Contrary to your ludicrous assertions, my comments here are entirely applicable to Sathya Sai Baba and the controversy surrounding him. Exposing Anti-Sai Activists for their lies, deceit and dishonesty is relevant to Sathya Sai Baba. You, as a fully exposed pervert and pathological liar, want to dominate the discussion and divert attention away from Anti-Sai Activists. Tough luck.

- Information Page About Sathya Sai Baba

- Sanjay Dadlani Exposed
- Exposing "Sai Baba Exposed"

Edited by author 09-14-2006 03:25 PM
For those of you who have been reading this thread and the comments made by "abusedfor15years / usedbybaba", perhaps you are not familiar with his recent comment made on the sathyasaibaba2 yahoo group?

"abusedfor15years / usedbybaba" said:

"who is premanand? by the way watch your language u fu***king third rate ar88hole. you must have slept with all the guys and maybe forgot who among these is premanand. u must have molested your brother or father and blamed them for this Don't try to tell me i am a pervert Maybe you got fu''d by BaBA. I can write worse than this and i am capable of doing more, u shit pot.Nothing except shit comes out of your mouth. Maybe you eat through your bottom. You can"t keep calling me names and expect me to take it lying. You bi''**h Who the fuck are you to forgive me you lingam sucking swine. tell me where you are or when you come to india i will pesonally meet you if you have the guts.bitch.Did ur boy friend fu**k u in thr mouth. If i come to know who you are belive me i will get you. I remember people for life and don't take me for granted. BAS****D" (Reference).

What do you want to bet that Sanjay will defend "abusedfor15years / usedbybaba" and his deeply disturbing, disgusting and sexually perverse comments?

As I have said before, Anti-Sai Activists are moral degenerates, liars, deceivers and much worse. Given enough time, they expose themselves and it is always NOT a pretty sight.

Edited by author 09-14-2006 09:57 PM
Re /m241:

Moreno, once and for all, get into your thick head: Discussion here is on Sathya Sai Baba. Your ludicrous assertion that discussion of this topic is a "diversion" is in itself utterly hilarious. Aside from the fact that you have several boards of your ownin which to carry out your obsessional hate crusade, the real situation is that you are the one distracting attention away from the fact that you cannot defend Sathya Sai Baba for all of the allegations that he faces, not that you were ever qualified or authorised to do so in the first place. You have a compulsive need to insert your nose into places where it doesn't belong. Imagine that! You have nothing to say in defence of Sathya Sai Baba. The recent discussion about birthdates is proof of that; you ran away and came back with more ad-hominem arguments which are your stock-in-trade.

Get that into your thick skull. You drone on and on in Wikipedia about how people should stay on-topic, yet you do not do so yourself. You are an extraordinary hypocrite who has been proven as a pervert and a pathological liar, and I have proved it.

You want my opinion on Abusedfor15years? I want your opinion on Simon Brace and Lisa De Witt, two of the biggest degenerates to ever set foot in a Sai Baba forum. Tough luck, because I have seen your hypocrisy on your website. You openly associate with them and embrace them, homosexuals and drunken drug-addicts that they are. I have no more interest in a pervert like you. Keep on trying to catch my interest, a pathetic pervert like you will not succeed. :-)

Look at Sai Baba EXPOSED whine, snivel and throw his typical girly hissy fits because I am not behaving and speaking as he thinks I should! lol

Far be it for "Sai Baba EXPOSED" (aka Sanjay Kishore Dadlani) to point his pudgy fingers (with pictures of Sanjay) and call others "homosexuals", "drunks", "drug-addicts" and "perverts" when the only person who has been fully exposed for these things is Sanjay himself. Even with self-admissions! The fact that Sanjay points out these things when he suffers from them himself strongly suggest he has some sort of deeply rooted psychological problems. He even contemplated the idea of slicing his flesh with razors and blowing his brains out with a gun after licking the barrel with his tongue! One word: Sicko.

Need Proof?

Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is a pervert: References: 01 - 02 - 03

Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") has homoerotic feelings for other men:
References: 01 - 02

Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is a drunk with a serious drinking problem:
Reference: 01

Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is racist against black people and purchased illegal drugs:
Reference: 01

Calling me a pervert is a very decent comment and i have to appreciate those who called me that. tell her to go find a chicken. Did i write about anyone else like that.or did i abuse any of you including lisa the sick one. My god i am fuming.If i call you a word connecting you and your parents how will you react.
I have been affected by baba in the same perverted way that she is calling me. i am the victim ( (u will not believe but for me it is real)and u touch a raw nerve i will explode. Again, i don't want to ask u to answermy questions,for, i know that in your heart of hearts u know that i am speaking the truth.even thaough u will deny it. I also did the same for a long time. but i did not abuse people who were anti sai.i thought that if he was god these people were his children. that was my faith then. maybe some of you are not confident of your baba that he can defend himself. or is it because you know that you are are fighting for a losing cause.




     
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Edited by author 09-15-2006 11:58 AM
"abusedfor15years", you are a pervert. Your former comments (/m242) prove that abundantly.

I also have a question for you. Did you formerly use the name "ex-sai student"?

Edited by author 09-16-2006 06:33 AM
For the record, usedfor15years aka usedbybaba was the FIRST person to make lewd comments insinuating others were perverts because they don't believe his garbage and now the abusive phony is playing the victim.

Here is the proof:

usedbybaba wrote:

"sob sob sob sob sob.If you like the taste of
linga how can you object to some one "molesting "
you. Go and taste baba's linga . or rathnakar
maybe.it is free .They told me he is divorced.Is
it true? if it is true you can get married to
him. try him he is only in his thirties unlike
BaBa the Avatar who broke his leg who is in his
seventies uh eighties oh no nineties. umm i dont
know .maybe he will adjust it when he knows he is
going to die to suit the stories that he told.

by the way baba keeps telling the boys sbout the
third leg. we know of Siva's third eye what is
the third leg.ofcourse it is cock u dummy."

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/sathyasaibaba2/message/52399


Not only that but usedbybaba has been making threats and extremely lewd comments (as you can see) not fit to print.

As usual, it's not hard to tell who the REAL pervert is.

Do you people know how some devotees manage to make flashes of ashes appear on the picture frames of SSB? I want to hear your close experiences. Has any of you try investigate? Even if it failed I want to know how did it go.

Here is an account from http://www.exbaba.com/

how did they do it? Vertically in the top of the frame around the picture is a nail that sticks out by accident. In the board there is an impression of that nail, something that can only happen when you bring the picture in a horizontal position. This picture is the only one that is attached to the board by a kind of primitive hinge, consisting of two nails and iron wire wound around them. All other pictures just lean against the board. If you look carefully, it is clear that the hinge is used often.

Every Sunday afternoon, according to an informant, the picture is lifted from below and smeared with a kind of slush of water and ash. Of course, nobody may then enter the room. One day later the ash has dried, and the manager lets down the picture again, carefully. Because the ash comes off easily from the glass, the hinge has an important function: motions and vibrations are minimized during the process of letting the picture down. We tried the trick at home with ash from Baba. It works to perfection.

Edited by author 09-25-2006 03:31 AM
I don't know if Beast master thinks he is Sherlock Holmes or what but there are many many accredited scientists and journalists who have actually investigated Sai Baba (unlike Beast Master the anonymous armchair internet critic).
The award-winning journalist, Rod Serling did a documentary about Sai Baba in the early 1970s titled, Sathya Sai Baba: Man of Miracles. Even Mick Brown (who was raised a Catholic, as were most of the anti-Sais causing problems, and may have been acting on behalf of the Catholic church when he did the Alaya Rahm 2000 hit piece on Sai Baba) said in a 2004 radio interview that he does not believe the vibhuti materialzations are a hoax.


"Yes, well Sai Baba is I think an extraordinary phenomenon and a very perplexing phenomenon. Of course he's probably the best-known of all the living Indian swamis or teachers, and has a global following, running into, it's estimated, many, many millions. I'd heard a lot about Sai Baba over the years, but then as I became exposed to more and more of these stories and began to hear more and more about him, my path eventually led me to a house in North London, where I witnessed something rather remarkable, and one of the things that Sai Baba is said to do, as an avatar, as an incarnation of the Divine, as it's claimed of him, he's said to be able to perform many, many miracles, perhaps the least of which is to produce vibhuti, which is this holy dust, for want of a better word. And there are many accounts of him producing this from his fingers, but also of it manifesting quite spontaneously on photographs of Sai Baba in the homes of devotees. And I'd heard about this, but I hadn't actually seen it myself until I went to a house in North London.
It was an Indian gentleman who actually worked as a taxi driver, and he'd wanted to build an extension to his home in order to house this snooker table, billiard table, and so he'd gone ahead and built the extension, and had then invited some Hindu priests to bless the broken ground, and they happened to be devotees of Sai Baba, and they left in the home a picture of Sai Baba. Shortly after that, vibhuti began to spontaneously manifest on the picture, and he was rather disconcerted by this, and called them back and asked exactly what was going on, and they said, 'Well this is a blessing, this means that Baba is present in the house, and you're not to disturb anything, you're not to touch anything. And was told you can't put your snooker table in, this is now consecrated ground, as it were, and you must keep this as a shrine to Baba.
And so he had added to this picture with many other pictures, and also with little Buddha statuettes and images of the Christ and symbols of Islam, all of which appeared to be manifesting this extraordinary scented dust, vibhuti. And devotees would come to his house and would pray and have small services and then they'd scrape off the vibhuti from the pictures and give to devotees and they'd take it away with them by way of a blessing...But what I do believe is that it wasn't a hoax. So I do believe that that is the case, and I think in a way this goes to the heart of the ambivalence of Sai Baba, because he's a very perplexing and very confusing character to me..."--Mick Brown, ABC Interview-6/27/2004

Edited by author 09-25-2006 11:45 AM
Re /m248:

Exactly. Anyone can try this out for himself and see how easy it is to replicate Sai Baba's "miracles". For example. Exbaba.Com contains several clips from the 'SEDUCED' movie where the reporter/interviewer shows the camera exactly how vibhuti pellets can be concealed between fingers, pretend to "materialise" them, squish the pellets ito ground ash and give it to the "lucky" recipient.

I see that Lisa De Witt is Still touting Rod Serling's movie as an example of investigated miracles. Ha ha ha ha ha. This movie is from the 1970s and is a devotional movie, so it's not like it's without bias! :-) Try looking at recent movies which do not close up too much on Sai Baba's ugly mug and show his hands instead, then we can see exactly what he is up to.

Speaking of which, my very recent meeting with a high-ranking former devotee enabled me to acquire a copy of the very famous 'Aura of Divinity' movie (Parts 1 and 2) filmed and presented by the famous devotee duo Richard and Janet Bock. The film was released around 1980 and is very well known. I actually had my own copy of this movie from my devotee days but I seem to have misplaced it so it was good to get it again.

This is a devotional movie, and just by briefly watching it I already spotted three instances of Sai Baba cheating with vibhuti materialisations! This, from a movie by Richard Bock of all people! The first and third ones are unclear or out of camera range, but the second instance is a full and clear-cut observation of cheating. So tough luck, nobody can question a staple devotee movie that has been around since at least 1980 and filmed by FAMOUS devotees. Janet Bock is now known as Janet Bicker.

The anti-Sais have ZERO proof that the videos show Sai Baba cheating. I have looked at those videos on a 19in tv and do not see the alleged fraud they are claiming. We have already covered how Erlendur Haraldsson has already had experts examine the Doordarshan video the anti-Sais claim show cheating and the UNBIASED experts say it shows NO proof of fraud. Yet, the anti-Sais continue to lie and claim they see fraud when there is NO such proof. These are the paranoid clowns who cry brainwashing at every turn yet are attempting to brainwash everyone with their idiocy. If they actually had PROOF they could easily take it to court and file a claim. The anti-Sai pathological liars think everyone is as dumb and as gullible as they are.

Sanjay Dadlani obviously has NOT seen the Man of Miracles video nor does he know anything about it. And so typical of his know-it-all attitude to claim to be the great expert regarding that which he knows nothing about. It was NOT a "devotional" video. It was one of SEVERAL investigative documentary videos in a MYSTERY SERIES and shows VERY good footage of the BOTH the Shivarathri vibhuti and amrit miracles. Rod Serling was an award-winning journalist who investigated VERY carefully anything that he wrote or filmed about. Dadlani, another armchair critic, wasn't even alive then as he was not born until the late seventies and has a history of blatantly lying about his past experiences with the aghori Vimalananda, etc so anything he claims must be taken with a grain of salt unless documented in some concrete manner.

It has also been a consistent pattern of the anti-Sais to smear dead people because they obviously think dead people are easy targets.


It is typical of Dadlani to make true believer-like statements and judgements regarding things he knows absolutely NOTHING about. Apparently, Dadlani also thinks he is a mind-reader as he is always claiming to know what others are thinking but he is wrong most, if not all of the time. Why just yesterday he was claiming I had made a psychic prediction when I had done nothing of the sort.
In short, Dadlani is a fabricator who lives to fabricate stories.

Very good, now how about actually addressing my points? :-)

Rod Serling or no Rod Serling, there are plenty of miracle videos abounding in the Sai Organisation, the most famous of which were filmed by the late Richard Bock and his wife Janet (now Janet Bicker). Where did I make fun of dead people?

Fact remains, I recently acquired a copy of Bock's arguably most famous movie (Aura of Divinity) and there are at least three suspicious incidents involving sleight-of-hand materialisations of vibhuti. The first and third are out of camera range, whereas the second is performed in full view of the camera. In a devotional movie too, so tough luck. Bock presented his movie as an "investigation" too, so I'm not interested in technical definitions of devotional movies. Ditto for Rod Serling, his movie was positive (biased).

Nobody cares what Lisa De Witt thinks. The movie clips are freeely available on the Net for anyone to see and judge with their own brains whether there is suspicious dealings or not. And by te way, Erlendur Haralddson did not comment on any of the movies except for the famed 'Gurubusters' clip, which incidentally was the first clip that brought Sai Baba's fraudulent miracles to light. :-)

The tide is turning. Sai Baba and his lies will be washed away. :-)

Oh yes, let's not forget my own movie. I bought a "live darshan" video from the Ashram's own video shop in 1997, a three-hour video filled with "live darshan" footage. Incidentally this is the video that documents the occasion where Sai Baba blessed my picture, stood right in front of me for about 2 minutes, held my hand and blessed me on the head, so I am in it. :-)

Trouble is, there are two occasions in that video (that I've discovered so far anyway) where Sai Baba is caught cheating on "materialising" vibhuti. In the first instance, his arms are out of camera range due to excessive zooming on his ugly face, whereas in the second instance the whole thing is laid out for the viewer to see. :-)

You can bet your ass that Exbaba.Com will get those two clips at the earliest opportunity, and more if I can find any. :-) This is an ashram video that was sold just 1 or 2 days after it was made and which I purchased form the ashram's own video shop. 3 hours of unedited darshan footage, so no claims of editing or whatever. Tough luck. Sai Baba will be washed away. :-)

Despite all these rampant claims that Sathya Sai Baba has been caught "faking" materializations on video, no one has even attempted to have these alleged incidents of fraud verified by any reputable company specializing in fraud. Having a reputable company document incidents of fraud would greatly advance the Anti-Sai agenda. Needless to say, despite claiming there is proof that Sathya Sai Baba is faking materializations, no one has done anything about it!

This reminds me of the numerous claims (even made in Indian newspapers and on the Gurubusters Film) that Sathya Sai Baba clearly faked a necklace materialization caught on film. Despite the alleged clarity of the fraud, Anti-Sai Activists could not agree what actually transpired. Some argued that Baba took the necklace from under the award and others claimed that a devotee gave Baba the necklace in his hand.

Erlendur Haraldsson (in his book "Miracles are my visiting cards - An investigative inquiry on Sathya Sai Baba, an Indian mystic with the gift of foresight believed to perform modern miracles") stated that he and his associates carried out a careful analysis of the video shown in Guru Busters film (that Anti-Sai Activist love to boast "proves" that Baba fakes materializations). Haraldsson stated the following about the video:

"The quality and resolution of the tape leaves much to be desired and limits the inferences that can be drawn from it. Dr. Wiseman took the videotape to a company which specialises in investigating corporate fraud. This company posesses some of the world's best equipment designed to enhance poor quality videotape. The technician kindly offered to enhance the videotape in question. The videotape was run thorugh a real time Snell & Wilcox Kudos Noise Reducer. The machine carries out three operations. First, it removes via recursive filters the random noise on the tape caused by repeated copying. Second, it imporves the graininess of the video by median filters and finally enhances any edges on the the video through edge enhancement filters. After all this the video is certainly easier to watch, and did not contain much of the random noise present on the copy provided by the Deccan Chronicle. However, the resulting tape still did not reveal further information about the incident. In short, the reason for Sai Baba's hand movements still appears unclear and is open for various interpretations, but the tape contained no firm evidence of fraud. The company also analysed several still frames taken from the video. These were scanned into a computer and run through an Improve image processing system (developed by the Home Office in Britain). Again, the images were enhanced via median filters and certain areas of the frames were enlarged. The resulting photographs show the crucial moment as Sai Baba's hands touch under the memento, but do not reveal any further information."

Therefore, despite the rants and ravings by Anti-Sai Activists, they simply cannot argue with the results of the analysis. The allegation of fraud is completely unsubstantiated and no one has even attempted to get these alleged "fake materializations" documented by any reputable company specializing in fraud. Period. End of discussion.

Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba

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