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Tony O'Clery  1800
01-10-2007 12:19 PM ET (US)
sb claims he morphed into a snake form, into four black africans, into an entourage of people, etc etc. So his claims to be a shape shifter are out of his own mouth and recorded.

sb also has admitted that not all the stuff he 'materialises' is by him, but that he brings stuff from a store.( he actually conjures all but it is interesting to see him admit he doesn't 'materialise' every item).

sb has admitted easwaramma is a captive astral spirit and still visits the ashram with iris murphet and lot of other astral beings, without MOKSHA.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1799
01-10-2007 11:15 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 01-10-2007 11:17 AM
Tony Bologna O'Clery forgot to mention that the very people who coined the phrase "true believer syndrome" explicitly professed a belief in life after death, good-mediums, psychic phenomena, ESP and God after making their case against "true believer syndrome".

Since Sathya Sai Baba has never openly acknowledged that he fakes miracles or manifestations, the term "true beliver syndrome" cannot apply to him or his devotees because "true believer syndrome" exclusively applies to events that have been openly faked (with a full admission of fraud).

Tony, you want some more mustard on that bolgona sandwich?

CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1798
01-09-2007 09:29 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 01-10-2007 06:07 AM
/m1796

What a ridiculous comment, Tony. How can a penis be "withdrawn" DOWN into the crotch and concealed? You are talking about TESTICLES being withdrawn. A penis CANNOT be concealed unless TAPED down. It is a physical impossibility for a man to control his penis in the way you are implying Mr. "True Believer" (roll eyes). You should know this considering you were hanging out with tranvestites.

Unbelievable. Do you EVER use your brain?
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1797
01-09-2007 07:58 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-07-2008 10:15 PM
/m1796

WHY are you such a perpetual liar, Tony? Your writings about Sai Baba and comments about reptilians were all over David Icke's site until he was sued for defamation and it mysteriously disappeared.

You have been shown this DOCUMENTED information regarding the accusers morphing genitalia claims umpteen times and STILL you are lying about it.

Talk about "true believer" syndrome. Tony is one of the most culty types in his group of hatemongers. No matter how many times one shows him the truth he is still like a blind man who refuses to take off his self-created blinders so he can see. Pathetic.

One does have to wonder why Tony is so hell bent on pushing his lies. Is Tony just a very stupid man with a gigantic ego or is it something more nefarious like he is being paid for his subversion of truth? After all, Tony wrote that his business went under (and claimed he lost millions of dollars) shortly before he started his hate campaign against Sai Baba.


In a Dutch article entitled "De Wonderdoener", written by Piet van der Eijk, Keith Ord personally claimed that Sathya Sai Baba was not a hermaphrodite, but literally morphed his genitals from male to female. Keith Ord said (translated from Dutch):

"Unexpectedly he took my trousers down and he tried to excite me sexually. He took my hand and placed it on his sexual organ. Then I noticed that Sai Baba was ambiguous: he was not half-woman half-man, not a hermaphrodite, no. From one moment to the next, he changed from a man to a woman completely, with the sexual organs of each. Do not ask me how this is possible, but I have experienced it. It must also be a kind of miracle. Obviously Sai Baba lives on another level than ordinary mortals."

Alexandra Nagel repeated Keith Ord's "genital switch" story in her paper "Sai Baba as Shiva-Shakti: a Created Myth? Or?". In this paper, Nagel did not refer to Ord by name but confirmed to me that she was referring to him. Nagel said:

"At a certain moment during the last private interview, Sai Baba had seized my friend's hand and made him touch Baba's groin. The first time this was done a penis was felt through the thin fabric of his robe. (It was not a skin to skin contact.) The second time he was invited to touch, he hadn't felt a penis – there was something there that felt like a vagina."


A first-hand witness to Keith Ord's lies:

ON A PERSONAL NOTE

On November 25th 2005, Keith Ord emailed me and said he would clarify the inconsistencies in the stories he related about Sathya Sai Baba. To date, he has not emailed me again with any clarifications.

It might surprise some to hear that I personally met Keith Ord, in the early 90's, when he had his 3 interviews with Sathya Sai Baba. Keith started a fashion trend at Puttaparthi by making shirts out of sari material. Keith and I had about 4 in-depth and private talks, about his interviews with Sathya Sai Baba, and he never mentioned anything about Baba oiling him, embracing him or transforming his genitalis from male to female, etc. However, Keith did talk to me about his disenfranchisment with Baba and continually compared and contrasted Sathya Sai Baba with Jesus. Keith made it clear he was a devoted Catholic and continually praised Jesus in our private conversations. Although our talks were private, and Keith was very open and blunt about his disenfranchisement with Baba, he never alluded to any sort of sexual impropriety with Baba. Not even once.

Sathya Sai Baba manifested a silvery-type, rectangular lotus ring (with an enamel picture in the center) for Keith that was initially so loose on his finger, it kept slipping off. As Keith's disenfranchisement with Sathya Sai Baba strenghened, the ring became tighter and tighter to the point that Keith could no longer remove the ring. I saw the ring myself and Keith's inability to remove it. It is important to point out that Keith and I had our in-depth and private talks after his 3 interviews in which he later claimed that Sathya Sai Baba touched him inappropriately and that SSB literally tranformed his genitals from male to female.


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
Tony O'Clery  1796
01-09-2007 06:51 PM ET (US)
The only person I know who claims to morph into reptiles is sb, who claims he was a snake, on one occasion, for whatever reason.
I believe that sb is a hermaphrodite and may have the hatha yoga/martial arts trick of being able to withdraw his genitals into his body.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1795
01-09-2007 06:48 PM ET (US)
/m1794

Yes, Tony should apply this to himself as he is the one pushing David Icke's reptilian nonsense as well as other ridiculous paranormal nonsense (and lies) about demons.
 
Also, Tony believes accusers who claim Sai Baba's genitalia supernaturally morphed from male to female! Tony tries to rationalize the accusers lies as hermaphrodism but hermaphrodism has absolutely nothing to do with their "supernatural" claims of morphing genitalia. Once again, Tony has been caught trying to put a square peg in a round hole and come out looking like a block head.

Grow up Tony, you sound like a perpetual drunk.
Tony O'Clery  1794
01-09-2007 01:17 PM ET (US)
True-believer syndrome
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True-believer syndrome is a term coined by M. Lamar Keene in his 1976 book The Psychic Mafia referring to an irrational belief in paranormal events, even after direct confession or evidence that the events were fraudulently staged. Keene, himself a reformed fraud medium,[1] exposed a number of other psychics, faith healers, and miracle workers; yet their followers only grew stronger. Keene came to see this inability to recognize fraud as a cognitive disorder.[2] He believed that the true-believer syndrome "merits study by science" and is the greatest thing PHONY mediums have going for them.[3] While the psychology of religion does study irrationality, the term "true believer syndrome" is not an accepted scientific term and mainstream psychologists, psychiatrists or doctors do not consider irrationality a cognitive disorder.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1793
01-09-2007 12:42 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 01-09-2007 12:42 PM
Tony 'Bologna' O'Clery admits he still suffers from "true-believer syndrome"! Too funny!

You just don't get it? Do you, Tony? On one hand, you can't be saying you don't suffer from "true believer syndrome" and on the other hand, profess belief in all these things. You try to present yourself as a rational and logical person (doing a very poor job at it, by the way) and you are utterly unconvincing considering that you hear voices in your head, claim you see dead people and claim that you enter demon trances! Keep babbling. It's very entertaining.

Anthony "Tony" O'Clery Exposed



QUOTABLE-QUOTES:
Anthony 'Tony' O'Clery:
"Stand in front of the mirror masturbating and think of sb, really think hard about him doing fellatio on you. You will first notice a big pair of rubber lips appearing in the astral then sb will be with you, inviting you to pn so you can be anally penetrated." (Reference)
Tony O'Clery  1792
01-09-2007 11:38 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 01-09-2007 11:40 AM
sb backs tony up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

The story on hiranyakasipu being able to send ships to the stars and manipulate matter, is also mentioned by sb in the sanathan sarathi magazine. Asral forms particularly of his mother are also stated by sb to be visiting the ashram. I don't believe that Moksha or becoming Nir Guna is unconscious but beyond consciousness and the manifestation of mind.

Atlantis and Lemuria are mentioned in the Hindu Puranas by different names such as Aswin and Lanka or similar.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1791
01-09-2007 02:48 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-18-2007 03:18 AM
/m1790

The scariest thing about Tony is that he "TRULY believes" he is going to teach anyone anything about advaita when he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about. He reads a couple of pages on the internet and thinks he is suddenly an expert on advaita. The nutter of negativity and pervert can't even keep his mind out of the gutter for five minutes yet thinks he is guru material. Pathetic! Can you imagine a Vedic Priest talking about sex the way Tony does? They would probably stone him to death as soon as he opened his disgusting mouth!

Tony O'Clery Banned from Advaitin Group
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1790
01-09-2007 02:18 AM ET (US)
Too funny~ Tony 'Bologna' O'Clery claims that he somehow broke free from his "true-believer syndrome" but still believes that he can see dead people and hear their voices in his head and that he enters demon trances. Tony O'Clery believes in: Atlantis and Lemuria, Edgar Cayce (a man called "The Sleeping Prophet" who had spirits speak through him), shape-shifting (literally changing one's physical body to that of an animal, bird, reptile or other creature), UFO's, aliens, alien abductions, reincarnation, black magic using semen, astral planes with astral beings, thought forms, psychic attacks, kundalini, psychics, mediums, karma, the mayan calendar apocalypse, talking to the dead (O'Cleary claimed he mentally spoke to and saw a dead person named "Eilish"), demon possession, channeling, prophecies, bilocation and believes that Hiranyakasipu (a mythological demon who is said to have existed millions of years ago) was able to manipulate matter completely and could create ships that could go to the stars! O'Clery believes that this mythological demon story can answer many questions about mankind's "roots"!

Yeah. That sounds to me that Tony 'Bolonga' O'Clery doesn't suffer from "true believer syndrome". Not! lol

Anthony "Tony" O'Clery Exposed



QUOTABLE-QUOTES:
Anthony 'Tony' O'Clery:
"Stand in front of the mirror masturbating and think of sb, really think hard about him doing fellatio on you. You will first notice a big pair of rubber lips appearing in the astral then sb will be with you, inviting you to pn so you can be anally penetrated." (Reference)
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1789
01-08-2007 11:56 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 02-29-2008 03:02 AM
/m1786


Tony, you seem to forget you were claiming to be a 'devotee' until the year 2000 and are documented singing Baba's praises on several internet message boards (see /m1779). Who can take a waffler like you seriously?


Your gossip tales are just like usedcrybaby's. All talk and NO proof. No names of anyone who can corroborate your ridiculous stories. No evidence of any sort. Just a bunch of HATE babble from a drunk.

Grow up Tony.



Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1788
01-08-2007 11:49 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-12-2008 02:14 AM
/m1785

Nobody else who has seen the amrit has changed their story Tony. A "glass" of amrit (which you describe in your testimonial (see /m1779)) could not possibly fit in that little amulet so either way you have LIED, as usual.
 
Not only that but I have the video, Man of Miracles (see link below), narrated by Rod Serling which shows the amrit and it is documented on film. The person in the film flips the object over in his hand several times so you can see there is no "tube" attached to it. He also holds it for quite a long time and viewers cans see the amrit continues to pour out of it.

You were NEVER a devotee Tony. You don't even begin to understand the meaning of the word. You are a "true believer" in your own lies and deceptions Tony. Apparently alcohol has done so much damage to your brain, you cannot even see your own lies and sickness. You are a VERY sick man Tony. VERY sick. You are TOTALLY in denial. You cannot even see that you are acting like a five year old, repeating the same childish tantrums over and over again for the whole world to see. The lies you are preaching have nothing to do with Baba at all. You are caught in your own alcoholic psychodrama and there you will stay until you die.


What is amazing (and also VERY suspicious) is that in spite of the miraculous experiences most anti-Sais have admitted to experiencing, the minute they heard something negative they did not bother to question the accusers as to the veracity of those accusations. Not even ONE of them bothered to ask any tough questions. This is how much 'FAITH' they had in themselves and their own experiences. All they had to do was hear the dreaded word 'molestation' and they folded like a deck of cards, totally letting their fear or something else control them.
 


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1787
01-08-2007 11:32 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-18-2007 03:24 AM
/m1784


The problem with your concept of moksha is that
your previous statements reveal that you perceive
nirguna brahman as a state of UNCONSCIOUSNESS!
This is utterly ridiculous and shows you have
absolutely no idea what you are talking about!

Read some of Tony's drivel:

Tony OClery 1313
08-03-2001 08:30 PM
Ultimately I also do not believe in a creator
god! That is Saguna and ultimately only Nirguna
is true. In fact realisation will show there
never was a creation or a you in the first place.

~~~~~~

It also shows that you don't bother to even TRY
and think things out to see if they actually make
sense! You just babble on trying to play guru
when you have NO business trying to teach anyone
anything about moksha since you do NOT understand
it OR nirguna/saguna yourself.

Nirguna is GOD dumbo! And so is nirguna + saguna
since God EQUALS the SUM of ALL Truth (the
absolute ENCOMPASSES/ INTERPENETRATES the
phenomenal world) great and small.

Moksha, or the liberation from body conciousness
does NOT lead to a state of UNconsciousness bozo.
It leads to the reunion with the Supreme or
Godself and a state of OMNSCIENCE, OMNIPRESENCE
and OMNIPOTENCE!

Please quit trying to play guru Tony. You are
STILL an unconscious alcoholic, NOT a guru. You
are a white man trying to play guru, nothing
more. Your statements CLEARLY show that you do
NOT even acknowledge God and your behavior shows
that, IN FACT, you have a very deep-seated hatred
of God. Look at your own self-hatred Tony. You
are caught in your own hate trap. All you preach is HATE Tony. HATE. HATE. HATE. You do NOT preach about LOVE or God Tony. Love and God are TOTALLY absent from your egoistic rantings.


Tony O'Clery Banned from Advaitin Group


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From Sivananda on Moksha:

The ultimate freedom which the soul attains in
Moksha is one of omnipresence, omniscience,
omnipotence and immortality, co-eternal with the
Absolute. The Upanishads and the Bhagavad Gita
declare that the soul, having attained
liberation, does not return to mortal life. The
liberated soul enters the Absolute, having been
freed from spatio-temporal limitations of every
kind. By restraint of the mind from indulgence in
the temptations of life, by devotion to the
Creator, and by knowledge that one's essential
being is identical with the Universal Substance,
the soul attains Moksha. This is the Supreme
Blessedness.
Tony O'Clery  1786
01-08-2007 06:36 PM ET (US)
jose mentira moreno wrote>Funny how you know all about these alleged and unverifiable prostitution, drug, sex and pedophile rings and you can even name locations. Makes one wonder why you didn't make any effort to prevent the sexual abuse of children when you allegedly knew these things were happening. So do tell us Tony, how exactly are you aware of these things? Were you involved in them?<

Pray tell to whom was I to report anything that I knew or suspected or was told? The Police? who were being paid by sb and had already murdered the students on his orders?
Tony O'Clery  1785
01-08-2007 12:28 PM ET (US)
When I was a devotee I was in true believer syndrom and deluded. On later examination I noticed the vibhuti at halagappas came from his spoon and small pocket like areas on the back of the medals.

This of course should have read amrit, or sugar water, not ash or vibhuti.
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