James,They read a few books and they hear what they want from thier so called gurus and also good gurus.They interpret all this according to what their intellectual,spiritual growth.
One Indian Philosophy called Nyaya -meaning logic.That is to use Nyaya or Logic to understand God.It is for those who cannot use other methods,like meditation devotion etc., None of us in this forum are great devotees of any God.We are Devoted to God but we have not matured (maybe we can also use the word ripe)either in our Devotion or meditation to understand the philosophical difference between God and us.Or shall we say Atman and Paramaatman . So using logic is the best way for the present especially when we all have different different ideas.
What does Advaita say.I hope all of us agree in it. It says.God and we are one and the same. So if God and we are one, where is anyone else be existing??.How can some one else ,whether it is this or that Baba come and do something like appearing in our dream. It is Our Atman,also called the subconscious mind by scientists, which creates our (babas or any other form) in our dream.
Now if we believe our own dead parent/parent or grand parent or someone we like and also believed by us as a person who has powers after death,our prayers to them also helps.They will also appear in our dreams and also perform miracles.What is the secret??

OUR BELIEF

Lahri Mahashya the great guru inAutobiography of a yogi is quoted as telling a woman "If you believe this Photo of mine as me (or Divine) it is me.If you treat it as a photo, it is a photo." So I( repeat , it is we who make a difference because we are inherently divine and all the philosophical terms like jivan muktha, Paramataman jeevatman etc., are just the jargon used by philosophers.

Edited by author 05-18-2007 02:15 AM
/m2186

Are you illiterate James (Sanjay Dadlani)? There is absolutely nothing wrong with my vocabulary. You anti-Sais continually talk down to people calling them "dumb". So why are you such hypocrites?

Pretty difficult to have a conversation with people who have hidden agendas and do not know what they are talking about half the time, like Tony O'Clery and his baloney about muktas. Tony is so dumb he does not even know a mukta can have a body (jivamukta) and yet the fraud is trying to pretend he is some expert on advaita and puts others down.

BTW O'Clery, Shirdi Sai Baba said, "Mukthi is impossible for those addicted to lust."

Angel,why do you leave you and Lisa.Tell everyone that I am Lisa and I am Angel and I am Meera and jeo and Tony.If you have some semblance of a descent talk,you will jump into the fray and destroy it. Remember I am from India and I don't use words like Vocab.I write full - Vocabulary.Any how you have an agenda .Go ahead

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:01 PM
/m2200

Because he is a coward who cannot grow up and act like an adult. All he can do is play head games and talk down to people as a cover for his idiocy.

james you got it.In my name they will start calling you dumbo etc.

ho ho ho

James you are a coward dumbo blah blah(just kidding,don't take it seriously)

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:09 PM
Remember I am from India and I don't use words like Vocab.I write full - Vocabulary.
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so James is not you then.
Oh,ok.

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:11 PM
ubb when you pretend to be somebody else it's very obvious,so,why even bother?

Edited by author 03-12-2008 04:30 AM
/m2201

You have NO idea what other people do and WHY they believe what they do about gurus you con artist and pretender. Lots of people believe in Jesus "just because" (like you) they read about him too bozo. So once again you show what a hypocrite you are. Nothing new in that.

And besides, I don't care what your beliefs are whatever your name is. I've seen enough of your perversions to last me a lifetime. If you want to play guru, start your own cult and leave us alone.

The anti-Sais are all wannabe gurus who have big egos (Messiah complexes) and think they are going to teach everyone a lesson.
Everyone of them has fallen flat on their face when it comes to "character" and revealed themselves to be nothing but low-life perverts and ignoramuses.

Yet still they are living in denial and babbling on as if they have not been found out. Apparently a jail cell is about the only thing that will wake egomaniacs like them up.

Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Any how coming to the serious talk,I believe that we are divine and to realize that we need gurus who do not have a personal agenda,like Ramana Maharishi. There are many others who use our spiritual need to their advantage,material advantage.
I said Ia do not believe in Avatars,but I should say I am agnostic. I do not know whether avatars existed or do exist.All the so called gurus and Avatars are nothing but traders who make money selling spirituality.This is my belief and I am not expecting anyone to have the same view.

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:18 PM
/m2210

You have a personal agenda ya hypocrite, otherwise you wouldn't be here pushing your demented filth.

Lisa.Dont make me use bad language early in the morning.Just shut up wait for james or whoever I am talking to to come and answer. Angel are you happy.Go and take your money from Joe

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:21 PM
/m2212

Everyone knows all it takes is the truth to push you over the edge bozo.

Angel tries to listen to you and all you do is abuse and play mind games. I already knew there was no sense in wasting my time on a pervert like you who does nothing but lie and play mind games for attention. Doesn't your mommy pay enough attention to you little boy?

Fuck off you whore .Tell yoru sucke r Angel to have fun with you not me .bastard.You deserve Baba and his cock.Go and have fun with angel

Go copy this cock sucking dumbo.Where is your baba.His cock does not raise easily is it not.Because he is impotent.An impotent Guru is serviced by Ahit Lisa.

Angel you are a rouge and money making shit pot. so shut up

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:25 PM
/m2214

What'd I say folks? The coward is a real big man when he is beating up on people.

Hey, James, here is your new best friend. You can have him. You seem to like the "f" word a lot. Little boys must have their toys.

ho now james has become different now is it? You desereve the fuck word everyday and every minute and every second for that is what you are whore.
What do you expect,you will call people dumbo and we have to keep quite.

SHUT UP

wHERE IS THAT JOKER ANGEL. Money making bastard.I told everyoen that this guy is a crook and he proves it again and again.As I mentioned earlier, Angel is the number one crook.I never trust men /boys who are girlish

/m2212
money??

I'm not attacking anyone..you are.

You seem to like the "f" word a lot.
So you don't like to "f" is it.Then why are you with Angel, baba and others.
Go ahead and tell everyone the truth.What is wrong with a little extra money

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:33 PM
You are, sucker.Angel, you are attacking me.

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:34 PM
wHERE IS THAT JOKER ANGEL. Money making bastard.I told everyoen that this guy is a crook and he proves it again and again.As I mentioned earlier, Angel is the number one crook.I never trust men /boys who are girlish
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As Stephanie Tanner would say...HOW RUDE!
please be nice or leave!

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:47 PM
/m2210

Like I said before, you have just revealed you are a liar. You said you had sex with Sai Baba because you believed he was God and now you are saying you don't believe in Avatars or God!

Yesterday you claimed you were a Hindu and before you claimed you were a Christian so one can easily see you have been deceiving others all along.

You obviously made up this story because you thought it would get you some money and/or fame so you are no better then the gurus you project your own selfish greed onto.

And Baba doesn't charge ANY money so once again you are a blatant LIAR!

You are, sucker.Angel, you are attacking me.

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no i'm not...you're insulting me.

It is because of you that Lishit is calling me names and you like it.I like calling you both names too.So fuck off

i've work to do.I will come later

Edited by author 02-18-2007 10:35 PM
I like calling you both names too.So fuck off
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Oh,well... that's not nice,not nice at all.

i've work to do.I will come later
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take your time.

/m2225

Quit whining you hypocritical wacko and crybaby.

Hard to believe that big baby is in his fifties!

/m2227

All this shows is that usedcrybaby is a sadistic wacko who just admitted he delights in hurting people.

Remember Angel, he constantly calls others, including Baba names and then whines like a big crybaby when he gets a taste of his own medicine.

Edited by author 02-19-2007 12:18 AM
No I'm not usedbybaba and I'm not illiterate, I have a college qualification in English, thank you very much. Which is more than what I can say for you fellows. I repeat, try finding something interesting to say instead of calling everyone dumbo.

So I didn't get an answer to my question? Who is Shirdi, and is he still alive? How can you see dead people?

Edited by author 03-12-2008 04:37 AM
/m2231

Blowhard James (the great intellectual, Sanjay Dadlani playing psychotic mindgames like the rest of the anti-sai wackos on this board).

You obviously came here to start an argument. When are YOU going to say something intelligent?

If you are so intelligent, look it up. I'm not your secretary.

I've said lots of interesting things on this board but apparently the only word you can comprehend is "dumbo" so don't blame me for it.

No I'm not usedbybaba
________________
i think you are.

sb stumbling around in his own bs up to his neck


http://home.hetnet.nl/~ex_baba/engels/shortnews/babablunders.html

Edited by author 03-05-2008 06:57 AM
/m2234
What O'Clery the closet racist refuses to tell you is that most of the states in India were created by the British as a result of secularism and that is what Baba is against. You can't get the truth out of the neo-fascist anti-Sais as truth is anaethema to them.


The anti-Sais seem to forget they are
cavorting with anti-Semites (white supremacists) ,
atheists, sexual perverts like O'Clery, usedbybaba,
Sanjay Dadlani and anyone else they can jump into the
dumpster with!

Too funny.

And then there is the wannabe brainiac O'Clery trying to preach
advaita and falling flat on his face. Moral: White
supremacists and Hinduism don't mix (remember what Hitler did to the sacred Hindu Swastika).

No I don't find your comments interesting, very puerile actually. You're the only one arguing and abusing everybody. I just did some googling on Shirdi and turns out he is dead. So you see dead people? You're nuts.

James if you don't even know who Shirdi is,what are you doing in this thread commenting?

I googled it already, I told you. I discovered this forum while searching for something else you inquisitive fuckhead. Stop asking stupid questions and tell me all about how you fags can see dead people.

Edited by author 03-12-2008 04:45 AM
/m2238

And asking if fags can see dead people is a "smart" question, James? How do you know if people on this board are fags? Did you date them?

Like I said and I was apparently right, you have a love affair with the "f" word. And what was that you were saying about being abusive? All Angelic did was ask you a question and you blew a valve (just like usedbybaba). Besides that James, why are you butting in on conversations which are really none of your business anyway? Funny that you good ol boys always side with the men perverts. After hearing your foul mouth it doesn't surprise me at all.

James sounds a lot like Sanjay Dadlani. Dadlani has been known to play these kinds of immature mind games and fags is a word he uses a lot.

BTW, James the brainiac, there is a true show on tv in the US about a woman who sees dead people and works with the police for a living helping dead people get justice for their murders.

From the sound of your tone, I think maybe it is you who is nuts.

Time for an update:

• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed




• Anthony "Tony" O'Clery Exposed




• Barry Pittard Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

Edited by author 02-20-2007 02:54 AM
/m2236


Then why don't you go away James? I'm not being paid to entertain you. Nor do I care what you think about me.

Why are you being so dishonest James? First of all YOU are the one who started the argument by making snide comments when it is really none of your business and you are being biased and dishonest. One does have to wonder what your agenda is James.

Secondly, you obviously either have not read these pages or if you have you are being doubly dishonest as I NEVER argue unless attacked first.
When people make dishonest allegations they cannot back up, that is where I draw the line. The argument started when those corrupt individuals making allegations LIED and were caught in their lies. When they were confronted with their lies they began to abuse and lie some more. And on and on it goes, James.

English translation:
Interviewer: Idi Amin took power by a coup in 1971. He is estimated to have killed up to about a half a million of his countryman before he was removed by a coup in 1979. He took with him the national fortune and left behind an almost ruined Uganda, himself dying in exile in 2003.

N.R.Amundsen(Daughter of idi Amin): Yeeees.. in part. It was his personality - also the way he changes his mind and invents things - gets impulses - that is quite like him. But unfortunately we did not see how really charismatic he was - that is, in the film - because we see only where he was most brutal - one does not understand why people liked him... what it was that made people in Uganda like him.

Interviewer: What kind of charisma was that?


He could talk, was amusing and polite and quite unbelievable Like Sathya Sai Baba - and he always referred to God. He said "I dreamed and God came to me( like Sai baba appearing in many devotees' dreams) in a dream and said that I had to extradite asians" for example, if he wanted to say anything. He was very dramatic.

Comment from Exbaba: Though Sai Baba is 81 (or - if official birth registers are relied on - is now really 84 years old), surely he should not be losing his mind in senility when so many others live into their 90s and beyond and yet retain their clarity and intelligence intact? There are old ladies and men who can still do gymnastics and even parachute jumps at well over the age of 80. But Sathya Sai Baba as the omnipotent avatar, God Incarnate, is reportedly losing it more and more, physically and mentally! Now that is a genuine mystery, isn't it?

 Professor Narendra Nayak has informed us:

    “We have been leading a campaign against Sathya Sai Baba and his so called miracles. As of now, a very powerful movement is coming up against him in Tamilnadu. He came to Chennai and performed a yaga and M. Karunanidhi (the Chief Minister), a avowed rationalist, met him and discussed. We don’t know what. He then started praising him. We have started a campaign against that. The Periyar Drvaid Kazagam has made condensed version of the (BBC’s) ‘Secret Swami’ in Tamil and copies are going like anything”.

An eyewitness circa 1979 account of Sai Baba, in full public view, ordering Joseph, an American long time resident devotee, thrown out of the Whitefield ashram when he spoke to fellow devotees of how a number of Sai Baba’s college students told him of Sai Baba getting college boys to masturbate.

Edited by author 02-29-2008 12:33 AM
So Robert Priddy aka truthseeker (what a misnomer for such a dishonest, evil, cowardly wannabe man), the drunkard shows up.

Hey Priddy, when are you going to grow up? You are 70 years old and still have not learned to tell the truth.

Idi Amin was NOT in power when Baba went to Uganda and he didn't go to see Amin anyway you liar. Baba went to tell his devotees to leave the country. Why are you such a dishonest slob Priddy?


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba


Funny that none of these students can EVER speak for themselves you dishonest con man and racist. Why are you trying to give people the impression that Indians are cowards?

Perhaps you should try seeking your conscience FIRST before you try seeking the truth. You must have lost it in one of those booze bottles. You like so many in your group of alcoholics need to join the Alcoholic's Anonymous Twelve Step program so you can learn to take responsibility for your asinine behavior and right the serious wrongs you have committed before you die.

ROBERT PRIDDY EXPOSED

‘Sai Baba’s Tip To Keep Ageing Away. But He Couldn’t’, the Australian scholar Brian Steel’s remark of February 2002 seems almost prescient:

     ‘Since the ‘discrepancies’ appear to be increasing nowadays, is there any possibility that Sai Baba is suffering from a degenerative ageing disease which might have an effect on his thinking and speaking?’ http://bdsteel.tripod.com/More/Nonsense.htm

Likewise, in October 2002, a Swedish psychologist and former devotee, Åsa Samsioe, noting physical signs of Sai Baba’s ageing like his development of a ’turkey throat’ and also the “low intellectual level” of his discourses, remarked:

    ‘He must have one heck of a job, Sathya Sai Baba… it can’t be easy to age in his situation, besides being under so much criticism as he has recently been… not surprising that it leaves its marks. Occasionally I think ‘poor man’… feel some pity for him. A whole life built on lies… captured by the myth about himself… to be the object of the projections of millions… and to be forced , at least outwardly, to live up to all the expectations put to him… to always have to have all those people around him’. http://home.no.net/anir/Sai/enigma/Swede4.htm

It is just under a decade since Sai Baba informed devotees all round the world that his aircraft is about to take off to bring his mission to the whole world. But the runway, like his own imagination, would seem to have run away on him. He turned 81 last November (though evidence indicates that he has falsified his actual birthdate by three years). Here, in his own words, in almost in full flight, is yet another of his myriad failed predictions:

    ‘Swami’s mission has made this turn to face the runway. The 70th birthday was the signal from the tower to accelerate. In the 75th birthday, the airplane will leave the ground’.

Three British men have died mysteriously after becoming followers of an Indian mystic famed as a ''god man'' and miracle worker.

Sai Baba's activities are being studied by the Foreign Office which is considering issuing an unprecedented warning against the guru to travellers.

The Times has learnt that three Britons have apparently taken their lives after placing hope in India's most popular holy man.

One of them had complained of being repeatedly sexually molested by Sai Baba at his ashram in Puttaparthi near Bangalore.

Michael Pender, an HIV-positive student, was found dead at a London hostel after taking alcohol and painkillers. He had already tried to commit suicide at the holy man's headquarters.

Aran Edwards hanged himself at home in Cardiff after joining a Sai Baba support group and being encouraged to write to the guru to solve his psychological problems.

Mr Edwards sent a flurry of anxious letters but was devastated after receiving no replies and being told that the guru did not read his mail.

Andrew Richardson, a South Africa-born British national, jumped off a building in India shortly after visiting Sai Baba's ashram.

Among visitors who have paid respects to Sai Baba are the Duchess of York, the Prince of Wales's architect Keith Critchlow, the cricketer Sachin Tendulkar and the Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee.

Sai Baba's message is being preached in more than 500 British schools through charities which claim to provide non-denominational education in ''human values''.

Tom Sackville, a former Home Office Minister, last night urged the Government to take decisive action to warn teachers and pilgrims of the dangers of becoming involved with Sai Baba. The guru's reputation is plummeting after the United Nations cancelled a conference at his headquarters, issuing a condemnation of his alleged sex abuse of youths and boys.

Unicef pulled out of a conference it was due to sponsor with the guru's educational organisation in Puttaparthi last September.

The UN's cultural agency issued a trenchant statement: ''The organisation is deeply concerned about widely reported allegations of sexual abuse involving youths and children that have been levelled at the leader of the movement in question, Sathya Sai Baba.
(...)

I googled it already, I told you. I discovered this forum while searching for something else you inquisitive fuckhead. Stop asking stupid questions and tell me all about how you fags can see dead people.
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excuse me?
you need to get some manners...you're as rude as usedbybaba.

Edited by author 02-20-2007 11:00 AM
Sathya seeker why are you spamming this board with exbaba articles?
This is a discussion board.

Edited by author 02-20-2007 05:04 AM
/m2250, /m2246

Truthseeker = Robert Priddy aka con man. Everytime Priddy opens his big mouth without a script, he sticks his foot in it.

ROBERT PRIDDY EXPOSED

The secret of the morphing genitals is simply this. sb is a hermaphrodite with both genitalia. He apparently can withdraw his scrotum like the karte experts can. This would leave his vagina and penis. His penis is quite diminutive and no doubt is higher on his abdomen due to his having male and female sexual organs. So guiding a hand to belowe the penis would give the impression of morphing.
Remember sb talked in his discourse about ateeta sakti or group hypnotism, often seen on stage shows. He actually did this one time convincing people they saw a monkey appear, shrink and disappear. I actually talked to one the people present. So having one's mind influenced by him in a confined space is no big deal, neither is hypnotism.

Edited by author 02-21-2007 02:00 PM
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satya "Will some one expose this so called Bada badmash "BABA" babu please. With he in twilight of his life, what will happen to Millions of Crores of his money? YSR is really a cunning fox. Out for his money, now that he and his kith and kin has looted Telangana lands and earned in millions."
( Posted: Tuesday , January 30, 2007 at 20:35 )

Here is a man who he says is avataar of god, sitting with politicians and giving free gold to ministers and talking specifically about "Bifurcation of AP" not unity. what has bifurcation has to do with unity?

Sid "Please dont call this guy Sai Baba, as Sai Baba is term exclusively for the Shirdi Sai Baba"

satya : Sai Baba is a business man, he is doing spritual business. He is one of very few who succeed in this business. For that he shows the "atma lingam" "vibudhi" and gold rings. So many times cameras cathed his tricks. This comments also part of his tricks to improve his business. No need to consider his comments. How can we treat he is a sanyasi when enjoying AC rooms and all facilities.
( Posted: Tuesday , January 23, 2007 at 22:12 )

Posted by supriya on Friday , January 26, 2007 at 01:00 )

Question is not TRS, Question is slightening and in veil manner asking a status quo of the exploitation by this Political baba. How dare he says such a thing. He owes explanation and unconditional apology. He must be raided and all money, black money should be properly used.

Look at this Bhagwan he has Z category security and he does not have rastr and pranth gyan.
Bill gates is doing charity and few wise sentences from him do not make him bhagwan.

SUKANYA It is time People got to accept the truth that baba is an ordinary trickster who has attained fame and name through illegal and immoral activities.at the fag end oh his sucessful business and personal career where is the need for him to try to offer Political solutions

It is definetly sin according to section 420 to fool people saying he is incarnation of GOD. Was he not caught on camera cheating. Sin is the murders most foul in his ashram. He giving gold gifts with shop markings.
His sin is to roam in BMW and centralized AC ventures.
His sin is to forget that it is public money he is spending and if not it has to taxed. It is SIN that a man claiming to be god and going about as BABA is mostly seen with dubious politicians and only with politicians. ( Posted by swami

Krishna Rao Baba's comments are taken as misinterpretation. All that Baba wanted to emphasis was unity and human oneness. If feeling of regional separation increases in every part of india, India would easily be attacked any foreign forces as it happend in history. Stand united and solve problems. One more thing no one suppressing any other.
Evey region has their own problems not only Telangana. Solution is to get divided. If that is the only solution, India should be divided into many small countries.

By The way, what did KCR (TRS Chief) do to his own constituency when he was MLA and Central cabinet Minister for Labour and is MP. If he cant deliver fecilitis to his own constituency, what can he do to remaining Telangana.
( Posted: Tuesday , January 23, 2007 at 20:35 )

venkat Reddy : Where was this Baba, when we are marginalized? Where was he when central and state govt jobs are looted by Andhra/Rayalseema cunning capitalists. Does he read the SRC commission report and Nehru's views on Telangana?
This Baba is from Rayalseema, same area of AP CM who had a secret chat for 40 minutes. Baba if really were Baba should have told him to stop occupying the lands of Hyderabad and other regions of Telagana for his relatives, kith and kin and using state funds to make roads and flyovers in wrong places to help real estate prices. He should have told that is sin. He should have told AP CM that this wholesale loot is a sin. Does someone want a debate? 40,000 acres of land in Hyderabad at stake and displaced are us. Down with capitalists-real estate-MNCs and Babas. Down with congress we elected.

 Its unfotunate that, these student unions going to a temple and destryoying it. There is nothing wrong in Sai Baba saying everyone should be united, Mr. KCR always provokes and instigates voilence, till now he and his party has not done anything for the telengana region, even when he was in union cabinet he never did anything. He just wants money and power at cost of students and people.Its KCR who should appligies for hurting sentiments of millions of people.
( Posted: Tuesday , January 23, 2007 at 21:36 )

Shri Sai Baba's remarks is to be viewed in the right perspective.
Our Great Thinkers, Reformers, Leaders, Spiritual Gurus were always stated about Humanity and Equality. Even before independence all leaders were unanimous about equality and created secular state. Mahakavi Bharathi has visualised the free india with all people having same mind,rights and responsibilities - that is Nationalism without any discrimination among the people.
However BIG blunder was made when the states were created on liguistic lines. Regional political parties spread hatred among people on liguistic and caste lines. Now literally these linguistic & caste political parties are ruling the country and dividing the society by the name of caste/quota & other means. To get the minority/cast votes, now Govt. of Tamil Nadu has asked for re-writing of new constitution - saying that to protect the interest of opressed people - social justice is needed - hence new constitution required.

If we would have created the states purely based on geaographical method, lots and lots of problems would not have created like river disputes, border disputes and race disputes, etc.
My dream solution is that borders should be made with straight line as in the case in US and Australia. By doing so States should be reorganised and all regional languages should be made official languages.
If we create straight line above Madurai, there is no Mulla Periaya issue and Tamil, Mayalalee issue and there is two capitals one in Thiruvananthapuram and another in Madurai like in Kashmir, Maharashtra. Govt. and Private employees can be transferred to other areas so that they will know extra languages and Nationalism will grow.
If we draw another line abvoe Chennai. There will be no Kaveri problem, Chennai and Bangalore would be state capitals. Above Chennai we can draw vertical lines also as per area / population. In Pondicherry, Tamil, English, French, Telugu, Malayalam are official languages. Think Pleas
( Posted: Tuesday , January 23, 2007 at 21:48 )

Baba has said that dividing the people of a land is sin and there is no doubt about it. Those fighting for Telangana should read the history books and see how sentiments of people have been misused by narrow minded leaders for their selfish ends.
I pity the people involved in Telangana separtatist movement because perhaps they will see their grandsons forming some other '...gana' out of Telangana, if they succeed in their selfish objectives.
( Posted: Tuesday , January 23, 2007 at 19:53 )

 Sai baba was simply expressing his opinion.

India is a democratic country and I believe every one has right to express (led them be a god men or ordinary men)

I find people… reacting to it to be crazy……

( Posted: Tuesday , January 23, 2007 at 19:38 )

Guys wake up. Politicians are just trying to raise silly issues to increase their importance. What baba said was "Unity is good for the country" is this wrong ? People are nuts to follow self centered politicians and be used by them as pwans.

Edited by author 02-28-2008 11:55 PM
/m2253

Tony, WHY are you so DUMB and dishonest (trying to mislead people)?

First of all, I asked Priddy the question, NOT you. I don't want to hear your ridiculous drivel as I've already listened to it. I'm confronting Priddy with his obvious idiocy and I deserve an explanation after having to listen to his hate speech and lies for so long. I'd like to know why a person who claims he is a "scholar," (who pretends to be a psychologist when he is merely a philosopher) is buying into this garbage about supernaturally morphing genitalia. I'm asking the so-called "rationalists" the same question but they are busy hiding out somewhere lest they show the egg on their faces.

You are not an expert on hypnotism Tony so please quit trying to act like one. Hypnotism cannot create REAL objects and there is NO REAL world data proving Baba EVER studied hypnotism. If you are going to make irresponsible accusations you better be prepared to back them up with some actual EVIDENCE. The REAL world data very clearly indicates these people making accusations are habitual liars (like you, Priddy, Pittard and Dadlani) who feed off of one anothers illness. No speculation needed. Where is your healthy scepticism and requirement for PROOF Tony baloney? Why are you such hypocrites when it comes to this issue and your double standard regarding scepticism? You hear a ridiculous story and you automatically believe it because it suits your hate campaign.

Since WHEN do sex pervs play magic tricks with their prey (twenty-some year old men) dumbos? And you have not explained how Baba is supposedly making his penis disappear and REAPPEAR! You seem to conveniently FORGET people are saying it is THERE and then it isn't THERE. A penis would leave a lump no matter where it is and it cannot be higher on the body so quit trying to play doctor. Nobody who claims to have seen his thing said it was higher on the body you dolt. Why are you dummies so bent on speculating like idiots just to try and be "right"? That is so immature it is disgusting. Now grow up and get a life.

It is pathetic listening to a wacko like you constantly driveling your drunken nonsense! This is what happens when pseudo-intellectuals like you have no evidence to prove your idiotic drivel. You start creating all kinds of idiotic theories (mind imaginings as you call them) and conspiracies like the gullible "true believers" that you are. Go do the Twelve Step Alcoholics Anonymous program Tony so you can learn to think like an adult and take responsibility for your idiocy. Your fairytale mentality doesn't cut it in the REAL world Tony.



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Edited by author 02-20-2007 03:08 PM
Spamming the board with comments people make about Sai Baba in newspapers is just another form of cheap propaganda. Get a life, Priddy et al.

Racists like you are a dime a dozen. In the end, nobody listens to you because they see how SELFISH, shallow, dishonest and downright evil you are.

To a person who is hypnotised real is perception, the material stuff he actually just conjurs and admits it himself.

The secret of the morphing genitals is simply this. sb is a hermaphrodite with both genitalia. He apparently can withdraw his scrotum like the karate experts can. This would leave his vagina and penis. His penis is quite diminutive, and odd shape, and no doubt is higher on his abdomen due to his having male and female sexual organs. So guiding a hand to below the penis would give the impression of morphing.
Remember sb talked in his discourse about ateeta sakti or group hypnotism, often seen on stage shows. He actually did this one time convincing people they saw a monkey appear, shrink and disappear. I actually talked to one of the people present. So having one's mind influenced by him in a confined space is no big deal, neither is hypnotism.

These are not conversations, and they cannot be carried on with people who see other dead people. That's too funny. I haven't got a clue what you guys are all talking about but its pretty funny. If there's dead people involved then its even funnier. I expect you believe in God as well?

Edited by author 03-05-2008 07:05 AM
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Where is the PROOF Baba is a hermaphrodite who can withdraw his testicles? I know in your fairytale world and drunken mind imaginings he can do this but really we are dealing with the REAL world here, not Ickian nonsense you have learned from your wackadoodle fascist friends.


I have more proof that you are a sexual pervert (out of your own disgusting mouth) than I do that Baba studied hypnotism or is a hermaphrodite. If the dummies making the accusations could actually prove Baba was a hermaphrodite in court (which would be monumental evidence in a molestation trial), they would have NO problem proving they were sexually approached now would they bozo? So why are they not doing it since they claim to want to put Baba behind bars so badly? Do you realize how dumb you appear to those who actually know how to use their brain for something besides a hat rack? You guys are ALL talk and NO walk. You are ALL hot air balloons who just cannot back up your stupid and irresponsible accusations with EVEN ONE IOTA of PROOF.

Funny that you cannot discern your OWN silly mind imaginings Tony, also known as your fairytale mentality. Doesn't surprise me that a pathological liar like you feels compelled to enable other schizophrenics and pathological liars who live in their own fantasy world! You feel that you are the ONLY special ones who know the truth about Sai Baba (too funny). If you weren't so arrogant, headstrong and downright evil, I might feel pity for you and your delusion.

You must also be deaf and dumb as you obviously don't LISTEN or want to LISTEN. You just want to run your mouth 24/7. You act like a typical obnoxious drunk.

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Lest I repeat myself:

Tony, WHY are you so DUMB and dishonest (trying to mislead people)?

First of all, I asked Priddy the question, NOT you. I don't want to hear your ridiculous drivel as I've already listened to it. I'm confronting Priddy with his obvious idiocy and I deserve an explanation after having to listen to his hate speech and lies for so long. I'd like to know why a person who claims he is a "scholar," (who pretends to be a psychologist when he is merely a philosopher) is buying into this garbage about supernaturally morphing genitalia. I'm asking the so-called "rationalists" the same question but they are busy hiding out somewhere lest they show the egg on their faces.

You are not an expert on hypnotism Tony so please quit trying to act like one. Hypnotism cannot create REAL objects and there is NO REAL world data proving Baba EVER studied hypnotism. If you are going to make irresponsible accusations you better be prepared to back them up with some actual EVIDENCE. The REAL world data very clearly indicates these people making accusations are habitual liars (like you, Priddy, Pittard and Dadlani) who feed off of one anothers illness. No speculation needed. Where is your healthy scepticism and requirement for PROOF Tony baloney? Why are you such hypocrites when it comes to this issue and your double standard regarding scepticism? You hear a ridiculous story and you automatically believe it because it suits your hate campaign.

Since WHEN do sex pervs play magic tricks with their prey (twenty-some year old men) dumbos? And you have not explained how Baba is supposedly making his penis disappear and REAPPEAR! You seem to conveniently FORGET people are saying it is THERE and then it isn't THERE. A penis would leave a lump no matter where it is and it cannot be higher on the body so quit trying to play doctor. Nobody who claims to have seen his thing said it was higher on the body you dolt. Why are you dummies so bent on speculating like idiots just to try and be "right"? That is so immature it is disgusting. Now grow up and get a life.

It is pathetic listening to a wacko like you constantly driveling your drunken nonsense! This is what happens when pseudo-intellectuals like you have no evidence to prove your idiotic drivel. You start creating all kinds of idiotic theories (mind imaginings as you call them) and conspiracies like the gullible "true believers" that you are. Go do the Twelve Step Alcoholics Anonymous program Tony so you can learn to think like an adult and take responsibility for your idiocy. Your fairytale mentality doesn't cut it in the REAL world Tony.



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Edited by author 02-20-2007 10:08 PM
/m2271

Well, one thing we know for sure, James (or Sanjay playing his multiple personality mind games), the intelligence which runs your body and keeps you alive is much smarter than you are.

We can also see you are an expert at mocking people You must have taken Mocking 101 in college. Your mother must be very proud of you and your great brain.

Edited by author 02-29-2008 12:27 AM
It is obvious the anti-Sais in general do NOT have the ability to process data. Some of this is sheer stupidity and some of it is intentional on their part. Such as the blatant lies, etc. They should also add "inability to ASK intelligent questions" to this definition.

Alcoholism/drug abuse (whether past or present) and dishonesty are two of the main reasons.

Another reason could also be bribery.


Main Entry: dumb
Pronunciation: 'd&m
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English; akin to Old High German tumb mute

6 a : lacking intelligence : STUPID b : showing a lack of intelligence <asking dumb questions> c : requiring no intelligence (dumb luck)
7 : not having the capability to process data (a dumb terminal)



Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 02-21-2007 01:08 AM
From CNN IBN It is definetly sin according to section 420 to fool people saying he is incarnation of GOD. Was he not caught on camera cheating. Sin is the murders most foul in his ashram. He giving gold gifts with shop markings.

Edited by author 02-21-2007 06:02 AM
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Usedbybaba why are you posting as truth seeker? Even Priddy sounds smarter than you if not by much.

You are a very ignorant person.

Jesus, who went to India, also claimed he was God and all men were God. Was he a fraud?

What about people like YOU who continually murder the truth and seek to kill the spirit of man which is worse? There was no proof of cheating on camera, you are lying once again. Baba didn't murder anyone you liar.

Like I've said before, criminal accusations must be addressed in COURT. The fact that you cowards can do nothing but hang out on the internet and whine like the crybabies you are for YEARS ON END speaks volumns as to your lack of PROOF of any of your ridiculous claims. You are in bed with the racists and the atheists who abhor freedom of religion (even though the dummies themselves benefit from the freedom to practice their non religion without being ridiculed or persecuted...while they ridicule and persecute others for their beliefs...how smart is that?) and you are echoing their drum beat like you are their kith and kin. Whine all you want about peoples beliefs regarding God but unless a person commits a crime their beliefs are sacrosanct (even YOURS regarding Baba no matter how misguided and idiotic).
So, instead of whining us to boredom, if you think Baba is a fraud put up or shut up and prove it in court, cowards. Even Kreydick, who had the courage to state his convictions UNDER OATH in the U.S. is more courageous than all of you nitwits put together. You had the chance to prove yourselves there and you cowered and ran away.

Once again you show you are an ignoramus who is obvously NOT a Hindu. Metals and gems in Hinduism have great spiritual significance, protection and healing powers so once again you show you are a greedy materialist who thinks only of money. Your remark is the type of superficial and callous remark a racist would make.

From CO2000 -Metals and gems in Hinduism have great spiritual significance, protection and healing powers

FromCNN IBN -He giving gold gifts with shop markings.

Edited by author 02-21-2007 09:01 AM

India deserves a (more) dignified and responsible President

http://www.rationalistinternational.net/

FRom rationalist international.net -The aging godman stands accused of sexual abuse of minors among his devotees. Numerous cases of victims from India and abroad have come to light. Though Indian authorities seem still far away from opening a trial against the well-connected offender, too many victims and witnesses - mainly from Europe and USA - have broken their silence to further ignore his crimes. Some of their statements are recorded in articles that appeared in the London based The Daily Telegraph and in the film documentary "Seduced by Sai Baba", produced by the Danish State Television. In 2000, UNESCO washed its hands off Sai Baba by deciding neither to sponsor nor take part in a conference it had been planning to organize along with the Institute of Sathya Sai Education (ISSE, Thailand) and The Flinders University Institute of International Education (Australia), in Puttaparthi, India.

Edited by author 02-21-2007 09:10 AM
CO2000:Like I've said before, criminal accusations must be addressed in COURT.
Rationalist international.net :"In December 2005, I have written a letter to President Dr. Abdul Kalam, which was never answered. It demanded criminal investigations against Sai Baba. "If Sai Baba's social development projects are meant to be indulgence to nullify his crimes, this procedure is unprecedented and unacceptable", I wrote. "It is a shame for India that well-founded accusations and numerous reputed witnesses against Sai Baba are ignored without any investigation. Do saffron clothes make an offender untouchable for the law? Do we have to tolerate that political protectionism raises its head so boldly, mocking India's democracy?" I asked in my letter.

From Rationalistinternational.net: India: Tsunami bishops trouble Tamil Nadu

The south Indian state of Tamil Nadu may have the worldwide highest rate of churches per capita. Though only a small minority of people call themselves Christians, there are said to be as many as 1500 independent Christian churches represented in the Independent Churches of India Association in Chennai (earlier Madras). Most of them belong to the huge and ever-growing group of evangelical churches that are founded and supported from abroad. Some are Anglican or Orthodox splinter groups. Many are Pentecostals of different origin. They have names like Calvari Mission Trust or Halleluyah Full Gospel Missionaries of India. Though quite tiny and never heard of, many of these independent churches have their own bishops. Nobody knows exactly, how many robed men are roaming around, who has appointed them and who is paying them.

From CNN IBN
Its unfotunate that, these student unions going to a temple and destryoying it. There is nothing wrong in Sai Baba saying everyone should be united, Mr. KCR always provokes and instigates voilence, till now he and his party has not done anything for the telengana region, even when he was in union cabinet he never did anything. He just wants money and power at cost of students and people.Its KCR who should appligies for hurting sentiments of millions of people.
( Posted: Tuesday , January 23, 2007 at 21:36 )

From CNN IBN
Shri Sai Baba's remarks is to be viewed in the right perspective.
Our Great Thinkers, Reformers, Leaders, Spiritual Gurus were always stated about Humanity and Equality. Even before independence all leaders were unanimous about equality and created secular state. Mahakavi Bharathi has visualised the free india with all people having same mind,rights and responsibilities - that is Nationalism without any discrimination among the people.
However BIG blunder was made when the states were created on liguistic lines. Regional political parties spread hatred among people on liguistic and caste lines. Now literally these linguistic & caste political parties are ruling the country and dividing the society by the name of caste/quota & other means. To get the minority/cast votes, now Govt. of Tamil Nadu has asked for re-writing of new constitution - saying that to protect the interest of opressed people - social justice is needed - hence new constitution required.

If we would have created the states purely based on geaographical method, lots and lots of problems would not have created like river disputes, border disputes and race disputes, etc.
My dream solution is that borders should be made with straight line as in the case in US and Australia. By doing so States should be reorganised and all regional languages should be made official languages.
If we create straight line above Madurai, there is no Mulla Periaya issue and Tamil, Mayalalee issue and there is two capitals one in Thiruvananthapuram and another in Madurai like in Kashmir, Maharashtra. Govt. and Private employees can be transferred to other areas so that they will know extra languages and Nationalism will grow.
If we draw another line abvoe Chennai. There will be no Kaveri problem, Chennai and Bangalore would be state capitals. Above Chennai we can draw vertical lines also as per area / population. In Pondicherry, Tamil, English, French, Telugu, Malayalam are official languages. Think Pleas
( Posted: Tuesday , January 23, 2007 at 21:48 )

Om sairam to my beloved Sai Family,
Greetings from the land of Sai Shiva, the abode of Highest peace,Prasanthi Nilayam. This year’s Maha Shivarathri celebrations were fully CHARGED with divine energy and perennial stream of love of our beloved Sai Ma.

The streets of Puttaparthi were packed, the Kulwanth Hall was obviously packed and double the number of people were waiting out side to get a glimpse of Sai Shiva… our beloved Swami.

16th February 2007

This morning the hall was packed by 3 am and same number of devotees were lined up for afternoon darshan on the hill top. Swami came around 8:15 to bless the gathering with His divine darshan. I was almost at the end of the hall, and during festivals, crowd is just uncontrollable raising from the seats, raising their hands, I hardly had a glimpse of Swami. For the past one week, it was the same for me. Which ever line I choose, that gets last or second last token number. I was wondering as what would have gone wrong. I was very much convinced that its all His play and pain is followed by pleasure.

The morning session completed with distribution of prasad. After receiving the prasad, I went out to see the queue and the area behind Ganesha was full. Not knowing what to do, I was walking by East Prasanthi. There I met one elderly devotee from New Zealand, who was in queue for the bench. While I was talking to him, I saw a huge flood of devotees rushing towards the Kulwanth Hall entry gate. My 70 Kilo body was literally carried away as if the doors of a dam was opened. Before the sevadals could come and control the crowd, I found my self entering the Kulwanth hall. I was in fact 9th person to get in and being a BIG day, the whole first line spots were reserved for VIPs. There were only 15 vacant spots in the first row and being the 9th person, I rushed to get a spot. It was all His play. I had no idea what I was going through. In no time I found myself in a perfect CAMERA MAN kinda spot where I could see the whole proceedings. My heart was crying, I had no words to describe the happiness. Swami, all these days, played with me and now compensated with a first row, and this is NOT an ordinary day.. I was thanking my stars for this boon. There was a big group of Russians sitting next to me. It was only 10:30 am then and we all were inside for the afternoon darshan which would be any time after 3:30.

I knew it was all a patience game.. Just closed my eyes, repeating Lord’s name. It was 3:30pm and there was no trace of Swami yet. Many devotees were standing, some stretching their bodies, some taking a deep breath. The crowd out side was so huge that there was no chance to go out to take a break as there was no guarantee that we will come back to our spots. It was 4pm and the security near Swami’s House get alert signaling the arrival of the Lord of the Lords. Facing us were students and they were very close to the path way and Swami’s car, slowly entered the Kulwanth hall amidst Veda chantings and music. All were eager and excited as what would happen and wondering if the history will repeat again, will He take the Atma Linga again, will we see the intolerable pain Swami’s body undergoes.. Swami’s car now gets towards the gents side. As the students had almost occupied the path, the car had to get close to us.. so close that even the security couldn’t stand next to the car. Swami came towards us, was analyzing Swami’s mood, Swami’s car comes close to us and the beautiful form gets more clearer and clearer. He was all smiling, He was reading our minds.. Was praying from heart, Swami, no more linga, your darshan is the highest gift for us.. As Swami was right in front of us, He looks into my eyes, those looks which are full of compassion, those looks which are soothing, those looks which can scan one’s past, present and future, those looks which will make our hearts dance in joy.. O Swami!! How can I express my gratitude to you, You are a ocean of Compassion..

As Swami was smiling and blessing each and every one the car slowly passes by. as the car enters the students’ zone, many primary school students go to Swami showing the replica’s of various forms of Shiva lingams. Swami closely looked at each and every one.. After the car was halted near the dias, Swami came on the dias. He asks one of the boys, to call upon Mr. Raju, the chairman of Nagarjuna Construction group, who is a long time ardent devotee of Swami, whose leg had to be amputated recently because of a snake bite. Mr. Raju, came in his wheel chair, and sat next to Swami. I remember he was blessed the same day in 2006 to read few of the 17,000 poems which he has personally written in praise of Swami. Mr. Raju read the poems in Swami’s immediate presence. The poems were beautifully written in telugu and the reading went on close to an hour.

Later Swami called upon Mr.Popat, (who always likes to refer himself as Puppet) from UK shared his views about Swami. Being an eloquent speaker he was very impressive wit his characteristic blend of Hindi and English. He was of the opinion that its time for all of us to decide if we want to become good men or great person, a successful man or a perfect devotee of Baba. Its better to have His anugraha (grace) than all name, fame, wealth.

The objective of our sadhana is to realize God. We are fortunate to have God himself in our midst. Swami has come to realize that YOU ARE NOT THE BODY.. you are NO BODY. There is no ownership, doer ship, and knower ship. Its all Him. What is the role to be performed? We are just puppets in His hands. Only His smile is more than any awards or rewards. No one came here on their own. He brought us all. You pray to Him and He will come running to you.

We all are chosen children of our Lord. We have lots of responsibility on our shoulders. How many devotees go back to their places and contemplate and follow His words. Our Swami is Loka Nath. He is omnipresent. He works silently without any publicity.

Mr.Popat continued Your aim is to go forward, upward but INWARD. There are 7 up steps. First wake up, standup, dress up, look up, reach up, lift up and last and Swami likes it a lot, Shut up. Do every thing in the name of God and shut up. What ever you want to convey, convey heart to heart. What does Swami expects us to do. Wake up, with a spirit of God, realize your true identity. Sathya, Dharma, Santhi Prema and Ahimsa. Next stand up, we are not animals, neither are we birds, we are Sai Bhakta, aham brahmasmi, how do we get up. We have to make up our mind, that I will behave like a human being. What ever you want to ask, ask our Sai Ma. That’s our right.

Look up, be positive. Swami says, I am around you, below you be aware that I am aware. Every thought should be divine. Always know that Swami knows every thing. As long as we breath, as long as the food we eat is digested, take it that Swami is with us.

Once we look up Reach up, where ever you go go with conviction. When you see a poor man, you must feel the hunger. You should reach his heart. Poor people smile only when their tears are wiped, with love.
21 st century will not be preaching but reaching.. He is going to reach each and every one.
After you reach up, lift up after seeing Swami, listening His messages, we should lift up the poor and destitutes.

After doing all this shut up. Shouldn’t say anything.100% involvement an 0% attachment.

We have come here for a purpose. Make us to walk on sai path, sathya dharma Santhi Prema and Ahimsa.

Later Mr.Popat, concluded his talk making all of us praise our beloved Swami…

The next programme was what we all were looking forward to. It was also bit tense, what if Swami decides to take Lingam? Can we bear the pain again? As all these thoughts were pondering, Swami orders to get the discourse table to be placed before Him. He slowly raises from His seat, as there was a cheerful applauds from the audience, Swami adjusts the microphone, a broad smile at all the devotees and starts His discourse with a sweet telugu poem..…

Excerpts from the discourse


Sathyambu nandundi sarvambu srushtinche

Sathyambu nanadanage sarva shrusti

Sathya mahima leni stalamedi kanugonna

Shudda satwa midiye choodarayya

Every thing is born from truth and the cosmos will merge in truth. There is no place where Truth is absent.

TRUTH IS CHANGELESS

Every where truth pervades. Truth is propelling all over. Truth has no form and is every where. What ever you see is truth. (Swami now raises His hand, We all thought he is going to mention some thing about the bulbs but surprising all materializes a small golden object, to me it looked like a Lingam of the size of a peanut, He didn’t move His hands much, He got it from the thin air, as if He was plucking a fruit from a tree) it had a bright shine.. Swami continues This is Truth…where from this came and it will go back to truth again. (so saying He disappeared the object in the thin air) Sathyam is multidimensional. Truth is one but none can realize this. truth is not merely verbal. Truth can manifest in various forms. Brahma is one. God is only truth and all others are just reflections of divine. This truth has many names. Every thing has to emerge from truth. Dharma is originated from truth. There is no other Dharma beyond truth. When Sathya Dharma go together you get peace. Out of peace, you find love emanating. It binds every body. There is no place without love. Out of Love you have ananda (bliss). There is no hatred after you have love. If you want non-violence you should just have love. Mamai vamso jeevaloke jeeva bhootah sanatanaha we all are sparks of God. You are not separate. You are al MY reflections. Body and names may vary.. there is only one Atma in all. Body has got its own name.. why? For recognition. This is only for identification. Atma is same in all..


GIVE UP DUALITY

Today Love is categorized as separate entity. Love is ONE and same. Never give any
Scope for differences. Never have any duality. When there no duality you will have peace. Man with dual mind is half blind. You have 2 eyes. Both the eyes see same object. WE ALL ARE O NE. We all the children of same mother. We should acquire that one ness. Then only humanity will be united. Who is Human being. Is he the one with legs and hands. One who has no differences is HUMAN. There should not be any scope for differences. Bodies might be different, Atma is one. Names and forms are different. We should not develop differences with names and forms. We should be united where ever you are. Jewels are many gold is one, colour of cows are different but milk is one, we are born as human beings. How ever there might be some differences physically. Bulbs are many, current is one. There fore all bodies are equal.

PRAYER FROM DEVOTEES

Later Swami announced amidst loud cheers that He is not going to do the Lingodbhavam.
I am very happy to demonstrate the one ness of humanity. I received lakhs of letters from devotees all over the world asking not to perform lingodbhavam. Many doctors said its not good for Your body. For the man to know the truth I need to do that. For the blood to form as solid, one needs lot of energy. For utilization of this energy there should be enough strength. More over Each lingam weigh a lot. Many devotees said Swami it is not good to waste (your) valuable energy for this... those who believe YOU will believe and others are to be ignored. So please don’t strain your body…. Body is very is very important for us. We are here because of your body. We feel pain when YOUR body strains. So please control this energy. God can change earth into heaven and vice versa. So for temporary joy, please don’t strain Your body. This body is 82 years. This body will remain for some more time. Bhagwan will retain this energy to confer joy in the years to come. Very soon, I will make you all very happy (loud applauds)