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02-23-2007 10:24 PM ET (US)
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You see and talk to dead people, maybe you were drinking? Yes you were
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02-23-2007 09:49 PM ET (US)
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/m2342This is too too funny! Robert Priddy, who is trying to pretend he is some psychologist, sounds more like a confused mental patient. Talk about "true believer syndrome"! Priddy and O'Clery are as bad as Icke and his shape-shifting reptilian nonsense. First of all, how does Priddy know Zimmermann is being "frank and honest"? Does Priddy consider himself a human lie detector? Nothing Zimmermann says sounds credible to a person who is sober. And even Priddy admits Zimmermann contradicts himself! And please do have Priddy explain why a few people are claiming they actually touched a vagina yet Priddy claims Baba is not a hermaphrodite. Zimmermann claimed he interacted with BOTH a vagina and then a penis (unless you believe in Zimmermann's claim of supernaturally morphing genitalia phenomena...so which is it Priddles)? I wish you people could see for once how idiotic and INSANELY inconsistent you are! Do you think Priddles can prove his claims regarding men being able to hide their penises? What a bunch of Priddish NONSENSE! Why would an alleged obsessive sex perv want to hide his penis when you are claiming he is doing this to become aroused? Please do make up your minds! Hypnotism. Morphing genitalia. Hidden penises. Vibhuti pellet machines (that's a new one). Psychoactive drugs. Where is the SUBSTANTIAL proof, Priddy? Anyone could come up with these silly stories after reading Tal Brooke's book which has been out for THIRTY YEARS. We are tired of your very irresponsible accusations, manipulative secrecy and deceptive baiting tactics. You may be very good at manipulating dummies who believe any story they hear but intelligent people do not buy your pseudo-intellectual slop. It sounds to me like the person using psychoactive drugs is Robert Priddy himself! And Priddy has already admitted his long-term involvement with them. Perhaps he is having flashbacks! Why is Priddy automatically blaming Sai Baba for the drugging of others when all the KNOWN drug abusers, including Priddy himself, are in Priddy's camp and it is Zimmermann who is involved in a group (Ramtha School of Enlightenment) that is known for using red wine (of all things) to try to expand consciousness? Maybe Zimmermann popped some LSD before his interview with Baba. After all, we do know Ram Dass talked about carrying LSD with him when he went to see his guru, Neem Karoli Baba. How many thousands of people have read Ram Dass's books and followed his example? We KNOW Tal Brooke did. What do you want to bet Priddy did too since he wrote about his experiences with LSD then scrubbed those pages after I started bringing up his history of drug usage? It is important to note that LSD was made illegal in the U.S. in 1968 (banned in California in 1966) so Ram Dass was carrying illegal drugs after that. Part of the reason I am bringing this up is because Ram Dass was and still is considered a "guru" by many yet you do not see ANY of these anti-guruites attacking Ram Dass who was a known druggie (some literature has even claimed Ram Dass was a black market dealer and mind control expert for the CIA)! Why? Because he is a "white guy"? In a recent magazine article, Ram Dass even admitted during that time he was frequenting gay movie houses (where watching sex movies and masturbating in public were the norm). It is also well-documented that the CIA was dosing people with LSD without their knowledge in the fifties and sixties and was even sued as the result of the death of one of their scientists who was unknowingly given LSD and subsequently jumped out of a hotel window. Robert Priddy's mother also worked at a psychiatric hospital in the UK where LSD was used experimentally on psychiatric patients. Are we starting to see a pattern here? When I First Came to India "In 1967 when I first came to India, I brought with me a supply of LSD, hoping to find someone who might understand more about these substances than we did in the West. When I had met Maharajji (Neem Karoli Baba), after some days the thought had crossed my mind that he would be a perfect person to ask. The next day after having that thought, I was called to him and he asked me immediately, "Do you have a question?"Of course, being before him was such a powerful experience that I had completely forgotten the question I had had in my mind the night before. So I looked stupid and said, "No, Maharajji, I have no question."He appeared irritated and said, "Where is the medicine?"
I was confused but Bhagavan Dass suggested, " Maybe he means the LSD." I asked and Maharajji nodded. The bottle of LSD was in the car and I was sent to fetch it.
When I returned I emptied the vial of pills into my hand. In addition to the LSD there were a number of other pills for this and that--diarrhea, fever, a sleeping pill, and so forth. He asked about each of these.
He asked if they gave powers. I didn't understand at the time and thought that by "powers" perhaps he meant physical strength. I said, "No." Later, of course, I came to understand that the word he had used, "siddhis," means psychic powers. Then he held out his hand for the LSD. I put one pill on his palm. Each of these pills was about three hundred micrograms of very pure LSD--a solid dose for an adult. He beckoned for more, so I put a second pill in his hand--six hundred micrograms. Again he beckoned and I added yet another, making the total dosage nine hundred micrograms--certainly not a dose for beginners. Then he threw all the pills into his mouth. My reaction was one of shock mixed with fascination of a social scientist eager to see what would happen.
He allowed me to stay for an hour-- and nothing happened. Nothing whatsoever.
He just laughed at me.
The whole thing had happened very fast and unexpectedly. When I returned to the United States in 1968 I told many people about this acid feat. But there had remained in me a gnawing doubt that perhaps he had been putting me on and had thrown the pills over his shoulder or palmed them, because I hadn't actually seen them go into his mouth.
Three years later, when I was back in India, he asked me one day, "Did you give me medicine when you were in India last time?"
"Yes."
"Did I take it?" he asked. ( Ah, there was my doubt made manifest!)
"I think you did."
"What happened?
"Nothing."
"Oh! Jao!" and he sent me off for the evening.
The next morning I was called over to the porch in front of his room, where he sat in the mornings on a tucket. He asked, "Have you got any more of that medicine?"
It just so happened that I was carrying a small supply of LSD for "just in case," and this was obviously it. "Yes."
"Get it," he said.
So I did. In the bottle were five pills of three hundredmicrograms each. One of the pills was broken. I placed them on my palm and held them out to him. He took the four unbroken pills. Then, one by one, very obviously and very deliberately, he placed each one in his mouth and swallowed it-- another unspoken thought of mine now answered.
As soon as he had swallowed the last one, he asked, "Can I take water?"
"Yes."
"Hot or cold?"
"It doesn't matter."
He started yelling for water and drank a cup when it was brought.
Then he asked," How long will it take to act?"
"Anywhere from twenty minutes to an hour."
He called for an older man, a long -time devotee who had a watch, and Maharajji held the man's wrist, often pulling it up to him to peer at the watch.
Then he asked," Will it make me crazy?"
That seemed so bizarre to me that I could only go along with what seemed to be a gag.
So I said, "Probably."
And then we waited. After some time he pulled the blanket over his face, and when he came out after a moment his eyes were rolling and his mouth was ajar and he looked totally mad. I got upset. What was happening? Had I misjudged his powers? After all, he was an old man (though how old I had no idea), and I had let him take twelve hundred micrograms. Maybe last time he had thrown them away and then he read my mind and was trying to prove to me he could do it, not realizing how strong the "medicine" really was. Guilt and anxiety poured through me. But when I looked at him again he was perfectly normal and looking at the watch.
At the end of an hour it was obvious nothing had happened. His reactions had been a total put-on. And then he asked, "Have you got anything stronger?" I didn't. Then he said, "These medicines were used in Kulu Valley long ago. But yogis have lost that knowledge. They were used with fasting. Nobody knows now. To take them with no effect, your mind must be firmly fixed on God. Others would be afraid to take. Many saints would not take this." And he left it at that.
When I asked him if I should take LSD again, he said, "It should not be taken in a hot climate. If you are in a place that is cool and peaceful, and you are alone and your mind is turned toward God, then you may take the yogi medicine."--Ram Dass Where are all the "skeptics" and "rationalists" when we need them? How convenient that they are missing in action on this one. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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02-23-2007 09:13 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 02-28-2008 04:18 AM
/m2340With all the perverted and pathetic lies you tell that sounds more like your credo Tony. And you are the ones posting websites with people on them who had apparently ADMITTED they were pedophiles! Not to mention you constantly defend your own and others in your groups sexually perverse language AND abusive behavior. See /m2345 (post by one of your partners in crime) and tell me you don't agree with me about WHO the perverts are. "The Northridge Center for Sex Research founder, Vern Bullough, a self-confessed pedophile and editor of the "academic" Journal of Paedophilia, is in the sexology mainstream seeking to legalize adult sex with infants and children." If the above is any indication of what is to come for your group in the future you had better be scared Tony. By listening to you and knowing what I know about backgrounds of people in your group I think you are skating on VERY thin ice. Get real Tony, the writing is CLEARLY on the wall as to who the perverts are. You are not fooling anyone but yourselves! Look at you slobs and the lies and disgusting language you use on this board. You are all a bunch of perverted weirdos! Too funny, now Tony the shape-shifting flip-flopper is defending usedcrybaby's homosexuality ( /m2340) whereas before he was calling gay men "fudgepackers". Tony changes his story more than a con man caught by the police.
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02-23-2007 07:03 PM ET (US)
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It's about time Joe kept his regular 3 o'clock weekly appointment with me for his light refreshment. Oh how I love a bit of gay sex just before I go out for afternoon darshan and annoy people by not walking their way. The fools don't know that I'm busy fucking Joe in his hot little asshole and riding him like a bastard screaming for more. And then I blow my load of hot cum down his throat and Joe says YUM YUM
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02-23-2007 01:22 PM ET (US)
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Suck my wang, Joe!
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02-23-2007 01:02 PM ET (US)
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Just for the record, the "Joe Moreno" who commented on this board is not me. It is the psychologically unstable defamer "usedbybaba", who hides behind numerous fake names (50+ and counting). These are the weirdos, clowns, and Anti-Sai Nutters who are trying to "expose" Sathya Sai Baba. It's about time everyone see their lamentable behavior and what type of individuals are behind the Anti-Sai Movement. It's about time :-)
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02-23-2007 12:42 PM ET (US)
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02-23-2007 11:21 AM ET (US)
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I challenge sb and sai org to sue me.
sb is a gay molestor, murderer, embezzler, fraud, liar and cheat. His trust are stealing money hand over fist, and that is why they are always starting new projects.
sue me!!pleeeaaase.
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02-23-2007 11:18 AM ET (US)
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----sb's credo-'Pedophiles can boldly and courageously affirm what they choose. They can say that what they want is to find the best way to love ... an acceptable expression of God's will for love and unity among human beings."
There is nothing intrinsically wrong with being a homosexual, it is a natural occurrence in the whole animal world,due to sex switches in reincarnation. Their practises are somewhat unusual but gay pedophilia is another thing altogether, and something that sb practises.
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02-23-2007 06:16 AM ET (US)
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Edited by author 02-23-2007 07:02 AM
/m2338You can grow up anytime usedcrybaby. Falsifying other peoples names and statements is called fraud.
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02-23-2007 05:43 AM ET (US)
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So what if Baba is a Homo sexual.There are many Homosexuals in this world and Baba has taken up their cause.Its not wrong.
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02-23-2007 12:24 AM ET (US)
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Edited by author 02-28-2008 04:15 AM
/m2328Gee does anyone else smell the whiff of fascism coming from Tony's rotten breath? What did I say about how the anti-Sais will jump into any dumpster they can? Guess who it looks like is funding the atheists (such as Premanand, Edamaruku and most likely Kovoor when he was alive) in India? Paul Kurtz, the founder of CSICOP (Unamazing Randi and Co.). Paul Kurtz I do believe was also involved in Esalen CIA LSD and/or ESP experiments along with Hal Putoff. "In November 1962, Esalen sponsored a seminar boldly titled ``Drug-Induced Mysticism,'' delivered by {{Dr. Paul Kurtz}} and {{Myron Stolaroff.}} The two admitted LSD users had created an MK-Ultra front called the International Foundation for Advanced Studies to conduct their LSD experiments, and Kurtz was a leader of the Theosophist Society for Psychical Research."The Amazing Randi has been accused of being a pedophile and CSICOP has been accused of being a front for pedophiles. "The infamous "blackmail tape" which James ("The Amusing") Randi has fought so hard to suppress, has been brought up again in print, in a very complicated context. In the February 11th column by one Michele Landsberg, the prestigious Toronto (Canada) Star states: "The colorful Randi has been involved in a number of lawsuits. Part of the evidence brought against Randi was a tape of his telephone conversations, of explicit sexual content, with teenaged boys. Randi has at different times claimed that the tape was a hoax made by his enemies to blackmail him, that he made the tape himself, and that the police asked him to make it..."
Randi has threatened to sue the Toronto Star...""The Northridge Center for Sex Research founder, Vern Bullough, a self-confessed pedophile and editor of the "academic" Journal of Paedophilia, is in the sexology mainstream seeking to legalize adult sex with infants and children." Bullough's photo is on the very same page Tony posted with the rationalist article on Kalam and Sai Baba. "Bullough, former co-chairman of IHEU, died on Wednesday 21st June. His death was announced by Paul Kurtz, founder and chairman of the Center for Inquiry and Council for Secular Humanism."Strangely, Bullough and another accused pedophile named Dr. Ralph Underwager (founder of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation), both died not long after allegations regarding their alleged pedophilia became public. "Perhaps the most disturbing charges heard by the committee were provided by Dr. Reisman, who documented that the "founder" of the "Center for Sex Research," Dr. Vern Bullough, was a self-admitted pedophile as an editor of the very academic Journal of Pedophilia. Dr. Reisman, whose research spans 30 years, was also able to point out to the California legislators a score of other pedophiles and pedophile advocates on the porno conference "faculty." Their pedophilia is something these otherwise respectable gentlemen do not boast of in public. In fact, Dr. Reisman presented an original copy of the Journal of Pedophilia in which Ungerwager, speaking on the California State University-sponsored child pornography panel, declared:
Pedophiles can boldly and courageously affirm what they choose. They can say that what they want is to find the best way to love ... an acceptable expression of God's will for love and unity among human beings. It may take people being arrested. Revolutionaries have always risked arrest."
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02-22-2007 11:35 PM ET (US)
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/m2332So usedcrybaby is an atheist and homosexual. That would explain his homosexual fixation on Sai Baba. I think Koovor may also have been a closet homosexual as I stumbled onto something mentioning him on google about gay history while searching his name. Koovor started out as a Christian as his father was a preacher and then went 180 degrees in the opposite direction. Probably after his Christian family found out he was gay and disowned him.
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02-22-2007 11:25 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 02-24-2007 06:41 AM
/m2324How pathetic this sounds. More of Tony's fairytale "victims" whose parents supposedly may know but do not care whether their children have been molested! You people really need your heads examined so you can move into the 21st century and get a clue. Why is it that you are just NOW looking into these issues if you claim to care so much about children being molested? Whatever happened to Barry Pittard and his big claims of "free world class legal resources"? How come nobody is taking you bozos up on your promise of "free world class legal resources"? Did they find out like the Rahms that it is ONLY FREE if the accuser files charges in the jurisdiction where the government will prosecute or in a civil case where the lawyer takes their case on a contingency basis because he is sure he has enough evidence to win? The first consult with a private lawyer may be free but after that, unless the lawyer takes a case on contingency the client will pay the usually hourly fee plus court costs. Poor Brelsford probably paid all the fees for the Rahms and got stiffed. Nobody, i.e. NO family who even remotely thinks their child may have been molested would be so complacent unless they were abusing the child themselves. This is how one knows without doubt that Tony and Co. are lying through their teeth. From what I understand Baba does NOT see children ALONE in interviews until they are 18 or over. This would explain why all the complainants are FOREIGNERS over 18. This is also how I know the anti-Sais, Geyerhahn and Neptune are lying through their teeth. Apparently ignorant anti-Sais do not understand it is common for Indian families to send their children to live with gurus at a fairly early age and also common for boys to sleep in the same room with their guru. Part of the reason for this tradition was most likely safety from dacoits and wild animals as many Far Easterners still do live in areas where there are wild animals. I do believe Yogananda talked about this in his autobiography. Only a culturally ignorant, dirty-minded or racist person with an agenda would make something of this extended family relationship which is a cultural tradition. Why is it that anti-Sais who claim to have been devotees for decades do not understand the tradition of the guru-devotee relationship in India?
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02-22-2007 11:16 PM ET (US)
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/m2321Yeah Tony, you believe a lot of nonsense that just isn't true. That's the big problem with your fairytale, "true believer" mentality. Keep begging and like Icke, you may get your pants sued off of you and have to beg for money like he is having to do as a result of Warman's defamation lawsuit against him.
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02-22-2007 11:09 PM ET (US)
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/m2329Hey Sanjay, I guess you haven't noticed you are stuck like a broken record and making up stories as usual. I never said I talked to dead people. And why do you think anyone cares what a foul-mouthed mysogynistic, narcissistic nutjob and sex perv like you thinks?
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