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12-22-2006 11:32 PM ET (US)
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/m1611Are you really this dumb Tony? It is oh so obvious Alaya Rahm LIED when he said the Society was involved in paying for his trip to India (just like he lied about having witnesses who would testify on his behalf) because Kreydick paid for his ticket! Like I said, it doesn't surprise me that a liar like you would side with all the other liars. Just like you are blind to your own sexual perversions, you are blind to your own lies. Better straighten your perverted act out Tony. Your past is catching up with you in more ways than one.
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12-22-2006 11:24 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 12-22-2006 11:27 PM
/m1612Tony, we have proof of you posting on many Irish message boards. You're not fooling anyone with a brain. And please stop talking like the disgusting pervert you are. Just shows once again what a weirdo you are.
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12-22-2006 10:27 PM ET (US)
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Meera, for your question about the legal case, it has all been answered here. Happy reading! :-)
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12-22-2006 10:24 PM ET (US)
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By the way, I forgot to mention that the famous B.V. Narasimha Swamiji (Shirdi Sai amabassador) met Sathya and analysed his claims. Obviously Sathya did not deserve much attention despite all the little "miracles" he was doing, and the Shirdi Sansthan accept that there is no need for a reincarnation since Shirdi Sai Baba's grace is apparently still available from his tomb, according to the reports and experiences of devotees and even Shirdi's own words.
Shirdi himself stated in many places that after his death he would still be active from his tomb, answering prayers and whatnot. So, what need for a reincarnation?
I'd also like to thank you for recognising the uselessness of Joe108 and CO2000 right off the bat. You are seeing first-hand their utter incapability of presenting a rational argument in discussion, and their pre-eminent strategy solely consists of personal attacks that have no meaning. They are angry that they are incapable of defending Sathya and simply choose to abuse us instead.
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12-22-2006 10:18 PM ET (US)
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Ha ha, if Joe is attempting to "convict" Tony because his writing was posted on a White Power site, then we can convict Lisa De Witt for the fact that her writings were posted on various pro-marijuana groups. :-)
Meera, I am not against Shirdi Sai baba as I have a very great respect for him. In fact I first heard of him after watching the famous movie starring Sudheer Dalavi and I visited Shirdi in 1990. Re your question about my article, the thing that we have to remember is that reincarnation itself cannot be scientifically proven. If anybody wants to believe that Sathya Sai is the reincarnation of Shirdi Sai, that is their faith and their own belief.
My angle is that some basic history about Sathya Sai should be known; he rose to fam after shamelessly arrogating the name and fame of Shirdi Sai Baba. If you speak to any Sathya devotee or read any books about Sathya, you will find that his claims of reincarnation are taken for granted. According to the official story, he announced it literally out of the blue and even confirmed his "identity" with Shirdi Sai in print to a media journalist. There are lots of "facts" that "prove" how Sathya is Shirdi's reincarnation so much so that it is taken for granted.
But thanks to new information (as per my articles), we have just discovered that Sathya was a liar. We are expected to believe (from official sourceS) that no one in Sathya's area had even heard of Shirdi Baba much less know who he was. What we know now is that Shirdi Sai Baba was not only well known in the area, but that young Sathya was a devotee of Shirdi Baba! Two of his uncles were confirmed devotees, and Sathya himself regularly attended Shirdi bhajans at the house of relatives and friends. When there are such glaring discrepancies between the facts and the 'official' version, how can we take his claims of reincarnation seriously? He is a liar, plain and simple.
What would have been the harm if Sathya's biographers had included this information in their books? They specifically chose to cover it up despite the fact that many of Sathya's contemporaries may well have testified. They did this to trim down the story and inculcate a myth. Sathya's fame has grown from there, declaring himself as the reincarnation of Shirdi Sai Baba at a time when there were many such "reincarnations". Sathya was not doing anything unusual or unique, a lot of people were claiming to be Shirdi's reincarnation. Apparently this didn't satisfy him, because soon enough he was claiming to be G-O-D, an avatar walking the earth.
I just feel sorry for the people who believe all this rubbish. I believed it, but now mine eyes hath seen the light.
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12-22-2006 04:13 PM ET (US)
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I have been accused by jose geraldo mentira moreno or joe 108, of writing on an Irish White Power site. This is not true but they did quote some of my writing on pro secularism. Why they quoted me I'm not sure, considering it was anti sectarian. Joes says I am cas but the bio doesn't fit me or my parents. I don't live in Ireland and wasn't born there. It is just another fabrication from the followers of sathya fudgepacker. Here is a url to a BBC report on human rights in Asia being affected by weak legal systems. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061222/wl_as...rights_061222081957
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| Tony O'Clery
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12-22-2006 04:09 PM ET (US)
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The difficulty of Al Rahm's suit was that there was really nobody to sue, no consistent legal entity. sb lives in India and is too petrified to come to the west in case the affidavits are served on him. As you know anyone with money or influence would not be prosecuted in India. It was really as simple as that.
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12-22-2006 03:14 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 12-22-2006 03:15 PM
I hope nobody is against Shirdi Baba.It is believed that if some on wants his desires fulfilled,he/she should read Sai Satcharitha atlesat three times without a gap. His/Her desires will be fulcilled for sure.I have experience of this.
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12-22-2006 03:10 PM ET (US)
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sanjay you say 'And more lies about the Alaya Rahm court case; it "flopped" for very good legal reasons and not at all why the unauthorised SB-defenders are saying."
What legal reasons??
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12-22-2006 02:37 PM ET (US)
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I see Tony has found another warped playmate in usedbyaba aka usedcrybaby. Ah, the freakzoids just can't stop playing their sicko mind games can they? Pathetic isn't it? They all belong in the looney bin. Perverts everyone of them.
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12-22-2006 02:11 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 12-22-2006 02:14 PM
In Defence Of Sathya Sai Baba Damage Control Kicks Into High Gear Blog Index Of Articles This Month The Truth About Vir Sanghvi Sanjay Worships Pink, Girly & Gay Gods Sanjay Rekindling His Love For Sathya Sai Baba Bhaktivedanta Manor, Sanjay Dadlani And 3G Sanjay's Disgusting Feces Obsession Sanjay's "Stalking" Paranoia Sanjay's "Direct Experience" Of Sathya Sai Baba's Godhood
Joe 108.I am not able to understand what way these are about Sathya sai Baba,except the last one.
On vir sangvi you have said he is wrong on calling the 2006 birth day of baba as his 80th.I wonder how it matters.
I did not read these : Sanjay Worships Pink, Girly & Gay Gods Sanjay Rekindling His Love For Sathya Sai Baba Bhaktivedanta Manor, Sanjay Dadlani And 3G Sanjay's Disgusting Feces Obsession Sanjay's "Stalking" Paranoia
because they are in no way connceted to baba.If they are related to baba please mention
You wrote about usedbybaba as follows:
Apparently, "usedbybaba" can't make up his mind whether students he claimed he personally knew truly suffered or "seemed" to suffer. He also can't make up his mind if he was really abused by Baba or if he simply "shuddered" at the thought of being abused by Baba. "UsedByBaba" said on the Quicktopic forum:
"Some students seem to have suffered a lot.I shudder the thought of being molested by senior students and also by baba. I would have gone bonkers."
We have to ask 'usedbybaba', what he meant by this
I did read about Tony being involved in racialism,but I did not see his name.Did he write in any other name? Is there any proof? If it is true,It is not good.
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12-22-2006 01:29 PM ET (US)
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Sathya Sai Baba has never been proven to be a "charlatan".
Sathya Sai Baba has never been convicted of any crime.
Sathya Sai Baba has never been charged with any crime.
Sathya Sai Baba has never had even one single complaint lodged against him by any alleged victim, first-hand, in India. As a matter of fact, not even one alleged victim has even tried to file a basic police complaint or court case against Sathya Sai Baba in India (the only place where courts would have jurisdiction over Baba as an individual defendent).
In India,MONEY = JUSTICE.So we cannot take this route.Till the 80s there were smugglers and gangsters running Bombay.Even now,big organisations(it maybe (political,business,religious or any other)can get people killed. Please read a lot about India.
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12-22-2006 01:19 PM ET (US)
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Marquis de Sade /m1603 This is sick.
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12-22-2006 12:37 PM ET (US)
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12-22-2006 12:21 PM ET (US)
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"Father," my sister said most imprudently, "we thank you for your proposal. But at our age we have no inclination to have ourselves locked up in a cloister in order to be whores for priests, weve had enough of that already."
The Superior renewed his arguments, he spoke with a heat and energy which illustrated his powerful desire to have the thing succeed; finally observing that it was destined to fail, he hurled himself almost in a fury upon my sister.
"Very well, little whore," he cried, "at least satisfy me once again before I take my leave."
And unbuttoning his breeches, he got astride her; she offered no resistance, persuaded that by allowing him to have his way shed be rid of him all the sooner. And the smutty fellow, pinning her between his knees, began to brandish and then to abuse a tough and rather stout engine, advancing it to within a quarter of an inch of my sisters face.
"Pretty face," he gasped, "pretty little whores face, how Ill soak it in my fuck, by sweet Jesus!"
And therewith the sluices opened, the sperm flew out, and the entirety of my sisters face, especially her nose and mouth, were covered with evidence of our visitors libertinage, whose passion might not have been so cheaply satisfied had his design in coming to us met with success. More complacent now, the man of Gods only thoughts were of escape; after having flung a crown upon the table and relit his lantern:
"You little fools, you are little tramps," he told us. "You are ruining your chances in this world; may Heaven punish your folly by causing you to fall on evil days, and may I have the pleasure of seeing you in misery; that would be my revenge, that is what I wish you."
My sister, busy wiping her face, paid him back his stupidities in kind, and, our door shutting behind the Superior, we spent the remainder of the night in peace.
"Youve just seen one of his favorite stunts," said my sister. "Hes mad about discharging in girls faces. If he only confined himself to that... but the scoundrel has a good many other eccentricities, and some of them are so dangerous that I do indeed fear..."
But my sister was sleepy, she dozed off without completing her sentence, and the morrow bringing fresh adventures with it, we gave no more thought to that one.
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12-22-2006 07:33 AM ET (US)
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Lisa,I want to know more about Sathya Sai Baba.If you keep abusing people ,where would we get to the truth.I would like to believe that Sathya sai and Shirdi sai are one and the same,but you are not putting up any point to discuss this.What is the point? I feel that as a Devotee of Shirdi Baba, I want to know more of Sathya Sai. Please help me prove that Sathya Sai baba is an incarnation of Shirdi baba,though I do not know what exactly is the fact. I have copied so many abuses in your mails. Why are you so angry. Sanjay and others would have abused,but is it worth following. Don't we have the proof to prove him wrong. Why should we be afraid. The follwing is just from a few messages of yours. Can we talk sense here.
"the dork Get over it crybaby. Go whine to your mommy childish drooling go see a shrink your cowardly accusers are ALL grown men who are LIARS bozo. ignoramus. you are too dumb Your journalists are flunkies what liars you guys are naive journalists look like fools obsessive hysteria and lies your idiocy is exposed dumbo yours is nothing but ad hominem hypocrisy. You are pathetic. You are projecting your own garbage A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR drugs, alcohol or both that enable so many of you conscienceless dregs. abusive behavior, lies and PERVERSIONS it's none of your business pervert so you are a LYING pervert. It's NONE of your business PERVERT Tony baloney your racist-sounding drivel betrays You need to see a shrink immature adolescent who just can't grow up Mind your own business pervert before you end up in jail"
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