EVery prophecy that sb has said about himself has been proven to be distorted or downright lies. Everyone has been refuted and proven so. From Aurobindo and Mohammed all the way to the Revelations. Revelations is esoteric anyway and is about internal battles and processes such as Kundalini etc.

"I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. 'He will rule them with an iron scepter.' He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

'KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.'"


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that's weird

More off-Wiki attacks that expose Gerald Moreno (SSS108) as an ad-hominem attacker who is pathologically unable to address the issues regarding Sathya Sai Baba and simply resorts to ad-hominem personal attacks instead. That too on Christmas Day. Merry Christmas Gerald. :-) Merry Christmas Sai Baba! :-)

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"I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. 'He will rule them with an iron scepter.' He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

'KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.'"

Sound familiar? Yes, that's from the Bible, Revelations 19.11-16 to be precise. This is a staple of Sai literature by way of their incorrigible attempts to prove that Sathya Sai Baba is the Messiah and his coming was foretold in acient scriptures. Without complicating the present issue, we may also observe that such claims of messiahship extend to other religions besides Christianity.

I say incorrigible because history bears witness to the justification of the vilest acts that were legitimised by the twisting of scripture. Irregardless of the intent of Revelations 19, Sai devotees interpret all of the scriptural qualities as being present in the person of Sai Baba, not least the fact that the Baba himself is responsible for this. Let us take a look at his own words of Christmas Day, 1972:

"There is one point that I cannot but bring to your special notice today. At the moment when Jesus was merging in the Supreme Principle of Divinity, He communicated some news to his followers ... The statement itself has been manipulated and tangled into a conundrum. The statement of Christ is simple: 'He who sent me among you will come again!' and he pointed to a Lamb. The Lamb is merely a symbol, a sign. It stands for the Voice - Ba-Ba; the announcement was the Advent of Baba. 'His Name will be Truth,' Christ declared. Sathya means Truth. 'He will wear a robe of red, a bloodred robe.' (Here Baba pointed to the robe He was wearing!). 'He will be short, with a crown (of hair). The Lamb is the sign and symbol of Love.' Christ did not declare that he will come again. He said, 'He who made me will come again.' That Ba-ba is this Baba and Sai, the short, curly-hair-crowned red-robed Baba, is come."

No, there is no use rubbing your eyes in disbelief, he really did say that in front of a packed crowd of Westerners on Christmas Day. Talk about seizing opportunities, just check out the way that he is not content with declaring himself the Messiah (Christ come again) but insists upon being recognised as GOD, He who supposedly <i>sent</ipan> Christ into the world.

One thing that I absolutely love about Sai devotees is the way they manage to take everything completely out of context while keeping a straight face. By this I am referring to the 'Rider of the White Horse' mentioned in Revelations; Verses 19-21 speak of both a 'beast' and a 'false prophet' who will war with the horse's rider (ostensibly the Messiah) and be defeated by him by a sword that emerges out of the rider's mouth. All's fair in love and weirdness as some may say, but who are these beasts and false prophets running around all over the place? For that we must turn to Revelations 13 (of course, which other number would work?) to find out all about the Beast and the infamous '666' number. Yup, it's our old friend the Anti-Christ.

Now if Sai Baba is identifying himself as the rider on the white horse mentioned in the Bible, what does it mean to suggest that he will be responsible for the killing of the Anti-Christ? What does it say about Sai Baba's leanings towards Fundamentalist Christianity? What does it say about Sai Baa-baa's apparent endorsement of mythical and devilish figures? What does it say about Sai BlahBlah's infinite capacity to talk crap?

In any case, isn't it ironic how Sai Baba is viewed in some quarters as being the Anti-Christ incarnate? With all his relentless self-flattery about being the very same God who sent Jesus Christ, he can't even get his story straight about that. Constant confusion is par for the course with this Baba, and it was one of the reasons why I felt unable to continue following him in good conscience. Sai Baba could perhaps redeem himself and return to his former glory as Superbaba again if only he made the effort, bearing in mind that claims to be God or Jesus have lost their novelty when they are made by practically every drunk, drug addict or schizophrenic. There's an idea I'll submit to him for his New Year's Resolutions; Think up some more creative ways to keep a grip on your dwindling followers by re-asserting your godhood and absolute control over their lives. If in doubt, hire a good PR consultant.

Happy Holidays. :-)

Edited by author 12-25-2006 12:26 AM
It smacks loudly of hypocrisy when Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED", aka "Gaurasundara", aka "Dark Knight", aka "Azra`iL") has the audacity to discuss Jesus Christ and the Bible in light of his requests for Jesus, Biblical and Disney pornography and his public boasting about how his long-haired "Jesus look" was getting more sex with women! No kidding. As a matter of fact, the proof is still located on Google's Adult Groups:

- Sanjay & Gomorrah: Dadlani's Jesus Sex Fetish
- Sanjay's Requests For Pornographic Material

Sanjay's discoursing on Jesus and the Bible is akin to a prostitute discoursing on abstinence.

All that can be said about Sanjay's arguments is that he is consistently inconsistent and critically hypocritical. This is the guy who Anti-Sai Activists endorse, promote and fully associate themselves with. For shame!

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Edited by author 12-25-2006 12:13 AM
Tsk tsk, more examples of off-wiki attacks using my private and personal blog entires to boot. Further proof of Gerald Morneo's stalking/harassment tendencies and continued avoidance/deflection away from Sathya Sai Baba in favour of ad-hominem attacking SB's critics. More evidence of being completely unable to edit Wikipedia articles in good faith.

Tsk, everyone is starting to notice the desperation, Mr. Moreno. Nobody cares for the opinion of a pro-Sai fanatic who has been kicked out (three times in a row) of every forum he has participated in. Christmas cheer for you. :-)

Suck on this:

"Tom Sackville, a former Home Office minister and chairman of FAIR, a cult-watching and victim support group, said: 'It is appallingly naive for the award scheme to involve young people and the royal family with an organisation whose leader is accused of paedophilia. Parents who plan to send their children on this month's pilgrimage ... should be aware of the danger their children are being exposed to."

- The Guardian

Sanjay Dadlani's (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") yearly Christmas Complaints:

Taken from Sanjay's former Killuminati blog entitled "Christmas Cheer" published on December 26th 2004:

"The thing about Christmas is that almost EVERYONE complains about the crap presents that they receive. I don't blame them, especially presents consist of utterly boring things such as a new pair of socks, jumpers, scarves, etc. Very rarely does anyone actually get what they want. Men NEVER get their Black & Decker All-purpose Driller, women NEVER get their Trilogy jewellery from Ernest Jones, Santa Claus NEVER eats the milk/alcohol and cookies that the kids put out for him..

..But then again, Santa has a good excuse. He doesn't exist.

I spent a lot of time thinking what to get for Mum and Dad. Well, the usual options for their birthdays are usually a new bottle of Oil of Olay and a bottle of aftershave respectively. This year I decided to do something a bit useful with all the money I have. I saw an advert on the telly about a hairdryer that was on offer, so I thought I'd get that for Mum. I also figured that since the radio in the kitchen is extremely shitty and gets poor reception, I might make Mum happy and get her a new one. While she pretends that she is happy with what she is, it still stands that a new radio is definitely needed since the current one was about two decades out of date. Since I'd get Mum a hairdryer, the radio could be considered a present for the "house", or at least a late anniversary present since I completely forgot about their anniversary (oops!). For Dad, I figured I might get him a bottle of Disaronno.

I actually did get all this stuff a few days ago. Like a little child I was so excited about it that I wanted to pull them out and gift it to them immediately, but I held myself in and managed to keep quiet. Christmas Eve night I excitedly placed them in position so that the parents would get a surprise when they sat down in their chairs next morning.

Well, the long and the short of it is that they basically appreciated that I had gone to the effort but they didn't like the presents. Unbelievable! I KNEW that Mum wouldn't like her presents. Apparently the hairdryer is unnecessary even though it is a Revlon professional. And the radio would get dirty in the kitchen. What a fucking lame excuse. I could have got her just a radio, but for 3 quid more I got her one with a CD player included in it. I suspect that they will ask for the receipts for exchanging.

It hurts when your own parents don't appreciate your gifts. You might think they would be sensitive enough to hide their feelings but nooooooo, they had to ask me questions like when and where I got it from, asking for the receipts etc. Coz apparently Tesco's has a cheaper radio. What kind of shit does Tesco sell anyway?

This reminds me of a few years earlier when I was more or less a schoolkid and I saved up al the spare change I had to get Mum a crystal keyring and a tiepin for Dad, for their anniversary. They didn't fucking appreciate those either, they went and exchanged the two for a stupic clock that they don't even use!

Why don't people have any fucking sensitivity ?? I could have got them crappy stuff like socks and shit, but I didn't! I bought ELECTRONICS wiv mah moolah! I went into a fucking sulk all day. I spend all that time thinking what actually might be useful and getting excited about it, only to get all down about it. I didn't see Dad complaining about his Disaronna though, naturally. Who wouldn't like Disaronna?

Oh yes, and did I mention that I got NOTHING for Christmas?


P.S. At the time of writing I have made a small discovery. Apparently my parents have played the same trick on me by leaving an envelope at my computer station with 50 quid in if for my present. While it is a nice gesture, it lacks imagination. They know that there are several things that I might like but no one shows any sign of going out and getting it. I am still very disappointed and hurt. At least Anna got soemthing nice. I'm almost jealous.

Why, oh why did I expect anything to be different anyway? My fucking fmaily ain't big on celebrations. Why, we don't even celebrate sodding Christmas so they may have an excuse, but what excuse can there be for not getting me stuff on my BIRTHDAY?"

Talk about a whiny crybaby! waaa waaa lol

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Edited by author 12-24-2006 10:57 PM

"I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. 'He will rule them with an iron scepter.' He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

'KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.'"

Sound familiar? Yes, that's from the Bible, Revelations 19.11-16 to be precise. This is a staple of Sai literature by way of their incorrigible attempts to prove that Sathya Sai Baba is the Messiah and his coming was foretold in acient scriptures. Without complicating the present issue, we may also observe that such claims of messiahship extend to other religions besides Christianity.

I say incorrigible because history bears witness to the justification of the vilest acts that were legitimised by the twisting of scripture. Irregardless of the intent of Revelations 19, Sai devotees interpret all of the scriptural qualities as being present in the person of Sai Baba, not least the fact that the Baba himself is responsible for this. Let us take a look at his own words of Christmas Day, 1972:

"There is one point that I cannot but bring to your special notice today. At the moment when Jesus was merging in the Supreme Principle of Divinity, He communicated some news to his followers ... The statement itself has been manipulated and tangled into a conundrum. The statement of Christ is simple: 'He who sent me among you will come again!' and he pointed to a Lamb. The Lamb is merely a symbol, a sign. It stands for the Voice - Ba-Ba; the announcement was the Advent of Baba. 'His Name will be Truth,' Christ declared. Sathya means Truth. 'He will wear a robe of red, a bloodred robe.' (Here Baba pointed to the robe He was wearing!). 'He will be short, with a crown (of hair). The Lamb is the sign and symbol of Love.' Christ did not declare that he will come again. He said, 'He who made me will come again.' That Ba-ba is this Baba and Sai, the short, curly-hair-crowned red-robed Baba, is come."

No, there is no use rubbing your eyes in disbelief, he really did say that in front of a packed crowd of Westerners on Christmas Day. Talk about seizing opportunities, just check out the way that he is not content with declaring himself the Messiah (Christ come again) but insists upon being recognised as GOD, He who supposedly <i>sent</ipan> Christ into the world.

One thing that I absolutely love about Sai devotees is the way they manage to take everything completely out of context while keeping a straight face. By this I am referring to the 'Rider of the White Horse' mentioned in Revelations; Verses 19-21 speak of both a 'beast' and a 'false prophet' who will war with the horse's rider (ostensibly the Messiah) and be defeated by him by a sword that emerges out of the rider's mouth. All's fair in love and weirdness as some may say, but who are these beasts and false prophets running around all over the place? For that we must turn to Revelations 13 (of course, which other number would work?) to find out all about the Beast and the infamous '666' number. Yup, it's our old friend the Anti-Christ.

Now if Sai Baba is identifying himself as the rider on the white horse mentioned in the Bible, what does it mean to suggest that he will be responsible for the killing of the Anti-Christ? What does it say about Sai Baba's leanings towards Fundamentalist Christianity? What does it say about Sai Baa-baa's apparent endorsement of mythical and devilish figures? What does it say about Sai BlahBlah's infinite capacity to talk crap?

In any case, isn't it ironic how Sai Baba is viewed in some quarters as being the Anti-Christ incarnate? With all his relentless self-flattery about being the very same God who sent Jesus Christ, he can't even get his story straight about that. Constant confusion is par for the course with this Baba, and it was one of the reasons why I felt unable to continue following him in good conscience. Sai Baba could perhaps redeem himself and return to his former glory as Superbaba again if only he made the effort, bearing in mind that claims to be God or Jesus have lost their novelty when they are made by practically every drunk, drug addict or schizophrenic. There's an idea I'll submit to him for his New Year's Resolutions; Think up some more creative ways to keep a grip on your dwindling followers by re-asserting your godhood and absolute control over their lives. If in doubt, hire a good PR consultant.

Happy Holidays. :-)

Everything that he has to say are fetid speculations gleaned from material on Expose sites. His "scathing" response is more like a laughable response, which is why I have not even bothered to respond to it.

Sanjay, I feel you should respond to his allegations. If that is not done,how can we get the truth, I agree that you are able to clearly say that there are a lot of things that are not alright with Sathya sai baba,butdon't you think that we should have more evidence.Of course you are able to demolish the view that people did not know about Shrdi sai baba in puttaparthi area when Sathya Sai Baba was in his teens.
As far as Alhaya rahm is concerrned,both you and joe seem to be in agreement on the fact that the case did not go through because of technical reasons and not because the judiciary found Sathya Sai Baba guilty or not guilty. If this is your (both of you) conclusion,there is no use talking about it.But let me ask you Sanjay,Why is that nobody from the western world or any other foreign country ever come to Delhi to file a case against Sathya Sai Baba? Is there a legal problem??

http://home.hetnet.nl/~ex_baba/engels/arti...thaboutsaibaba.html

Check Hindustan Times counterpoint.

Edited by author 03-04-2008 10:47 PM
I'm wondering why anti-
Sais are so dumb as to waste their time in a battle where the very suspicious accusers (who are all grown men and obvious liars hiding out unless there are cameras or journalists to kiss their butts and throw them softball questions) won't even lift a finger to fight for themselves. They never consulted a lawyer. They never even tried to file charges. And now they are doing practically nothing to help the "cause" except for lending their name in a useless battle.

Sounds pretty dumb and suspicious to me. I certainly wouldn't waste my time on someone who wasn't willing to put their money and muscle where their mouth is.

Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Ah Sanjay, defending your Anti-Sai Friends although they giggle at you and your public exposures behind your back (just like several Middlesex Univerisity Students). You propagate rumors against Sathya Sai Baba that you cannot prove in any way and think this is admirable. Nobody thinks liars are admirable, except Anti-Sai Activists. Hence their admiration of you :-)

Yeah, right, Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED")! Do tell us how everyone is taking your words out of context when you gloated yourself that you worked on that article and that Anti-Sai Activists knew of the article "months" before its publication. You even cited a post from a Yahoo Group 6 months before the article as proof that you warned us of the coming newspaper publication in The Guardian. You are a big fat liar and no one believes you.

This is the reason why I don't engage Sangay Dadlani in discussions. All he does is deflect, deny and change the topic (besides garbling like a motormouth ad nauseam).

Sanjay said about The Guardian article, on this forum:

"Want to talk about blindness? I warned you fools about this months ago, but you're way too thick to pick up the hints. I even warned you months in advance about the BBC movie, and you were too thick to pick up the hints about that too. Nothing has changed even two years later. :-)...We already knew about this issue months before the date pf publication of course. In fact it was mooted as a front-page story, but at the last minute a development in a legal issue involving PM Tony Blair took precedence and the Sai Baba article was moved to Page 3. No matter, open the paper and it all goes BOOM! in your face...How did you like the distractions, Moreno? Sorry I couldn't take part while I was busy participating in this development...We run the Exposé and the Exposé continues...And yes, I know all about what has gone on behind the scenes. This is the stuff I am working on while you idiots are arguing endlessly over who's a bigger pervert than who when the biggest pervert of all (Sai Baba) has just been exposed today (Saturday 4th November 2006) in a very nice Page 3 spread in a highbrow British newspaper like The Guardian. Of course, I already know which page it's on even though I don't have it yet."

Paul Lewis' Hidden Bias In The Guardian UK Newspaper

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Ha ha ha ha ha, the whole world thinks Bush is a moron. Maybe Gerald will write another page about I have just rubbished "beloved" Bush. LOL.

Awww look at Gerald Moreno trying so hard to sound like an expert again. What a shame he cannot defend the indefensible gossip-queening that takes place around Sai Baba. Apparently everyone with any stature who comes to see him is automatically a "devotee", including Steven Seagal of all people. Ha ha ha, unbelievable.

And now Moreno wants to make a case against Afshin having an opinion about some heads of state? LOL, let me inform Moreno that a large proportion of the British Public rubbish the Royal Family, write another website all about that! :-) Unbelievable desperation, castigating Afshin for having an opinion. LOL, I need say no more as Gerald Moreno is fully capable of presenting himself as a fool on the world's stage, as he has been doing for so long already. :-)

Good night. :-)

Aww, Sheba comes to back up Solomon. Sahme they don't know that at least two witnesses (Diana Payne and Mark Roche, latter featured in sensational BBC documentary) were prepared to testify in court. Too bad Moreno knows nothing about the court case, except for what his friends in the Sai organisation have told him. :-)

Face it, Sai Baba has just been exposed... again.

Satya Sai Baba caught in British controversy

Indo-Asian News Service

London, December 22, 2006

Satya Sai Baba, one of India's best known spiritual leaders, has triggered a fresh controversy in Britain after association with The Duke of Edinburgh's Award charity involving young people.

The Duke of Edinburgh's Award is a London-headquartered charity whose patron is Prince Philip.

It gives three kinds of awards (bronze, silver and gold) to anyone aged between 14-25 for achievements in four categories: community service, skills, physical recreation and expeditions. Each year it is estimated that over 2,25,000 youngsters vie for the honour in Britain alone.

This year, when the charity celebrates its 50th year, it has chosen to send about 200 young volunteers to India to work with the Sri Satya Sai Organisation.

However, the feat, pulled off by Sai Youth UK, a division of the parent body, has created a furore. Several people, including some of the Satya Sai Baba's former Western disciples, questioned the decision in view of the mixed reputation the godman enjoys. Sai's devotees deny the allegations.

The Guardian was the first to raise its voice saying the award scheme had chosen as its accredited partner a spiritual group "whose 'living god' founder has been accused of sexually abusing young boys".

Satya Sai Baba hit bad press in Britain two years ago when a BBC programme, The Secret Swami, interviewed young Western disciples who alleged that the godman had sexually coerced them.

The Guardian quoted Tom Sackville, a former Home Office minister and chairman of Fair, a cult-watching and victim support group, as saying: "It is appallingly naive for the award scheme to involve young people and the royal family with an organisation whose leader is accused of paedophilia. Parents who plan to send their children on this pilgrimage... should be aware of the danger their children are being exposed to."

The daily also said Michael Gave, a conservative MP, planned to write to the charity to say it should monitor the organisations they chose as partners more strictly.

"As a society we need a more determined effort to identify and expose those religious cults and extremists that pose a direct threat to people, so that they do not enjoy patronage that should be directed elsewhere," he was quoted as saying.

In the 1990s, when Prince Charles visited India, he had expressed a desire to visit the Sai Baba but was quietly dissuaded by the British Embassy in New Delhi.

Since The Guardian's article, it was reported that there was mounting pressure on the charity to distance itself from the Sai group.

However, charity spokesperson Shona Taylor did not answer repeated queries as to whether the volunteers had left for India and how they could be contacted.

- Hindustan Times :-)

Also carried at: KeralaNext.Com, India4u.Com, Nerve.In, IBNLive.Com ("Brit Boys To Keep Off Sai Baba's Reach"), and WorldWide Religious News. :-)

Edited by author 12-24-2006 12:01 AM
When it comes to hearsay and unconfirmed rumors about what Sathya Sai Baba allegedly said about Princess Diana and Prince Charles, Anti-Sai Activists turn into gossip queen and report these rumors like tabloid sensationalists. However, when it comes to Said Afshin Khorramshahgol and his rubbishing (with proof) of the much beloved Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother, Ronald Reagan and all US Presidents as "morons" (Ref), Anti-Sai Activists act deaf and say the discussion is about Sathya Sai Baba and not their perversions, defamations and untruths. Shameless hypocrites.

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