Edited by author 11-18-2007 03:24 AM
/m1784


The problem with your concept of moksha is that
your previous statements reveal that you perceive
nirguna brahman as a state of UNCONSCIOUSNESS!
This is utterly ridiculous and shows you have
absolutely no idea what you are talking about!

Read some of Tony's drivel:

Tony OClery 1313
08-03-2001 08:30 PM
Ultimately I also do not believe in a creator
god! That is Saguna and ultimately only Nirguna
is true. In fact realisation will show there
never was a creation or a you in the first place.

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It also shows that you don't bother to even TRY
and think things out to see if they actually make
sense! You just babble on trying to play guru
when you have NO business trying to teach anyone
anything about moksha since you do NOT understand
it OR nirguna/saguna yourself.

Nirguna is GOD dumbo! And so is nirguna + saguna
since God EQUALS the SUM of ALL Truth (the
absolute ENCOMPASSES/ INTERPENETRATES the
phenomenal world) great and small.

Moksha, or the liberation from body conciousness
does NOT lead to a state of UNconsciousness bozo.
It leads to the reunion with the Supreme or
Godself and a state of OMNSCIENCE, OMNIPRESENCE
and OMNIPOTENCE!

Please quit trying to play guru Tony. You are
STILL an unconscious alcoholic, NOT a guru. You
are a white man trying to play guru, nothing
more. Your statements CLEARLY show that you do
NOT even acknowledge God and your behavior shows
that, IN FACT, you have a very deep-seated hatred
of God. Look at your own self-hatred Tony. You
are caught in your own hate trap. All you preach is HATE Tony. HATE. HATE. HATE. You do NOT preach about LOVE or God Tony. Love and God are TOTALLY absent from your egoistic rantings.


Tony O'Clery Banned from Advaitin Group


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From Sivananda on Moksha:

The ultimate freedom which the soul attains in
Moksha is one of omnipresence, omniscience,
omnipotence and immortality, co-eternal with the
Absolute. The Upanishads and the Bhagavad Gita
declare that the soul, having attained
liberation, does not return to mortal life. The
liberated soul enters the Absolute, having been
freed from spatio-temporal limitations of every
kind. By restraint of the mind from indulgence in
the temptations of life, by devotion to the
Creator, and by knowledge that one's essential
being is identical with the Universal Substance,
the soul attains Moksha. This is the Supreme
Blessedness.

jose mentira moreno wrote>Funny how you know all about these alleged and unverifiable prostitution, drug, sex and pedophile rings and you can even name locations. Makes one wonder why you didn't make any effort to prevent the sexual abuse of children when you allegedly knew these things were happening. So do tell us Tony, how exactly are you aware of these things? Were you involved in them?<

Pray tell to whom was I to report anything that I knew or suspected or was told? The Police? who were being paid by sb and had already murdered the students on his orders?

When I was a devotee I was in true believer syndrom and deluded. On later examination I noticed the vibhuti at halagappas came from his spoon and small pocket like areas on the back of the medals.

This of course should have read amrit, or sugar water, not ash or vibhuti.

Moksha or moha kshya results in the end of the individual ego and all other transitory bodies like the astral etc. Even according to the teachings of sb. Well he contradicts himself all the time not being very bright. However he says that his mother visits him everyday and that iris murphet comes to. So they still have individual souls and therefore are not realised and don't have moksha----sb a liar and deceiver again.

When I was a devotee I was in true believer syndrom and deluded. On later examination I noticed the vibhuti at halagappas came from his spoon and small pocket like areas on the back of the medals.

Thanks for that info, C02000. I will update my Tony Bologna O'Clery's blog with it.

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Edited by author 06-14-2008 05:40 AM
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Tony, you sound just like a cult-like automaton who has true believer syndrome. You continually repeat your childish nonsense as if you are some wide-eyed child who believes the boogey man is coming to get him in the dark (mind you, Tony is a 62-3 year old man-child!). Grow up Tony. You sound like a nutcase. Funny that you are so blind that you cannot see how deluded, immature and cult-like you are. Thank God you left the organisation. It's wackos like you who give it a bad name.

Obviously you have ZERO connection to and LITTLE faith in God. Grow up and get a life. You are a fearmongering, boring, childish ingrate.

Moksha is NOT a limited state where the soul disappears and ceases to exist, dumbo. The soul is immortal (because conciousness is INFINITE INTELLIGENCE). All religions (except YOUR cult apparently) teach that the soul is immortal. Get it through your head and quit trying to play guru with your cult-like beliefs, lies and conspiracy theories which have NO basis in fact.

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Edited by author 01-08-2007 05:50 AM
/m1777

No you didn't Tony (maybe this is wishful thinking on your part as you seem to have a fixation regarding male sex organs). You are a blatant liar. We have your OWN words on record telling otherwise. WHY are you lying Tony? Is someone paying you to lie?

Read your own words and ruminate on what a fickle whore you are Tony:

"Greetings!

I also have seen vibhuti and amrit manifest as I watched. In Srirangapatna, I had lockets in the palm of my hand produce unending copious amounts of amrit.One tiny locket filled a glass below my hand. I
have seen the same thing elsewhere as well, where there is no room for trickery. Whether some of the manifestations are real or apports is really irrelevant. The biggest miracles are in the transformation of His devotees, I am an example, He took me off alcohol and introduced me to meditation and Vedanta, I am a huge sceptic. Unfortunately to a legal or critical eye, none of the accusations stand up, they are all hearsay. What about the
'wishfulfilling tree', at Prashanti that produced all kinds of different fruit. Also to a man who has produced a living breathing monkey in front of witnesses in the interview room. Anything is possible.
If He was the pervert that some accuse Him of being, he wouldn't need boys from the college, he could make His own, with no repercussions!!!!!!!I am still a Devotee but I have gone beyond needing a Guru. If this
is the case with some then go peacefully to your own contemplation, these attacks on Baba indicate your remaining intense attachment to Him. This is whom you will merge at death!! If there is any weakness in His organisation it is that devotees especially some executives do not follow his,'commandments', but thatis the egoistic human condition. This is a far more serious thing than debunking miracles, for these people are His representatives in the world so to speak. So WATCH! Most of what I see here on this site is unscientific, unacademic and hearsay from people who'se egoistic desires were not met by Swami in some way.

 Love and Sai Ram,Tony."


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Namaste All,

On the K-list, as most of you probably noticed, there was an attack on Sai Baba. He neither needs any praise or defence. The usual claims that he molests little boys etc. How the President and Prime Minister of India haven't noticed this I don't know!
Anyway I personally know the 'high profile'
individuals, who are travelling around doing this, Sweden, New York, Europe, Australia etc. There are complicated reasons why they are doing this and I can't mention them here.

After the battle of Lanka and the defeat of Ravana, one of Rama's generals came up and stated how happy he had been to
serve. Rama replied 'yes, but in your next life you will be my enemy.'

This is the concept of miracle-game or 'Leela'. One has to bear in mind 'all is one', even in this appearance upon The Self. It is the The Lord who plays both the friend and foe, demon and saint, for
whatever reason, inexplicable to our minds. Sometimes more can be done by a foe rather than a friend. Hatred, at least, is not indifference.

In the end result it is what one learns from the Guru, that is important. As Swami says." Don't be a devotee of My Form, but of My Teachings".

Love and Sai Ram, Tony."

Sb's mother and iris murphet are astral beings seen at the ashram and attested to by sb himself. This indicates sb is a liar and doesn't provide moksha. Die with his name on your lips and you end up a captive spirit on the astral for how long??????????????????

I had a narrow escape myself at pn, many many years ago. sb wanted to plant his sausage in me!!!!!!!!!1

Tony 'Bologna' O'Clery, and where is your proof of "pedophilia"? You have none. You are a conspiracy theorist and you believe you can hear and see dead people and that you can go into demon trances. lol

Funny how you know all about these alleged and unverifiable prostitution, drug, sex and pedophile rings and you can even name locations. Makes one wonder why you didn't make any effort to prevent the sexual abuse of children when you allegedly knew these things were happening. So do tell us Tony, how exactly are you aware of these things? Were you involved in them?

Anthony "Tony" O'Clery Exposed

QUOTABLE-QUOTES:
Anthony 'Tony' O'Clery:

"Stand in front of the mirror masturbating and think of sb, really think hard about him doing fellatio on you. You will first notice a big pair of rubber lips appearing in the astral then sb will be with you, inviting you to pn so you can be anally penetrated." (Reference)

Edited by author 01-07-2007 05:47 AM
This page will show what a fraud and hypocrite usedbybaba aka usedcrybaby is:

USEDBYBABA EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED
ANONYMOUS WHACKO ATTACKING SAI BABA

At least Joe is MAN enough to give his FULL name, unlike cowardly usedcrybaby, the thugster. Usedbybaba doesn't "discuss" anything, He just GOSSIPS, LIES, plays mind games, accuses, abuses and projects all of his own sordid behaviors onto everyone else so he doesn't have to take responsibility for them. Don't let his self-deluded manipulations fool you. Most likely usedbybaba has a criminal history (of fraud) a mile long.

Edited by author 01-05-2007 07:24 PM
These messages will show what a fraud Joe and His friend Lisa are.

/m1743 – Joe’s so called “usedbybaba exposed” and My reply
/m1760—joe’s love for biker babies
/m1759—joe tries to confuse on what Veer Sangvi wrote in Hindustan Times
/m1748 – coo2 is put on truth serum
/m1746- proof that Lisa cannot discuss but only abuse
/m1719—Real meaning of WATCH – watch your words etc.,
/m1713 – SB on truth serum
/m1710 – SB on truth serum again
/m1706 – SB’s Advice to Lisa, When he was intoxicated
/m1702 – SB notices Lisa trying to find out about usedbybaba
/m1696 – Present Warden of Prashantinilayam(was also molested)
/m1695- SB if is put on truth serum

Edited by author 03-13-2008 12:47 AM
/m1771

No Tony it doesn't describe Sai Baba's behavior at all. It does show clearly what a pervert YOU are to think it is PERFECTLY ok to continuously LIE and talk like a PERVERT in public. Funny that you are SO out of touch with REALITY that you cannot see this. That you have absolutely NO sense of moral boundaries when it comes to babbling in public. In short, it shows that you spent far too many years in bars and that you think it is PERFECTLY ok to talk like a bar fly. That's what your foul language shows NORMAL PEOPLE who have common sense, Tony.

Edited by author 03-07-2008 10:05 PM
/m1766
 
Too funny, Tony is so desperate he is going back into the annals of time to recycle and regurgitate garbage from David Icke's website (now moved to Hidden Mysteries after Icke was sued for defamation) that was processed several years ago by the courts. The anti-Sais have not shown ANY court documents which support their contention that the hospital, or any doctor, was connected to ANY kidney racket. Poor Tony has such a bad case of true believer syndrome he has become obsessively paranoid and is creating conspiracy theories to try and rationalize his bad choices and obsession with having to be right. Tony is so obsessed with having to be right he will lie over and over again and even destroy what little reputation he had for his addiction to being right.

If Tony doesn't face reality soon he may have to check himself into a mental hospital.

It's really ok to be WRONG Tony. It is more "wrong" and damaging to your mental health to lie in order to continue on in your obsession with having to be right. The world is not going to end if you are wrong, Tony.



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