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INDIA'S PRESIDENT IS IN ALL LIKLEHOOD A GAY PEDOPHILE LIKE HIS GURU.



India deserves a (more) dignified and responsible President

 
Sanal Edamaruku
President, Indian Rationalist Association and
Rationalist International


The poet-President & the “creator of the universe”

India’s President Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam has been the chief guest during the glamorous birthday show of controversial godman Sai Baba on 23rd November 2006. It is shameful and outrageous that the Indian President pays respect to a saffron charlatan, who exploits the gullible by claiming that he can produce ‘holy ash” from thin air, cure all illnesses, has created the universe and other nonsense more. It aggravates the case against President Kalam that he did not content himself with performing a kind of public relations routine, but went out of his way praising and glorifying the charlatan.

“I have immense love for Sai Baba”, Dr. Kalam said in his speech at Sai Baba’s headquarters in Puttaparthi . “I penned a poem in my mother tongue to greet Sai Baba on his birthday.” And he was not ashamed to read his poem (in a Telugu translation of the Tamil original) publicly to the cheering crowd of Sai Baba devotees. The rather embarrassing piece glorified Sai Baba as a glittering lighthouse and symbol of goodness. Because of Sai Baba’s presence, the President of India rejoiced, the earth was the most blessed planet in the solar system.

This is not only extremely silly and in bad taste. It is moreover irresponsible and undignified to a degree that is not compatible with the august office of the Indian President. President Kalam has misrepresented India and betrayed the trust of her people. India deserves a (more) dignified and responsible President.

 
India’s President Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam & Satya Sai Baba


The scientist-President & the exposed miracle man

It is deplorable that there are still many poor people in India, who are deprived of basic education and who don’t have any opportunity to develop scientific literacy. They are easy prey for frauds, fanning their fears and raising their hopes with “miracles” and promises of magical solutions for all problems. Miracle mongers and faith healers are inflicting a dangerous disease upon the weakest section of Indian society and have to be stopped by all means. It has to be one of the primary tasks of human development in India, to help the victims of superstition and blind belief to break the shackles of their archaic mindset and join the twenty first century.

Besides being the Indian President, Dr. Abdul Kalam is seen as one among the most prominent scientists of India and has raised great hopes for a better future, guided and protected by science. His concept “Vision 2020” promises to lead India smoothly into the orbit of the developed world. If a man of this stature and position uses his influence to come to the rescue a scandal-tainted godman, he commits a serious and unpardonable betrayal.

The children’s President & the alleged child abuser

In recent years, Sai Baba has hit international headlines as the center of another scandal. The aging godman stands accused of sexual abuse of minors among his devotees. Numerous cases of victims from India and abroad have come to light. Though Indian authorities seem still far away from opening a trial against the well-connected offender, too many victims and witnesses - mainly from Europe and USA - have broken their silence to further ignore his crimes. Some of their statements are recorded in articles that appeared in the London based The Daily Telegraph and in the film documentary "Seduced by Sai Baba", produced by the Danish State Television. In 2000, UNESCO washed its hands off Sai Baba by deciding neither to sponsor nor take part in a conference it had been planning to organize along with the Institute of Sathya Sai Education (ISSE, Thailand) and The Flinders University Institute of International Education (Australia), in Puttaparthi, India.

But all this seems not enough to stop President Dr. Abdul Kalam from publicly praising the fallen saffron star to the skies and lending him the shield of national honor to cover his shame. It is a shocking and somewhat macabre picture to see President Kalam, who loves to show himself in the company of children and cultivates an image of the great friend, promoter and protector of India’s youth, quite unperturbed and in such cordial relations with the man, who is held responsible for using his godly image to commit cruel and inhuman sexual abuse against hundreds of helpless minor devotees.

Philanthropy? A letter to the Indian President

Tainted and defeated, Sai Baba found a new avatar. One year back, on the occasion of his eightieth birthday, fans announced his transformation from miracle-man to philanthropist. Sai Baba's trust , which claims to be "the biggest NGO in the world after the United Nations", has allegedly spent millions of Dollars for drinking water, hospital and school projects around Puttaparthi (Andhra Pradesh) and in Bangalore (Karnataka). His down-to-earth development work is winning Sai Baba "even the hearts of non-believers", hoped his supporters.

In December 2005, I have written a letter to President Dr. Abdul Kalam, which was never answered. It demanded criminal investigations against Sai Baba. "If Sai Baba's social development projects are meant to be indulgence to nullify his crimes, this procedure is unprecedented and unacceptable", I wrote. "It is a shame for India that well-founded accusations and numerous reputed witnesses against Sai Baba are ignored without any investigation. Do saffron clothes make an offender untouchable for the law? Do we have to tolerate that political protectionism raises its head so boldly, mocking India's democracy?" I asked in my letter.

Spending a part of the great fortunes, swindled out of the gullible by pretending to have supernatural powers, for social development around his ancestral village doesn't make Sai Baba a great philanthropist. It is a well-known strategy of dacoits and gangsters, to build themselves a strong support base and a safe haven by winning the total loyalty of "their" villagers at home. Hasn't the cocaine mafia in Colombia done the same with their comparatively modest means? By the way, isn’t it a matchless irony that Sai Baba spends money, obtained by claiming the power to cure all illnesses, for super-specialty hospitals? Sai Baba himself, when he recently fell ill, preferred to be treated in one of his modern hospitals instead of relying on his own magic.

The people of India have a basic right to receive drinking water, appropriate medical care, education etc. It is the duty of any government to provide these essential goods. And it is an utter humiliation, if people are forced to receive their dues as alms from the hands of a "philanthropist" who expects them to bow theirs heads in front of him and praise his generosity. The situation becomes worse, if the government leaves the citizens in dependency of a "philanthropist", who is a criminal and a megalomaniac, and claims that he has supernatural powers and even created the universe. Sai Baba's birthday has become a day of national shame for India with a section of leading politicians, scientists and artists at the feet of a charlatan and alleged child abuser. If they express their devotion, because they are personally weak and gullible people, we have to ask ourselves why we don't elect confident, efficient, strong and intelligent politicians instead. If they do so because they want to celebrate the "benevolence" of a politically well-connected fraud and alleged criminal, they are deeply corrupt.

[Bulletin # 163]

You haven't got a fucking clue what you're talking about you nutjob, you see and talk to deaf people as if they were real that's too funny for life!

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Premathma swaroopalara.Why are you all fighting over my homosexuality.The whole world knows that I am one. It is understandable that Joe, Lisa and Angel are fighting in support of me. They know that I am going to die.If I die, they can share the booty along with my politician devotees,relatives and others.You can see how Angel is working hard to do this.He even writes in My name.
I am not an accused .Lisa is right. Even if the whole world accusses me, I am not an accused .They have to prove it in an Indian Court.They cannot do it,because the Judges,the Police and the Politicians are with me. So i am
acquitted even before I am accused.So I am not an accused but a victim.I can see that you are all laughing.So what I am the VICTIM.
Now the Indian Govt. has allowed me to have sex with boys girls and Angels. The Indian Government,the President and Oppositions parties have acquiesced to ignore all the complaints against me. So according to my devotees, my political friends and other stupid friends I am a VICTIM NOT ACCUSED May they beget more and more male children.

What's with all this dumbo dumbo stuff? Don't you guys have something interesting to say? Every single post has dumbo in it.

Edited by author 02-22-2007 10:02 PM
omg~ Usedbybaba just said he is a homosexual! lol
/m2330

"Why are you all fighting over my homosexuality.The whole world knows that I am one."

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/m2329

Hey Sanjay, I guess you haven't noticed you are stuck like a broken record and making up stories as usual. I never said I talked to dead people.

And why do you think anyone cares what a foul-mouthed mysogynistic, narcissistic nutjob and sex perv like you thinks?

Edited by author 02-24-2007 06:44 AM
/m2321

Yeah Tony, you believe a lot of nonsense that just isn't true. That's the big problem with your fairytale, "true believer" mentality.

Keep begging and like Icke, you may get your pants sued off of you and have to beg for money like he is having to do as a result of Warman's defamation lawsuit against him.

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/m2324

How pathetic this sounds. More of Tony's fairytale "victims" whose parents supposedly may know but do not care whether their children have been molested!

You people really need your heads examined so you can
move into the 21st century and get a clue.

Why is it that you are just NOW looking into these issues if you claim to care so much about children being molested? Whatever happened to Barry Pittard and his big claims of "free world class legal resources"? How come nobody is taking you bozos up on your promise of
"free world class legal resources"? Did they find out like the Rahms that it is ONLY FREE if the accuser files charges in the jurisdiction where the government will prosecute or in a civil case where the lawyer takes their case on a contingency basis because he is sure he has enough evidence to win? The first consult with a private lawyer may be free but after that, unless the lawyer takes a case on contingency the client will pay the usually hourly fee plus court costs. Poor Brelsford probably paid all the fees for the Rahms and got stiffed.


Nobody, i.e. NO family who even remotely thinks their
child may have been molested would be so complacent
unless they were abusing the child themselves. This is
how one knows without doubt that Tony and Co. are
lying through their teeth.

From what I understand Baba does NOT see children ALONE in interviews until they are 18 or over. This would explain why all the complainants are FOREIGNERS over 18. This is also how I know the anti-Sais, Geyerhahn and Neptune are lying through their teeth.

Apparently ignorant anti-Sais do not understand it is common for Indian families to send their children to live with gurus at a fairly early age and also common for boys to sleep in the same room with their guru. Part of the reason for this tradition was most likely safety from dacoits and wild animals as many Far Easterners still do live in areas where there are wild animals. I do believe Yogananda talked about this in his autobiography. Only a culturally ignorant, dirty-minded or racist person with an agenda would make something of this extended family relationship which is a cultural tradition. Why is it that anti-Sais who claim to have been devotees for decades do not understand the tradition of the guru-devotee relationship in India?

/m2332

So usedcrybaby is an atheist and homosexual. That would explain his homosexual fixation on Sai Baba.

I think Koovor may also have been a closet homosexual as I stumbled onto something mentioning him on google about gay history while searching his name. Koovor started out as a Christian as his father was a preacher and then went 180 degrees in the opposite direction. Probably after his Christian family found out he was gay and disowned him.

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/m2328

Gee does anyone else smell the whiff of fascism coming from Tony's rotten breath? What did I say about how the anti-Sais will jump into any dumpster they can?

Guess who it looks like is funding the atheists (such as Premanand, Edamaruku and most likely Kovoor when he was alive) in India? Paul Kurtz, the founder of CSICOP (Unamazing Randi and Co.). Paul Kurtz I do believe was also involved in Esalen CIA LSD and/or ESP experiments along with Hal Putoff.

"In November 1962, Esalen sponsored a seminar boldly titled ``Drug-Induced Mysticism,'' delivered by {{Dr. Paul
Kurtz}} and {{Myron Stolaroff.}} The two admitted LSD users had created an MK-Ultra front called the International Foundation for
Advanced Studies to conduct their LSD experiments, and Kurtz was a leader of the Theosophist Society for Psychical Research."

The Amazing Randi has been accused of being a pedophile and CSICOP has been accused of being a front for pedophiles.

    
"The infamous "blackmail tape" which James ("The Amusing") Randi has
fought so hard to suppress, has been brought up again in print, in a
very complicated context. In the February 11th column by one Michele
Landsberg, the prestigious Toronto (Canada) Star states: "The colorful
Randi has been involved in a number of lawsuits. Part of the evidence
brought against Randi was a tape of his telephone conversations, of
explicit sexual content, with teenaged boys. Randi has at different
times claimed that the tape was a hoax made by his enemies to blackmail
him, that he made the tape himself, and that the police asked him to
make it..."

Randi has threatened to sue the Toronto Star..."


"The Northridge Center for Sex Research founder, Vern Bullough, a self-confessed pedophile and editor of the "academic" Journal of Paedophilia, is in the sexology mainstream seeking to legalize adult sex with infants and children."

Bullough's photo is on the very same page Tony posted with the rationalist article on Kalam and Sai Baba.


"Bullough, former co-chairman of IHEU, died on Wednesday 21st June. His death was announced by Paul Kurtz, founder and chairman of the Center for Inquiry and Council for Secular Humanism."

Strangely, Bullough and another accused pedophile named Dr. Ralph Underwager (founder of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation), both died not long after allegations regarding their alleged pedophilia became public.

"Perhaps the most disturbing charges heard by the committee were provided by Dr. Reisman, who documented that the "founder" of the "Center for Sex Research," Dr. Vern Bullough, was a self-admitted pedophile as an editor of the very academic Journal of Pedophilia. Dr. Reisman, whose research spans 30 years, was also able to point out to the California legislators a score of other pedophiles and pedophile advocates on the porno conference "faculty." Their pedophilia is something these otherwise respectable gentlemen do not boast of in public. In fact, Dr. Reisman presented an original copy of the Journal of Pedophilia in which Ungerwager, speaking on the California State University-sponsored child pornography panel, declared:


Pedophiles can boldly and courageously affirm what they choose. They can say that what they want is to find the best way to love ... an acceptable expression of God's will for love and unity among human beings. It may take people being arrested. Revolutionaries have always risked arrest."

So what if Baba is a Homo sexual.There are many Homosexuals in this world and Baba has taken up their cause.Its not wrong.

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You can grow up anytime usedcrybaby. Falsifying other peoples names and statements is called fraud.

----sb's credo-'Pedophiles can boldly and courageously affirm what they choose. They can say that what they want is to find the best way to love ... an acceptable expression of God's will for love and unity among human beings."

There is nothing intrinsically wrong with being a homosexual, it is a natural occurrence in the whole animal world,due to sex switches in reincarnation. Their practises are somewhat unusual but gay pedophilia is another thing altogether, and something that sb practises.

I challenge sb and sai org to sue me.

sb is a gay molestor, murderer, embezzler, fraud, liar and cheat. His trust are stealing money hand over fist, and that is why they are always starting new projects.

sue me!!pleeeaaase.

Just for the record, the "Joe Moreno" who commented on this board is not me. It is the psychologically unstable defamer "usedbybaba", who hides behind numerous fake names (50+ and counting). These are the weirdos, clowns, and Anti-Sai Nutters who are trying to "expose" Sathya Sai Baba. It's about time everyone see their lamentable behavior and what type of individuals are behind the Anti-Sai Movement.

It's about time :-)

• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed




• Anthony "Tony" O'Clery Exposed




• Barry Pittard Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"