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01-11-2007 11:37 AM ET (US)
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Lisa wrote;>Sorry Tony, I don't remember Sai Baba EVER claiming such a thing.<
That's because you haven't read any of Dr Ghardia's books, or obviously any of the other books that sb mentions this stuff. He even wrote some in the sanathan sarathi.
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01-10-2007 08:15 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 03-07-2008 10:24 PM
/m1800Sorry Tony, I don't remember Sai Baba EVER claiming such a thing. Are you sure this isn't just another one of your wild imaginings like the brothel and photo tales and the penis baloney? And WHY aren't you concerned about your looney friend David Icke and his FRAUDULENT claims about the British Royal Family and the Bushes being alien reptilian, blood-drinking shape shifters when he has been raking in dirty money selling books all over the world to susceptible true believers like you who bought into his malarky hook, line and sinker? In your world I guess fraud is ok if it's one of your friends doing it? And what about the freaky pedophile priests in the Catholic church? Suspiciously, we haven't heard ONE peep from you, the biggest whiner of all, or any of your Catholic anti-Sai cohorts about all the victims in the Catholic church. Don't you wonder if any of those perverts ever gave you communion with those dirty hands (God only knows WHERE those hands have been before they put that communion wafer in your mouth...maybe it rubbed off on you given your behavior)? And apparently none of you care that those involved in the massive cover-up have basically destroyed the church's credibility with their subversive behavior. Apparently fraud and pedophilia are ok in the anti-Sai crowd as long as you are a "white guy". Tony must have banged his head.
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01-10-2007 02:34 PM ET (US)
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And Tony Bologna O'Clery has admitted he is a pathological liar who falsely tries to associate pedophiles with the Sai Org. Tsk.
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01-10-2007 12:19 PM ET (US)
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sb claims he morphed into a snake form, into four black africans, into an entourage of people, etc etc. So his claims to be a shape shifter are out of his own mouth and recorded.
sb also has admitted that not all the stuff he 'materialises' is by him, but that he brings stuff from a store.( he actually conjures all but it is interesting to see him admit he doesn't 'materialise' every item).
sb has admitted easwaramma is a captive astral spirit and still visits the ashram with iris murphet and lot of other astral beings, without MOKSHA.
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01-10-2007 11:15 AM ET (US)
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Edited by author 01-10-2007 11:17 AM
Tony Bologna O'Clery forgot to mention that the very people who coined the phrase " true believer syndrome" explicitly professed a belief in life after death, good-mediums, psychic phenomena, ESP and God after making their case against "true believer syndrome". Since Sathya Sai Baba has never openly acknowledged that he fakes miracles or manifestations, the term "true beliver syndrome" cannot apply to him or his devotees because "true believer syndrome" exclusively applies to events that have been openly faked (with a full admission of fraud). Tony, you want some more mustard on that bolgona sandwich?
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01-09-2007 09:29 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 01-10-2007 06:07 AM
/m1796What a ridiculous comment, Tony. How can a penis be "withdrawn" DOWN into the crotch and concealed? You are talking about TESTICLES being withdrawn. A penis CANNOT be concealed unless TAPED down. It is a physical impossibility for a man to control his penis in the way you are implying Mr. "True Believer" (roll eyes). You should know this considering you were hanging out with tranvestites. Unbelievable. Do you EVER use your brain?
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01-09-2007 07:58 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 03-07-2008 10:15 PM
/m1796WHY are you such a perpetual liar, Tony? Your writings about Sai Baba and comments about reptilians were all over David Icke's site until he was sued for defamation and it mysteriously disappeared. You have been shown this DOCUMENTED information regarding the accusers morphing genitalia claims umpteen times and STILL you are lying about it. Talk about "true believer" syndrome. Tony is one of the most culty types in his group of hatemongers. No matter how many times one shows him the truth he is still like a blind man who refuses to take off his self-created blinders so he can see. Pathetic. One does have to wonder why Tony is so hell bent on pushing his lies. Is Tony just a very stupid man with a gigantic ego or is it something more nefarious like he is being paid for his subversion of truth? After all, Tony wrote that his business went under (and claimed he lost millions of dollars) shortly before he started his hate campaign against Sai Baba. In a Dutch article entitled "De Wonderdoener", written by Piet van der Eijk, Keith Ord personally claimed that Sathya Sai Baba was not a hermaphrodite, but literally morphed his genitals from male to female. Keith Ord said (translated from Dutch):"Unexpectedly he took my trousers down and he tried to excite me sexually. He took my hand and placed it on his sexual organ. Then I noticed that Sai Baba was ambiguous: he was not half-woman half-man, not a hermaphrodite, no. From one moment to the next, he changed from a man to a woman completely, with the sexual organs of each. Do not ask me how this is possible, but I have experienced it. It must also be a kind of miracle. Obviously Sai Baba lives on another level than ordinary mortals." Alexandra Nagel repeated Keith Ord's "genital switch" story in her paper "Sai Baba as Shiva-Shakti: a Created Myth? Or?". In this paper, Nagel did not refer to Ord by name but confirmed to me that she was referring to him. Nagel said: "At a certain moment during the last private interview, Sai Baba had seized my friend's hand and made him touch Baba's groin. The first time this was done a penis was felt through the thin fabric of his robe. (It was not a skin to skin contact.) The second time he was invited to touch, he hadn't felt a penis there was something there that felt like a vagina." A first-hand witness to Keith Ord's lies: ON A PERSONAL NOTE On November 25th 2005, Keith Ord emailed me and said he would clarify the inconsistencies in the stories he related about Sathya Sai Baba. To date, he has not emailed me again with any clarifications. It might surprise some to hear that I personally met Keith Ord, in the early 90's, when he had his 3 interviews with Sathya Sai Baba. Keith started a fashion trend at Puttaparthi by making shirts out of sari material. Keith and I had about 4 in-depth and private talks, about his interviews with Sathya Sai Baba, and he never mentioned anything about Baba oiling him, embracing him or transforming his genitalis from male to female, etc. However, Keith did talk to me about his disenfranchisment with Baba and continually compared and contrasted Sathya Sai Baba with Jesus. Keith made it clear he was a devoted Catholic and continually praised Jesus in our private conversations. Although our talks were private, and Keith was very open and blunt about his disenfranchisement with Baba, he never alluded to any sort of sexual impropriety with Baba. Not even once. Sathya Sai Baba manifested a silvery-type, rectangular lotus ring (with an enamel picture in the center) for Keith that was initially so loose on his finger, it kept slipping off. As Keith's disenfranchisement with Sathya Sai Baba strenghened, the ring became tighter and tighter to the point that Keith could no longer remove the ring. I saw the ring myself and Keith's inability to remove it. It is important to point out that Keith and I had our in-depth and private talks after his 3 interviews in which he later claimed that Sathya Sai Baba touched him inappropriately and that SSB literally tranformed his genitals from male to female. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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01-09-2007 06:51 PM ET (US)
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The only person I know who claims to morph into reptiles is sb, who claims he was a snake, on one occasion, for whatever reason. I believe that sb is a hermaphrodite and may have the hatha yoga/martial arts trick of being able to withdraw his genitals into his body.
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01-09-2007 06:48 PM ET (US)
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/m1794Yes, Tony should apply this to himself as he is the one pushing David Icke's reptilian nonsense as well as other ridiculous paranormal nonsense (and lies) about demons. Also, Tony believes accusers who claim Sai Baba's genitalia supernaturally morphed from male to female! Tony tries to rationalize the accusers lies as hermaphrodism but hermaphrodism has absolutely nothing to do with their "supernatural" claims of morphing genitalia. Once again, Tony has been caught trying to put a square peg in a round hole and come out looking like a block head. Grow up Tony, you sound like a perpetual drunk.
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01-09-2007 01:17 PM ET (US)
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True-believer syndrome From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search True-believer syndrome is a term coined by M. Lamar Keene in his 1976 book The Psychic Mafia referring to an irrational belief in paranormal events, even after direct confession or evidence that the events were fraudulently staged. Keene, himself a reformed fraud medium,[1] exposed a number of other psychics, faith healers, and miracle workers; yet their followers only grew stronger. Keene came to see this inability to recognize fraud as a cognitive disorder.[2] He believed that the true-believer syndrome "merits study by science" and is the greatest thing PHONY mediums have going for them.[3] While the psychology of religion does study irrationality, the term "true believer syndrome" is not an accepted scientific term and mainstream psychologists, psychiatrists or doctors do not consider irrationality a cognitive disorder.
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01-09-2007 12:42 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 01-09-2007 12:42 PM
Tony 'Bologna' O'Clery admits he still suffers from "true-believer syndrome"! Too funny! You just don't get it? Do you, Tony? On one hand, you can't be saying you don't suffer from "true believer syndrome" and on the other hand, profess belief in all these things. You try to present yourself as a rational and logical person (doing a very poor job at it, by the way) and you are utterly unconvincing considering that you hear voices in your head, claim you see dead people and claim that you enter demon trances! Keep babbling. It's very entertaining. QUOTABLE-QUOTES:Anthony 'Tony' O'Clery:"Stand in front of the mirror masturbating and think of sb, really think hard about him doing fellatio on you. You will first notice a big pair of rubber lips appearing in the astral then sb will be with you, inviting you to pn so you can be anally penetrated." (Reference)
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01-09-2007 11:38 AM ET (US)
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Edited by author 01-09-2007 11:40 AM
sb backs tony up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
The story on hiranyakasipu being able to send ships to the stars and manipulate matter, is also mentioned by sb in the sanathan sarathi magazine. Asral forms particularly of his mother are also stated by sb to be visiting the ashram. I don't believe that Moksha or becoming Nir Guna is unconscious but beyond consciousness and the manifestation of mind.
Atlantis and Lemuria are mentioned in the Hindu Puranas by different names such as Aswin and Lanka or similar.
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01-09-2007 02:48 AM ET (US)
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Edited by author 11-18-2007 03:18 AM
/m1790The scariest thing about Tony is that he "TRULY believes" he is going to teach anyone anything about advaita when he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about. He reads a couple of pages on the internet and thinks he is suddenly an expert on advaita. The nutter of negativity and pervert can't even keep his mind out of the gutter for five minutes yet thinks he is guru material. Pathetic! Can you imagine a Vedic Priest talking about sex the way Tony does? They would probably stone him to death as soon as he opened his disgusting mouth! Tony O'Clery Banned from Advaitin Group
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01-09-2007 02:18 AM ET (US)
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Too funny~ Tony 'Bologna' O'Clery claims that he somehow broke free from his "true-believer syndrome" but still believes that he can see dead people and hear their voices in his head and that he enters demon trances. Tony O'Clery believes in: Atlantis and Lemuria, Edgar Cayce (a man called "The Sleeping Prophet" who had spirits speak through him), shape-shifting (literally changing one's physical body to that of an animal, bird, reptile or other creature), UFO's, aliens, alien abductions, reincarnation, black magic using semen, astral planes with astral beings, thought forms, psychic attacks, kundalini, psychics, mediums, karma, the mayan calendar apocalypse, talking to the dead (O'Cleary claimed he mentally spoke to and saw a dead person named "Eilish"), demon possession, channeling, prophecies, bilocation and believes that Hiranyakasipu (a mythological demon who is said to have existed millions of years ago) was able to manipulate matter completely and could create ships that could go to the stars! O'Clery believes that this mythological demon story can answer many questions about mankind's "roots"! Yeah. That sounds to me that Tony 'Bolonga' O'Clery doesn't suffer from "true believer syndrome". Not! lol QUOTABLE-QUOTES:Anthony 'Tony' O'Clery:"Stand in front of the mirror masturbating and think of sb, really think hard about him doing fellatio on you. You will first notice a big pair of rubber lips appearing in the astral then sb will be with you, inviting you to pn so you can be anally penetrated." (Reference)
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01-08-2007 11:56 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 02-29-2008 03:02 AM
/m1786Tony, you seem to forget you were claiming to be a 'devotee' until the year 2000 and are documented singing Baba's praises on several internet message boards (see /m1779). Who can take a waffler like you seriously? Your gossip tales are just like usedcrybaby's. All talk and NO proof. No names of anyone who can corroborate your ridiculous stories. No evidence of any sort. Just a bunch of HATE babble from a drunk. Grow up Tony. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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01-08-2007 11:49 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 03-12-2008 02:14 AM
/m1785Nobody else who has seen the amrit has changed their story Tony. A "glass" of amrit (which you describe in your testimonial (see /m1779)) could not possibly fit in that little amulet so either way you have LIED, as usual. Not only that but I have the video, Man of Miracles (see link below), narrated by Rod Serling which shows the amrit and it is documented on film. The person in the film flips the object over in his hand several times so you can see there is no "tube" attached to it. He also holds it for quite a long time and viewers cans see the amrit continues to pour out of it. You were NEVER a devotee Tony. You don't even begin to understand the meaning of the word. You are a "true believer" in your own lies and deceptions Tony. Apparently alcohol has done so much damage to your brain, you cannot even see your own lies and sickness. You are a VERY sick man Tony. VERY sick. You are TOTALLY in denial. You cannot even see that you are acting like a five year old, repeating the same childish tantrums over and over again for the whole world to see. The lies you are preaching have nothing to do with Baba at all. You are caught in your own alcoholic psychodrama and there you will stay until you die. What is amazing (and also VERY suspicious) is that in spite of the miraculous experiences most anti-Sais have admitted to experiencing, the minute they heard something negative they did not bother to question the accusers as to the veracity of those accusations. Not even ONE of them bothered to ask any tough questions. This is how much 'FAITH' they had in themselves and their own experiences. All they had to do was hear the dreaded word 'molestation' and they folded like a deck of cards, totally letting their fear or something else control them. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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