Healing happens in many ways.
1. A person feels that he would never get cured of a problem because of his lack of understanding of the human body and because of myths.When he suddenly gets cured he believes that his God has cured him or a particular medical method or treament cured him.For eg. in India, for epilepsy iron objects are given to cure.
2.Medical treatment itself cures.
3.Faith cures a lot of people,everyday.I know of a driver who converted to Christianity from Hinduism,because he thought Jesus cured his wife of some medical problem .I could see how these Christian organizations were exploiting this.
I also know of a Christian who added a Hindu saint's name as a suffix to his name, after being cured of brain tumor.
Besides I saw in a talk show of Oprah, a man who claimed that he was cured of Cancer not with the help of doctors but faith in GOD alone.
So it is proved that people get cured by faith alone.Baba or any other religious organization can exploit this universal truth and are doing it.
  THINK BEFORE YOU SURRENDER TO EVERY TOM DICK AND HARRY

Lisa posted;'Edited by author 03-03-2007 12:11 PM
Tony Bologna O'Clery is lying as usual. In a filmed interview in 2003, Dorothy claimed that she was cured and later on she had a stroke, which Baba did not cure. Dorothy said:

"He healed me a few years ago. I went in a wheelchair and walked out. But I had a stroke then. That was for the arthritis."

Nevertheless, she remained an ardent and faithful devotee to her death and was eulogizing Baba (out of her own mouth), with unflinching faith, until she died. And it is all on film too. If you create an account at the kingdomofsai website, view the link:
http://www.kingdomofsai.org/DispVideo.php?id=16

Namaste,

We all saw her give a lecture at the Wayside Chapel, after she was supposedly 'cured' and long before any 'stroke'. She could only walk haltingly and was obviously not cured. Even before her so called cure she walked with those ergnomic walking sticks. She has 'true beliver syndrome'. I sure wished I took a vidoe of that day at the Wayside..

Another ashram running pedophilia like sb's


http://www.news.com.au/sundaymail/story/0,...1322069-401,00.html

Oh too funny. Tony O'Clery blathering about true believer syndrome. This from a guy who thinks everyone in his family are psychic, who sees dead people and hears them speak to him and who enters demon trances! lol

Tony, why don't you try to give me another psychic reading? We already know how you miserably failed when you gave me a bogus psychic reading about a dog I never owned!

Talk about "true believers".

"MESSAGE FOR ANTHONY.

I liked his eyes when he was a baby. You could tell that he was different, from his eyes. They were violet, and looked different."
____________

oh,wow.

Edited by author 03-03-2007 03:37 PM
/m2404

Tony, are you drunk or what? I did not post that, Joe did!
If Tony cannot get simple facts like this straight, imagine what else he is screwing up.

Edited by author 03-03-2007 06:50 PM
/m2403


Usedcrybaby, quit patronizing people like you are some great rocket scientist. You are the weirdo who claims you believed Sai Baba (God) could purify you by giving him blow jobs! Why can you not see that YOU are the gullible dummy who thinks everyone should just believe a weirdo like you?

And why should I believe an admitted DUMMY like you without proof? You are contradicting yourself you lame brained fool!

Why are all you anti-Sais such dummies and hypocrites? Dummies like you should quit trying to pretend like you are smart and know it all when you are lucky you can tie your shoes by yourself.


Why do you people ALWAYS minimize and denigrate others healing testimonials and experiences (see miracle photos here)?

It wasn't a psychic reading at all. I must have confused you with another joe moreno on the sai-net who wrote and told me about the dog story.

If I was right by accident you would never give me a credit anyway/

Edited by author 03-03-2007 07:03 PM
/m2405


There were no Indians involved in this you lying anti-Hindu slob. And it was a sham orphanage, NOT an ashram. Big difference.

ALL the bozos were foreigners (probably white racist perverts like you from the german names). Maybe they know Gypsie Chapotin since Goa is where she used to live and is known for her Chai parties and hanging out with the hippies. Drugs, alcohol and perverts generally go hand in hand. Maybe they molested her son Neptune (since he was born in Goa in 1984) and that is why he is so messed up. Why isn't Gypsie whining about this? Peats was running his racket for pedophiles in Goa from 1981-1991.

SEX TOURISM EXPOSED

Since Tony is so intent on falsely painting Indians as the bad guys it makes you wonder what his motives are. Maybe Peats and Ingo are Tony's Australian buddies from Tony's gigolo days. And don't forget, Barry Pittard bragged about hanging out at an orphanage. Pittard obviously wasn't interested in adopting any children.

AUSTRALIAN PEDOPHILE CONVICTED

CATHOLIC FUNERAL FOR CONVICTED PEDOPHILE


"You are right you will have to forgive my unsophistication. You see before I had any tertiary edu, I was a construction worker, cane-cutter, australian gigolo, union man, and surfer. Heaven for me was 'surfs up', and 'out the back', on Aussie beaches."--Tony O'Clery

Edited by author 03-03-2007 04:12 PM
/m2410

No, it was just another one of Tony's drunken "mind imaginings," like his fantasy that he is going to be famous some day for continually talking like a pervert.

Edited by author 03-03-2007 07:38 PM
/m2409 yelling at me does not make Baba an Avatar.You are welcome to continue to be stupid (read Devotee).
Lie is an integeral part of your writing and not mine.I know that you are supporting Baba for anything but faith because,you twist the facts to prove your point as correct.Anyone who is dealing with GOD will not lie.If you are sincere,especially when dealing with an issue close to your heart like GOD,you will either hear both sides sincerely or will leave the topic to keep your faith.You do neither.You abuse, you lie about what others said etc., Is this the way to find out the truth about GOD in human form.When I was devotee,so many people cursed Baba and I felt that they were also his children and he knew how to deal with them.Most of my student friends know that I am not a devotee but they don't curse me.
The funny part is,Anti sais write with less hatred than you. They are more sincere to the topic of discussion than you.
Whom are you trying to fool.You are only fooling yourself and not others.If someone says Baba is not God he is finished .You will want him dead.What a devotee.Did your Baba teach you this hatred or is it your Christianity.You lied on my writings.You lied on the life of Jesus. Your hatred is devouring you and not others.How can you sleep with so much hatred in your heart.Even Sai Baba does not have so much hatred for his enemies.You must be having a lot of physical problems.All that would be because of your cursing .Hatred for others inflicts wounds on us. This is a universal fact.
All of us including Joe and Angel leave this forum and also abuse less,but you don't.

"Anyone who is dealing with GOD will not lie."
____________________

but will use 50 usernames over the years to prove a point?

Edited by author 03-03-2007 09:35 PM
angel quotes me "Anyone who is dealing with GOD will not lie."(GOD is BABA for you and not me .So if you feel Baba is GOD ,Behave as you WOULD do it in front of him.It is not incumbent on me to do so because my belief is different and I AM SINCERE TO MY BELIEF AND THAT IS NOT A PART OF THE DISCUSSION.I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS OMNIPRESENT OMNIPOTENT OMNISCIENT AND LOVING.I HOPE THAT IS YOUR DEFINITION TOO. IN ALL MY REFERENCE TO GOD I MEAN YOUR GOD IE SAI BABA )
So you are feeling guilty.Well I did not use 50 names and it is one more lie from you and your cronies and I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT BABA IS GOD SO IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER WE INFIDELS ARE RIGHT.YOU ARE ALL MORALLY RESPONSIBLE TO BE RIGHT BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL REPRESENTING

BABA THE 'GOD'

MAYBE YOU FORGOT THAT YOU BELIEVE THET HE IS GOD.
Even if you feel I used many names, the point is to prove to your heart WITHOUT BLUFFING that you are dealing with matters of YOUR GOD
All three of you tend to forget that you are convincing yourself of facts about your GOD, the emodiment of truth. It is an ironic that you have to use sleaze,Lies and abuse to prove the divine nature of your GOD.LOL

Edited by author 03-03-2007 09:46 PM
Angel:but will use 50 usernames over the years to prove a point?
USDBB:Another lie by a devotee of GOD, knowing very well that I had not written in so many names. Joe the cheat devotee included Lallu panju,lenin 99 etc. to the list.Remember that I was trying to change my name and I told everyone that.But like a true devotee of Baba the 21 century avatar, he included them in the list of anonymous names,just to make the list look big.Another proof of cunningness.All this to prove that Baba is GOD.LOL

Edited by author 03-03-2007 09:52 PM
The other convenient reason is you can avoid answering difficult questions.
You earlier wrote that I am abusing you unnecessarily.The fact is - you are the one who is the foundation for all the lies against me and so don't expect me to be fooled by your so called neutrality. Even now you are the one who is saying I wrote in 50 names.Look in the mirror, you will see a conniving crook .

Edited by author 03-03-2007 10:16 PM
I AM SINCERE TO MY BELIEF AND THAT IS NOT A PART OF THE DISCUSSION.I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS OMNIPRESENT OMNIPOTENT OMNISCIENT AND LOVING.I HOPE THAT IS YOUR DEFINITION TOO. IN ALL MY REFERENCE TO GOD I MEAN YOUR GOD IE SAI BABA
____________________
I don't perceive God as a person.