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Topic: Sathya Sai Baba 2005: Who Is He?
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Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1641
12-23-2006 11:27 PM ET (US)
Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") everyone knows why you are gloating over the press received about The Guardian article. You were the one who boasted that you were directly involved with it and predicted its publication 6 months before it came out!

Paul Lewis' Hidden Bias In The Guardian UK Newspaper

Sanjay said about this article, on this forum:
"Want to talk about blindness? I warned you fools about this months ago, but you're way too thick to pick up the hints. I even warned you months in advance about the BBC movie, and you were too thick to pick up the hints about that too. Nothing has changed even two years later. :-)...We already knew about this issue months before the date pf publication of course. In fact it was mooted as a front-page story, but at the last minute a development in a legal issue involving PM Tony Blair took precedence and the Sai Baba article was moved to Page 3. No matter, open the paper and it all goes BOOM! in your face...How did you like the distractions, Moreno? Sorry I couldn't take part while I was busy participating in this development...We run the Exposé and the Exposé continues...And yes, I know all about what has gone on behind the scenes. This is the stuff I am working on while you idiots are arguing endlessly over who's a bigger pervert than who when the biggest pervert of all (Sai Baba) has just been exposed today (Saturday 4th November 2006) in a very nice Page 3 spread in a highbrow British newspaper like The Guardian. Of course, I already know which page it's on even though I don't have it yet."

Of course, now Sanjay is attempting to say that he wasn't as involved as he formerly claimed he was. More feet in mouth :-)

Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1640
12-23-2006 11:25 PM ET (US)
Yawn. As I said before, Joe108 knows nothing about the legal case. The full explanation (complete with information from the Rahm's lawyer, is contained here.

More lies as usual, several witnesses were going to be called. Too bad Joe108 didn't know about it, he knows nothing. :-)
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1639
12-23-2006 11:15 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-23-2006 11:20 PM
Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") said, "The case "failed" because it wasn't legally possible to sue Sai Baba and/or his organisation in America". Amen. Finally got your information right. But what you forget to tell everyone is that Alaya Rahm's lawyer not only accepted the case, he pursued it for 16 months only to conclude that the Society was a bookstore and could not be sued!

Alaya attempted to sue Goldstein and failed. Alaya attempted to sue Sathya Sai Baba (in the wrong country) and failed. Alaya's last ditch effort was to sue the Society (in the wrong country) and failed. Not even one single witness came forward to defend Alaya or support him in any way. Not even one other alleged victim! Instead of wasting so much time in America filing useless court cases, the Rahm's should have filed a court case in India (which would have generated immense publicity). Too late, they dismissed their case "with prejudice"!

The only reason why Anti-Sai Activists have not responded to my scathing response is because they have already stuck all their feet in their mouths and can't find any more room to stick more feet in! Of course, Sanjay will spin everything with his typical garrulous replies and deflection tactics and repeat his monotoned rhetoric like a brainless automaton (no surprise there).

This whole issue has been nothing less than a total embarrassment for the Anti-Sai Movement. If you listen carefully, you can hear them sobbing amidst the gnashing of their teeth :-)

* Alaya Rahm Self-Dismissed His Own Lawsuit Against The Sathya Sai Baba Society
* A Scathing Response To Critics About Alaya Rahm's Failed Lawsuit

Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1638
12-23-2006 11:01 PM ET (US)

Satya Sai Baba caught in British controversy

Indo-Asian News Service

London, December 22, 2006

Satya Sai Baba, one of India's best known spiritual leaders, has triggered a fresh controversy in Britain after association with The Duke of Edinburgh's Award charity involving young people.

The Duke of Edinburgh's Award is a London-headquartered charity whose patron is Prince Philip.

It gives three kinds of awards (bronze, silver and gold) to anyone aged between 14-25 for achievements in four categories: community service, skills, physical recreation and expeditions. Each year it is estimated that over 2,25,000 youngsters vie for the honour in Britain alone.

This year, when the charity celebrates its 50th year, it has chosen to send about 200 young volunteers to India to work with the Sri Satya Sai Organisation.

However, the feat, pulled off by Sai Youth UK, a division of the parent body, has created a furore. Several people, including some of the Satya Sai Baba's former Western disciples, questioned the decision in view of the mixed reputation the godman enjoys. Sai's devotees deny the allegations.

The Guardian was the first to raise its voice saying the award scheme had chosen as its accredited partner a spiritual group "whose 'living god' founder has been accused of sexually abusing young boys".

Satya Sai Baba hit bad press in Britain two years ago when a BBC programme, The Secret Swami, interviewed young Western disciples who alleged that the godman had sexually coerced them.

The Guardian quoted Tom Sackville, a former Home Office minister and chairman of Fair, a cult-watching and victim support group, as saying: "It is appallingly naive for the award scheme to involve young people and the royal family with an organisation whose leader is accused of paedophilia. Parents who plan to send their children on this pilgrimage... should be aware of the danger their children are being exposed to."

The daily also said Michael Gave, a conservative MP, planned to write to the charity to say it should monitor the organisations they chose as partners more strictly.

"As a society we need a more determined effort to identify and expose those religious cults and extremists that pose a direct threat to people, so that they do not enjoy patronage that should be directed elsewhere," he was quoted as saying.

In the 1990s, when Prince Charles visited India, he had expressed a desire to visit the Sai Baba but was quietly dissuaded by the British Embassy in New Delhi.

Since The Guardian's article, it was reported that there was mounting pressure on the charity to distance itself from the Sai group.

However, charity spokesperson Shona Taylor did not answer repeated queries as to whether the volunteers had left for India and how they could be contacted.

- Hindustan Times :-)

Also carried at: KeralaNext.Com, India4u.Com, Nerve.In, IBNLive.Com ("Brit Boys To Keep Off Sai Baba's Reach"), and WorldWide Religious News. :-)

Yes indeed, a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too Meera. :-)
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1637
12-23-2006 10:55 PM ET (US)
Meera, please don't forget that Joe108 has no information about anything in the Sathya Sai Baba controversy. Everything that he has to say are fetid speculations gleaned from material on Expose sites. His "scathing" response is more like a laughable response, which is why I have not even bothered to respond to it. The Sai Organisation are also putting out disinformation (in their RadioSai magazine) to bolster the devotees to believe their own story.

The case "failed" because it wasn't legally possible to sue Sai Baba and/or his organisation in America, it's as simple as that. The Rahm's lawyer specifically outlined what it would take to convict Sai Baba/Organisation, a legal process that would take far too long during which the Baba might kick the bucket as he is already too old and weak and is not expected to live for too long. That's all.
Meera  1636
12-23-2006 08:24 PM ET (US)
I Wish you all a Happy and Merry Christmas.
Meera  1635
12-23-2006 08:18 PM ET (US)
Alaya Rahm Self-Dismissed His Own Lawsuit Against The Sathya Sai Baba Society

This message by joe is quite convincing.It looks like Alahya Rahm did nothing to prove his case against Sathya Sai Baba.It looks as though money
was his motivation. I am sure,there are provisions in the U.S law which
can at the least send a judicial order or something like that to Sathya Sai Baba.This would have proved that Alaya was really trying to prove something.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1634
12-23-2006 08:14 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-23-2006 08:17 PM
/m1632

You've been shown the truth Usedbybaba and you continue to lie about it. No honest WOMAN would look at the perversities you have been shown regarding saibabaexposed and O'Clery and act so blase about it. The fact that you could care less about their vulgarity and lies reveals who you are (a man who is a PERVERT).
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1633
12-23-2006 08:13 PM ET (US)
/m1624

No, Tony, you didn't "just" write on the Ireland Uncensored board. Once again, you are not telling the truth.
Meera  1632
12-23-2006 08:04 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-23-2006 08:12 PM
As you can see sb devotees are very dishonest

All devotees are not dishonest.I told you of my neighbours, who are very nice people.

You are saying that youare not racial.I believe you for the present. Ofcourse if they have proof and if they furnish it,I have to change my idea.I hope you are what you say and you seem sincere.
Tony O'Clery.  1631
12-23-2006 04:41 PM ET (US)
Meera wrote."Tony are you saying she is wrong? Then on what basis is lisa and others writing that you are a racial peorson? My question is did you ever visit the web site that was mentioned. What was your role or did you ever see this site before they accused you of racialism."

I had never seen the site before joe moreno was posting it all over the place. As you can see sb devotees are very dishonest, they cannot answer the charges against sb so the attack us.
AngelicPerson was signed in when posted  1630
12-23-2006 02:49 PM ET (US)
sure you are.
Meera Powar  1629
12-23-2006 01:40 PM ET (US)
usedbybaba, why are you posting as Meera?

Angel,I am Meera Powar posting as Meera.
Meera Powar  1628
12-23-2006 01:38 PM ET (US)
lisa wrote<<<<<<<<Tony, we have proof of you posting on many Irish message boards. You're not fooling anyone with a brain.........>>>>>>>>>

Tony are you saying she is wrong? Then on what basis is lisa and others writing that you are a racial peorson? My question is did you ever visit the web site that was mentioned. What was your role or did you ever see this site before they accused you of racialism. I saw the site and was surprised to see such a site legally running. Maybe some white people are feeling that their space as so called supirior people is being taken over by others.
This sort of hatred for a community exists all over the world.Shirdi baba's main objective was to bring Muslims and Hindus together.Even now the hatered between these communities are pretty high in our state.
Meera Powar  1627
12-23-2006 01:25 PM ET (US)

* Alaya Rahm Self-Dismissed His Own Lawsuit Against The Sathya Sai Baba Society
* A Scathing Response To Critics About Alaya Rahm's Failed Lawsuit

You seem to be making a point that Alaya rahm was greedy for money and so the case,even if it was true,failed.
How come there are abosolutely two different views? both yours and Sanjay's are too long for me to patiently read through. If there are just a few points, it would be easy to understand. We are lay people,so long elaborate web pages are actually confusing.
One thing that I understood is,both of you are giving totally different views for why this case was dismissed. You say it was his greed and Sanjay says it was because Sathya sai baba is inIndia?
I don't know whom to believe.
Tony O'Clery.  1626
12-23-2006 11:40 AM ET (US)
Namaste,

Rishis, Sages, Muktas, Amsa Avatars, Avatars, Karana Janmas,
Bhodisattvas are for ALL. Jesus's appearance was a blessed event.

So a Happy and Merry Christmas to ALL...Love Tony.
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