.

Nobody has twisted your words at all you liar. Your words and contradictions have been posted EXACTLY as you wrote them. It's nobody's fault but your own that everytime you open your lying mouth that you dig your hole even deeper. The evidence that you are a retard can be seen in your writings. Remove your camouflage and reveal that you are a paid stooge for the anti-Hindu racists, anonymous coward. If anyone needs truth serum it is you.

Face it bozo, you are finished. The only thing left for you now is the mental asylum unless you can come to terms with your evil self and overcome your idiocy. I don't see it happening anytime soon.

Try Alcoholic's Anonymous. Maybe you can find your conscience there. Ditto for Tony O'Clery the mush brained alcoholic and prostitute who sold his soul to make a buck.

This page will show what a fraud and hypocrite usedbybaba aka usedcrybaby is:

USEDBYBABA EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED ANONYMOUS WHACKO ATTACKING SAI BABA

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Lisa posted my statement;

> "The biggest miracles are in the
> transformation of His devotees, I am an example,
> He took me off alcohol and introduced me to
> meditation and Vedanta, I am a huge sceptic.
> Unfortunately to a
> legal or critical eye, none of the accusations
> stand up, they are all hearsay."
>


Namaste,

Really digging around in the bottom of the barrel for arguments now aren't we? sb's net terrorists are now digging into the last century to find comments I made as a deluded devotee.

However I'm glad they posted this particular one; For it shows how devotees put sb's image and name on their own Higher Mind and then convince themselves he is doing the work. sb and other phoney gurus use this tecnique all the time for they know the devotee puts the image on their own Higher Self, and they exploit it....Tony

Edited by author 02-16-2007 04:57 PM
the comment shows what a flip-flopper you are.
You went from one extreme to the other(as Saktidas).

angelic wrote; the comment shows what a flip-flopper you are.

It is not a flip flop to wake to being stupid.

Many will wake up to all these evil gurus.
http://www.westminstertimefiles.com

Edited by author 02-16-2007 09:30 PM
/m2147

So Tony admits his brain is the bottom of the
barrel! Too funny!

Tony who claims he is an advaitin still doesn't understand that ALL higher minds are ONE. There is more proof that Sai Baba is who he says he is than there is proof Tony is the wannabe guru (hatevaitin) he claims to be, after all, where are all of Tony's followers (and even more importantly, what is their mental state)? Pathetic that Tony keeps contradicting himself but then it is no surprise knowing how dumb he is after seeing the idiotic statements he makes and lies he tells.


The big problem is that you cult-like anti-Sais
change your stories like the weather before you
even know or really understand what the facts
are. You may be able to play your infantile mind
games on the internet but we've seen just how
long they last in a court room.

In a flip-flop you claim now that it was meditation that stopped your drinking but meditation obviously hasn't stopped your addiction to lying or your pathetic childishness like your continual bragging about your book. Grow up Tony baloney. You are making a fool out of yourself.

Tony, nobody can believe in someone like you who
obviously doesn't even believe in himself and
flatly confesses that he doesn't. Do you get that
bozo? Do you understand the VERY precarious
position you wackos have put yourselves in?
You make some statements saying certain things
are true and even write articles and books about
it and then you change your stories and expect
people to take you seriously! A person who
actually does their RESEARCH wouldn't HAVE to
change their story because they would get it
RIGHT the first time.

Like I said before, thick-headed Tony, you cannot
prove your criminal accusations because you are
cowards who know you are full of crap. Either you
are EXTREMELY stupid or someone is paying you
awfully well to get you to make fools of
yourselves. Either scenario speaks volumns as to
your lack of integrity. Nobody owes you squat and
the longer you play your childish little guilt, peer pressure (I don't regard you as 'peers' as you are all too dumb) and mind games, the more ridiculous you look. As if you don't already look like a bunch of kooks anyway.


There's a VERY appropriate term for people like you...FICKLE-MINDED!

Glad to see in /m2149 you FINALLY admit to being stupid, but the problem is your stupidity is a continuing saga in the present tense. In other words you are changing your story based on someone elses opinion (who, like you cannot even keep their stories straight). And people like me are not going to follow admittedly stupid lemmings only to watch you have to change your position AGAIN in the future when you find out just how stupid you really are.

And WHY such a rush to judgement, bozo? There was PLENTY of time to find out the truth. Why are you trying to rush people into your camp when there is no legal authority to do so?

Tony what a flip flop you are.Learn from Angel and Lisa.They are not devotees of baba and they continue to be that way.They, of course get angry when you talk against Baba. They want you to go to hell and they are consistent with that.Let Baba Rape children,They will not lose their faith that "Sai Baba is who he says he is".Forget it Tony.What if Baba gets people murdered, they will not lose their faith (but they are not devotees).If you see any contradiction in their writing, they can quote how you contradict or flip flop. So if they are at fault, you cannot question them,but they will call you names .It is their birth right as a fantically devoted non devotee.
See how Angel is.You give him all the material in the world to prove Baba is a fraud and he would come up with a one liners like 'mm mm maybe ' huh baba should not molest but have you seen these miracles
"I am neutral to the core but Baba is an Avatar." "I am not saying he is God but he is an Avatar but I am not a Devotee'
Tony don't flip flop.LET US ALLOW BABA TO RAPE AND MURDER AND CHEAT because when we prayed to God, we did it using his form and it worked.

Forget the fact that God is in us and it is this God in us who is working out miracles.

GOD has to be seen in only one form and that is, Baba even if he a rapist, murderer and molester.
Tony,Do you understand that you are telling them to leave Baba when they are pleading with you and begging you saying ,"TONY PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME LOSE MY FAITH. I DON'T HAVE THE GUTS TO SEE THE TRUTH. I HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE.I HAVE GROOMED THIS FAITH FOR SO LONG AND ALL MY NEIGHBOURS, FAMILY AND FRIENDS WILL LAUGH AT ME FOR BEING DEVOTEES FOR SO LONG.PLEASE DON'T TELL ANYONE THE TRUTH ABOUT BABA PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ... YOU BOZO, DUMB BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

As far as Lisa is concerned,You have to pity her.She is Mentally not ok.
You know her by now.She is upset with life and she wants to use people as punching bags.From what we know she does not have a family.So she is deep inside jealous of people with normal life. She has only one Agenda and that is to hurt people and be happy. So ignore her.She has been adviced by joe to see a shrink and she is not doing that

Edited by author 02-16-2007 10:03 PM
lisa the stupid:Tony, Glad to see in /m2149 you FINALLY admit to being stupid,

Lisa, Tony was stupid but you are still stupid , and you should first cure yourself of this.

'contradicting himself' You should tell your molester guru BABA not to contradict himself first, dumb idiot and then stop doing it yourself.Maybe then you can talk about others, crackpot loser

time will tell.

Time has already told .but you refuse to see the truth. Baba can never be Kalki avatar or any other Avatar.Any how there is one more joker like Baba who is calling himself Kalki Bhagawan and going around. All his devotees also claim miracles.So the competition is hotting up. Amrithnandamayi another joker in the horizon,met Karunanidhi immediately after baba left, to prove that she is as powerful as baba and she is also an avatar.

ho ho ho

Edited by author 03-01-2008 05:59 AM
/m2152

Usedcrybaby, you seem to forget you admitted you were stupid for believing at the age of nineteen that giving God blow jobs would purify you (when that is NOT at all what Baba or anyone else teaches). And then you claimed that you were "college material." It's pretty hard to carry on an intelligent conversation with someone as unconscious as you! In fact it's pretty much impossible because you keep getting caught in your own self-created idiot trap. You are trying to claim Baba is living a double life when it is as plain as the nose on your face it is YOU who is living the double life and you have even admitted it saying you pretend to be a devotee when not on the internet. In other words you are admittedly a lying MOLE.

Nobody has to believe your anonymous, idiotic, nutso-sounding sob story bozo. Keep babbling though, it's amusing watching you continue to make a complete fool of yourself as you continually reveal what a low-life con man and liar you are.

Try Alcoholic's Anonymous. Maybe you can find your conscience there. Ditto for Tony O'Clery the mush brained alcoholic and prostitute who sold his soul to make a buck.

This page will show what a fraud and hypocrite usedbybaba aka usedcrybaby is:

USEDBYBABA EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED ANONYMOUS WHACKO ATTACKING SAI BABA

Edited by author 02-16-2007 11:44 PM
/m2143

And usedcrybaby can never reveal his real name because he is an anonymous and phony coward projecting his own phoniness onto others.
You have to pity usedpervert for being such a mental case, hypocrite and dummy.


ho ho ho

Edited by author 03-12-2008 04:13 AM
/m2154

Right, time has already told and we can see the anti-Hindu (usedbybaba wrote, "Amrithnandamayi another joker on the horizon.") racist and communist who is hiding out on the internet like a coward after several years dumbo. Must drive you nutso seeing an atheist like Karunanidhi endorse Sai Baba as a REAL spiritual leader.


While refraining from addressing Sai Baba as Bhagwan (Lord), the DMK supremo said spiritual leaders like Sai Baba were working for people's welfare. He said he had "always differentiated between good spiritual leaders like Sai Baba and fake godmen".


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 02-17-2007 12:40 AM
I am sorry everyone.I do the blow job to anyone who pays me. I do it to Baba and I will do it to anyone who pays me.I am actually lovingly called
either Blowsa or Lisa De Blow and I am proud of it.Actually i am also known as Lisa the Blow job.I do it for any one of any religion. Like Baba I also believe that all poles sorry people are one. They deserve to get their blow jobs done and I deserve to be paid for that. Baba is a great customer.I even have an A.M.C (Annual maintainance contract) with him.Me and my people wash it and clean it with an anti rust agent. Then we lubricate it.It is then kept in the cooler or fridge for four days. Then I and Baba Start the day with Love fill the day with Love and end the day with Love and that is the way
to Baba.
Let me tell you a truth--I said "Sai Baba were working for people's welfare".
But baba only knows one 'well fare' and ie.,he pays a fare to enter the well.Like he did to many boys.

I AM A LOSER

BOOOOOOO BOOOO

Do you want me to write about the gays in the church.I will do it in that topic and the topic here is Sathy Sai the BUM.
I hate the conversions that are going on here in India and I am a staunch Hindu.I even now support the B.J.P ,but I don't follow every thought of theirs,especially their love for Baba the Molester. So illiterate Flea(sa)
Shut up.This is about my religion and I don't want a Joker fraud to become
a part of the religion and make people believe that all our gods are like Baba the gay. If you think you know Hinduism then let us talk spirituality.
Tell me the difference between Ramauja's vishtadwita and Advita of Shankara.
Tell me what is an ithi hasa?? now don't use the net and answer me. Do it in your language. If you are so sure of Hinduism, answer one question every day.I will answer any question on Hinduism.
You did not even know that Jesus was never accused of murder (your religion) huh what do you know of my religion.
You could not differenciate between an Avatar and God and you are talking of Hinduism.

JUST SHUT UP.FOOL

Edited by author 03-12-2008 04:17 AM
/m2159

Who cares what you think about Hinduism bozo? I don't. Nor do you understand Hinduism or you wouldn't be making the idiotic statements you are making about spiritual figures and Avatars that you have been making. You seem to forget you admitted you do not even believe in Avatars ya con artist. Or were you so drunk you don't remember? You are NOT a role model and you are certainly NOT a guru so don't even try patronizing me you flakey dork.

I have ZERO respect for you. You haven't earned it and you NEVER will. All you are trying to do is distract from your idiocy. You cannot back up your accusations with any proof whatsoever. Like I said, it is impossible to carry on an intelligent conversation with someone as dumb as you. Your mind is so muddled you cannot even keep your statements consistent from post to post! Nor do you know what you are talking about half the time.

All you are good at is playing mind games and you are not really even good at that. You are so easy to see through it is pathetic.

And you obviously don't have a clue about the Gospel of Thomas or you wouldn't make such stupid statements about Jesus.

Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 03-05-2008 12:11 AM
/m2158 Documenting usedbybaba posting fraudulently as me.

So the demented fool just can't stop playing his sociopathic, alcoholic and infantile mind games. And the weirdo wonders why nobody with a brain takes him seriously.

Why are the anti-Sais like usedcrybaby all so dumb? Yes usedpervert, YOU are a loser. You are also the weakest link. Good bye.


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 02-17-2007 05:10 AM
/m2151

Usedcrybaby, if you consider Tony's and your life normal, I don't want it (and heaven help you in your delusion)! I don't think that either of you are "normal." A person who thinks that giving God blow jobs will purify him and is as obsessed with sex as you obviously are isn't "normal" in my book. A person like you who continually plays sociopathic, dangerous mind games and avoids answering questions about his sordid accusations isn't "normal" in my book. A person who lies continually as you and Tony do isn't "normal" in my book. Alcoholism is not "normal" to me but apparently it is to you. Why would I be jealous of dummies like you who talk and act like perverts and alcoholics and lie through your teeth like there was no tomorrow?

Don't flatter yourself dumbo. Get real.

/m2162
You told you gave blow jobs to baba for money and not me. I know what I said

ho ho ho

LISHIT :Usedcrybaby, if you consider Tony's and your life normal, I don't want it.
We know you will never get a normal life till you stop pouring venom on others.Even your guru knows that your venom is self destructive.

Edited by author 02-17-2007 09:20 PM
/m2164

Look in the mirror dumbo! You are getting back EXACTLY what you are putting out. Too bad you are too dumb to see your own idiocy!

Maybe some day when you can stop playing your childish head games and talking down to people like you think you are some great intellectual when you are nothing of the sort, you will see what a coward you are.

Edited by author 02-29-2008 12:47 AM
/m2163

You must be drunk again, I said NOTHING of the sort. You said you gave Baba blow jobs because you said you thought it would "purify" you. And that is EXACTLY what you said. Need I get your quotes again dumbo and prove it?

Chew on your own words bozo:


Angel, I already told you that when he did it for the first time to me he was an expert in handling people and i was just a young boy in college totally trusting him and worshipping him like what u are doing now or even more.I am not talking about ur devotin and comparing it to mine, i was physically in his place, hearing his dicourses people always talking of miracles. What would be my faith? When he did it for the first time, i was so devoted i felt all my sins are gone once he touched my privete part. it took years to undrestand that he was actually exploiting me. For some students, they were smart enough to understand
this and immediately either ran away from parthi or hid from him during darshan or had to bear with it so that they would not lose their education.some of them used baba and got their work done, like getting into MBA or jobs and partly they enjoyed having sex with him. I was confused for a long time and he troubled me like hell indirectly.I did not lose faith in him and that made him cool down a little. I could not have sex with my divine lord. that was something i could not do... i was not a hypocrite. most of the students do not know about baba, because if we talk they will be perturbed and immediately tell the warden or write to baba.and we wil be out. so it was generally only those who were exploited who talked with each other.and that too only close friends. Even now there are students who believe that BaBa is doing the sex thing for some divine reason.

Imagine that, an "innocent" young boy in college who thinks giving blow jobs to God will purify him!!!

I do not remember the date etc., come on how can you ask some one who was treated shabbily and moreover i do not know the date on which i understood that he was not my God. Imagine you worship someone for years and he starts talking
to you. You are in absolute awe of him."GOD" HAS TALKED TO YOU OUT OF SO MANY PEOPLE.NOW HE TELLS YOU THAT IT IS ALRIGHT TO HAVE SEX WITH HIM.SEX IS SUCH AN INSTINCT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH AND WITH WHOM IT IS CORRECT.YOUR VALUES CAN CHANGE ACCORDING TO YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES. when"GOD" TELLS YOU HE IS CORRECT(BUT U THINK OF HIM DIFFERENTLY AND SO YOU ARE CONFUSED) THAT IS THE REASON SOME DON'T MIND IT SOME RUN AWAY IMMEDIATELY AND SOME OTHERS GET CONFUSED AND THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ENJOY THE ACT AND ALSO USE THE PLACE FOR THEIR CONTACTS, UNIVERSITY DEGREES,JOBS AND EVEN MARRIAGE.

LISA:You seem to forget you admitted you do not even believe in Avatars ya con artist.
Yes I do not believe in Avatars,ie., God coming to earth and teaching,but I believe that they are great saints and Gurus who are later made into Avatars by people and there are fake gurus like Baba who are treated as GOD.So don't confuse what I said .
As far as your knowledge of Hinduism or Christianity, It is less than Zero.All that you know is CALLING PEOPLE NAMES and nothing else and that is your religion. I am very very very happy that I do not have the respect of
Donkeys like you.Let Baba receive all the respect from you donkey.
Tony never calls you names and you still call him names.You are a bastard and tell your Joe and Angel to copy this.I repeat,You are basically a Bastard. Who the fuck is bothered about your bullshit respect,Bastard.You are a whore and everyone knows it.GO SEARCH FOR MORE CUSTOMERS.I HAVE THE NO RESPECT BUT HATRED FOR YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS.SO FUCK OFF.
You and joe can keep copying these mails and I will keep calling you a BASTARD

HEY SHIT POT LISA ,FUCK OFF. JUST FUCK OFF.GO CALL YOUR GAY PARTNERS.

Edited by author 04-09-2007 11:54 PM
/m2167

Then you are NOT a Hindu bozo. In order to be a "true Hindu" you MUST believe in Avatars. Find a new religion.


Tony has called me all kinds of names you lying slob.

You don't have respect for ANYTHING. And most importantly you don't have respect for the truth. You, like Tony O'Clery are a molestor and RAPIST of truth.

BYE EVERYBODY ELSE.LISHIT GO HOME AND SOAK YOURSELF IN SORROW.

FUCK OFF I TOLD YOU .

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IS RELIGION OR SPIRITUALITY OR GOD.ALL YOU KNOW IS SERVICE TO 'HUMANITY' AND MONEY.GET OUT

Edited by author 02-17-2007 10:01 PM
/m2168

What was that you said about venom, hypocrite?
Tough looking in the mirror isn't it?

Now what are you going to do about it? Are you EVER going to GROW UP? Or are you going to act like a nutcase all the rest of your life until you end up in the grave?

YES I HAVE VENOM TOO.REMOVE A THORN USING ONE SO.FUCK OFF.IS IT HARD TO HEAR
SHALL I CALL YOU LOUDER.YOU DESREVE WORSE THAN THIS.

Edited by author 02-17-2007 10:58 PM
/m2172

Find a new religion dumbo. You are a PHONY!

You claimed you had sex with Baba because you thought he was God and it would "purify you" and now you are admitting you don't even believe in Avatars so you are nothing but a big LIAR and PHONY unmasked.

I DON'T NEED A RELIGION LIKE YOURS AND YOU ARE A WHORE.SO YOU HAVE NO GOD AND NOBODY NEEDS YOUR ADVICE.

SHUT UP AND GET OUT.

I KNOW IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO FIND YOUR CUSTOMERS WHORE

/m2176

The whore here is YOU hypocrite! Just look at your filthy mind and filthy language!

Get a grip dumbo!

What's with all this dumbo dumbo stuff? Don't you guys have something interesting to say? Every single post has dumbo in it.

Edited by author 11-16-2007 07:52 PM
/m2178

Interesting that you only see the dumbo stuff as bad James but you do not notice the other filth. Are you an anti-Sai?

Here, James, educate yourself on the kind of garbage this dude is dishing out and then see if you think he is a rocket scientist you can have an intellectual conversation with. Try and let's see how far you get.
BTW, I think you are Sanjay Dadlani.

This page will show what a fraud and hypocrite usedbybaba aka usedcrybaby is:

USEDBYBABA EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED ANONYMOUS WHACKO ATTACKING SAI BABA

Edited by author 02-18-2007 05:10 AM
Whoever wrote this , seems to be sincere and I can see a flow in the writing.To me it does not look planned or contradictory.But usedbybaba need not get so angry.
Angel, I already told you that when he did it for the first time to me he was an expert in handling people and i was just a young boy in college totally trusting him and worshipping him like what u are doing now or even more.I am not talking about ur devotin and comparing it to mine, i was physically in his place, hearing his dicourses people always talking of miracles. What would be my faith? When he did it for the first time, i was so devoted i felt all my sins are gone once he touched my privete part. it took years to undrestand that he was actually exploiting me. For some students, they were smart enough to understand
this and immediately either ran away from parthi or hid from him during darshan or had to bear with it so that they would not lose their education.some of them used baba and got their work done, like getting into MBA or jobs and partly they enjoyed having sex with him. I was confused for a long time and he troubled me like hell indirectly.I did not lose faith in him and that made him cool down a little. I could not have sex with my divine lord. that was something i could not do... i was not a hypocrite. most of the students do not know about baba, because if we talk they will be perturbed and immediately tell the warden or write to baba.and we wil be out. so it was generally only those who were exploited who talked with each other.and that too only close friends. Even now there are students who believe that BaBa is doing the sex thing for some divine reason.

Imagine that, an "innocent" young boy in college who thinks giving blow jobs to God will purify him!!!

I do not remember the date etc., come on how can you ask some one who was treated shabbily and moreover i do not know the date on which i understood that he was not my God. Imagine you worship someone for years and he starts talking
to you. You are in absolute awe of him."GOD" HAS TALKED TO YOU OUT OF SO MANY PEOPLE.NOW HE TELLS YOU THAT IT IS ALRIGHT TO HAVE SEX WITH HIM.SEX IS SUCH AN INSTINCT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH AND WITH WHOM IT IS CORRECT.YOUR VALUES CAN CHANGE ACCORDING TO YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES. when"GOD" TELLS YOU HE IS CORRECT(BUT U THINK OF HIM DIFFERENTLY AND SO YOU ARE CONFUSED) THAT IS THE REASON SOME DON'T MIND IT SOME RUN AWAY IMMEDIATELY AND SOME OTHERS GET CONFUSED AND THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ENJOY THE ACT AND ALSO USE THE PLACE FOR THEIR CONTACTS, UNIVERSITY DEGREES,JOBS AND EVEN MARRIAGE.

Nobody till now has proved that the Sathya Sai and Shirdi Sai are one and same or that they are different.

Edited by author 02-18-2007 05:40 AM
/m2181


Meera, I think you are usedbybaba playing his usual mind games but I am going to humor you. One wonders why you are so hung up on whether Sathya and Shirdi are the same. What do you care unless it affects you personally?

It is not a matter of "proving" anything. As with God it is a matter of experiencing. You have not experienced that the two are the same but others say they have. You cannot prove they haven't. You can also not prove God does or doesn't exist to others.


Sai Sruti Harrow Temple Miracle Photos

Have you experienced this.Can you tell me who has.I have experienced the power of God but I can't say,I have experiened anything more.I pray to Shirdi Baba daily and I am very comfortable.I've not seen Sathya Sai.Not even in dreams. I wonder why he is not guiding me to Sathya sai.

If you feel that I am usedbysathysai, you need not answer me. I am not angry,but I don't want to make you uncomfortable.

I saw the photo of Baba's birth day.It is not colour vibhithi.It is colour powder.In Maharashtra it is called Rangoli.How can this happen in so many places.I am confused.

Edited by author 07-22-2007 10:45 PM
/m2183

Yes, actually, I have. Shirdi Sai Baba has appeared to me in his actual physical body several times (to give me darshan or protection) whereas Sathya Sai has only appeared to me in his spiritual body. On the other hand, I have many dreams of Sathya Sai Baba helping me and only recently have I had a few dreams of Shirdi.

If you are curious why don't you ask Shirdi? Surely if you believe in him he will answer.

The site I posted is a group of people in Harrow England who have experienced that Sathya And Shirdi are the same. I suppose you could write and ask them why they believe.

In the miracle photos, there is one photo where you can see Sai Baba materialized in the photo and he is waving!

See also the photo gallery at: SaiSruti.org.uk

You really have a serious problem, take Joe's advice and get some help, before its too late.

Shirdi can only appear in people's visions, for their own higher self, for he was a Mukta and has merged.

Edited by author 02-18-2007 04:48 PM
you're an expert?
SB appeared to Hawleys ,they both saw him.
You can hear them talking about it here..
http://www.putfile.com/unity99/media

Angelic wrote---you're an expert.SB appeared to Hawleys ,they both saw him.
You can hear them talking about it here..

Namaste,

Shirdi Baba is either a mukti or he is not. If he is a mukti there is no personality or ego to take form any form.

Edited by author 07-23-2007 06:31 AM
/m2187

Tony, why don't you just admit to everyone that you are an atheist and a fascist and make it easy on yourself? Everytime you open your big phony mouth you reveal how shallow and crooked you are.

For your info, Joe has also stated that he has seen Shirdi. Many other people have stated that they have seen Shirdi in his physical body, fool.

Remember too that YOU are the one who keeps claiming he possesses supernatural abilities but constantly talks like an obsessive sexual pervert.

You are sickening Tony. Get it through your thick head, you are NOT a guru and you are not a role model. You are a pathological liar and a PERVERT. Now get a life and mind your own business before you end up in jail.


Tony O'Clery Vandalises Wikipedia with His Libelous and Perverted Comments

Tony O'Clery, who has an account at Wikipedia under the name aoclery, added the following libelous comments to the article about Sathya Sai Baba. He attempted to hide his identity by not signing in to his account.

"He also admits to pedophilia but says that as he is
God they are paying off their karma quickly."


After confronting Tony with his libelous vandalism, he does it again!


"...he also says his pedophilia is good for they pay the karma off quicker as he is god..."

Tony also vandalises the Benjamin Creme article:

"He also says it is true that sai baba is a pedophile but that he is paying off people's karma quicker, by assaulting them as he is God."

Someone reverts Tony's vandalism and Tony comes back and does it again:

"He also says it is true that sai baba is a pedophile but that he is paying off people's karma quicker, by assaulting them as he is God, according to top officials in the sai org. "


Tony even confesses:

2856 Tony O'Clery 03-24-2007 07:40 PM ET (US)
I have put that comment on every article referring to sb in wikipedia,,go find them fill your boots.

sb org says he molests as god curing karma.
 
Cornered like a rat, Tony tries a new lie:

"A former official of the sai organisation, Tony O'Clery, has stated that they were told to state that the sexual touching and pedophilia were to help with the subjects karma, as Sai Baba was 'God'."





TONY O'CLERY EXPOSED

"You are right you will have to forgive my unsophistication. You see before I had any tertiary edu, I was a construction worker, cane-cutter, australian gigolo, union man, and surfer. Heaven for me was 'surfs up', and 'out the back', on Aussie beaches."--Tony O'Clery

Edited by author 03-12-2008 04:24 AM
/m2187, /m2189

Tony you don't know what you are talking about. Quit trying to play guru to people on this board. Go start your own weirdo cult.


JIVA The individual soul and incarnated Atma(n).
JIVAMUKTA (Lit., liberated while living) One who is liberated in this life while still in the body.
JIVAN Literally: living being. The individual soul which in essence is one with the Universal Soul.

Mukthi is impossible for those addicted to lust.--Shirdi Sai Baba

"You are right you will have to forgive my unsophistication. You see before I had any tertiary edu, I was a construction worker, cane-cutter, australian gigolo, union man, and surfer. Heaven for me was 'surfs up', and 'out the back', on Aussie beaches."--Tony O'Clery


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Shirdi Baba is either a mukti or he is not. If he is a mukti there is no personality or ego to take form any form.
__________

i don't think it matters what they are.It matters how they're perceived.

Edited by author 02-19-2007 12:17 AM
/m2192, /m2187

The thing is, Angel, that many people like me who initially see Shirdi, do not even know who he is at the time we see him so we have NO preconceptions about who he is. Later, it is only when we hear about him or see him in a photo that we realize who he is.

The stuff that Tony is babbling about totally contradicts the Bhagavad-Gita and other authoritative Hindu scriptures. All scriptures teach that the soul is immortal. Hindu scriptures teach that Avatars DO incarnate and take form as humans in order to help mankind.

"Even though myself unborn, of changeless essence, and the lord of all existence, yet in presiding over nature -- which is mine -- I am born but through my own maya (5), the mystic power of self-ideation, the eternal thought in the eternal mind. (6) I produce myself among creatures, O son of Bharata, whenever there is a decline of virtue and an insurrection of vice and injustice in the world; and thus I incarnate from age to age for the preservation of the just, the destruction of the wicked, and the establishment of righteousness. Whoever, O Arjuna, knoweth my divine birth and actions to be even so doth not upon quitting his mortal frame enter into another, for he entereth into me. Many who were free from craving, fear, and anger, filled with my spirit, and who depended upon me, having been purified by the ascetic fire of knowledge, have entered into my being. In whatever way men approach me, in that way do I assist them; but whatever the path taken by mankind, that path is mine..."--Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita, Chapter 4


Apparently Tony's neo-fascist cult does not believe this and he is busy denigrating others, invalidating their very sacred spiritual experiences and trying to force his beliefs down everyone elses throat, whether they like it or not. Such is the nature of fascism.

I think i remember from some documentary that L.H. said she saw Sb in a dream before she met him,she recognized his face on some picture in some friends house and said it was a man from her dreams.

Edited by author 02-18-2007 07:47 PM
/m2194

Exactly. Many people have stated that they also saw Sai Baba in dreams before they even knew who he was.

Of course, now Tony will claim that Baba is a demon (roll eyes).

You have a pretty bad level of vocab. Think of something interesting to say other than calling people dumbos.

Edited by author 05-18-2007 02:21 AM
/m2189, /m2187

Tony, you are the dummy who does NOT know what he is talking about.

JIVA The individual soul and incarnated Atma(n).
JIVAMUKTA (Lit., liberated while living) One who is liberated in this life while still in the body.
JIVAN Literally: living being. The individual soul which in essence is one with the Universal Soul.

Mukthi is impossible for those addicted to lust.--Shirdi Sai Baba

Who is this Shirdi person you guys keep talking of? Is he dead? Do you see dead people? Is that what you're saying?

You have a pretty bad level of vocab. Think of something interesting to say other than calling people dumbos.
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ubb...

ubb you're using different user names.



WHY?

James,They read a few books and they hear what they want from thier so called gurus and also good gurus.They interpret all this according to what their intellectual,spiritual growth.
One Indian Philosophy called Nyaya -meaning logic.That is to use Nyaya or Logic to understand God.It is for those who cannot use other methods,like meditation devotion etc., None of us in this forum are great devotees of any God.We are Devoted to God but we have not matured (maybe we can also use the word ripe)either in our Devotion or meditation to understand the philosophical difference between God and us.Or shall we say Atman and Paramaatman . So using logic is the best way for the present especially when we all have different different ideas.
What does Advaita say.I hope all of us agree in it. It says.God and we are one and the same. So if God and we are one, where is anyone else be existing??.How can some one else ,whether it is this or that Baba come and do something like appearing in our dream. It is Our Atman,also called the subconscious mind by scientists, which creates our (babas or any other form) in our dream.
Now if we believe our own dead parent/parent or grand parent or someone we like and also believed by us as a person who has powers after death,our prayers to them also helps.They will also appear in our dreams and also perform miracles.What is the secret??

OUR BELIEF

Lahri Mahashya the great guru inAutobiography of a yogi is quoted as telling a woman "If you believe this Photo of mine as me (or Divine) it is me.If you treat it as a photo, it is a photo." So I( repeat , it is we who make a difference because we are inherently divine and all the philosophical terms like jivan muktha, Paramataman jeevatman etc., are just the jargon used by philosophers.

Edited by author 05-18-2007 02:15 AM
/m2186

Are you illiterate James (Sanjay Dadlani)? There is absolutely nothing wrong with my vocabulary. You anti-Sais continually talk down to people calling them "dumb". So why are you such hypocrites?

Pretty difficult to have a conversation with people who have hidden agendas and do not know what they are talking about half the time, like Tony O'Clery and his baloney about muktas. Tony is so dumb he does not even know a mukta can have a body (jivamukta) and yet the fraud is trying to pretend he is some expert on advaita and puts others down.

BTW O'Clery, Shirdi Sai Baba said, "Mukthi is impossible for those addicted to lust."

Angel,why do you leave you and Lisa.Tell everyone that I am Lisa and I am Angel and I am Meera and jeo and Tony.If you have some semblance of a descent talk,you will jump into the fray and destroy it. Remember I am from India and I don't use words like Vocab.I write full - Vocabulary.Any how you have an agenda .Go ahead

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:01 PM
/m2200

Because he is a coward who cannot grow up and act like an adult. All he can do is play head games and talk down to people as a cover for his idiocy.

james you got it.In my name they will start calling you dumbo etc.

ho ho ho

James you are a coward dumbo blah blah(just kidding,don't take it seriously)

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:09 PM
Remember I am from India and I don't use words like Vocab.I write full - Vocabulary.
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so James is not you then.
Oh,ok.

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:11 PM
ubb when you pretend to be somebody else it's very obvious,so,why even bother?

Edited by author 03-12-2008 04:30 AM
/m2201

You have NO idea what other people do and WHY they believe what they do about gurus you con artist and pretender. Lots of people believe in Jesus "just because" (like you) they read about him too bozo. So once again you show what a hypocrite you are. Nothing new in that.

And besides, I don't care what your beliefs are whatever your name is. I've seen enough of your perversions to last me a lifetime. If you want to play guru, start your own cult and leave us alone.

The anti-Sais are all wannabe gurus who have big egos (Messiah complexes) and think they are going to teach everyone a lesson.
Everyone of them has fallen flat on their face when it comes to "character" and revealed themselves to be nothing but low-life perverts and ignoramuses.

Yet still they are living in denial and babbling on as if they have not been found out. Apparently a jail cell is about the only thing that will wake egomaniacs like them up.

Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Any how coming to the serious talk,I believe that we are divine and to realize that we need gurus who do not have a personal agenda,like Ramana Maharishi. There are many others who use our spiritual need to their advantage,material advantage.
I said Ia do not believe in Avatars,but I should say I am agnostic. I do not know whether avatars existed or do exist.All the so called gurus and Avatars are nothing but traders who make money selling spirituality.This is my belief and I am not expecting anyone to have the same view.

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:18 PM
/m2210

You have a personal agenda ya hypocrite, otherwise you wouldn't be here pushing your demented filth.

Lisa.Dont make me use bad language early in the morning.Just shut up wait for james or whoever I am talking to to come and answer. Angel are you happy.Go and take your money from Joe

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:21 PM
/m2212

Everyone knows all it takes is the truth to push you over the edge bozo.

Angel tries to listen to you and all you do is abuse and play mind games. I already knew there was no sense in wasting my time on a pervert like you who does nothing but lie and play mind games for attention. Doesn't your mommy pay enough attention to you little boy?

Fuck off you whore .Tell yoru sucke r Angel to have fun with you not me .bastard.You deserve Baba and his cock.Go and have fun with angel

Go copy this cock sucking dumbo.Where is your baba.His cock does not raise easily is it not.Because he is impotent.An impotent Guru is serviced by Ahit Lisa.

Angel you are a rouge and money making shit pot. so shut up

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:25 PM
/m2214

What'd I say folks? The coward is a real big man when he is beating up on people.

Hey, James, here is your new best friend. You can have him. You seem to like the "f" word a lot. Little boys must have their toys.

ho now james has become different now is it? You desereve the fuck word everyday and every minute and every second for that is what you are whore.
What do you expect,you will call people dumbo and we have to keep quite.

SHUT UP

wHERE IS THAT JOKER ANGEL. Money making bastard.I told everyoen that this guy is a crook and he proves it again and again.As I mentioned earlier, Angel is the number one crook.I never trust men /boys who are girlish

/m2212
money??

I'm not attacking anyone..you are.

You seem to like the "f" word a lot.
So you don't like to "f" is it.Then why are you with Angel, baba and others.
Go ahead and tell everyone the truth.What is wrong with a little extra money

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:33 PM
You are, sucker.Angel, you are attacking me.

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:34 PM
wHERE IS THAT JOKER ANGEL. Money making bastard.I told everyoen that this guy is a crook and he proves it again and again.As I mentioned earlier, Angel is the number one crook.I never trust men /boys who are girlish
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As Stephanie Tanner would say...HOW RUDE!
please be nice or leave!

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:47 PM
/m2210

Like I said before, you have just revealed you are a liar. You said you had sex with Sai Baba because you believed he was God and now you are saying you don't believe in Avatars or God!

Yesterday you claimed you were a Hindu and before you claimed you were a Christian so one can easily see you have been deceiving others all along.

You obviously made up this story because you thought it would get you some money and/or fame so you are no better then the gurus you project your own selfish greed onto.

And Baba doesn't charge ANY money so once again you are a blatant LIAR!

You are, sucker.Angel, you are attacking me.

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no i'm not...you're insulting me.

It is because of you that Lishit is calling me names and you like it.I like calling you both names too.So fuck off

i've work to do.I will come later

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:35 PM
I like calling you both names too.So fuck off
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Oh,well... that's not nice,not nice at all.

i've work to do.I will come later
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take your time.

/m2225

Quit whining you hypocritical wacko and crybaby.

Hard to believe that big baby is in his fifties!

/m2227

All this shows is that usedcrybaby is a sadistic wacko who just admitted he delights in hurting people.

Remember Angel, he constantly calls others, including Baba names and then whines like a big crybaby when he gets a taste of his own medicine.

Edited by author 02-19-2007 12:18 AM
No I'm not usedbybaba and I'm not illiterate, I have a college qualification in English, thank you very much. Which is more than what I can say for you fellows. I repeat, try finding something interesting to say instead of calling everyone dumbo.

So I didn't get an answer to my question? Who is Shirdi, and is he still alive? How can you see dead people?

Edited by author 03-12-2008 04:37 AM
/m2231

Blowhard James (the great intellectual, Sanjay Dadlani playing psychotic mindgames like the rest of the anti-sai wackos on this board).

You obviously came here to start an argument. When are YOU going to say something intelligent?

If you are so intelligent, look it up. I'm not your secretary.

I've said lots of interesting things on this board but apparently the only word you can comprehend is "dumbo" so don't blame me for it.

No I'm not usedbybaba
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i think you are.

sb stumbling around in his own bs up to his neck


http://home.hetnet.nl/~ex_baba/engels/shortnews/babablunders.html

Edited by author 03-05-2008 06:57 AM
/m2234
What O'Clery the closet racist refuses to tell you is that most of the states in India were created by the British as a result of secularism and that is what Baba is against. You can't get the truth out of the neo-fascist anti-Sais as truth is anaethema to them.


The anti-Sais seem to forget they are
cavorting with anti-Semites (white supremacists) ,
atheists, sexual perverts like O'Clery, usedbybaba,
Sanjay Dadlani and anyone else they can jump into the
dumpster with!

Too funny.

And then there is the wannabe brainiac O'Clery trying to preach
advaita and falling flat on his face. Moral: White
supremacists and Hinduism don't mix (remember what Hitler did to the sacred Hindu Swastika).

No I don't find your comments interesting, very puerile actually. You're the only one arguing and abusing everybody. I just did some googling on Shirdi and turns out he is dead. So you see dead people? You're nuts.

James if you don't even know who Shirdi is,what are you doing in this thread commenting?

I googled it already, I told you. I discovered this forum while searching for something else you inquisitive fuckhead. Stop asking stupid questions and tell me all about how you fags can see dead people.

Edited by author 03-12-2008 04:45 AM
/m2238

And asking if fags can see dead people is a "smart" question, James? How do you know if people on this board are fags? Did you date them?

Like I said and I was apparently right, you have a love affair with the "f" word. And what was that you were saying about being abusive? All Angelic did was ask you a question and you blew a valve (just like usedbybaba). Besides that James, why are you butting in on conversations which are really none of your business anyway? Funny that you good ol boys always side with the men perverts. After hearing your foul mouth it doesn't surprise me at all.

James sounds a lot like Sanjay Dadlani. Dadlani has been known to play these kinds of immature mind games and fags is a word he uses a lot.

BTW, James the brainiac, there is a true show on tv in the US about a woman who sees dead people and works with the police for a living helping dead people get justice for their murders.

From the sound of your tone, I think maybe it is you who is nuts.

Time for an update:

• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed




• Anthony "Tony" O'Clery Exposed




• Barry Pittard Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

Edited by author 02-20-2007 02:54 AM
/m2236


Then why don't you go away James? I'm not being paid to entertain you. Nor do I care what you think about me.

Why are you being so dishonest James? First of all YOU are the one who started the argument by making snide comments when it is really none of your business and you are being biased and dishonest. One does have to wonder what your agenda is James.

Secondly, you obviously either have not read these pages or if you have you are being doubly dishonest as I NEVER argue unless attacked first.
When people make dishonest allegations they cannot back up, that is where I draw the line. The argument started when those corrupt individuals making allegations LIED and were caught in their lies. When they were confronted with their lies they began to abuse and lie some more. And on and on it goes, James.

English translation:
Interviewer: Idi Amin took power by a coup in 1971. He is estimated to have killed up to about a half a million of his countryman before he was removed by a coup in 1979. He took with him the national fortune and left behind an almost ruined Uganda, himself dying in exile in 2003.

N.R.Amundsen(Daughter of idi Amin): Yeeees.. in part. It was his personality - also the way he changes his mind and invents things - gets impulses - that is quite like him. But unfortunately we did not see how really charismatic he was - that is, in the film - because we see only where he was most brutal - one does not understand why people liked him... what it was that made people in Uganda like him.

Interviewer: What kind of charisma was that?


He could talk, was amusing and polite and quite unbelievable Like Sathya Sai Baba - and he always referred to God. He said "I dreamed and God came to me( like Sai baba appearing in many devotees' dreams) in a dream and said that I had to extradite asians" for example, if he wanted to say anything. He was very dramatic.

Comment from Exbaba: Though Sai Baba is 81 (or - if official birth registers are relied on - is now really 84 years old), surely he should not be losing his mind in senility when so many others live into their 90s and beyond and yet retain their clarity and intelligence intact? There are old ladies and men who can still do gymnastics and even parachute jumps at well over the age of 80. But Sathya Sai Baba as the omnipotent avatar, God Incarnate, is reportedly losing it more and more, physically and mentally! Now that is a genuine mystery, isn't it?

 Professor Narendra Nayak has informed us:

    “We have been leading a campaign against Sathya Sai Baba and his so called miracles. As of now, a very powerful movement is coming up against him in Tamilnadu. He came to Chennai and performed a yaga and M. Karunanidhi (the Chief Minister), a avowed rationalist, met him and discussed. We don’t know what. He then started praising him. We have started a campaign against that. The Periyar Drvaid Kazagam has made condensed version of the (BBC’s) ‘Secret Swami’ in Tamil and copies are going like anything”.

An eyewitness circa 1979 account of Sai Baba, in full public view, ordering Joseph, an American long time resident devotee, thrown out of the Whitefield ashram when he spoke to fellow devotees of how a number of Sai Baba’s college students told him of Sai Baba getting college boys to masturbate.

Edited by author 02-29-2008 12:33 AM
So Robert Priddy aka truthseeker (what a misnomer for such a dishonest, evil, cowardly wannabe man), the drunkard shows up.

Hey Priddy, when are you going to grow up? You are 70 years old and still have not learned to tell the truth.

Idi Amin was NOT in power when Baba went to Uganda and he didn't go to see Amin anyway you liar. Baba went to tell his devotees to leave the country. Why are you such a dishonest slob Priddy?


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba


Funny that none of these students can EVER speak for themselves you dishonest con man and racist. Why are you trying to give people the impression that Indians are cowards?

Perhaps you should try seeking your conscience FIRST before you try seeking the truth. You must have lost it in one of those booze bottles. You like so many in your group of alcoholics need to join the Alcoholic's Anonymous Twelve Step program so you can learn to take responsibility for your asinine behavior and right the serious wrongs you have committed before you die.

ROBERT PRIDDY EXPOSED

‘Sai Baba’s Tip To Keep Ageing Away. But He Couldn’t’, the Australian scholar Brian Steel’s remark of February 2002 seems almost prescient:

     ‘Since the ‘discrepancies’ appear to be increasing nowadays, is there any possibility that Sai Baba is suffering from a degenerative ageing disease which might have an effect on his thinking and speaking?’ http://bdsteel.tripod.com/More/Nonsense.htm

Likewise, in October 2002, a Swedish psychologist and former devotee, Åsa Samsioe, noting physical signs of Sai Baba’s ageing like his development of a ’turkey throat’ and also the “low intellectual level” of his discourses, remarked:

    ‘He must have one heck of a job, Sathya Sai Baba… it can’t be easy to age in his situation, besides being under so much criticism as he has recently been… not surprising that it leaves its marks. Occasionally I think ‘poor man’… feel some pity for him. A whole life built on lies… captured by the myth about himself… to be the object of the projections of millions… and to be forced , at least outwardly, to live up to all the expectations put to him… to always have to have all those people around him’. http://home.no.net/anir/Sai/enigma/Swede4.htm

It is just under a decade since Sai Baba informed devotees all round the world that his aircraft is about to take off to bring his mission to the whole world. But the runway, like his own imagination, would seem to have run away on him. He turned 81 last November (though evidence indicates that he has falsified his actual birthdate by three years). Here, in his own words, in almost in full flight, is yet another of his myriad failed predictions:

    ‘Swami’s mission has made this turn to face the runway. The 70th birthday was the signal from the tower to accelerate. In the 75th birthday, the airplane will leave the ground’.

Three British men have died mysteriously after becoming followers of an Indian mystic famed as a ''god man'' and miracle worker.

Sai Baba's activities are being studied by the Foreign Office which is considering issuing an unprecedented warning against the guru to travellers.

The Times has learnt that three Britons have apparently taken their lives after placing hope in India's most popular holy man.

One of them had complained of being repeatedly sexually molested by Sai Baba at his ashram in Puttaparthi near Bangalore.

Michael Pender, an HIV-positive student, was found dead at a London hostel after taking alcohol and painkillers. He had already tried to commit suicide at the holy man's headquarters.

Aran Edwards hanged himself at home in Cardiff after joining a Sai Baba support group and being encouraged to write to the guru to solve his psychological problems.

Mr Edwards sent a flurry of anxious letters but was devastated after receiving no replies and being told that the guru did not read his mail.

Andrew Richardson, a South Africa-born British national, jumped off a building in India shortly after visiting Sai Baba's ashram.

Among visitors who have paid respects to Sai Baba are the Duchess of York, the Prince of Wales's architect Keith Critchlow, the cricketer Sachin Tendulkar and the Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee.

Sai Baba's message is being preached in more than 500 British schools through charities which claim to provide non-denominational education in ''human values''.

Tom Sackville, a former Home Office Minister, last night urged the Government to take decisive action to warn teachers and pilgrims of the dangers of becoming involved with Sai Baba. The guru's reputation is plummeting after the United Nations cancelled a conference at his headquarters, issuing a condemnation of his alleged sex abuse of youths and boys.

Unicef pulled out of a conference it was due to sponsor with the guru's educational organisation in Puttaparthi last September.

The UN's cultural agency issued a trenchant statement: ''The organisation is deeply concerned about widely reported allegations of sexual abuse involving youths and children that have been levelled at the leader of the movement in question, Sathya Sai Baba.
(...)

I googled it already, I told you. I discovered this forum while searching for something else you inquisitive fuckhead. Stop asking stupid questions and tell me all about how you fags can see dead people.
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excuse me?
you need to get some manners...you're as rude as usedbybaba.

Edited by author 02-20-2007 11:00 AM
Sathya seeker why are you spamming this board with exbaba articles?
This is a discussion board.

Edited by author 02-20-2007 05:04 AM
/m2250, /m2246

Truthseeker = Robert Priddy aka con man. Everytime Priddy opens his big mouth without a script, he sticks his foot in it.

ROBERT PRIDDY EXPOSED

The secret of the morphing genitals is simply this. sb is a hermaphrodite with both genitalia. He apparently can withdraw his scrotum like the karte experts can. This would leave his vagina and penis. His penis is quite diminutive and no doubt is higher on his abdomen due to his having male and female sexual organs. So guiding a hand to belowe the penis would give the impression of morphing.
Remember sb talked in his discourse about ateeta sakti or group hypnotism, often seen on stage shows. He actually did this one time convincing people they saw a monkey appear, shrink and disappear. I actually talked to one the people present. So having one's mind influenced by him in a confined space is no big deal, neither is hypnotism.

Edited by author 02-21-2007 02:00 PM
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satya "Will some one expose this so called Bada badmash "BABA" babu please. With he in twilight of his life, what will happen to Millions of Crores of his money? YSR is really a cunning fox. Out for his money, now that he and his kith and kin has looted Telangana lands and earned in millions."
( Posted: Tuesday , January 30, 2007 at 20:35 )

Here is a man who he says is avataar of god, sitting with politicians and giving free gold to ministers and talking specifically about "Bifurcation of AP" not unity. what has bifurcation has to do with unity?

Sid "Please dont call this guy Sai Baba, as Sai Baba is term exclusively for the Shirdi Sai Baba"

satya : Sai Baba is a business man, he is doing spritual business. He is one of very few who succeed in this business. For that he shows the "atma lingam" "vibudhi" and gold rings. So many times cameras cathed his tricks. This comments also part of his tricks to improve his business. No need to consider his comments. How can we treat he is a sanyasi when enjoying AC rooms and all facilities.
( Posted: Tuesday , January 23, 2007 at 22:12 )

Posted by supriya on Friday , January 26, 2007 at 01:00 )

Question is not TRS, Question is slightening and in veil manner asking a status quo of the exploitation by this Political baba. How dare he says such a thing. He owes explanation and unconditional apology. He must be raided and all money, black money should be properly used.

Look at this Bhagwan he has Z category security and he does not have rastr and pranth gyan.
Bill gates is doing charity and few wise sentences from him do not make him bhagwan.

SUKANYA It is time People got to accept the truth that baba is an ordinary trickster who has attained fame and name through illegal and immoral activities.at the fag end oh his sucessful business and personal career where is the need for him to try to offer Political solutions

It is definetly sin according to section 420 to fool people saying he is incarnation of GOD. Was he not caught on camera cheating. Sin is the murders most foul in his ashram. He giving gold gifts with shop markings.
His sin is to roam in BMW and centralized AC ventures.
His sin is to forget that it is public money he is spending and if not it has to taxed. It is SIN that a man claiming to be god and going about as BABA is mostly seen with dubious politicians and only with politicians. ( Posted by swami

Krishna Rao Baba's comments are taken as misinterpretation. All that Baba wanted to emphasis was unity and human oneness. If feeling of regional separation increases in every part of india, India would easily be attacked any foreign forces as it happend in history. Stand united and solve problems. One more thing no one suppressing any other.
Evey region has their own problems not only Telangana. Solution is to get divided. If that is the only solution, India should be divided into many small countries.

By The way, what did KCR (TRS Chief) do to his own constituency when he was MLA and Central cabinet Minister for Labour and is MP. If he cant deliver fecilitis to his own constituency, what can he do to remaining Telangana.
( Posted: Tuesday , January 23, 2007 at 20:35 )

venkat Reddy : Where was this Baba, when we are marginalized? Where was he when central and state govt jobs are looted by Andhra/Rayalseema cunning capitalists. Does he read the SRC commission report and Nehru's views on Telangana?
This Baba is from Rayalseema, same area of AP CM who had a secret chat for 40 minutes. Baba if really were Baba should have told him to stop occupying the lands of Hyderabad and other regions of Telagana for his relatives, kith and kin and using state funds to make roads and flyovers in wrong places to help real estate prices. He should have told that is sin. He should have told AP CM that this wholesale loot is a sin. Does someone want a debate? 40,000 acres of land in Hyderabad at stake and displaced are us. Down with capitalists-real estate-MNCs and Babas. Down with congress we elected.

 Its unfotunate that, these student unions going to a temple and destryoying it. There is nothing wrong in Sai Baba saying everyone should be united, Mr. KCR always provokes and instigates voilence, till now he and his party has not done anything for the telengana region, even when he was in union cabinet he never did anything. He just wants money and power at cost of students and people.Its KCR who should appligies for hurting sentiments of millions of people.
( Posted: Tuesday , January 23, 2007 at 21:36 )

Shri Sai Baba's remarks is to be viewed in the right perspective.
Our Great Thinkers, Reformers, Leaders, Spiritual Gurus were always stated about Humanity and Equality. Even before independence all leaders were unanimous about equality and created secular state. Mahakavi Bharathi has visualised the free india with all people having same mind,rights and responsibilities - that is Nationalism without any discrimination among the people.
However BIG blunder was made when the states were created on liguistic lines. Regional political parties spread hatred among people on liguistic and caste lines. Now literally these linguistic & caste political parties are ruling the country and dividing the society by the name of caste/quota & other means. To get the minority/cast votes, now Govt. of Tamil Nadu has asked for re-writing of new constitution - saying that to protect the interest of opressed people - social justice is needed - hence new constitution required.

If we would have created the states purely based on geaographical method, lots and lots of problems would not have created like river disputes, border disputes and race disputes, etc.
My dream solution is that borders should be made with straight line as in the case in US and Australia. By doing so States should be reorganised and all regional languages should be made official languages.
If we create straight line above Madurai, there is no Mulla Periaya issue and Tamil, Mayalalee issue and there is two capitals one in Thiruvananthapuram and another in Madurai like in Kashmir, Maharashtra. Govt. and Private employees can be transferred to other areas so that they will know extra languages and Nationalism will grow.
If we draw another line abvoe Chennai. There will be no Kaveri problem, Chennai and Bangalore would be state capitals. Above Chennai we can draw vertical lines also as per area / population. In Pondicherry, Tamil, English, French, Telugu, Malayalam are official languages. Think Pleas
( Posted: Tuesday , January 23, 2007 at 21:48 )

Baba has said that dividing the people of a land is sin and there is no doubt about it. Those fighting for Telangana should read the history books and see how sentiments of people have been misused by narrow minded leaders for their selfish ends.
I pity the people involved in Telangana separtatist movement because perhaps they will see their grandsons forming some other '...gana' out of Telangana, if they succeed in their selfish objectives.
( Posted: Tuesday , January 23, 2007 at 19:53 )

 Sai baba was simply expressing his opinion.

India is a democratic country and I believe every one has right to express (led them be a god men or ordinary men)

I find people… reacting to it to be crazy……

( Posted: Tuesday , January 23, 2007 at 19:38 )

Guys wake up. Politicians are just trying to raise silly issues to increase their importance. What baba said was "Unity is good for the country" is this wrong ? People are nuts to follow self centered politicians and be used by them as pwans.

Edited by author 02-28-2008 11:55 PM
/m2253

Tony, WHY are you so DUMB and dishonest (trying to mislead people)?

First of all, I asked Priddy the question, NOT you. I don't want to hear your ridiculous drivel as I've already listened to it. I'm confronting Priddy with his obvious idiocy and I deserve an explanation after having to listen to his hate speech and lies for so long. I'd like to know why a person who claims he is a "scholar," (who pretends to be a psychologist when he is merely a philosopher) is buying into this garbage about supernaturally morphing genitalia. I'm asking the so-called "rationalists" the same question but they are busy hiding out somewhere lest they show the egg on their faces.

You are not an expert on hypnotism Tony so please quit trying to act like one. Hypnotism cannot create REAL objects and there is NO REAL world data proving Baba EVER studied hypnotism. If you are going to make irresponsible accusations you better be prepared to back them up with some actual EVIDENCE. The REAL world data very clearly indicates these people making accusations are habitual liars (like you, Priddy, Pittard and Dadlani) who feed off of one anothers illness. No speculation needed. Where is your healthy scepticism and requirement for PROOF Tony baloney? Why are you such hypocrites when it comes to this issue and your double standard regarding scepticism? You hear a ridiculous story and you automatically believe it because it suits your hate campaign.

Since WHEN do sex pervs play magic tricks with their prey (twenty-some year old men) dumbos? And you have not explained how Baba is supposedly making his penis disappear and REAPPEAR! You seem to conveniently FORGET people are saying it is THERE and then it isn't THERE. A penis would leave a lump no matter where it is and it cannot be higher on the body so quit trying to play doctor. Nobody who claims to have seen his thing said it was higher on the body you dolt. Why are you dummies so bent on speculating like idiots just to try and be "right"? That is so immature it is disgusting. Now grow up and get a life.

It is pathetic listening to a wacko like you constantly driveling your drunken nonsense! This is what happens when pseudo-intellectuals like you have no evidence to prove your idiotic drivel. You start creating all kinds of idiotic theories (mind imaginings as you call them) and conspiracies like the gullible "true believers" that you are. Go do the Twelve Step Alcoholics Anonymous program Tony so you can learn to think like an adult and take responsibility for your idiocy. Your fairytale mentality doesn't cut it in the REAL world Tony.



Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 02-20-2007 03:08 PM
Spamming the board with comments people make about Sai Baba in newspapers is just another form of cheap propaganda. Get a life, Priddy et al.

Racists like you are a dime a dozen. In the end, nobody listens to you because they see how SELFISH, shallow, dishonest and downright evil you are.

To a person who is hypnotised real is perception, the material stuff he actually just conjurs and admits it himself.

The secret of the morphing genitals is simply this. sb is a hermaphrodite with both genitalia. He apparently can withdraw his scrotum like the karate experts can. This would leave his vagina and penis. His penis is quite diminutive, and odd shape, and no doubt is higher on his abdomen due to his having male and female sexual organs. So guiding a hand to below the penis would give the impression of morphing.
Remember sb talked in his discourse about ateeta sakti or group hypnotism, often seen on stage shows. He actually did this one time convincing people they saw a monkey appear, shrink and disappear. I actually talked to one of the people present. So having one's mind influenced by him in a confined space is no big deal, neither is hypnotism.

These are not conversations, and they cannot be carried on with people who see other dead people. That's too funny. I haven't got a clue what you guys are all talking about but its pretty funny. If there's dead people involved then its even funnier. I expect you believe in God as well?

Edited by author 03-05-2008 07:05 AM
/m2270

Where is the PROOF Baba is a hermaphrodite who can withdraw his testicles? I know in your fairytale world and drunken mind imaginings he can do this but really we are dealing with the REAL world here, not Ickian nonsense you have learned from your wackadoodle fascist friends.


I have more proof that you are a sexual pervert (out of your own disgusting mouth) than I do that Baba studied hypnotism or is a hermaphrodite. If the dummies making the accusations could actually prove Baba was a hermaphrodite in court (which would be monumental evidence in a molestation trial), they would have NO problem proving they were sexually approached now would they bozo? So why are they not doing it since they claim to want to put Baba behind bars so badly? Do you realize how dumb you appear to those who actually know how to use their brain for something besides a hat rack? You guys are ALL talk and NO walk. You are ALL hot air balloons who just cannot back up your stupid and irresponsible accusations with EVEN ONE IOTA of PROOF.

Funny that you cannot discern your OWN silly mind imaginings Tony, also known as your fairytale mentality. Doesn't surprise me that a pathological liar like you feels compelled to enable other schizophrenics and pathological liars who live in their own fantasy world! You feel that you are the ONLY special ones who know the truth about Sai Baba (too funny). If you weren't so arrogant, headstrong and downright evil, I might feel pity for you and your delusion.

You must also be deaf and dumb as you obviously don't LISTEN or want to LISTEN. You just want to run your mouth 24/7. You act like a typical obnoxious drunk.

***********

Lest I repeat myself:

Tony, WHY are you so DUMB and dishonest (trying to mislead people)?

First of all, I asked Priddy the question, NOT you. I don't want to hear your ridiculous drivel as I've already listened to it. I'm confronting Priddy with his obvious idiocy and I deserve an explanation after having to listen to his hate speech and lies for so long. I'd like to know why a person who claims he is a "scholar," (who pretends to be a psychologist when he is merely a philosopher) is buying into this garbage about supernaturally morphing genitalia. I'm asking the so-called "rationalists" the same question but they are busy hiding out somewhere lest they show the egg on their faces.

You are not an expert on hypnotism Tony so please quit trying to act like one. Hypnotism cannot create REAL objects and there is NO REAL world data proving Baba EVER studied hypnotism. If you are going to make irresponsible accusations you better be prepared to back them up with some actual EVIDENCE. The REAL world data very clearly indicates these people making accusations are habitual liars (like you, Priddy, Pittard and Dadlani) who feed off of one anothers illness. No speculation needed. Where is your healthy scepticism and requirement for PROOF Tony baloney? Why are you such hypocrites when it comes to this issue and your double standard regarding scepticism? You hear a ridiculous story and you automatically believe it because it suits your hate campaign.

Since WHEN do sex pervs play magic tricks with their prey (twenty-some year old men) dumbos? And you have not explained how Baba is supposedly making his penis disappear and REAPPEAR! You seem to conveniently FORGET people are saying it is THERE and then it isn't THERE. A penis would leave a lump no matter where it is and it cannot be higher on the body so quit trying to play doctor. Nobody who claims to have seen his thing said it was higher on the body you dolt. Why are you dummies so bent on speculating like idiots just to try and be "right"? That is so immature it is disgusting. Now grow up and get a life.

It is pathetic listening to a wacko like you constantly driveling your drunken nonsense! This is what happens when pseudo-intellectuals like you have no evidence to prove your idiotic drivel. You start creating all kinds of idiotic theories (mind imaginings as you call them) and conspiracies like the gullible "true believers" that you are. Go do the Twelve Step Alcoholics Anonymous program Tony so you can learn to think like an adult and take responsibility for your idiocy. Your fairytale mentality doesn't cut it in the REAL world Tony.



Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 02-20-2007 10:08 PM
/m2271

Well, one thing we know for sure, James (or Sanjay playing his multiple personality mind games), the intelligence which runs your body and keeps you alive is much smarter than you are.

We can also see you are an expert at mocking people You must have taken Mocking 101 in college. Your mother must be very proud of you and your great brain.

Edited by author 02-29-2008 12:27 AM
It is obvious the anti-Sais in general do NOT have the ability to process data. Some of this is sheer stupidity and some of it is intentional on their part. Such as the blatant lies, etc. They should also add "inability to ASK intelligent questions" to this definition.

Alcoholism/drug abuse (whether past or present) and dishonesty are two of the main reasons.

Another reason could also be bribery.


Main Entry: dumb
Pronunciation: 'd&m
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Etymology: Middle English, from Old English; akin to Old High German tumb mute

6 a : lacking intelligence : STUPID b : showing a lack of intelligence <asking dumb questions> c : requiring no intelligence (dumb luck)
7 : not having the capability to process data (a dumb terminal)



Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 02-21-2007 01:08 AM
From CNN IBN It is definetly sin according to section 420 to fool people saying he is incarnation of GOD. Was he not caught on camera cheating. Sin is the murders most foul in his ashram. He giving gold gifts with shop markings.

Edited by author 02-21-2007 06:02 AM
/m2275

Usedbybaba why are you posting as truth seeker? Even Priddy sounds smarter than you if not by much.

You are a very ignorant person.

Jesus, who went to India, also claimed he was God and all men were God. Was he a fraud?

What about people like YOU who continually murder the truth and seek to kill the spirit of man which is worse? There was no proof of cheating on camera, you are lying once again. Baba didn't murder anyone you liar.

Like I've said before, criminal accusations must be addressed in COURT. The fact that you cowards can do nothing but hang out on the internet and whine like the crybabies you are for YEARS ON END speaks volumns as to your lack of PROOF of any of your ridiculous claims. You are in bed with the racists and the atheists who abhor freedom of religion (even though the dummies themselves benefit from the freedom to practice their non religion without being ridiculed or persecuted...while they ridicule and persecute others for their beliefs...how smart is that?) and you are echoing their drum beat like you are their kith and kin. Whine all you want about peoples beliefs regarding God but unless a person commits a crime their beliefs are sacrosanct (even YOURS regarding Baba no matter how misguided and idiotic).
So, instead of whining us to boredom, if you think Baba is a fraud put up or shut up and prove it in court, cowards. Even Kreydick, who had the courage to state his convictions UNDER OATH in the U.S. is more courageous than all of you nitwits put together. You had the chance to prove yourselves there and you cowered and ran away.

Once again you show you are an ignoramus who is obvously NOT a Hindu. Metals and gems in Hinduism have great spiritual significance, protection and healing powers so once again you show you are a greedy materialist who thinks only of money. Your remark is the type of superficial and callous remark a racist would make.

From CO2000 -Metals and gems in Hinduism have great spiritual significance, protection and healing powers

FromCNN IBN -He giving gold gifts with shop markings.

Edited by author 02-21-2007 09:01 AM

India deserves a (more) dignified and responsible President

http://www.rationalistinternational.net/

FRom rationalist international.net -The aging godman stands accused of sexual abuse of minors among his devotees. Numerous cases of victims from India and abroad have come to light. Though Indian authorities seem still far away from opening a trial against the well-connected offender, too many victims and witnesses - mainly from Europe and USA - have broken their silence to further ignore his crimes. Some of their statements are recorded in articles that appeared in the London based The Daily Telegraph and in the film documentary "Seduced by Sai Baba", produced by the Danish State Television. In 2000, UNESCO washed its hands off Sai Baba by deciding neither to sponsor nor take part in a conference it had been planning to organize along with the Institute of Sathya Sai Education (ISSE, Thailand) and The Flinders University Institute of International Education (Australia), in Puttaparthi, India.

Edited by author 02-21-2007 09:10 AM
CO2000:Like I've said before, criminal accusations must be addressed in COURT.
Rationalist international.net :"In December 2005, I have written a letter to President Dr. Abdul Kalam, which was never answered. It demanded criminal investigations against Sai Baba. "If Sai Baba's social development projects are meant to be indulgence to nullify his crimes, this procedure is unprecedented and unacceptable", I wrote. "It is a shame for India that well-founded accusations and numerous reputed witnesses against Sai Baba are ignored without any investigation. Do saffron clothes make an offender untouchable for the law? Do we have to tolerate that political protectionism raises its head so boldly, mocking India's democracy?" I asked in my letter.

From Rationalistinternational.net: India: Tsunami bishops trouble Tamil Nadu

The south Indian state of Tamil Nadu may have the worldwide highest rate of churches per capita. Though only a small minority of people call themselves Christians, there are said to be as many as 1500 independent Christian churches represented in the Independent Churches of India Association in Chennai (earlier Madras). Most of them belong to the huge and ever-growing group of evangelical churches that are founded and supported from abroad. Some are Anglican or Orthodox splinter groups. Many are Pentecostals of different origin. They have names like Calvari Mission Trust or Halleluyah Full Gospel Missionaries of India. Though quite tiny and never heard of, many of these independent churches have their own bishops. Nobody knows exactly, how many robed men are roaming around, who has appointed them and who is paying them.

From CNN IBN
Its unfotunate that, these student unions going to a temple and destryoying it. There is nothing wrong in Sai Baba saying everyone should be united, Mr. KCR always provokes and instigates voilence, till now he and his party has not done anything for the telengana region, even when he was in union cabinet he never did anything. He just wants money and power at cost of students and people.Its KCR who should appligies for hurting sentiments of millions of people.
( Posted: Tuesday , January 23, 2007 at 21:36 )

From CNN IBN
Shri Sai Baba's remarks is to be viewed in the right perspective.
Our Great Thinkers, Reformers, Leaders, Spiritual Gurus were always stated about Humanity and Equality. Even before independence all leaders were unanimous about equality and created secular state. Mahakavi Bharathi has visualised the free india with all people having same mind,rights and responsibilities - that is Nationalism without any discrimination among the people.
However BIG blunder was made when the states were created on liguistic lines. Regional political parties spread hatred among people on liguistic and caste lines. Now literally these linguistic & caste political parties are ruling the country and dividing the society by the name of caste/quota & other means. To get the minority/cast votes, now Govt. of Tamil Nadu has asked for re-writing of new constitution - saying that to protect the interest of opressed people - social justice is needed - hence new constitution required.

If we would have created the states purely based on geaographical method, lots and lots of problems would not have created like river disputes, border disputes and race disputes, etc.
My dream solution is that borders should be made with straight line as in the case in US and Australia. By doing so States should be reorganised and all regional languages should be made official languages.
If we create straight line above Madurai, there is no Mulla Periaya issue and Tamil, Mayalalee issue and there is two capitals one in Thiruvananthapuram and another in Madurai like in Kashmir, Maharashtra. Govt. and Private employees can be transferred to other areas so that they will know extra languages and Nationalism will grow.
If we draw another line abvoe Chennai. There will be no Kaveri problem, Chennai and Bangalore would be state capitals. Above Chennai we can draw vertical lines also as per area / population. In Pondicherry, Tamil, English, French, Telugu, Malayalam are official languages. Think Pleas
( Posted: Tuesday , January 23, 2007 at 21:48 )

Om sairam to my beloved Sai Family,
Greetings from the land of Sai Shiva, the abode of Highest peace,Prasanthi Nilayam. This year’s Maha Shivarathri celebrations were fully CHARGED with divine energy and perennial stream of love of our beloved Sai Ma.

The streets of Puttaparthi were packed, the Kulwanth Hall was obviously packed and double the number of people were waiting out side to get a glimpse of Sai Shiva… our beloved Swami.

16th February 2007

This morning the hall was packed by 3 am and same number of devotees were lined up for afternoon darshan on the hill top. Swami came around 8:15 to bless the gathering with His divine darshan. I was almost at the end of the hall, and during festivals, crowd is just uncontrollable raising from the seats, raising their hands, I hardly had a glimpse of Swami. For the past one week, it was the same for me. Which ever line I choose, that gets last or second last token number. I was wondering as what would have gone wrong. I was very much convinced that its all His play and pain is followed by pleasure.

The morning session completed with distribution of prasad. After receiving the prasad, I went out to see the queue and the area behind Ganesha was full. Not knowing what to do, I was walking by East Prasanthi. There I met one elderly devotee from New Zealand, who was in queue for the bench. While I was talking to him, I saw a huge flood of devotees rushing towards the Kulwanth Hall entry gate. My 70 Kilo body was literally carried away as if the doors of a dam was opened. Before the sevadals could come and control the crowd, I found my self entering the Kulwanth hall. I was in fact 9th person to get in and being a BIG day, the whole first line spots were reserved for VIPs. There were only 15 vacant spots in the first row and being the 9th person, I rushed to get a spot. It was all His play. I had no idea what I was going through. In no time I found myself in a perfect CAMERA MAN kinda spot where I could see the whole proceedings. My heart was crying, I had no words to describe the happiness. Swami, all these days, played with me and now compensated with a first row, and this is NOT an ordinary day.. I was thanking my stars for this boon. There was a big group of Russians sitting next to me. It was only 10:30 am then and we all were inside for the afternoon darshan which would be any time after 3:30.

I knew it was all a patience game.. Just closed my eyes, repeating Lord’s name. It was 3:30pm and there was no trace of Swami yet. Many devotees were standing, some stretching their bodies, some taking a deep breath. The crowd out side was so huge that there was no chance to go out to take a break as there was no guarantee that we will come back to our spots. It was 4pm and the security near Swami’s House get alert signaling the arrival of the Lord of the Lords. Facing us were students and they were very close to the path way and Swami’s car, slowly entered the Kulwanth hall amidst Veda chantings and music. All were eager and excited as what would happen and wondering if the history will repeat again, will He take the Atma Linga again, will we see the intolerable pain Swami’s body undergoes.. Swami’s car now gets towards the gents side. As the students had almost occupied the path, the car had to get close to us.. so close that even the security couldn’t stand next to the car. Swami came towards us, was analyzing Swami’s mood, Swami’s car comes close to us and the beautiful form gets more clearer and clearer. He was all smiling, He was reading our minds.. Was praying from heart, Swami, no more linga, your darshan is the highest gift for us.. As Swami was right in front of us, He looks into my eyes, those looks which are full of compassion, those looks which are soothing, those looks which can scan one’s past, present and future, those looks which will make our hearts dance in joy.. O Swami!! How can I express my gratitude to you, You are a ocean of Compassion..

As Swami was smiling and blessing each and every one the car slowly passes by. as the car enters the students’ zone, many primary school students go to Swami showing the replica’s of various forms of Shiva lingams. Swami closely looked at each and every one.. After the car was halted near the dias, Swami came on the dias. He asks one of the boys, to call upon Mr. Raju, the chairman of Nagarjuna Construction group, who is a long time ardent devotee of Swami, whose leg had to be amputated recently because of a snake bite. Mr. Raju, came in his wheel chair, and sat next to Swami. I remember he was blessed the same day in 2006 to read few of the 17,000 poems which he has personally written in praise of Swami. Mr. Raju read the poems in Swami’s immediate presence. The poems were beautifully written in telugu and the reading went on close to an hour.

Later Swami called upon Mr.Popat, (who always likes to refer himself as Puppet) from UK shared his views about Swami. Being an eloquent speaker he was very impressive wit his characteristic blend of Hindi and English. He was of the opinion that its time for all of us to decide if we want to become good men or great person, a successful man or a perfect devotee of Baba. Its better to have His anugraha (grace) than all name, fame, wealth.

The objective of our sadhana is to realize God. We are fortunate to have God himself in our midst. Swami has come to realize that YOU ARE NOT THE BODY.. you are NO BODY. There is no ownership, doer ship, and knower ship. Its all Him. What is the role to be performed? We are just puppets in His hands. Only His smile is more than any awards or rewards. No one came here on their own. He brought us all. You pray to Him and He will come running to you.

We all are chosen children of our Lord. We have lots of responsibility on our shoulders. How many devotees go back to their places and contemplate and follow His words. Our Swami is Loka Nath. He is omnipresent. He works silently without any publicity.

Mr.Popat continued Your aim is to go forward, upward but INWARD. There are 7 up steps. First wake up, standup, dress up, look up, reach up, lift up and last and Swami likes it a lot, Shut up. Do every thing in the name of God and shut up. What ever you want to convey, convey heart to heart. What does Swami expects us to do. Wake up, with a spirit of God, realize your true identity. Sathya, Dharma, Santhi Prema and Ahimsa. Next stand up, we are not animals, neither are we birds, we are Sai Bhakta, aham brahmasmi, how do we get up. We have to make up our mind, that I will behave like a human being. What ever you want to ask, ask our Sai Ma. That’s our right.

Look up, be positive. Swami says, I am around you, below you be aware that I am aware. Every thought should be divine. Always know that Swami knows every thing. As long as we breath, as long as the food we eat is digested, take it that Swami is with us.

Once we look up Reach up, where ever you go go with conviction. When you see a poor man, you must feel the hunger. You should reach his heart. Poor people smile only when their tears are wiped, with love.
21 st century will not be preaching but reaching.. He is going to reach each and every one.
After you reach up, lift up after seeing Swami, listening His messages, we should lift up the poor and destitutes.

After doing all this shut up. Shouldn’t say anything.100% involvement an 0% attachment.

We have come here for a purpose. Make us to walk on sai path, sathya dharma Santhi Prema and Ahimsa.

Later Mr.Popat, concluded his talk making all of us praise our beloved Swami…

The next programme was what we all were looking forward to. It was also bit tense, what if Swami decides to take Lingam? Can we bear the pain again? As all these thoughts were pondering, Swami orders to get the discourse table to be placed before Him. He slowly raises from His seat, as there was a cheerful applauds from the audience, Swami adjusts the microphone, a broad smile at all the devotees and starts His discourse with a sweet telugu poem..…

Excerpts from the discourse


Sathyambu nandundi sarvambu srushtinche

Sathyambu nanadanage sarva shrusti

Sathya mahima leni stalamedi kanugonna

Shudda satwa midiye choodarayya

Every thing is born from truth and the cosmos will merge in truth. There is no place where Truth is absent.

TRUTH IS CHANGELESS

Every where truth pervades. Truth is propelling all over. Truth has no form and is every where. What ever you see is truth. (Swami now raises His hand, We all thought he is going to mention some thing about the bulbs but surprising all materializes a small golden object, to me it looked like a Lingam of the size of a peanut, He didn’t move His hands much, He got it from the thin air, as if He was plucking a fruit from a tree) it had a bright shine.. Swami continues This is Truth…where from this came and it will go back to truth again. (so saying He disappeared the object in the thin air) Sathyam is multidimensional. Truth is one but none can realize this. truth is not merely verbal. Truth can manifest in various forms. Brahma is one. God is only truth and all others are just reflections of divine. This truth has many names. Every thing has to emerge from truth. Dharma is originated from truth. There is no other Dharma beyond truth. When Sathya Dharma go together you get peace. Out of peace, you find love emanating. It binds every body. There is no place without love. Out of Love you have ananda (bliss). There is no hatred after you have love. If you want non-violence you should just have love. Mamai vamso jeevaloke jeeva bhootah sanatanaha we all are sparks of God. You are not separate. You are al MY reflections. Body and names may vary.. there is only one Atma in all. Body has got its own name.. why? For recognition. This is only for identification. Atma is same in all..


GIVE UP DUALITY

Today Love is categorized as separate entity. Love is ONE and same. Never give any
Scope for differences. Never have any duality. When there no duality you will have peace. Man with dual mind is half blind. You have 2 eyes. Both the eyes see same object. WE ALL ARE O NE. We all the children of same mother. We should acquire that one ness. Then only humanity will be united. Who is Human being. Is he the one with legs and hands. One who has no differences is HUMAN. There should not be any scope for differences. Bodies might be different, Atma is one. Names and forms are different. We should not develop differences with names and forms. We should be united where ever you are. Jewels are many gold is one, colour of cows are different but milk is one, we are born as human beings. How ever there might be some differences physically. Bulbs are many, current is one. There fore all bodies are equal.

PRAYER FROM DEVOTEES

Later Swami announced amidst loud cheers that He is not going to do the Lingodbhavam.
I am very happy to demonstrate the one ness of humanity. I received lakhs of letters from devotees all over the world asking not to perform lingodbhavam. Many doctors said its not good for Your body. For the man to know the truth I need to do that. For the blood to form as solid, one needs lot of energy. For utilization of this energy there should be enough strength. More over Each lingam weigh a lot. Many devotees said Swami it is not good to waste (your) valuable energy for this... those who believe YOU will believe and others are to be ignored. So please don’t strain your body…. Body is very is very important for us. We are here because of your body. We feel pain when YOUR body strains. So please control this energy. God can change earth into heaven and vice versa. So for temporary joy, please don’t strain Your body. This body is 82 years. This body will remain for some more time. Bhagwan will retain this energy to confer joy in the years to come. Very soon, I will make you all very happy (loud applauds). Those who go by body, this body is important.


YOU ARE GOD

Every thing has to merge in truth. Never think that God is far away. He is with in you. Every one should experience this divinity in you. Close your eyes and question, Who am I? What do you see? You don’t see anything. You will hear, who am I? Who am I? Then you will understand you are nobody. This body and name will be changing. Without difficulties you can’t enjoy happiness. Pleasure is an interval between two pains. Where there is difficulty there is happiness. The pain lasts for a short time. in order to have the bliss we have to be prepared to face minor difficulties..


SCIENCE HAS TAKEN A WORST TURN

Students, today science has progressed but has come down to perform unethical practices. Its leading to imbalance. Each country is noticing certain changes. Even cows are fed with meat with a hope that it will yield more milk. But there are many disease for the cow and those that drink the milk. Only a Indian can lead a natural life. We should never be artificial. Every thing will be artificial if we lead a artificial life. Now a days there are so many changes in vegetables. We used to take lots of green leafy vegetables. They are of great nutritional value. Because thy are grown out of drainage water the vegetables are polluted. Brinjal curry(aubergine) is a favourite. Once upon time even Ravana appreciated the (aubergine)brinjal curry, Swami now sang a telugu poem, is there any enemy as mighty as Rama, is there any God as compassionate as Shiva, is there any curry as tasty as (aubergine) Brinjal curry.. (end of the poem) such was the place of Brinjal curry. Today even this Brinjal is polluted. Because of polluted food, our thoughts are polluted.

UPHOLD INDIAN CULTURE

Students you are knowledgeable. Don’t read picchi books. Follow the culture of Bharath. Many foreigners are enjoying the culture of Bharath. They are going to practice our culture and transform very soon. Shall we wait till then?.. NO.. No.. lets go on the right path right now.. God is there to help you. There is no need to fear. During My childhood days, I used to always help the poor. While I was moving around with a small knickers and shirt, they wanted to wear me a Panchi (A full cloth to cover the body). I used to go untouchables.( Swami sang a folk song.) We work day and night sow the crop and you enjoy at our expense. Where is the justice. Do you think God is not present. Give up the delusion. When I was teaching like this I was attacked. Even this body’s brother slapped me. He used say , why do YOU go there, You study. I was locked in the room. All people used to come to the room. They used to call, Raju.. Sathyam. I used to say, I will come to YOU.. I belong to You.. in this way, I was always with the poor, provide food, clothing and make them happy. Even till today, our students go around every street and distribute food and clothing. I used to share my own food if there was any beggar. If there was any one without cloth, I used to give my shirt. Those days to till now.. Help.. help..

FOLLOW SAI TEACHINGS

Many people say but they don’t practice have been supporting you, protecting you, teaching you. I have no trace of JEALOUSY, anger towards any body. BUT few people out of jealousy, do wrong propaganda because of rising glory. Good people face problems. Stones are pelted at the fruit bearing tree.
I don’t care, not I am afraid of any body. The name of the body is Sathyam. Truth never changes. Who ever comes here with anger, I am ready to correct them, rectify them. I will take every care to transform them. Nothing is wrong them. They retort to false propaganda. Its my duty to correct them. There is no trace of mistake in My life. All of you FOLLOW SAI.. Out of this path of truth, when you are determine to achieve YOU ARE BOUND TO BE SUCCESSFUL. Sing the glory of God and spread the truth.. (It was already 45 minutes since Swami was standing and now Swami sits down)


EAST& WEST GODAVRI VISIT NEXT WEEK

(Swami continued His talk saying that He would be visiting the districts of East and West Godavri in Andhra Pradesh state next week and visit many counties in future.)
Have I given you any strain? (There was a big no from the audience… I have no intention to hurt any one. I don’t entertain such thoughts. Whatever I do its FOR YOU. Even the little food I partake its for you...all actions are for the welfare of the humanity Who ever recognize this truth will be successful. Don’t go by any body’s words. Never believe any negative propaganda. The people of districts of East Godavari and West Godavari are drinking polluted water. I have not yet seen them. I felt very sad, watching them drink polluted water. I resolved to clean the water and provide the same to the people of E& W Godavari. From now on they will have pure water. loud applauds). Water is purified and all people are extremely happy. Next WEEK I AM GOING TO EAST GODAVARI DISTRICTS. They are extremely delighted hearing this news. They have cleaned all the roads and are ready to welcome Mr. RAMA Krishna from Larsen & Toubro company and Kondal Rao, chief Engineer will accompany Me.


SWAMI & WORLD TOUR

By doing good, all good things will follow. When you meet your enemy go to him and say friend how are you? Only then our name of institute will go high. We don’t charge even a penny. The students come here and go out with high degrees totally free. When children are good the whole country will advance. There are so many news from America. They say, Swami Your students are great. All this students are having great joy. There was a plane full of our students who recently came to Parthi. Now all are married with children. They felt extremely happy coming here.

I WILL VERY SOON GO AROUND THE WORLD. Lots and lots of devotees from (South) Africa and Russia are present here. You cannot estimate the devotion of Russians. In this gathering many are from Russia. All are very happy now. they have intense devotion loud applauds). I bless you all. You are no longer Russians you belong to ME (loud applauds) I LOVE YOU…

Swami later continued, In fact many devotees from Italy, Germany, and so on are here.. All belong to Swami. We have to learn many things from them. In fact they extended the help for the construction of indoor stadium. They consider Swami as their life. Where ever I go, these foreigners come with Me. They even came to Madras. They don’t care for the expenditure. We should learn a lot from them and their intense devotion.


12 hour long Akhanda Bhajans Started with Lambodara Hey Gowri nandana

the atmosphere whole night was fully charged with scintillating Shiva bhajans. It was just fantastic to see Swami and Sing His glory right in front of Him

17th February, 2007

the morning darshan started at 8:15 am and Swam surprised all of us by coming in the wheel chair right from His residence. It was so bliss full to see the blissful form manifested right in front of the eyes…. Being in the first line, it was a real close darshan to all. It reminded me of Swami with Lingam in 2006. Swami gave a beautiful smile and moved further.

Later Swami called upon Mr. Venkatraman to address the gathering. Mr.Venkatraman spoke about the experiences of the recently concluded Yagna in chennai. On the last day of the Yagna, the police commissioner came to the authorities and said, there was no problem during their duty hours as the devotees were well mannered and the police in turn had a chance to see Swami.

Mr. Venkatraman was of the opinion that the meeting in Chennai people in Nehru Indoor stadium was a perfect example of Unity in diversity. Political leaders of various parties, setting aside their political rivalries participated in the programme with Swami in the middle.

Later Swami rose from His seat to give the Divine discourse,

Swami spoke on Sankara and Shakti. Swami asked to give up ego and attachment. Ego and attachment is a big mistake. Divine power is every where. Always respect one’s own mother and father. Swami gave a nice example here, once Shiva and Parvathi were on a plane. There Parvathi sees one man on a tree. She knows he is going to fall from the tree. She urges Lord Shiva to rescue th man. Lord Shiva, says, I have nothing to do with him. When He falls and if he calls Abba (father) then I will go and rescue and if he calls Amma (mother) then you can rescue.. This man after sometime falls from the tree and instead of saying Abba or Amma says Ayyo (meaning Oops). There fore its always important to think of parents.

Later Swami blessed the prasad consisting of Pulihora (tamarind rice) and laddu. Makeshift lines were formed so that the students would walk freely between lines and serve food. It was such a nice feeling to BREAK- FAST with the food blessed by our beloved Mother Sai. As we all were eating, our beloved Sai Ma was watching all of us, just like a mother watching her kids eat and the happiness of the child fills her stomach, and as Swami has said, MY DEVOTEES HAPPINESS IS MY FOOD.. O Swami!! Koti Pranam, sata Koti Pranams

Bless us all to be Your Darling children…..

Truth is changeless but not sb's genitals.
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You said that you see dead people and TALK to them. You are the last person to talk other other people's level of intelligence. Go and see a doctor you fucking nutjob.

Edited by author 02-21-2007 11:48 AM
/m2283 to /m2286 Were written by me - Angel

/m2280 /m2275 /m2277 /m2281 /m2282 These are my mails and those on Idi Amin the Baba lover were also mine.

Baba Lovers 1. Idi Amin
            2. Joe
            3. Angel
            4. Lisa
            5. Hitler
            6. Musollini
            7.All Corrupt Indian Politicians,Judges, Police officers
            8.Homosexuals and gays

sb said.'I WILL VERY SOON GO AROUND THE WORLD. Lots and lots of devotees from (South) Africa and Russia are present here. '

As you can see he has never ever left India since the late 60s and has broken every promise to do so. We are waitng with our legal documents for him to come to the West.

Edited by author 02-21-2007 12:13 PM
Tony
I have seen baba and his thing. It is normal but rises to a rare occasion.
All this disappearing thing is nothing but a trick.I guarantee you that he is
is an expert at this. Years of experience makes him judge people very very quickly. He once told a visiting professor that his left eye is not good.This Professor came and told me how Baba was omnipresent etc., In reality, this professor was wearing a thick glass on the left and an obviously thinner glass on the right.
One of the students told me about the disappearing cock and he agreed with my explanation and started laughing, realizing how stupid he had been.

Time draws near for the demise of the great murderous pervatar fraud.
http://home.hetnet.nl/~ex_baba/engels/shor...ainvestigation.html

TRUTH IS CHANGELESS

Every where truth pervades. Truth is propelling all over. Truth has no form and is every where. What ever you see is truth. (Swami now raises His hand, We all thought he is going to mention some thing about the bulbs but surprising all materializes a small golden object, to me it looked like a Lingam of the size of a peanut, He didn’t move His hands much, He got it from the thin air, as if He was plucking a fruit from a tree) it had a bright shine.. Swami continues This is Truth…where from this came and it will go back to truth again. (so saying He disappeared the object in the thin air) Sathyam is multidimensional. Truth is one but none can realize this. truth is not merely verbal. Truth can manifest in various forms. Brahma is one. God is only truth and all others are just reflections of divine. This truth has many names. Every thing has to emerge from truth. Dharma is originated from truth. There is no other Dharma beyond truth. When Sathya Dharma go together you get peace. Out of peace, you find love emanating. It binds every body. There is no place without love. Out of Love you have ananda (bliss). There is no hatred after you have love. If you want non-violence you should just have love. Mamai vamso jeevaloke jeeva bhootah sanatanaha we all are sparks of God. You are not separate. You are al MY reflections. Body and names may vary.. there is only one Atma in all. Body has got its own name.. why? For recognition. This is only for identification. Atma is same in all..

Sairam, I would like to inform my devotees that I did not bring out the lingam this year because many devotees and doctors appealed to me not to do it. The real reason is because I am close to death and I am too weak to do these childish things. Remember the lingams I've given in the past (especially to my favorite young boyz) and meditate on my wondrous leelas. With love, Baba.

Time for an update:

• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed




• Anthony "Tony" O'Clery Exposed




• Barry Pittard Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

Oh too funny. It appears that the ever-deceptive Sanjay Dadlani is attempting to get involved in the discussion incognito because he doesn't want others to know his extra-Wikipedia Anti-Sai defamation campaigns. lol

Truth seeker 2281
02-21-2007 09:12 AM ET (US)
 
you can wake someone who is sleeping but not those who pretend to be sleeping
Truth seeker 2280
02-21-2007 09:09 AM ET (US)
 
Edited by author 02-21-2007 09:10 AM
CO2000:Like I've said before, criminal accusations must be addressed in COURT.
Rationalist international.net :"In December 2005, I have written a letter to President Dr. Abdul Kalam, which was never answered. It demanded criminal investigations against Sai Baba. "If Sai Baba's social development projects are meant to be indulgence to nullify his crimes, this procedure is unprecedented and unacceptable", I wrote. "It is a shame for India that well-founded accusations and numerous reputed witnesses against Sai Baba are ignored without any investigation. Do saffron clothes make an offender untouchable for the law? Do we have to tolerate that political protectionism raises its head so boldly, mocking India's democracy?" I asked in my letter.
Truth seeker 2279
02-21-2007 09:05 AM ET (US)
 
FRom rationalist international.net -The aging godman stands accused of sexual abuse of minors among his devotees. Numerous cases of victims from India and abroad have come to light. Though Indian authorities seem still far away from opening a trial against the well-connected offender, too many victims and witnesses - mainly from Europe and USA - have broken their silence to further ignore his crimes. Some of their statements are recorded in articles that appeared in the London based The Daily Telegraph and in the film documentary "Seduced by Sai Baba", produced by the Danish State Television. In 2000, UNESCO washed its hands off Sai Baba by deciding neither to sponsor nor take part in a conference it had been planning to organize along with the Institute of Sathya Sai Education (ISSE, Thailand) and The Flinders University Institute of International Education (Australia), in Puttaparthi, India.

Joe108 = Angel = Truth seeker
Oh too funny. It appears that the ever-deceptive joe is attempting to get involved in the discussion incognito because he doesn't want others to know of his Pro Sai defamation campaigns. lol

Edited by author 03-24-2007 08:21 AM
/m2288

Sanjay, why don't you just grow up you nutjob? Go pray to your Krishna dolly for forgiveness for your evil ways.

Read something besides your comic books for once, dork brain.

I see all the anti-Sai wackos are out tonight wasting everyone's time with their insane pyschobabble and sicko mind games. Just think Tony baloney, these are the wackos who would be testifying in court...lol.

Not hard to see why so many of them are alcoholics and under psychiatric care.

We can only hope they get a grip soon before another one of them commits suicide and blames it on Sai Baba.


This page will show what a fraud and hypocrite usedbybaba aka usedcrybaby is:

USEDBYBABA EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED ANONYMOUS WHACKO ATTACKING SAI BABA

Edited by author 02-28-2008 11:48 PM
/m2300 Documenting usedbybaba posting fraudulently as me.

/m2299

Like I said usedcrybaby, I'm waiting for the (ir)rationalist hatemongers to explain why they are backing nutjobs like you who are trying to pass off stories about supernatually morphing genitalia.

Funny that someone as old as you is so immature you play such lowlife mind games on the internet hiding behind phony usernames. And you are so dumb you cannot even see what a con man you are.

You are all certifiable wackos. Get some help weirdos.



This page will show what a fraud and hypocrite usedbybaba aka usedcrybaby is:

USEDBYBABA EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED ANONYMOUS WHACKO ATTACKING SAI BABA

Look at you telling other people to get help. You see and talk to dead people, you are a fricking stupid nutcase how can you talk to dead people? Its so funny.

My God.What Language. Are you normal Mr/Ms CO2000. I read from your posts and others that Tony is an elderly person.In India we never speak of elderly people with so much disrespect.We don't call our father as 'my old man'.
Whatever be their view point, we call them Mr. or sir.This is how we speak.Even in our languages we have respectful terms like 'Ji' ( In Hindi and other north Indian Languages) Avaru in Kannada and Vaaru , meeru etc in Telugu (as suffix).It is unfortunate that you have to call them nut case,wacko,Dumbo etc.
If you follow a Indian Guru,I think it is better to follow the basic Indian courtesy and manners.
Please don't start using bad words against me.I am not in the picture but a recent observer. In India most people call Blacks as Negros ( they will respectfully say 'that Negro gentleman') ,not knowing that it is a derogatory remark.To us calling someone Black is an insult.
So it is better to adjust to the place and time than hurt people's sentiments.

Edited by author 02-22-2007 07:02 AM
/m2304

Usedcrybaby aka V. Prahaladh, why are you such a wacko and con job? You must get paid a lot of money to waste other peoples time. Apparently you hypocrites forget Sai Baba is elderly (older than YOU and O'Clery you goon) and look at how you wackos treat him. I should post some of Tony O'Clery's perverted language to show what a retard you are. Get a life ya weirdos!

Joe, don't forget to add this fake name (V. Prahaladh) to usedbybaba's list of phony usernames on his exposure page. I think that's 52 phony names now.

Spamming the board with your nutso rantings isn't going to cover up the truth about your sordid gang of thugs.


TONY O'CLERY EXPOSED

"You are right you will have to forgive my unsophistication. You see before I had any tertiary edu, I was a construction worker, cane-cutter, australian gigolo, union man, and surfer. Heaven for me was 'surfs up', and 'out the back', on Aussie beaches."--Tony O'Clery

You are all certifiable wackos. Get some help weirdos.

This page will show what a fraud and hypocrite usedbybaba aka usedcrybaby is:

USEDBYBABA EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED ANONYMOUS WHACKO ATTACKING SAI BABA

Edited by author 02-22-2007 06:56 AM
/m2303

What's so funny is that you are so stupid.


Sanjay, why don't you just grow up you nutjob? Go pray to your Krishna dolly for forgiveness for your evil ways. For those of you just tuning in, Sanjay is a misogynistic sex perv from Barnet England who thrives on jesus porn and was exposed for it and having a blog where he was stalking women with his video cam and posting their pics on it with weird captions such as "They want it" and other sicko stuff. Sanjay also admitted he downloaded child porn claiming he was an investigator for the IWF.

I see all the anti-Sai wackos are out tonight wasting everyone's time with their insane psychobabble and sicko mind games. Just think Tony baloney, these are the wackos who would be testifying in court...lol.

Not hard to see why so many of them are alcoholics and under psychiatric care.

We can only hope they get a grip soon before another one of them commits suicide and blames it on Sai Baba.


You play you pay Sanjay:

SANJAY DADLANI EXPOSED PART ONE


SANJAY DADLANI EXPOSED PART TWO

Edited by author 03-04-2007 01:05 AM
 /m2278

You are not very bright usedcrybaby. You also posted this on the saibabadiscussionclub board as Bill Dexter. Nice to see that you finally admit to being an atheist though.

Why should Kalam respond to a bunch of religiously intolerant (ir)rationalists, evangelicals and anti-Semites (white supremacists) who are backing wackos who claim Sai Baba's genitalia are morphing from male to female and don't even have the guts to file charges for their claims? Most likely Kalam thinks (and rightly so) you are a bunch of nutcases. After all, if an ordinary citizen like me can easily dig up the dirt I have on you creeps, I can only imagine what the CBI knows about you and your other sordid activities.

And why write the president attacking his religious beliefs apparently for political gain if you claim to have all this evidence on Sai Baba? Why don't you take it to the police and file charges you cowards? Funny how your whining is always seen just for what it is. Why are there so many mental retards in your group of thugs?

Like I said, I am calling for an investigation into those harassing Sai Baba and his organization.

Edited by author 02-22-2007 02:58 AM
Good idea Lisa.If you cannot answer someone , you can tell that person that he is usedbybaba or sanjay.
Try answering so many people who tell you not to unnecessarily call others names .That is, without any provocation. James is new and so are the others,don't escape by calling all of them as aka usedbybaba or aka sanjay. HAVE THE GUTS TO ACCEPT THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE MATTER TO WRITE

I guess James is turning a deaf ear to Tony O'Clery's claims that not only does he claim to see hear dead people, allegedly all of his family are psychics and he enters demon trances. Now that's something to laugh at. Oh yeah, Tony O'Clery is an Anti-Sai Activist ;-)

Edited by author 02-22-2007 03:05 AM
As far as Sai Baba is concerned, he is not a part of this forum and he is the accused and I am a victim.I or any of us are not directly talking to him.
So, if you want, you can call people names in your house but not in the net.I don't mind you calling me names because I can reply back,but Tony has been always been normal.You say he called you names ,can you quote a few.No you cannot.You call everyone names because YOU ARE SCARED TO FACE THE TRUTH

confusedbyaba, coming from a pathological liar like you, your comment about 'being scared to face the truth' is amusing. You just don't realize that the more you say, the more insane you appear. Everyone is having a good laugh at you and I'm sure Anti-Sai Activist's are gritting their teeth hoping you will shut up. I say...Keep Speaking.

• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed




• Anthony "Tony" O'Clery Exposed




• Barry Pittard Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

Lisa aks Joe .My answer to is

HA HA HA YOU HAVE NO GUTS TO SEE THE TRUTH

Tom Sackville, a former Home Office Minister, last night urged the Government to take decisive action to warn teachers and pilgrims of the dangers of becoming involved with Sai Baba. The guru's reputation is plummeting after the United Nations cancelled a conference at his headquarters, issuing a condemnation of his alleged sex abuse of youths and boys.

By the way Lisa wanted us Victims to go to the court and 'Sanal' the rationalist wrote to the PRESIDENT and the response was zero.
HO HO HO

Edited by author 02-22-2007 03:17 AM
I just don't realize that the more I say, the more insane I appear. Everyone is having a good laugh at me.What can I do I am paid by Baba to act like this

Edited by author 02-22-2007 05:49 AM
/m2310

No, Sai Baba isn't the accused, at this point he is the abused and harassed. In order for him to be the "accused" one of you cowards has to file charges you lowlife creepo. And, like I said, you are NOT a victim until you prove it in court. By all appearances you are a mentally disturbed anonymous harasser on the internet who cannot even prove he has a connection to Sai Baba.

Nobody feels sorry for a coward like you who hides behind over fifty usernames just to harass people.

Edited by author 02-28-2008 04:24 AM
/m2313

Yes, now we see why Sackville (what an appropros name for such an ignoramus) is a "former" Home Office Minister. Tony Colman lost his job as MP after he started using Parliament to attack Sai Baba without any proof of wrongdoing.

Too bad there are so many obvious racists in your camp, crudbaby.

BTW, you are NOT a victim until you prove it in court. You are merely an accuser at this point so don't flatter yourself. I don't even call you liars alleged victims anymore because you are so crooked I don't believe your claims. Not to mention you are just an anonymous harasser on the internet who cannot even prove he has ANY connection to Baba whatsoever so get real.

Edited by author 03-05-2008 07:16 AM
/m2308

Poor usedcrudbaby, he plays so many psychobabble games.
What drugs are you on? Nobody owes thugs like you an answer to begin with. But you are the hypocrite who keeps reminding people this board is about Sai Baba and now you are changing your rules? How dumb can you people possibly be? Just when one thinks you couldn't get any more hypocritical or dumb, you prove them wrong. Way to go, crudbaby.

And when are you going to say something intelligent? All you are doing is playing mind games and babbling like a nutcase. In other words, look in the mirror. How many phony usernames is that now ya wacko, fifty-three?
You should be ashamed of yourself for even trying to pretend that you are "honest" person. What a joke you are.

This page will show what a fraud and hypocrite usedbybaba aka usedcrybaby is:

USEDBYBABA EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED ANONYMOUS WHACKO ATTACKING SAI BABA

Edited by author 02-22-2007 04:31 AM
/m2291

Tony O'Clery the pathological liar who lives in his fairytale world. Tony thinks his nonexistent affidavits can be used to arrest Sai Baba. What a dummy! Please, Tony, do give us an example of a case where someone was arrested using affidavits (and ones that don't exist at that).
Not to mention that Sai Baba cannot be arrested for "accusations" he committed a crime in India you dummy. US jurisdiction does not include India but apparently you are too stupid to understand this.


Trust me Tony, if you wackos keep trying to incite hatemongers and nutcases like yourself, you are going to have to pay legally for your harassment. It's that simple Tony. If you cannot get your cowardly accusers (who are ALL grown men so there is NO excuse for such cowardliness) to file charges like any other law-abiding citizen must do then you better just shut up because it's obvious they are lying. Too bad you are too dumb to understand this.



TONY O'CLERY EXPOSED

"You are right you will have to forgive my unsophistication. You see before I had any tertiary edu, I was a construction worker, cane-cutter, australian gigolo, union man, and surfer. Heaven for me was 'surfs up', and 'out the back', on Aussie beaches."--Tony O'Clery

Edited by author 03-08-2008 09:49 PM
/m2312

Once again, take a good long look in the mirror at your anonymous and cowardly face. Fifty-three phony usernames and counting that you have hidden behind, remember? I'm looking right smack dab at the truth and what I see are a bunch of pathological liars like you who ought to be thrown in jail for harassment and fraud.

Try proving your claims in court like any other accuser has to do, coward. You bozos aren't "special". You do not get special treatment just because you claim you are scared. You've ALL had PLENTY of time to arrange for protection so you can file your claims and you haven't even tried. One can easily surmise the ONLY reason you bozos are "scared" is because you know you will easily be shown to be liars as you have been revealed here on the internet. All you've done is play your psychopathic mind games on the internet for years.

This page will show what a fraud and hypocrite usedbybaba aka usedcrybaby is:

USEDBYBABA EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED ANONYMOUS WHACKO ATTACKING SAI BABA

Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

TRUTH IS CHANGELESS

Every where truth pervades. Truth is propelling all over. Truth has no form and is every where. What ever you see is truth. (Swami now raises His hand, We all thought he is going to mention some thing about the bulbs but surprising all materializes a small golden object, to me it looked like a Lingam of the size of a peanut, He didn’t move His hands much, He got it from the thin air, as if He was plucking a fruit from a tree) it had a bright shine.. Swami continues This is Truth…where from this came and it will go back to truth again. (so saying He disappeared the object in the thin air) Sathyam is multidimensional. Truth is one but none can realize this. truth is not merely verbal. Truth can manifest in various forms. Brahma is one. God is only truth and all others are just reflections of divine. This truth has many names. Every thing has to emerge from truth. Dharma is originated from truth. There is no other Dharma beyond truth. When Sathya Dharma go together you get peace. Out of peace, you find love emanating. It binds every body. There is no place without love. Out of Love you have ananda (bliss). There is no hatred after you have love. If you want non-violence you should just have love. Mamai vamso jeevaloke jeeva bhootah sanatanaha we all are sparks of God. You are not separate. You are al MY reflections. Body and names may vary.. there is only one Atma in all. Body has got its own name.. why? For recognition. This is only for identification. Atma is same in all..

Lisa de witt wrote;'Tony O'Clery the pathological liar who lives in his fairytale world. Tony thinks his nonexistent affidavits can be used to arrest Sai Baba. What a dummy! Please, Tony, do give us an example of a case where someone was arrested using affidavits (and ones that don't exist at that).
Not to mention that Sai Baba cannot be arrested for "accusations" he committed a crime in India you dummy. US jurisdiction does not include India but apparently you are too stupid to understand this.'

Under Canadian, British, Australian and other jurisdictions, pedophilia abroad can be charged, if the sufferer is a citizen, I believe..Tony

In the meantime sue me or call the police. sb is a pervert, murderer, embezzler, thief, and pedophile---now I dare any sb org to sue me pleeeeeeaaaase!!

 "Tony OClery" <aoclery@> wrote:
> >
> > sb gave a discourse on hypnotism and it was in the sanathana
sarathi.
>
> Simon the genie who comes out of a bottle said; And the significance of that is?
>
Namaste
Because he uses it that's why. He has the siddhi of mass speaking like
hitler did, but his tantric conjurer uncle also obvioulsy taught him
more tricks like hypnotising people in small groups as well.Tony

Landmark ruling for child sex abuse vicitms


By Estelle Ellis

Adult survivors of child abuse can now sue their attackers for civil damages, even decades after it happened.

With this watershed judgment, the Supreme Court of Appeal has opened the doors for civil recourse for thousands of abuse survivors who had often been left without help, because previously, victims could not lay a charge for rape and child abuse if the crime happened more than 20 years earlier.

The application was brought by a Esme van Zijl, who was raped, sodomised and indecently assaulted by a relative more than 40 years ago.

In their judgment, the court has also recognised a well-known psychological phenomenon that adult survivors of child abuse sometimes take a long time to recognise that what they had suffered was not their fault.

'Abused children have a right of recourse against their abusers'The judgment, written by Justice of Appeal Jonathan Heher, brought South Africa on a par with the US, Australia, New Zealand and Canada in the recognition of the rights of adult survivors of child abuse.

Van Zijl, 51, wants to sue her relative, who is a retired businessman, so that she can pay for the extensive therapy she needs to overcome the serial rape and abuse she had allegedly suffered at his hands.

She claims that she was sexually abused, raped and sodomised by him between 1958 and 1965, starting when she was six years old.

In terms of the law, as it was before Monday's judgment, she should either have sued him within three years of the date that he first abused her, or in 1973, the year she turned 21. But Van Zijl became aware of the effect of abuse on her psyche, personality and ability to function as a person only in 1997.

"Abused children have a right of recourse against their abusers," Judge Heher said in his judgment.

'The law no longer conspires with perpetrators of child abuse to silence victims'"Until the 1980s, the right was seldom invoked and, in South Africa, probably not at all. Major reasons were cultural or societal taboos (many abusers are close family members), and ignorance.

"Since then, the boundaries of understanding of the psyche of survivors of child abuse have been pushed back by expert studies of the problem, and the true nature and extent of the effects of such abuse has been become better appreciated.

"As survivors have become more informed about their condition and rights, and have received support from public interest groups, there has been an upsurge in claims, many by adults who initiated proceedings years after the actual incidents.

"This, in turn, has given rise to a spate of cases, particularly in the United States, in which defendants have invoked limitations statutes," Judge Heher said.

"This is the first case of the kind in South Africa of which I am aware," he added.

He said society as a whole was, during the period prior to 1980, more conservative in matters involving sexual mores than it is now, and considerably less willing to confront sexual matters.

"Approaching the (case) as if it were akin to discovering cracks in a house foundation, does not demonstrate any great... sensitivity to the psychological and emotional problems suffered by a woman."

Michelle O'Sullivan, the director of the Woman's Legal Centre, which handled Van Zijl's case, said the case would affect how future cases of child sexual abuse would be handled by the courts.

"Other survivors will now be able to bring claims knowing that the law has developed an appreciation of the psychological obstacles that prevent adult survivors from bringing claims.

"The law no longer conspires with perpetrators of child abuse to silence victims by preventing survivors from claiming damages later in life, as it is now recognised that it is the abuse itself that often prevents a survivor from taking action. Abusers will not be able to rely on the Prescription Act to avoid such claims," she said.

* This article was originally published on page 6 of The Star on September 28, 2004

Dear Detective Clarke and Sgt. Dhillon
and
Former Devotees: James Danis, Barry Pittard, Robert Priddy and Tony
O'Clery

I want to thank Matt Clarke for taking my call this morning and to
share the
advice received from him.

As you all know, Canada has the distinction of having a tougher duty to
report law when it comes to child abuse and I have also recently
learned
there is no statute of limitations for prosecuting child sexual abuse
in
Canada no matter when it occurred.

That being the case, we still live in the real world of budget and
resource
limitations and according to Matt, if we really really want the
Minister of
Children and Family Development to take investigative action, we need
to be
able to furnish a list of specific names of British Columbia children
under
the age of 18 who are most vulnerable to being taken to India to see
Sathya
Sai Baba.

Some of them may already have been abused and of course, that would be
most
helpful to know as well.

After several discussions, I finally realized there is one person in
particular who would be most likely to be able to produce such a
list...namely Susan
Susan was a Bal Vikas teacher at the Vancouver Center for 25 years up
until
2001 and could strongly be presumed to have such a list. She would also
most
likely be able to tell or find out who are the current Bal Vikas
teachers at
the center.

Being in a position of care for children, emergency situations alone
would
dictate that she would have access to the names of all the children at
the
center and their parents address, telephone numbers etc...and possibly
even
a complete list of all the devotee members of the center.

Now the question is, what is the best approach to Susan?

It is my understanding that her current marriage partner may not
encourage
her to become involved in helping us, yet he and Susan did attend along
with
several other former devotees known to Mr. Danis a screening of the
"Secret
Swami" before it actually aired in Canada.

Perhaps a direct request from Matt might do the trick.

In any event, I am asking James to make Susan's phone number and
address
available to Matt and myself (I lost it when my computer database
crashed)
and I would appreciate hearing from any of you with your suggestions.

I do not want this opportunity to slip away and I agree with Matt that
we
need to furnish specific names to insure that our request to Minister
Hagen
and the other Ministers will not be ignored or side tracked.

Another possibility would involve the names, particularly of Sikh
children
under the age of 18 in the Delta Surrey areas of Greater Vancouver.
According to Tony, many of them already claim that SSB is a pedophile.
That
means their parents know and that their parents need to report what
they
know.

My rough draft to Minister Hagen is almost ready to send, but after
talking
to Matt this morning I will wait sending it until I hear from all of
you.

James has kindly volunteered to make the "Secret Swami" available to
Minister Hagen's office.

There is still another possibility on how to approach this, but that
would
involve Ottawa and I think we need to concentrate on British Columbia
first.

Thanks to all of you and Jai Expose'

Edited by author 02-22-2007 12:56 PM
Sanjay Kishore Dadlani
Middlesex University Student Residing In The UK

Sanjay Dadlani systematically attacked me regarding my involvement on Wikipedia (in relation to the Sathya Sai Baba articles) for many months. Not only did Sanjay attack me on the SSB2 Yahoo Group, he created a blog (named "wikimoreno") that specifically targeted me based soley on my involvement with Wikipedia.

I first became aware of the Wikipedia user "Ekantik" back in September 2006 when he secretly and deceptively attempted to get Freelanceresearch (Lisa DeWitt) banned from Wikipedia behind her back (Refs: See Green Segments: 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06). I immediately suspected an Anti-Sai Activist and informed Lisa about it.

On November 19th 2006, Sanjay created the user-name "Gaurasundara" (a name he uses, and has used, on numerous forums and blogs). He created this user-name to vote to keep Robert Priddy's user-page (Ref). Since Sanjay only made two edits (at that time) under the name "Gaurasundara", I didn't give him too much attention and soon forgot about him.

Not too long thereafter, Ekantik began editing the Sathya Sai Baba Wikipedia article and immediately began attempting to bully me by repeatedly accusing me of using Wikipedia as a "battleground", "soapbox", etc., and began flaunting Wikipedia policy in my face like he was some sort of Admin. Consequently, knowing Ekantik's past history with Lisa, I decided to research his edits (which anyone can do at any time because one's edits are public domain).

Based on Ekantik's edits, it became very clear that "Ekantik" was into Gaudiya Vaishnavism and I immediately suspected he was Sanjay. I noticed that he added AC BhaktiVedanta Prabhupada as a "Notable person of the 20th century" (Ref), added "motorhead" on the same article (Ref) and made an edit regarding Lemmy Kilmister (Ref). Since Sanjay devoted an entire blog to Motorhead and Lemmy Kilmister (named "WhoreHouse Blog") and is a Gaudiya Vaishnava (with a blog named Gaurasundara's Musings and is an editor on Gaudiya Kutir Wiki), this all but convinced me that "Ekantik" was Sanjay. I promptly emailed Lisa with my suspicions although I still had some doubts because "Ekantik" claimed he had a basic speaking command of Telugu, French, German and Italian (which Sanjay never publicly professed knowing before).

Then I discovered two edits that confirmed my suspicions. Sanjay changed his name from "Ekantik" to "Gaurasundara" on two separate occasions (Refs: See Green Sections: 01 - 02). I promptly confronted Sanjay with these edits and filed a sockpuppetry claim against him on Wikipedia. After filing my complaint, Sanjay immediately went into a frenzy and attempted to do damage control by changing his name on his "Gaurasundara's Musing" blog from "Gaurasundara das" (a name he has used since August 2005) to "Dark Knight".

After counting his losses, Sanjay reverted his name back to "Gaurasundara das" and admitted on Wikipedia that he was using the sockpuppet-name of "Gaurasundara" (Ref). Sanjay clearly attempted to pass himself off as two separate editors (he even greeted his "Gaurasundara" sockpuppet with his Ekantik account: Ref). How's that for deception?

Further sticking his foot in his mouth, Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Ekantik" aka "Gaurasundara") claimed, while incognito, that he was not a POV (point of view) editor (Refs: 01 - 02 - 03) and claimed that the primary reason he began participating on the Sathya Sai Baba article was based soley because of various Requests For Comment (Ref).

Of course, these are blatant lies. Sanjay has a wholly critical and negative POV about Sathya Sai Baba (unremittingly referring to him, even to this day, as a "homosexual paedophile" 01, "faggot guru child rapist" 02, "murderer" 03, among numerous other defamatory slurs and libels). Sanjay had been keeping watch over the Sathya Sai Baba Wikipedia Article for many months and often criticized me about my edits there. Sanjay attempted to portray himself as someone who was not involved in the Sai Controversy and engaged me in debate incognito. When I revealed Ekantik/Gaurasundara's name as "Sanjay Kishore Dadlani", he threw one of his typical flaming, shrieking and girly hissy-fits, frothing at the mouth and posting all sorts of warnings on my user-page. Boo hoo!

Keeping in tune with Sanjay's pornographic inclinations, he put the following quote about pornography on his userpage:

"Wikipedia is one of two good things on the internet. The other is porn." ~CaughtThinking (Ref)

Sanjay also has a userbox that states "This user rejects any violence towards women." Now read my article about What Sanjay Really Thinks Of Women and how he continually refers to women as "sluts" and "bitches". As a matter of fact, Sanjay made the following comments about women:

Fucking bitches, they owe me something. And every day that passes ain't helping their fucking case. Oh boy, am I getting madder and madder by the day. Oh boy, am I gonna burn them alive or what?

Fucking women, I decided today that I think all "hot" women fucking can go fuck themselves. Fucking snotty bitches, fucking little teasers, they can go die. Little bitches, brought up as sluts. fucking shitty females, my ass. They can go die.

Women as a whole are really starting to piss me off. Why don't they just go and fuck off? You either get "hot" women who prance about thinking that they're all that and how incredibly lucky you are to even be in their presence, or you get the ugly bitches whose tongues hang out for you all over the floor.

Usually I treat girls like the fucking sluts that they ARE.

Not only did Sanjay make these comments, he created a StreetBitches Blog where he stalked women and filmed them with his digicam under tables and up their dresses and which was aptly entitled "They Want It: Everywhere I Look, I See Bitches". Needless to say, another webmaster (a Gaudiya Vaishnava often praised by Sanjay) also caught Sanjay engaged in his deviant behavior on the StreetBitches Blog and wrote an email for me to forward to University officials to support my claims.

Sanjay believes that because I used the word "poo", I have some sort of "fascination for faecal material" and am a "toilet sex pervert". Well, Sanjay apparently suffers from the same "fascination for faecal material" and is a "toilet sex pervert" becuase he often uses the words "shit" and "bullshit". I discussed this in my blogged article entitled Sanjay's Disgusting Feces Obsession. Funny enough, Sanjay has a user-box on his user-page that states:

This person does not understand Bullshit (or understands it with considerable difficulties or does not wish to communicate in Bullshit).

As a matter of fact, the "bullshit" user-box was the first user-box that Sanjay included on his user-page (Ref). Sanjay, what is that again about people having "fascinations for faecal material" and being "toilet sex perverts" for simply using words that refer to feces?

And to top it all off, Sanjay openly professed being filled with bitterness and poison, having a serious drinking problem, being scared that he was becoming "unstable and psychotic" (Ref), having a Jesus-Sex-Fetish (01 - 02) and wondered about cutting his flesh with razors and thought it would be "quaintly romantic" to purchase a gun, put it in his mouth, lick the barrel with his tongue and blow his brains out (Ref).

It is nothing short of absurd to think that the one of the most vocal defamers of Sri Sathya Sai Baba is free of ulterior motives and is dedicated to neutrality on Wikipedia in relation to Sai Baba. Funny enough, that is exactly what Sanjay (aka "Ekantik" aka "Gaurasundara") wants others to believe.

I don't believe it or buy it for one second.

I wrote;Another possibility would involve the names, particularly of Sikh
children
under the age of 18 in the Delta Surrey areas of Greater Vancouver.
According to Tony, many of them already claim that SSB is a pedophile.
That
means their parents know and that their parents need to report what
they
know.

When I should have wrote.'in the sikh newspapers' according to Tony.

No matter what joe moreno says he is still off the board on wikipedia.

Edited by author 02-22-2007 06:32 PM
INDIA'S PRESIDENT IS IN ALL LIKLEHOOD A GAY PEDOPHILE LIKE HIS GURU.



India deserves a (more) dignified and responsible President

 
Sanal Edamaruku
President, Indian Rationalist Association and
Rationalist International


The poet-President & the “creator of the universe”

India’s President Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam has been the chief guest during the glamorous birthday show of controversial godman Sai Baba on 23rd November 2006. It is shameful and outrageous that the Indian President pays respect to a saffron charlatan, who exploits the gullible by claiming that he can produce ‘holy ash” from thin air, cure all illnesses, has created the universe and other nonsense more. It aggravates the case against President Kalam that he did not content himself with performing a kind of public relations routine, but went out of his way praising and glorifying the charlatan.

“I have immense love for Sai Baba”, Dr. Kalam said in his speech at Sai Baba’s headquarters in Puttaparthi . “I penned a poem in my mother tongue to greet Sai Baba on his birthday.” And he was not ashamed to read his poem (in a Telugu translation of the Tamil original) publicly to the cheering crowd of Sai Baba devotees. The rather embarrassing piece glorified Sai Baba as a glittering lighthouse and symbol of goodness. Because of Sai Baba’s presence, the President of India rejoiced, the earth was the most blessed planet in the solar system.

This is not only extremely silly and in bad taste. It is moreover irresponsible and undignified to a degree that is not compatible with the august office of the Indian President. President Kalam has misrepresented India and betrayed the trust of her people. India deserves a (more) dignified and responsible President.

 
India’s President Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam & Satya Sai Baba


The scientist-President & the exposed miracle man

It is deplorable that there are still many poor people in India, who are deprived of basic education and who don’t have any opportunity to develop scientific literacy. They are easy prey for frauds, fanning their fears and raising their hopes with “miracles” and promises of magical solutions for all problems. Miracle mongers and faith healers are inflicting a dangerous disease upon the weakest section of Indian society and have to be stopped by all means. It has to be one of the primary tasks of human development in India, to help the victims of superstition and blind belief to break the shackles of their archaic mindset and join the twenty first century.

Besides being the Indian President, Dr. Abdul Kalam is seen as one among the most prominent scientists of India and has raised great hopes for a better future, guided and protected by science. His concept “Vision 2020” promises to lead India smoothly into the orbit of the developed world. If a man of this stature and position uses his influence to come to the rescue a scandal-tainted godman, he commits a serious and unpardonable betrayal.

The children’s President & the alleged child abuser

In recent years, Sai Baba has hit international headlines as the center of another scandal. The aging godman stands accused of sexual abuse of minors among his devotees. Numerous cases of victims from India and abroad have come to light. Though Indian authorities seem still far away from opening a trial against the well-connected offender, too many victims and witnesses - mainly from Europe and USA - have broken their silence to further ignore his crimes. Some of their statements are recorded in articles that appeared in the London based The Daily Telegraph and in the film documentary "Seduced by Sai Baba", produced by the Danish State Television. In 2000, UNESCO washed its hands off Sai Baba by deciding neither to sponsor nor take part in a conference it had been planning to organize along with the Institute of Sathya Sai Education (ISSE, Thailand) and The Flinders University Institute of International Education (Australia), in Puttaparthi, India.

But all this seems not enough to stop President Dr. Abdul Kalam from publicly praising the fallen saffron star to the skies and lending him the shield of national honor to cover his shame. It is a shocking and somewhat macabre picture to see President Kalam, who loves to show himself in the company of children and cultivates an image of the great friend, promoter and protector of India’s youth, quite unperturbed and in such cordial relations with the man, who is held responsible for using his godly image to commit cruel and inhuman sexual abuse against hundreds of helpless minor devotees.

Philanthropy? A letter to the Indian President

Tainted and defeated, Sai Baba found a new avatar. One year back, on the occasion of his eightieth birthday, fans announced his transformation from miracle-man to philanthropist. Sai Baba's trust , which claims to be "the biggest NGO in the world after the United Nations", has allegedly spent millions of Dollars for drinking water, hospital and school projects around Puttaparthi (Andhra Pradesh) and in Bangalore (Karnataka). His down-to-earth development work is winning Sai Baba "even the hearts of non-believers", hoped his supporters.

In December 2005, I have written a letter to President Dr. Abdul Kalam, which was never answered. It demanded criminal investigations against Sai Baba. "If Sai Baba's social development projects are meant to be indulgence to nullify his crimes, this procedure is unprecedented and unacceptable", I wrote. "It is a shame for India that well-founded accusations and numerous reputed witnesses against Sai Baba are ignored without any investigation. Do saffron clothes make an offender untouchable for the law? Do we have to tolerate that political protectionism raises its head so boldly, mocking India's democracy?" I asked in my letter.

Spending a part of the great fortunes, swindled out of the gullible by pretending to have supernatural powers, for social development around his ancestral village doesn't make Sai Baba a great philanthropist. It is a well-known strategy of dacoits and gangsters, to build themselves a strong support base and a safe haven by winning the total loyalty of "their" villagers at home. Hasn't the cocaine mafia in Colombia done the same with their comparatively modest means? By the way, isn’t it a matchless irony that Sai Baba spends money, obtained by claiming the power to cure all illnesses, for super-specialty hospitals? Sai Baba himself, when he recently fell ill, preferred to be treated in one of his modern hospitals instead of relying on his own magic.

The people of India have a basic right to receive drinking water, appropriate medical care, education etc. It is the duty of any government to provide these essential goods. And it is an utter humiliation, if people are forced to receive their dues as alms from the hands of a "philanthropist" who expects them to bow theirs heads in front of him and praise his generosity. The situation becomes worse, if the government leaves the citizens in dependency of a "philanthropist", who is a criminal and a megalomaniac, and claims that he has supernatural powers and even created the universe. Sai Baba's birthday has become a day of national shame for India with a section of leading politicians, scientists and artists at the feet of a charlatan and alleged child abuser. If they express their devotion, because they are personally weak and gullible people, we have to ask ourselves why we don't elect confident, efficient, strong and intelligent politicians instead. If they do so because they want to celebrate the "benevolence" of a politically well-connected fraud and alleged criminal, they are deeply corrupt.

[Bulletin # 163]

You haven't got a fucking clue what you're talking about you nutjob, you see and talk to deaf people as if they were real that's too funny for life!

Edited by author 02-22-2007 09:52 PM
Premathma swaroopalara.Why are you all fighting over my homosexuality.The whole world knows that I am one. It is understandable that Joe, Lisa and Angel are fighting in support of me. They know that I am going to die.If I die, they can share the booty along with my politician devotees,relatives and others.You can see how Angel is working hard to do this.He even writes in My name.
I am not an accused .Lisa is right. Even if the whole world accusses me, I am not an accused .They have to prove it in an Indian Court.They cannot do it,because the Judges,the Police and the Politicians are with me. So i am
acquitted even before I am accused.So I am not an accused but a victim.I can see that you are all laughing.So what I am the VICTIM.
Now the Indian Govt. has allowed me to have sex with boys girls and Angels. The Indian Government,the President and Oppositions parties have acquiesced to ignore all the complaints against me. So according to my devotees, my political friends and other stupid friends I am a VICTIM NOT ACCUSED May they beget more and more male children.

What's with all this dumbo dumbo stuff? Don't you guys have something interesting to say? Every single post has dumbo in it.

Edited by author 02-22-2007 10:02 PM
omg~ Usedbybaba just said he is a homosexual! lol
/m2330

"Why are you all fighting over my homosexuality.The whole world knows that I am one."

Edited by author 03-08-2008 09:43 PM
/m2329

Hey Sanjay, I guess you haven't noticed you are stuck like a broken record and making up stories as usual. I never said I talked to dead people.

And why do you think anyone cares what a foul-mouthed mysogynistic, narcissistic nutjob and sex perv like you thinks?

Edited by author 02-24-2007 06:44 AM
/m2321

Yeah Tony, you believe a lot of nonsense that just isn't true. That's the big problem with your fairytale, "true believer" mentality.

Keep begging and like Icke, you may get your pants sued off of you and have to beg for money like he is having to do as a result of Warman's defamation lawsuit against him.

Edited by author 02-24-2007 06:41 AM
/m2324

How pathetic this sounds. More of Tony's fairytale "victims" whose parents supposedly may know but do not care whether their children have been molested!

You people really need your heads examined so you can
move into the 21st century and get a clue.

Why is it that you are just NOW looking into these issues if you claim to care so much about children being molested? Whatever happened to Barry Pittard and his big claims of "free world class legal resources"? How come nobody is taking you bozos up on your promise of
"free world class legal resources"? Did they find out like the Rahms that it is ONLY FREE if the accuser files charges in the jurisdiction where the government will prosecute or in a civil case where the lawyer takes their case on a contingency basis because he is sure he has enough evidence to win? The first consult with a private lawyer may be free but after that, unless the lawyer takes a case on contingency the client will pay the usually hourly fee plus court costs. Poor Brelsford probably paid all the fees for the Rahms and got stiffed.


Nobody, i.e. NO family who even remotely thinks their
child may have been molested would be so complacent
unless they were abusing the child themselves. This is
how one knows without doubt that Tony and Co. are
lying through their teeth.

From what I understand Baba does NOT see children ALONE in interviews until they are 18 or over. This would explain why all the complainants are FOREIGNERS over 18. This is also how I know the anti-Sais, Geyerhahn and Neptune are lying through their teeth.

Apparently ignorant anti-Sais do not understand it is common for Indian families to send their children to live with gurus at a fairly early age and also common for boys to sleep in the same room with their guru. Part of the reason for this tradition was most likely safety from dacoits and wild animals as many Far Easterners still do live in areas where there are wild animals. I do believe Yogananda talked about this in his autobiography. Only a culturally ignorant, dirty-minded or racist person with an agenda would make something of this extended family relationship which is a cultural tradition. Why is it that anti-Sais who claim to have been devotees for decades do not understand the tradition of the guru-devotee relationship in India?

/m2332

So usedcrybaby is an atheist and homosexual. That would explain his homosexual fixation on Sai Baba.

I think Koovor may also have been a closet homosexual as I stumbled onto something mentioning him on google about gay history while searching his name. Koovor started out as a Christian as his father was a preacher and then went 180 degrees in the opposite direction. Probably after his Christian family found out he was gay and disowned him.

Edited by author 02-28-2008 04:15 AM
/m2328

Gee does anyone else smell the whiff of fascism coming from Tony's rotten breath? What did I say about how the anti-Sais will jump into any dumpster they can?

Guess who it looks like is funding the atheists (such as Premanand, Edamaruku and most likely Kovoor when he was alive) in India? Paul Kurtz, the founder of CSICOP (Unamazing Randi and Co.). Paul Kurtz I do believe was also involved in Esalen CIA LSD and/or ESP experiments along with Hal Putoff.

"In November 1962, Esalen sponsored a seminar boldly titled ``Drug-Induced Mysticism,'' delivered by {{Dr. Paul
Kurtz}} and {{Myron Stolaroff.}} The two admitted LSD users had created an MK-Ultra front called the International Foundation for
Advanced Studies to conduct their LSD experiments, and Kurtz was a leader of the Theosophist Society for Psychical Research."

The Amazing Randi has been accused of being a pedophile and CSICOP has been accused of being a front for pedophiles.

    
"The infamous "blackmail tape" which James ("The Amusing") Randi has
fought so hard to suppress, has been brought up again in print, in a
very complicated context. In the February 11th column by one Michele
Landsberg, the prestigious Toronto (Canada) Star states: "The colorful
Randi has been involved in a number of lawsuits. Part of the evidence
brought against Randi was a tape of his telephone conversations, of
explicit sexual content, with teenaged boys. Randi has at different
times claimed that the tape was a hoax made by his enemies to blackmail
him, that he made the tape himself, and that the police asked him to
make it..."

Randi has threatened to sue the Toronto Star..."


"The Northridge Center for Sex Research founder, Vern Bullough, a self-confessed pedophile and editor of the "academic" Journal of Paedophilia, is in the sexology mainstream seeking to legalize adult sex with infants and children."

Bullough's photo is on the very same page Tony posted with the rationalist article on Kalam and Sai Baba.


"Bullough, former co-chairman of IHEU, died on Wednesday 21st June. His death was announced by Paul Kurtz, founder and chairman of the Center for Inquiry and Council for Secular Humanism."

Strangely, Bullough and another accused pedophile named Dr. Ralph Underwager (founder of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation), both died not long after allegations regarding their alleged pedophilia became public.

"Perhaps the most disturbing charges heard by the committee were provided by Dr. Reisman, who documented that the "founder" of the "Center for Sex Research," Dr. Vern Bullough, was a self-admitted pedophile as an editor of the very academic Journal of Pedophilia. Dr. Reisman, whose research spans 30 years, was also able to point out to the California legislators a score of other pedophiles and pedophile advocates on the porno conference "faculty." Their pedophilia is something these otherwise respectable gentlemen do not boast of in public. In fact, Dr. Reisman presented an original copy of the Journal of Pedophilia in which Ungerwager, speaking on the California State University-sponsored child pornography panel, declared:


Pedophiles can boldly and courageously affirm what they choose. They can say that what they want is to find the best way to love ... an acceptable expression of God's will for love and unity among human beings. It may take people being arrested. Revolutionaries have always risked arrest."

So what if Baba is a Homo sexual.There are many Homosexuals in this world and Baba has taken up their cause.Its not wrong.

Edited by author 02-23-2007 07:02 AM
/m2338

You can grow up anytime usedcrybaby. Falsifying other peoples names and statements is called fraud.

----sb's credo-'Pedophiles can boldly and courageously affirm what they choose. They can say that what they want is to find the best way to love ... an acceptable expression of God's will for love and unity among human beings."

There is nothing intrinsically wrong with being a homosexual, it is a natural occurrence in the whole animal world,due to sex switches in reincarnation. Their practises are somewhat unusual but gay pedophilia is another thing altogether, and something that sb practises.

I challenge sb and sai org to sue me.

sb is a gay molestor, murderer, embezzler, fraud, liar and cheat. His trust are stealing money hand over fist, and that is why they are always starting new projects.

sue me!!pleeeaaase.

Just for the record, the "Joe Moreno" who commented on this board is not me. It is the psychologically unstable defamer "usedbybaba", who hides behind numerous fake names (50+ and counting). These are the weirdos, clowns, and Anti-Sai Nutters who are trying to "expose" Sathya Sai Baba. It's about time everyone see their lamentable behavior and what type of individuals are behind the Anti-Sai Movement.

It's about time :-)

• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed




• Anthony "Tony" O'Clery Exposed




• Barry Pittard Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

Suck my wang, Joe!

It's about time Joe kept his regular 3 o'clock weekly appointment with me for his light refreshment. Oh how I love a bit of gay sex just before I go out for afternoon darshan and annoy people by not walking their way. The fools don't know that I'm busy fucking Joe in his hot little asshole and riding him like a bastard screaming for more. And then I blow my load of hot cum down his throat and Joe says YUM YUM

Edited by author 02-28-2008 04:18 AM
/m2340

With all the perverted and pathetic lies you tell that sounds more like your credo Tony. And you are the ones posting websites with people on them who had apparently ADMITTED they were pedophiles! Not to mention you constantly defend your own and others in your groups sexually perverse language AND abusive behavior. See /m2345 (post by one of your partners in crime) and tell me you don't agree with me about WHO the perverts are.


"The Northridge Center for Sex Research founder, Vern Bullough, a self-confessed pedophile and editor of the "academic" Journal of Paedophilia, is in the sexology mainstream seeking to legalize adult sex with infants and children."

If the above is any indication of what is to come for your group in the future you had better be scared Tony. By listening to you and knowing what I know about backgrounds of people in your group I think you are skating on VERY thin ice.

Get real Tony, the writing is CLEARLY on the wall as to who the perverts are. You are not fooling anyone but yourselves! Look at you slobs and the lies and disgusting language you use on this board. You are all a bunch of perverted weirdos!

Too funny, now Tony the shape-shifting flip-flopper is defending usedcrybaby's homosexuality (/m2340) whereas before he was calling gay men "fudgepackers". Tony changes his story more than a con man caught by the police.

Edited by author 02-28-2008 06:52 AM
/m2342

This is too too funny! Robert Priddy, who is trying to pretend he is some psychologist, sounds more like a confused mental patient. Talk about "true believer syndrome"! Priddy and O'Clery are as bad as Icke and his shape-shifting reptilian nonsense.

First of all, how does Priddy know Zimmermann is being "frank and honest"? Does Priddy consider himself a human lie detector? Nothing Zimmermann says sounds credible to a person who is sober. And even Priddy admits Zimmermann contradicts himself!

And please do have Priddy explain why a few people are claiming they actually touched a vagina yet Priddy claims Baba is not a hermaphrodite. Zimmermann claimed he interacted with BOTH a vagina and then a penis (unless you believe in Zimmermann's claim of supernaturally morphing genitalia phenomena...so which is it Priddles)? I wish you people could see for once how idiotic and INSANELY inconsistent you are!

Do you think Priddles can prove his claims regarding men being able to hide their penises? What a bunch of Priddish NONSENSE! Why would an alleged obsessive sex perv want to hide his penis when you are claiming he is doing this to become aroused?

Please do make up your minds! Hypnotism. Morphing genitalia. Hidden penises. Vibhuti pellet machines (that's a new one). Psychoactive drugs. Where is the SUBSTANTIAL proof, Priddy? Anyone could come up with these silly stories after reading Tal Brooke's book which has been out for THIRTY YEARS. We are tired of your very irresponsible accusations, manipulative secrecy and deceptive baiting tactics. You may be very good at manipulating dummies who believe any story they hear but intelligent people do not buy your pseudo-intellectual slop.

It sounds to me like the person using psychoactive drugs is Robert Priddy himself! And Priddy has already admitted his long-term involvement with them. Perhaps he is having flashbacks! Why is Priddy automatically blaming Sai Baba for the drugging of others when all the KNOWN drug abusers, including Priddy himself, are in Priddy's camp and it is Zimmermann who is involved in a group (Ramtha School of Enlightenment) that is known for using red wine (of all things) to try to expand consciousness? Maybe Zimmermann popped some LSD before his interview with Baba. After all, we do know Ram Dass talked about carrying LSD with him when he went to see his guru, Neem Karoli Baba. How many thousands of people have read Ram Dass's books and followed his example? We KNOW Tal Brooke did. What do you want to bet Priddy did too since he wrote about his experiences with LSD then scrubbed those pages after I started bringing up his history of drug usage?


It is important to note that LSD was made illegal in the U.S. in 1968 (banned in California in 1966) so Ram Dass was carrying illegal drugs after that. Part of the reason I am bringing this up is because Ram Dass was and still is considered a "guru" by many yet you do not see ANY of these anti-guruites attacking Ram Dass who was a known druggie (some literature has even claimed Ram Dass was a black market dealer and mind control expert for the CIA)! Why? Because he is a "white guy"? In a recent magazine article, Ram Dass even admitted during that time he was frequenting gay movie houses (where watching sex movies and masturbating in public were the norm). It is also well-documented that the CIA was dosing people with LSD without their knowledge in the fifties and sixties and was even sued as the result of the death of one of their scientists who was unknowingly given LSD and subsequently jumped out of a hotel window. Robert Priddy's mother also worked at a psychiatric hospital in the UK where LSD was used experimentally on psychiatric patients. Are we starting to see a pattern here?


When I First Came to India
"In 1967 when I first came to India, I brought with me a supply of LSD, hoping to find someone who might understand more about these substances than we did in the West. When I had met Maharajji (Neem Karoli Baba), after some days the thought had crossed my mind that he would be a perfect person to ask. The next day after having that thought, I was called to him and he asked me immediately, "Do you have a question?"Of course, being before him was such a powerful experience that I had completely forgotten the question I had had in my mind the night before. So I looked stupid and said, "No, Maharajji, I have no question."He appeared irritated and said, "Where is the medicine?"


I was confused but Bhagavan Dass suggested, " Maybe he means the LSD." I asked and Maharajji nodded. The bottle of LSD was in the car and I was sent to fetch it.

When I returned I emptied the vial of pills into my hand. In addition to the LSD there were a number of other pills for this and that--diarrhea, fever, a sleeping pill, and so forth. He asked about each of these.

He asked if they gave powers. I didn't understand at the time and thought that by "powers" perhaps he meant physical strength. I said, "No." Later, of course, I came to understand that the word he had used, "siddhis," means psychic powers. Then he held out his hand for the LSD. I put one pill on his palm. Each of these pills was about three hundred micrograms of very pure LSD--a solid dose for an adult. He beckoned for more, so I put a second pill in his hand--six hundred micrograms. Again he beckoned and I added yet another, making the total dosage nine hundred micrograms--certainly not a dose for beginners. Then he threw all the pills into his mouth. My reaction was one of shock mixed with fascination of a social scientist eager to see what would happen.

He allowed me to stay for an hour-- and nothing happened. Nothing whatsoever.

He just laughed at me.

The whole thing had happened very fast and unexpectedly. When I returned to the United States in 1968 I told many people about this acid feat. But there had remained in me a gnawing doubt that perhaps he had been putting me on and had thrown the pills over his shoulder or palmed them, because I hadn't actually seen them go into his mouth.

Three years later, when I was back in India, he asked me one day, "Did you give me medicine when you were in India last time?"

"Yes."

"Did I take it?" he asked. ( Ah, there was my doubt made manifest!)

"I think you did."

"What happened?

"Nothing."

"Oh! Jao!" and he sent me off for the evening.

The next morning I was called over to the porch in front of his room, where he sat in the mornings on a tucket. He asked, "Have you got any more of that medicine?"

It just so happened that I was carrying a small supply of LSD for "just in case," and this was obviously it. "Yes."

"Get it," he said.

So I did. In the bottle were five pills of three hundredmicrograms each. One of the pills was broken. I placed them on my palm and held them out to him. He took the four unbroken pills. Then, one by one, very obviously and very deliberately, he placed each one in his mouth and swallowed it-- another unspoken thought of mine now answered.

As soon as he had swallowed the last one, he asked, "Can I take water?"

"Yes."

"Hot or cold?"

"It doesn't matter."

He started yelling for water and drank a cup when it was brought.

Then he asked," How long will it take to act?"

"Anywhere from twenty minutes to an hour."

He called for an older man, a long -time devotee who had a watch, and Maharajji held the man's wrist, often pulling it up to him to peer at the watch.

Then he asked," Will it make me crazy?"

That seemed so bizarre to me that I could only go along with what seemed to be a gag.

So I said, "Probably."

And then we waited. After some time he pulled the blanket over his face, and when he came out after a moment his eyes were rolling and his mouth was ajar and he looked totally mad. I got upset. What was happening? Had I misjudged his powers? After all, he was an old man (though how old I had no idea), and I had let him take twelve hundred micrograms. Maybe last time he had thrown them away and then he read my mind and was trying to prove to me he could do it, not realizing how strong the "medicine" really was. Guilt and anxiety poured through me. But when I looked at him again he was perfectly normal and looking at the watch.

At the end of an hour it was obvious nothing had happened. His reactions had been a total put-on. And then he asked, "Have you got anything stronger?" I didn't. Then he said, "These medicines were used in Kulu Valley long ago. But yogis have lost that knowledge. They were used with fasting. Nobody knows now. To take them with no effect, your mind must be firmly fixed on God. Others would be afraid to take. Many saints would not take this." And he left it at that.

When I asked him if I should take LSD again, he said, "It should not be taken in a hot climate. If you are in a place that is cool and peaceful, and you are alone and your mind is turned toward God, then you may take the yogi medicine."--Ram Dass

 

Where are all the "skeptics" and "rationalists" when we need them? How convenient that they are missing in action on this one.


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

You see and talk to dead people, maybe you were drinking? Yes you were

Edited by author 02-24-2007 01:32 AM
/m2348

Desperate aren't you? Sanjay the broken record. Why are you wackos such sadists and time wasters? Oh yeah, I forgot you are a 28 yo who lives at home with your mommy. You probably do not even know how to cook or do laundry. No wonder you are such a whiner when you do not get your way.

Sorry Sanjay, unlike YOU, the admitted drunkard, I haven't had any alcohol! Nor do I do drugs, unlike you Sanjay who admitted buying marijuana on the street from what you called a "f"ing *igger! Go away Sanjay. You are an embarrassment to all humans, especially Sri Lankans.

Read my lips, dumbo: I never said I talk to dead people. That was Tony, remember retard or do you need a map? Why don't you go argue with your other personality if you need a babysitter?

Edited by author 02-24-2007 03:56 PM
Re: /m2345 and /m2344

Sathya Sai Baba: 2345:
02-23-2007 07:03 PM ET (US)
It's about time Joe kept his regular 3 o'clock weekly appointment with me for his light refreshment. Oh how I love a bit of gay sex just before I go out for afternoon darshan and annoy people by not walking their way. The fools don't know that I'm busy fucking Joe in his hot little asshole and riding him like a bastard screaming for more. And then I blow my load of hot cum down his throat and Joe says YUM YUM

Swami says: 2344:
02-23-2007 01:22 PM ET (US)
Suck my wang, Joe!

I have not heard anyone use the term "wang" before so I decided to research it. It should come as no surprise that Sanjay Kishore Dadlani (the fully exposed pervert) happened to use the exact term "wang" on the SSB2 discussion board: Ref: Reference. Sanjay also happened to use the exact same term "Yum Yum" on his killuminati blog, just like user above did (Ref). It's all screen-capped too ;-)

Have you no shame Sanjay? This is not surprising considering Sanjay's self-professed homo-eroticism and gender confusion.

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this is fun

Tony, God has all the right to do anything. He is above the law
 so I say God has every right to even rape.Stop meddling with BABA

The last post (/m2354) was not made by me. It was made by the psychologically unstable whacko, "Usedbybaba".

My name is James not Sanjay you stupid cunt, are you blind as well as drunk? So which dead guy did you talk to today?

Edited by author 02-26-2007 09:57 PM
/m2356

You sound like a broken record.

Poor Sanjay Dadlani the misogynist, showing his true colors at every turn.
Doesn't matter which name he hides behind, his foul mouth follows him where ever he goes.

My my, what a temper. And he's obsessed with dead people to boot. In between his vile ramblings he keeps mumbling about them like a drunkard.