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Lisa De Witt  249
09-25-2006 03:28 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-25-2006 03:31 AM
I don't know if Beast master thinks he is Sherlock Holmes or what but there are many many accredited scientists and journalists who have actually investigated Sai Baba (unlike Beast Master the anonymous armchair internet critic).
The award-winning journalist, Rod Serling did a documentary about Sai Baba in the early 1970s titled, Sathya Sai Baba: Man of Miracles. Even Mick Brown (who was raised a Catholic, as were most of the anti-Sais causing problems, and may have been acting on behalf of the Catholic church when he did the Alaya Rahm 2000 hit piece on Sai Baba) said in a 2004 radio interview that he does not believe the vibhuti materialzations are a hoax.


"Yes, well Sai Baba is I think an extraordinary phenomenon and a very perplexing phenomenon. Of course he's probably the best-known of all the living Indian swamis or teachers, and has a global following, running into, it's estimated, many, many millions. I'd heard a lot about Sai Baba over the years, but then as I became exposed to more and more of these stories and began to hear more and more about him, my path eventually led me to a house in North London, where I witnessed something rather remarkable, and one of the things that Sai Baba is said to do, as an avatar, as an incarnation of the Divine, as it's claimed of him, he's said to be able to perform many, many miracles, perhaps the least of which is to produce vibhuti, which is this holy dust, for want of a better word. And there are many accounts of him producing this from his fingers, but also of it manifesting quite spontaneously on photographs of Sai Baba in the homes of devotees. And I'd heard about this, but I hadn't actually seen it myself until I went to a house in North London.
It was an Indian gentleman who actually worked as a taxi driver, and he'd wanted to build an extension to his home in order to house this snooker table, billiard table, and so he'd gone ahead and built the extension, and had then invited some Hindu priests to bless the broken ground, and they happened to be devotees of Sai Baba, and they left in the home a picture of Sai Baba. Shortly after that, vibhuti began to spontaneously manifest on the picture, and he was rather disconcerted by this, and called them back and asked exactly what was going on, and they said, 'Well this is a blessing, this means that Baba is present in the house, and you're not to disturb anything, you're not to touch anything. And was told you can't put your snooker table in, this is now consecrated ground, as it were, and you must keep this as a shrine to Baba.
And so he had added to this picture with many other pictures, and also with little Buddha statuettes and images of the Christ and symbols of Islam, all of which appeared to be manifesting this extraordinary scented dust, vibhuti. And devotees would come to his house and would pray and have small services and then they'd scrape off the vibhuti from the pictures and give to devotees and they'd take it away with them by way of a blessing...But what I do believe is that it wasn't a hoax. So I do believe that that is the case, and I think in a way this goes to the heart of the ambivalence of Sai Baba, because he's a very perplexing and very confusing character to me..."--Mick Brown, ABC Interview-6/27/2004
Beast Master  248
09-24-2006 04:30 PM ET (US)
Do you people know how some devotees manage to make flashes of ashes appear on the picture frames of SSB? I want to hear your close experiences. Has any of you try investigate? Even if it failed I want to know how did it go.

Here is an account from http://www.exbaba.com/

how did they do it? Vertically in the top of the frame around the picture is a nail that sticks out by accident. In the board there is an impression of that nail, something that can only happen when you bring the picture in a horizontal position. This picture is the only one that is attached to the board by a kind of primitive hinge, consisting of two nails and iron wire wound around them. All other pictures just lean against the board. If you look carefully, it is clear that the hinge is used often.

Every Sunday afternoon, according to an informant, the picture is lifted from below and smeared with a kind of slush of water and ash. Of course, nobody may then enter the room. One day later the ash has dried, and the manager lets down the picture again, carefully. Because the ash comes off easily from the glass, the hinge has an important function: motions and vibrations are minimized during the process of letting the picture down. We tried the trick at home with ash from Baba. It works to perfection.
Lisa De Witt  247
09-16-2006 06:31 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-16-2006 06:33 AM
For the record, usedfor15years aka usedbybaba was the FIRST person to make lewd comments insinuating others were perverts because they don't believe his garbage and now the abusive phony is playing the victim.

Here is the proof:

usedbybaba wrote:

"sob sob sob sob sob.If you like the taste of
linga how can you object to some one "molesting "
you. Go and taste baba's linga . or rathnakar
maybe.it is free .They told me he is divorced.Is
it true? if it is true you can get married to
him. try him he is only in his thirties unlike
BaBa the Avatar who broke his leg who is in his
seventies uh eighties oh no nineties. umm i dont
know .maybe he will adjust it when he knows he is
going to die to suit the stories that he told.

by the way baba keeps telling the boys sbout the
third leg. we know of Siva's third eye what is
the third leg.ofcourse it is cock u dummy."

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/sathyasaibaba2/message/52399


Not only that but usedbybaba has been making threats and extremely lewd comments (as you can see) not fit to print.

As usual, it's not hard to tell who the REAL pervert is.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  246
09-15-2006 11:57 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-15-2006 11:58 AM
"abusedfor15years", you are a pervert. Your former comments (/m242) prove that abundantly.

I also have a question for you. Did you formerly use the name "ex-sai student"?
abused for15years  245
09-15-2006 09:20 AM ET (US)
Calling me a pervert is a very decent comment and i have to appreciate those who called me that. tell her to go find a chicken. Did i write about anyone else like that.or did i abuse any of you including lisa the sick one. My god i am fuming.If i call you a word connecting you and your parents how will you react.
I have been affected by baba in the same perverted way that she is calling me. i am the victim ( (u will not believe but for me it is real)and u touch a raw nerve i will explode. Again, i don't want to ask u to answermy questions,for, i know that in your heart of hearts u know that i am speaking the truth.even thaough u will deny it. I also did the same for a long time. but i did not abuse people who were anti sai.i thought that if he was god these people were his children. that was my faith then. maybe some of you are not confident of your baba that he can defend himself. or is it because you know that you are are fighting for a losing cause.




     
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Joe108Person was signed in when posted  244
09-15-2006 01:31 AM ET (US)
Look at Sai Baba EXPOSED whine, snivel and throw his typical girly hissy fits because I am not behaving and speaking as he thinks I should! lol

Far be it for "Sai Baba EXPOSED" (aka Sanjay Kishore Dadlani) to point his pudgy fingers (with pictures of Sanjay) and call others "homosexuals", "drunks", "drug-addicts" and "perverts" when the only person who has been fully exposed for these things is Sanjay himself. Even with self-admissions! The fact that Sanjay points out these things when he suffers from them himself strongly suggest he has some sort of deeply rooted psychological problems. He even contemplated the idea of slicing his flesh with razors and blowing his brains out with a gun after licking the barrel with his tongue! One word: Sicko.

Need Proof?

Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is a pervert: References: 01 - 02 - 03

Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") has homoerotic feelings for other men:
References: 01 - 02

Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is a drunk with a serious drinking problem:
Reference: 01

Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is racist against black people and purchased illegal drugs:
Reference: 01
Sai Baba EXPOSED!  243
09-14-2006 09:41 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-14-2006 09:57 PM
Re /m241:

Moreno, once and for all, get into your thick head: Discussion here is on Sathya Sai Baba. Your ludicrous assertion that discussion of this topic is a "diversion" is in itself utterly hilarious. Aside from the fact that you have several boards of your ownin which to carry out your obsessional hate crusade, the real situation is that you are the one distracting attention away from the fact that you cannot defend Sathya Sai Baba for all of the allegations that he faces, not that you were ever qualified or authorised to do so in the first place. You have a compulsive need to insert your nose into places where it doesn't belong. Imagine that! You have nothing to say in defence of Sathya Sai Baba. The recent discussion about birthdates is proof of that; you ran away and came back with more ad-hominem arguments which are your stock-in-trade.

Get that into your thick skull. You drone on and on in Wikipedia about how people should stay on-topic, yet you do not do so yourself. You are an extraordinary hypocrite who has been proven as a pervert and a pathological liar, and I have proved it.

You want my opinion on Abusedfor15years? I want your opinion on Simon Brace and Lisa De Witt, two of the biggest degenerates to ever set foot in a Sai Baba forum. Tough luck, because I have seen your hypocrisy on your website. You openly associate with them and embrace them, homosexuals and drunken drug-addicts that they are. I have no more interest in a pervert like you. Keep on trying to catch my interest, a pathetic pervert like you will not succeed. :-)
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  242
09-14-2006 03:23 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-14-2006 03:25 PM
For those of you who have been reading this thread and the comments made by "abusedfor15years / usedbybaba", perhaps you are not familiar with his recent comment made on the sathyasaibaba2 yahoo group?

"abusedfor15years / usedbybaba" said:
"who is premanand? by the way watch your language u fu***king third rate ar88hole. you must have slept with all the guys and maybe forgot who among these is premanand. u must have molested your brother or father and blamed them for this Don't try to tell me i am a pervert Maybe you got fu''d by BaBA. I can write worse than this and i am capable of doing more, u shit pot.Nothing except shit comes out of your mouth. Maybe you eat through your bottom. You can"t keep calling me names and expect me to take it lying. You bi''**h Who the fuck are you to forgive me you lingam sucking swine. tell me where you are or when you come to india i will pesonally meet you if you have the guts.bitch.Did ur boy friend fu**k u in thr mouth. If i come to know who you are belive me i will get you. I remember people for life and don't take me for granted. BAS****D" (Reference).

What do you want to bet that Sanjay will defend "abusedfor15years / usedbybaba" and his deeply disturbing, disgusting and sexually perverse comments?

As I have said before, Anti-Sai Activists are moral degenerates, liars, deceivers and much worse. Given enough time, they expose themselves and it is always NOT a pretty sight.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  241
09-14-2006 12:43 PM ET (US)
Contrary to your ludicrous assertions, my comments here are entirely applicable to Sathya Sai Baba and the controversy surrounding him. Exposing Anti-Sai Activists for their lies, deceit and dishonesty is relevant to Sathya Sai Baba. You, as a fully exposed pervert and pathological liar, want to dominate the discussion and divert attention away from Anti-Sai Activists. Tough luck.

- Information Page About Sathya Sai Baba

- Sanjay Dadlani Exposed
- Exposing "Sai Baba Exposed"
Sai Baba EXPOSED!  240
09-14-2006 01:41 AM ET (US)
Tough luck then. :-)

Let everyone witness Moreno's de-facto admission that he has nothing of value to contribute to discussions on Sathya Sai Baba. His purpose here is solely for slandering and demeaning a variety of ex-devotees in favour of a perverted guru who he does not even believe in, out of some sick compulsion to fulfil his proven and documented addictive stalking behaviour and obsessional fascinations.

Let everyone witness it. :-)

I have no further interest. :-)
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  239
09-14-2006 01:32 AM ET (US)
No such luck :-)
Sai Baba EXPOSED!  238
09-14-2006 12:58 AM ET (US)
What did I tell you, folks? :-)

Simple advice for Mr. Moreno the "f*****g wackjob":

Can't take the heat? Get out of the kitchen. :-)

Be relevant, or leave.

Naughty Children: Gerald 'Joe' Moreno
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  237
09-14-2006 12:18 AM ET (US)
For crying out loud Sanjay, do you have to babble and whine so much? Honestly, you have diarrhea of the mouth.

Sanjay Dadlani Exposed Blog
Exposing "Sai Baba EXPOSED"
Sai Baba EXPOSED!  236
09-14-2006 12:03 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-14-2006 12:12 AM
Even though this is off-topic (yet again), I'll reply for the sake of readers on this board who are not familiar with issues dicussed elsewhere.

>> The fact of the matter is that character and honesty count. <<

Since when? The topic of these discussion boards is Sathya Sai Baba. His character and his honesty (or lack thereof) count. Apart from this pivotal fact, if people like Moreno want to peep into people's characters, they suddenly assume that they have the automatic right to do so with no regards as to their own qualification to do so. Not even mentioning the fact that they themselves must stand upright with regards to "character" and "honesty" in themselves. See below.

>> Those who are trying to "expose" Sathya Sai Baba lack character and honesty and these facts are entirely relevant to Sathya Sai Baba and these discussion boards. <<

The very same logic applies to Moreno and his cohorts. They lack character and this has been proven and established all over the place. The one reason why this is not highlighted so much is that those of us who are exposing Sai baba for his homosexual paedophilia, involvement in murders and the like, do so with their complete attention and focus. The behaviour of our "critics" are an insignificant issue and are largely irrelevant to our purpose. A large part (around 99%) of criticism is ignored, because the so-called criticism is almost always based on a lack of facts at hand, not to mention the lack of common decency and manners. However, due to Moreno's increasingly fanatical and obsessive behaviour, it's about time that the lies that he has propounded as "truth" must be exposed for the lies that they are. You will not find us doing this on public discussion boards, since we do our very best to stick to the topic and respect the fact that discussion boards about Sathya Sai Baba are meant for discussions about Sathya Sai Baba.

Moreno's point is only partially valid if his attacks on Sai Baba's critics were based on something substantial, leave alone the fact that they are side-issues. This is not the case, because Moreno's entire gamut and function in life is to attack and "expose" Sai Baba's critics. Moreno has three websites that are devoted to Sathya Sai Baba; two of them are largely devotional in content whereas the third is "magnum opus" of attacks and criticisms that are like the effect of a fly on an elephant. He also owns two yahoogroups that are dedicated for the purpose of attacking Sai Baba's critics, and also has a total of no less than five defamatory and slanderous blogs that repeat and rehash the same things he has said previously in different ways. And to top it all off, Moreno has the blazing audacity to insist that he should be allowed the right to enter and disrupt discussions on Sathya Sai Baba on discussion board meant for that subject with his neurotic drivel and propaganda!

Readers, make up your own minds with the facts. And in response to Moreno's point, I haven't even begun discussing the lack of "character" and "honesty" on their part, nor the fact that they have no logical or coherent defence of Sathya Sai Baba. There is much to say on that, however.

>> Weirdo's and whacko's like "Sai Baba EXPOSED" & Co. would like to dictate the conversation and divert attention away from themselves because they have been fully exposed as established liars, embellishers and conspriacy theorists. <<

For reasons stated above, it should be clear that Moreno & Co.'s tactics to divert the topic away from Sathya Sai Baba (the stated purpose of this discussion board, yawn) and focusing on other de-facto irrelevant topics. By all means, if disaagreement on views exist then that is fine. Feel free to disagree! That is what discussion is all about. Unfortunately, Moreno's attacks are part of a sinister hate campaign where he is not interested in any form of conversation, discussion or exchange whatsoever. He is here only for the express purpose of posting texts and links about Sai Baba's critics, flooding this board with the same and disrupting the discussion thereof.

It also remains to be seen who are the established liars, embellishers and conspiracy theorists. Moreno and his minions are no angels in this regard; together they have come up with the most idiotic and asinine ideas I have ever heard in my life. Just two examples of this that come to mind:

- Several of Moreno's assumptions and speculations have been blown apart and refuted in many places. Still he has not corrected his misconceptions and continues to hold then in spite of all opposing evidence. Please see back archives for discussion of Alaya Rahm's court case for example.
- The anti-Sai movement (if there is such a thing!) consists of a Fundamentalist Christian, racist and white supremacist conspiracy with connections to the CIA in order to spread a campaign of disinformation about Sathya Sai Baba.

And Moreno has the audacity to claim that we are the weirdos and wackos? Ha! :-) Moreno openly associates with an admitted drug-abuser who grew drugs in his own home and even confessed to consuming hallucinogenic mushrooms, and also the open fact that he is an alcoholic with admiration for Adolf Hitler among a number of other weird facts. Another associate of Moreno's is a vile and vicious abuser who is pathologically incapable of holding a civilised conversation due to attitude problems. This associate openly hates men and has been responsible for creating and perpetuating some of the worst lies about Sai Baba's critics with no proof at all, despite repeated demands. An example of how this wacko did this is by maintaining the lie/conspiracy theory that the Expose campaign is carried out by a group of homosexuals and paedophiles (which is why they accuse him of being a homo-paedo in the first place). How ironic this is, when this associate was recently unmasked as confessing her own homosexuality and concealing it from others.

Tough luck. Moreno and his goons are no angels, so they can quit posturing and posing as moral guardians and the like since they will have much repercussions to suffer when all of these facts are publicised and brought out into the open.

>> Buckle down for the long haul, Sanjay. You will be held accountable for your perversities, obscenities and absurdities. You are a pervert, a liar, a stalker and an overall freak, with proof. <<

For reasons stated above, it should now be obvious that Moreno's posturing as a moral guardian now faces the event of being a laughing stock. In light of of his own perversities, obscenities and absurdities, it is hilarious that he attempts to point out these faults in other people that lie within himself. Need proof? He is a pervert, a liar, an *admitted* stalker and an overall freak, with proof. :-)

>> The general public that reads your frothing-at-the-mouth slop deserves to know what kind of person you are. There is no avoiding this issue so you better get used to it :-) <<

Touché. Unfortunately, the general public have evaluated my "slop" and find nothing essentially wrong with it. On the other hand, the general public are united on the fact that Gerald Moreno is a freak of nature. :-) He has been ridiculed and publicly humiliated in various places on the Internet for peddling his own distinctive brand of "slop", namely at the Guruphiliac blog, Dinakaran's blog, Gaudiya Discussions forum, Gaudiya Repercussions forum (kicked out three times in succession for exhibiting his perverted tendencies and stalking behaviour), and last but not least, Moreno has been termed as nothing less than a "f*****g wackjob" at TheStranger forums. That says it all, in my view. :-)

Here is yet another example of Moreno's vile campaign of hate and slander; whereas the article is about Shashi Tharoor's nomination for the UN Sec-Gen post, Moreno has nothing to comment on the article except to scandalise and smear me there for no reason at all. The author simply used one of my blog posts as a resource and all Moreno could do was criticise this. Behind my back too, and in tandem with one of his associates (mentioned above). This is proof that Moreno is a hateful, spiteful and vicious rottweiler who has no function in life except to defend a homosexual paedophile who he does not even believe in. Yep, that's wacky and weird alright.

Oh yes, and he had better get ready to buckle down for the long haul too. A time will come when all of Moreno's scandalous lies will be blown apart for the world to see. He will only have himself to blame, given the appalling standard of his vapid speculations on every issue to do with Sai Baba. :-)

Naughty Children: Gerald 'Joe' Moreno

I fully expect Moreno to come back (with froth at the mouth to boot) about how I am "ranting" with such "boring diatribes". That in itself is further proof that all of my statements about his own lies and hypocrisy are all correct. If Moreno claims that my writings are boring and that he has no interest in them, then he should explain why he relentlessly reads everything I say and keeps a record of it all to satisfy his admitted cravings for stalking people.

On the other hand, he can just display common decency and good behaviour (values that he claims to hold close to his heart) and either participate in this forum as a proper discussion participant or just leave altogether. Irrelevant behaviour is not to be tolerated here because this is not a soapbox for Moreno. Either discuss Sai Baba or get out, it's that simple. And that goes for everybody.

Ityalam.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  235
09-13-2006 11:38 AM ET (US)
The fact of the matter is that character and honesty count. Those who are trying to "expose" Sathya Sai Baba lack character and honesty and these facts are entirely relevant to Sathya Sai Baba and these discussion boards. Weirdo's and whacko's like "Sai Baba EXPOSED" & Co. would like to dictate the conversation and divert attention away from themselves because they have been fully exposed as established liars, embellishers and conspriacy theorists.

In Sanjay Dadlani's case, it's much worse. One will also notice how when Anti-Sai Activists criticize devotees and proponents, they think they are perfectly entitled to do so, yet exempt themselves from the same criticism they mete out to others. It's all hypocrisy. All lies. All "poison" (Sanjay's word: Ref).

Buckle down for the long haul, Sanjay. You will be held accountable for your perversities, obscenities and absurdities. You are a pervert, a liar, a stalker and an overall freak, with proof. The general public that reads your frothing-at-the-mouth slop deserves to know what kind of person you are. There is no avoiding this issue so you better get used to it :-)

Exposing "Sai Baba EXPOSED" (Sanjay Kishore Dadlani), Middlesex University Student residing the UK

Sanjay Dadlani Exposed Blog
Sai Baba EXPOSED!  234
09-13-2006 01:36 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-13-2006 02:49 AM
Moreno, do NOT use this forum as your personal soapbox to criticise other people. Nobody cares for your opinions about it's relevance or not. This board is about Sai Baba, and Sai Baba only.

The more you abuse this board, the more you will have to suffer ignominy. I repeat again, do not abuse this board and treat it as your soapbox or defence court. Discuss Sai Baba or else get out of here.


And by the way:

>> Don't expect Sanjay to retract his slander that Tony O'Clery is a homosexual and engaged in sexual relations with an alleged "informant" of his and David Bailey (Reference). He has not retracted these comments in 5 years, nor has he issued an explanation for making these comments against Tony O'Clery (a fellow Anti-Sai Activist). <<

Either Moreno is playing stupid or is deliberately lying. I have explained my comments several times in the discussion groups and have even apologised to Tony, which he accepted. Tony has himself stated the same thing as I did in more or less the same way. If Moreno does not know this, not my problem. If he regularly criticises others for "poor research", he would do well to focus on his own appalling standards of research. His ignorance on this particular subject is just one glaring example.

Until such time as the moderator returns from his vacation and reads his mails appealing to delete and ban bad behaviour from Moreno (Joe108), we may take notice of the following facts. Maybe Moreno will learn to behave properly in discussion forums instead of using every arena as his personal soapbox, leave alone the fact that he has opened his own QuickTopic board for the purpose. This information will be used as evidence against Moreno in places like Wikipedia, etc.

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Find out all about Gerald Moreno being oiled by Sathya Sai Baba, his slandering of a variety of former devotees, his own confession to being on the brink of insanity twice, his "convenient" changes from non-devotee to ex-devotee, his flip-flopping on Sai Baba's molesting of little boys, his humiliating defeat on the Guruphiliac blog, his strange fascinations with faecal waste material and anuses, his self-conception as a garden weed covered in animal excrement, his affiliation with ex-porn stars who make sick pornographic scenes of urination and simulated eating of excrement, his disturbing dreams about stalking me at night which unmasks his suppressed homosexuality: Naughty Children: Gerald 'Joe' Moreno.

And that's not even counting the sexual abuse, murders, lying about concealing his IP, exposed for faking emails to former devotees, having his "FAQ" blown apart (this guy thinks he is SO important that he has an FAQ!), his sound thrashing form the JuST group, and last but NOT least, the COMPLETE EXPOSURE of his shameless paedophile accusations against a respectable former devotee.

Does it end there? Certainly not! There is TONS more that you don't know about this puppet of Sai Baba's that is waiting to be revealed.
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