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01-14-2007 02:14 PM ET (US)
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http://www.babaji.ca/NewSite/babaji.htmMy friend or roomate in India visited with Babaji and she said he was told the entire world will overheat and many would die. Much like al gore and lovelock are saying today.
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01-14-2007 02:04 PM ET (US)
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#2 No nuclear war but great nuclear accident. Well as he said that in 1985 he was right there with Chernobyl.
Prophecy #9 from 'sb'l
USA land of immorality and sin and corruption.
#10. 70% of usa will disappear in terms of manpower and landmass.
#34. Iran and other Muslim nations will burn their oil and so bring to an end the modern machine age.
#12. Singapore, San Francisco will disappear forever, safe lands are Australia, NZ,South India.
#5. 25% of world will die in 1999.......well that's a miss!
#7.on that day world will become overheated like being cooked.
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01-14-2007 01:56 PM ET (US)
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Actually the future maps that Charlie Toh brought to the centre some years ago in the 90s are very similar to those in Al Gore's movie 'An inconvenient truth'. sb's future maps are much more dramatic, well actually the maps of somebody else that sb claims are his..Tony.
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01-14-2007 12:03 PM ET (US)
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sb claimed to be a snake, and was run over and supposedly showed the tyre marks on his body. He claims to be a shape shifter reptilian and otherwise hahahah..
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01-14-2007 12:01 PM ET (US)
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Actually I still have a copy of sb's so called prophecies. Actually my friend Charlie Toh was the one who brought the future stuff to the centre,in the first place. I repeated what Babaji and sb had written and told John the Rolfer to add weight to Charlie's statements.
I mean it was pretty good wasn't it?
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01-14-2007 05:15 AM ET (US)
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Hi Bye
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01-14-2007 02:43 AM ET (US)
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Hey usedbybaba,
I haven't been posting here much, but I see that you and Tony are writing some great posts. Barbara and I have been posting on saiexposananda's site because there aren't any psychopath biker babe stalkers there. If you ever get tired of listening to the endless garbage that the toxic pond scum here is posting (like breathless and moron...a.k.a. Lisa and Joe or is it lisajoe or joelisa or the breatlessmoron?) Anyway, I just had to jump over to this board to say hello to you and let you know that I think you're doing great work.
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01-13-2007 07:33 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 03-11-2008 08:45 PM
/m1808Tony was bringing so-called psychics' future predictions of doom and gloom "natural disaster" maps to the Sai center that had nothing to do with Sai Baba. And he was preaching David Icke's reptilian doom and gloom conspiracies, including baloney about the Bushes being, human sacrificing, blood-drinking reptilians. People like Tony and David Icke are wacko-magnets for paranoid schizophrenics like Barbara Dent (aka Carolyn/kickbaabaaa), Dan Winter and others in the anti-Sai crowd who have great difficulty separating fact from fiction. Roll eyes. Baba isn't claiming to be a reptile you doofus and liar. You are twisting things just like your sociopathic friend Dadlani does. Why are you SO dishonest and dense Tony? You keep getting confused with your friend Icke's ridiculous tosh. Do you EVER think about how dumb you might sound to people who actually have a brain? So are you FINALLY admitting you don't believe in Avatars or what? Really, I'd like to know because you claim to be an advaitan but all you are preaching is negativism with a twist of hell, fire and brimstone and anything else negative you can get your hands on thrown in with it. You are not even close to being an advaitan or you'd shut your big fat mouth and mind your own business for once. Make up your mind which belief system you are going to go with dumbo. And if you want to be so preachy, go find yourself a congregation of paranoid, cult-like zombies like yourself to preach to. Your idiotic comments about spirits show you don't understand advaita at ALL Tony. You are a dunce. Even a guru couldn't straighten you out because your mind is so warped. And your looney tune version of reality is about as intelligent as the cartoon world you live in Tony. Keep your doomsday fantasyland to yourself. ************ "Baseless suspiciousness moving to the level of deep and firm conviction is the hallmark of the situation of paranoid patients. These patients keep harbouring and exhibiting strong beliefs against known and unknown people. They feel so strongly about their "beliefs" that they are not willing to budge even slightly from these or hear anything against these.
They have unshakable trust in the reality of their thoughts. Consequently, their life is completely governed by such beliefs. They develop many changes in their thought process, emotions and behaviour.
What constitutes paranoid symptoms?
Psychiatrists diagnose a patient paranoid (suffering from a psychotic disorder) when they find that they have lost contact with reality and live in their own world which is dominated by firmly held but completely false and baseless beliefs. Their beliefs may vary from the functioning of parts of their own body, the behaviour of other people or the control of natural and supernatural forces."Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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01-13-2007 04:01 PM ET (US)
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Lisa de witt....wrote/ Too funny. Tony the "true believer" just can't understand that he sounds like a very paranoid cult-like automaton when he babbles like this. No wonder they booted him out of the org. with doom and gloom drivel like this (which I hear was Tony's forte) and Icke's reptilian conspiracies! You are really "out there" Tony.<<<<<<<
Namaste,
Actually I was just repeating the 'doom and gloom' that Babaji told a friend of mine and the same as sb told John the Rolfer at pn. That there would be climate change and global warming, rising sea levels.
sb was claiming to be a reptile long before Icke became known....Tony.
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01-12-2007 06:03 PM ET (US)
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/m1806Too funny. Tony the "true believer" just can't understand that he sounds like a very paranoid cult-like automaton when he babbles like this. No wonder they booted him out of the org. with doom and gloom drivel like this (which I hear was Tony's forte) and Icke's reptilian conspiracies! You are really "out there" Tony. Nobody with a brain believes Tony's cultish drivel. He sounds like a Jim Jones clone. Drink your kool-aid Tony. Drink your own cyanide-laced kool-aid. Nobody else wants it. "Paranoia strikes deep. Into your mind it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid..."
Alcoholic paranoia:
Chronic alcoholics often become suspicious or violent. They may also start having hallucinatory experiences. Many alcoholics express serious doubts about the character of their wives. Psychologists blame impotence, a common problem of alcoholics, for the underlying basis of the ideas of infidility. Chronic alcoholics also have many other paranoid delusions.
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01-12-2007 11:49 AM ET (US)
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Die in sai and become a captive slave on the astral like his mother and iris murphet, whose ghosts regualarly visit the ashram, according to sb.
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01-11-2007 09:07 PM ET (US)
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/m1803No, I haven't read any of "Ghardia's" books. You can't even get his name right. It's Dr. Gadhia, Tony. Who can believe someone who can't even get a simple thing like a person's name right? The point is, you are still being a hypocrite and trying to avoid the mote floating around in your own eye Tony. In fact, your hypocrisy regarding your buddy David Icke and his fraud (see /m1802) highlights my point about you being a racist. Apparently you are still too dumb to get it. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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01-11-2007 07:41 PM ET (US)
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Hello G'night
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01-11-2007 11:37 AM ET (US)
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Lisa wrote;>Sorry Tony, I don't remember Sai Baba EVER claiming such a thing.<
That's because you haven't read any of Dr Ghardia's books, or obviously any of the other books that sb mentions this stuff. He even wrote some in the sanathan sarathi.
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01-10-2007 08:15 PM ET (US)
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/m1800Sorry Tony, I don't remember Sai Baba EVER claiming such a thing. Are you sure this isn't just another one of your wild imaginings like the brothel and photo tales and the penis baloney? And WHY aren't you concerned about your looney friend David Icke and his FRAUDULENT claims about the British Royal Family and the Bushes being alien reptilian, blood-drinking shape shifters when he has been raking in dirty money selling books all over the world to susceptible true believers like you who bought into his malarky hook, line and sinker? In your world I guess fraud is ok if it's one of your friends doing it? And what about the freaky pedophile priests in the Catholic church? Suspiciously, we haven't heard ONE peep from you, the biggest whiner of all, or any of your Catholic anti-Sai cohorts about all the victims in the Catholic church. Don't you wonder if any of those perverts ever gave you communion with those dirty hands (God only knows WHERE those hands have been before they put that communion wafer in your mouth...maybe it rubbed off on you given your behavior)? And apparently none of you care that those involved in the massive cover-up have basically destroyed the church's credibility with their subversive behavior. Apparently fraud and pedophilia are ok in the anti-Sai crowd as long as you are a "white guy". Tony must have banged his head.
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01-10-2007 02:34 PM ET (US)
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And Tony Bologna O'Clery has admitted he is a pathological liar who falsely tries to associate pedophiles with the Sai Org. Tsk.
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01-10-2007 12:19 PM ET (US)
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sb claims he morphed into a snake form, into four black africans, into an entourage of people, etc etc. So his claims to be a shape shifter are out of his own mouth and recorded.
sb also has admitted that not all the stuff he 'materialises' is by him, but that he brings stuff from a store.( he actually conjures all but it is interesting to see him admit he doesn't 'materialise' every item).
sb has admitted easwaramma is a captive astral spirit and still visits the ashram with iris murphet and lot of other astral beings, without MOKSHA.
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01-10-2007 11:15 AM ET (US)
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Edited by author 01-10-2007 11:17 AM
Tony Bologna O'Clery forgot to mention that the very people who coined the phrase " true believer syndrome" explicitly professed a belief in life after death, good-mediums, psychic phenomena, ESP and God after making their case against "true believer syndrome". Since Sathya Sai Baba has never openly acknowledged that he fakes miracles or manifestations, the term "true beliver syndrome" cannot apply to him or his devotees because "true believer syndrome" exclusively applies to events that have been openly faked (with a full admission of fraud). Tony, you want some more mustard on that bolgona sandwich?
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01-09-2007 09:29 PM ET (US)
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/m1796What a ridiculous comment, Tony. How can a penis be "withdrawn" DOWN into the crotch and concealed? You are talking about TESTICLES being withdrawn. A penis CANNOT be concealed unless TAPED down. It is a physical impossibility for a man to control his penis in the way you are implying Mr. "True Believer" (roll eyes). You should know this considering you were hanging out with tranvestites. Unbelievable. Do you EVER use your brain?
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01-09-2007 07:58 PM ET (US)
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/m1796WHY are you such a perpetual liar, Tony? Your writings about Sai Baba and comments about reptilians were all over David Icke's site until he was sued for defamation and it mysteriously disappeared. You have been shown this DOCUMENTED information regarding the accusers morphing genitalia claims umpteen times and STILL you are lying about it. Talk about "true believer" syndrome. Tony is one of the most culty types in his group of hatemongers. No matter how many times one shows him the truth he is still like a blind man who refuses to take off his self-created blinders so he can see. Pathetic. One does have to wonder why Tony is so hell bent on pushing his lies. Is Tony just a very stupid man with a gigantic ego or is it something more nefarious like he is being paid for his subversion of truth? After all, Tony wrote that his business went under (and claimed he lost millions of dollars) shortly before he started his hate campaign against Sai Baba. In a Dutch article entitled "De Wonderdoener", written by Piet van der Eijk, Keith Ord personally claimed that Sathya Sai Baba was not a hermaphrodite, but literally morphed his genitals from male to female. Keith Ord said (translated from Dutch):"Unexpectedly he took my trousers down and he tried to excite me sexually. He took my hand and placed it on his sexual organ. Then I noticed that Sai Baba was ambiguous: he was not half-woman half-man, not a hermaphrodite, no. From one moment to the next, he changed from a man to a woman completely, with the sexual organs of each. Do not ask me how this is possible, but I have experienced it. It must also be a kind of miracle. Obviously Sai Baba lives on another level than ordinary mortals." Alexandra Nagel repeated Keith Ord's "genital switch" story in her paper "Sai Baba as Shiva-Shakti: a Created Myth? Or?". In this paper, Nagel did not refer to Ord by name but confirmed to me that she was referring to him. Nagel said: "At a certain moment during the last private interview, Sai Baba had seized my friend's hand and made him touch Baba's groin. The first time this was done a penis was felt through the thin fabric of his robe. (It was not a skin to skin contact.) The second time he was invited to touch, he hadn't felt a penis there was something there that felt like a vagina." A first-hand witness to Keith Ord's lies: ON A PERSONAL NOTE On November 25th 2005, Keith Ord emailed me and said he would clarify the inconsistencies in the stories he related about Sathya Sai Baba. To date, he has not emailed me again with any clarifications. It might surprise some to hear that I personally met Keith Ord, in the early 90's, when he had his 3 interviews with Sathya Sai Baba. Keith started a fashion trend at Puttaparthi by making shirts out of sari material. Keith and I had about 4 in-depth and private talks, about his interviews with Sathya Sai Baba, and he never mentioned anything about Baba oiling him, embracing him or transforming his genitalis from male to female, etc. However, Keith did talk to me about his disenfranchisment with Baba and continually compared and contrasted Sathya Sai Baba with Jesus. Keith made it clear he was a devoted Catholic and continually praised Jesus in our private conversations. Although our talks were private, and Keith was very open and blunt about his disenfranchisement with Baba, he never alluded to any sort of sexual impropriety with Baba. Not even once. Sathya Sai Baba manifested a silvery-type, rectangular lotus ring (with an enamel picture in the center) for Keith that was initially so loose on his finger, it kept slipping off. As Keith's disenfranchisement with Sathya Sai Baba strenghened, the ring became tighter and tighter to the point that Keith could no longer remove the ring. I saw the ring myself and Keith's inability to remove it. It is important to point out that Keith and I had our in-depth and private talks after his 3 interviews in which he later claimed that Sathya Sai Baba touched him inappropriately and that SSB literally tranformed his genitals from male to female. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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01-09-2007 06:51 PM ET (US)
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The only person I know who claims to morph into reptiles is sb, who claims he was a snake, on one occasion, for whatever reason. I believe that sb is a hermaphrodite and may have the hatha yoga/martial arts trick of being able to withdraw his genitals into his body.
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01-09-2007 06:48 PM ET (US)
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/m1794Yes, Tony should apply this to himself as he is the one pushing David Icke's reptilian nonsense as well as other ridiculous paranormal nonsense (and lies) about demons. Also, Tony believes accusers who claim Sai Baba's genitalia supernaturally morphed from male to female! Tony tries to rationalize the accusers lies as hermaphrodism but hermaphrodism has absolutely nothing to do with their "supernatural" claims of morphing genitalia. Once again, Tony has been caught trying to put a square peg in a round hole and come out looking like a block head. Grow up Tony, you sound like a perpetual drunk.
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True-believer syndrome From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search True-believer syndrome is a term coined by M. Lamar Keene in his 1976 book The Psychic Mafia referring to an irrational belief in paranormal events, even after direct confession or evidence that the events were fraudulently staged. Keene, himself a reformed fraud medium,[1] exposed a number of other psychics, faith healers, and miracle workers; yet their followers only grew stronger. Keene came to see this inability to recognize fraud as a cognitive disorder.[2] He believed that the true-believer syndrome "merits study by science" and is the greatest thing PHONY mediums have going for them.[3] While the psychology of religion does study irrationality, the term "true believer syndrome" is not an accepted scientific term and mainstream psychologists, psychiatrists or doctors do not consider irrationality a cognitive disorder.
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01-09-2007 12:42 PM ET (US)
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Tony 'Bologna' O'Clery admits he still suffers from "true-believer syndrome"! Too funny! You just don't get it? Do you, Tony? On one hand, you can't be saying you don't suffer from "true believer syndrome" and on the other hand, profess belief in all these things. You try to present yourself as a rational and logical person (doing a very poor job at it, by the way) and you are utterly unconvincing considering that you hear voices in your head, claim you see dead people and claim that you enter demon trances! Keep babbling. It's very entertaining. QUOTABLE-QUOTES:Anthony 'Tony' O'Clery:"Stand in front of the mirror masturbating and think of sb, really think hard about him doing fellatio on you. You will first notice a big pair of rubber lips appearing in the astral then sb will be with you, inviting you to pn so you can be anally penetrated." (Reference)
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01-09-2007 11:38 AM ET (US)
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sb backs tony up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
The story on hiranyakasipu being able to send ships to the stars and manipulate matter, is also mentioned by sb in the sanathan sarathi magazine. Asral forms particularly of his mother are also stated by sb to be visiting the ashram. I don't believe that Moksha or becoming Nir Guna is unconscious but beyond consciousness and the manifestation of mind.
Atlantis and Lemuria are mentioned in the Hindu Puranas by different names such as Aswin and Lanka or similar.
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01-09-2007 02:48 AM ET (US)
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/m1790The scariest thing about Tony is that he "TRULY believes" he is going to teach anyone anything about advaita when he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about. He reads a couple of pages on the internet and thinks he is suddenly an expert on advaita. The nutter of negativity and pervert can't even keep his mind out of the gutter for five minutes yet thinks he is guru material. Pathetic! Can you imagine a Vedic Priest talking about sex the way Tony does? They would probably stone him to death as soon as he opened his disgusting mouth! Tony O'Clery Banned from Advaitin Group
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Too funny~ Tony 'Bologna' O'Clery claims that he somehow broke free from his "true-believer syndrome" but still believes that he can see dead people and hear their voices in his head and that he enters demon trances. Tony O'Clery believes in: Atlantis and Lemuria, Edgar Cayce (a man called "The Sleeping Prophet" who had spirits speak through him), shape-shifting (literally changing one's physical body to that of an animal, bird, reptile or other creature), UFO's, aliens, alien abductions, reincarnation, black magic using semen, astral planes with astral beings, thought forms, psychic attacks, kundalini, psychics, mediums, karma, the mayan calendar apocalypse, talking to the dead (O'Cleary claimed he mentally spoke to and saw a dead person named "Eilish"), demon possession, channeling, prophecies, bilocation and believes that Hiranyakasipu (a mythological demon who is said to have existed millions of years ago) was able to manipulate matter completely and could create ships that could go to the stars! O'Clery believes that this mythological demon story can answer many questions about mankind's "roots"! Yeah. That sounds to me that Tony 'Bolonga' O'Clery doesn't suffer from "true believer syndrome". Not! lol QUOTABLE-QUOTES:Anthony 'Tony' O'Clery:"Stand in front of the mirror masturbating and think of sb, really think hard about him doing fellatio on you. You will first notice a big pair of rubber lips appearing in the astral then sb will be with you, inviting you to pn so you can be anally penetrated." (Reference)
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01-08-2007 11:56 PM ET (US)
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/m1786Tony, you seem to forget you were claiming to be a 'devotee' until the year 2000 and are documented singing Baba's praises on several internet message boards (see /m1779). Who can take a waffler like you seriously? Your gossip tales are just like usedcrybaby's. All talk and NO proof. No names of anyone who can corroborate your ridiculous stories. No evidence of any sort. Just a bunch of HATE babble from a drunk. Grow up Tony. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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/m1785Nobody else who has seen the amrit has changed their story Tony. A "glass" of amrit (which you describe in your testimonial (see /m1779)) could not possibly fit in that little amulet so either way you have LIED, as usual. Not only that but I have the video, Man of Miracles (see link below), narrated by Rod Serling which shows the amrit and it is documented on film. The person in the film flips the object over in his hand several times so you can see there is no "tube" attached to it. He also holds it for quite a long time and viewers cans see the amrit continues to pour out of it. You were NEVER a devotee Tony. You don't even begin to understand the meaning of the word. You are a "true believer" in your own lies and deceptions Tony. Apparently alcohol has done so much damage to your brain, you cannot even see your own lies and sickness. You are a VERY sick man Tony. VERY sick. You are TOTALLY in denial. You cannot even see that you are acting like a five year old, repeating the same childish tantrums over and over again for the whole world to see. The lies you are preaching have nothing to do with Baba at all. You are caught in your own alcoholic psychodrama and there you will stay until you die. What is amazing (and also VERY suspicious) is that in spite of the miraculous experiences most anti-Sais have admitted to experiencing, the minute they heard something negative they did not bother to question the accusers as to the veracity of those accusations. Not even ONE of them bothered to ask any tough questions. This is how much 'FAITH' they had in themselves and their own experiences. All they had to do was hear the dreaded word 'molestation' and they folded like a deck of cards, totally letting their fear or something else control them. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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/m1784The problem with your concept of moksha is that your previous statements reveal that you perceive nirguna brahman as a state of UNCONSCIOUSNESS! This is utterly ridiculous and shows you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about! Read some of Tony's drivel:Tony OClery 1313 08-03-2001 08:30 PM Ultimately I also do not believe in a creator god! That is Saguna and ultimately only Nirguna is true. In fact realisation will show there never was a creation or a you in the first place. ~~~~~~ It also shows that you don't bother to even TRY and think things out to see if they actually make sense! You just babble on trying to play guru when you have NO business trying to teach anyone anything about moksha since you do NOT understand it OR nirguna/saguna yourself. Nirguna is GOD dumbo! And so is nirguna + saguna since God EQUALS the SUM of ALL Truth (the absolute ENCOMPASSES/ INTERPENETRATES the phenomenal world) great and small. Moksha, or the liberation from body conciousness does NOT lead to a state of UNconsciousness bozo. It leads to the reunion with the Supreme or Godself and a state of OMNSCIENCE, OMNIPRESENCE and OMNIPOTENCE! Please quit trying to play guru Tony. You are STILL an unconscious alcoholic, NOT a guru. You are a white man trying to play guru, nothing more. Your statements CLEARLY show that you do NOT even acknowledge God and your behavior shows that, IN FACT, you have a very deep-seated hatred of God. Look at your own self-hatred Tony. You are caught in your own hate trap. All you preach is HATE Tony. HATE. HATE. HATE. You do NOT preach about LOVE or God Tony. Love and God are TOTALLY absent from your egoistic rantings. Tony O'Clery Banned from Advaitin Group********* From Sivananda on Moksha:The ultimate freedom which the soul attains in Moksha is one of omnipresence, omniscience, omnipotence and immortality, co-eternal with the Absolute. The Upanishads and the Bhagavad Gita declare that the soul, having attained liberation, does not return to mortal life. The liberated soul enters the Absolute, having been freed from spatio-temporal limitations of every kind. By restraint of the mind from indulgence in the temptations of life, by devotion to the Creator, and by knowledge that one's essential being is identical with the Universal Substance, the soul attains Moksha. This is the Supreme Blessedness.
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jose mentira moreno wrote>Funny how you know all about these alleged and unverifiable prostitution, drug, sex and pedophile rings and you can even name locations. Makes one wonder why you didn't make any effort to prevent the sexual abuse of children when you allegedly knew these things were happening. So do tell us Tony, how exactly are you aware of these things? Were you involved in them?<
Pray tell to whom was I to report anything that I knew or suspected or was told? The Police? who were being paid by sb and had already murdered the students on his orders?
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01-08-2007 12:28 PM ET (US)
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When I was a devotee I was in true believer syndrom and deluded. On later examination I noticed the vibhuti at halagappas came from his spoon and small pocket like areas on the back of the medals.
This of course should have read amrit, or sugar water, not ash or vibhuti.
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01-08-2007 11:24 AM ET (US)
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Moksha or moha kshya results in the end of the individual ego and all other transitory bodies like the astral etc. Even according to the teachings of sb. Well he contradicts himself all the time not being very bright. However he says that his mother visits him everyday and that iris murphet comes to. So they still have individual souls and therefore are not realised and don't have moksha----sb a liar and deceiver again.
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01-08-2007 11:21 AM ET (US)
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When I was a devotee I was in true believer syndrom and deluded. On later examination I noticed the vibhuti at halagappas came from his spoon and small pocket like areas on the back of the medals.
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/m1778Tony, you sound just like a cult-like automaton who has true believer syndrome. You continually repeat your childish nonsense as if you are some wide-eyed child who believes the boogey man is coming to get him in the dark (mind you, Tony is a 62-3 year old man-child!). Grow up Tony. You sound like a nutcase. Funny that you are so blind that you cannot see how deluded, immature and cult-like you are. Thank God you left the organisation. It's wackos like you who give it a bad name. Obviously you have ZERO connection to and LITTLE faith in God. Grow up and get a life. You are a fearmongering, boring, childish ingrate. Moksha is NOT a limited state where the soul disappears and ceases to exist, dumbo. The soul is immortal (because conciousness is INFINITE INTELLIGENCE). All religions (except YOUR cult apparently) teach that the soul is immortal. Get it through your head and quit trying to play guru with your cult-like beliefs, lies and conspiracy theories which have NO basis in fact. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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/m1777No you didn't Tony (maybe this is wishful thinking on your part as you seem to have a fixation regarding male sex organs). You are a blatant liar. We have your OWN words on record telling otherwise. WHY are you lying Tony? Is someone paying you to lie? Read your own words and ruminate on what a fickle whore you are Tony:"Greetings!
I also have seen vibhuti and amrit manifest as I watched. In Srirangapatna, I had lockets in the palm of my hand produce unending copious amounts of amrit.One tiny locket filled a glass below my hand. I have seen the same thing elsewhere as well, where there is no room for trickery. Whether some of the manifestations are real or apports is really irrelevant. The biggest miracles are in the transformation of His devotees, I am an example, He took me off alcohol and introduced me to meditation and Vedanta, I am a huge sceptic. Unfortunately to a legal or critical eye, none of the accusations stand up, they are all hearsay. What about the 'wishfulfilling tree', at Prashanti that produced all kinds of different fruit. Also to a man who has produced a living breathing monkey in front of witnesses in the interview room. Anything is possible. If He was the pervert that some accuse Him of being, he wouldn't need boys from the college, he could make His own, with no repercussions!!!!!!!I am still a Devotee but I have gone beyond needing a Guru. If this is the case with some then go peacefully to your own contemplation, these attacks on Baba indicate your remaining intense attachment to Him. This is whom you will merge at death!! If there is any weakness in His organisation it is that devotees especially some executives do not follow his,'commandments', but thatis the egoistic human condition. This is a far more serious thing than debunking miracles, for these people are His representatives in the world so to speak. So WATCH! Most of what I see here on this site is unscientific, unacademic and hearsay from people who'se egoistic desires were not met by Swami in some way.
Love and Sai Ram,Tony."******** Namaste All, On the K-list, as most of you probably noticed, there was an attack on Sai Baba. He neither needs any praise or defence. The usual claims that he molests little boys etc. How the President and Prime Minister of India haven't noticed this I don't know! Anyway I personally know the 'high profile' individuals, who are travelling around doing this, Sweden, New York, Europe, Australia etc. There are complicated reasons why they are doing this and I can't mention them here.
After the battle of Lanka and the defeat of Ravana, one of Rama's generals came up and stated how happy he had been to serve. Rama replied 'yes, but in your next life you will be my enemy.'
This is the concept of miracle-game or 'Leela'. One has to bear in mind 'all is one', even in this appearance upon The Self. It is the The Lord who plays both the friend and foe, demon and saint, for whatever reason, inexplicable to our minds. Sometimes more can be done by a foe rather than a friend. Hatred, at least, is not indifference.
In the end result it is what one learns from the Guru, that is important. As Swami says." Don't be a devotee of My Form, but of My Teachings".
Love and Sai Ram, Tony."
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Sb's mother and iris murphet are astral beings seen at the ashram and attested to by sb himself. This indicates sb is a liar and doesn't provide moksha. Die with his name on your lips and you end up a captive spirit on the astral for how long??????????????????
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I had a narrow escape myself at pn, many many years ago. sb wanted to plant his sausage in me!!!!!!!!!1
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Tony 'Bologna' O'Clery, and where is your proof of "pedophilia"? You have none. You are a conspiracy theorist and you believe you can hear and see dead people and that you can go into demon trances. lol Funny how you know all about these alleged and unverifiable prostitution, drug, sex and pedophile rings and you can even name locations. Makes one wonder why you didn't make any effort to prevent the sexual abuse of children when you allegedly knew these things were happening. So do tell us Tony, how exactly are you aware of these things? Were you involved in them? QUOTABLE-QUOTES:Anthony 'Tony' O'Clery:"Stand in front of the mirror masturbating and think of sb, really think hard about him doing fellatio on you. You will first notice a big pair of rubber lips appearing in the astral then sb will be with you, inviting you to pn so you can be anally penetrated." (Reference)
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This page will show what a fraud and hypocrite usedbybaba aka usedcrybaby is: USEDBYBABA EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED ANONYMOUS WHACKO ATTACKING SAI BABAAt least Joe is MAN enough to give his FULL name, unlike cowardly usedcrybaby, the thugster. Usedbybaba doesn't "discuss" anything, He just GOSSIPS, LIES, plays mind games, accuses, abuses and projects all of his own sordid behaviors onto everyone else so he doesn't have to take responsibility for them. Don't let his self-deluded manipulations fool you. Most likely usedbybaba has a criminal history (of fraud) a mile long.
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Edited by author 01-05-2007 07:24 PM These messages will show what a fraud Joe and His friend Lisa are. /m1743 Joes so called usedbybaba exposed and My reply /m1760joes love for biker babies /m1759joe tries to confuse on what Veer Sangvi wrote in Hindustan Times /m1748 coo2 is put on truth serum /m1746- proof that Lisa cannot discuss but only abuse /m1719Real meaning of WATCH watch your words etc., /m1713 SB on truth serum /m1710 SB on truth serum again /m1706 SBs Advice to Lisa, When he was intoxicated /m1702 SB notices Lisa trying to find out about usedbybaba /m1696 Present Warden of Prashantinilayam(was also molested) /m1695- SB if is put on truth serum
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/m1771No Tony it doesn't describe Sai Baba's behavior at all. It does show clearly what a pervert YOU are to think it is PERFECTLY ok to continuously LIE and talk like a PERVERT in public. Funny that you are SO out of touch with REALITY that you cannot see this. That you have absolutely NO sense of moral boundaries when it comes to babbling in public. In short, it shows that you spent far too many years in bars and that you think it is PERFECTLY ok to talk like a bar fly. That's what your foul language shows NORMAL PEOPLE who have common sense, Tony.
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/m1766 Too funny, Tony is so desperate he is going back into the annals of time to recycle and regurgitate garbage from David Icke's website (now moved to Hidden Mysteries after Icke was sued for defamation) that was processed several years ago by the courts. The anti-Sais have not shown ANY court documents which support their contention that the hospital, or any doctor, was connected to ANY kidney racket. Poor Tony has such a bad case of true believer syndrome he has become obsessively paranoid and is creating conspiracy theories to try and rationalize his bad choices and obsession with having to be right. Tony is so obsessed with having to be right he will lie over and over again and even destroy what little reputation he had for his addiction to being right. If Tony doesn't face reality soon he may have to check himself into a mental hospital. It's really ok to be WRONG Tony. It is more "wrong" and damaging to your mental health to lie in order to continue on in your obsession with having to be right. The world is not going to end if you are wrong, Tony. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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Jose Geraldo Mentira Moreno wrote>"Stand in front of the mirror masturbating and think of sb, really think hard about him doing fellatio on you. You will first notice a big pair of rubber lips appearing in the astral then sb will be with you, inviting you to pn so you can be anally penetrated." (Reference<
Yes I did write that to help put that poor boy off going to sb's den of pedophilia pn. It just factually and medically describes sb's behaviour.
Kids have to be careful not to end up in the pedophile brothel near the ganesha gate, or be included in the sex and drug orgies at Kodai.
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Yes I read all that stuff rebutting that case, but it actually proves that something was really going on there at pn. It is just the tip of the iceberg. Go to the hospital and see for yourself.
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Once again, Tony 'Bologna' O'Clery is repeating his same outdated slop about the alleged "stolen kidney" incident. I already commented on this issue, in full, on my blog: Outdated Stolen Kidney Propaganda. Fast forward 7 and half years and the Super Specialty Hospital has never been found guilty of any wrong-doing. Nothing. More "trial by newspaper clippings" by desperate Anti-Sai Activists. QUOTABLE-QUOTES:Anthony 'Tony' O'Clery:"Stand in front of the mirror masturbating and think of sb, really think hard about him doing fellatio on you. You will first notice a big pair of rubber lips appearing in the astral then sb will be with you, inviting you to pn so you can be anally penetrated." (Reference)
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Namaste All, I have posted my treatment and purports of the GThomas on my blog. Harsha you mentioned Prof VK Krishnamurthy, he is mentioned as well.ONS.Tony. http://oclery.blogspot.com/
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Too funny. Usedbybaba and Tony Bologna O'Clery, the great critics of Satya Sai Baba! I can see the Sai Org shivering as we speak. lol
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Deccan Chronicle 5.11.99: "Hyderabad Nov 4: Justice G
Raghu Ram of the Andhra Pradesh High
Court on Thursday admitted a writ petition seeking initiation of criminal prosecution against the doctors of the Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Medical Sciences, Puttaparthi in Anantapur district alleging malpractices regarding the transplantation of kidney.
The writ petition has been filed by Balaji Triambak Rao Karavande, who has alleged that the doctors of the institute removed a kidney from his body and did not transplant the same to his father...
After he offered to donate one of his kidneys to save his father's life, the doctors at the institute operated on him on April 25 1994 and told him that the same would be transplanted to his father.
BT Karavande said that his father died in December 1995 and to his shock the doctors claimed that his father's body did not show signs of a new transplanted kidney. He informed the court that after this revelation, he lodged a complaint with the Latur [Maharashtra] police, who exumed the body, conducted a post-mortem, and confirmed that no kidney transplant has taken place.
He alleged that the police at Puttaparthi did not register the complaint and that he was thrown out of the hospital when he confronted the doctors with the relevant documents. He sought compensation of Rs 20 lakh and direction to the police to register a case and punish the guilty who played fraud upon him."
This story is also reported in The Hindu, Hyderabad, 5.11.99.
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Apart from the obvious fraud and theft, if the allegations are proven the persons and doctors responsible at the Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Medical Sciences have also, at least, committed manslaughter and possibly murder (if a deliberate intent can be established).
I doubt this will go that far considering the influence Sai Baba has on the governments in India. There will probably be a scapegoat.
Regards Tony.
As a footnote I believe the sb goons leaned on this chap later.
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/m1760This biker site must be where usedbybaba makes his money and finds his dates since he is the one who keeps advertising it and other raunchy sites. Usedbybaba, like Tony O'Clery, seems to be a little too familiar and comfortable with the seamy side of life.
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/m1740Here Tony, read the definition of RUMOR and see if you can try to grow up and act like an adult for once. I know it's difficult because you are addicted to hanging out with such bad role models like usedbybaba and Sanjay Dadlani but we can only hope you will get a clue some day and see your fascist and sociopathic behavior for what it truly is. rumor 2 entries found for rumor. To select an entry, click on it. rumor[1,noun]rumor[2,transitive verb]
Main Entry: 1ruˇmor Pronunciation: 'rü-m&r Function: noun Etymology: Middle English rumour, from Anglo-French, from Latin rumor clamor, gossip; akin to Old English rEon to lament, Sanskrit rauti he roars 1 : talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source 2 : a statement or report current without known authority for its truth,
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/m1756Tony, TWENTY YEARS is MORE than just a LITTLE lax. It is negligent incompetence at the very least. But then we know you are a closet racist at the very least (with the same double standard regarding the cover-up for the "white guys" in the Catholic church) so this does not surprise those of us who see your duplicity for what it is. And to be honest, it is YOU Tony who acts more like a sociopathic serial killer and pervert. The volumous documentation regarding your himsa-loving foul mouth, lies and deception are all over the internet. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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These messages will show what a fraud Joe and His friend Lisa are. /m1743 Joes so called usedbybaba exposed and My reply /m1760joes love for biker babies /m1759joe tries to confuse on what Veer Sangvi wrote in Hindustan Times /m1748 coo2 is put on truth serum /m1746- proof that Lisa cannot discuss but only abuse /m1719Real meaning of WATCH watch your words etc., /m1713 SB on truth serum /m1710 SB on truth serum again /m1706 SBs Advice to Lisa, When he was intoxicated /m1702 SB notices Lisa trying to find out about usedbybaba /m1696 Present Warden of Prashantinilayam(was also molested) /m1695- SB if is put on truth serum
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EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED HAS SENT THIS MESSAGE TO sathyasaibaba2 ˇ Sathya Sai Baba DISCUSSION CLUB IN YAHOO.ONLY YOU AND YOUR BABA WILL ENJOY THESE POSTS Cute Amateur Biker Babes looking for playmate! Check their profiles here: http://www.bestbikerclub.com/bikerpro/sexybikerbabes.htm" HE AND HIS MERCENARY DEVOTESS WANT TO SAVE HIM BY CALLING ME A LIAR. BUT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT HE DID THIS TO DISRUPT THE DISCUSSION,BUT GOT CAUGHT. __ _ EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED
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This was my answer.But joe hid himself.Why?
Thank you joe moron.I just read the article by Vir Sangvi and now i know that if you are stupid enough not to understand that baba is a criminal,even after reading this article, you will never understand.Your answer to his google search on baba's homosexuality is nothing but a cheap gimmick to save baba. When he said he found a lot of accusations about baba's homosexual behaviour and you Dirty idiot is trying to confuse the issue.No one has accused either vir Sangvi or George Bush of homosexual molestations but when you do the same search with your baba, thare are lots and lots of accusations.How can you Joker equate these two.YOU ARE SUCH A CONNIVING ROUGE.
IN EVERY MESSAGE I SEE THAT YOU ARE A CROOK WHO IS WORKING FOR BABA, TO TRY AND SAVE HIM FROM ALL THE SINS THAT ARE CHASING HIM
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Lisa: "everything I've learned about hate I've learned from you bozos who are the PERFECT role models for hate. Baba only teaches LOVE,"-------
Baba Teaches to make Love with the same sex.
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Namaste,
With regard to organ dealings at pn. Each body is worth $200,000 US.
So how much money on legit and stolen organs is going into sai org?..Tony
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--- In sathyasaibaba2@yahoogroups.com, Lisa <conscientiousobjector2000@...> wrote: > > What about the 26 women murdered in your back > yard Tony? > > Seems that Canadian police are just as inept when > it comes to investigating possible serial > killers. > > http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas...lings.ap/index.html> > > Grow up Tony. Your constant whining is annoying > and childish. > > Why don't you get some of your cowardly grown men > to act like MEN and file charges dork brain? > Neptune is living in India and still within the > statute of limitations, stupid. > > Wise up dumbo. > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6230617.stmNamaste, Yes the police seemed a little lax. However they were dealing with mostly runaways who became prostitutes, so disappearances were not uncommon. Some were later found in Canada and one in the USA. This is not the same thing as the kids in Delhi who living at home or sb committing his crimes in full view of the local police detachment, which until recently was paid by sb. The only similarity is that this pickton monster and sb seem to be in the same mould, perhaps he is a sb devotee........Tony.
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EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED joe and Lisa Exposed /m1743
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/m1750. Oh but that is your language. I am not good in English remember.
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Lisa wrote in sathya sai discussion club :"What about the 26 women murdered in your back yard Tony?" Seems that Canadian police are just as inept when it comes to investigating possible serial killers."
Lisa, so you are finally confessing to the murders. Ok why did you bury them inTony's back yard. Oh that was a mistake, you wanted to say you have buri4ed them in your back yard but by Slip of the tounge you told it is inTony's back yard. Canadian Police can meet her in the Jail in U.S and decide what to do.
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EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED/m1743 oh Lisa Don't feel bad. All I asked you is to answer this message.
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I am sorry everyone. I am sorry. I am not normal.Many times Joe makes me abuse everyone,so that he can copy their replies and publish them in his blogg.I know he makes a lot of money through this,but he promised me some money. Actually I am blatant liar and con woman. All I speak is a pack of lies. I am a part of a bunch of mentally unstable dummies.I am perpetually stupid. I have many criminal records. All I speak is self-serving lies..I and Joe are pathetic wackos and hypocrites. We are dork brains,brainless, flaming liars. drool dumbos,nutcases and bozos.we are totally confused-by-baba. That Sicko (baba) is in a drunken stupor most of the time.He is a blatant liar and con man.All that he writes is nothing but a pack of lies. I belong to a bunch of mentally unstable dummies . I and joe are erpetually stupid full of criminal records.All we speak is self-serving lies.
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/m1746You wackos are the biggest bunch of name callers (and hypocritical whiners) there are. There is several years worth of documentation regarding Tony O'Clery's name calling of many people including me (i.e. Baba , the "pervatar," remember brainless usedbybaba?) ya flaming liar. Now quit your whining and go play in your double standards also known as DROOL. You'll do anything to keep your sick little psychodrama going hoping you can be the center of attention. Grow up and get a life. Everything about you on Joe's blog is TRUE. I know because I helped gather the info. There is CERTAINLY enough info on you bozos to have you investigated as a hate group. And well you should be with all the pathetic lies you tell. "UsedByBaba" Lied About His Age: On his Yahoo profile, "usedbybaba" claimed he was 54 years old (Ref). This means that usedbybaba would have been 18 in 1972. The Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Learning was founded on November 22, 1981, by Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba (Ref). Therefore, usedbybaba could not have attended Baba's college at that time (as he claimed) because it had not yet been founded. To complicate matters, usedbybaba also claimed that he was around 40 years of age on the SSB2 Yahoo Group (Ref). The lies and contradictions never end by confused-by-baba. Usedbybaba claimed he went to school in Puttaparthi NOT Brindavan. "As far as the 15 years is concerned, I lived more than that in Parthi and When I was supposed to fill the area of first name, Second name and so on I just filled not knowing it will be displayed and to my own surprise."Usedbybaba claims he was smart enough to get into college but claims he did not know how to deal with the consequences of putting his name on a simple form! Usedbybaba cannot even prove WHO he is much less anything else because he is too busy playing mind games and getting off on them like the sicko that he is that he cannot even remember his lies. Probably because he is in a drunken stupor most of the time. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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/m1737 Lisa you quoted Joe's Crap blogg. Answer my question and STOP calling people names. TONY DID NOT CALL YOU NAMESBut you whine if someone calls you names and your Joe the Moron immediately says "unapologetically called others " YOU AND JOE ARE THE BLIND ONES WHO "cannot see the forest for the trees?" (to quote you) In a SINGLE message of 9 to 10 lines you have abused Tony six times.SHOWS WHAT YOUR GURU HAS TAUGHT YOU AND JOE blatant liar and con man pack of lies bunch of mentally unstable dummies like you. perpetually stupid criminal record self-serving lies
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/m1740No journalist has EVER corroborated your blatant lies about the photos (see /m1730 for proof of Tony's continuous dishonesty on this subject). These corrupt individuals have told so many lies about alleged photos they cannot even keep their stories straight. Dummies like Tony want you to "just believe" their idiotic hearsay stories (while the hypocrites constantly berate others for being 'true believers') without any proof. Tell me something is not rotten here. Even the wacky rationalists are not touting con man O'Clery's dubious tales about photos. /m1741There is absolutely NO comparison between that issue and the VERY suspicious claims coming from a bunch of white adult male foreigners who have NEVER even tried to file charges in India (because they are liars who are NOT children who were 'molested'). WHERE are all the children claiming to have been molested O'Clery? Even the BBC could not find any children to parade in front of the cameras and Alaya Rahm was an 18 year old ADULT when he claims he went back to Sai Baba "twenty times" (which turned out to be ONLY seven) for alleged sexual romps with his guru which he then gave public speeches eulogizing and even wrote a love poem extolling his guru's virtues. Even a trial lawyer experienced in child molestation cases was blinded by the greed factor and Rahm's lies when he took Rahm's case on a contingency. From all appearances, it seems a bunch of greedy white guys thought they might cash in on the possibility the accusations were true. What an embarrassment to all Americans, white people (and men) these bozos are. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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