From Rationalistinternational.net: India: Tsunami bishops trouble Tamil Nadu

The south Indian state of Tamil Nadu may have the worldwide highest rate of churches per capita. Though only a small minority of people call themselves Christians, there are said to be as many as 1500 independent Christian churches represented in the Independent Churches of India Association in Chennai (earlier Madras). Most of them belong to the huge and ever-growing group of evangelical churches that are founded and supported from abroad. Some are Anglican or Orthodox splinter groups. Many are Pentecostals of different origin. They have names like Calvari Mission Trust or Halleluyah Full Gospel Missionaries of India. Though quite tiny and never heard of, many of these independent churches have their own bishops. Nobody knows exactly, how many robed men are roaming around, who has appointed them and who is paying them.

Edited by author 02-21-2007 09:10 AM
CO2000:Like I've said before, criminal accusations must be addressed in COURT.
Rationalist international.net :"In December 2005, I have written a letter to President Dr. Abdul Kalam, which was never answered. It demanded criminal investigations against Sai Baba. "If Sai Baba's social development projects are meant to be indulgence to nullify his crimes, this procedure is unprecedented and unacceptable", I wrote. "It is a shame for India that well-founded accusations and numerous reputed witnesses against Sai Baba are ignored without any investigation. Do saffron clothes make an offender untouchable for the law? Do we have to tolerate that political protectionism raises its head so boldly, mocking India's democracy?" I asked in my letter.

FRom rationalist international.net -The aging godman stands accused of sexual abuse of minors among his devotees. Numerous cases of victims from India and abroad have come to light. Though Indian authorities seem still far away from opening a trial against the well-connected offender, too many victims and witnesses - mainly from Europe and USA - have broken their silence to further ignore his crimes. Some of their statements are recorded in articles that appeared in the London based The Daily Telegraph and in the film documentary "Seduced by Sai Baba", produced by the Danish State Television. In 2000, UNESCO washed its hands off Sai Baba by deciding neither to sponsor nor take part in a conference it had been planning to organize along with the Institute of Sathya Sai Education (ISSE, Thailand) and The Flinders University Institute of International Education (Australia), in Puttaparthi, India.

Edited by author 02-21-2007 09:01 AM

India deserves a (more) dignified and responsible President

http://www.rationalistinternational.net/

From CO2000 -Metals and gems in Hinduism have great spiritual significance, protection and healing powers

FromCNN IBN -He giving gold gifts with shop markings.

Edited by author 02-21-2007 06:02 AM
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Usedbybaba why are you posting as truth seeker? Even Priddy sounds smarter than you if not by much.

You are a very ignorant person.

Jesus, who went to India, also claimed he was God and all men were God. Was he a fraud?

What about people like YOU who continually murder the truth and seek to kill the spirit of man which is worse? There was no proof of cheating on camera, you are lying once again. Baba didn't murder anyone you liar.

Like I've said before, criminal accusations must be addressed in COURT. The fact that you cowards can do nothing but hang out on the internet and whine like the crybabies you are for YEARS ON END speaks volumns as to your lack of PROOF of any of your ridiculous claims. You are in bed with the racists and the atheists who abhor freedom of religion (even though the dummies themselves benefit from the freedom to practice their non religion without being ridiculed or persecuted...while they ridicule and persecute others for their beliefs...how smart is that?) and you are echoing their drum beat like you are their kith and kin. Whine all you want about peoples beliefs regarding God but unless a person commits a crime their beliefs are sacrosanct (even YOURS regarding Baba no matter how misguided and idiotic).
So, instead of whining us to boredom, if you think Baba is a fraud put up or shut up and prove it in court, cowards. Even Kreydick, who had the courage to state his convictions UNDER OATH in the U.S. is more courageous than all of you nitwits put together. You had the chance to prove yourselves there and you cowered and ran away.

Once again you show you are an ignoramus who is obvously NOT a Hindu. Metals and gems in Hinduism have great spiritual significance, protection and healing powers so once again you show you are a greedy materialist who thinks only of money. Your remark is the type of superficial and callous remark a racist would make.

Edited by author 02-21-2007 01:08 AM
From CNN IBN It is definetly sin according to section 420 to fool people saying he is incarnation of GOD. Was he not caught on camera cheating. Sin is the murders most foul in his ashram. He giving gold gifts with shop markings.

Edited by author 02-29-2008 12:27 AM
It is obvious the anti-Sais in general do NOT have the ability to process data. Some of this is sheer stupidity and some of it is intentional on their part. Such as the blatant lies, etc. They should also add "inability to ASK intelligent questions" to this definition.

Alcoholism/drug abuse (whether past or present) and dishonesty are two of the main reasons.

Another reason could also be bribery.


Main Entry: dumb
Pronunciation: 'd&m
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English; akin to Old High German tumb mute

6 a : lacking intelligence : STUPID b : showing a lack of intelligence <asking dumb questions> c : requiring no intelligence (dumb luck)
7 : not having the capability to process data (a dumb terminal)



Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 02-20-2007 10:08 PM
/m2271

Well, one thing we know for sure, James (or Sanjay playing his multiple personality mind games), the intelligence which runs your body and keeps you alive is much smarter than you are.

We can also see you are an expert at mocking people You must have taken Mocking 101 in college. Your mother must be very proud of you and your great brain.

Edited by author 03-05-2008 07:05 AM
/m2270

Where is the PROOF Baba is a hermaphrodite who can withdraw his testicles? I know in your fairytale world and drunken mind imaginings he can do this but really we are dealing with the REAL world here, not Ickian nonsense you have learned from your wackadoodle fascist friends.


I have more proof that you are a sexual pervert (out of your own disgusting mouth) than I do that Baba studied hypnotism or is a hermaphrodite. If the dummies making the accusations could actually prove Baba was a hermaphrodite in court (which would be monumental evidence in a molestation trial), they would have NO problem proving they were sexually approached now would they bozo? So why are they not doing it since they claim to want to put Baba behind bars so badly? Do you realize how dumb you appear to those who actually know how to use their brain for something besides a hat rack? You guys are ALL talk and NO walk. You are ALL hot air balloons who just cannot back up your stupid and irresponsible accusations with EVEN ONE IOTA of PROOF.

Funny that you cannot discern your OWN silly mind imaginings Tony, also known as your fairytale mentality. Doesn't surprise me that a pathological liar like you feels compelled to enable other schizophrenics and pathological liars who live in their own fantasy world! You feel that you are the ONLY special ones who know the truth about Sai Baba (too funny). If you weren't so arrogant, headstrong and downright evil, I might feel pity for you and your delusion.

You must also be deaf and dumb as you obviously don't LISTEN or want to LISTEN. You just want to run your mouth 24/7. You act like a typical obnoxious drunk.

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Lest I repeat myself:

Tony, WHY are you so DUMB and dishonest (trying to mislead people)?

First of all, I asked Priddy the question, NOT you. I don't want to hear your ridiculous drivel as I've already listened to it. I'm confronting Priddy with his obvious idiocy and I deserve an explanation after having to listen to his hate speech and lies for so long. I'd like to know why a person who claims he is a "scholar," (who pretends to be a psychologist when he is merely a philosopher) is buying into this garbage about supernaturally morphing genitalia. I'm asking the so-called "rationalists" the same question but they are busy hiding out somewhere lest they show the egg on their faces.

You are not an expert on hypnotism Tony so please quit trying to act like one. Hypnotism cannot create REAL objects and there is NO REAL world data proving Baba EVER studied hypnotism. If you are going to make irresponsible accusations you better be prepared to back them up with some actual EVIDENCE. The REAL world data very clearly indicates these people making accusations are habitual liars (like you, Priddy, Pittard and Dadlani) who feed off of one anothers illness. No speculation needed. Where is your healthy scepticism and requirement for PROOF Tony baloney? Why are you such hypocrites when it comes to this issue and your double standard regarding scepticism? You hear a ridiculous story and you automatically believe it because it suits your hate campaign.

Since WHEN do sex pervs play magic tricks with their prey (twenty-some year old men) dumbos? And you have not explained how Baba is supposedly making his penis disappear and REAPPEAR! You seem to conveniently FORGET people are saying it is THERE and then it isn't THERE. A penis would leave a lump no matter where it is and it cannot be higher on the body so quit trying to play doctor. Nobody who claims to have seen his thing said it was higher on the body you dolt. Why are you dummies so bent on speculating like idiots just to try and be "right"? That is so immature it is disgusting. Now grow up and get a life.

It is pathetic listening to a wacko like you constantly driveling your drunken nonsense! This is what happens when pseudo-intellectuals like you have no evidence to prove your idiotic drivel. You start creating all kinds of idiotic theories (mind imaginings as you call them) and conspiracies like the gullible "true believers" that you are. Go do the Twelve Step Alcoholics Anonymous program Tony so you can learn to think like an adult and take responsibility for your idiocy. Your fairytale mentality doesn't cut it in the REAL world Tony.



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These are not conversations, and they cannot be carried on with people who see other dead people. That's too funny. I haven't got a clue what you guys are all talking about but its pretty funny. If there's dead people involved then its even funnier. I expect you believe in God as well?

To a person who is hypnotised real is perception, the material stuff he actually just conjurs and admits it himself.

The secret of the morphing genitals is simply this. sb is a hermaphrodite with both genitalia. He apparently can withdraw his scrotum like the karate experts can. This would leave his vagina and penis. His penis is quite diminutive, and odd shape, and no doubt is higher on his abdomen due to his having male and female sexual organs. So guiding a hand to below the penis would give the impression of morphing.
Remember sb talked in his discourse about ateeta sakti or group hypnotism, often seen on stage shows. He actually did this one time convincing people they saw a monkey appear, shrink and disappear. I actually talked to one of the people present. So having one's mind influenced by him in a confined space is no big deal, neither is hypnotism.

Edited by author 02-20-2007 03:08 PM
Spamming the board with comments people make about Sai Baba in newspapers is just another form of cheap propaganda. Get a life, Priddy et al.

Racists like you are a dime a dozen. In the end, nobody listens to you because they see how SELFISH, shallow, dishonest and downright evil you are.

Edited by author 02-28-2008 11:55 PM
/m2253

Tony, WHY are you so DUMB and dishonest (trying to mislead people)?

First of all, I asked Priddy the question, NOT you. I don't want to hear your ridiculous drivel as I've already listened to it. I'm confronting Priddy with his obvious idiocy and I deserve an explanation after having to listen to his hate speech and lies for so long. I'd like to know why a person who claims he is a "scholar," (who pretends to be a psychologist when he is merely a philosopher) is buying into this garbage about supernaturally morphing genitalia. I'm asking the so-called "rationalists" the same question but they are busy hiding out somewhere lest they show the egg on their faces.

You are not an expert on hypnotism Tony so please quit trying to act like one. Hypnotism cannot create REAL objects and there is NO REAL world data proving Baba EVER studied hypnotism. If you are going to make irresponsible accusations you better be prepared to back them up with some actual EVIDENCE. The REAL world data very clearly indicates these people making accusations are habitual liars (like you, Priddy, Pittard and Dadlani) who feed off of one anothers illness. No speculation needed. Where is your healthy scepticism and requirement for PROOF Tony baloney? Why are you such hypocrites when it comes to this issue and your double standard regarding scepticism? You hear a ridiculous story and you automatically believe it because it suits your hate campaign.

Since WHEN do sex pervs play magic tricks with their prey (twenty-some year old men) dumbos? And you have not explained how Baba is supposedly making his penis disappear and REAPPEAR! You seem to conveniently FORGET people are saying it is THERE and then it isn't THERE. A penis would leave a lump no matter where it is and it cannot be higher on the body so quit trying to play doctor. Nobody who claims to have seen his thing said it was higher on the body you dolt. Why are you dummies so bent on speculating like idiots just to try and be "right"? That is so immature it is disgusting. Now grow up and get a life.

It is pathetic listening to a wacko like you constantly driveling your drunken nonsense! This is what happens when pseudo-intellectuals like you have no evidence to prove your idiotic drivel. You start creating all kinds of idiotic theories (mind imaginings as you call them) and conspiracies like the gullible "true believers" that you are. Go do the Twelve Step Alcoholics Anonymous program Tony so you can learn to think like an adult and take responsibility for your idiocy. Your fairytale mentality doesn't cut it in the REAL world Tony.



Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Guys wake up. Politicians are just trying to raise silly issues to increase their importance. What baba said was "Unity is good for the country" is this wrong ? People are nuts to follow self centered politicians and be used by them as pwans.