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Sanjay,I understand that you are trying to say that people in and around Puttaparthi knew of Shirdi baba,much before Sathya saibaba declared himself to be a reincarnation of Shirdi Baba.You maybe right, but how does it prove that Sathya sai is not Shirdi sai? Nor does it prove otherwise.
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12-22-2006 07:33 AM ET (US)
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Lisa,I want to know more about Sathya Sai Baba.If you keep abusing people ,where would we get to the truth.I would like to believe that Sathya sai and Shirdi sai are one and the same,but you are not putting up any point to discuss this.What is the point? I feel that as a Devotee of Shirdi Baba, I want to know more of Sathya Sai. Please help me prove that Sathya Sai baba is an incarnation of Shirdi baba,though I do not know what exactly is the fact. I have copied so many abuses in your mails. Why are you so angry. Sanjay and others would have abused,but is it worth following. Don't we have the proof to prove him wrong. Why should we be afraid. The follwing is just from a few messages of yours. Can we talk sense here.
"the dork Get over it crybaby. Go whine to your mommy childish drooling go see a shrink your cowardly accusers are ALL grown men who are LIARS bozo. ignoramus. you are too dumb Your journalists are flunkies what liars you guys are naive journalists look like fools obsessive hysteria and lies your idiocy is exposed dumbo yours is nothing but ad hominem hypocrisy. You are pathetic. You are projecting your own garbage A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR drugs, alcohol or both that enable so many of you conscienceless dregs. abusive behavior, lies and PERVERSIONS it's none of your business pervert so you are a LYING pervert. It's NONE of your business PERVERT Tony baloney your racist-sounding drivel betrays You need to see a shrink immature adolescent who just can't grow up Mind your own business pervert before you end up in jail"
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12-22-2006 12:21 PM ET (US)
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"Father," my sister said most imprudently, "we thank you for your proposal. But at our age we have no inclination to have ourselves locked up in a cloister in order to be whores for priests, weve had enough of that already."
The Superior renewed his arguments, he spoke with a heat and energy which illustrated his powerful desire to have the thing succeed; finally observing that it was destined to fail, he hurled himself almost in a fury upon my sister.
"Very well, little whore," he cried, "at least satisfy me once again before I take my leave."
And unbuttoning his breeches, he got astride her; she offered no resistance, persuaded that by allowing him to have his way shed be rid of him all the sooner. And the smutty fellow, pinning her between his knees, began to brandish and then to abuse a tough and rather stout engine, advancing it to within a quarter of an inch of my sisters face.
"Pretty face," he gasped, "pretty little whores face, how Ill soak it in my fuck, by sweet Jesus!"
And therewith the sluices opened, the sperm flew out, and the entirety of my sisters face, especially her nose and mouth, were covered with evidence of our visitors libertinage, whose passion might not have been so cheaply satisfied had his design in coming to us met with success. More complacent now, the man of Gods only thoughts were of escape; after having flung a crown upon the table and relit his lantern:
"You little fools, you are little tramps," he told us. "You are ruining your chances in this world; may Heaven punish your folly by causing you to fall on evil days, and may I have the pleasure of seeing you in misery; that would be my revenge, that is what I wish you."
My sister, busy wiping her face, paid him back his stupidities in kind, and, our door shutting behind the Superior, we spent the remainder of the night in peace.
"Youve just seen one of his favorite stunts," said my sister. "Hes mad about discharging in girls faces. If he only confined himself to that... but the scoundrel has a good many other eccentricities, and some of them are so dangerous that I do indeed fear..."
But my sister was sleepy, she dozed off without completing her sentence, and the morrow bringing fresh adventures with it, we gave no more thought to that one.
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12-22-2006 12:37 PM ET (US)
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12-22-2006 01:19 PM ET (US)
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Marquis de Sade /m1603 This is sick.
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12-22-2006 01:29 PM ET (US)
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Sathya Sai Baba has never been proven to be a "charlatan".
Sathya Sai Baba has never been convicted of any crime.
Sathya Sai Baba has never been charged with any crime.
Sathya Sai Baba has never had even one single complaint lodged against him by any alleged victim, first-hand, in India. As a matter of fact, not even one alleged victim has even tried to file a basic police complaint or court case against Sathya Sai Baba in India (the only place where courts would have jurisdiction over Baba as an individual defendent).
In India,MONEY = JUSTICE.So we cannot take this route.Till the 80s there were smugglers and gangsters running Bombay.Even now,big organisations(it maybe (political,business,religious or any other)can get people killed. Please read a lot about India.
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12-22-2006 02:11 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 12-22-2006 02:14 PM
In Defence Of Sathya Sai Baba Damage Control Kicks Into High Gear Blog Index Of Articles This Month The Truth About Vir Sanghvi Sanjay Worships Pink, Girly & Gay Gods Sanjay Rekindling His Love For Sathya Sai Baba Bhaktivedanta Manor, Sanjay Dadlani And 3G Sanjay's Disgusting Feces Obsession Sanjay's "Stalking" Paranoia Sanjay's "Direct Experience" Of Sathya Sai Baba's Godhood
Joe 108.I am not able to understand what way these are about Sathya sai Baba,except the last one.
On vir sangvi you have said he is wrong on calling the 2006 birth day of baba as his 80th.I wonder how it matters.
I did not read these : Sanjay Worships Pink, Girly & Gay Gods Sanjay Rekindling His Love For Sathya Sai Baba Bhaktivedanta Manor, Sanjay Dadlani And 3G Sanjay's Disgusting Feces Obsession Sanjay's "Stalking" Paranoia
because they are in no way connceted to baba.If they are related to baba please mention
You wrote about usedbybaba as follows:
Apparently, "usedbybaba" can't make up his mind whether students he claimed he personally knew truly suffered or "seemed" to suffer. He also can't make up his mind if he was really abused by Baba or if he simply "shuddered" at the thought of being abused by Baba. "UsedByBaba" said on the Quicktopic forum:
"Some students seem to have suffered a lot.I shudder the thought of being molested by senior students and also by baba. I would have gone bonkers."
We have to ask 'usedbybaba', what he meant by this
I did read about Tony being involved in racialism,but I did not see his name.Did he write in any other name? Is there any proof? If it is true,It is not good.
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12-22-2006 02:37 PM ET (US)
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I see Tony has found another warped playmate in usedbyaba aka usedcrybaby. Ah, the freakzoids just can't stop playing their sicko mind games can they? Pathetic isn't it? They all belong in the looney bin. Perverts everyone of them.
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12-22-2006 03:10 PM ET (US)
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sanjay you say 'And more lies about the Alaya Rahm court case; it "flopped" for very good legal reasons and not at all why the unauthorised SB-defenders are saying."
What legal reasons??
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12-22-2006 03:14 PM ET (US)
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I hope nobody is against Shirdi Baba.It is believed that if some on wants his desires fulfilled,he/she should read Sai Satcharitha atlesat three times without a gap. His/Her desires will be fulcilled for sure.I have experience of this.
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12-22-2006 04:09 PM ET (US)
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The difficulty of Al Rahm's suit was that there was really nobody to sue, no consistent legal entity. sb lives in India and is too petrified to come to the west in case the affidavits are served on him. As you know anyone with money or influence would not be prosecuted in India. It was really as simple as that.
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12-22-2006 04:13 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 12-22-2006 04:37 PM
I have been accused by jose geraldo mentira moreno or joe 108, of writing on an Irish White Power site. This is not true but they did quote some of my writing on pro secularism. Why they quoted me I'm not sure, considering it was anti sectarian. Joes says I am cas but the bio doesn't fit me or my parents. I don't live in Ireland and wasn't born there. It is just another fabrication from the followers of sathya fudgepacker. Here is a url to a BBC report on human rights in Asia being affected by weak legal systems. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061222/wl_as...rights_061222081957
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12-22-2006 10:18 PM ET (US)
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Ha ha, if Joe is attempting to "convict" Tony because his writing was posted on a White Power site, then we can convict Lisa De Witt for the fact that her writings were posted on various pro-marijuana groups. :-)
Meera, I am not against Shirdi Sai baba as I have a very great respect for him. In fact I first heard of him after watching the famous movie starring Sudheer Dalavi and I visited Shirdi in 1990. Re your question about my article, the thing that we have to remember is that reincarnation itself cannot be scientifically proven. If anybody wants to believe that Sathya Sai is the reincarnation of Shirdi Sai, that is their faith and their own belief.
My angle is that some basic history about Sathya Sai should be known; he rose to fam after shamelessly arrogating the name and fame of Shirdi Sai Baba. If you speak to any Sathya devotee or read any books about Sathya, you will find that his claims of reincarnation are taken for granted. According to the official story, he announced it literally out of the blue and even confirmed his "identity" with Shirdi Sai in print to a media journalist. There are lots of "facts" that "prove" how Sathya is Shirdi's reincarnation so much so that it is taken for granted.
But thanks to new information (as per my articles), we have just discovered that Sathya was a liar. We are expected to believe (from official sourceS) that no one in Sathya's area had even heard of Shirdi Baba much less know who he was. What we know now is that Shirdi Sai Baba was not only well known in the area, but that young Sathya was a devotee of Shirdi Baba! Two of his uncles were confirmed devotees, and Sathya himself regularly attended Shirdi bhajans at the house of relatives and friends. When there are such glaring discrepancies between the facts and the 'official' version, how can we take his claims of reincarnation seriously? He is a liar, plain and simple.
What would have been the harm if Sathya's biographers had included this information in their books? They specifically chose to cover it up despite the fact that many of Sathya's contemporaries may well have testified. They did this to trim down the story and inculcate a myth. Sathya's fame has grown from there, declaring himself as the reincarnation of Shirdi Sai Baba at a time when there were many such "reincarnations". Sathya was not doing anything unusual or unique, a lot of people were claiming to be Shirdi's reincarnation. Apparently this didn't satisfy him, because soon enough he was claiming to be G-O-D, an avatar walking the earth.
I just feel sorry for the people who believe all this rubbish. I believed it, but now mine eyes hath seen the light.
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12-22-2006 10:24 PM ET (US)
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By the way, I forgot to mention that the famous B.V. Narasimha Swamiji (Shirdi Sai amabassador) met Sathya and analysed his claims. Obviously Sathya did not deserve much attention despite all the little "miracles" he was doing, and the Shirdi Sansthan accept that there is no need for a reincarnation since Shirdi Sai Baba's grace is apparently still available from his tomb, according to the reports and experiences of devotees and even Shirdi's own words.
Shirdi himself stated in many places that after his death he would still be active from his tomb, answering prayers and whatnot. So, what need for a reincarnation?
I'd also like to thank you for recognising the uselessness of Joe108 and CO2000 right off the bat. You are seeing first-hand their utter incapability of presenting a rational argument in discussion, and their pre-eminent strategy solely consists of personal attacks that have no meaning. They are angry that they are incapable of defending Sathya and simply choose to abuse us instead.
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12-22-2006 10:27 PM ET (US)
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Meera, for your question about the legal case, it has all been answered here. Happy reading! :-)
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12-22-2006 11:24 PM ET (US)
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/m1612Tony, we have proof of you posting on many Irish message boards. You're not fooling anyone with a brain. And please stop talking like the disgusting pervert you are. Just shows once again what a weirdo you are.
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12-22-2006 11:32 PM ET (US)
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/m1611Are you really this dumb Tony? It is oh so obvious Alaya Rahm LIED when he said the Society was involved in paying for his trip to India (just like he lied about having witnesses who would testify on his behalf) because Kreydick paid for his ticket! Like I said, it doesn't surprise me that a liar like you would side with all the other liars. Just like you are blind to your own sexual perversions, you are blind to your own lies. Better straighten your perverted act out Tony. Your past is catching up with you in more ways than one.
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12-23-2006 04:40 AM ET (US)
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Edited by author 12-23-2006 06:55 AM
MEERA = USEDBYBABA = USEDCRYBABYThe mind games with usedcrybaby never end.
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12-23-2006 06:44 AM ET (US)
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I am Meera Powar from Matunga in Mumbai. I am not anyone else.We are basically from Maharashtra and have been devotees of Sai Baba of shirdi. I am a woman with 2 children.My husband is working in a private firm as a Sales Manager. If co2000 is not interested in answering my questions, no problem. I am here as a devotee of Shirdi Baba and I hope this is not wrong.I would be very happy to know whether Sathya Sai baba is the incarnation of Shirdi Sai.My neighbours,Mohan Athre and his wife Priya are devotees of Sathya sai baba. This aroused my curiosity. If someone finds my questions wrong they can tell me. I am neither used nor un used by baba.
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12-23-2006 06:56 AM ET (US)
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/m1615 This is too big. I am speaking of the article about the cas against Sathya sai. From what tony wrote and from what I read in your article,I can make out that that according to you both, Sathya Sai Baba should be in West or U.S to be prosecuted. I am sure there must be a provision to send a notice to anyone anwhere in the world. Why such a provision if available has not been used. I also wonder how Sathya Sai baba is having such a large following.
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12-23-2006 07:01 AM ET (US)
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You're nothing but an abusive game player usedcrybaby. Anybody with brains can see you for the demented fool you are from a thousand miles away. Get some help before you end up in jail.
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12-23-2006 07:10 AM ET (US)
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Tony, we have proof of you posting on many Irish message boards. You're not fooling anyone with a brain.
Can I request co2000 to give me the same.
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12-23-2006 07:47 AM ET (US)
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usedbybaba, why are you posting as Meera?
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12-23-2006 11:32 AM ET (US)
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lisa wrote<<<<<<<<Tony, we have proof of you posting on many Irish message boards. You're not fooling anyone with a brain.........>>>>>>>>> I actually only wrote on the ireland uncensored board which is now defunct, most on there were either loyalists or nationalists. I was really neither but was not a loyalist orange order member that's for sure. I'm not a racist by any means, as my membership in the early anti apartheid movement would indicate. I also have an adopted Indian brother and sister.My family is much intermarried with other races etc. Racism is an easy charge for me to refute. I'm a Democratic Socialist of sorts and was a member of various socialist parties in my time.So I am hardly a white power nut. If you really want to see how I think. go to my webpage.. http://www.geocities.com/aocleryIf you click on politico conspiracy files you will see my 'New Constitution'.
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12-23-2006 11:33 AM ET (US)
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12-23-2006 11:40 AM ET (US)
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Namaste,
Rishis, Sages, Muktas, Amsa Avatars, Avatars, Karana Janmas, Bhodisattvas are for ALL. Jesus's appearance was a blessed event.
So a Happy and Merry Christmas to ALL...Love Tony.
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* Alaya Rahm Self-Dismissed His Own Lawsuit Against The Sathya Sai Baba Society * A Scathing Response To Critics About Alaya Rahm's Failed Lawsuit
You seem to be making a point that Alaya rahm was greedy for money and so the case,even if it was true,failed. How come there are abosolutely two different views? both yours and Sanjay's are too long for me to patiently read through. If there are just a few points, it would be easy to understand. We are lay people,so long elaborate web pages are actually confusing. One thing that I understood is,both of you are giving totally different views for why this case was dismissed. You say it was his greed and Sanjay says it was because Sathya sai baba is inIndia? I don't know whom to believe.
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lisa wrote<<<<<<<<Tony, we have proof of you posting on many Irish message boards. You're not fooling anyone with a brain.........>>>>>>>>>
Tony are you saying she is wrong? Then on what basis is lisa and others writing that you are a racial peorson? My question is did you ever visit the web site that was mentioned. What was your role or did you ever see this site before they accused you of racialism. I saw the site and was surprised to see such a site legally running. Maybe some white people are feeling that their space as so called supirior people is being taken over by others. This sort of hatred for a community exists all over the world.Shirdi baba's main objective was to bring Muslims and Hindus together.Even now the hatered between these communities are pretty high in our state.
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12-23-2006 01:40 PM ET (US)
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usedbybaba, why are you posting as Meera?
Angel,I am Meera Powar posting as Meera.
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sure you are.
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12-23-2006 04:41 PM ET (US)
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Meera wrote."Tony are you saying she is wrong? Then on what basis is lisa and others writing that you are a racial peorson? My question is did you ever visit the web site that was mentioned. What was your role or did you ever see this site before they accused you of racialism."
I had never seen the site before joe moreno was posting it all over the place. As you can see sb devotees are very dishonest, they cannot answer the charges against sb so the attack us.
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As you can see sb devotees are very dishonest
All devotees are not dishonest.I told you of my neighbours, who are very nice people.
You are saying that youare not racial.I believe you for the present. Ofcourse if they have proof and if they furnish it,I have to change my idea.I hope you are what you say and you seem sincere.
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/m1624No, Tony, you didn't "just" write on the Ireland Uncensored board. Once again, you are not telling the truth.
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/m1632You've been shown the truth Usedbybaba and you continue to lie about it. No honest WOMAN would look at the perversities you have been shown regarding saibabaexposed and O'Clery and act so blase about it. The fact that you could care less about their vulgarity and lies reveals who you are (a man who is a PERVERT).
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Alaya Rahm Self-Dismissed His Own Lawsuit Against The Sathya Sai Baba Society
This message by joe is quite convincing.It looks like Alahya Rahm did nothing to prove his case against Sathya Sai Baba.It looks as though money was his motivation. I am sure,there are provisions in the U.S law which can at the least send a judicial order or something like that to Sathya Sai Baba.This would have proved that Alaya was really trying to prove something.
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I Wish you all a Happy and Merry Christmas.
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Meera, please don't forget that Joe108 has no information about anything in the Sathya Sai Baba controversy. Everything that he has to say are fetid speculations gleaned from material on Expose sites. His "scathing" response is more like a laughable response, which is why I have not even bothered to respond to it. The Sai Organisation are also putting out disinformation (in their RadioSai magazine) to bolster the devotees to believe their own story.
The case "failed" because it wasn't legally possible to sue Sai Baba and/or his organisation in America, it's as simple as that. The Rahm's lawyer specifically outlined what it would take to convict Sai Baba/Organisation, a legal process that would take far too long during which the Baba might kick the bucket as he is already too old and weak and is not expected to live for too long. That's all.
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Satya Sai Baba caught in British controversyIndo-Asian News Service London, December 22, 2006 Satya Sai Baba, one of India's best known spiritual leaders, has triggered a fresh controversy in Britain after association with The Duke of Edinburgh's Award charity involving young people. The Duke of Edinburgh's Award is a London-headquartered charity whose patron is Prince Philip. It gives three kinds of awards (bronze, silver and gold) to anyone aged between 14-25 for achievements in four categories: community service, skills, physical recreation and expeditions. Each year it is estimated that over 2,25,000 youngsters vie for the honour in Britain alone. This year, when the charity celebrates its 50th year, it has chosen to send about 200 young volunteers to India to work with the Sri Satya Sai Organisation. However, the feat, pulled off by Sai Youth UK, a division of the parent body, has created a furore. Several people, including some of the Satya Sai Baba's former Western disciples, questioned the decision in view of the mixed reputation the godman enjoys. Sai's devotees deny the allegations. The Guardian was the first to raise its voice saying the award scheme had chosen as its accredited partner a spiritual group "whose 'living god' founder has been accused of sexually abusing young boys". Satya Sai Baba hit bad press in Britain two years ago when a BBC programme, The Secret Swami, interviewed young Western disciples who alleged that the godman had sexually coerced them. The Guardian quoted Tom Sackville, a former Home Office minister and chairman of Fair, a cult-watching and victim support group, as saying: "It is appallingly naive for the award scheme to involve young people and the royal family with an organisation whose leader is accused of paedophilia. Parents who plan to send their children on this pilgrimage... should be aware of the danger their children are being exposed to." The daily also said Michael Gave, a conservative MP, planned to write to the charity to say it should monitor the organisations they chose as partners more strictly. "As a society we need a more determined effort to identify and expose those religious cults and extremists that pose a direct threat to people, so that they do not enjoy patronage that should be directed elsewhere," he was quoted as saying. In the 1990s, when Prince Charles visited India, he had expressed a desire to visit the Sai Baba but was quietly dissuaded by the British Embassy in New Delhi. Since The Guardian's article, it was reported that there was mounting pressure on the charity to distance itself from the Sai group. However, charity spokesperson Shona Taylor did not answer repeated queries as to whether the volunteers had left for India and how they could be contacted. - Hindustan Times :-) Also carried at: KeralaNext.Com, India4u.Com, Nerve.In, IBNLive.Com ("Brit Boys To Keep Off Sai Baba's Reach"), and WorldWide Religious News. :-) Yes indeed, a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too Meera. :-)
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12-23-2006 11:15 PM ET (US)
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Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") said, "The case "failed" because it wasn't legally possible to sue Sai Baba and/or his organisation in America". Amen. Finally got your information right. But what you forget to tell everyone is that Alaya Rahm's lawyer not only accepted the case, he pursued it for 16 months only to conclude that the Society was a bookstore and could not be sued! Alaya attempted to sue Goldstein and failed. Alaya attempted to sue Sathya Sai Baba (in the wrong country) and failed. Alaya's last ditch effort was to sue the Society (in the wrong country) and failed. Not even one single witness came forward to defend Alaya or support him in any way. Not even one other alleged victim! Instead of wasting so much time in America filing useless court cases, the Rahm's should have filed a court case in India (which would have generated immense publicity). Too late, they dismissed their case "with prejudice"! The only reason why Anti-Sai Activists have not responded to my scathing response is because they have already stuck all their feet in their mouths and can't find any more room to stick more feet in! Of course, Sanjay will spin everything with his typical garrulous replies and deflection tactics and repeat his monotoned rhetoric like a brainless automaton (no surprise there). This whole issue has been nothing less than a total embarrassment for the Anti-Sai Movement. If you listen carefully, you can hear them sobbing amidst the gnashing of their teeth :-) * Alaya Rahm Self-Dismissed His Own Lawsuit Against The Sathya Sai Baba Society* A Scathing Response To Critics About Alaya Rahm's Failed Lawsuit
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Yawn. As I said before, Joe108 knows nothing about the legal case. The full explanation (complete with information from the Rahm's lawyer, is contained here. More lies as usual, several witnesses were going to be called. Too bad Joe108 didn't know about it, he knows nothing. :-)
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Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") everyone knows why you are gloating over the press received about The Guardian article. You were the one who boasted that you were directly involved with it and predicted its publication 6 months before it came out! Paul Lewis' Hidden Bias In The Guardian UK NewspaperSanjay said about this article, on this forum: "Want to talk about blindness? I warned you fools about this months ago, but you're way too thick to pick up the hints. I even warned you months in advance about the BBC movie, and you were too thick to pick up the hints about that too. Nothing has changed even two years later. :-)...We already knew about this issue months before the date pf publication of course. In fact it was mooted as a front-page story, but at the last minute a development in a legal issue involving PM Tony Blair took precedence and the Sai Baba article was moved to Page 3. No matter, open the paper and it all goes BOOM! in your face...How did you like the distractions, Moreno? Sorry I couldn't take part while I was busy participating in this development...We run the Exposé and the Exposé continues...And yes, I know all about what has gone on behind the scenes. This is the stuff I am working on while you idiots are arguing endlessly over who's a bigger pervert than who when the biggest pervert of all (Sai Baba) has just been exposed today (Saturday 4th November 2006) in a very nice Page 3 spread in a highbrow British newspaper like The Guardian. Of course, I already know which page it's on even though I don't have it yet." Of course, now Sanjay is attempting to say that he wasn't as involved as he formerly claimed he was. More feet in mouth :-)
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In the meantime, suck on this: "In the 1990s, when Prince Charles visited India, he had expressed a desire to visit the Sai Baba but was quietly dissuaded by the British Embassy in New Delhi."Gee I wonder why? Maybe it had something to do with this. :-)
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More pathological lies from Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED"). If other witnesses were going to be called, they would have had to be identified to the court for cross examination and obtaining depositions. NO witnesses were identified to the court on Alaya Rahm's behalf and neither Sanjay Dadlani or any other Anti-Sai Activist can provide even one single court record that supports their erroneous claims that witnesses for Alaya Rahm were going to be called. Of course, these are the same people who claimed that Kreydick's deposition was not part of the official court record until I proved them wrong.... again. Yawn on that Sanjay. * Alaya Rahm Self-Dismissed His Own Lawsuit Against The Sathya Sai Baba Society* A Scathing Response To Critics About Alaya Rahm's Failed Lawsuit
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/m1639The anti-Sai "true believers" can only run to journalists to do their bidding and carry on their campaign of lies. Apparently they can't even find an atheist lawyer (advocate) in India to help them file charges! I wonder why. Too funny. And Sanjay's head is getting so big I'm surprised he can fit through the door... "We run the expose and the expose continues." Too funny (roll eyes). What a wannabe nerd. The only thing Sanjay is good at is running his mouth like he has diarrhea.
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Nice deflection tactic Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED"). Nice to see you are keeping the rumor mill running, all the while failing to provide any verifiable proof to your absurd claims. Notice the pattern?
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That's right Moreno, read hidden messages and take my words out of context as you usually do. :-) You are proving to the whole world that your articles are based on nothing but fetid speculations from Expose websites and/or critics' words. Thank you for proving me right. :-) Bear in mind that this is a new article by the Hindustan Times. :-) And the only reason you are even allowed to post here is because you post on two unmoderated forums. You are thrown out everywhere else (three times in a row from the same forum!) because you are an undisciplined troublemaker who annoys everyone, just as you are doing here. :-) Sai Baba's name is ruined all over the world now, you just can't get to grips with reality can you?
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When it comes to hearsay and unconfirmed rumors about what Sathya Sai Baba allegedly said about Princess Diana and Prince Charles, Anti-Sai Activists turn into gossip queen and report these rumors like tabloid sensationalists. However, when it comes to Said Afshin Khorramshahgol and his rubbishing (with proof) of the much beloved Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother, Ronald Reagan and all US Presidents as "morons" ( Ref), Anti-Sai Activists act deaf and say the discussion is about Sathya Sai Baba and not their perversions, defamations and untruths. Shameless hypocrites.
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Aww, Sheba comes to back up Solomon. Sahme they don't know that at least two witnesses (Diana Payne and Mark Roche, latter featured in sensational BBC documentary) were prepared to testify in court. Too bad Moreno knows nothing about the court case, except for what his friends in the Sai organisation have told him. :-) Face it, Sai Baba has just been exposed... again. Satya Sai Baba caught in British controversyIndo-Asian News Service London, December 22, 2006 Satya Sai Baba, one of India's best known spiritual leaders, has triggered a fresh controversy in Britain after association with The Duke of Edinburgh's Award charity involving young people. The Duke of Edinburgh's Award is a London-headquartered charity whose patron is Prince Philip. It gives three kinds of awards (bronze, silver and gold) to anyone aged between 14-25 for achievements in four categories: community service, skills, physical recreation and expeditions. Each year it is estimated that over 2,25,000 youngsters vie for the honour in Britain alone. This year, when the charity celebrates its 50th year, it has chosen to send about 200 young volunteers to India to work with the Sri Satya Sai Organisation. However, the feat, pulled off by Sai Youth UK, a division of the parent body, has created a furore. Several people, including some of the Satya Sai Baba's former Western disciples, questioned the decision in view of the mixed reputation the godman enjoys. Sai's devotees deny the allegations. The Guardian was the first to raise its voice saying the award scheme had chosen as its accredited partner a spiritual group "whose 'living god' founder has been accused of sexually abusing young boys". Satya Sai Baba hit bad press in Britain two years ago when a BBC programme, The Secret Swami, interviewed young Western disciples who alleged that the godman had sexually coerced them. The Guardian quoted Tom Sackville, a former Home Office minister and chairman of Fair, a cult-watching and victim support group, as saying: "It is appallingly naive for the award scheme to involve young people and the royal family with an organisation whose leader is accused of paedophilia. Parents who plan to send their children on this pilgrimage... should be aware of the danger their children are being exposed to." The daily also said Michael Gave, a conservative MP, planned to write to the charity to say it should monitor the organisations they chose as partners more strictly. "As a society we need a more determined effort to identify and expose those religious cults and extremists that pose a direct threat to people, so that they do not enjoy patronage that should be directed elsewhere," he was quoted as saying. In the 1990s, when Prince Charles visited India, he had expressed a desire to visit the Sai Baba but was quietly dissuaded by the British Embassy in New Delhi. Since The Guardian's article, it was reported that there was mounting pressure on the charity to distance itself from the Sai group. However, charity spokesperson Shona Taylor did not answer repeated queries as to whether the volunteers had left for India and how they could be contacted. - Hindustan Times :-) Also carried at: KeralaNext.Com, India4u.Com, Nerve.In, IBNLive.Com ("Brit Boys To Keep Off Sai Baba's Reach"), and WorldWide Religious News. :-)
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Awww look at Gerald Moreno trying so hard to sound like an expert again. What a shame he cannot defend the indefensible gossip-queening that takes place around Sai Baba. Apparently everyone with any stature who comes to see him is automatically a "devotee", including Steven Seagal of all people. Ha ha ha, unbelievable.
And now Moreno wants to make a case against Afshin having an opinion about some heads of state? LOL, let me inform Moreno that a large proportion of the British Public rubbish the Royal Family, write another website all about that! :-) Unbelievable desperation, castigating Afshin for having an opinion. LOL, I need say no more as Gerald Moreno is fully capable of presenting himself as a fool on the world's stage, as he has been doing for so long already. :-)
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Ha ha ha ha ha, the whole world thinks Bush is a moron. Maybe Gerald will write another page about I have just rubbished "beloved" Bush. LOL.
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Yeah, right, Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED")! Do tell us how everyone is taking your words out of context when you gloated yourself that you worked on that article and that Anti-Sai Activists knew of the article "months" before its publication. You even cited a post from a Yahoo Group 6 months before the article as proof that you warned us of the coming newspaper publication in The Guardian. You are a big fat liar and no one believes you. This is the reason why I don't engage Sangay Dadlani in discussions. All he does is deflect, deny and change the topic (besides garbling like a motormouth ad nauseam). Sanjay said about The Guardian article, on this forum: "Want to talk about blindness? I warned you fools about this months ago, but you're way too thick to pick up the hints. I even warned you months in advance about the BBC movie, and you were too thick to pick up the hints about that too. Nothing has changed even two years later. :-)...We already knew about this issue months before the date pf publication of course. In fact it was mooted as a front-page story, but at the last minute a development in a legal issue involving PM Tony Blair took precedence and the Sai Baba article was moved to Page 3. No matter, open the paper and it all goes BOOM! in your face...How did you like the distractions, Moreno? Sorry I couldn't take part while I was busy participating in this development...We run the Exposé and the Exposé continues...And yes, I know all about what has gone on behind the scenes. This is the stuff I am working on while you idiots are arguing endlessly over who's a bigger pervert than who when the biggest pervert of all (Sai Baba) has just been exposed today (Saturday 4th November 2006) in a very nice Page 3 spread in a highbrow British newspaper like The Guardian. Of course, I already know which page it's on even though I don't have it yet." Paul Lewis' Hidden Bias In The Guardian UK Newspaper
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Ah Sanjay, defending your Anti-Sai Friends although they giggle at you and your public exposures behind your back (just like several Middlesex Univerisity Students). You propagate rumors against Sathya Sai Baba that you cannot prove in any way and think this is admirable. Nobody thinks liars are admirable, except Anti-Sai Activists. Hence their admiration of you :-)
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I'm wondering why anti- Sais are so dumb as to waste their time in a battle where the very suspicious accusers (who are all grown men and obvious liars hiding out unless there are cameras or journalists to kiss their butts and throw them softball questions) won't even lift a finger to fight for themselves. They never consulted a lawyer. They never even tried to file charges. And now they are doing practically nothing to help the "cause" except for lending their name in a useless battle. Sounds pretty dumb and suspicious to me. I certainly wouldn't waste my time on someone who wasn't willing to put their money and muscle where their mouth is. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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Everything that he has to say are fetid speculations gleaned from material on Expose sites. His "scathing" response is more like a laughable response, which is why I have not even bothered to respond to it.
Sanjay, I feel you should respond to his allegations. If that is not done,how can we get the truth, I agree that you are able to clearly say that there are a lot of things that are not alright with Sathya sai baba,butdon't you think that we should have more evidence.Of course you are able to demolish the view that people did not know about Shrdi sai baba in puttaparthi area when Sathya Sai Baba was in his teens. As far as Alhaya rahm is concerrned,both you and joe seem to be in agreement on the fact that the case did not go through because of technical reasons and not because the judiciary found Sathya Sai Baba guilty or not guilty. If this is your (both of you) conclusion,there is no use talking about it.But let me ask you Sanjay,Why is that nobody from the western world or any other foreign country ever come to Delhi to file a case against Sathya Sai Baba? Is there a legal problem??
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"I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. 'He will rule them with an iron scepter.' He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
'KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.'" Sound familiar? Yes, that's from the Bible, Revelations 19.11-16 to be precise. This is a staple of Sai literature by way of their incorrigible attempts to prove that Sathya Sai Baba is the Messiah and his coming was foretold in acient scriptures. Without complicating the present issue, we may also observe that such claims of messiahship extend to other religions besides Christianity. I say incorrigible because history bears witness to the justification of the vilest acts that were legitimised by the twisting of scripture. Irregardless of the intent of Revelations 19, Sai devotees interpret all of the scriptural qualities as being present in the person of Sai Baba, not least the fact that the Baba himself is responsible for this. Let us take a look at his own words of Christmas Day, 1972: "There is one point that I cannot but bring to your special notice today. At the moment when Jesus was merging in the Supreme Principle of Divinity, He communicated some news to his followers ... The statement itself has been manipulated and tangled into a conundrum. The statement of Christ is simple: 'He who sent me among you will come again!' and he pointed to a Lamb. The Lamb is merely a symbol, a sign. It stands for the Voice - Ba-Ba; the announcement was the Advent of Baba. 'His Name will be Truth,' Christ declared. Sathya means Truth. 'He will wear a robe of red, a bloodred robe.' (Here Baba pointed to the robe He was wearing!). 'He will be short, with a crown (of hair). The Lamb is the sign and symbol of Love.' Christ did not declare that he will come again. He said, 'He who made me will come again.' That Ba-ba is this Baba and Sai, the short, curly-hair-crowned red-robed Baba, is come." No, there is no use rubbing your eyes in disbelief, he really did say that in front of a packed crowd of Westerners on Christmas Day. Talk about seizing opportunities, just check out the way that he is not content with declaring himself the Messiah (Christ come again) but insists upon being recognised as GOD, He who supposedly <i>sent</ipan> Christ into the world. One thing that I absolutely love about Sai devotees is the way they manage to take everything completely out of context while keeping a straight face. By this I am referring to the 'Rider of the White Horse' mentioned in Revelations; Verses 19-21 speak of both a 'beast' and a 'false prophet' who will war with the horse's rider (ostensibly the Messiah) and be defeated by him by a sword that emerges out of the rider's mouth. All's fair in love and weirdness as some may say, but who are these beasts and false prophets running around all over the place? For that we must turn to Revelations 13 (of course, which other number would work?) to find out all about the Beast and the infamous '666' number. Yup, it's our old friend the Anti-Christ. Now if Sai Baba is identifying himself as the rider on the white horse mentioned in the Bible, what does it mean to suggest that he will be responsible for the killing of the Anti-Christ? What does it say about Sai Baba's leanings towards Fundamentalist Christianity? What does it say about Sai Baa-baa's apparent endorsement of mythical and devilish figures? What does it say about Sai BlahBlah's infinite capacity to talk crap?In any case, isn't it ironic how Sai Baba is viewed in some quarters as being the Anti-Christ incarnate? With all his relentless self-flattery about being the very same God who sent Jesus Christ, he can't even get his story straight about that. Constant confusion is par for the course with this Baba, and it was one of the reasons why I felt unable to continue following him in good conscience. Sai Baba could perhaps redeem himself and return to his former glory as Superbaba again if only he made the effort, bearing in mind that claims to be God or Jesus have lost their novelty when they are made by practically every drunk, drug addict or schizophrenic. There's an idea I'll submit to him for his New Year's Resolutions; Think up some more creative ways to keep a grip on your dwindling followers by re-asserting your godhood and absolute control over their lives. If in doubt, hire a good PR consultant. Happy Holidays. :-)
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Sanjay Dadlani's (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") yearly Christmas Complaints: Taken from Sanjay's former Killuminati blog entitled "Christmas Cheer" published on December 26th 2004: "The thing about Christmas is that almost EVERYONE complains about the crap presents that they receive. I don't blame them, especially presents consist of utterly boring things such as a new pair of socks, jumpers, scarves, etc. Very rarely does anyone actually get what they want. Men NEVER get their Black & Decker All-purpose Driller, women NEVER get their Trilogy jewellery from Ernest Jones, Santa Claus NEVER eats the milk/alcohol and cookies that the kids put out for him..
..But then again, Santa has a good excuse. He doesn't exist.
I spent a lot of time thinking what to get for Mum and Dad. Well, the usual options for their birthdays are usually a new bottle of Oil of Olay and a bottle of aftershave respectively. This year I decided to do something a bit useful with all the money I have. I saw an advert on the telly about a hairdryer that was on offer, so I thought I'd get that for Mum. I also figured that since the radio in the kitchen is extremely shitty and gets poor reception, I might make Mum happy and get her a new one. While she pretends that she is happy with what she is, it still stands that a new radio is definitely needed since the current one was about two decades out of date. Since I'd get Mum a hairdryer, the radio could be considered a present for the "house", or at least a late anniversary present since I completely forgot about their anniversary (oops!). For Dad, I figured I might get him a bottle of Disaronno.
I actually did get all this stuff a few days ago. Like a little child I was so excited about it that I wanted to pull them out and gift it to them immediately, but I held myself in and managed to keep quiet. Christmas Eve night I excitedly placed them in position so that the parents would get a surprise when they sat down in their chairs next morning.
Well, the long and the short of it is that they basically appreciated that I had gone to the effort but they didn't like the presents. Unbelievable! I KNEW that Mum wouldn't like her presents. Apparently the hairdryer is unnecessary even though it is a Revlon professional. And the radio would get dirty in the kitchen. What a fucking lame excuse. I could have got her just a radio, but for 3 quid more I got her one with a CD player included in it. I suspect that they will ask for the receipts for exchanging.
It hurts when your own parents don't appreciate your gifts. You might think they would be sensitive enough to hide their feelings but nooooooo, they had to ask me questions like when and where I got it from, asking for the receipts etc. Coz apparently Tesco's has a cheaper radio. What kind of shit does Tesco sell anyway?
This reminds me of a few years earlier when I was more or less a schoolkid and I saved up al the spare change I had to get Mum a crystal keyring and a tiepin for Dad, for their anniversary. They didn't fucking appreciate those either, they went and exchanged the two for a stupic clock that they don't even use!
Why don't people have any fucking sensitivity ?? I could have got them crappy stuff like socks and shit, but I didn't! I bought ELECTRONICS wiv mah moolah! I went into a fucking sulk all day. I spend all that time thinking what actually might be useful and getting excited about it, only to get all down about it. I didn't see Dad complaining about his Disaronna though, naturally. Who wouldn't like Disaronna?
Oh yes, and did I mention that I got NOTHING for Christmas?
P.S. At the time of writing I have made a small discovery. Apparently my parents have played the same trick on me by leaving an envelope at my computer station with 50 quid in if for my present. While it is a nice gesture, it lacks imagination. They know that there are several things that I might like but no one shows any sign of going out and getting it. I am still very disappointed and hurt. At least Anna got soemthing nice. I'm almost jealous.
Why, oh why did I expect anything to be different anyway? My fucking fmaily ain't big on celebrations. Why, we don't even celebrate sodding Christmas so they may have an excuse, but what excuse can there be for not getting me stuff on my BIRTHDAY?" Talk about a whiny crybaby! waaa waaa lol
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Tsk tsk, more examples of off-wiki attacks using my private and personal blog entires to boot. Further proof of Gerald Morneo's stalking/harassment tendencies and continued avoidance/deflection away from Sathya Sai Baba in favour of ad-hominem attacking SB's critics. More evidence of being completely unable to edit Wikipedia articles in good faith. Tsk, everyone is starting to notice the desperation, Mr. Moreno. Nobody cares for the opinion of a pro-Sai fanatic who has been kicked out (three times in a row) of every forum he has participated in. Christmas cheer for you. :-) Suck on this: "Tom Sackville, a former Home Office minister and chairman of FAIR, a cult-watching and victim support group, said: 'It is appallingly naive for the award scheme to involve young people and the royal family with an organisation whose leader is accused of paedophilia. Parents who plan to send their children on this month's pilgrimage ... should be aware of the danger their children are being exposed to."- The Guardian
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It smacks loudly of hypocrisy when Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED", aka "Gaurasundara", aka "Dark Knight", aka "Azra`iL") has the audacity to discuss Jesus Christ and the Bible in light of his requests for Jesus, Biblical and Disney pornography and his public boasting about how his long-haired "Jesus look" was getting more sex with women! No kidding. As a matter of fact, the proof is still located on Google's Adult Groups: - Sanjay & Gomorrah: Dadlani's Jesus Sex Fetish- Sanjay's Requests For Pornographic MaterialSanjay's discoursing on Jesus and the Bible is akin to a prostitute discoursing on abstinence. All that can be said about Sanjay's arguments is that he is consistently inconsistent and critically hypocritical. This is the guy who Anti-Sai Activists endorse, promote and fully associate themselves with. For shame!
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More off-Wiki attacks that expose Gerald Moreno (SSS108) as an ad-hominem attacker who is pathologically unable to address the issues regarding Sathya Sai Baba and simply resorts to ad-hominem personal attacks instead. That too on Christmas Day. Merry Christmas Gerald. :-) Merry Christmas Sai Baba! :-) -- "I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. 'He will rule them with an iron scepter.' He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
'KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.'" Sound familiar? Yes, that's from the Bible, Revelations 19.11-16 to be precise. This is a staple of Sai literature by way of their incorrigible attempts to prove that Sathya Sai Baba is the Messiah and his coming was foretold in acient scriptures. Without complicating the present issue, we may also observe that such claims of messiahship extend to other religions besides Christianity. I say incorrigible because history bears witness to the justification of the vilest acts that were legitimised by the twisting of scripture. Irregardless of the intent of Revelations 19, Sai devotees interpret all of the scriptural qualities as being present in the person of Sai Baba, not least the fact that the Baba himself is responsible for this. Let us take a look at his own words of Christmas Day, 1972: "There is one point that I cannot but bring to your special notice today. At the moment when Jesus was merging in the Supreme Principle of Divinity, He communicated some news to his followers ... The statement itself has been manipulated and tangled into a conundrum. The statement of Christ is simple: 'He who sent me among you will come again!' and he pointed to a Lamb. The Lamb is merely a symbol, a sign. It stands for the Voice - Ba-Ba; the announcement was the Advent of Baba. 'His Name will be Truth,' Christ declared. Sathya means Truth. 'He will wear a robe of red, a bloodred robe.' (Here Baba pointed to the robe He was wearing!). 'He will be short, with a crown (of hair). The Lamb is the sign and symbol of Love.' Christ did not declare that he will come again. He said, 'He who made me will come again.' That Ba-ba is this Baba and Sai, the short, curly-hair-crowned red-robed Baba, is come." No, there is no use rubbing your eyes in disbelief, he really did say that in front of a packed crowd of Westerners on Christmas Day. Talk about seizing opportunities, just check out the way that he is not content with declaring himself the Messiah (Christ come again) but insists upon being recognised as GOD, He who supposedly <i>sent</ipan> Christ into the world. One thing that I absolutely love about Sai devotees is the way they manage to take everything completely out of context while keeping a straight face. By this I am referring to the 'Rider of the White Horse' mentioned in Revelations; Verses 19-21 speak of both a 'beast' and a 'false prophet' who will war with the horse's rider (ostensibly the Messiah) and be defeated by him by a sword that emerges out of the rider's mouth. All's fair in love and weirdness as some may say, but who are these beasts and false prophets running around all over the place? For that we must turn to Revelations 13 (of course, which other number would work?) to find out all about the Beast and the infamous '666' number. Yup, it's our old friend the Anti-Christ. Now if Sai Baba is identifying himself as the rider on the white horse mentioned in the Bible, what does it mean to suggest that he will be responsible for the killing of the Anti-Christ? What does it say about Sai Baba's leanings towards Fundamentalist Christianity? What does it say about Sai Baa-baa's apparent endorsement of mythical and devilish figures? What does it say about Sai BlahBlah's infinite capacity to talk crap?In any case, isn't it ironic how Sai Baba is viewed in some quarters as being the Anti-Christ incarnate? With all his relentless self-flattery about being the very same God who sent Jesus Christ, he can't even get his story straight about that. Constant confusion is par for the course with this Baba, and it was one of the reasons why I felt unable to continue following him in good conscience. Sai Baba could perhaps redeem himself and return to his former glory as Superbaba again if only he made the effort, bearing in mind that claims to be God or Jesus have lost their novelty when they are made by practically every drunk, drug addict or schizophrenic. There's an idea I'll submit to him for his New Year's Resolutions; Think up some more creative ways to keep a grip on your dwindling followers by re-asserting your godhood and absolute control over their lives. If in doubt, hire a good PR consultant. Happy Holidays. :-)
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"I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. 'He will rule them with an iron scepter.' He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
'KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.'"
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EVery prophecy that sb has said about himself has been proven to be distorted or downright lies. Everyone has been refuted and proven so. From Aurobindo and Mohammed all the way to the Revelations. Revelations is esoteric anyway and is about internal battles and processes such as Kundalini etc.
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12-25-2006 12:59 PM ET (US)
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Too funny! Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED", aka "Gaurasundara", aka "Dark Knight", aka "Azra`iL") is now complaining about "off wiki personal attacks" when he has done nothing but attack me and others during all this time! lol Sanjay, your denial won't put others in denail. You are a pervert, pathological liar and deceiver with proof. A position I am perfectly ready to defend on Wikipedia if you want to push the issue :-) Since you reposted your former comments, I will repost mine: - Sanjay & Gomorrah: Dadlani's Jesus Sex Fetish- Sanjay's Requests For Pornographic MaterialSanjay's discoursing on Jesus and the Bible is akin to a prostitute discoursing on abstinence. All that can be said about Sanjay's arguments is that he is consistently inconsistent and critically hypocritical. This is the guy who Anti-Sai Activists endorse, promote and fully associate themselves with. For shame!
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12-25-2006 01:07 PM ET (US)
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Funny, despite all these allegations of "pedophilia", not even one critic, skeptic, rationalist, journalist or media can verify even one single instance of pedophilia against Sathya Sai Baba! Anti-Sai's love to boast about all the media that has spoken against Sathya Sai Baba. Despite all these media organizations and journalists investigating and reporting the issue for 6 years, no one can confirm even one single case of paedophilia. Gee, I wonder why? Oh, I forgot, Anti-Sai's are keeping that information "secret". Pathetic. |