Edited by author 05-18-2007 02:21 AM
/m2189, /m2187

Tony, you are the dummy who does NOT know what he is talking about.

JIVA The individual soul and incarnated Atma(n).
JIVAMUKTA (Lit., liberated while living) One who is liberated in this life while still in the body.
JIVAN Literally: living being. The individual soul which in essence is one with the Universal Soul.

Mukthi is impossible for those addicted to lust.--Shirdi Sai Baba

You have a pretty bad level of vocab. Think of something interesting to say other than calling people dumbos.

Edited by author 02-18-2007 07:47 PM
/m2194

Exactly. Many people have stated that they also saw Sai Baba in dreams before they even knew who he was.

Of course, now Tony will claim that Baba is a demon (roll eyes).

I think i remember from some documentary that L.H. said she saw Sb in a dream before she met him,she recognized his face on some picture in some friends house and said it was a man from her dreams.

Edited by author 02-19-2007 12:17 AM
/m2192, /m2187

The thing is, Angel, that many people like me who initially see Shirdi, do not even know who he is at the time we see him so we have NO preconceptions about who he is. Later, it is only when we hear about him or see him in a photo that we realize who he is.

The stuff that Tony is babbling about totally contradicts the Bhagavad-Gita and other authoritative Hindu scriptures. All scriptures teach that the soul is immortal. Hindu scriptures teach that Avatars DO incarnate and take form as humans in order to help mankind.

"Even though myself unborn, of changeless essence, and the lord of all existence, yet in presiding over nature -- which is mine -- I am born but through my own maya (5), the mystic power of self-ideation, the eternal thought in the eternal mind. (6) I produce myself among creatures, O son of Bharata, whenever there is a decline of virtue and an insurrection of vice and injustice in the world; and thus I incarnate from age to age for the preservation of the just, the destruction of the wicked, and the establishment of righteousness. Whoever, O Arjuna, knoweth my divine birth and actions to be even so doth not upon quitting his mortal frame enter into another, for he entereth into me. Many who were free from craving, fear, and anger, filled with my spirit, and who depended upon me, having been purified by the ascetic fire of knowledge, have entered into my being. In whatever way men approach me, in that way do I assist them; but whatever the path taken by mankind, that path is mine..."--Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita, Chapter 4


Apparently Tony's neo-fascist cult does not believe this and he is busy denigrating others, invalidating their very sacred spiritual experiences and trying to force his beliefs down everyone elses throat, whether they like it or not. Such is the nature of fascism.

Shirdi Baba is either a mukti or he is not. If he is a mukti there is no personality or ego to take form any form.
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i don't think it matters what they are.It matters how they're perceived.

Edited by author 03-12-2008 04:24 AM
/m2187, /m2189

Tony you don't know what you are talking about. Quit trying to play guru to people on this board. Go start your own weirdo cult.


JIVA The individual soul and incarnated Atma(n).
JIVAMUKTA (Lit., liberated while living) One who is liberated in this life while still in the body.
JIVAN Literally: living being. The individual soul which in essence is one with the Universal Soul.

Mukthi is impossible for those addicted to lust.--Shirdi Sai Baba

"You are right you will have to forgive my unsophistication. You see before I had any tertiary edu, I was a construction worker, cane-cutter, australian gigolo, union man, and surfer. Heaven for me was 'surfs up', and 'out the back', on Aussie beaches."--Tony O'Clery


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 07-23-2007 06:31 AM
/m2187

Tony, why don't you just admit to everyone that you are an atheist and a fascist and make it easy on yourself? Everytime you open your big phony mouth you reveal how shallow and crooked you are.

For your info, Joe has also stated that he has seen Shirdi. Many other people have stated that they have seen Shirdi in his physical body, fool.

Remember too that YOU are the one who keeps claiming he possesses supernatural abilities but constantly talks like an obsessive sexual pervert.

You are sickening Tony. Get it through your thick head, you are NOT a guru and you are not a role model. You are a pathological liar and a PERVERT. Now get a life and mind your own business before you end up in jail.


Tony O'Clery Vandalises Wikipedia with His Libelous and Perverted Comments

Tony O'Clery, who has an account at Wikipedia under the name aoclery, added the following libelous comments to the article about Sathya Sai Baba. He attempted to hide his identity by not signing in to his account.

"He also admits to pedophilia but says that as he is
God they are paying off their karma quickly."


After confronting Tony with his libelous vandalism, he does it again!


"...he also says his pedophilia is good for they pay the karma off quicker as he is god..."

Tony also vandalises the Benjamin Creme article:

"He also says it is true that sai baba is a pedophile but that he is paying off people's karma quicker, by assaulting them as he is God."

Someone reverts Tony's vandalism and Tony comes back and does it again:

"He also says it is true that sai baba is a pedophile but that he is paying off people's karma quicker, by assaulting them as he is God, according to top officials in the sai org. "


Tony even confesses:

2856 Tony O'Clery 03-24-2007 07:40 PM ET (US)
I have put that comment on every article referring to sb in wikipedia,,go find them fill your boots.

sb org says he molests as god curing karma.
 
Cornered like a rat, Tony tries a new lie:

"A former official of the sai organisation, Tony O'Clery, has stated that they were told to state that the sexual touching and pedophilia were to help with the subjects karma, as Sai Baba was 'God'."





TONY O'CLERY EXPOSED

"You are right you will have to forgive my unsophistication. You see before I had any tertiary edu, I was a construction worker, cane-cutter, australian gigolo, union man, and surfer. Heaven for me was 'surfs up', and 'out the back', on Aussie beaches."--Tony O'Clery

Angelic wrote---you're an expert.SB appeared to Hawleys ,they both saw him.
You can hear them talking about it here..

Namaste,

Shirdi Baba is either a mukti or he is not. If he is a mukti there is no personality or ego to take form any form.

Edited by author 02-18-2007 04:48 PM
you're an expert?
SB appeared to Hawleys ,they both saw him.
You can hear them talking about it here..
http://www.putfile.com/unity99/media

You really have a serious problem, take Joe's advice and get some help, before its too late.

Shirdi can only appear in people's visions, for their own higher self, for he was a Mukta and has merged.

Edited by author 07-22-2007 10:45 PM
/m2183

Yes, actually, I have. Shirdi Sai Baba has appeared to me in his actual physical body several times (to give me darshan or protection) whereas Sathya Sai has only appeared to me in his spiritual body. On the other hand, I have many dreams of Sathya Sai Baba helping me and only recently have I had a few dreams of Shirdi.

If you are curious why don't you ask Shirdi? Surely if you believe in him he will answer.

The site I posted is a group of people in Harrow England who have experienced that Sathya And Shirdi are the same. I suppose you could write and ask them why they believe.

In the miracle photos, there is one photo where you can see Sai Baba materialized in the photo and he is waving!

See also the photo gallery at: SaiSruti.org.uk

I saw the photo of Baba's birth day.It is not colour vibhithi.It is colour powder.In Maharashtra it is called Rangoli.How can this happen in so many places.I am confused.

If you feel that I am usedbysathysai, you need not answer me. I am not angry,but I don't want to make you uncomfortable.

Have you experienced this.Can you tell me who has.I have experienced the power of God but I can't say,I have experiened anything more.I pray to Shirdi Baba daily and I am very comfortable.I've not seen Sathya Sai.Not even in dreams. I wonder why he is not guiding me to Sathya sai.

Edited by author 02-18-2007 05:40 AM
/m2181


Meera, I think you are usedbybaba playing his usual mind games but I am going to humor you. One wonders why you are so hung up on whether Sathya and Shirdi are the same. What do you care unless it affects you personally?

It is not a matter of "proving" anything. As with God it is a matter of experiencing. You have not experienced that the two are the same but others say they have. You cannot prove they haven't. You can also not prove God does or doesn't exist to others.


Sai Sruti Harrow Temple Miracle Photos