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Topic: Sathya Sai Baba 2005: Who Is He?
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Tony O'Clery  2552
03-11-2007 12:39 PM ET (US)
Namaste,

Howard admitted in his last days the truth!

A mostly unknown fact is that on his death bed and after the death of iris Murphet was seriously depressed and finally admitted sb was a fraud.
Tony O'Clery  2551
03-11-2007 12:31 PM ET (US)
sb is a fraud out of his own mouth. He couldn't cure Dorothy, and he has desires, although he says man is god plus desires. He desires a certain cereal and a certain type of toilet.He has desires and his bucket is full even though he is a decrepit.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  2550
03-11-2007 06:10 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-13-2007 06:21 AM
/m2541

Tony, why are you always trying to create drama where there isn't any? Is your life so boring that you have to make up lies to try and keep everything stirred up?

You people are all so dishonest you just cannot believe anyone who tells the truth. So you project your dishonesty and everything else onto others.

Shriver doesn't talk anything like me. Nor am I into converting everyone to vegetarianism. People will change when they are ready and I don't have to beat them over the head.

Maybe Tony is Dadlani...lol. After all, they are so much alike it's scary.



TONY O'CLERY EXPOSED



"You are right you will have to forgive my unsophistication. You see before I had any tertiary edu, I was a construction worker, cane-cutter, australian gigolo, union man, and surfer. Heaven for me was 'surfs up', and 'out the back', on Aussie beaches."--Tony O'Clery
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  2549
03-11-2007 01:34 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-19-2007 05:54 AM
/m2546


You are getting back EXACTLY the contempt you are putting out. Playing the whiney "victim" isn't working. Try acting like a man for once in your contemptuous sorry life, bozo the clown. Look in the mirror.

What part of, "I'm NOT interested in your sociopathic mind games," don't you understand? You are obviously not here to "prove" anything or you would have and could have done it by now. You are just here to milk the situation for all it's worth to get attention and you are boring and MANIPULATIVE. Not to mention you are as flakey as they come. So please quit wasting my time.

Why aren't you talking to the people at exbaba and the BBC if you can "prove" so much bozo? Obviously you CAN'T or you would be doing it. You are wasting your time talking to me. I don't believe a word you say and you have ZERO proof of anything you claim.

Must have taken you all day to think up that ridiculous answer. The stupidity just NEVER ends. Quit playing headgames and get a life.
Your reasoning is as flimsy as your ridiculous claim about dhotis bozo. Anyone with brains knows men in India wear dhotis, also called loincloths. Just because Alaya claimed Sai Baba wore a dhoti doesn't mean he was molested. There a MILLION reasons how he could know such a thing. All you are doing is playing your usual manipulative head games after you revealed how ignorant you are about dhotis and even contradicted your own claim while you did it (roll eyes)! Now grow up.

Agnes Wiggsbottom? Too funny. Probably Barbara Dent in another of her psychotic reincarnations. Hard to take anyone seriously who sides with known perverts and liars like usedcrybaby the "anonymous" wannabe porn star.

What a waste of time.


This page will show what a fraud and hypocrite usedbybaba aka usedcrybaby is:


USEDBYBABA EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED ANONYMOUS WHACKO ATTACKING SAI BABA
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  2548
03-10-2007 09:24 PM ET (US)

EXPOSED EXPOSED



No need to up date . JOELISA have nothing else to say except repeating the same thing again and again
These messages will show what a fraud Joe,Angel and His friend Lisa are.
/m2442 Angel wants no one to talk against his GOD BABA
/m2436 Lisa says that there are power brokers in India who can get Baba arrested (so I say ordinary citizens cannot and she is agreeing
/m2115 Angel confesses that he is neither a male nor a female
/m2047 /m2086 Angel and Lisa try to mislead people by twisting my words.
/m2036-- Miracles.Are they really true.I don't believe it.
/m2002 /m2007 /m2015 /m2529 /m2532 -

Joe and Lisa agree that Baba is a molester


/m1988-Lisa proves she is stupid again
/m1921- Lisa the Goebbels
/m1743 – Joe’s so called “usedbybaba exposed” and My reply
/m1760—joe’s love for biker babies
/m1759—joe tries his trick on what Veer Sangvi wrote in Hindustan Times
/m1748 – coo2 is put on truth serum
/m1746- proof that Lisa cannot discuss but only abuse
/m1719—Real meaning of WATCH – watch your words etc.,
/m1713 – SB on truth serum
/m1710 – SB on truth serum again
/m1706 – SB’s Advice to Lisa, When he was intoxicated
/m1702 – SB notices Lisa trying to find out about usedbybaba
/m1696 – Present Warden of Prashantinilayam(was also molested)
/m1695- SB if is put on truth serum
Agnes Wiggsbottom  2547
03-10-2007 09:16 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-10-2007 09:17 PM
And yet its CO2000 who sounds like a cracko.
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  2546
03-10-2007 09:16 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-10-2007 09:19 PM
Lisa ,jumping around the topic and abusing does not answer the question.I had said SaiBaba does not use undergarment andI meant underwear.Now you should have told us that Sai baba wears a dothi.Instead you quoted Alaya Rahm.You said Alaya Rahm had reported that saibaba wears a dothi.

So 1. According to you (because you are quoting Alaya Rahm as an authentic source) you know what he said about Baba is correct.(otherwise you would have told us that you know that baba wears a dothi and Alhaya Rahm would not have come into this topic.It is only because you felt that he is telling the truth that you quoted him against me.

From my part let me clarify again.Sai baba does not wear an underwear.The so called 'form' Students massage and masturbate while doing the 'padaseva' in the interview room.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  2545
03-10-2007 04:51 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-13-2007 06:23 AM
/m2543

I knew the bozos would do this. First they yapped for years about how Baba would not "respond" to the allegations (even though he did). Now that people are tired of the incessant harassment and vilification, and something is going to be done about it the Anti-Sai Sociopathic Society (A.S.S.) is whining already.

Get it through your thick head Tony, what is happening now is a DIRECT result of the ongoing harassment and lies perpetuated by your hate group. Your hate group cannot be reasoned with and so they will have to be dealt with by law. That is the ONLY way to deal with bullies like you. The Indian government also has laws for dealing with dishonest journalists and because of the A.S.S., the Indian government is also cracking down since they themselves have become targets of this racist disinformation campaign being funded and perpetuated by religious intolerant right wing wackos.

When I saw four years ago how extremely dishonest this hate group was, I KNEW it would come to this.



TONY O'CLERY EXPOSED



"You are right you will have to forgive my unsophistication. You see before I had any tertiary edu, I was a construction worker, cane-cutter, australian gigolo, union man, and surfer. Heaven for me was 'surfs up', and 'out the back', on Aussie beaches."--Tony O'Clery
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  2544
03-10-2007 04:39 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-10-2007 04:42 PM
/m2540

Of course she was incapacitated, the woman was in her eighties you demented fool! You are so far out in left field it is pathetic. Do you expect Baba to make her immortal at eighty years old bozo? And what have you done for her since you are so all-knowing and capable of judging others?

I wish you could understand just how DUMB you are. Tony, you are brain dead. Trust me, you are lucky you are not on life support you have such low operating brain frequencies!

Please get a brain and get off of the drugs and/or
alcohol you are on Tony. You are acting like a
mentally retarded person.
Tony O'Clery  2543
03-10-2007 04:27 PM ET (US)
SATHYA SAI BABA IS INFLUENCED ALSO BY BLAME - SO HE HAD TO REACT!
 
Sathya Sai Baba often boasts that he has perfect equanimity and is totally unmoved by all 'praise or blame' and remains unconcerned despite what anyone thinks or says about him. Now he has gone against his own advice to followers (see quote from Sathya Sai Speaks Vol. XIV here). So how come that he is now suddenly become so concerned about his critics and trying to 'dissuade' them? He said in his discourse of 16th February, 2007: "Persons indulging in vituperative publicity impelled by envy, greed or hatred will reap the appropriate consequence. The time has come when proper action has to be taken to dissuade these people from resorting to such false propaganda." All (intentionally) very vague and hence unconvincing to any serious judge - except probably to his many impressionable followers. He evidently hopes to scare critics off... but he doesn't understand anything about the wide world outside his fiefdom, for example that there is such a thing as freedom of speech and sound legal protection of it in many countries of the world (if not exactly India)! Besides, neither he nor his cronies will be able to disprove anything of substance which has been written about him by serious exposé commentators, because it is all most carefully stated to be as accurate and truthful as possible. Besides, any genuinely proven mistakes or unsupportable statements will always be removed by exposé writers, but no such cause has yet arisen.

The BBC has already faced down threats of legal proceedings by Sai Baba's minion - Dr. M. Goldstein - with complete equanimity, as did the head of Danish Broadcasting with the legal threats of Jørgen Trygved and as did Barry Pittard those of the Australian Sathya Sai Organisation's Mr. Ramanathan. Sathya Sai Baba has tried before - without the slightest success - to project his supposedly 'awe-inspiring powers' to silence critics. Though he has pompously declared that he needs no one to defend him and that it would be presumptious of anyone to try to defend the Avatar, God Incarnate - he now has had to signal to devotees for support... apparently he hopes to motivate and perhaps excite their animosity and whatever. He also has recently clearly condoned the rambling comments designed to avoid the criticisms by the deluded Dr. G. Venkataraman of Radio Sai (a scientist who believes in ancient myths and demons etc.!). He has previously generalised wildly and mendaciously (unsupported by a shred of evidence - because there can be none):"Why are they doing this propaganda? Even this bad propaganda is for money. All these bad thoughts are for money only." As to where the "false propaganda" really comes from - Sathya Sai and his Organisation - see documented here!
Why the sudden reversal of course? Having instructed everyone to ignore his critics now and again, and a few times lambasting them (eg. in his uncharitable lectern-beating Christmas discourse of 2000), Sai Baba's reputation is getting yet worse and worse, and the news about him is spreading in India once again. Much new emerging evidence shows him up in the worst possible light: Ullrich Zimmermann's description of the avatar wanting - and getting - his penis sucked, on two occasions, in on-line video from the USA! Then his gushing description on Christmas Day - not about Jesus this time, but about his devotee Idi Amin - praise of a ghastly despot and raving psychopath who- when they met - had already achieved a reputation for torturing and killing most brutally as persecutor of the Mau Mau and many others, besides having been a constant and shameless womaniser! This devotee went on to do yet far greater things in the name of God! Now Sai is nothing but positive about him, not a word of censure. What does that tell you?

Sathya Sai's constantly self-blazoned self-praise that he is all loving, all compassionate, all selfless, all pure nature has been shown by his own published words and known acts to be sheer falsehood... to which he now adds more bluster, brickbats and bluff. One simply finds it amusing when he thinks his critics actually envy him! Who would want to stand so credibly accused of what he is? Who other than a badly disturbed and manipulative psychopath would want to rule the roost, allow and condone police murders in his own bedroom, be worshipped endlessly and all the rest?

What kind of Divine Avatar of the Age - Creator of the Universe - is it which is forced to 'descend' to a worldly tactic of lying about his critics taking money? Note how careful he is not to name anyone, as this would have consequences for him with his total lack of evidence. His all-too-human reactions reinforce the certainty of those involved that Sai Baba either knows nothing at all about his critics or their motives, and especially not of their strict adherence (unlike him) to actual truth! Since we - and all those who know us well - know that we take no money for our work - he shows yet again with more indubitable certainty that he is a purveyor of libelous falsities! If he was referring to journalists who cover the issue, or the BBC, well - they do receive money for their work o.k., which is only a normal salary for work carried out. As to the accusations of "greed and hate" - Sathya Sai conveniently ignores (or simply forgets?) that many of his strongest critics are ex-office bearers from his organisation who have collectively donated very large sums of money and endless amounts of energy and time to his projects (which they finally learned are too often riddled with corruption and are used mainly to glorify Sai Baba himself in large, costly propaganda 'museums' etc.). He has obviously not the simple discrimination to tell the difference between 'hate' and 'righteous criticism and exposure of his falsehood'!

They are somewhat different to him, who has never really done any real work other than sound off his opinions, walk on red carpets and accept worship - while carrying out proven fraud in public on a daily basis! Still, Sathya Sai gets everything for free - absolutely everything necessary for a good life in what is totally beyond the majority of Indians and any self-respecting 'saintly person'. Besides, his main activity is indulging himself in endless egocentric self-expression and smiling (or frowning) at his worshippers. However, his followers are so blinded by his power and wily words that they cannot realise what is before their eyes and ears.

This Divine Descent boils down to a person who has 'come to earth' largely to pronounce his own magnificence, erect various kinds of expensive monuments to himself. What is so 'Divine' about managing to collect people's money to 'fix the plumbing' (for a limited areas to combat water shortage in Chennai, but wastefully in Rayalaseema with big setbacks involving technical failings, (unpredicted)severely falling water table, entrepreneur corruption and no one who will maintain it all). Or how specifically Divine is it to use part of the donations to open a couple of hospitals to enhance his name and fame and where his devotees (including foreigners and Indian VIPs) can get hi-tech treatment, but where patients appear to be very scarce in these big half-empty places in an area where the need of the Indian poor is so vast and intense? (Imran Khan has opened a free modern hospital in Pakistan, and many other have done likewise). Is this a Divine Descent? Or are we rather dealing with what The Daily Telegraph called Divine Downfall?

Sathya Sai Condons India's Greatest Evils by Ignoring them Sathya Sai lauds and blesses any politician who visits him and never speaks out against the many inhumane policies, their signal failure to take care of the most basic needs of most Indias, the massive Swiss bank accounts most of them hold, or riding the gravy train while the privileged get richer and richer. Claiming omniscience and omnipotence - Sai Baba never had the guts to speak out against their many powerful and brutal oppressors and utterly vile criminals throughout India... he has never defended in any substantial way whatever the tortured, raped, murdered and utterly desolate people of India, the tribals, the dispossessed, the vast army of beggars. Against Mahatma Gandhi's revered principle, Sathya sai welcomes 'blood money' and even in a public announcement of donors giving at least one crore at his 70th Birthday celebrations (such as Bhangarappa, a known corrupt Karnataka politician, who gave ten million rupees, and two famous Indian 'liquor barons', one of whom, Mr. Reddy, was murdered in Madras in 1996 only a week or so after a personal visit by Sai Baba accompanied by V.K. Narasimhan).

Despite his many earlier 'avataric predictions' that he claims cannot fail, India's gigantic injustices and problems are getting no better - still no social security whatever (all the poor get to live on is sunlight), no reduction of corruption, more infanticide, still bonded labour and life servitude as debtors to criminal moneylenders, child prostitution, a massive and growing AIDS epidemic, unimaginable numbers of child labourers, vast peasant penury, wife killings, ghastly begging mafias which deform babies into 'rat children' and 'spidermen' for profit, not to mention all manner of sexual abuse of children (sic!)… and so now Sai Baba states he is "minded to take a world tour". So has he given up on solving India's problems before he ever would go abroad, as he has repeatedly pledged? The man is a hotbed of contradictions, false predictions and outright lies, surely anyone who looks into it can realise that? It is well recorded how Sathya Sai Baba has told leading devotees on several occasions that he would visit them in their countries - for example USA, Italy and other places - but then he has changed his supposedly all-knowing mind, saying that India must be cured first! Devotees abroad have built mansions to house him and he has even himself caused the rebuilding of a new, lush, balconied apartment for him at Divignano in Italy ('Mother Sai House') because the toilet was not to his liking - i.e. it was European style and not hole-in-the-floor - I have been shown the luxurious teak-floored result myself!
 
  
Sai Baba's private jet - hired to take him 'on holiday' to Kodaikanal in 2005!
Sathya Sai's "minded to make a world tour". Though it is most likely another 'bum prediction', if he did it would surely be in another private jet hired with funds given for the poor, education, health etc., The almost unused Jumbo airport cost a small fortune too!
And here below is the palatial "Divine Residence" - one of his many, probably the best... Again we see " Swami" in his wheelchair in his hired private jet in 2006. Talk about waste/misuse of donated funds!
 
Sathya Sai Baba now has a bigger and better luxury residence at Prashanthi Nilayam - that's typical of where a large part of the donations go!
Tony O'Clery  2542
03-10-2007 02:59 PM ET (US)
Tony O'Clery  2541
03-10-2007 02:34 PM ET (US)
Is lisa sai om shriver?
Tony O'Clery  2540
03-10-2007 11:08 AM ET (US)
It was sb that said she was incapacitated after her 'cure' not me, and before her stroke.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  2539
03-09-2007 08:55 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-10-2007 06:57 AM
/m2536, /m2537, /m2538


Tony, you are so retarded it is pathetic. Do you expect a 70-80 year old woman to run the Boston Marathon? You'll be lucky to live past 67 at the rate you are going.
 

She was incapacitated when she had arthritis in her seventies before she was healed you idiot. DUH. And she probably went back to Puttaparthi after her stroke, dork brain.

At least she wasn't a brain dead vegetable like you! No matter how much documentation you idiots are shown which proves you are wrong you go on telling your lies. This is why, like David Icke, you will have to be sued to get it though your thick heads to cease and desist.

The person who filmed the videos is a bona fide tv journalist (with a real job) who actually knows how to document the truth, unlike you wackos.

 
Quit trying to play God you fool. You are an embarrassment. Thank GOD you are not in the Sai movement anymore!
 
Tony is an armchair critic who sits on his hemorroids all day and whines like a five year old. Get yourself a pacifier and some diapers Tony.



TONY O'CLERY EXPOSED
Tony O'Clery  2538
03-09-2007 07:21 PM ET (US)
I couldn't believe that poor intimidated woman talking about how she believed sb guided her to a shop to buy a ring. She was constantly looking at her overbearing husband, probably centre organiser a vip anyway. Such a pretty girl to waste her life with those criminals..Tony

http://www.geocities.com/aoclery/Dorothynotcured.htm
Tony O'Clery  2537
03-09-2007 07:15 PM ET (US)

Namaste,

Kingdom of Sai site.

Much against my better judgment I watched the video of the poor deluded
pink twins and some other handlers taking the video.

I notice the handler said that sb had indicated that Dorothy was
still '''''''incapacitated'''''''''but still came. So what about the
cure then???????????

It was a lesson in brainwashing, cultism and some psychoses!!
Definately not normal, just deluded brainwashed people with wishful
thinking stories.

sad sad sad, my family really loved those pink twins when we were at
the swara centre-----sb is an ogre.........Tony
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