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/m1097So basically, Herr Sanjay Dadlani has effectively shut down his own group so nobody can participate! How smart is that? Geez, talk about brain dead.
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/m1095You can stop lying any time now Barbara. I took that info DIRECTLY off of the VERY reputable site, Alibris book store.And IF you had been paying attention, you would have seen the previous LINK I supplied to that book store which CLEARLY showed that information. All you are doing is showing just how dishonest and dumb you are to think you are getting away with DOCUMENTED, UNREFUTABLE FACTS. Do you know what a fact is Barbara? Apparently not. It's time to grow up. You're NOT in kindergarten anymore. I know you think you are because you have your newfound friends, usedbybaba and Sanjay Dadlani to play with in your sandbox but really the issues are much more serious than your childish little mind games. It's time to grow up.
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So many head games, so little time... carolyndardee2006-11-04 12:42PM No Rating I have had personal experience with this one called SB. He is the devil incarnate. Some good people do not yet have full understanding of his "evil deeds" and demonic mission of ruling the whole world. He is like the evil man on the movie called X-MEN, who wants to rule everyone's minds. Stay away from him. He likes to play with boys in a bad way. Like, he wants to always rub and lick their private parts. OOh gross. I do not understand why he would want to do such a bad thing. Do you? A good report includes doing a lot of research. Did you know of these bad things that sb does?
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/m1097Kristijan, are you thick or something?I just told you that I do not have admin/owner powers and I am simply a moderator. The fact that you seriously believe that circa 250 members would be deleted in a bid to find your surreptitious and several identities for lurking says more about your big ego than it does about anyone else. "Yes I'm interested. I'm not a liar. I'm saying it how it is. Not only did you delete almost 250 members you also disabled reading messages through web. Now ,we only receive messages through mail ."No, you are not interested. You are a liar. If you were truly interested then you would have participated there instead of stealing posts and posting them in other forums. But no, you cannot even understand simple English; when somebody tells you not to break the rules and you continue to break the rules, what do you think will happen? I do not have to discuss SSBDC policies with you since you are a banned member because of your own bad behaviour and thus you have forfeited your right to comment on it. But for the record, the message archives have been disabled in order to test the new improvements to Yahoogroups that are coming up soon. Since you are a banned member, why does this bother you? You have no right to comment and I am not interested in your views. Of course you can be unbanned if you agree that you will follow the rules and stop stealing other people's messages without their permission, but given your behaviour since then that is hardly likely. "I am a criminal for posting messages from your group around the ineterent? Since when is that a criminal activity? I even give the source of the quote.""Criminal" refers to your behaviour of breaking the rules. If you break the law you will be arrested by the police. If you break the rules you will be thrown out. I have been exceptionally generous where rule-breaking is concerned because I have formulated a "three chances" rule: Three violations and you're out. For the record, you made two violations. You made many more than that but I forgave you and also gave you the benefit of the doubt because I thought you were just being mischievious. However after your two recorded violations and your third instance of rule-breaking (by posting one of my messages here into that forum with a view to start a fight) I invoked the special emergency rule and you were banned straightaway. Of course you know that, for several years the SSBDC has been running on informal common-sense rules and with no formalities. The reason why official rules were introduced a few months ago was because of - surprise surprise - bad behaviour and foul language from Sai devotees. The rules are also sent to every member automatically on a monthly basis, so nobody can claim to be ignorant about them. So don't give me any bullshit. You and I both know what you did so stop pretending. I could have forgiven you many more things but since you have come out as openly biased in favour of Sathya Sai Baba and people like Gerald Moreno and Lisa De Witt, you even forfeited simple human kindness. And it's your own fault because you didn't follow the rules. You didn't follow the rules because you have no discipline, you have no idea of how to behave in a moderated forum. Try and see if you can behave like that in strict Sai Baba forums like Bon Giovanni's, and let me see what happens to you. Gerald and Lisa have no idea how to behave in moderated forums either, which is why they are abused all over the place. "I think it's fair that some ppl know what was being said in your group about some relevant issues. You just want to prevent them from knowing.That's why you went to extremes,like deleting 70 percent of your members and disabling web function."CORRECTION - You think it's fair that Gerald Moreno and Lisa De Witt should know what is being said in the SSBDC about some relevant issues. You know full well that they were banned for their own bad behaviour too. Don't even bother denying that your behaviour so far has been for their benefit. I believe that you are a liar because you pretend that you are "neutral" to the Sai Baba controversy and that you just have some sort of "interested curiosity" about it. You have now been exposed as being openly biased in favour of SSB and a supporter of Gerald and Lisa, which is why you are not even honest in your misbehaviour, viz., you only stole the posts of Andy Rye, knowing that he is a Sai devotee and a critic of anti-Sais, in order to give people the impression that "intelligent debate" was going on. If you are so "neutral" then why didn't you steal the posts of Ayasha Alden, who has openly stated that she is neutral and is telling Andy Rye off for not giving other people a chance to put forward their views? The answer is because you are biased in favour of Sathya Sai Baba and you will support anything to do with him, even if people like Andy Rye are exposed (by their own words) as horrible racists, referring to Jews as "arseholes" and black people as "niggers". If anybody wants to know what is going on there, they simply have to join the club and read messages. That's it, so simple. Duh. I have advertised the SSBDC all over the place, appending it's URL to every post on my blog and membership of active members has gone up as a result. So why would I suppress discussion when Sai devotees like Venkataraman Tinnium are allowed to repeat their brainwashed dribbles over and over again? Your arguments are so silly that I wonder how you can make them with an apparent straight face. "that was the 3rd meeting i attended in 6 years. It was for general public."Do I look like I care? But the fact that you attend these meetings, associate with devotees, take pictures and videos and upload them on the Net - in short, openly embracing devotees of a suspicious guru - reveals that you are fully biased in favour of him. This is also proven by your own statements; You read every piece of nasty trash written by Lisa and Gerald and you have nothing to say about their own documented lies and bad behaviour, but you do not read critical material about Sai Baba by your own admission. Just now you have posted a message on SSB2 saying that my posting about a Quebec person talking about defecation (and how it would stimulate Gerald Moreno's perverted sexual proclivities) was "distasteful", but you become silent whenever Gerald or Lisa make a documented lie or an extremely nasty remark against former devotees. You don't even have anything to contribute to discussions on Sai Baba except to get into fights with ubb and accuse other people of having multiple identities and banning 250 members to find you, silly remarks. You are a liar and a deceiver.So I'd appreciate it if you could stop wasting my time. I'm no longer interested in anything you have to say unless you come up with something really astounding.
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/m1103Hey Sanjay, according to your dictates nobody should be associating with a pervert like you because you are SO suspicious (with documentation on boot and jesus porn fetishes, etc. to prove what a hypocritical pervert you are /m272). And talk about bad behavior! You are the poster boy for bad behavior you hypocrite. All that's missing in your wardrobe is the jail cell. I wonder when you bozos will wake up and realize you guys are the perverts and bad guys ( see saisathyasai.com). I guess it's going to take the kind of wake up call America just gave the corrupt neocons who are constantly trying to tell everyone else how to live when they are biggest perverts and hypocrites of all. Time to grow up and face reality bozo. In a January 23, 2002 letter to Tony Colman, Blair wrote:"...Foreign and Commonwealth (FCO) and other Government Departments are aware of the many allegations against Sai Baba. Our High Commission in New Delhi and Deputy High Commission in Chennai continue to monitor the situation closely. However, as I explained to you last year, there is little that the Government can do. Those who have complaints against Sai Baba will have to take them to the Indian police. No formal charges have been brought against him." ******** Get with it "you silly little amateur."
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Carbon Dioxide, stop repeating the same old dribble again and again. Even the Guardian acknowledged that no charges had been brought against him. However, the British public are concerned about how an entire planeload of around 200 fresh and juicy British boys are flying to see him for a month, when the US State Dept. has published a travel advisory against him that has been online since 2001.
What to speak of the huge amount of potential bad publicity to be gained by associating these perverts with the Duke of Edinburgh's Award scheme. Tough luck. You are a silly little amateur who has managed to accomplish nothing at all, whereas we we have several worldwide articles publsihed in national newspapers, two television documentaries and a US State Dept. warning. Flap your arms and cry all you want; In Puttaparthi no one can hear you scream. :-)
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Sanjay, you are the silly little amateur who keeps repeating nonsense EVEN in the face of the IRREFUTABLE FACTS. Too bad you keep recruiting dumb journalists who don't know how to do their job. One failure after another and you idiots still don't wake up.
And like I said on the other board to your question:
OBVIOUSLY the white guys at the Guardian either didn't do their homeowrk or they are bigots or BOTH. You pick bozo. Maybe the white guys at the Guardian can explain why they told us there were WMDs in Iraq when there weren't or why they believe in the supernatural morphing genitalia the accusers claim.
Wake up dumbo.
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/m1103"you have no idea of how to behave in a moderated forum." ___________ "Liar,criminal" ,blablablablaahhaahhahaha,such strong words. I just thought it's interesting what A.R. had to say about the other A.R., cause he met him.That's all.People have the right to know. I'm not judging anyone nor am i rude.I don't recall using a rude word ever at least not on SB's forums ,LOL.nobody is perfect .I'm not.I know it looks I'm in favor of Sb cause i never criticize him. You need to calm down.I see you're very upset and stuff.You think ,why haven't i said anything negative about SB ever or something in support of your "expose". Well i can't do that cause i don't know what the truth is and it's just not gonna do me any good ,if i start seeing SB in negative light.And i don't have to do that,cause time will tell.Well...I hope. And i don't always read all the posts.I really don't. i haven't read Barbara's posts, just took a brief look at it.I don't feel like reading that bizarre stuff. I do think you have a right to make your point in a tasteful manner.
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/m1107Irrefutable facts? What irrefutable facts? Failure? What failure? Do you even know what effect the Guardian has had? :-) I could reveal a few hints but Liar Moreno will misuse and twist them, so tough luck. :-) "White guys" eh? Thanks for providing more proof that you are a Nazi racist. Nazi because of your reference in an earlier post to me as "Herr Sanjay". Speaking of which, Lisa, why did you have a book on your Amazon wishlist about the 'Volk'? :-) We all know what the 'Volk' means, don't we? I want to know why Lisa had a book about the 'Volk' on her Amazon wishlist? :-)
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Sanjay Dadlani 9 09-11-2001 06:18 PM ET (US)
There are at least THREE people on that list who I can personally verify where not and never were molested.
68.Jagdish H.Bharwani 69.Sunil H.Bharwani 70.Naveen H.Bharwani
The very fact that these three brothers are on this list fills me with laughter. I know this family very well and they are at a loss to explain why their names appear on this fabricated list.
These Bharwani brothers who I personally know also verified that many other names on the list are totally false and were NEVER molested or in any way "intimately conected" with Sai Baba. and I am awaiting the complete list of names (or non-names) from them.
I personally believe that on the testimony of the Bharwani brothers that the entire list is fabricated, but in any case if this list is reposted in this or any other forum, I would like it if these three names were struck off from the list, as it has offended the family very much.
If anyone doubts my claim that I know this family, that is their problem. This family lives in Indonesia and have been devotees of Sai Baba since the 1960s, and are also very close family friends of mine. They have had many wonderful experiences of Sai's miracles and own a flat in PN that Sai personally allocated to them.
I lost touch with them a few years back because of the civil war in Indonesia, but I recently got back in touch and even though their access to a computer is sparing, it may take some time for them to reply and provide me with the rest of the false names.
I repeat my request on their behalf to remove the Bharwani names from the list. It is nothing but SHAMEFUL to steal a copy of ex-student's names from the Whitefield Principal's office and then post it on the Internet as a list of names of students who have been SEXUALLY MOLESTED! Or not, as it may seem.
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Kristijan, I am calm. I just take it very seriously when rules are broken. I wouldn't be a very good moderator on the SSBDC if I allowed rules to be broken. Please try to understand that it is not OK to use other people's posts without permission. Other forums also observe this rule.
Believe it or not, I have treated you relatively lightly because I have a special affection for you. I don't know why, but you come across to me as someone who is "innocent" about all these things especially since you haven't seen Sai Baba "in the flesh" even once. Since I happened to receive to loads of SB books for free (and am reading them), I am remembering how "wonderful" it was to be a Sai devotee and how easy it is to believe those stories. Then I have to pinch myself and "wake up" and remember the reality of it all. I sincerely believe that you are the same; since you have never met Sai Baba, you are afected by all that is written about him. You do not know what life in the ashram is really like and what it really means to be in Sai Baba's presence. It is not like how it is written in the books. So in that way, I cannot blame you for the fact that you are enthusiastic/biased in Sai baba's favour; so would I if I didn't know what I know now.
Nobody is asking you to think of Sai Baba in a negative light, least of all me. I would even go as far as to say that you should not think of Sai Baba in a negative light. But you have to be critical: remember what I have been saying all along, that I discovered that Sai Baba was a fraud through my own research/knowledge of his philosophical/theological inconsistencies. That's my angle. I studied and am still studying proper Vedic/Vedantic philosophy and there is plenty of evidence that proves Sai Baba as a complete dunce when it comes to philosophy. But again, that's my angle. If you really are neutral then it is your duty to take the good with the bad. You should hear good things about Sai Baba (and even I will acknowledge them) but you must hear the bad things too. To not admit that there are bad things about Sai Baba is to be in denial. Please, don't be in denial and don't defend him to the death for no reason. There may be good with Sai Baba but there is also bad. I will have respect for people who acknowledge this.
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Too funny. Yes Sanjay we know there are ignoramuses like you who believe anything they read. That's why we don't let newspapers play judge and jury. Get it yet dumbo or do I have to draw a map for you in CRAYON like you are a five year old? In reality, the Guardian just made fools of themselves like the BBC did.
Hard to believe you guys are so stupid.
Remember how the dummies ranted after all the documentaries like they had actually accomplished something? This is another momentary thrill for the anti-Sais with the usual DUD to follow soon after.
Better get your tranquilizers ready Sanjay, you are going to need them with as dense as you are.
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Kristijan, yes. Although, I do not know those Bharwani boys well enough to tell if they were molested. I wrote that post when I was a devotee in denial. So I have no clue if they were molested or not, they may well have been. I am still out of touch with them and that family.
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Lisa, yes yes yes. The Guardian is stupid. The BBC, a world-renowned broadcaster, is stupid. The Daily Telegraph is stupid. Salon.Com is stupid. Trouw is stupid. Bild is stupid. The Australian Age is stupid. The Sydney Herald is stupid. The Daily Mirror is stupid. DR is stupid. Everyone who thinks Sai Baba is a fraud is stupid.
Take that crayon logic to the world's press and see who believes you. :-)
You and Gerald probably voted Bush yesterday, you racist maniacs.
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No, I think you are stupid because EVEN in light of the IRREFUTABLE FACTS you dummies are still pushing your LIES. That is why I think you are so stupid.
Read my lips dumbo:
"No accusers have filed CHARGES with the police."
Got that? Now wake up STUPID!
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Let's go over it again for the dummies. NO alleged crime victim is taken seriously UNLESS s/he FILES an OFFICIAL complaint with the POLICE. The anti-Sais are trying to avoid this issue because they KNOW they have absolutley NO ground to stand on. This is the ONE clue that the anti-Sai campaign is NOTHING but a smear campaign designed to deceive people. NOT ONE OF THE ACCUSERS HAS EVER TRIED TO FILE CHARGES WITH THE POLICE IN INDIA!Here is the IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE: Apparently the anti-Sais don't READ their own material. This is the very SAME sheet that has the so-called warning against an unnamed religious leader. This consular information sheet regarding India CLEARLY advises crime victims to do TWO things. #1. Report the crime to the police. #2. Contact the U.S. embassy or consulate for assistance. For some reason the alleged victims think they are above the law when it comes to reporting procedures. Apparently they would rather whine everyone to death than do their DUTY and PROPERLY report a crime they allege was committed. We can ALL easily deduce WHY this is so. They all seemed to have plenty of time and money to run to India prior to the allegations. ************ ********* ********* ******** Consular Information Sheet Advises Crime Victims on HOW to Proceed "If you are the victim of a crime while overseas, in addition to reporting to local police, please contact the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate for assistance. The embassy/consulate staff can, for example, assist you to find appropriate medical care, to contact family members or friends and explain how funds could be transferred. Although the investigation and prosecution of the crime is solely the responsibility of local authorities, consular officers can help you to understand the local criminal justice process and find an attorney if needed." More documented proof the anti-Sais are not following government guidelines regarding criminal allegations. In a January 23, 2002 letter to former MP, Tony Colman, Blair wrote:"...Foreign and Commonwealth (FCO) and other Government Departments are aware of the many allegations against Sai Baba. Our High Commission in New Delhi and Deputy High Commission in Chennai continue to monitor the situation closely. However, as I explained to you last year, there is little that the Government can do. Those who have complaints against Sai Baba will have to take them to the Indian police. No formal charges have been brought against him."
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Lie: Several molestees have attempted to file charges both with the Indian police and with the police in their own countries. Also, several legal petitions (two of which brought some fruit) and legal petitions were registered both in Indian and American courts. So stop lying.It ultimately doesn't matter anyway, because Sathya Sai Baba now has a black name in the world's media. No matter what anyone does, he will never get past these things. :-)
According to recent "hot" information, he spends most of his time crying these days. Lol.
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Of course my heart bleeds for anyone who sheds tears, but come on, Sai Baba brough it all on himself. He shouldn't have lied about his DOB and about his being the reincarnation of Shirdi Sai. He has been lying since the beginning. Now all these lies are coming to light. Let these lighted-up lies light the dull brains of dull lights who need a new circuit. :-)
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/m1117, /m1116Baloney. You are LYING and you know it. Not ONE of your accusers has EVER claimed they tried to file an OFFICIAL report with Indian police. If in fact they had, the documentation of such would carry great weight either for or against them. And reports to police outside India are useless (as are petitions) as Tony Blair clearly told you bozos in 2002! This is another reason just WHY Sanjay is the LAST person anyone should use as a spokes person. He will lie at the drop of a hat just to deceive.
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Only a few hundred dummies like you think Sai Baba has a black name. MILLIONS of intelligent people who have been smart enough to look beyond your campaign of hate and lies know better.
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The only one with a black name is Sanjay. By his own admission, he has a black heart too. Sanjay, have you recently licked any gun barrels with your tongue and contemplated blowing your brains out? :-) And do tell us once again why you listen to Hard Rock Music? Or do I need to quote you on that too? lol
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Of course my heart bleeds for anyone who sheds tears but, come on, Sinjay brought it ALL on himself. He shouldn't have lied about being such a pervert and a very sanctimonious one at that. Oh, and the horror of it all...airing his sexual picadillos in public like he thinks he is George Michael or something. For shame!
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If you know the bharvani brothers, can you give us the details of each one of them.I know them much much more than you.Can you tel, how their father died and what your Sai baba told their mother. They used to get interviews when they were small boys and along with their parents who were rich.Tell them to come to this site and write to me. If they are known to you. They were small boys who were interested in Cricket (jagdish bharvani was not interested in cricket)and left puttaparthi in the 80s when the eldest of the lot jagdish was in 9 th std. The youngest studied for some more time.If they know who i am, they will not refute anything that I say. So don't give me this bharvani brothers thing. every name in the list is correct Which Indian (they are basically Indians - can u tell me their mother tounge) ever told you that he was molested by baba. Even i would refuse that i was molested by baba, if you meet me directly. WE WILl CONFIDE IT ONLY to OUR FRIENDS.This molestation has gone on and on and 99% of the form boys were molested.So there might be a mistake of putting up a name here and there but don't say all the names are fake or a list from college. If it was a list then why the list contains students from different classes and different batches.
In more than 25 years only 100 students name they could get or what?? Every year there were nearly 1000 new students.Some in the list have never seen each other,because of the age gap.Nityanand menon is around 50 and barvani brothers are just in their 30s and lot of students came after the bharvani brothers.
I LIVED IN PUTTAPARTHI FOR MORE NUMBER OF YEARS THAN THESE KIDS( I LIKE ALL THREE OF THEM)
Do you know that the bharvani brothers blame Harish Mirpuri's (the business man from Indonesia who is still a devotee and baba is also a devotee of their money) father of cheating their father of millions of dollars or whatever currency it is.
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If you know the barvani brothers very well you obviously and most probably have seen baba in parthi.
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Are you blind usedbybaba? Sanjay Dadlani even refutes your claim. He said he KNEW for a fact three of those students by the name of Bharwani were NOT molested. Doesn't THAT put you in a pickle jar (where you belong)? CLICK HERE to see Sanjay Dadlani's post. There is absolutely NO proof any of those students on that list you posted were molested you liar. In fact, there are posts by SEVERAL people on that board claiming to be those students OR parents of students who say it is NOT true. You are really stupid to think if that many people were molested that the police in India wouldn't know and do something about it by now. You are living in a fairytale world bozo the clown. I've PERSONALLY talked to students who say it is NOT true and that you and anybody else who claims so is a LIAR. Get some mental help bozo. You need it for your delusions as bad, if not worse, than Barbara does.
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I want people to take note of how usedbybaba so carelessly casts aspersions, babbles, gossips and throws other peoples names and private information around (for them) while he cowers behind an anonymous name. And then, as if that weren't bad and incongruous enough, the bozo refuses to answer questions about his OWN allegations that he was molested by Baba when he was nineteen years old. Notice too, he is constantly claiming he knows all these people yet he has no way to contact them and is ALWAYS ordering other people to contact people he claims he knows! If he knows all these people on the list WHY doesn't he contact them and why don't they back up his claims? Obviously,if he REALLY had known them from the list, they would be here affirming who they are wouldn't they? So this proves he did NOT get the names from these students or he would have their contact info.
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JOE 108-- You wrote the following in post #1098
"Barbara, from you IP, of course. It resolves to either Seattle or Colorado (depending on which filter is used). I see all of your activity on my site. Of course, I was joking when I said Mother Mary told me. I can see all the relevant particulars about your computer, browser, IP and that you saved my page to your favorites."
Ok, my question for you is this. WHAT PAGE of YOURS did I save to MY favorites?
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/m1121"Oh too funny", now Gerald Moreno thinks that listening to hard rock music is a character flaw. This comes from someone who listens to Sai bhajans and Buddhist chants all day. Why does Gerald Moreno want to know about my tastes is music, is he jealous or something? Keep your dripping nose out of my private business, dawg, and sit down in shame at the black name of your perverted faggot evil guru. You do realise that every single thing that is published within the United Kingdom is archived for posterity in the British Library, which is one of the world's most famous libraries? This means that Sai Baba's black name is archived FOREVER in the hallowed halls of the British Library. :-) Dry your tears, Moreno, and wake up to reality. You fools brough it all on yourselves when you managed to piss off the Queen's husband, and now even Sai Baba sits crying all day. Sit down and shut up, you silly little amateur, and know who runs the Sai Exposé. You're already in trouble trying to fight a war you can't win, namely your ridiculous contention that Salon.Com is not a reputable source when you have several editorsd telling you different. Lol. Bog yourself down in these issues while we continue to make hay while the sun shines. Now get back to gnashing your teeth and snarling like feral toxic waste.
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/m1119"Baloney. You are LYING and you know it. Not ONE of your accusers has EVER claimed they tried to file an OFFICIAL report with Indian police."Goes to show how much you know. What did Jens Sethi do? What did Hari Sampath do? Sethi listed (or tried to list) a complaint with the Puttaparthi police and got ran out of town. Sampath registered a legal complaint with the Indian courts and it got thrown out by a judge who was a Sai devotee, and who poked his nose beyond his legal purview. This has been repeated over and over again, but barking dogs like you continue to bark the same old lies that none has ever "tried" to file a complaint. "If in fact they had, the documentation of such would carry great weight either for or against them."You are horribly naive. Why don't you try to file a complaint against Sai Baba/his ashram with the Puttaparthi police and see where it gets you? I'll tell you where, it'll get you humiliated in the newspapers. Yes, if you go out alone at night and get raped, no one will listen to you. People will laugh at you. "How can such things happen in the Kingdom of God"? Then you know what will happen? You'll appear on my blog. Just like this: Geramn Woman Alleges Rape In Puttaparthi. Wanna try it? "However, some top police officials said she appeared to be mentally disturbed ... She also stated that she was forced to complain to the chief as the local police had failed to take her complaint seriously. However, a senior police official in the town said the woman was a drug addict and mentally unsound. 'It is hard to believe her statements. We have registered a case and the truth will come out after the probe.' ... This is not the first time a foreign devotee has complained of being raped in Puttaparthi and police have dismissed the devotee as being mentally disturbed." Yes, that is what will happen, you will be condemned in the press as mentally disturbed. No one will take you seriously, not even the police. If this happens to women when heterosexual rape is "normal", how do you think they will deal with a complaint of homosexual molestation levelled at the big gun Sai Baba himself? You are so naive I wonder how you still stay alive. And reports to police outside India are useless (as are petitions) as Tony Blair clearly told you bozos in 2002!"Dragging up old material, eh? I understand your dsperation. :-) Things have hanged a lot since them, do you know what Tony Blair's feelings are on the matter now? Of course you don't. :-) Why would you? You are horribly naive. :-) Sit down and shut up you old amateur. :-) "This is another reason just WHY Sanjay is the LAST person anyone should use as a spokes person. He will lie at the drop of a hat just to deceive."On the contrary I have always spoen the truth. And by the way I am not a spokesman for anybody or anything. I am my own agent. It is your buddy Gerald who keeps insisting that I am the "current mouthpiece" when he has no evidence to suport his speculaitons as usual. Therefore this is you lie. Deal with it and meditate on your guru's divine anal sex leelas and how wonderful they are.
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/m1131I should mention the context of my previous posting vis-a-vis German Woman Alleges Rape In Puttaparthi. I have personal knowledge of how dangerous it is around Sai Baba's ashrams, especially at night, and the situation is the same everywhere else too. I spent 3 months in the summer of 1993 at Sai Baba's Whitefield and Puttaparthi ashrams when I was 14/15 years old (I spent my 15th birthday with Sai Baba). The bulk of the three months was spent at Whitefield where I used to work all day in the Indian canteen. Unlike in Puttaparthi, the Indian canteen is located several hundred yards from the main ashram and is about a 10-15 minute walk away. I did seva there all day every day for breakfast, lunch preparation, serving lunch, back to ashram for evening darshan and bhajans, and then back again to serve tiffin (afternoon snacks). My mother forbade me to do seva at dinner time (in the night) because that would involve a long walk all alone in the dark where there are not even street lamps to guide the way. There was a high incidence of rapes, robberies and assaults taking place and this was known even among the local resident community, therefore everyone advised me to not perform seva at night despite my enthusiasm for doing so, so that I don't take the risk of being kidnapped, assaulted, etc. To the best of my memory I only did this once and only after one of my older friends promised to accompany me there and back when it was some special occasion, a festival or something to which I was personally invited. I was once approached at twilight by an agent who claimed to be a representative of some devotee who received personal messages from Sai Baba. This was the type of person who is regularly condemned in the Sanathana Sarathi as an unauthorised agent claiming miracles etc, and so I dismissed him. Therefore there is a lot of criminal activity in and around Puttaparthi and Whitefield, the so-called Kingdoms of God. Too bad. I'm not surprised that this German woman got raped, there have been many other reports too. And the local police? Forget about it. They're about as useful as a fifth wheel. Their only purpose is to get drunk at night and rape the female pickpockets in the cells that they picked up ("arrested") that day. Even on the night of the 1993 murders the senior police officer was drunk.
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Jens Seth did NOT file a police report about being molested in INDIA YOU LIAR! His alleged report to police in Germany does no good as Tony Blair ALREADY told you idiots in 2002 which was AFTER Sampath tried to play his games with the Indian government. Hari Sampath did NOT file charges for alleged molestation victims with Indian police (because he could NOT by law)! Nor was he an alleged molestation victim you idiot! Sampath CANNOT file charges for other people. The lying cowards HAVE to face the music themselves. And crime victims do NOT go to the CBI to file charges for sex crimes dumbo. Those are handled by the POLICE. See folks, this is how stupid these people are. They do not even know how to use common sense. I have explained these issues over and over again and they are STILL playing the same mind games with the issues. Read my lips DUMBO: Alleged victims MUST file charges with the police just like any other citizen in ANY other country must do. Citizens in Britain do NOT run to MI-5 to file charges if they are sexually assaulted you idiot. NOR do they run to the Parliament. They go to the POLICE!!! Either you are too stupid to understand the difference or you KNOW the difference and you are playing mind games. The FEAR excuse doesn't work either dumbo. All a foreigner has to do is NOTIFY the U.S. Embassy and/or take a lawyer with them if they think they are going to have problems so there is NO excuse. And the media would be ALL over it. PERIOD. You are the one who is incredibly naive you "silly little amateur". You don't have a CLUE what you are talking about. Let's go over it again for the dummy. NO alleged crime victim is taken seriously UNLESS s/he FILES an OFFICIAL complaint with the POLICE. The anti-Sais are trying to avoid this issue because they KNOW they have absolutely NO ground to stand on. This is the ONE clue that the anti-Sai campaign is NOTHING but a smear campaign designed to deceive people. NOT ONE OF THE ACCUSERS HAS EVER TRIED TO FILE CHARGES WITH THE POLICE IN INDIA!Here is the IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE: Apparently the anti-Sais don't READ their own material. This is the very SAME sheet that had the UNconstitutional warning against an unnamed religious leader. This consular information sheet regarding India CLEARLY advises crime victims to do TWO things. #1. Report the crime to the police. #2. Contact the U.S. embassy or consulate for assistance. For some reason the alleged victims think they are above the law when it comes to reporting procedures. Apparently they would rather whine everyone to death than do their DUTY and PROPERLY report a crime they allege was committed. We can ALL easily deduce WHY this is so. They all seemed to have plenty of time and money to run to India prior to the allegations. ********* ********* ********* Consular Information Sheet Advises Crime Victims on HOW to Proceed "If you are the victim of a crime while overseas, in addition to reporting to local police, please contact the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate for assistance. The embassy/consulate staff can, for example, assist you to find appropriate medical care, to contact family members or friends and explain how funds could be transferred. Although the investigation and prosecution of the crime is solely the responsibility of local authorities, consular officers can help you to understand the local criminal justice process and find an attorney if needed." More documented proof the anti-Sais are not following government guidelines regarding criminal allegations. In a January 23, 2002 letter to former MP, Tony Colman, Blair wrote:"...Foreign and Commonwealth (FCO) and other Government Departments are aware of the many allegations against Sai Baba. Our High Commission in New Delhi and Deputy High Commission in Chennai continue to monitor the situation closely. However, as I explained to you last year, there is little that the Government can do. Those who have complaints against Sai Baba will have to take them to the Indian police. No formal charges have been brought against him."
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Lisa, stop barking like a rabid rottweiler. You do not know the details of these incidents because you were not even around at the time. Those of us who have been around since the beginning of this whole Exposé know things about this case that you do not.
Nor do you even know how the Indian legal system works. Sampath simply registered the complaint, he is not a lawyer not is he a sexual abuse victim, where did I say that? Sto pputting words in my mouth and stop talking bullshit. Even your own US State Dept warns people not to visit Sai Baba because they are in danger of being "inappropriately" handled.
Deal with it already and get lost. Or take these two words: "Woof woof". :-)
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Oh and by the way, stop editing your posts after the fact to make it look like you said more than what I addressed. Discuss honestly or don't discuss at all.
Assuming you can have a discussion with a barking mutt anyway.
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Sanjay, stop barking like a rabid pervert. You are too stupid to be here. Go away retard.
I can edit my posts ANY way I like you gestapo freakazoid. WHY do you think there is an EDIT function dumbo? It's called the POWER of words. Get over it crybaby.
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Black people are "niggers". Jews are "arseholes". The British media is full of "white people". And all Middle-Eastern men should be tied up and gagged. This is the racist and evil face of the Sai Defence Movement.
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This is not your forum so don't tell other people what to do, faggot-worshipper. How apropos that you are a homosexual too. As the guru, so the disciple. Woof woof. :-)
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This is NOT your forum so don't tell people what to do, hypocritical jesus porn pervert and liar extraordinaire. /m272You are so dumb and corrupt it's scary.
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*Sigh*
Do I need to remind the rottweiler that she is telling people to "go away" from here when she has no right to do so, when I have told her not to tell other people what to do?
What more do we need to know from childish rabid faggot-worshippers, who have been publicly embarrassed all over England, India and Taiwan? :-) She is 46 years old apparently.
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Do I need to tell the pervert he is a hypocrite who constantly tells people what to do including go away?
Look in the mirror DUMBO.
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Lisa, when you have grown up (a little more) and can come back with some intelligent rebuttals that prove you to be a worthy participant in discussion, give me a call.
Until then, you and your equally psychotic buddy Gerald Moreno will continue to be ignored by us and the media too. No wonder he is still whining about it. :-)
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Sanjay , when you have grown up a little more and can come back with something intelligent and truthful, let us know. We won't hold our breath though because we know what a pervert you are.
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/m1137This from the hypocritical pervert who has been calling me "white trash" on the other board. Hard to believe he is this demented and stupid isn't it? Oh yeah, and then there was Sanjay's comment, "How can Krishna be both black and beautiful at the same time?" Pathetic innit?
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You are white trash because you behave like white trash. If you behaved like a mature and responsible adult, able to discuss in a calm, peaceful and rational way, then people would have more respect for you. It's no wonder nobody talks to you or cares what you have to say. You are embarrassing to Gerald Moreno, who is desperately trying to make his voice heard and is drowned out by your barking.
By the way, at least have the decency to quote me properly. My comment about Krishna is taken out of context from a "philosophical" discussion with Sarfaraz Shamsi. You are a shameful liar if you try to portray this as a racist comment. Hardly surprising, given that you have lied through your teeth since you were born.
Get a life, life with your racism, live with your white trashness, live with your faggot guru, live with shame. All the international agencies know about Sathya Sai Baba and his homosexual proclivities, including the US State Dept. who warn travellers to India to stay away from his place. And now a whole plane-load of boys are flying to India while Sai Baba's eyes shine expectantly at the sight of fresh meat. Woof woof.
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The Guardian story is now being carried by the Kuwait Times. ROFLOL. Now it's all over for Sai Baba! He has a large (Indian) following in the Middle East with some Iranian devotees too.. Now the Muslim world is going to pick up on the story of this fake "god" and condemn him forever! :-)) :-D
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/m1145See what I mean folks? No shame from the psychopathic pervert, Sanjay Dadlani. Dadlani is a misogynist who went around stalking women and put their pictures all over his streetbitches blog and wrote comments under them such as, "They want it," and other disgusting pornographic comments. Prior to that he was on a jesus porn site asking for pics of "naughty jesus." Sanjay Dadlani is getting EXACTLY what he deserves for his constantly abusive behavior towards anyone who stands up to his perversions and bullying. No more and no less. In fact, the con artist should most likely be in jail. see /m272
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Lizzy, :-)
not that we actually care for your deranged and schizophrenic opinion (seen Jesus around lately?), but what do you have to say about the Guardian story now being carried in the Kuwait Times? Do you know what an effect this will have on Muslims, who are already institutionally intolerant of other faiths as it is? :-) And what effect this will have on Sai activities in Kuwait/Middle East? :-)
Didn't you say that all Middle-Eastern men should be tied-up and gagged? :-) For shame. :-)
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Not that we care for your psychopathic and deranged opinion, Dadlani, but have you seen your psychiatrist lately bozo? Before you end up in jail? After all, you are the one going around stalking people with your camera and writing weird, perverted stuff on the internet.
Lies written by media are LIES regardless of WHERE they are printed dumbo. You still haven't answered about the WMDs and incredibly morphing genitalia that show either the media whores are dummies who don't do their research or they purposely manipulated information just like the WMD incident in order to further an agenda.
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My Opinion? Click Away And Find Out:
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Interesting point, C02000, one of the translations for "Krsna" is "black" ( Reference). Strange that Sanjay, the racist, is devoted to a black God. Hmmmm. Cry that out of your system, Sangay :-)
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Too bad Gerald Moreno doesn't have anything tangible to say about how Sai baba's black name is spreading like wildfire, and is now bandied about in the Muslim world as a confirmed paedophile. He can cry himself to sleep while trying to argue on Wikipedia that Salon.Com is not a reliable source when he has no less than two administrators disagreeing with his ridiculous position, ROFLOL.
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That's why Krishna is 99% of the time depicted in blue, maybe something is going on that you don't know about. What a shame you don't know Sanskrit. :-) Anyway, stop talking irrelevant garbage you closet homosexual and open embracer of perverts, drunkards and drug addicts. Go away to Wikipedia and continue your humiliating defeat by two Wikipedia administrators over the reliability of Salon.Com, LOL. You silly fool, of course the ArbCom decision is doomed to fail. You're trying to propose a "test case" which if you win, thousands (millions?) of Wikipedia articles will have to be modified and their Salon references deleted. No wonder you accepted defeat and thought an RFC is better. Get your head out of your anus and wake up to reality. You are an insane devotee of a faggot guru who also supports other child rapists like Premananda, you were even molested by Sai Baba. No wonder everyone laughs at you, and no wonder "nobody noticed" all of your pages on the Net. You are a wackoand everyone knows it. :-)
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Helloooooo, Mr. Freestone Wilson!! Are you out there anywhere?? Did you read my last post? Helllooooo! In case you didn't catch it before, it's post #1087.
I'm Carolyn/Kickbaaabaaaa'sass. Please read my post! I'd love to hear from you.
Maybe you can help me with this one, Gerald 'Joe' Moreno? Maybe you could answer for him. Do you know if he's really neutral? Are you? Your website blog name seems to claim that you are the great Equalizer. Seems to me your balance button is a bit off. Need some adjusting? Seems that Freestone claims to be neutral and you claim to be the great Equalizer. How can an equalizer equal anything if his balance is way off? For example, can you try to be "nice" to any aniti-sai activist? Come on now, just try it. Don't you know that's how you "win" one over? If you were "nice" to any anti-sai person, they might listen to you a little better. It's hard, however, to convince an anti-sb activist that sb is good when they've all had horrific experiences with him. You might have a very difficult job here (actually it's an impossible job) trying to "Equalize" anything.
There's also another way of looking at your job here as Equalizer. This is way more accurate. The anti-sb activists are far winning and you're trying to help out poor sb. He's pretty far down there on the scale so you'll have to fight EXTRA hard to get him back up there!! I don't think you're doing very well, however. None of us have changed our minds about sb. Now, if the anti-sb activists were far down on the scale, and you are the great Equalizer, then why aren't you being nice to them and encouraging them so that they feel "equal"? You are doing a very BAD job. I'd fire you if I were your boss.
Alas! I have my answer! You really don't know what you're doing out there, do you? You don't really know what your function is, now do you? You are definitely a sb activist, because your actions prove you are. But, of course, we all know that by now. You see, how can anyone believe ANYTHING that you say when you are so "off balance"? Is any of this making sense to the great Equalizer? What is your job? Do you know yet? On a little friendly note, you might want to change a few things on your web site-- like the Equalizer title. It just makes you look really stupid. Of course you probably like that.... being stupid, that is.
Oh and by the way, once again you still prove your stupidity when you post my story as Barbara's. That's how we know that you lie about everyone else! Oh, but I forgot, everyone knows how much you lie. Silly me. You defeat your own purpose! Where's my Exposed file? Oh that's right, you still believe that I'm a non-entity. I guess that means that I can write all that I want and you will never acknowledge me as real. Actually, it's because you cannot find out ANYTHING about me. I intend to keep it that way. I'd rather communicate about you than with you. Now, let's see, if I go to your site, will you know that I am real? Can you see if your site is on MY favorites list? Seems like you double whammy yourself a lot. Are your "nuts" feeling a little bruised lately?
Well this one "non-entity" has better things to do right now than showing you how to do your job. I did, however, have fun Equalizing you. Ta-Tah
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/m1154Carolyn, when anti-Sais won't even listen to the Prime Minister of India, two Supreme Court Justices of India, Tony Blair, or God for that matter...what makes you think they are going to listen to anybody else? Not only that but you people are the ones constantly attacking others and then playing the victims. You refuse to FACE FACTS. You refuse to listen to others who PRESENT FACTS. So really, you have no one to blame but yourselves. This is called a FACT (deal with it): Prime Minister Vajpayee's Statement"We are deeply pained and anguished by the wild, reckless and concocted allegations made by certain vested interests and people against Bhagawan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. We would normally expect that responsible media would ascertain the true facts before printing such calumny - especially when the person is revered globally as an embodiment of love and selfless service to humanity. Since this professional ethic has not been observed by a section of the media, we have elected to go public with this signed statement."(2000)This is called a FACT (deal with it): In a January 23, 2002 letter to former MP, Tony Colman, Blair wrote:"...Foreign and Commonwealth (FCO) and other Government Departments are aware of the many allegations against Sai Baba. Our High Commission in New Delhi and Deputy High Commission in Chennai continue to monitor the situation closely. However, as I explained to you last year, there is little that the Government can do. Those who have complaints against Sai Baba will have to take them to the Indian police. No formal charges have been brought against him."
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Sai Baba EXPOSED... Sanjay :) Once again, thank you for such great efforts you have made to this website, keeping us informed. I am astounded at how much energy and information you have under your command. I especially thank you for exposing Joe-screwy Jerry, more and more. It's good to know that others also know exactly who and what Joe Moreno is... all around the world. I read and read and read, as well as all the links. Whee! Thank you, once again. The work you did on him was excellent. Sometimes I think you are like me in that when he doesn't show up for "work" here, we poke a little fun at him... just for fun. Funny how you can't take the truth out of the Plan. These demon devotees think they are so clearly unknown, unseen for all their dirty mean deeds. I think I'll gather up all the incorrect things he posted under my name and sue him for liabel too. And for any others that also want his whereabouts, I talked to a female police officer in New Mexico, and she gave me his address. He lives at 2540 S. ESPINE ST. APT 2 L Las Cruces, New Mexico U.S.A. 88001-5651... in case anyone anywhere wants to report him. Or if you like waking him up several times in the night, please call him at 1-505-525-1772. I thought maybe we could all surprise him with a visit from the Las Cruces police. I hear they don't like him either. They say he's drunk half the time, and rarely goes out during the day because he's so UUUGGGLY. He can feel that others are laughing at him. Some say he has only a sofabed he drowns his red-eyed sorrows on. We see that most of his furniture is moved out already of his dinky-stinky, wrong-side-of-town, rat infested garbage dump he lives in. I bet he hasnt swept his floor but two or three times a year.
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So in conclusion, dark and surly Joe, we on this website all want to offer you our condolences for your lack of funds. We know you're bitterly disappointed that you have so little money that you are unable to visit your rapidly dying devil father in India for his birthday celebration. Too bad. I know you were hoping to get your hands on a couple of those youngsters, fresh meat, that is visiting Sai... and not you. You were always such a lonely little homo, your deceased mother just said. And also this. Don't forget to eat some peas or carrots once in awhile. Eating so much of your favorite food, potato chips, only makes you lazy and fatter. And the greasy smell of too much rancid oil doesn't get washed off frequently enough from that puffy, blubbery looking toad-like body. I know you don't have much hair, but at least brush your scalp a time or two. It's too greasy and it shines like the moon. And try using something other than bacon grease for your infrequently brushed teeth. Take a bath at least every three days, because the pubic stench is way too pungid. I know you think you're not deserving of so much hammering hate, but you were such a bastard to me and all of my friends, when I lived on earth. Why didn't you ever help me around the house? You always said, Mom, I'm way too tired, then you sat down. Well, so was I. Well, I know you always felt I did nothing but nag you, but now you know why. My oh my, what's a mother to do? Maybe these people can talk some sense into you, like GET A JOB, and stop living off the welfare system. You're not too fat to work now are you? There's a hamburger joint just up the road called McDonald's. They're probably hiring. At least try and do something with your life. You know how it is, 'son' idle hands are the devil's playthings." Mom.
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Origin Of Akhanda-Bhajan "Embodiment of the Pure Atman! Last November (of 1975), on the 23rd, people from all parts of the world had assembled here to celebrate the Golden Jubilee, and the office-bearers of the (Sai) Centres were here for the Second World Conference and other functions that took place. Later, they expressed their desire that they should be allotted a date before the close of the Jubilee Year, when they in their own places could celebrate the happy occasion. In order to overcome their disappointment, it was decided that in all (Sai) Centres all over the world, Bhajan (Namasamkirtan) be held for twenty-four hours, beginning at 6:30 p.m. on Saturday (yesterday, 13 November 1976), and ending at 6:30 p.m. today (14 November J 976). Therefore, in 42 countries around the globe more than 7000 centres have enthusiastically taken up this pleasant assignment. This has been named an Akhanda Bhajan, that is to say, Bhajan done without a break" Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. X. p. 66 "Srimati Sundaramma is one of the old devotees who has known Sri Sathya Sai Baba since he was a boy of sixteen. Her father, Seshagiri Rao, came to Sri Sathya Sai Baba after her. Sundaramma continued the weekly Bhajan singing with great dedication and without interruption for an entire year. Her father, Seshagiri Rao, thought that they should celebrate the completion of the year of Bhajan-singing in a suitable style. Each member of the family thought of different ways to celebrate the anniversary in a befitting manner, but Seshagiri Rao's idea that was adopted: Akhanda Bhajan (unbroken Bhajans) for the one whole day and one whole night. The decision having been taken, they got down to planning the performance at their house - which songs to sing, what Prasadam to distribute and pooling of resources to obtain the ingredients of Prasadam. This was particularly tricky as, in those days. there was rationing of rice and the system had to be worked out fairly in cash and in kind. After making all the preliminary arrangements, father and daughter went to Puttaparthi to announce their attention to Sri Sathya Sai Baba. He was very happy to hear their plans and responded startlingly, "I have come only for this reason, for the sake of my devotees. Go ahead with the Akhanda Bhajans. I will go there and be with you throughout the singing." Sundaramma explained that, up to that moment, they had planned only a very simple celebration. But, if Sri Sathya Sai Baba was himself going to attend, then, she felt that she ought to make more elaborate arrangements. Then Sri Sathya Sai Baba said he would take charge of all the arrangements. He asked her to book a place in town and to have the Akhanda Bhajans sung there so that all those who wanted to attend could do so more conveniently. He also advised her to ask other devotees to assist in the event. Sundaramma was in a quandary at this unexpected turn of events. To cope with an occasion, such as it was turning out to be, was a gigantic task in those days when even transportation was very difficult. She calculated that about a hundred regular devotees might turn up for the first Akhanda Bhajan and so she had Prasadam prepared for that number. However, hundreds of devotees turned up on that day. They had learned of the event by word of mouth and in dreams and visions of Sri Sathya Sai Baba. Sundaramma became anxious about how she would provide enough Prasadam to all. Puja to Shirdi Sai Baba's and Sri Sathya Sai Baba's images was performed under a gaily bedecked floral canopy. Sri Sathya Sai Baba materialized a silver figurine of Sri Shirdi Sai Baba to keep beside a large bust of Sri Shirdi Sai Baba, especially made for the occasion. Then, with circular movements of hand, he produced 108 golden flowers for the Puja. After Archana (offering with Mantras) of rare flowers, Seshagiri Rao performed Paadapuja (worship of the feet) to Sri Sathya Sai Baba who lighted the Akhanda Jyoti (ever-lasting flame) at the Bhajan meeting. Sundaramma then requested Sri Sathya Sai Baba to come into the kitchen and pronounce Akshya (limitless) blessings over the food. He looked at the cooked food and loudly said "Akshaya" thrice. Then he sprinkled water on the food and left. Sundaramma remembers with awe how food prepared for a hundred people fed several thousands people easily, even generously. The pot containing the Prasadam simply never became empty. At last, before leaving the kitchen, Sundaramma entreated Sri Sathya Sai Baba to let the pot be empty and then it was easily emptied. 'Such was the nature of Swami's blessing that it ensured an unending stream of food,' said Sundaramma. The event was truly remarkable. The first Akhanda Jyoti, organized by Seshagiri -Rao, has led the lighting of thousands of other Akhanda Jyotis on Akhanda Bhajan day in Sai Samithis Bhajan centres throughout the world." Extracted from Shakuntala Balu's book "Living Divinity", First edition, 1983, pp.175-177 Glimpses Of The Akhanda Bhajan At Prasanthi Nilayam (1994) "The Akhanda Bhajan had special significance this year when Bhagavan lighted the Akhanda Jyoti on November 12, 1994, in the renovated Prasanthi Mandir. The Mandir wore a new attractive look with seven artistically designed and exquisitely executed domes replacing the old ones, besides the huge imposing new Mandap in front for accommodating the vast concourse of devotees waiting for Darshan. The Mandap with twenty massive ornamental pillars, covered with shining polished granite slabs and bearing a lotus-shaped bowl to carry concealed lighting, transformed the former open Darshan grounds into a spacious hall with polished black and white marble slabs for the flooring. Two wings of the hall appeared like two gigantic pianos, with a series of elephant images decorating the frieze. At night the Mandir appeared like a Fairy Land with multi-coloured illuminations setting the Mandir in bold relief and enhancing the beauty of the sacred edifice." "The Mandap was filled with thousands of eager devotees from all over the world while the Mandir was occupied by students from three campuses of the Sai Institute. On the Akhanda Bhajan day (Saturday, 12th November), Bhagavan came to the Mandap before the Bhajans started and gave Darshan to all sections of the crowd. The Akhanda Bhajan commenced at 6:00 p.m. after Bhagavan lighted the Akhanda Jyoti (lamp) in the Mandir. After the first song on Ganesha sung by the men students, the Bhajan song, "Akhanda Jyoti Jalao" was sung by the women students. The Bhajans continued nonstop for twenty-four hours with men and women leading by turns." "Bhagavan sat through the Bhajan for nearly two hourc on Saturday. On Sunday morning, Bhagavan went round the devotees, giving Darshan, and stayed for the Bhajans for two hours. The Bhajan came to a close at 6.00 p.m. on Sunday, with the distribution of Prasadam to all the devotees with the-blessings of Bhagavan. Prasadam consisted of tamarind rice and sweet rice. Bhagavan supervised the distribution of Prasadam after taking Aarati and stayed on till all were served." Editor. SS, 12/94, p. 318 Important Questions Concerning Bhajan QUESTION: Years of Bhajan and Meditation have not borne fruit in me; I am where I was before. Why? Sri Sathya Sai Baba: "How can fire be struck from a wet match-stick? Soaked in worldly desires and caught in material entanglements, how can the light of wisdom shine in your head? How can you generate the fire of Jnana" SSS, Vol. X. p. 140 QUESTION: The Lord told Narada that he could find Him installed wherever His glory is sung by His devotees. Does it mean that He is installed in the thousands of places where Bhajan is sung? Sri Sathya Sai Baba: "No. The pre-condition is 'sung by devotees'. The devotees sing to please God, to acclaim His Majesty. They do not crave for exhibition, appreciation or fame, nor have they any envy or pride in their hearts. Tansen was a celebrated singer attached to the court of Emperor Akbar. He was so talented that when he sang the Raga Megahmala, clouds gathered thick in the sky. When he sang Varuna, rain fell. When he sang Nagaswara. serpents flocked before him. One day while Akbar was engaged in prayer, he heard a Haridasa, a wandering mendicant, singing a song which touched his heart immensely. Akbar called Tansen to his presence and asked him why he could not touch his heart so deeply. 'You have all gifts and are the most talented singer, yet Haridasa moved me as never before. Why?' Tansen said, 'Maharaj, while I sing, I look upon your face to discover whether you are pleased or not. The Dasa sings always looking at the Face of God before him, and he is happy only when God is pleased.' Bhajan must be sung from the heart and should not just emanate from the lips." SSS. Vol. X, pp. 140 & 141 ---------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- From the book - Festivals at Prasanthi Nilayam - An Exposition by Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba - Compiled and Edited by Suresh C Bhatnagar ---------------------------------------------- Significance of the Akhanda Bhajan can also be found here
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General Guidelines For Conducting Bhajans
"In the Sadhana (spiritual practice) of Nama Smarana (remembering God's Name), which I prescribe, two other complementary processes are included along the recollection of the Name and the fixation of the mind on the Name: (i) there must be purity of feeling, (ii) and dwelling on the meaning of the Name. That will ensure success." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. VI. 177.
"When the Puja (worship) with 108 or 1008 names is progressing, do not be satisfied when the sound falls on the ear. Try to grasp the meaning too, so that you can ruminate over the glory which each name denotes." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. VII, p. 287
"Many people do Japa (reciting God's name) and join Bhajans, but they are not aware of the meaning and value of the words they utter mechanically." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. IX, p. 167
"Take the Name of the Lord and repeat it always. Do Bhajans with faith and enthusiasm. Let the whole city shake with devotion you put into the Name." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. 1, p. 132
"When you sing Bhajan songs, dwell also on the meaning of the songs and the message of each Name and Form of God. Do not waste time purposelessly; let every moment be a Bhajan." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. V, p. 331
"Discipline has to be observed in speech, sport and every kind of relationship. For instance, during Bhajans, all those singing in chorus have to maintain the same tune. Discordant singing will jar the ears. Singing Bhajans in unison is a form of discipline." Sai Baba. SS. 7/96. p. 174
"When the Name is repeated without concentration and without reverence, it cannot cleanse the mind. Now the Name is on the tongue, the word is in the mind and the owner of the Name is in the heart." Sai Baba, SSS. VI, p. 165
"Bhajans must be sung from the heart and just should not emanate from the lips." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. X. p. 140
"Bhajan must be a felt experience. Let your heart pant for God, then Raaga (tune) and Taala (rhythm) will automatically be pleasant and correct. Sincerity will blot out all errors in Raaga and Taala." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. VIII. p. 57
"The Bhajans, this time, were done in a ritualistic fashion. Greater attention was paid to Raaga, Taala, Laya and Shruti (the melody, the beat, the rhythm and the tone). All these are conventional qualities (Vyaavaahaarika). To elevate the Bhajans to a spiritual level what are required are true feeling and the ecstasy of devotion. The (devotional) songs should flow not from the lips but from the heart. When the songs come out of the heart they will be blissful for the ears.'^ Sai Baba. SS, 4/97, p. 94
"Let melody and harmony surge up from your hearts and let all take delight in the love that you express through that (devotional) song." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X. p. 75
"The words of a song can be expressed in a prosaic manner which has no appeal to the listener. But when they are sung melodiously, they tug at the heartstrings. (As in the song "Rama! Nannu Kaapaadu"- "Rama!" save me. Swami sang the song to demonstrate its appeal.) Such sweetness is contained in the song when it is rendered melodiously." Sai Baba, SS, 4/92, p. 70
"Conduct your Bhajans with a pure unsullied heart, oblivious to all worldly desires. When you chant the Lord's Name with a pure heart, you will experience the Divine." Sai Baba, SS. 4/97. p. 94
Crores (millions of rupees) are being spent to purify the Ganges water. Of what use is this exercise if the Ganges continues to be polluted by the discharge of drainage water into the river? First prevent the flow of filthy effluents into the Ganges. In the same manner, the evil thoughts arising in the mind should be diverted and it should be filled with pure godly thoughts by reciting the Divine Name. Everyone participating in Bhajans should sing the Name of the Lord and thereby serve to purify the atmosphere and promote the well-being of the nation." Sai Baba. SS. 4/92. p. 71
"Bhajans have to be sung to please the Lord, not your fans. With each Bhajan sung, the mind must be rendered purer, freer from passion, and stronger in faith." Sai Baba. SS. 12/74. p. 297 & SSS. Vol. IX, p. 162
"You should sing whole-heartedly with the desire to please God. God makes no distinction between a proficient musician and a beggar in the street. It is the devotion and sincerity that matters. Merge your soul in the Bhajans you sing. Spiritualize your Bhajan-singing. Then you will experience real bliss." "Once Emperor Akbar asked his court musician how he would account for the fact that a wayside beggar's music moved him more profoundly than the music of the state musician? The latter replied that while the beggar sang from his heart to please God, his music constrained by the desire to please the Emperor." Sai Baba. SS, 4/97, p. 96
"The hands should be lifted in prayer and the words should come out full-throated. It is unfortunate that even those who are gifted with good voices do not sing aloud in Bhajans." Sai Baba. SS. 8/96. p. 206
"Bhajans have to be sung and offered to God in an attitude of utter humility. They are not to be taken as exercises in an exhibition of talent and competitions for mastery of musical skill." Sai Baba. SS, 12/74, p. 297 & SSS, Vol. IX. p. 162
"When a man falls into a well, of what use is it if he controls his voice and his emotions and whispers quietly, 'I have fallen into this well, I have fallen into this well. I am in a great danger. Please save me.' No one will be able to hear or save him. He must shout full-throated, with all anguish he is experiencing and with extreme desire to be saved, "I HAVE FALLEN INTO THE WELL! SAVE ME! SAVE ME SOMEONE!" Then only can he hope to get succour. Similarly, when you are caught in the coils of this world, when you have fallen into this deep well of worldly misery, shout with all your might, with all your heart that God may save you. There is no use of muttering faintly and half-heartedly. 'Save me; I am floundering in this Samsar.' When the prayer comes shrieking through the heart, help is assured." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X. p. 68
"Some persons attending Bhajans do not move their lips at all. They may say that they are singing the songs mentally within themselves. This is not proper. If you have a devotional feeling, it should be expressed by the tongue joining in the Bhajan. Only then it can be called "Sankirtana"- singing in unison with others. You must sing the Names aloud, full-throated, as far as the voice can reach. Only then the Divine will respond in full measure and shower His grace. No one will go to the rescue of a drowning man if his cries are feeble. Only when he cries aloud at the top of his voice, the cries will be heard and people will rush to save him." Sai Baba, SS. 4/92. p. 70
"Attitudes of difference and distinction should not enter the hearts of devotees so far this sacred Sadhana is concerned. It would be far better for all parties if such self-important and conceited folk stay away from Bhajans rather than pollute the sacred atmosphere by spirit of rivalry and factionalism." Sai Baba, SS, 12/74. p. 297 & SSS, Vol. IX, p. 162
"Bhajans where you quarrel and compete, and revel in putting down others and raising yourselves, might give you satisfaction. But, let me announce here, they do not please Me at all." Sai Baba, SS. 12/74. p. 297 & SSS. Vol. IX. p. 163
"In singing Bhajans, there should be no spirit of competition and no caviling of others. The entire concentration should be on the Name and Form of God." Sai Baba. SS, 3/96, p. 61
"Remember! All are the sons and daughters of Sai Maataa (Mother). How can I tolerate when the sons and daughters quarrel among themselves into rival groups? Unless you sing Bhajans for your own joy, you cannot bring joy to others." Sai Baba, SS. 12/74. p. 297 & SSS. Vol. DC. p. 163
"During Bhajans the women are engaged in mutual recrimination. They quarrel over seats. Can't they experience Bhagavan wherever they are?" Sai Baba, SS. 7/96, p. 184.
"The office-bearers in the units of our (Sai) Organization should be ever vigilant, that this poison does not creep into the working of the units, either in Bhajans, or in the activities ofMahila Vibhag (women wing),-or Seva Dal (human service wine of volunteers)." Sai Baba, SS, 12/74. p. 297 & SSS. Vol. IX. p. 163
"I am pleased only when love is the keynote, when the feeling of unity prevails, when the melody comes from a cleansed God-loving heart." Sai Baba. SS, 12/74. p. 297 & SSS. Vol. IX. p. 163
"I do not need Bhajans which like gramophone records reproduce songs and Naamaavalis, without any feeling or yearning while singing. Hours of shouting do not count, a moment of concentrated prayer from the heart is enough, to melt and move God." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. IV, p. 149
"Some people affirm that the Bhajans used at the Prasanthi Nilayam alone should be sung. But God is omnipresent. He is the in-dweller in every heart. All Names are His. So you can call on Him by any Name that gives you joy." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. VI, p. 238
"This (Sai) Organization believes that the Atma (soul) in each is the Atma in all, and the God that each worships is the God that all worship. You cannot insist that in the Bhajans, only songs on Sathya Sai should be sung. Fanaticism of that kind I very much dislike and condemn. For. all Names and all Forms denote Me only. You betray your ignorance of My Truth when you stick to anyone of My Names and avoid the rest." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. VIII, p. 71
"Do not care for what others feel about your Dhyana or Bhajan. Do not seek the approval, appreciation, admiration of others, or refrain from Dhyana because others dislike it or ridicule it. Be self-reliant, self-confident, see through your own eyes, hear through your own ears." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. X. p. 73
"I have been observing how the Bhajans are sung. When the girls sing, the boys do not follow in chorus. When the boys sing, the girls do not respond. When both are singing the Divine Name, why should not they sing in unison? What is the reason for this narrow separatism? This should be given up." Sai Baba. SS. 4/97. p. 96
"When you sing Bhajans, take care that words you utter do not convey negative meanings. Here is an example. Our boys (students) sing many Hindi Bhajans, in which they often use the word 'Thu'. They sing 'Thu Rama', 'Thu Krishna', 'Thu Sai' which does not convey the respectful way of addressing the Lord. The Bhajans you sing must convey sacred meanings. You should not use any disrespectful words in Bhajans." Sai Baba. SS, 4/2001. p. 114
"There should not be any wrong word in Bhajans. If you sing in this way, every word that you utter would have sanctity." Sai Baba, SS, 4/2001, p. 115
"When the Bhajans end, you should go out in silence. When you get back to your apartments, you may discuss your private affairs. But as a rule, observe restraint in speech everywhere. It helps to conserve energy. Excessive talk affects the nerves. You are liable to forget what you have heard." Sai Baba, SS, 8/96, p. 211
"At the end of a Bhajan, we say 'Shanti' three times. This prayer is for peace of the body, the mind and the spirit. Without this trine peace, man cannot have real peace." Sai Baba, SS, 11/97, p. 289
Sing Bhajans With Full Concentration - An Episode
"Today there is no steadiness of mind in man. Some people think of their footwear when they sit for Bhajans inside. Once Ramakrishna Paramahansa was giving a discourse in a temple. Rani Rasamani, the owner of the temple, was sitting in the front row. All were listening to Ramakrishna's discourse with rapt attention. All of a sudden, Ramakrishna got up, went to Rani Rasamani and slapped on her cheek. Everyone was surprised. They thought that Ramakrishna had become mad. Ramakrishna told the public, '0 people, you may think it is a great mistake on my part to have slapped her. What for you come? You are here to listen to my teachings. Whether you practise or not, at least you should listen to what is being said. If you do not like to listen to the discourse, you better stay back at home. This Rani Rasamani is thinking of her legal disputes. Why should she come all the way to think of the court affairs?' She accepted her mistake and promised not to repeat it. In modern age, many people attend spiritual discourses and get impressed by them. But they do not put them into practice." Sai Baba, SS. 2/99. p. 48
Music With Bhajans
"Bhaava (feeling), Raaga (melody) and Taala (rhythm) are the essentials for proper singing. Even the name of Bharat (for India) signifies th? combination of these three elements. (Bh-Ra-Ta). In every action in daily life, the combination of these three elements should be observed. This rule can be applied even to one's studies. "Bhaava", in relation to study of a subject, means understanding the subject thoroughly. "Raaga" implies cultivating love for the subject and "Taala" means expressing one's knowledge coherently and clearly." Sai Baba. SS, 4/892, p. 69
"Its essential purpose is to earn the love of God. Combining one's voice, tune, feeling and the rhythm to appropriate beat of the song, the devotee should immerse himself in the singing. Harmonizing the feeling with devotion and love, the sacred words of song -should be an outpouring of love towards Gcd. That alone is devotional s'rging. When the song is rendered without understanding the meanings of the words and without any inner feeling or genuine love for God, it is mechanical performance." Sai Baba. SS, 4/92. p. 69
"Bhajans do not become effective through drums, cymbals, violins and other accessories. They cover up essential things- feelings, emotions, yearning, sincerity and faith." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. IV. p. 148
"Musical instruments used during Bhajans should not drown the voice of the singer and those who follow. If there is mor»than one instrument used, maintain a balance among instruments along with singing." Sai Baba
"While singing Bhajans, you should utter the Names (of God) from the depth of the heart, not concentrating on Raaga (tune) and Taala (rhythm)." Sai Baba, SS, 6/94, p. 150
"Realise that what matters when they (singers) sing Bhajans is not the tune or the conduct of Bhajans, but the genuineness of the feeling with which they sing Bhajans. When their hearts are pure and full of deep devotion, the Bhajans will be full of feeling and will appeal to the hearts of the listeners. What ensures from the heart is 'positive', while what comes from the mind is often negative" Sai Baba. SS, 4/98. p. 92
Attributes To Be Attained By Bhajan Singers
"When you do Bhajans and sing the Name of God, you should contemplate on underlying truth. The Naamaavali, 'Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare; Hare Krishna. Hare Krishna, Krishana Krishna Hare Hare' has sixteen words. Each of the sixteen signifies a virtue, which has to be cultivated along with that Bhajan. (i) He must be a Bhakta (full of devotion), (ii) a Tapo-yukta (prepared to enjoy sufferings), (iii) a Samsara-mukta (detached from worldly attractions), (iv) a Padaasakta (eager to serve the Lord), (v) a Vihitha (correct conduct), (vi) a Daana-sahita (charitable), (vii) a Yashomahita (with unsullied reputation), (vni) a Kalmasha-rahita (unblemished), (ix) a Poorna (fully content), (x) a Guna-Gana (endowed with all virtues), (xi) an Utteerna (equipped with all virtues), (xii) a Vidya-vikeerna (equipped with all fruits of learning), (xiii) a Jnana-visteerna (ripe in wisdom), (xiv) a Swaantha (self-controlled), (xv) a Sadguna-Kranta (adorned with social traits), (xv) a Vinaya Vishranta (moved by humility), and finally (xvi) a Pada-swantha (fully dedicated to God)." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. 1, pp. 164 & 165
Location And Time For Conducting Bhajan Sessions
"The Bhajan Mahdalis (groups), Satsahgs (spiritual meetings) and Bhakta Mandalis (devotional groups), are now established, must spread the message of Naama-smarana (remembering God's name), Bhajan and Naama-sam-kirtana at all times and in all places." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. VI, p. 42
"Have Bhajans on as many days as you can, in your village or area. Have them in places where all can come and join, not in the homes of some people, for in homes not all may be welcome." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. VI, pp. 237
"Bhajans are best held on Thursday evenings and Sunday evenings. But there is no unbreakable rule. for it is not the day of the week that counts. It is the heart that must be ready and eager to imbibe the joy and share it." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. VI. p. 238"Group Bhajans must be arranged to suit the convenience of the locality and the people." Sai Baba. SSS, Vol. VI. p. 238
Expenses For Holding Bhajans
"Have Bhajans as simple as you can, without any competitive pomp and show. Reduce expenses to the minimum, for God cares for the inner yearnings, and not the outer trappings. Even this small unavoidable expenditure must be silently shared spontaneously by a few members of the committee, and not collected by means of a (donation) plate or Hundi pot. or a subscription or a donation list. The participants must be bound by love, affection, loyalty, one Name and Form." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. VI. p. 237
The Magic Of Bhajans
"Remembering the Name is the panacea. When the Name is chanted as a song set to music, it delights the heart immensely. Many pundits recite the Names as verse (shalokas). They do no experience the intense yearning expressed in the stanzas. Some actors are able to pronounce the words loud and clear, but without any depth of feeling. But when the Names are sung melodiously they appeal to the hearts of the singers and the listeners. Even non-believers and agnostics nod their hearts in appreciation when they listen to devotional music. The words of a song can be expressed in a prosaic manner, which has no appeal to the listener. But when they are sung melodiously, they tug at the heartstrings. Everyone, whether he is well-versed in music or not, should listen attentively to the singer and try to repeat the words of the song with feelings." Sai Baba, SS. 4/92, p. 70
"Do Bhajans and have the Name of the Lord on your lips. Do not waste even a single moment. By chanting the name of Rama, Hanuman, the monkey, became all-powenul, the embodiment of peace and the exemplar of all noble qualities. Sita was full of praise for him." Sai Baba, SS, 12/87. p. 324
"Kamadhenu, the wish-fulfilling heavenly cow, can be drawn and tied to a post by means of a rope. God too. can be drawn towards you by the rope (God's Name), and tied to the post (the tongue). Then His Name will be dancing upon the tongue forever, conferring the sv/eetness of His Majesty. The Name (of God) has to be sung for your own delight, to quench your own thirst, to appease your own hunger. No one eats to appease another's hunger, nor takes drugs to alleviate another's illness. So do not care for what others feel about your Dhyana or Bhajan." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. X, p. 73
Bhajan Should Be A Continuous Process
''Do not think that it is enough if you just sing Bhajans when the people from the (Sai) Seva Samiti come and join you. Sing them in your minds, silently and sincerely, when you are at work, with your friends or even alone by yourself. Just as a torch in your hand shows you the way if you are walking at night in the dark, the Name of God on your tongue will guide you through the night of ignorance in your journey of life." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X, p. 154
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Meaning Of Bhajan
"The word "Bhajan" has been derived from the Sanskrit root "Bhaj" which means to render service. Bhajan singing is indeed a mode of providing service for the audience to purify their head and heart." Sai Baba
Meaning Of Kirtana
"Kirtana is the word used for the recital or singing of the Name and the Glory of God." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. VI, p. 217
"Kirtana is singing aloud the Glory of God." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X, p. 67
"Keertanam (Kirtanam) is an individual affair. It is singing by an individual for the fulfillment of his prayers." Sai Bubu. SS, 4/92, p. 67
Meaning Of Sankirtana/Sankeertanam
"Samyak-K-eertanam Sankeertanam (Congregational singing of Bhajans) is the best form of Bhajans. Sankeertanam aims at the well-being of the whole universe. This is also described as "'Saamaajika Bhajans (community singing). This method of singing Bhajans was first initiated by Guru Nanak. the founder ot'Sikhism. 'Sankeertana' aims at demonstrating unity in diversity. When all the participants combine to sing in unison with one voice, it is described as "Sankeertana." Sai Baba, SS. 4/92, pp. 67 & 68
"San-kirtana means reciting or singing well, or aloud with joy in ecstasy.." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. VI. p. 217
"Combining one's voice, tune, feeling and rhythm to the appropriate beat of the song, the devotee should immerse himself in singing. Harmonizing the feeling with devotion and love, the sacred words of the song should be an outpouring of love towards God. That alone is devotional singing (Sankirtana)." Sai Baba. SS, 4/92, p. 69
"Sankirtana is the process of singing that originates in the heart, nor from the tongue. It is the expression of the joyous thrill that wells up from the heart when the Glory of God is remembered. It is the spontaneous manifestation of the inner ecstasy. No attention is paid to blame or praise that others may give. It does not seek the admiration or the appreciation of the listeners. It is sung for one's own joy, one's own satisfaction, and one's own delight. Kirtana of this supreme type alone deserves the name Sankirtana" Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. X, p. 67
Purpose
"What is the essence of Sankirtana? Its essential purpose is to earn the love of God." Sai Baba, SS. 4/92. p. 69
Different Forms Of San-Kirtana
The name of the Lord has been glorified in different ways all over the world. Jayadeva was one who enjoyed always the sports (Leelas) of the Divine." Sal Baba. SS. 4/98. p. 68
"Hanuman was proficient in music. There was none that could excel him in singing. Even Narada Tumbura could not prevail against him." Sai Baba. SS.. 4/98. p. 69
"We can distinguish four different forms of Naama-sankirtana: (a)Bhaava-naama-San-kirtana. (b) Guna-Naama-Sankirtana, (c) Leela-Naama-San-kirtana, and (d) sheer Naama-Sankirtana." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. VI. p. 219
a. Bhaava-Naama-Sam-Kirtana:
"Bhaava Sankeertana is illustrated by Radha alone who expresses her different feelings towards God and identifies herself with the Divine in every mood of devotion. She expressed her devotion in five forms of Shanta (Serenity), Sakhya (friendliness, Vaatsalya (maternal love), Anuraag (affection), Madhura (sweetness). Radha and Mira were the exponents of' Bhaava-Sankeertana." Sai Baba, SS, 4/92, p. 68
"Bhaava-Naama San-kirtana is the name given to recitals where (God's) Name is sung with one emotion, or mental attitude (Bhaava) toward the Lord.(l) It can be Madhura-Bhaava (sweet emotion) as Radha was overpowered only by that sweetness at all times and places. Her adoration of God is the supreme example of Madhura-Bhaava. (2) Then we have Vaatsalya-bhaava-sankirtana. Yashoda, the foster mother of Krishna, can be taken as the ideal for this type of Bhaava (emotion). Though she had a series of experiences of Krishna being Divine, she preferred to save him as mother and adore him as her son. (3) Then there is Saakhya-Bhaava- Sankirtana (comrade feeling), as found in Arjuna who believed in Krishna as his intimate friend and brother-in-law (for he married Krishna's sister), and confided in him as a comrade. That too is an attitude that will attach you to divinity and sublimate the tower impulses. (4) Daasya-Bhaava- (servant-master attitude) Sankirtana is another type. Serve the Lord as His faithful unquestioning servant. This is the path of Hanumana in the Ramayana. (5) The last attitude is Sat-Bhaava-(unruffled, unconcerned) Naama-Sam-kirtana, praising the Lord, whatever may happen, undeviated by ups and downs, bearing all vagaries of fortune as His play. In the Mahabharata, you will find Bhishma saturated with this attitude. He adored Krishna even when Krishna was advancing towards him to kill him." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. VI. p. 219
"Bhava means 'attitude' (of mind). So, Bhava-Sankirtan means the adoration, in song, of God pictured and contacted under various relationships. Some may prefer to adore Him as the giver of equanimity (Santam), others as a friend, guide and guardian (Sakhya). still others as the child one loves and tends (Vatsalya) and yet others as the Lover whom one loves with sovereign love (Madhura)." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X, p. 68
b. Leela-Naama-Sam-Kirtana:
"Another method of Naama-Sam-kirtana is to remind oneself of the various exploits and sports, the various acts of grace and compassion, which the Lord has manifested in the world, while reciting His Name. This is called Leela-Naama-Sam-Kirtana. Chaitanya and Thyagraj realised the Lord through this path." Stii Bubu, SSS. Vol. VI, p. 219
"This is (also) exemplified by the 'Gita Govindam' of Jayadeva. Sai Babti. SS, 4/92, p. 68
"Leela means 'sport', therefore Leela-San-kirtana is the adoration, in song, of the various expressions of these attributes as evidenced by the accounts of sages and seers of all faiths." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X. p. 68
c. Guna-Naama-San-Kirtana:
''Many recollect more of the majesty, the glory, the might, the mystery, the magnificence, the munificence, the love with which God has clothed Himself, while reciting His Name. This attitude is spoken of as Guna (attributes, characteristics) Nama-San-kirtana. Most of the saints gradually honoured in many lands are of this category." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. VI, p. 219
"Guna means 'attributes' (of God) So, Guna-Naama-Sankirtana is the adoration, in song, of manifold attributes of God - omnipresence, omniscience, compassion, majesty, etc." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. X, p. 68
"Guana-Sankeertana applies to the kind of Bhajan in which the devotee recites the auspicious qualities of the Divine, experiences oneness with the Divine, and acquires the godly qualities. Thyagaraja had recourse to this type of singing. In one of his keertanas, he exclaimed: " Oh Lord! You are beyond all words. Is it possible for even Brahma or other gods to extol your glorious exploits? I am waiting for your grace. Hearken to my entreaties. You restored life to the preceptor's son whom the Lord of Death had taken. away. You conquered the God of Love. You liberated from prison Vasudeva and Devaki. You protected Draupadi when appealed in despair. You were the guardian ofPandavas. You relieved Kuchela of his poverty. You saved 16,000 damsels from subjection." In this manner, Thyagaraja recounted the great qualities of God in his songs." Sai Baba, SS. 2/92. p. 68
d. Naama-Sam-Kirtana:
"Another category is denoted by seekers who attach value to the syllables and sound of the Name (of God) irrespective of the meaning thereof. When the Name is pronounced, they say, it draws the aspirant toward God and His grace, whatever may be the Bhaava (emotion), whether the Leela (sports) or Guna (attributes) is associated with the Sam-Kirtana or not. The Name (of God) has a strength, a power, a capacity to redeem, cure and save, alone and unaided, they aver." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. VI. p. 219
"Nama means the 'Name of God'. So, Nama-Sankirtan means the adoration of God, calling upon Him by various Names, each describing His glory. His achievements, His relationship with the individual. The Names are many. or even countless. It is so in all languages. We have many groups of thousand and eight Names, which can be used for God, as the Vedas declare, has a 'thousand heads', a thousand eyes. and a thousand feet. Devotees can adore Him and derive bliss through that adoration, filling each Name with the meaning and significance it carries." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. X. pp. 68 & 69
"Chaitanya was the exponent of this form of Kirtana. "All Names are yours.. There is nothing in this cosmos which does not bear the imprint of your Name or Form,' Chaitanya revelled in singing the Names of the Lord as signifying all that was beautiful and glorious in the universe." Sai Baba. SS, 4/98, p. 68
Congretational Bhajan Singing
Founder Of Community Bhajan Singing
This method of singing Bhajans was first initiated by Guru Nanak, the founder of Sikhism." Sai Baba, SS. 4/92, p. 67
Importance
"Community singing sets up vibrations which will cleanse the atmosphere." Sai Baba, SS, 2/98. p. 33
"When all the devotees participate in the Bhajan, the vibrations that are produced will generate joy and harmony." Sai Baba. SS. 11/86. p. 280
"Bhajans that arc sung permeate the entire ether in the form of sound waves and fill the entire atmosphere; thereby the whole environment gets purified. By breathing in this purified atmosphere, our hearts get purified." Sai Baba
"Bhajan has been part of our (Indian) culture, part of the Sanatana Dharma tradition. But it has survived, however, in an attenuated form, in the villages only. It has disappeared from the towns, where people have more 'exciting' ways of spending time and recuperating their spirits. But this programme of congregational Bhajan by all, must be fostered, developed and transplanted in the towns later. I am glad to note that the young men of this (Seegehalli) village and of the adjacent villages, especially those who are attending the Sri Sai College, are evincing keen interest in these Bhajans. That is indeed a promising sign fraught with great potential for the future of this country. They are cleansing their own minds and helping to cleanse the atmosphere of these villages." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. X, p. 81 (Seegehalli, 4-12-76)
Rules For Conducting Community Bhajans
"When the chanting of the (Divine) Name is done in community singing, it should be done in a form in which the entire group can participate easily..
The tune, the rhythm, etc. should be such that all can follow the Bhajan. If the lead singer takes up a song that is not familiar to others, the response from the group will be poor. There will be no enthusiasm or genuine participation. Their minds will be distracted." Sai Baba. SS. 11/86. p.. 280
"Reciting the Lord's name is a process of 'give and take'. Singing the Lord's name should become an exercise in mutual sharing of joy and holiness.. Sai Baba, SS. 11/86. p. 281
"Community Bhajans should not be treated as a pastime. When thousands of persons join in singing Bhajans, they should be fully absorbed in the devotional process and the ecstasy of that experience." Sai Baba. SS. 11/86. p. 281
"The singing should be vibrant arid soulful and not mechanical or drawling and uninspiring. It should combine feeling (Bhavava), melody (Raaga) and rhythm (Taala) Sai Baba, SS. 11/86, p. 281
"Songs should glorify the Name rather than describe the attributes. When attributes are praised, some may develop doubts." Sai Baba. SS, 11/86, p. 281
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AKHANDA BHAJAN
An Exposition by Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
Importance Of Bhajans
"As a matter of fact, Bhajan is a constant exercise. It has to be as essential as breathing." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. VI. p. 238
"Bhajans always give joy and peace."
Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. 1, p. 190
"Wherever My devotees sing, there I install myself. So sing from the heart, conscious of the layers of meaning each word has. You can have God installed in your heart." Sai Baba
"The Name (of God) undoubtedly brings in the grace of God. Meerabai, the queen of Rajasthan, gave up her status, riches, fortune and family, and dedicated herself to the adoration of the Lord, "Giridhara Gopala". Her husband brought a chalice of poison and she was ordered to drink it. She uttered the Name of Krishna while she drank it. It was transformed into nectar by the grace the Name invoked." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. VI. p. 217
"Cast away ignorance; you are free, liberated from all bonds that very moment. All spiritual disciplines have this liberation as their goal. Nama-sankirtana (repetition of God's Names), too, helps you get rid of this basic ignorance." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X, p. 70
"Measures for the elimination of egoism: the chief among these is the Bhajan." Sai Baba. SSS, Vol. VI. p. 237
"Let your whole life be a Bhajan. Believe that God is everywhere at all times, and derive strength, comfort and joy by singing His Glory in His presence." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. X. p. 75
"Bhajan is a good disciplinary process by which these two (Kama and Krodha) can be kept away. Kama is the lust for physical pleasure, power, fame, wealth and scholarship. Krodha is anger, which is the result of foiled lust." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. X. p. 79
"Bhajan (devotional singing) is more important than Bhojan (food). Prayer is more important than pining for meals. Birds, beasts, insects and worms, all feed and keep fit. Man is the crown of creation, the monarch and master of all beings in creation. If he, too, seeks only food and shelter as inferior species do, it is deplorable indeed. From the moment of waking until the moment when he lays himself down again to sleep, man is engaged in endless errands, unceasing turmoil, never-ending tangles and boundless anxiety. And what does he gain therefrom? More confusion, more mental agitation." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X, p. 79
"You will relish the Bhajan as you make it a daily function, like eating and sleeping. You eat twice a day for the upkeep of the body. Should you not do Bhajan at least once for the upkeep of the mind? Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. X, p. 81
"Those who sing Bhajans get what can be called 'double promotion', for they derive joy and distribute joy. Life today is filled with sorrow. It is beset with fear and despair. The only time you can forget these thoughts and strengthen yourself to meet the hard times is when you contact the source of all strength. God. You cannot get that peace while you bend under the burden of daily life." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X. p. 81
"Whenever an idea of hurting others or taking someone's belonging or spreading falsehood about others enters your mind, turn to God for help. Ask Him to give you strength. Repeat the Name of God or hum a Bhajan. You will find that all your bad thoughts will flee, leaving you free from evil." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X, p. 154
"The hands should be lifted in prayer and words should come out full-throated. It is unfortunate that even those who are gifted with good voices do not sing aloud in Bhajans. Man has been endowed with a tongue to sing the praise of God. If he fails to do so, he remains indebted to God." Sai Baba, SS. 8/96. p. 206
"The recitation of the Names of the Lord will help to purify the atmosphere as a result of the sacred sound waves getting absorbed in the atmosphere. The power of the sound waves is evident from the way radio Waves are transmitted and received over long distances. The atmosphere that has been polluted by impure sound waves can be purified by chanting the Divine Name. Likewise, sacred thoughts, pure speech and pure actions will purify other polluted elements. There is no better purifying agent than this." Sai Baba. SS. 4/92. p. 71
Meaning Of Akhanda Bhajan
"Akhanda means uninterrupted, without any gap. "Akhanda-Bhajan" means that it should not be just a twenty-four hour, or even a seven-day affair. It must go on from birth to death. Bhajan (devotional song) has to start in childhood and continue onward. It must be constant companion of man, his solace and strength. Do not postpone it until old age, for it is the essential food for the mind." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. 1, 125
"This day (4 December r976), you have resolved to imbibe Divine Bliss by reciting the glory of God in chorus and with music, continuously for twenty-four hours. You call it Akhanda Bhajan, even though it will end after that period. Still the idea is good and programme will yield good results.." Sai Baba. SSS, Vol. X. p. 79
"This has been named an Akhanda Bhajan, that is to say, Bhajan done without a break. But was it really an Akhanda Bhajan? It is begun at 6:30 on the evening of one day, and is closed at 6:30 on the evening of the next day. Can we call it 'unbroken Bhajan'? What is a period of 24 hours when we consider the vastness of the universe and the eternity of time? It is just a wink, a minute part of the life of man on earth. By engaging yourselves in the recitation of the Name of God for one single day, you claim to have done Bhajan 'without a break'. Akhanda Bhajan must be as continuous as breathing itself if it is to deserve its name." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. X. p. 67
Meaning Of Global Akhanda Bhajan
"The Akhanda Bhajan that is observed by Sai devotees all over the world for full twenty-four hours in November is an annual event of global significance. Starting from 6:00 p.m. on Saturday, the Akhanda Bhajan concludes at 6:00 p.m. on Sunday. The Bhajans (spiritual songs) start with the lighting of the Akhanda Jyoti (the sacred lamp) that is kept continuously burning for 24 hours." V.K.N, SS. 12/87, p. 341
Special Significance Of Global Akhanda Bhajan
"This programme of Akhanda-Bhajan continuously done for 24 hours all round the world in all lands, has therefore spread the message of love through the Names of the Embodiment of Universal Love. It has saturated the atmosphere with thoughts of God and peace and joy that He showers. The Bhajans that you have done here (Prasanthi Nilayam) has affected not only this particular area and its environment, but it will transmute the entire atmosphere. Continue this attitude of devotion and humanity, of service and tolerance, the atmosphere will not be polluted by hatred." Sai Babu, SSS.. Vol. X, p. 75
"What is significant about the global Akhanda Bhajan is that while apparently the duration of the Bhajan is identical, the time sequence varies from country to country. For instance, when Bhagavan lit the Akhanda Jyoti in the Prasanthi Mandir at precisely 6:00 p.m. on November 14, 1987, the Akhanda Bhajans had been going on for many hours in countries east of India from Japan to Singapore. This means that as the earth revolves, lamps are lit at different Sai centres according to the local time, and by the time the westernmost centre in Vancouver lights the Akhanda Jyoti, (Sai) centres in the east would have completed the Akhanda Bhajan. Before the Bhajans are completed all round the world, there would be a girdle of Akhanda Jyotis lit around the globe in Sai centres as far as Fiji in the '"east" and Hawaii in the "west" V.K.N. SS. 12/87, p. 341
Purpose Of The Global Akhanda Bhajan
'Today we are having Akhanda Bhajans (non-stop twenty-four hour global Bhajans by Sai devotees all over the world. This is being done not for the sake of one individual, one nation, or one community. It is for the welfare of humanity as a whole. The Bhajans that are sung permeate the ether in the form of sound waves and fill the entire atmosphere, thereby, the whole environment gets purified." Sai Baba, SS, 11/86. p. 280
"Today the atmosphere is polluted by unholy and vicious sounds. This results in the growth of evil thoughts and feelings, which lead to evil deeds.. If the atmosphere has to be'purified. it has to be filled with pure and sacred sounds." Sai Baba, SS, 11/86, p. 281
"Singing with intense yearning for God and enjoying the experience of adoring Him. helps to purify the atmosphere. Man is forced to breathe the air polluted by sounds that denote violence, hatred, cruelty and wickedness.. Therefore, he is fast losing the high attainments that are in store for him. The vibrations of the Namasankirtans can cleanse the atmosphere and render it pure, calm and ennobling. It is with this high purpose in view that this programme of global Sankirtan was designed." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X, p. 67
"No man can escape the influence of the pollution of the air he breathes. The sounds that we produce, with good intent or bad, spread throughout the air around us. This is our daily experience. The sounds produced by radio stations pass through the atmosphere and reach our homes when we tune in. The vibrations travel vast distances and affect the nature of those who inhale them. The atmosphere also affects the food man consumes. The pollution in the atmosphere is imbibed by the plants. The plants supply grain, the grain is the basis of the meal and the meal shapes the character and behaviour of the person who consumes it. When the environment is clean and free from evil vibrations, the food. too, is pure. and the person develops a tendency to be loving and simple. It is to ensure such an atmosphere, this Sadhana (of Akhanda Bhajan) was initiated all over the world.." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X, pp. 67 & 68
"The air, even of these villages, is polluted by vulgar film songs, by demeaning and disgusting conversation. The 24-hour long Bhajan will purify it by divine vibrations, and those who breathe. The pure air will be healthier and more upright in behaviour." Sai Baba. SSS, Vol. X, p. 81
"Bhajans have a place of pride in Bhagavan Baba's scheme of spiritual Sadhana. Devotional singing in groups serves not only to concentrate the minds of the devotees on the Divine but promotes also a sense of spiritual unity and harmony among devotees." V.K.N.. SS, 12/87. p. 341
"The prayer to the Lord to light the lamp of wisdom and love in the heart of every devotee, when it goes up from millions of devotees all over the world, must have an ennobling and unifying effect which cannot be produced by any other means." V.K.N. SS, 12/87, p. 341
"The Akhanda Bhajan should make devotees feel their unity with the Divine and, at the emotional level, and fill them with love for entire mankind. Bhagavan Baba's supreme role in His present advent is to unify humanity by promoting recognition of the inherent divinity present in everyone, transcending all divisions of creed, caste, language, nationality and sex. The Akhanda Bhajan is like a beacon and trumpet-call to humanity to jettison ths pretty divisions of the past and rise to the heights of its divine destiny." V.K.N.. SS, 12/87, p. 341
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AKHANDA BHAJAN NOV. 11-12thThis year's Akhanda Bhajan will be on the weekend of November 11-12. This is a continous 24 hour devotional singing session. This event is held all over the world in all countries. We encourage all of you to take part in your center's devotional singing program. The bhajan commences with the lighting of the sacred lamp - the Akhanda Jyothi - that is kept burning for 24 hours. Thus the sacred lamp will be lit in each country during the 24 hour period based on local time and by the time a Sai centre at Honolulu lights the Akhanda Jyothi, centres in the East would have completed their Akhanda Bhajan. Before the Bhajans are completed the world would be a girdle of Akhanda Jyothis lit round the globe in Sai Units. The Akhanda Jyothi not only helps to concentrate the minds of devotees but promotes also a sense of spiritual unity and harmony among the devotees. The prayers will be for Peace in the world. This is being done not for the sake of one individual, one nation, or one community. It is for the welfare of humanity as a whole. The Bhajans that are sung permeate the ether in the form of sound waves and fill the entire atmosphere, thereby, the whole environment gets purified." - Baba Baba's miracle at Akhanda bhajan Nine families started an Akhanda Bhajan Mandali in 1944, consisting mostly of our relations. We had bhajans every thursday evening regularly. In 1946 , we requested swami to attend our first annual Akhanda bhajan, which He did. Swami stayed with us for full 24 hours of the bhajans. We had originally planned the Bhajans for about 150 people with our limited means. As Bhagavan attended the function, over 500 people attended, including several distinguished devotees who came with swami. We had a problemas to how to give prasadam to all of them, as we had not anticipated such a situation. We represented our problem to Swami. Baba with his merciful love, came to the kitchen and blessed the food. after the functionwas over we served Pongal to over 1000 people till the evening. it never got finished.. This miracleis one of the earliest experiences in our lives, which is still green in our memory. We did this annual Akhanda Bhajan for twenty five years continuously. Once or twice Baba could not attend the function, but we took into account only the years when He attended. Bhajans becomes global In the year 1974, we celebrated the 25th year of our Akhanda Bhajan in the golden Jubilee Hall, Lalbagh. By then our Akhanda bhajan had become very popular and ever increasing numbers of people attended the function. Nearly 10.000 people attended the 1974 celebrations. Swami, in his concluding speech, declared that in future instead of our family conducting this akhanda bhajan, the entire world should conduct the bhajan on the same day . He materialised a Navarathamala and gave it to me as a benedictory blessing to our family. From the book Sanathana Sarathi, page 128 from the chapter " five decades at the lotus Feet" from Dr.R.S.Padmanabhan. Sri Sathya Sai Books and Publications Trust Bhagavan's 70 th birthday. In Sai love, Titia de Groot-Boelens, Holland
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If it could be proved that God did exist, we wouldn't need faith, would we? Faith is a gift from God so that one may believe without having seen.
Sai Baba ain't God.
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/m1165"Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?"Jhn 10:19 There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings. Jhn 10:20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him? Jhn 10:21 Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind? Jhn 10:22 ¶ And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter. Jhn 10:23 And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. Jhn 10:24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. Jhn 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. Jhn 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. Jhn 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: Jhn 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand. Jhn 10:29 My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand. Jhn 10:30 I and [my] Father are one. Jhn 10:31 ¶ Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jhn 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? Jhn 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jhn 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? Jhn 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Jhn 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? Jhn 10:37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. Jhn 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father [is] in me, and I in him. Jhn 10:39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,
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CO 2000, aka Joe 108: The Jews did not threaten to stone "Jesus" for blasphemy. I dont care what lies you were told. It was only the ROMANS. Try checking the AKASHIC RECORDS before spewing out more CRAP that ain't true. They're the only records I know that actually contain every bit of factual knowledge ever created, anywhere. People like you give both Jews and Christians a bad name... always trying to start a war between two spiritual groups. Bad business. Won't work.
Got another one for you, bozo bean. If you believe in the Bible quote for quote, do you actually believe the Holy Mother accepted a SEED from someone other than her Twin Flame husband? Who was that Father? Sai Baba? Duh! But I see you dont believe Sai Baba is God either. Now do I have that correct? So who or what produced the seed? Do you remember me telling you that Sai Baba was King Herod during the time this woman called Mary was on earth? Read the Ancient Text called the Akash, please, before you talk more trash, ok please? Next question. And do try and think before you answer so rudely. Where did this seed come from? Did she get it from someone other than her husband? Do you think Mother Mary is a whore? Isn't that an act of "adultery" committed on the psychic plane? Some say fornicating with the father is blessed. What say you, ho? Other texts say Mother never birthed a son at all. Some say she produced a little baby girl. Some say she birthed both a boy and a girl. Think that's possible, weird Joe? The Jews say their "Messiah" is yet to come. Mohammed calls Jesus, Isa, and says he will return to defeat the "DECEIVER". What do you think? No wonder folks like Sanjay, even me, think you are a freak. Jesus too. :)
Now don't be shy about making an apology for '"accidentally" posting one of Carolyn's messages under my name, silly one. You get NO respect from anyone until that is done. I see it took you forever, but at last you've admitted my little friend, Carolyn, actually has her very own title--Kickbabaasass, a personality, a mind, even a great paying job. You have quite a way to go in admitting the rest of your errors, i.e., deceptions, you intentionally tried to fake us all out with. Now I understand why neither your mom or Mother Mary like you at all either, weird one! How are your two younger brothers?
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Barbara aka Carolyn aka Amen, I am NOT Joe. Get it through your thick head.
If you can't get a simple thing like my identity right I doubt very seriously I would take your word for anything else.
Secondly, just as there are some ignorant Indians against Sai Baba, there were Jews AND Romans against Jesus. WHY would the Romans accuse Jesus of being the devil Barbara? If you could read, you would see that Jhn 10:19 clearly said there was a division among the Jews. Jesus also said, "Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the Scribes."
Besides that, the POINT of my Jesus quotes was to show that Jesus was ALSO heckled for saying he was God. "I and my Father are one."
And for the record Barbara I do not think you read the Akashic records. You cannot even act like an adult Barbara much less read the Akashic records. And NO, I don't think Mother Mary is a whore but you most certainly are about as close as one gets to being one with your filthy mind and mouth. Whoring your lies around like you think everyone is as dumb as you and cannot see you for the wacko you CLEARLY are.
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Ok CO2000 Joe, have it your way. No one believes YOU anyway, lest of all me. By your response, once more you demonstrate your incomplete lack of ability to read "outside the body" at all, especially the Akash. It was never my intention to "educate" you, but rather to mock you, mocker of all good people. You wouldn't know Jesus if he sat on you, looked into your eyes and said, "Boo!" That's why everyone sane hates you.
And lest I forget. In answer to your other "question", if you can call it that--you know, the nasty one in post 1101 that said, "I took that info Directly off of the VERY reputable site, Alibris book store." That's when you were still accusing me of marrying piggery J. Walton. I'm sure you can remember your dirt, can't you?
Are you ready for my really good answer? How is the hell do you think I was able to burn so many oddles and oddles of those really fantastic books called, For the Land of the Lost, that I already had reassured you I didn't "channel". Ya see, fool, it takes someone smarter than you to figure out God's intentional plan. The addition of that good alias name, Barbara J. Dent-Walton, gave me the exclusive right to Seven Eagles Publishing, as well as those boxes and boxes of lying books. Without the inclusion of that good name, how in the hell do you think Carolyn and I would have been so thoroughly entertained by tearing them all to shreds, then burning them out under the stars, while giving thanks for our saved lives. Did that answer your question, mean fool? I quite agree with Sanjay who spoke so truthfully about you one more time. You try to "jack-off", while dreaming up some story about someone else's sex life... because you don't have one. Sorry about your IMPOTENCY, pervert.
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Barbara, you are a nutcase. Get some help.
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So Gerald Moreno now fully approves of Lisa De Witt's spam postings on this forum? Interesting..
Earlier Moreno was caught up in yet another malicious lie. After I found out that Connie Shaw's website had been hacked, he immediately claimed that this hacking was done by former Sai devotees, who referred to as "vicious worms". "What a fukin liar!" as Simon Brace would say! :-) (Simon Brace is Moreno's very good friend, who is an admitted alcoholic and drug abuser, confessing to growing marijuana and mushrooms in his own home)
Poor guy, so confused. And now he his being cornered on Wikipedia by several editors all disagreeing with his spurious contention of Salon.Com being a reputable source, even threatening to block him. Nice. :-)
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Bhivash, quite an interesting piece of wisdom there. Thanks for that.
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Jesus never claimed that he was one with his Father. Read the section properly and in context. For the record, Sai Baba also says that Jesus never claimed to have any speciality. Mind you, Sai Baba talks a lot of crap when it comes to Jesus Christ. See what I mean?
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Dadlani, you don't know squat about Jesus (other than looking at your sordid jesus porn... /m272) just like you don't know squat about Krishna. Go play with your comic books dumbo.
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/m1171Hey, at least my posts are on topic. And anything is better than listening to you, Barbara and usedbybaba's psychotic hate drivel. The three stooges. Why don't you clowns go drivel on usedbybaba's empty board instead of whining like crybabies that you just can't get your way over here?
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Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is obviously a drunken, stupid and utterly deluded fellow. This is the guy who goes around acting all moral, pious, rational and holier-than-thou but then goes around miracle-mongering, shrieking praises and kissing the feet of his dead gurus (Srila Prabhupada and Srila Gour Govinda Swami) and worshipping doll deities as God incarnate. See some examples of the effeminate, girly dolls that Sanjay squirms and goes all orgasmic about on his Garurasundara Blog: 01 - 02 - 03. What makes this even more ridiculous is that Sanjay Dadlani has been fully exposed for his StreetBitches Blog, his Jesus Sex Fetish, his views on Child And Teen Pornography, his self-admitted Psychological Problems, his Disturbing Views About Women, his self-admitted Drinking Problems, his Satanic Inclinations, his Shocking Confessions, his Long And Established History As A Pathological Liar, his outward Denial Of His Own Hare Krishna Guru - Srila Prabhupada, his public Lie About Meeting Aghori Vimalananda, his Homoeroticism And Gender Confusion, his Inability To Keep A Girlfriend, his Pseudo-Devotee Posturing, his He-Man Inspired God Concept, his Lies About Being A Vegetarian, his weird claim that He Was Dying, his amusing Belief That Semen Can Be Sucked Up From The Testicles, Via The Spine, To The Brain and his Suicidal And Self-Injurious Statements. This is the Anti-Sai Whacko who judges others and acts as if he is sinless.Sanjay, you are a clown, BLACK sheep and paraiah of the Anti-Sai movement. Your only loyal supporter here is a mentally unstable adulterer who believes that Mother Mary cusses through her. lol
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No they are not on topic and you know it. They ar enothing more than spam. This is not a group for spam/announcements of Sai events but for discussion of Sathya Sai Baba. That itslef disqualifies you because you are not here to discuss but only to abuse other people like a barking dog. If you want to spam this group with pro-Sai "announcements" then I will also spam this group with negative material. To paraphrase your pervert pal Moreno, think very carefully before you start this. I don't know squat about Jesus or Krishna? LOL. Maybe that's why people are asking me if they can translate my writings into French, German, Hungarian and Russian, even while I was a Sai devotee? :-) Read the Bible properly, you ignoramus. Or better yet, find a Christian affiliated with a recognised church who will agree with your perverse interpretation of Jesus' words, putting words in his mouth which he never said. Verse 25-29 clearly imply duality between Jesus and his "Father". Verse 30 should be seen in context instead of plucking it out as an example of nonduality, which is typical of perverse Advaitins and their perverse hackjobs of every scripture including the Bible. In Verse 34, Jesus is quoting the Psalms. And what does Psalm 82.6 say? "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.'" Yep, get that? "You are gods" seen in context means that you are all "sons" of the 'Most High', a perfect compatibility with Vedantic philosophy. Ah yes, and it looks like Jesus is also quoting slightly out of context because if you read the whole Psalm, it looks like God is talking to his "angels" or "demigods", so naturally God would refer to them as "gods" and his "sons". Duhhhhhhh. This is a perfect example of the perverse "spiritual" understandings of philosophically and theologically ignorant Sai devotees, something that I have been shouting about for years even as a Sai devotee. They want to take Sai Baba's "knowledge" and convert every philosophy and twist it completely beyond recognition so that it all sounds the same according to their perverse neo-Advaitic outlook. The only problem with this is that Advaita itself is a problematic philosophy that has been much criticised throughout history for being philosophically untenable, and the controversies are still raging today. How fitting that Sai Baba would take up a lame-duck philosophy like Advaita and champion it as the "ultimate truth"; he seems to have a nasty habit of collecting all the lame-duck things in the world and making them part of his own identity. Too bad that his followers are too ignorant and uneducated about proper Vedantic philosophy (and even about their own relgion, shame!) which is why they try to twist Jesus' words to their own nonsensical and idiotic interpretations.
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Gerald, shoo away and fight with csloat. LOL. You're in serious trouble on Wikipedia for taking issue with Salon.Com as a reputable source. Now everybody is pissed off with you and nobody assumes good faith where you are concerned. Boo hoo, your wiki-reputation will soon be in tatters. :-) Look at this blasphemous nitwit who goes around blaspheming Hinduism and deity worship as "dolls" when his own faggot guru has a temple full of the same "dolls", what to speak of the fact that as recently as 2/3 years ago a larger-than-life bronze statue of Sai Baba was installed in the Prashanti Mandir, a donation from an Italian devotee. For shame, Gerald's guru idolises idol-worship, LOL. Gerald, go and kneel before Sai Baba and perform the lingam-worship that he loves so much, Brat Boy. And then cry yourself to sleep afterwards after you nearly go insane twice. You already support/believe in Premananda, who is a convicted rapist and murderer, but you still find some reason to defend him anyway, you child-abuse pervert sympathiser sick pervert. Find out all about Gerald Moreno being oiled by Sathya Sai Baba, his slandering of a variety of former devotees, his own confession to being on the brink of insanity twice, his "convenient" changes from non-devotee to ex-devotee, his flip-flopping on Sai Baba's molesting of little boys, his humiliating defeat on the Guruphiliac blog, his strange fascinations with faecal waste material and anuses, his self-conception as a garden weed covered in animal excrement, his affiliation with ex-porn stars who make sick pornographic scenes of urination and simulated eating of excrement, his disturbing dreams about stalking me at night which unmasks his suppressed homosexuality: Naughty Children: Gerald 'Joe' Moreno. Welcome to the new exposés: Gerald's homosexuality, intellectual dishonesty, copyright violations, clarifying the copyright violations, lying about the Sai Krishna picture controversy, his psychologically disturbing self-conception of being enveloped in blinding darkness, more proof of his effeminate behaviour on Wikipedia, his confessions to almost going insane twice(!), his hypocritical stance on meat-eating, pathological inability to shut up (!), having his lies about homo-eroticism exposed, his confusion about his gender, and so much more! And that's not even counting the sexual abuse, murders, lying about concealing his IP, exposed for faking emails to former devotees, having his "FAQ" blown apart (this guy thinks he is SO important that he has an FAQ!), his sound thrashing from the JuST group, and last but NOT least, the COMPLETE EXPOSURE of his shameless paedophile accusations against a respectable former devotee. Does it end there? Certainly not! There is TONS more that you don't know about this puppet of Sai Baba's that is waiting to be revealed. So don't play these stupid games with me, puppet boy, as I am not even interested in talking to you. You are, right now, the stupidest person in the entire universe. Everyone on Wikipedia certainly thinks so. Wait till they find out how you were called a "f*****g wackjob", and no wonder. And your only loyal supporter here is a mentally unstable schizophrenic who claims to have regular visions/visitations from Jesus Christ and several different angels, what to speak of being able to hear their voices. LOL. And that's when she's not abusing everyone in her line of sight with false accusations and gross abuse. And don't forget your other loyal supporter (Simon Brace), the self-confessed alcoholic who posts and swears like a dock-worker while drunk, what to speak of his sordid confessions to drug-running from his own home. You are a sick pervert with your sick friends and nobody cares for your babble. You are officially a clown being laughed at by the whole of the Internet. So keep babbling. Premananda-rape-worshipper, Sai Baba-rape-worshipper. :-)
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And since Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is SO sensitive to "lies", let me set the record straight about his pathetic and amusing lie that he was the one who discovered my real name and my personal geocities site before anyone else. On Post: /m1042 Sanjay said: "And before Moreno comes back with some asinine remark about how everyone knows his full (real) name, let me be the one to reveal that I was the first person to discover his identity online. Back in the early days when he had the 'vishvarupa' domain, he was still passing himself off as 'Joe' to all of us without divulging his identity. I did some digging around and I found his personal website on Geocities where his full name and details were there, and I passed this info along to everyone else. Get that, Handbag? I discovered your website before anybody else and I found out your real name too. It's no wonder you started using your full name immediately afterwards, lol." The very first public mention to my site occurred on October 2nd 2004 when I wrote my first email to Rober Priddy: See For Yourself. A judgmental nut with the name "Randi Godager" emailed me on the same day (October 2nd 2004) and requested my full name (apparently not caring to read anything I said on my webpage because my full name was there). I told Randi Godager that my full name was "Gerald Joe Moreno" and that my full name was clearly located on the bottom of my webpage: See For Yourself. Therefore, when I first created my webpages, I divulged my full name on the bottom of all the webpages I created. Sanjay is a filthy and pathetic braggart who lied when he said he was the one who "discovered my identity online". He most certainly did not. In 2004 (as well as to this day) I respond to all emails using the name "Joe". My full identity was divulged at the inception of my webpages dealing with the Sai Controversy and Sanjay had nothing to do with it. Secondly, my geocities site does not divulge my "full name and details". So when Sangay boasted that he found my "full name and details" on my geocities site, he is obviously in a drunken and confused haze. As a matter of fact, when I first communicated with C02000 (Lisa), I never told her about my geocities site but she found it the day after we talked. My geocities site has never been hidden and no attempt was ever made to conceal it from anyone. Sanjay's finding my site is no great accomplishment as anyone with remedial google-searching skills can find it. So get your ever-so-inaccurate statements straightened out, Sanajay. If Sanjay wants to be honest, he should come out with his real full name, full address, full phone number and contact details. To date, Sanjay has never divulged this information, yet hypocritically points his pudgy fingers at me and whines and babbles about my identity.
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Sanjay (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED"), you are such a hilarious hypocrite! For your information, I am not the only one "blaspheming" your Hindu Religion. Both Robert Priddy and Barry Pittard gave you a fat lip and a black eye when they said (about the Ramayana, which millions of Hindu's believe in): "Nor can any intelligent person make good or relevant sense of it in the modern world it is just a fantastic, impossible concocted story of the 'Superman' kind with 'monkey-man' Hanuman lifting and flying aloft with a whole mountain (so Rama could pick out a herb from it!) or jumping across the sea to Sri Lanka. Come on, how can one be so backward intellectually? This may be o.k. for ignorant peasants, but the thinking world must regard it as sheer delusion!" (Reference) Did you get that Sanjay? * "...it is just a fantastic, impossible concocted story of the 'Superman' kind..."* "Come on, how can one be so backward intellectually?"* "This may be o.k. for ignorant peasants, but the thinking world must regard it as sheer delusion!"Priddy also thoroughly bashed the Srimad Bhagavatam when he bashed belief in black magic and witches. The Srimad Bhagavatam promotes belief in black magic, witches, goblins, demons, vampires, diseasing demons and the like: See For Yourself. Funny enough, Sanjay defends Priddy and Pittard although they "blaspheme" his amusing religious beliefs. Go play with you dolls and cartoon magazines Sanjay :-)
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"Oh too funny", now Gerald Moreno thinks I am not behing honest about my "real name" and "contact details" when he keeps referencing my name all over his trashpages. LOL, can this lunatic get even loonier? Now he is unsure of his own information? ROFLOL. :-)
The point is that I found his personal website and found out his name during a period when he was passing off as an anonymous "Joe", literally. This is the hypocrite who castigates 'usebybaba' and others as "anonymous faceless hypocrites" when he still hides behind the name "Joe" to this day! (As anyone who is unfortunate enough to receive an email from him will find out.
Fact is, nobody among the Expose knew your full name until I found out. Doesn't matter about "remedial Google search skills", the fact is thet your name got revealed thanks to me. Deal with it, anonymous Premananda-rape freak.
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/m1180"Oh too funny", now Gerald Moreno is shamelessly twisting B Pittard's and R. Priddy's comments completely out of context, when they were meant to name and shame the ridiculous beliefs of G. Venkataraman, former Vice-Chancellor of Sai Baba's educational institutions and current defence watchdog. For the record, I know exactly Priddy's and Pittard's views on the matter and I completely understand. It doesn't make any difference to me because I'm not the one trying to defend Sai Baba of child-raping homosexual paedophilia and murder by referring to "scriptural fables", LOL. Want to talk about hypocrisy? Talk to Sai Baba. He is the one who is constantly talking about Rama, Krishna, devils, angels, dmons, ghosts, spirits, poltergeists and all sorts of paranormal garbage in his discourses, what to speak of the fact that he used to excorcise demons in his youth. LOL. And as for Gerald's blasphemy of Hinduism, he follows/worships/supports/advocates a Hindu guru who believes in all of the things that he doesn't, and even has several buildings full of "dolls". Very recently he had a larger-than-life bronze "doll" of himself installe din the Prashanti Mandir. Go and sit at the feet of Sai Baba, Joe Blow, and worship his lingam you sick child pervert rapist supporter. Pittard and Priddy said nothing compared to the grossly offensive things you have said in the past. Go and sort your sick head out before a wave of Hindu anger is unleashed on you when Sai devotees find out exactly where you stand on Sai Baba of all people. :-) No wonder no one in the media spoke to you, they can recognise a crackpot when they see one. :-)
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Regarding my previous post, this is yet another like of Joeblow Moreno's. He is stupidly claiming that the recent Guardian article is the result of a six-month collaboration with anti-Sais when this is a total and absurd lie. I even blogged about it: Moreno's Guardian Lies And Speculations. Even after it has been proven that my remarks of April referred to my posting just a few days later, the intellectually-dishonest lying swine is still claiming (without any proof whatsoever) that his speculations are correct. So shall it be. Let's see. :-)
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Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba Exposed"), as I said before, you a pathetic liar. You can't even reference your claims with any factual data. You tongue-lash everything and hope to deceive others with your garrulous rantings. I am not deceived by the type of low-class trash that you are. And neither is your Black God, Lord Krishna. Capiche? And when you were on your drunken rants about The Guardian article, YOU were the one who said (and even included the link): "Want to talk about blindness? I warned you fools about this months ago, but you're way too thick to pick up the hints. I even warned you months in advance about the BBC movie, and you were too thick to pick up the hints about that too. Nothing has changed even two years later. :-)" If the Anti-Sai collaboration is a "total and absurd lie", then you are to blame. Not I. After all, you were the one who claimed you "warned" us about The Guardian article and cited, as proof, your yahoo post going back to April 2006. Once again trying to twist the truth I see. You only fooling fools. Sanjay, but you do defend your belief that Lord Krishna literally manifested 16,000 human forms, married 16,000 women and copulated with them generating innumerable offspring? Right? Or is that a "fable" as well? And let us not even go to what appears to be Lord Krishna's wholly inappropriate interactions with married and young women. I bet you have a bunch of spiritual explanations to defend Lord Krishna? Don't you? You are a clown, a black sheep and a pariah even among your Anti-Sai Clan. They bash your beliefs and bashed you in the process as one those "backward intellectually" "ignorant peasants" who believes in "impossible concocted stories of the 'Superman' kind". I couldn't have said it better :-)
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Hey, Sinjay, I hate to tell you this but my posts are much more on topic than your screaming, hissy girly fits you throw so frequently. In case you are dyslexic, the topic is, "Sathya Sai Baba, who is he?" The topic is NOT, "What do three anti-Sai hatemongers think about Sai Baba?" In order for people to know WHO he is they need to know what he teaches. Capische, dumbloon (as you would say)? Listening to you hatemongers drivel your psychotic diatribes in the form of "spam" does absolutely NOTHING to help people understand who Sai Baba is. All it does is show people there are SEVERAL certifiable nutcases like you babbling about Sai Baba. And I think Jesus did, and DOES, QUITE well speaking for himself, he doesn't need a pervert like you (WHO HAS A JESUS PORN SEX FETISH /m272) explaining what he meant. It's disgusting hearing you talk about Jesus after you were drooling over his pictures in a VERY blasphemous way. Have you no SHAME you fool? And I certainly don't need a wannabe Hare Krishna misogynist like you doing my thinking for me. God only knows what you've done to poor Krishna's pictures! I have NO desire to take an abberrant, disgusting creature like you on as my guru so just get over yourself. You couldn't find your brain cells if they were glued to your head. Read it again dumbloon: Jhn 10:30 I and [my] Father are one. Jhn 10:31 ¶ Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jhn 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? Jhn 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jhn 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? Jhn 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Better be careful Sinjay, the Christians might stone you for defiling Jesus' pictures.
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/m1179Sinjay, you are a blatant LIAR. Joe's name has been fully visible on his site since it came online. It never ceases to amaze me the extent you will go to lie to try to make a name for your slimey self. Really, no one can trust anything you say you are such a dysfunctional pathological liar. And look, you are doing such a great job attracting your cousins who are just like you! I should just start calling you Sir Lie-a-lot. It fits you so perfectly.
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Usedbybaba: Have you received any further information on the Bharwani brothers? I have. I am also told by reliable sources that all three of those boys were molested, but only the middle one, Sunil Bharwani, is the one you can trust completely to tell the truth always. It would be good to have a conversation completely alone with him, if it can be arranged. You can depend on him for the truth, I am told. Sometimes people shift their stories when really afraid, other family members are frightened. The reasons are many, but mostly because they are too afraid of talking. Perhaps they tell you one thing and another person something else because Sai Baba devotees may be present during the discussion. If I were you, I would get together with Sanjay Dadlani for further discussion. Try to help each other get to the bottom of it. I will help as well. I trust you and Sanjay both completely, and I know unequivocally that neither of you are liars. You both probably heard different stories for different reasons, but not to deceive the public. You both could even use my personal email to communicate back and forth, if you wish, as I know you dont want egomaniac Joe in the picture. Meaning, I could copy your emails to me and forward them to you, if you dont want to use either of the forums that are currently being used. I love you both. You are my dearest friends. I treasure your friendships. I know you never lie. I will post my personal email once again, for I fear nothing from this one disgusting lone dog called Joe Moreno. He may think he fools others into believing there is more than one person yapping his crap, but I assure you no matter how many times he changes his ugly name, he is still hated for the filth he tries to instill into all of our already confirmed minds. We are joined and he cannot separate us ever. We go way back in time together… fighting against evil wars everywhere. I too have always worked for God always. Once again, my personal email address is: iseejesu@yahoo.com. If Joe tries to use it, I will have him arrested. Believe me, they are already on to him as well. Ive been doing plenty of checking and reporting on him too, and he surely is an evil Sai devotee. One more whopping lie from evil Joe.
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I think it's funny that Barbara is trying to act like some great researcher or something. This garbage has been up since Hari Sampath claims he went to the Supreme Court and nothing has come of it.
You are living in lala land Barbara. If there were as many abuse victims as you people claim, they could easily band together to tell the police and would do so, so how come they haven't? The only rabble rousers are you suspicious weirdos.
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Why didn't van der Sandt post this info on the english-speaking exbaba.com? Uitslag enquete Sai Baba scholen 25 maart 2001 Dear Student, I am the webmaster of a Dutch site, that explores the activities of Sai Baba. You are receiving this email, because I am deeply concerned about the complaints against Baba, I have heard, that Sai Baba, your Avatar, is sexually molesting students and other male devotees, is this true? Would you be honest in telling me whether this really happens or not? I understand that you might have trouble in telling me, because I am aware that these things cannot be written so easily, especially when you are (or were) a student in Prasanthi Nilayam. There are a few questions Id like to ask, maybe you have heard them spread by other people too, and they made you shiver, but please, I am very serious, I dont have a sick mind in asking you this: 1. Did you ever have an Interview with Baba? 2. Did he put his arms around you, just as lovers use to do? 3. Was there some kissing between you and Baba during this Interview? 4. Did Baba ever rub oil into your genitals? 5. Was there any kind of masturbation, and did you let him do this to you? 6. Did you gratify him orally? 7. Did you like what you were doing? 8. Was he gratifying you? 9. Did you like what he was doing, or not? Or did you think: 10. That it was necessary to let him do this to you, claiming that it helped to release your sexual tension, or that it helped to give you some Spiritual Cleaning? 11. Did Baba say not to mention anything to anyone about what had happened? 12. Do you have friends who may have had these experiences? 13. Have you ever heard of anyone, who has had such kind of treatment? I should like to explain my modest point of view on these activities; even the slightest worse, putting his arms around you, or the kissing, is, in my opinion, not right, not even in India, not even done by Sai Baba in India. I can image that, in case of any disease, a doctor should investigate your genitals, but I think, all other cases in which this happens, are not ok. Sexual activities like these, could be normal between lovers, these things may happen, but not when you are consulting Baba, in an so called Interview, where personal problems should be treated with, in your case, some extrasensory perception or some other form of New Age psychotherapy. Let me play things open and explain what I am doing: I have found four Baba schools on www.alumni.net, I am investigating two of them: 1. Sri Sathya Sai Higher Secondary School (21 addresses) 2. Sri Sathya Sai Institute Of Higher Learning (185 addresses, there are a few more, but the letter O on www.alumni.net didnt work ) I have sent and email to all students, I received 22 answers, they were all very positive about Baba and his teachings and the general atmosphere in the Ashram, they are all convinced that there is no such thing as sexual abuse, my email bounced 4 times, that means that I couldnt reach four persons, so 184 students didnt answer. I hope that you will decide to e-mail about it. In that regard I want to let you know that, if necessary, help is being offered to you. I know some people, one of them is a school psychologist, that are willing to write, phone, or e-mail with you to help in painful situations. Dont be afraid, I wont take advantage of your story, your email will be handled very discrete, and besides that, your name wont ever be published, it is just that Im trying to help, and to remind you, that all people in Holland are deeply concerned about your situation in the Ashram of Sai Baba in India. Very, very nice greetings, A Friend XXX ---------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- Hi! I'm sorry but all this information is false and so there is no evidence to give. I don't know why you believe all this crap. You people have no shame. I'm an ex-student and so is my brother and we have gone through nothing rubbish by Swami. Please stop all this non-sense talk. Student ---------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- Hi, All the allegations against Sri Sathya Sai Baba are baseless and are false. I was a student of Sri Sathya Sai Higher Secondary School. I know almost all the students in the School and the Institute as all of us lived in the same hostel. With the interaction I had with Baba and all the students, I can say with confidence that no such thing as sexual molestation happens in Prasanthi Nilayam. All this is pure blasphemy intended to defame Baba, the divine. Thanks, M. --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ It's NOT true. I studied there for 7 years and there is no such thing. I have 2 masters degrees from SSSIHL for which I paid nothing in the form of tuition fee or any other fee. I am a better man it's all because of the teaching of Sai Baba and my teachers at the university. As a webmaster you should be able to understand the kind of facilities we had at our computer science lab and compare them with other universities. We had (in 1997) a DEC Alpha server and 3 Alpha work stations for just 9 students of our class. Each of these servers can support hundreds of users. Most of the professors we have are from IITs(India's premier technical institutes) and a few from well known universities in USA (Cornell etc.) Regards, N. ----------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Dear fellow devotee, This is really absurd. I do not know where you are getting this information from. Rumors always exist. In all cases these were started by some jealous people. I have studied at Prasanthi Nilayam from 1979-1984. There are always some students who spread these rumors to cover up their bad behavior. For example, a student whom I know quite well (he was in my class) was caught smoking in the college. The warden kicked him out of the college for smoking. When he left the college he started some silly rumor. So my honest opinion is just ignore. R. --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Sairam XXX Any way I appreciate that u asked frankly. I am one of the fortunate to know about saibaba what media is writing is just junk.there is nothing wrong happening in ashram. See few people when they do not get what they want they can go to any extent. why go so far take a couple who loved for years got married when they get divorce they say he/she is not good but till other day she/he was everything. just the media is creating hype which is junk. Swami (saibaba) takes care of everyone so well even my parents would have not taken care of me that well. If at all u are true to your profession go head and publish what I am telling see in this world people know only to speak bad about others they do not want good. when Jesus was on earth people crucified him but today there are billions of followers let us not make the same mistake. This mail is not structured what came to my mind I wrote it. Feel free if you want to know more. with regards and love G. --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Dear friend, I was a student of Prasanthi Nilayam and I came out from there with an education not only in my field of specialization but also as a much better human being than I was before. I value what I obtained there and that is enough for me. I do not think I would be making an overstatement if I state these are the feelings echoing from the heart of every student who has come out of there. Please be kind enough and refrain from sending me any more e-mails of this sort. Kindly also remove me from your mailing list. A student ---------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- Dear Mr. XXX I am glad you have sent me this mail.This indicates that you are seriously interested in knowing about Swami and not frivolous in believing hearsay's/rumors. I have been in Prasanthi Nilayam for 7 years and know for sure that there were no such cases of molestations. In fact,we felt more comfortable at Puttaparthi than any where else for the warm feeling of love and togetherness which only true family/friends can provide. Regards V. ----------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Please, This is not new to me. I have heard these stupid and dirty things before. The people who spread these things are mentally sick. May Baba shower his grace on them so that they can get rid of the sick mentality. I have stayed in the ashram for three years. I had the chance to witness several miracles of Baba. He has cured many people. And rests assure that you are also having a very sick mentality. You are doing a great harm to yourself by sending this email around to each and every student on the list. Talking such things and spreading these words around is a big sin. As Baba says "No one can get rid of his or her Karma". You should stop sending emails immediately. There is no truth in such stories. Some sick person says this and another sick person like you trusts this and thus spreads this disease around. If you have time and energy please utilize this in spreading good thins around. Email stories which praise the almighty. Certainly their are people around who speak like this about your religion. Wise ignore all this. Don't do all this. I am telling you this for your own benefit. Sai Ram S. --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Dear sir. Thank you for writing to us and clarifying things rather than keeping doubts within you. I am a person who has known Swami since I was in my first grade that is past at least 19 years. I have studied in his Institute for about 7 years and in the time that I have spent there I can only say that such messages are but rumors and could be the act of people who are more concerned about the spirituality of others than their own. Believe me, to us, Swami(as we lovingly call him) is more like a mother father brother sister teacher friend all put together and there is no one, no one, I tell you, in this world who can reciprocate your love in such a way. We have heard of lots of Gods and saints come by and gone but Sai Baba is a living example. I am not a fanatic. I am not insisting people to pray to him or follow him but just think a person who has 1. build institutions throughout the country (with three main universities at Bangalore and Andhra Pradesh) offering FREE education 2. build two BIG Super Specialty hospitals at Puttaparthi and Bangalore 3. done a major Water Project providing clean drinking water to lakes of people 4. whose guidance has made highly qualified people like Doctors engineers to offer their services free 5. who has made people think about their duty towards society and made people in the Sri Sathya Sai Seva organization one of the biggest Non Government Organizations to be performing yeoman service to people through out the world. All this and many more and the reason behind this is only one single person: Sai Baba. Do you think such feats can be done by people who do not have control over themselves ? To convince others first one must convince oneself and believe me Sai Baba's conviction is like a mountain. Rumors came and went by for even Jesus but his glory still remains. If you need to swim, you need to first get into the water. In spirituality you first experience and then develop faith. Only in science you first observe for evidence and make the laws. You need not believe in Sai Baba's divinity but can at least get inspired to help someone out of your earning daily? So friend please do not have such doubts. I am seeing some more of my friends to write to you so that you can rest at peace. Thank you May God bless you Love K. ----------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Hi, Good morning! As I don't have enough time to answer all your questions, let me tell you this: "You ARE completely mistaken to get such negative ideas about the Ashram and more over about Sai Baba. I consider that the Ashram is the best place on the Earth and I did not face any situation or event which could even get me a remote doubt about the sanctity of the place and people there. I have read your mail and your logic makes no sense to me. I am writing about your logic that went on like "I have sent 90 emails, it is just possible for me to send ten emails a day from www.alumni.net, there are still 116 addresses to go, until now I received 8 answers from students, they were all very positive about Baba and his teachings and the general atmosphere in the Ashram, they are all convinced that there is no such thing as sexual abuse, so 82 students didn't answer, let us say that 60 persons are not interested - this is just a loose estimate -, so that leaves us to 22 individuals, that hesitate to respond because of an other reason, and yes, I have to be honest, my email bounced 4 times, so that leaves me to 18 persons that should have another reason for not responding my email." First of all, all the students coming out of the SSSIHL are very well placed all over the busy world. Just because someone does not respond to your query, it gives no proof/disproof to any of your suppositions. For example, if I send some mail about some stupid stuff to all the presidents and/or prime ministers of all the countries, and do a survey like you are doing now, based on their not responding I can prove or disprove anything and everything in this world. My point is that you must first know the basics of conducting a survey or poll. No logic in this great world accepts the "NO RESPONSE" as response "NO". There is lot of difference between these two. I think you and your organization will be better off if you take some time to think about what I wrote. I am not interested in hurting anyone. I don't need to prove/disprove anything to anyone. I am not doing that either. I care for you as a fellow being on this beautiful creation of GOD. Be happy and don't waste your precious time. If you still want to spend time in this poll, do it in the right manner. I request you that you please do not send me an email regarding any of your future polls like this, because I may not respond in which case you may get a chance to mis-interpret my "No response". Thanks for patient reading. Have a great day A. --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Dear sir or who ever u are, I appreciate ur attempt to explore the activities of Bhagawan Sri Satya Sai baba. But May I know with what capacity are u doing this, did someone personally complain to u. I have the student of the ashram for a very longtime and know the place and people very well. I have acquired my knowledge and meaning for life only in the ashram. For me there is nobody more than Bhagawan and praying to him is the least I can do everyday to remember him. Prasanthi Nilayam is abode of peace both for students and devotees. I think since you are getting such spiral misleading ideas it is better you visit the place and get some peace of mind. Only Bhagawan can help u in attaining peace of mind. Dear sir, I have had lots of interviews with Baba and many a times a long chat but never had anything of such which u have mentioned happened to me. My sincere suggestion is before u start doing this exploration u better visit the place and have blessings of Baghawan and you might feel that the entire exercise you are doing is a futile one. I pray to Bhagawan to help you in taking right path in this short period of what you called life. Sai ram ---------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- Dear Sir Sai Baba is god ...... All that has been projected, are all false allegations, do not consider them, only place in the world which is pure, serene, is Prasanthi Nilayam ...... greetings Best Regards S. --------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- Dear friend, I was a student at Sathya Sai Institute at Prasanthi Nilayam and have had interviews with Baba and have friends who were very close to baba.To me Sai Baba is god incarnate on earth and I have not felt or heard from any real sources the allegations that are being wired over the net as well as the allegations raised in your email. Even I was disturbed deeply with the allegations on the net and did my own enquiry.I even contacted some of the students whose name had appeared in the net. Nothing of this has ever happened according to my enquiry.Some of the stories are circulated falsely under the name of some students who were close to Baba and these students have no clue of the news. I can give you names if you need.Some of the news circulated in the net is totally false and I know it because I was there at the time period mentioned and no such thing had ever happened. Do not be carried away by these wild allegations. Sai Baba is god incarnate on earth and I have had personnel first hand experience of his Godhead. If u have any more questions feel free to ask. Love and SaiRams M. --------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Hi XXX By way of introduction , let me say I am K. and a student of mathematics. This intro is to help that I have a very curious mind and a very logical and scientific thought process. Just to put things in a different perspective, I would like to quote Benjamin Disraeli who said, there are 3 kinds of lies " LIES , DAMNED LIES and STATISTICS" So , I would suggest that your thought that your rationale of following the number of people who have not responded to your mail , is not conclusive as proof in itself that ur statements are true. Do you have any qualitative proof on this topic? Secondly , in this fast moving world , god knows how many people have dismissed your mail as yet another junk mail from a jobless , faceless guy that they do not know. God knows how many people even read it in the first place. Sorry to say that your theory does not hold water. Waiting for your rebuttal Sincerely K. --------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Dear Mr. XXX First of all, I should commend you as an individual for having come out in the open with your doubts. That, I think, is an indicator of your willingness to form an opinion based on your findings rather than on hearsay. Coming to your doubts, I would like to make one thing clear - Sai Baba, or Swami as we call him, is an Avatar. By definition, an Avatar is a highly-evolved being and will not, repeat, will not indulge in such a profane thing as sexual molestation. Why, any average human being will not indulge in such acts. What to speak of an Avatar! I speak this with the knowledge that I have gained from close interaction with Swami. I can understand your doubts - they are caused by a number of reports that have started coming now, on the Net, and elsewhere. I consider this to be a test of your faith in Him. In case you have any doubts regarding Baba's character, then, as a webmaster you have the added responsibility of finding out the truth for yourself. If you approach Swami with an open mind, you will find that such rumors are totally baseless because He is the very embodiment of Divinity. I would recommend a visit to Puttaparthi to see things with your own eyes. I would be more than willing to help you in this regard. The joy He gives to people living thousands of miles away - even in countries like the embattled Croatia - is just incredible. If He is not Divinity, I ask you, who or what is? Regards, M. --------------------------------------------------------- --------------- What is ur intent? I have been a swami's student for the last 7 years. Do tell me ur understanding of how a "God man" should be. tell me S. --------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Hello Mr. Sick XXX My words can not change you or help you get out of the ugly and junk pot you are trying to stick your mind in. I strongly recommend that you visit Baba once and I am sure Swami will put your sick mind at ease. Without proper information, you have no right to stand on an intelligent pedestal and attempt to pose such stupid & outrightly junk questions at us. Baba doesn't need my vocal response to defend Him : He knows our hearts and we know His. You do not even deserve an answer or a response from any of us to your despicable emails. But though I dont believe I can alter your filthy mind, I hope you stop sending these emails to my brothers and sisters. If you have the slightest guts and have even the slightest intelligence, go to Puttaparthi and give urself a week to get a true experience of the Divinity. Help yourself, Even if Baba forgives you, I can not ! B. --------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- Thanks for ur concern, there's nothing the way u r thinking is happening at Puttaparthi, so please dont bother anymore and next time before you begin your investigation from your office or your drawing room at your residence u better go to the place and start looking at what you want to find, you would get all your answers rather than trying to make your own stories or presumptions.That would help you a lot, I believe, and for Gods sake please stop bothering us about it and mind your own business. your well wisher. --------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Hello Mr. XXX I am the recipient of the mail you have sent from Alumni.Net. There is something I would like to know from you. If there is no problem can you tell me the name of the website you are webmaster of. Have you ever visited India and in particular Prasanthi Nilayam. Have you had the opportunity of observing how Baba conducts himself. If so I would like to ask you do you believe in what you have written in this letter. and if you are so concerned and want to do good for others my advise would be that you make a visit and see for yourself. Even earlier there was mention of these kind of things by some people I think in some of the magazines in India itself but I feel all this is done to gain some publicity. In my opinion you should go and see the place for yourself and then go about asking questions. To answer your questions: 1. Yes I did have an opportunity to have an interview with Baba, but nothing like what you have mentioned has been observed or experienced by me. 2. Yes he does put his arm around you but only to pat you on the back or shoulder not for any other reason. Hope this clarifies your doubts. J. --------------------------------------------------------- ------------- Dear Friend. Though I was a student I never had any interviews with Baba which eliminates all the questions you asked. But it certainly brought many facts of life to think about. But, I will not hesitate to say that my life is better now than it would have been. Happy questing. Another friend. --------------------------------------------------------- ------------- Hello XXX, I never heard of such things happening! And, I just ignore what ever propaganda that's going on against Swami. I have enjoyed my stay as a student in Prasanthi Nilayam. I cherish those few years of my life very much. Even as old student I make regular visits to Prasanthi Nilayam to have His darshan. Many people told me that they were against Baba and they don't believe Him, and some try to get into argument with me (which is never invited by me)... My only answer to all those people is, "I did not ask you to believe Him.. I appreciate if you let me live in my beliefs." I try to improve myself by practicing (in what ever little way I can) Swami's teachings. If you are not a believer/follower/devotee (what ever it is..) of Swami, please do not send any thing against Him to me. I get hurt. If you are a devotee of Swami, please never bother the crab that's going on against Him. With Best Regards, S. --------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Dear Friend, Sairam! Well, to really know Sai Baba one has to see , feel and experience Him personally. One cannot... never know Who He really is....He is Beyond our Mind... So I suggest that You should make a visit to India and see.. meet Him. I think then your doubts and queries will be answered. I think nobody Will ever be able to clear your doubt Except Sai Baba..... Thank you. Sincerely yours, V.
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/m1187"Meaning, I could copy your emails to me and forward them to you, if you dont want to use either of the forums that are currently being used. I love you both. You are my dearest friends." _____________ i'm confused.
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/m1189hmm ,that's interesting.I've never seen this.
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/m1191That's because Reinier van der Sandt only posted it on the Dutch site where he knew few people spoke english and would not even understand its import. And doesn't Reinier sound like he is just a little TOO interested in the details?
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37 Date: Wednesday 12:22 17.05.2006 AJ Dear Mr. Moreno, thank you and God bless for the wonderful work you are doing with the website. I was a student in Swami's school for many years, and I wanted to corroborate something that an earlier guestbook author named Srinivas wrote: I saw the list of approx. 155 ex-students a few months ago, and was shocked to see that I recognized a great majority of those names, as they are contemporaries from my time at Swami's school, and I still keep in close touch with many of them. Needless to say, everyone I spoke with was shocked to hear about the website, and had no idea of its existence. They all vehemently denied any involvement with the site or its authors, and were enraged beyond words. In the end, they decided to follow Swami's example and not react. Our guess is that ex-baba found those names on some database of student names and without bothering about the truth, just listed them on the site. This is yet another example of how the Anti-Sai hate group engages in outright deception with a complete and utter disregard for truth, and is so willing to engage in libel and slander and harm people's lives. All we can do is pray that Swami have mercy on their souls, because they're in for many, many lifetimes of suffering. Let us not waste our righteous anger on them, but show them compassion and forgiveness.
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/m1184 Leave it to Liar Moreno to twist and deceive everybody just as he has been doing for so long on Wikipedia. To drill it into his drunken head, let me state again that my comments of April referred to my blog posting just a few days later. Hence my comment, "details to follow", where I specifically told the details of the upcoming trip. The fact that I "warned" you clowns about this months ago is simply a rhetorical remark. Furthermore, nobody passed this information to Paul Lewis, he found it all by himself just like I did back in April. Duh. If Moreno wants to act like ahot-shot researcher, I personally challenge him to get a statement from Paul Lewis that he has been "in contact" with former devotees for six months. I personally guarantee that he will fail. :-) So leave it him to lie, twist, cheat and deceive just as he usually does. His name is mud all over the Internet, and all over Wikipedia, lol. Hey Handbag, your faggot guru agrees with me that Krishna married 16,108 women, so get that into your thick drunken head and go and argue with the same fool who institutes everything that you hate. LOL.
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/m1185"In case you are dyslexic, the topic is, "Sathya Sai Baba, who is he?" The topic is NOT, "What do three anti-Sai hatemongers think about Sai Baba?"Look at Lisa De Witt's cheek, telling me to be "on topic" when it suits her after her entire history on this board (as even now) is to abuse former devotees. Gee, how on-topic she is, maybe that's why she's continuing to spam this board with letters and asking questions to the Exbaba.Com webmaster when she could email him? LOL, such sneering hypocrisy. "It's disgusting hearing you talk about Jesus after you were drooling over his pictures in a VERY blasphemous way."What were you saying about being on-topic just a second ago, Lisa? :-) And as for your spurious claim, where is the proof? I have been asking you since 2004; where is the proof that I sent/received these pictures? I have repeatedly denied having such pictures and I have never seen such pictures, yet you still stupidly claim this wout any sort of proof to backup your words. Speaking of which, you also accused me of sending/receiving child porn and you were not able to prove that either. Where is the proof?You haven't got any. So I suggest you shut your drunken mouth before you end up in a jail cell (as you so often love to say). "Read it again dumbloon:
Jhn 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
Jhn 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
Jhn 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?"Read it again yourself, dumbloon. I've already quoted Pslam 82 to give the correct context of Jesus' words; he was not saying that "you are all gods" as per Advaita, but just affirming the presence of divinity (by agency of the soul) in everyone, which is a fundamental tenet of most religions anyway. Nothing special. Duh. Keep on twisting Jesus' words, and let's see what happens when the Christians come after you , LOL. Ted Haggard's followers need a new scapegoat to hate, perhaps I should suggest your name, you drugged-out Fundo Christian moron? :-) How hypocritical of Gerald Moreno to claim a right-wing Christian campaign against Sai Baba (impying that he has a problem with Christianity and religion as a whole) when he himself openly embraces and encourages an abusive schizophrenic Bible-basher in his own arms, hoping to be a recipient of the same visions of Jesus and angels that she gets, lol!
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Talking to these pro-Sai faggot-worshippers is the same everywhere. First it started with Sarfaraz Shamsi, then Lisa De Witt, now Gerald Moreno arrived just five minutes ago to take up the banner. The Three Psychopaths, lol. Trying to make them understand is like bashing your head against a brick wall, why bother?
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re /m1189C02000, now we know where the list of 155 alleged sexual abuse students came from! Thank You! This would also explain how Anti-Sai's got the names to instructors. It's all on there. Apparently, Reinier paid for access to email the students. Although one can get their names, one cannot email without paying for it. ExSaiStudent posted the list of student's names on September 7th 2001 ( Reference. This list of names was first published on "saipages.com" on their guestbook on September 5th 2001 ( Reference). Reinier said he emailed these students on March 2001. Apparently, "ExSaiStudent" read this Dutch article and then lifted the names from alumni.net and posted them on these boards. One may argue that Reinier's list had 206 names whereas ExSaiStudent's contained 155. Problem solved. When I accessed the current list for Baba's schools, some of the names are repeated 2-3 times each. Removing the redundant names would reduce the numbers. So much information, I know an article and a blog is forthcoming. More Anti-Sai deception exposed.
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re /m1195Sanjay, we have the proof but we are keeping it "secret" and "confidential" because you cannot be trusted with it. lololol Sound familiar dumbo? This is EXACTLY the same lame excuse you use with us when we demand proof that Sathya Sai Baba sexually abused children and is a pedophile. If you can use this excuse, so can we. Same standards across the board Ahh...stop pulling out your hair and gnashing your teeth. Pray to the Dark Complexioned One :-)
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It's just too bad that the FBI, CIA, Sureté, British Parliament, UNESCO, US State Dept., SBS, CBC, DR, BBC, Daily Telegraph, The Times, The Guardian and numerous other lawful and media agencies are all fully apprised of the proof of Sathya Sai Baba's homosexual child-rapist activities. Same standards across the board? I don't think so. :-) So in other words, you don't have proof that I sent/received any "Jesus porn" pictures, yet you sit back and tacitly approve of Lisa De Witt's slanderous defamations which have no basis in truth. This shows that you are fully partial towards pro-Sai causes and possess an overwhelming bias and hatred for anything anti-Sai. Thank you, Gerald. :-)Go on Moreno, shoo, go and fight with csloat. Oh I forgot, he thinks the discussion is over, lol. And rightly so. As of now, everyone on Wikipedia thinks you are an idiot. :-)Keep talking faggot-worshipper, Pink certainly is in for you. :-)
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And while I'm on the subject, Lisa De Witt has also weighed in her unwanted opinion on Wikipedia: "Since many of us feel that the salon.com article was very biased and poorly researched, there are two options. Either do not include it at all, or if you do, anti-Sais must allow rebuttal on contentious points. Simple solution..."Wake-up call, Lisa! Who is "us"? And Wikipedia is not a soapbox for your opinions but is an encyclopaedia article. So no one cares for your toxic feelings, lol. Oh and by the way, stop quoting Vajpayee's letter as proof of anything because Vajpayee is also biased, being a devotee for seventeen years. :-) Ditto for the other signatories on that letter, they have been devotees for variable numbers of years. Boo hoo. :-)
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And it is also amusing to point out that although the "FBI, CIA, Sureté, British Parliament, UNESCO, US State Dept., SBS, CBC, DR, BBC, Daily Telegraph, The Times, The Guardian and numerous other lawful and media agencies" all have "proof of Sathya Sai Baba's homosexual child-rapist activities", Sathya Sai Baba has NEVER been charged with any wrongdoing or crime. lol Keep on name-dropping Sanjay. If all those agencies really had "proof", Sathya Sai Baba would have at the least been charged with something. He has never been charged with anything! Nevertheless, you and other Anti-Sai Activists have boasted, time and time again, that you guys were the one's behind all the negative media against Sai Baba. This is a smear campaign with no proof. And you cannot provide any proof about any complaints being filed with the FBI. It is all hearsay.
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/m1195Sorry Sinjay but we have documented ( /m272) very clearly everything about your sordid and perverted past and present, down to the words out of your own foul mouth and confessions, including your constant abuse and harassment which continues up to this very day unabated. You keep forgetting (which is what happens when you tell so many lies) by your own words you asked for "more pics of biblical." One does not ask for MORE pics unless they ALREADY got pics to begin with. Capische, dud boy? Since you bozos are the ones doing 99% of the abuse on this and other boards, all one has to do is look at your insults and lies below to see the truth. Funny that you are so deluded to think your incessant lies are going to get you out of the big hole you dug for yourself. One would think that you would learn some day that it's your continuous LIES that got you into this mess in the first place. Why don't you go play on the other board where you can insult to your hearts content with the other dementeds like you? You can ramble and throw your hissy girly fits all you want but the simple truth is you have no proof of anything. All you have are a bunch of proven liars who won't go to the police because their subterfuge will be exposed. Your group is nothing but a hate group and will go down in history as such. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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/m1197Yes Joe, I had a feeling that list of students might have come from the alumni.net list, especially since Reinier was very careful not to post the student letters on the english site. The hate group needed to make it look like Indians were complaining otherwise it would be too apparent it is all suspiciously ADULT male foreigners (most who happen to be white and have Catholic backgrounds, strangely enough) claiming to be sexually abused. Of course they could not get any reliable complaints from actual Indians so they had to make something up. I'm sure CBI already knows all this. You may want to make a screen capture of the archived saipages.com post because my browser sticks whenever I go onto that page and I can't get out for a while. I don't know if others are having the same problem.
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/m1200Wikipedia is a repository for FACTUALLY documented information such as Prime Minister Vajpayee's letter which I posted there. Vajpayee's letter states unequivocally that this campaign against Sai Baba is CONCOCTED and MALICIOUS and all the documentation backs that up. And Vajpayee had TWO Supreme Court Justices backing him up bozo. Even Blair makes it clear you con artists have NOT reported ANY crimes to the Indian police. According to your own reasoning we cannot trust anything you anti-Sais say because you are negatively biased. Funny how you are always too blind to see that your standards are all one-sided in your favor. This is why nobody with a brain takes you hypocritical and obviously brain dead con artists seriously. You continuously put your self-centered ideology ahead of the FACTS. Then on top of that, you continuously lie and try to deceive people as to what the facts are. Unfortunately for you, professional law enforcement sees beyond your hate campaign just like those of us who actually have working brain cells (because we have not destroyed them with drugs and alcohol like so many of you). Whine all you want Sinjay, the truth is out about your hate group now and your end is near. All you are doing is showing you are no friend to the Indian people (mind you Sanjay is a Sri Lankan rebel-type anyway).
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i wonder what usedbybaba has to say about these answers from students.
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There is not a single name. This is a joke by your friend joe. None of them have resPonded.ofcourse there are boys who have not been molested in the list.The reason for this is,the list has been given by one or two guys who listed all the so called form boys. It is difficult to give the exact list but I know that 95% or atleast 90% is correct, BUT ARE YOU HERE TO FIND THE TRUTH????? "Twenty Two Sai Students Respond To The Allegations Against Sathya " IS A JOKE CREATED BY JOE. THIS IS NOT THEIR RESPONSE. AFTERALL THEY ARE DEVOTEES ACCORDING TO YOU. WHY CAN'T THEY WRITE THEIR NAMES. THIS IS JOE'S RESPONSE IN THE NAMES OF STUDENTS.
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Usedbybaba, are you illiterate? I suggest you re-read the page. I was not the one who hid the Students names. The webmaster for the ExBaba site himself hid their names because he promised them that he would. Those emails, from Sai Students were obtained by the ExBaba Webmaster himself! Therefore, the ExBaba Webmaster vouched for the integrity and the accuracy of those emails. Tough pill for you to swallow, I know. But you were never a student. You are, however a vicious liar and a pervert with proof.
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ubb,don't you get it?Joe only commented on this article : http://home.hetnet.nl/~ex-baba/kortnieuws/uitslag.htmlit's a dutch version of exbaba.com site.For some reason this stuff wasn't posted on the English version. Reinier Van Der Sandt got their(students) emails from alumni.org ,he emailed them and asked them questions about the abuse.He's the one who decided not to post their names,he promised them privacy. Basically your 22 fellow students that responded, denied the allegations.
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/m1208Usedbybaba never fails to show how dumb he is. Can usedbybaba not even tell the difference between pro and anti-Sai Baba sites? I took that info off of Reinier van der Sandt's exbaba.nl site myself, goofball. And then the hypocrite whines, "There is not a single name...", entirely forgetting in his apparently drunken fog that he has not given his name! And what it boils down to is that it looks like YOU were most likely the person who released the list of students from alumni.net and claimed they had all been molested! In other words, YOU were probably the one posting as the exsaistudent. After all, when was his last post and suddenly you have popped up out of nowhere? And to top it all off, it looks like those people who supposedly posted on quicktopic, NEVER did. Someone COPIED the EXACT posts from the now defunct saipages.com guestbook and PUT them on the quicktopic board to make it look like lots of people had posted them. From the sound of it, it is a disgruntled person who got kicked out of school and had it in for some of those students (and even accused them of being pedophiles which is usedbybaba's modus operandi to a "T" since he has even accused us of being pedophiles) as well as the owner of saipages.com. And you very much sound like a disgruntled person usedbybaba. You have it in for anyone who calls you on the carpet for what you are...a blatant LIAR. I'd like to know just WHERE you think this smear campaign is going to go when there is not ONE student filing a complaint with legitimate authorities (because they are ALL phony names) bozo? Did you plan to live on the internet the rest of your life honking your horn until the Kali Yuga ends or what? You don't seem to have a very well thought out plan for a supposedly college educated person. And usedbybaba, HOW do you know the list was given by "one or two" guys unless you were in on it? BUSTED!!!
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By the way, I asked "usedbybaba" no less than 3-4 times if he was "exsaistudent" and he completely ignored the question. The fact remains that "usedbybaba" garbles, sounds, writes, capitalizes paragraphs, spams and speaks exactly like "exsaistudent". If he attempts to deny it now, it is a little too late.
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http://www.quicktopic.com/9/H/ehfcBK8qrWRYZ"krishna 248 08-30-2006 04:59 AM ET (US) i really appreciate the reply from you chandan and it's not that we have ver bad experiences of puttaparthi either .rather i have very good friends who still believe and though i have discussed issues with them ,they sitll have every right to follow their faith. You must also see our point. No one will ever put forth allegations knowing the person to be really divine himself. For us it's a matter of being ostatracised by the very society and system in which we have grown up. My grandparents and parents are still devotees and i know of many others who are still devotees and loveable person. But my experiences have been different. I have had those sex experiences with swami in the interview room and i was also afraid of going for darshans .Can you dare to ask brindavan teachersas to what happens with those boys who go sleeping in trayee at night i mean form boys i don't know if this practise still continues. but if you are happy with your faith then tis fine but we also have a right to express ourselves " ______________ wow.I did not read this post until now. ubb,but just recently you said your parents weren't devotees anymore. why are you doing this?
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/m1213This post by Krishna sounds just like usedbybaba even down to the way he contradicts himself. On one hand he says people (including his own family members) have a right to "follow their faith" even if it means following someone who allegedly molested him! Now does this make sense? Would you tell your family members they should follow their faith even if the person they are following sexually abused you? I don't think so. And another thing. Since it appears usedbybaba didn't show up until very late in the game, it seems to me he decided to jump on the bandwagon in case there was a lawsuit and money to be had. In fact, this may be true of many of the accusers after they saw Khorramshahgol's and Geyerhahn's emails on David Lane's site way back in 1997. The only accusers (that are documented) prior to that were Tal Brooke in his 1976 book and Keith Ord, who claimed in a 1992 or '93 Dutch article he saw Baba's genitalia supernaturally morph from male to female (see saisathyasai.com under witnesses).
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ABC Joe fool,
Keep lying. Keep spliting. Keep adding more and more names to your vastly lonely split thing you call a self. You are already shattered and scattered into so many pieces, you can't even remember your original name. You're so rude, when I or another ask a question of either Sanjay or "usedbybaba", you interrupt good conversations with more, oh hum-hum drum "diatribes". Poor dumb and lonely Joe, who can't get a girlish boy to adore him, not even sick-ass Sai. Sorry your "deliver" is rotting slowly unto death. Cancer of the brain--I see maglignant tumors developing already in both you and your silly little Sai, starting on the LEFT side. Want to keep mocking good folks, Joe, that actually do have a wonderful life? Jealous pornographic whore. Why did you order so many whoring pictures of naked gay boys (not men), then blame Sanjay for your pedophiliac perversions? When you look in the mirror, how many faces can you name? I name several. Have a nice day, split fool.
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/m1215Sorry Barbara, but anyone with perceptive abilities, which you don't seem to have, can tell that ABC is a FOREIGNER whose english is not the best. Besides that, unlike YOU Joe doesn't need to hide behind phony names. WHY? Because, unlike YOU, he has documented FACTS to support his contentions. Nice try. Face it Barbara, your hate-filled con game is over. Nobody who is SANE believes a word you say.
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Barbara does have my page in her favorites. Just like I said she did. Barbara, I don't know how times you cursed me with being "shattered". I also don't know how many times Mother Mary herself cursed me through you, but I am still doing very well. It appears that, despite your alleged contact with Mother Mary, you are a negative, hateful and vicious troll. Your words have finally caught up with you. You are a living and breathing cancer. Everything you say is dark, malignant and breeds disease. Everyone can see it except you. At best, you are to pitied.
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My God how smart you are joe.You confuse people and try to put up your point of view to convince. My god you are nothing but ****. your 22 boys are students of parthi and not among the 155 listed.I told you that among 1500 students every year only a handful used to get interviwes,repetedly. After that baba would select the next set of form boys.The OTHER BOYS would never be told nor will know of what is happening.REMEMBER, HE HAS THE WHOLE OF PARTHI AND BRINDAWAN CAMPUS UNDER CONTROL.
As already mentioned earlier, there are many among these victims who are devotees and will be more fanatic than you.For eg. Shiv shankar Sai ( the warden at parthi),C.Srinivas, part of the brindawan Administration. There are those like Mallikeshwaran who think that being a homo is fine. There are also names of non vicitims like Arunodhayan in the list who used to get interview along with his better looking (to baba) brothers (Arivadhithan and Arunodhayan).Arunodhayan was never molested but the other two were. Naren ramji- Devotee Jagdeesh chawla,Bhisma chawla,rathnakar chawla - Devotees
They are all victims but their whole values in life change. They will never never accept that they had sex with baba.They believe that baba has had sex with them for some spiritual purpose. There are others who do not know how to tell this to their parents and have no choice but to enjoy it.Too many things are involved here. Why don't you try Terry Lee Scott.He is white and a non devotee and is from Hawai.or try Krishnamurthi gopinath in U.S. WHY WILL YOU DO IT ?? THAT IS NOT YOUR AIM
Don't write to innocent students who just come and are never told of what happens in the interview room or have only got a few interviews because of their parents. There are hundreds who are not sexually attractive and are very devoted to baba.If i had told them of baba's miracles and sexual exploits,in parthi,the next minute it would have gone to baba thru the warden and i would have been in trouble.
Hey who is this krishna (according to lisa it is me). I know only one krishna. he studeid in parthi and was never molested,but his brother Murali who joined P.G in parthi was used by the sick baba.So this must be someone from Brindawan.HEY BRINDAWAN GUYS, MY DEEPEST SYMPATHIES TO ALL OF YOU VICTIMS. I was in Parthi and don't know many of you.I know only those who went from parthi to continue their education in brindawan.
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/m1218Sorry used buddy but Terry Lee Scott aka Terrance Payne was from California! What trash can are you getting your info from? And strangely enough, there is a Terrance Payne who ended up in jail and sells Indian artwork. Diana Payne aka Diana Scott was/is an art teacher currently residing/teaching in Idaho/New Mexico. Coincidence? And where are all these students (who are now grown men) who just can't seem to speak for themselves bozo? And WHY don't YOU contact them since you claim to know so much about their personal lives? Why aren't they backing up YOUR stories? Like I said, you are so comfortable blabbing about everyone else and throwing their names and personal info around while you hide like a COWARD! You keep coming back here with your silly stories and unprovable gossip. You are such an unbelievable character it is pathetic. You're even more unbelievable than Priddy! I'm not buying your hearsay. In fact, I think you, like so many anti-Sais, have mental problems. I can back up MOST of what I say with documentation. Where's yours, con man? One of those students from the alumni.net list wrote: Dear friend,I was a student at Sathya Sai Institute at Prasanthi Nilayam and have had interviews with Baba and have friends who were very close to baba.To me Sai Baba is god incarnate on earth and I have not felt or heard from any real sources the allegations that are being wired over the net as well as the allegations raised in your email. Even I was disturbed deeply with the allegations on the net and did my own enquiry.I even contacted some of the students whose name had appeared in the net. Nothing of this has ever happened according to my enquiry.Some of the stories are circulated falsely under the name of some students who were close to Baba and these students have no clue of the news. I can give you names if you need.Some of the news circulated in the net is totally false and I know it because I was there at the time period mentioned and no such thing had ever happened. Do not be carried away by these wild allegations. Sai Baba is god incarnate on earth and I have had personnel first hand experience of his Godhead.. If u have any more questions feel free to ask. Love and SaiRams M. 37 Date: Wednesday 12:22 17.05.2006 AJ Dear Mr. Moreno, thank you and God bless for the wonderful work you are doing with the website. I was a student in Swami's school for many years, and I wanted to corroborate something that an earlier guestbook author named Srinivas wrote: I saw the list of approx. 155 ex-students a few months ago, and was shocked to see that I recognized a great majority of those names, as they are contemporaries from my time at Swami's school, and I still keep in close touch with many of them. Needless to say, everyone I spoke with was shocked to hear about the website, and had no idea of its existence. They all vehemently denied any involvement with the site or its authors, and were enraged beyond words. In the end, they decided to follow Swami's example and not react. Our guess is that ex-baba found those names on some database of student names and without bothering about the truth, just listed them on the site. This is yet another example of how the Anti-Sai hate group engages in outright deception with a complete and utter disregard for truth, and is so willing to engage in libel and slander and harm people's lives. All we can do is pray that Swami have mercy on their souls, because they're in for many, many lifetimes of suffering. Let us not waste our righteous anger on them, but show them compassion and forgiveness.
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"Hey who is this krishna " ___________ this krishna /m1213is YOUyou're posting contradictions. As usual.
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Very good site, and very the interesting, is a lot of helpful information for me. But many spam in guestbook...:( With best wishes, Max
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Angel, now i know you are krishna and i don/t have to feel bad for you.
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/m1219 Lisa were you always like this.Terry lee scott left puttaparthi in 1980.He told us that he was from hawai.So if he shifted from there,is it necessary for me to know his whereabouts etc., I am not unemployed like you and your joe. Even krishnamurthi gopinath is originally from Canada but has shifted to U.S. See how silly it is to discuss these things.If you know them why don't you ask him about baba and why he left etc., When you have pepole who are near you you want to check things from us in India. Is it mere stupidity or is it deliberate. YOU(all three of you) DON'T WANT THE TRUTH BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FACE IT
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ubb,krishna has the same writing style as you. how stupid do you think people are?
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Lisa:"And WHY don't YOU contact them since you claim to know so much about their personal lives?" As i told YOU "IAM NOT UNEMPLOYED"
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ANGEL WHAT ARE YOU TRYING? TO PROVOKE ME? YOU ARE LIKE A CUNNING FOX. Every body knows who you are.no one is going to fall for your tricks.
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But it's you ( /m847) giving me "the truth".How can you expect the truth from a person who lies continuously about his identities on the INTERNET,pretending to be somebody else and posting total contradictions between his posts. How can i take anything you say as granted or as the truth?
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who am I? i am just a regular person,but i don't hide behind multiple identities,at least i don't use them to post.
That's what you do and you expect people to take you seriously.
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Answer my quetion. If baba says my life is my message,should he not tell us how and what happened on june 6th,1993. Don't bull shit around.
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Yes he should tell us what happened.
I told you that already ,so why are you asking me again?
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Joe aka sexybikerbabes060" EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED HAS SENT THIS MESSAGE TO sathyasaibaba2 · Sathya Sai Baba DISCUSSION CLUB IN YAHOO.ONLY YOU AND YOUR BABA WILL ENJOY THESE POSTS Cute Amateur Biker Babes looking for playmate! Check their profiles here: http://www.bestbikerclub.com/bikerpro/sexybikerbabes.htm
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BTW ubb those 22 students who studied at Parthi and who have been there for many years and received interviews ,said people like you are lying http://www.sai-fi.net/sathyasaibaba/sai_students_emails.htmlwhy are they calling you liars? "Don't bull shit around."saying this is fake,cause it is posted on the anti-sb site.By the exbaba webmaster. Your fellow students don't trust you.
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/m1228You post in different names and everyone knows that .Now don't act like you are very sincere.I DON'T TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY. YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO PARTHI, YOU ARE A SUPPORTER OF BABA, WHO DOES NOT WANT THE TRUTH TO BE REVEALED. so jump off.
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"Joe aka sexybikerbabes060" EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED HAS SENT THIS MESSAGE TO sathyasaibaba2 · Sathya Sai Baba DISCUSSION CLUB IN YAHOO.ONLY YOU AND YOUR BABA WILL ENJOY THESE POSTS Cute Amateur Biker Babes looking for playmate! Check their profiles here: http://www.bestbikerclub.com/bikerpro/sexybikerbabes.htm" _____________ ubb why are you lying?why are you doing this?
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"You post in different names and everyone knows that .Now don't act like you are very sincere.I DON'T TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY. YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO PARTHI, YOU ARE A SUPPORTER OF BABA, WHO DOES NOT WANT THE TRUTH TO BE REVEALED. so jump off" _______________ no i don't post in different names and never will.I don't have an agenda here.That's what you do for some reason.Posting contradictions behind many screen names. i want the truth to be revealed ,but the problem is you( /m847)'re the one revealing the "truth" or whatever that is to me.
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my fellow students (my batch mates and a few years junior students) know the truth.We discuss baba when we meet. Some are still devotees because they were not affected directly.I don't need a joker in the net to believe me.Even if i save one person from baba,I will be happy. I have already saved nearly 10 students when i was in parthi.they were about to be caught but escaped.So i do not want some joker to trust me.The 22 students are scared to give their names, why?? They requested exbaba (who does not know the background of any of these students)to avoid putting up their names, why?? Afterall they are defending the 'avatar' unlike us who have to fight the might of baba.
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you are the one who wanted me to promise on my parents.When i did that you happily ignored it.but you claim "i want the truth to be revealed". JOKE. If you feel i have written using different names , I feel the same about you.
WHEN IT COMES TO YOU, WE HAVE TO BELIEVE YOU AND WHEN IT COMES TO OTHERS, ESPECIALLY ANTI BABAS, WE ARE LIARS <B> YOU ARE NEUTRAL<B> THE JOKE OF THE MILLINIUM.
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/m1225Make up your mind usedcrybaby. First you say Joe and I are being paid by the Sai org and now you are claiming we are unemployed! Apparently you will say anything you think people will believe. And just WHAT does being employed have to do with contacting people? You claim to know so much about these people but you can't make a phone call or write them a letter (with all the time you have to spend blabbing about them here on the internet)? Why do you con artists ALWAYS have so many ridiculous excuses for why you can't come up with some credible information? Sorry bozo, I don't believe a SECOND HAND (unverifiable) word you are saying. You are just playing mind games as usual. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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Angel:who am I? i am just a regular person,but i don't hide behind multiple identities,at least i don't use them to post.
USEDBYBABA :WHY ARE YOU LYING? WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?
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/m1239Lisa Who requested you or your cronies to believe me. I told you that you are not interested in the truth. When there are people in U.S who had experienced baba's molestation, it is you, con artists who ALWAYS have so many ridiculous excuses for why you can't check for the same credible information, that you expect me to get it from U.S. Joker lady,I KNOW WHAT BABA IS AND IT IS FOR YOU TO CHECK WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED BABA'S DIVINE C***, IF YOU WANT.
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/m1223Were you ALWAYS as demented, slimy and deceptive as this bozo? Why are you lying about things you know nothing about? You don't know anything about me and what I do for a living. Do you make your living as a con artist? You seem to think so. Sorry but Diana Payne aka Scott wrote in her letter to the anti-Sais that she was from CALIFORNIA. And EVEN Robert Priddy wrote on the internet about her being from CALIFORNIA. I KNOW because I was the one who documented the info. Too bad you are such a lousy liar. Is it mere stupidity that you can't contact people you CLAIM to know and get them to back up your story ya con artist? Pathetic the mindless con games you are playing. Only someone as stupid as YOU would fall for them.
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you sucking parasite lisa,how the hell do i know what they told. Terry lee scoot told us that he was from Hawai. you are such a pedophile you will like to sit on unwanted topics. Go find out fro him why he told us that he was from Hawai. Pervert
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sick lisa it takes a few hours to travel, joker lady. you don't even know that. I TOLD YOU YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH
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/m1241You pathetic wacko, you are constantly harassing anyone who tells you they don't believe you, just like you are doing right now. You are CONSTANTLY telling people to contact people YOU claim to know ya pathetic con artist. If ANYONE is a parasite it is you ya coward. Get a life you sleazy, filthy mouthed pervert.
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See how Lisa and Angel get together.If he cannot handle , he calls lisa to abuse and vice versa. I SAW THRU UR GAME
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/m1243That's right you sleazy liar, you don't know what they told because YOU are a LIAR. You probably NEVER even knew the Paynes. You just make up one story after another because you are an attention-seeking wacko. One of these days you are going to lie to the wrong person and they are going to knock you into next year. It's obvious you don't know ANY of these people.
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/m1246Sorry you pathetic hypocrite but you were the one who started the insults FIRST. Look at your posts con man. I wasn't even HERE when you started your abusive drivel. And NEITHER was Joe and post /m1238 is a blatant lie about him. What is your excuse for that mindless and deceptive posting? Are you drunk?
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GET LOST LISA CALL JOE AND TELL HIM TO POST. Joe aka sexybikerbabes060" EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED HAS SENT THIS MESSAGE TO sathyasaibaba2 · Sathya Sai Baba DISCUSSION CLUB IN YAHOO.ONLY YOU AND YOUR BABA WILL ENJOY THESE POSTS Cute Amateur Biker Babes looking for playmate! Check their profiles here: http://www.bestbikerclub.com/bikerpro/sexybikerbabes.htm" _____________
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/m1249Just keep proving what a lying pervert and con artist you are, bozo. It's no wonder nobody takes you seriously.
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Lisa:You probably NEVER even knew the Paynes.
Ofcourse i don't know them.I know Terry lee scott as a student and nothing else.Period.
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Joe aka sexybikerbabes060" EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED HAS SENT THIS MESSAGE TO sathyasaibaba2 · Sathya Sai Baba DISCUSSION CLUB IN YAHOO.ONLY YOU AND YOUR BABA WILL ENJOY THESE POSTS Cute Amateur Biker Babes looking for playmate! Check their profiles here: http://www.bestbikerclub.com/bikerpro/sexybikerbabes.htm" _____________
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/m1251, /m1252Why are you acting like a five year old? Is this the best you can do at almost forty years old (or is it fifty-four like it says on your yahoo profile?), with a supposed college education? Pathetic wacko with a filthy mind and (big) mouth to go with it.
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"you are the one who wanted me to promise on my parents.When i did that you happily ignored it" ___________
ubb i did not ignore it i was puzzled that you did that,juts like i was puzzled that in one post you say your parents aren't devotees anymore and in other you claim both your grandparents and parents are still devotees. So,let's just say you leave me confused. :s
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"The 22 students are scared to give their names, why?? They requested exbaba (who does not know the background of any of these students)to avoid putting up their names, why?? " ____________
Do you not understand english or what? The webmaster said he would not disclose their names and he did not do that. They did not request that. They have no reason not to disclose their names. You're the who has the reason.You're the one accusing Sb of sexually molesting you.
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"See how Lisa and Angel get together.If he cannot handle , he calls lisa to abuse and vice versa. I SAW THRU UR GAME" _________________-
wtf?
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/m1252__________ why are you lying? lying is wrong.Don't do that.
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ubb,why are you posting porn links?
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"Usedbybaba" is in need of orthodox help. He comes in here accusing us of being "pedophiles" with no proof and then expects others to believe him when he makes similar defamatory accusations against Sathya Sai Baba. "Usedbybaba" even has the audacity to openly lie about me of sending "bikerbabe" links to the SSB2 Yahoo Group, yet he cannot even provide one single link to support his claim. This is the type of pathological liar who is expecting others to believe him. "Usedbybaba", as I said before, you are unbelievable and no one believes you. You have a big mouth and whiny opinions no one cares about.
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Andhra Pradesh - Hyderabad Sathya Sai birthday celebrations begin Staff Reporter HYDERABAD: The weeklong 81st birthday celebrations of Sathya Sai Baba commenced here at Shivam Temple on Friday. People gathered in large numbers for the inaugural day celebrations that included spiritual and cultural programmes. On the occasion, the Sathya Sai Seva Organisation organised a music concert by Pandit Tarun Bhattacharya and Subroto Bhattacharya apart from the seven-day free specialised medical camp for the downtrodden. Under the Narayana Seva programme, the organisation members offered free food to slum dwellers of Leprosy Colony, Moula Ali. The Mahila Vibhag also organised a special puja on the temple premises. Celebrations will conclude on November 23, the birthday of Sathya Sai Baba. © Copyright 2000 - 2006 The Hindu
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Hi Usedbybaba, Barbara and His Holiness Sai Exposedananda (Sanjay, I love your name :)
I had the best dream last night, and I just had to share it with you my friends. I know that according to sb devotees when sb appears to someone in a dream, it is supposed to be very auspicious, important and meaningful. Well, last night I dreamed that I was climbing a very steep, rocky mountain. Next to me was sb. He was struggling very hard to keep his footing. His feet kept slipping out from underneath him and rocks kept falling out from under his feet. He just was not able to take any advancing steps forward, and he was quite disturbed at his lack of progress uphill. He was angrily shouting obscenities at me because I, however, had a very steady grip and easily climbed away from his evil grasp. He eventually slid all the way to the bottom where there was a black pit that contained no escape. I shuttered to think that he would have even dared to climb beside me.
When I met with another ex-devotee today, I shared my dream with her. She graduated with honors while studying psychology, which included many classes in dream analysis and interpretation. She told me that my dream was quite easy to interpret, and that it showed the reality that sb is definately "slipping and falling down the 'mountain'--that my dream was a prophetic one, indicating the truth about sb--that he is definitely losing his grip on life. His efforts to rule the world, ie. be the 'king on the mountain' so to speak, would not materialize. She also said that my dream showed how he's losing control of his bodily functions as well as his demeanor, and that in the end, he will very quickly fall to his death. Isn't that great! Just thought I'd share.
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President to attend Sai Baba's 81st birthdayPuttaparthi (AP) Nov 17: Celebrations here to mark the 81st birthday of Sai Baba on November 22 will be attended by President A P J Abdul Kalam. According to the district administration, the celebrations will start from tomorrow. Union Home Minister Shivraj Patil will also attend the week-long celebrations that are expected to draw thousands of devotees from across the world. Kalam will also attend the convocation and silver jubilee celebrations of Satya Sai University the same day. --- PTI Disclaimer: Copyright 2006 PTI. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of PTI content, including by framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent (c) 2001-2006 newkerala.com All rights reserved
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/m1261"I had the best dream last night, and I just had to share it with you my friends. I know that according to sb devotees when sb appears to someone in a dream, it is supposed to be very auspicious, important and meaningful. Well, last night I dreamed that I was climbing a very steep, rocky mountain. Next to me was sb. He was struggling very hard to keep his footing. His feet kept slipping out from underneath him and rocks kept falling out from under his feet. He just was not able to take any advancing steps forward, and he was quite disturbed at his lack of progress uphill. He was angrily shouting obscenities at me because I, however, had a very steady grip and easily climbed away from his evil grasp. He eventually slid all the way to the bottom where there was a black pit that contained no escape. I shuttered to think that he would have even dared to climb beside me. " _______________________ Your dream is like a scene from a movie, really, so prophetic,I'm surprised you did not hear a thunder while rocks kept falling out from under his feet, or saw some lightning ,during his fall, "all the way to the bottom, where there was a black pit that contained no escape",it would've been even more dramatic.
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Kalam to inaugurate indoor stadium Wednesday November 22 2006 10:18 IST ANANTAPUR: A large number of VVIPs are reaching Puttaparti to participate in the 81st birthday celebrations of Satya Sai Baba on Wednesday. President APJ Abdul Kalam is expected to participate in the celebrations Panchayat Raj and Endowments Minister JC Diwakar Reddy will receive him on behalf of the Chief Minister. Apart from the President Governor Rameshwar Thakur, Maharashtra Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh, Karnataka Governor TN Chaturvedi and State Tourism Minister J Geeta Reddy are expected to participate in the birthday celebrations. By Wednesday Puttaparthi is expected to be overflowing with devotees of Sai Baba from all over. The district administration and the Satya Sai Central Trust are making arrangements to accommodate the pilgrim rush. Anantapur Range DIG N Jayarami Reddy, SP Stephen Ravindra and Collector D Kadmiel are camping in Puttaparti supervising the arrangements. There is a heavy deployment of police force and mobile checkposts have been set up on the roads leading to Puttaparti. The security at the newly built indoor stadium has been beefed up. The President is expected to reach Puttaparti on Wednesday afternoon. He will inaugurate Sri Satyasai International Centre for Sports Indoor Stadium built at a cost of Rs 20 crore at the Satya Sai Deemed University. He will also declare open a sports meet. He will participate in the Silver Jubilee Convocation of the Satya Sai Deemed University. The President is expected to spend the night at Puttaparti and leave for Delhi on Thursday morning. This site is managed by Express Network Private Ltd. No part of this site should be used in any other media without prior permission. e-mail: info@newindpress.com http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?I...ge=A&Title=Southern News - Andhra Pradesh&Topic=0
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Regarding Paul Lewis' Newspaper Article, I have it on very good authority that it did absolutely nothing to change the minds or the plans of even one single Sai Youth participant. All of the UK Sai Youth Group went to Puttaparthi with the full blessings of his/her parents. People are beginning to see through these baseless allegations, which are full of weasel-words like "claim", "if", "possibly", "maybe", "probably", "alleged", and various other words denoting exceptions and/or admissions of limitations to the allegations leveled against Sai Baba. These numerous weasel-words leave the allegations looking inconclusive at best and works of fiction at worst. This is even more the case when one considers that Sathya Sai Baba has never been charged with any crime, has never been convicted of any crime and has never had even one single complaint lodged against him by any alleged victim (first-hand) in India.
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Happy Birthday to Bhagwan Sri Sathya Sai Baba on 23rd NOvember'2006. Wishing you the very best of life in years to come.
Let all of us abide by his Teachings and make our Lives a Successful Journey.. LOVE ALL SERVE ALL
Love you Baba Bless All Your Children Bless the World. Disha Kotwal.
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Happy Birthday Sai Baba, I know you are there for me and my family memebrs. Thanks a lot.
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Thanks for showering your love on us this year.May this world have thousand of such years to enjoy your love and presence amongst us.Bless all our children and bestow love on them..We bow at your lotusfeet
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Dear Swami ni, many happy returns of the day to you on your 81st Birthday, even though we all know that you are really 78. May you continue to entertain and amuse us for many more years, and please grant us the courage, strength and determination that is necessary to continue exposing you as a fraud, a sham, and a coward. We hope that you will be merciful enough to allow us to serve you in this way. Please accept some humble tokens of my unending love and gratitude, I hope this triple-whammy of a present will bring great joy to you as much as it has done for us: * The Truth About Sai Baba's Birthplace * The Truth About The Sai Baba Rock * The Truth Behind Sai Baba's HomosexualityKind regards, His Holiness Swami Saiexposedananda Copyright © Sai Baba EXPOSED! 2005-2006.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY SAI BABA!!!
You are the light of the world. You are the light that never fails.
Thank you for the unconditional LOVE and protection you have given me throughout my life.
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Why Sai Baba is 'politically' correctPallavi Ghosh CNN-IBN DIVINE POLITICS: President, ministers, and justices of the Supreme Court were present at celebration of Sathya Sai Baba's 81'st birthday. New Delhi: One of the interesting aspects about Sathya Sai Baba is the number of high officials and ministers who are his devotees. The list of his followers extends from politicians to ministers including former Prime Minister P V Narasimha rao, jurists P N Bhagwati, Chandrababu Naidu, Former Air chiefs and President A P J Abdul Kalam who were all present at the celebrations of Babas 81st birthday. "Personalities like him create hope in the minds ordinary persons. This is something that we should respect," Tourism Minister Ambika Soni said. Former Lok Sabha speaker Manohar Joshi says Sai Baba has showered him with spiritual security. "He has been doing lots of social work. All the money that comes to him from the devotees goes for the welfare of the people," Joshi said. Dalit leader Ramdas Athawle who isn't really a Manuwadi doesn't mind Sai Baba's presence in the Hindu pantheon. "He is respected by people and his fame is growing by each passing year. Believing him is not about religion but about spiritual faith," he said. In Parliament, the divine blessings of Sathya Sai are certainly wafting over many political heads. Ministers, president and justices of the Supreme Court have all beaten the track to get Babas divine blessings on his birthday. © 2006, Global Broadcast News. All Rights Reserved
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Debate: Sai Baba, a godsend?CNN-IBN SAINTLY SPEAKING: Sri Sathya Sai Baba is said to have 6-10 million devotees across the world. Sri Sathya Sai Baba 81st birthday marks decades of an incredibly popular cult and charitable works and International appeal. His devotees now number, some say, 6-10 million. Despite many controversies and detractions is Sai Baba perhaps Indias most enduring saint? That was the big question of debate on the CNN-IBN show India 360 with Sagarika Ghose. On the expert panel were Union Power Minister, Sushil Kumar Shinde and President of Indian Rationalist Association, Sanal Edamaruku. Sagarika Ghose: Mr Shinde, you have been Sai Babas devotee for many years. What does he mean to you? Sushil Kumar Shinde: He is a great social reformist. When I was the governor of Andhra Pradesh, I had the pleasure of attending his 80th birthday function. But today I am in Delhi so I sent him a fax saying that we cannot pray for you but we ask you for blessings to serve the poor community of India. I have known him for 30 years. I met him first in 1974. I see him as a great personality. Sagarika Ghose: What about the controversies that surround him and the personal allegations made against him? Sushil Kumar Shinde: I think the controversies are just one side of the story. He has been devoting himself to the young community in the colleges and schools he has opened. He has opened hospitals as well as starting water schemes in districts. He is part and parcel of God. Even God was criticized many times. But they have proved to be great saints. Sagarika Ghose: Mr Edamaruku, how do you react to him being an institution builder of many charitable institutions? Sanal Edamaruku: Mr Shinde can be a devotee and Sai Baba setting up many institutions is not of dispute to me but when he starts claiming that he can produce things from thin air, he is a miracle worker, is when the questions spring up. When he says he can produce holy ash from thin air, I would say he is a fraud. Sushil Kumar Shinde: But such strength comes from that kind of power. That power, whether it comes from Sai Baba or God, one has to find out. There are a number of people I have seen doing such things. I have seen Sai Babas miracles and experienced them. He has given me rings and lockets. One has to have faith. One can keep criticizing God and even a truthful person. But it depends on how you see it. I dont believe in blind faith. Even though I dont see him often, I believe in him. Sathya Sai Baba: Reincarnation of God or social reformer? His 'creations' are most often rings, medallions, bracelets, necklaces, watches, fruit, sweets, food, money. Yet he says he can turn earth into sky and vice-versa, that he contains all powers in his hand and knows everything about everyone. It was said that instruments played on their own accord in his household when he was born. According to professor Narayana Kasturi (Sathya Sai Baba's official biographer), Sathya was conceived through a Virgin birth. His mother, Easwaramma, claimed that she found out she was pregnant after a huge sphere of blue light rolled towards her, merged into her and made her faint. On May 23, 1940 the young Sathya claimed to be the reincarnation of the fakir Shirdi Sai Baba and subsequently took the fakir's name. Sagarika Ghose: But what is it about his message that makes it so universal? Is it because he gives things, hes like a Santa Claus, giving free food and treatment, that makes people like him? Sushil Kumar Shinde: Yes. Also, hes a man sent in the name of saint. He is creating a new community that is educated. He is teaching technology and science and not religion. Sagarika Ghose: Mr Edamaruku, the Union Minister for Power himself says that for him, Sai Baba is a reincarnation of God. That is faith. Should one unnecessarily be suspicious of faith? Sanal Edamaruku: Faith without critical thinking has no meaning. Blind faith without sustainable and tangible evidence is questionable. Sagarika Ghose: Mr Shinde, why do so many VIPs get attracted to Sri Sathya Sai Baba? Sushil Kumar Shinde: It is not because he gives jewellery. He gives advice. He replies to letters. It is a miracle because he has been giving advice to hundreds of thousands of people. How can he be a cheat? Sanal Edamaruku: These are magic tricks that can be done by any small-time magician. All the things that he does, from producing ash to reading letters are simple tricks that have been shown so many times including by me and other magicians. It has been caught on camera and shown on many channels all over the world and he has been challenged to do it in fraud-proof conditions. I have challenged him too but there was no response from him. Sagarika Ghose: Mr Shinde, Mr Edamaruku is asking why we have to accept someone as an incarnation of God if we want to accept him as a social reformer? Sushil Kumar Shinde: I accept him in both ways, but more as a social reformer. God has sent somebody to do the job. I am not a blind-faith man. On one occasion I asked Justice Baghwathi and Nani Palkiwala, supposed to be the best brains in the country, about it. They told me with their experience that he has some power. I believe that he has some power. He is utilizing it not to destroy society but to do good for the society. Sri Sathya Sai Baba's claims Observed to allegedly manifest vibuthi (holy ash), food and small objects such as rings, necklaces and watches. Healing diseases and sometimes taking on the illnesses of devotees on himself. Levitation (both indoors and outdoors), bilocation physical disappearances, changing granite into sugar candy, changing water into another drink, changing water into gasoline, producing objects on demand. Changing the color of his gown into a different color while wearing it, multiplying food, controlling the weather, physically transforming into various deities and physically emitting brilliant light. Sathya Sai Baba refused to have his materializations investigated under experimental conditions because he felt that the approach used by critics was improper. © 2006, Global Broadcast News. All Rights Reserved
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Now Sai Baba is known as 3G. :-)
No, this is not the cool abbreviation for third-generation mobile phones, it stands for the 3 Gs: Girly Gay God.
Yes, Sai Baba has been exposed as a liar. His maternal family maintain to this day that he was born in Karnatanagapalli as per local customs of pregnancy, and this is known even to senior officers of the Sai Organisation. Secondly he is a liar when it comes to the 'Sai Baba Gundu' photograph. For decades Kasturi & co. were propagating the lie that the little Shirdi statue was a stone originally, now it has been revealed that Anjaneyulu was already a devotee of Shirdi Sai and that the little statue was kept on the gundu anyway!
Last but not least, Sai Baba is an androgyne. Since he started his mission in 1943 (not 1940, lol), he has been a cross-dresser transvestite drag queen who still wears dresses every day!
Yes, go and worship your light of the world. 3G = Girly Gay God. Lol. I feel nothing but pity for your faggot-worship.
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/m1266"Regarding Paul Lewis' Newspaper Article, I have it on very good authority that it did absolutely nothing to change the minds or the plans of even one single Sai Youth participant. All of the UK Sai Youth Group went to Puttaparthi with the full blessings of his/her parents."Duh, how is that news? The trip was months in preparation with at least three major meetings in the following months to finalise all of the details. I knew about since April of this year, lol. The Guardian article was published a week before the trip so how could anyone pull out? And why would anyone want to pull out since they are all brainwashed devotees? It's not like normal British nondevotee citizens were being taken there, because there would have been even more of a hue and cry wouldn't there? :-) Very good authority? LOL. I could have told you that immediately. Instead, thank you Gerald, for finally admitting that he is in cahoots with the Sai Organisation in contrary to his previous statements. We already know of his connections with senior officers of the S. Org., but now we have it straight out his own mouth. Thank you. But I am still not interested in talking to a puppet. :-) We don't have time for monkeys like Moreno, please get us the organ-grinder. :-) "People are beginning to see through these baseless allegations, which are full of weasel-words like "claim", "if", "possibly", "maybe", "probably", "alleged", and various other words denoting exceptions and/or admissions of limitations to the allegations leveled against Sai Baba. These numerous weasel-words leave the allegations looking inconclusive at best and works of fiction at worst."Thanks to the publication of the Guardian article, I wouldn't be betting any money on the "truth" of Monkey Moreno's words. :-) There's another clue for you, wink-wink nudge-nudge. :-) People are starting to get even more concerned about the Girly Gay God, it's a massive snowball. :-) "This is even more the case when one considers that Sathya Sai Baba has never been charged with any crime, has never been convicted of any crime and has never had even one single complaint lodged against him by any alleged victim (first-hand) in India."This completely stupid argument continues to be parrotted away by those who defend a homosexual cross-dressing transvestite drag faggot queer. This is like saying that because Jack the Ripper was never caught and his identity was never uncovered, he is completely innocent of all the murders he committed. LOL, Girly Gay God faggot-worshipper, we don't talk to monkeys. Get us the organ-grinder, who can't bemore intelligent if they use Moreno as a puppet. :-)
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You'd think that the faggot would dress smartly when there is a huge ceremony to open his new house (Prashanti Mandir, 1958). But no, he dresses in a sari! And what's up with wearing a different sari for every day of the Dassera festivals? How gay is that? LOL.
And for Christ's sake, he wore jewellery and bangles at a Queen's palace! What, was he jealous of the Queen being a queen himself? Did he want to scratch her eyes out? LOL.
And oh yeah, I have more photos of him dressed up like a girly gay. I couldn't post so many pics in one posting right? They all prove the same thing, he is a girly gay. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. 3G!
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Too funny. Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is talking about the "3 G's" (Girly, Gay, God). Now let us take a look at the deities that Sanjay prostrates to, offers his repeated obeisances to and takes numerous pictures of (directly from Sanjay's "devotee" Gaurasundara blog): * Link 1* Link 2* Link 3Time to re-assess those "3 G's" again. lol All of the deities that Sanjay worships and prostates to (including those of Lord Krishna) look very girly and they all (without exception) wear dresses, wear make-up, wear women's jewelry and even have wigs! lol Sanjay, time to look in your own backyard. You are indirectly mocking your own deities by mocking Sathya Sai Baba. Too funny.
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Sex on the brain Sanjay sounds desperate, as usual. Wasn't it Sanjay that said ad hominem attacks are a sign of a poor debater?
Poor wannabe guru Sanjay couldn't get a dog to follow him around the block.
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How are the revelations of Sai Baba's androgynous tendencies considered an ad-hominem attack? How are the revelations of Sai Baba's birth in Karnatanagapalli (not Puttaparthi) an ad-hominem attack? How are the revelations about the Sai Baba Gundu an ad-hominem attack?
Poor Moreno and Lisa, two faggot homosexuals worshipping a Girly Gay God. And the hilarious part about it is that they can't even defend the Faggot Queer, so they try to blaspheme my religion and deity worship instead! And since deity worship is an intrinsic part of Vedic dharma which Sai Baba tirelessly propagates, oh dear, has Moreno shot himself in toe feet or Baba's feet?
By the way, I went along to the birthday celebrations here in London just to check it out. Just the usual platitudes and shit, nothing new. However, I am not prepared to talk to a couple of rabid monkeys and dogs like you two. Sai devotees are generally a bunch of nice folk (something I have always maintained despit my criticisms of the philosophical ignorance) and you two are a mighty blot on their clean white clothes.
Shut up and sit down, you silly little amateurs, and worship your girly gay god. The Guardian article is just the latest layer to a huge snowball that has been rolling since 1999. :-)
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Oh by the way, remember that when Moreno blasphemes Hindu religion, he is talking about marble deities. When I am laughing my ass off at Sai Baba, I am talking about a living breathing human being who wears dresses every day since 1945. So shut it, you silly ignorant silly little children. Lol. Did you give Swami saris for a birthday present? We know he loves them, even poses for pictures wearing them, lol.
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Hey, did you girly-gay worshippers get the part that there was a strong culture of Shirdi worship in Uravakonda too? Yes, Sai Baba LIED about that as well. There was a strong culture of Shirdi worship in Puttaparthi just as there was in Uravakonda. Anjaneyulu was already a devotee of Shirdi Sai Baba and purchased that little statue months before the photo was taken.
And Kasturi dares to dress this up as a "miracle story"! Obstructive stone indeed! It miay not have been his fault since Sai Baba may have lied to him as well, given that Kasturi had unfettered access to SB and other figures to write his fairytales.
So shut up and sit down you silly amateurs. There is much more strong stuff just waiting to be revealed that you haven't a single clue about. I reserved my opinion on the Karnatangapalli issue since 1999 when people were talking about on the Lane club (ssb2), and it is only now that I have the confirming information. It's all one big massive lie with Sai Baba. Get that drilled into your thick brainwashed tat-twam-asi heads, lol.
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Sangay, I'm going to blog about it :-) Am working on it right now. Are you saying that your "marble deities" are lifeless stones and they are simply dolls after all? Keep babbling Sanjay, you are giving me much more stuff to blog about. Funny enough, I have many links to many pictures of the marble deities that you prostate to and offer your repeated obeisances to. Want to talk girly and gay? I have the pictures from Bhaktivedanta Manor (the temple Sanjay attends) to back it up. Too funny. Coming soon.
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Morono, nobody cares. :-) Keep blogging, cough cough, lying as much as you like. Nobody is going to notice it and nobody is going to read it. The Average Daily Visitor count for my blog jumped from 81 to 132 overnight, thanks to these new and damning revelations. Your previous "exposures" of my exposés are the spasticated ravings of a mentally-deranged individual, therefore I'm not expecting any interesting rebuttal from a barking dog like you. :-) You are not interested in truth, but only in hits. That is why you spam your links around so much because you are so desperate. I don't need to spam my links and nor do I have to colour them pink/red to hide my homosexuality like you. At least Sai Baba has the guts and the honesty to wear dresses and saris in full acceptance of his sexual orientation, what a shame on you. :-) Keep blaspheming Hindu religion too. Your comments will not sit well with millions of Sai Baba devotees who are all, er, Indian? LOL, talk about shooting yourself in the feet! The fact is that you are whining on and on about marble deities, whereas here we have a living breathing person who dresses up in girls' clothes every single day since 1945! Girly gay! LOL! Shoo off to Wikipedia where you were humiliated about Salon.Com. Now everyone knows that you are a bad-faith editor. You even tried to get R. Priddy's article deleted, and your bad-faith nomination was noticed there too by impartial editors. LOL. Your ill name is spreading almost as fast as your girly gay Sai Baba's. There should be quite a few blogs about that coming out when I have some time, and when I'm not quite so preoccupied by faggot drag transvestite girly sequin queens. LOL. :-)
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This faggot gay-worshipper actually thinks that people are interested in what he has to say, lol. Unbelievable.
- He has no information about Sai Baba's birth in Karnatanagapalli, which is confirmed by members of his (Baba's) own maternal family. - He has no information about the truth behind the Sai Baba Gundu in Uravakonda. - He has no information that I have even more pictures of Sai Baba dressed like a Girly Gay Gaandu, lol.
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Hey Moreno, girly gay, you see those four pictures that document the opening of the PN Mandir in 1958? Check out the fourth one, and ignore that huge and thick sari your girly guru is wearing for the moment. Notice how scared he looks? Wonder why that is? Because he was being stoned!Yes, even upto 1958 and beyond, the local villagers were still highly annoyed at Sai Baba being a patent fraud and a sexual abuser of little children, and they stoned Sai Baba and the procession members while they were carrying the Queer on a palanquin to formally open the new mandir.
See? Even illiterate and ordinary backwoods villagers can recognise a faggot queer when they see one, but people like you who enjoyed being oiled by Sai Baba (according to Alan Kazlev) jump up and down for joy every time Sai Baba inserts his penis into a child's anus and forcefully rips it to pieces.
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Sanjay Kishore Dadlani Middlesex University Student Residing In The UKSanjay Dadlani (aka "Gaurasundara") has developed a new-found sensitivity for "girly and gay gods" and thinks that since Sathya Sai Baba wears "dresses every day" (they are actually gowns/robes) he is a "cross-dresser transvestite drag queen" who is "androgyne". On the QuickTopic forum, Sanjay said: Now Sai Baba is known as 3G. :-) No, this is not the cool abbreviation for third-generation mobile phones, it stands for the 3 Gs: Girly Gay God....Last but not least, Sai Baba is an androgyne. Since he started his mission in 1943 (not 1940, lol), he has been a cross-dresser transvestite drag queen who still wears dresses every day! Yes, go and worship your light of the world. 3G = Girly Gay God. Lol. I feel nothing but pity for your faggot-worship. What is amusing about Sanjay's comments is that he is a self-professed Hare Krishna Congregational Member who prostrates, sings, prays, worships and offers repeated obeisances to the deities of Lord Krishna and Srimati Radharani at the Bhaktivedanta Manor Temple in the UK. This is the same temple where Sanjay claimed he was (sexually?) abused and whose president (Gauridas) personally told me, "Shocking...Whatever connections he (Sanjay Kishore Dadlani) has professed to have with ISKCON are fictitous. Therefore do not link him to Bhaktivedanta Manor!"At the Bhaktivedanta Manor, both of the deities of Radha-Krishna wear elaborate, embroidered and effeminate-looking dresses (mostly in pastels), earrings, rings, necklaces, wigs, lipstick, nail-polish, eyeliner, sparkle make-up around the eyes, jingling bell-anklets, bracelets, bangels, toe-rings, butterfly and flower barrettes, pearls, flowery garlands, shawls, colorful decorations and elaborate head-pieces! The following links are pictures of deities at the Hare Krishna Bhaktivedanata Manor (the temple Sanjay attends in the UK). These are the alleged non- "gayish" and non- "girly" deities that Sanjay prostates to, prays to and fervently worships as God Incarnate: Lord Krishna (male): Examples:Examples: 01 - 02 - 03 - 04 - 05Radha-Krishna (male on left, female on right):Examples: 01 - 02 - 03 - 04 - 05Lord Krishna's Feet With Anklets, Toe Rings, Nail Polish, etc. (male):Examples: 01 - 02 - 03Click Here To View All BhaktiVedanata Manor PicturesAfter looking at all these pictures, it is nothing less than utter absurdity and sheer hypocrisy for Sanjay to point his pudgy, self-righteous fingers at Sathya Sai Baba and accuse him of being a "Girly Gay God". Especially when the deities Sanjay worships and prostates to are extremely "girly" and profoundly "gayish". These deities look like they just emerged from the New Orleans Mardi Gras. Although I have never given it much thought before one could certainly reason (especially like the Indian Rationalists that Sanjay superficially sides with, although he is a Gaudiya Vaishnava) that these marble deities are dressed like "cross-dresser transvestite drag queens" who are "androgyne". I have met many people who thought Lord Krishna was a woman and who could not tell the difference between Lord Krishna and Radharani. This is because Lord Krishna is usually depicted as a very effeminate male. Here is a popular picture of Lord Krishna that proves my point: {{picture snipped}} Why does Sanjay worship such effeminate looking deities in the first place if he is so offended by and sensitive to "girly" and "gay"-looking gods? Putting aside Sanjay's indirect mocking of the "girly" and "gay" gods at the Bhaktivedanta Manor, he also implied that these deities are lifeless marble stones that are devoid of any living presence! Hare Krishna! Sanjay said: Oh by the way, remember that when Moreno blasphemes Hindu religion, he is talking about marble deities. When I am laughing my ass off at Sai Baba, I am talking about a living breathing human being who wears dresses every day since 1945. Sanjay just "blasphemed" his own Hindu religion when he contrasted a "living breathing human being" with "marble deities" that are apparently lifeless and do not embody any living presence! Why should I say anything against the worship of stone dolls when Sanjay just made the case for me? Apparently, Sathya Sai Baba is not allowed to wear a gown/robe but stone deities that are worshipped as God Incarnate can wear effeminate dresses, make-up, jewelry, etc., and it is actually encouraged and eulogized! Although Sanjay was quick to accuse me of "blaspheming" the Hindu religion (as he often does), he is feigning self-righteous religious fervor. Sanjay publicly defends and promotes the Anti-Sai Activists Robert Priddy and Barry Pittard, both who explicitly "blasphemed" Gaudiya Vaishanvas, Hare Krishnas, Hindus and their scriptures when they said that people who believe in the Ramayana are "backward intellectually" "ignorant peasants" who believes in "impossible concocted stories of the 'Superman' kind" ( Reference). Needless to say, Sanjay casually dismissed these comments and was not offended by them whatsoever! Sanjay is a religious hypocrite who is willing to compromise his own religious beliefs when it comes to Sathya Sai Baba. Let one Sai devotee or proponent say one word remotely critizing Sanjay's religious beliefs and he gnashes his teeth, foams at the mouth and cries "blasphemy". However, when Anti-Sai Activists directly, unequivocally and explicitly attack Sanjay's religious beliefs, he is wholly unconcerned and ignores it. Sanjay has a very strange sexual obsession with Sathya Sai Baba. What is disturbing about this is that Sanjay has a proven sexual obsession with Jesus Christ and a proven sexual obsession with boots and strappy shoes. Factor in Sanjay's orgasmic salivations over Lord Krishna's Biceps, his Disgusting Feces Obsession and the numerous exposures against him (Refs: 01 - 02) and everything reeks of deviancy, hypocrisy and perversity. If it moves like a snake, looks like a snake, slithers like snake and hisses like a snake, it's a snake. Sanjay (the snake of the Anti-Sai Movement) keeps slithering, hissing and spitting venom at everything that moves, including his own religion. All I have to do is say a few words and watch Sanjay self-destruct in a fit of anger and bitterness. Sanjay has solidly situated himself between a rock and a hard marble deity. I say "3G" across the board. So what do you say, Sanjay? ( P.S.: For Bhaktivedanta Members who may still be unsure as to Sanjay's identity, he is the author of the Gaurasundara Blog, which has his picture displayed on it.)
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Girly-gay Sangay seems to keep forgetting he was the one found on alt.sex jesus porn sites drooling and obsessing over porn photos of Jesus ( /m272). And the pervert has the gall to accuse others of blasphemy! I thought I'd seen it all. Talk about projecting his own gay qualities onto others. Everyone is gay in Sanjay's world. No wonder he has sided with Hari Sampath, David Bailey, Conny Larsson, Keith Ord and others in the anti-Sai gay brigade. Sangay Dadlani, the Whore of Babble-on.
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/m1282Yeah, right Sangay. That snowball circa 1999 has since melted down to a puddle of obsessive Sangay tears. You'll obsess and hiss until the next smear article posing as investigative journalism, which I'm sure will be soon knowing how many obsessive hate fanatics there are in your group of wannabes trying to make a name for themselves. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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GREAT JOB SANJAY.I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPH OF THE HOMO BABA AS A GIRL.REALLY GREAT JOB.
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ANGEL, who is lying. it is you.i have never mentioned my grand parents in any of my mails,but you say i did.When your friend joe says that sanjay is or was interested in jesus pron you have no problems but when we retaliate you come running to the pedophile's rescue.WHAT IS YOUR CONNECTION? When you and your friends talk of the 22 students,I say they are not among the 155 or so abused, further if they are really interested in supporting baba, they can tell exbaba to put up their names.Any how, that is not the point.There are hundreds of students who don't know anything about the other side of baba. Why is your crackpot Lisa or you not talking to those who were former students and openly oppose baba.
You say you know the Bharwanis. you know that their father died in a train accident? He was not driving the car which was crossing an unmanned gate in Indonesia.YOUR SUCKER BABA CALLED THE THREE CHILDREN AND THEIR MOTHER AND TOLD THEM THAT THE FATHER BHARWANI WAS DRIVING THE CAR AND THE GEAR STICK PIERCED HIM IN THE STOMACH. THE FAMILY WAS DEVASTATED AND MRS. BHARWANI TOLD BABA " BABA DON'T SHOW SOME DOG OR SOMeO THER ANIMAL AND SAY THAT IS MY HUSBAND.IF YOU CAN, SHOW ME MY HUSBAND IN HIS ORIGINAL FORM". The Bastard baba kept quite. I don't know whether they are devotees.Jagdish and Sunil came back to parthi after one year or so and then jagdish came once more.I did not see them after that.Maybe they are coming now .I don't know.
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Joe aka sexybikerbabes060" EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED HAS SENT THIS MESSAGE TO sathyasaibaba2 · Sathya Sai Baba DISCUSSION CLUB IN YAHOO.ONLY YOU AND YOUR BABA WILL ENJOY THESE POSTS Cute Amateur Biker Babes looking for playmate! Check their profiles here: http://www.bestbikerclub.com/bikerpro/sexybikerbabes.htm" _____________
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Hey Devotee mercinaries, do you know hwat baba used to call 'Suprabatham'
SUPER BOTTOM. I don't know who taught him that, maybe Kasthuri.V.K Narasimhan was not that free with baba,I think.
If you have doubts about these incidents, check with the students who stayed there for long period.You have to gain their friendship and then ask them.
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Another incident or shall i say two. Baba had called me for interview.A lady who was in her 50s reverentially caught baba's hand and that bastard looked at me and sheepishly smiled BASTARD. I was surprised but not shaken from my devotion then.Now when i think of it I realise how foolish I was, not to understand his real true nature. HE IS NOTHING BUT SHIT.MAYBE HOLY SHIT , BUT SHIT. SUCH A CREEP.
II There was a boy, a malyalee,by name S.. he was made to go to baba's bed room and he had to suck baba's thing till 1.30 or two in the morning. This boy used to avoid baba and used to send the other prtico duty boys, even when baba called him upstairs.I PRAY THAT BABA GETS HIS DUE IN THIS BIRTH.
I am sad when i think that I am born in such a democracy.You cannot do anything to such a crook. Of course I am happy that atleast i am not born in Iraq or any other country with a dictator.
A DAY WILL COME WHEN BABA WILL BE BEHIND BARS.I HOPE AND PRAY IT HAPPENS BEFORE HE DIES.
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/m1263 ANGEL SEE HOW YOU PICK ON NON DEVOTEES AND THEN SAY U ARE NUTERAL.If we write something we are liars but if you and you "friends " write, they are like messengers of God who never lie. Even i get Dreams of baba .In the dream, baba keeps talking to me.I know that it is nothing but a dream. There are people who get prophetic dreams. I am not one.
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/m1293"ANGEL, who is lying. it is you.i have never mentioned my grand parents in any of my mails,but you say i did." _______________ i think you posted as "Krishna",so i think you did,not that i care. "When your friend joe says that sanjay is or was interested in jesus pron you have no problems " ___________ why would i have problems? "but when we retaliate you come running to the pedophile's rescue.WHAT IS YOUR CONNECTION?" _______ I just noticed you posting contradictions under various usernames and pointed that out.I'm not rescuing or posting pro or against anyone.
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/m1297ANGEL SEE HOW YOU PICK ON NON DEVOTEES AND THEN SAY U ARE NUTERAL.If we write something we are liars but if you and you "friends " write, they are like messengers of God who never lie. Even i get Dreams of baba .In the dream, baba keeps talking to me.I know that it is nothing but a dream. There are people who get prophetic dreams. I am not one. ______________________________ i am neutral. I never once called anyone a liar.
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Usedbybaba, you are sick. You are a liar. Everyone is still waiting for your proof that we are pedophiles. Everyone is still waiting for your proof that I make money off my websites. Everyone is still waiting for your proof that I posted a link to a bikerbabes sites on the SSB2 Yahoo Group. You are a bold-faced liar with proof! And you have the audacity to expect others to believe you when you make similar defamatory claims against Sathya Sai Baba. Keep babbling making up your stupid stories. No one believes you. You are sick and everyone knows it. The more people read about ex-devotees, the more people are realizing you all are a bunch of perverts, liars and mentally unstable individuals. Keep speaking, you are making a strong case arguing in favor of devotees and proponents.
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/m1296Usedbybaba seems to show up on weekends acting like a drunk. I suspect he goes out drinking and then comes to the board. If you look at the last time he posted it was last Saturday, same time, same place. I made a mental note last weekend about this and it seems I am right. Usedbybaba seems to have an obsessive personality. Like, Sangay, he fixates whenever he doesn't get his way. And drunks are known to repeat the same garbage over and over again, ad infinitum just like the wacky bozos, Dadlani and usedbybaba. Anybody who believes this anonymous person's gossipy second-hand sob stories needs their heads examined. Not one of his claims can be verified so he is obviously a pathological liar (kind of like Robert Priddy, Conny larsson, Sanjay Dadlani, Barry Pittard and Tony O'Clery). The one thing they all seem to have in common is drug and/or alcohol abuse. Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
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/m1293I see crackpot usedbybaba is STILL childishly demanding we contact people he claims he knows so much about! WHY doesn't crackpot usedbybaba contact them himself and get them to back up his claims? Used buddy, you are all hot air. Maybe you should get a job filling tires. You'd be good at it. God knows you are obviously NOT an intellectual.
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OUR DEEDS REVEAL OUR MOTIVES OUR MOTIVES DESIGN OUR HABITS OUR HABITS DECIDE OUR CHARACTER OUR CHARACTER DETERMINES OUR DESTINATION--Sathya Sai Baba
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/m1296Usedbybaba, Sai Baba most likely smiled sheepishly at you because he knew what a wicked "bass turd" you are and the evil you would do in the near future. I'm sure one would not even have to hear you open your dirty mouth as the foul odor emanating from your aura is enough to tell the whole story.
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/m1257Angel you called me a liar and now you are changing. You have no proof that i posted in different names, but are you serious about knowing the truth.NO All you do is accuse Anti babas of being liars and so many things. jump off.
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pedophile Lisa and her gay and pedophile partner joe have started getting jittery that more and more people are going against baba. I did not call her bastard but she has.But the angelic neuteral is not finding anything wrong.
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Joe aka sexybikerbabes060" EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED HAS SENT THIS MESSAGE TO sathyasaibaba2 · Sathya Sai Baba DISCUSSION CLUB IN YAHOO.ONLY YOU AND YOUR BABA WILL ENJOY THESE POSTS Cute Amateur Biker Babes looking for playmate! Check their profiles here: http://www.bestbikerclub.com/bikerpro/sexybikerbabes.htm" HE AND HIS MERCENARY DEVOTESS WANT TO SAVE HIM BY CALLING ME A LIAR. BUT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT HE DID THIS TO DISRUPT THE DISCUSSION,BUT GOT CAUGHT. ___ EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED__________
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11-26-2006 08:23 AM ET (US)
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When your friend joe says that sanjay is or was interested in jesus pron you have no problems " ___________ Angel :why would i have problems?
Then shut up when I write about Lisa and Joe and don't call me a liar. Don't bother doing the cutting and pasting of my mails to help your joe, so that he can attack me instead of talking baba. What was the need to call me omsai,Krishna and so many other names. It was a cue given to joe who immediately posted a mail crediting all the Anti baba mails to me.Why did he and you do it ?? Only because you could not digest the facts about baba in my mails.
After that when i was talking without abusing. you could not bear it , you posted mails in my name to provoke me. Such a creep. Then when I was wrtting again about baba and my point of view, especialy about "My Life is my message" You rummaged through the two months old mails and pasted them .WHY ? and you have the cunningness to call yourself nuteral and act innocent.
Look what the pedolisa is writing.Nothing but abuses.But the mercenary devotee called joe is happy about it. When I retaliate, both you and the pedophile and molester worshiper Joe 108 is unhappy. GO FIND A BABA DEVOTEE TO FOOL, NOT METo me you are The worst of the three,because you make people trust you and then without any feeling of remorse, BETRAY YOUR WHOLE IDEA WAS TO FIND OUT WHO I AM AND THEN MAKE PEOPLE ABUSE ME. YOU WANT YOUR MOLESTER GURU TO ESCAPE. RAMAKRISHAN PARAMAHAMSA USED TO SAY THAT BETRAYAL OF TRUST IS THE WORST OF ALL SINS AND YOU HAVE TRUCK LOADS OF IT . ENJOY THE FRUITS.
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11-26-2006 08:27 AM ET (US)
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/m1304Why are talking about the smell in your mouth start eating from the correct end, it won't smell. only baba likes your smell. PIGS OF THE SAME MUCK COME TOGETHER.
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11-26-2006 09:00 AM ET (US)
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/m1305/m1252Angel you called me a liar /m1257 and now you are changing. You have no proof that i posted in different names, but are you serious about knowing the truth.NO All you do is accuse Anti babas of being liars and so many things. jump off. ____________________ usedbybaba. Again ,no i did not call you a liar.So, stop LYING about it. I never said you're lying regarding SB. You might get a perception that i don't trust you,but that's only due to you posting under various usernames.I can't take you seriously,but others might.I don't know what the truth is regarding your story. You have your opinion and that's fine. What i did say is that you're lying and obviously you did and you are about Joe posting porn links in ssb2. /m1252I don't get you,you're upset cause i called you a liar for making lies and posting porn links claiming it was Joe who posted them in SSB2 yahoo group group THIS: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/sathyasaibaba2/message/53282was not posted by Joe,but in this quicktopic board you are lying /m1307 and claiming Joe is posting those porn links
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11-26-2006 09:11 AM ET (US)
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I did not call her bastard but she has.But the angelic neuteral is not finding anything wrong. ___________ but that's between you and her.It has nothing to do with me. But to tell you the truth i don't like rudeness ,especially nasty perversions like this /m847
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11-26-2006 09:14 AM ET (US)
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/m1308When your friend joe says that sanjay is or was interested in jesus pron you have no problems " ___________ Angel :why would i have problems? Then shut up when I write about Lisa and Joe and don't call me a liar. __________ i never did.
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11-26-2006 09:27 AM ET (US)
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/m1308Then when I was wrtting again about baba and my point of view, especialy about "My Life is my message" You rummaged through the two months old mails and pasted them .WHY ? _________ why not?It's you who posted them. To me you are The worst of the three,because you make people trust you and then without any feeling of remorse, BETRAY YOUR WHOLE IDEA WAS TO FIND OUT WHO I AM AND THEN MAKE PEOPLE ABUSE ME. YOU WANT YOUR MOLESTER GURU TO ESCAPE. RAMAKRISHAN PARAMAHAMSA USED TO SAY THAT BETRAYAL OF TRUST IS THE WORST OF ALL SINS AND YOU HAVE TRUCK LOADS OF IT . ENJOY THE FRUITS. ________________ Sai Baba is not my guru. Make people Trust me? Why would anyone have to trust me? I have nothing interesting to say.I just make an observation every now and then. You're the one with interesting story to tell,not me,why would you have to trust (me),a person that you called a pedophile for no reason. I'm entitled to my opinion and whether i trust you or not is my thing. I'll never call you a liar,because as i already said, hypothetically speaking you could be telling the truth.But what do i know.
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11-26-2006 09:35 AM ET (US)
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11-26-2006 09:52 PM ET (US)
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/m1306On the contrary, it is YOU who is getting nervous because so many people are seeing through your lies. And like the pervert that you are, you childishly resort to calling people pedophiles etc. without proof or conscience. Face it used buddy, it's obvious you have NO conscience. You have NO moral code. You're not fooling anyone used buddy except maybe yourself. You can play your childish mind games all you want but all you are doing is showing how low you will go. All you can do is babble without proof. You are full of hot air.
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11-26-2006 10:50 PM ET (US)
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/m1309Usedbybaba, you are talking like a pervert again. I guess you have been doing it for so long you cannot see your own perversion for what it is. You keep conveniently forgetting that you were the one who started the abuse to begin with. And then, like the coward that you are, you lie about it and try to play the victim when, in fact, you are the perpetrator. You are not going to get away with your lies used buddy. You are going to be held accountable.
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11-27-2006 12:19 AM ET (US)
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/m1311Hilarious hypocrisy coming from usedbybaba when he calls Sai Baba a b*****d and then whines like a crybaby when he gets a taste of his own pervert medicine. Then on top of it the wacko goes around calling people pedophiles, etc. and then tries to act like he is some kind of saint or something. What a nutjob. The guy is so looney and irrational it is pathetic. By the way, notice I called him "fish feces" which fits him VERY well since ONLY bottom feeders would want him.
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11-27-2006 01:17 AM ET (US)
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Looks like Sai Baba's mother, Easwaramma, was a liar. What was all that guff about a ball of blue light rolling into her? Her own sister contradicts her story, stating that Easwaramma spoke only about a "luminescence" that "merged" in some river water. Bearing in mind that she was extremely thirsty on a very hot day, is it likely that what she saw was some type of mirage or hallucination?
And then why the fancy story about blue light which she told in her son's presence? By this time she had obviously been trained to tow the party line, actively promoting her inbred son as an avatar on top of his own vainglorious self-promotion.
One thing I'd like to know, what's the big deal about insisting that he was born in Puttaparthi when he was born in Karnatanagapalli? Is it really so hard to tel the truth? What's going on that we don't know about?
I'd like answers from genuine Sai devotees who are generally a bunch of nice folks, not dogs and monkeys like Lisa De Witt and Gerald 'Joe' Moreno. They need not reply.
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11-27-2006 02:06 AM ET (US)
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Here we go again. Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") now claims that Easwaramma is a liar. Just like he said Baba's sister was a liar, Kasturi was a liar, LIMF is "bullshit", Sai Devotee's engage in "self-serving reasoning" and all their experiences are to be taken "with a pinch of salt". Then when it comes to Sangay's "exposes", he wholly relies on Sai Devotee accounts and their books! lol When it comes to the miracles in the Srimad Bhagavatam or the Ramayana, however, Sanjay is right there defending those miracles as actual, historical and bona-fide events! Sanjay, worshiped any girly and gay gods recently? :-)
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11-27-2006 02:19 AM ET (US)
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If Sanjay spent half as much time speculating about why he himself lies so much, he might actually get somewhere in life. I've never seen so many busybodies who are avoiding their own messes by minding everyone elses business but their own. Talk about codependence.
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11-27-2006 04:24 AM ET (US)
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ANGEL: why are you lying? lying is wrong.Don't do that.
THESE IS YOUR WORDS. YOU SAY YOU NEVER CALLED ME A LIAR.JOKE
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11-27-2006 04:28 AM ET (US)
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PEDOLISA I NEVER CALLED YOU BASTARD. IT IS BETWEEN ME AND BABA.I HAVE MY EXPERIENCE AND YOU NEED NOT ACT LIKE YOU ARE A PET OF BABA.
BABA IS A BASTARD AND I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU AND YOUR MERCENARIES THINK.AFTERALL YOU ARE A MOLESTOR AND PEDOPHILE WHO DROOL FOR BABA, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT YOU.GO SUCK WHAT YOU WANT AND ENJOY. YOU AND YOUR MOESTOR GURU WILL MEET AGAIN IN HELL.
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11-27-2006 05:07 AM ET (US)
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FORGET IT ANGEL.I DON'T TRUST YOU. I DON'T CARE IF YOU TRUST ME OR NOT. I DID TRUST YOU IN THE BEGINNING AND wrote many things about baba, but you slowly betrayed me. Who are you to judge me . when i was angry, i did abuse lisa. upset that i had been sincerely writing without knowing the type of creeps that were part of this forum, i stopped for a month or so.Then when i started writing again, i made sure that i never abused anyone. Pedo lisa kept abusing me and you were only behing finding out who iam. I ignored all these and posted many non abusive but logical messages to prove that baba is not an incarnation of God. Joe naver answered me except maybe once or twice. Pedo lisa kept abusing me calling me pervert,bozo,coward etc. I did not retaliate. YOU WERE SOOO UPSET THAT YOU IMMEDIATELY PICKED UP MY ABUSIVE POST FROM THE PAST LIKE A CUNNING FOX TO PROVOKE ME AND JOE TOOK THE CUE. You connected me to every single person who wrote against baba. All for what?? to make sure that i do not continue my messages about baba. The logic was irritating you and your cronies.
WHY THE HELL SHOULD I BE NICE TO A CREEP LIKE YOU??? THAT IS WHY I SAY YOU ARE THE WORST OF THE THREE, AND ALL OF US KNOW YOUR GAME PLAN.SO JUMP OFF AND DON'T REPLY TO MY MAILS.
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11-27-2006 05:23 AM ET (US)
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hypothetically speaking you could be telling the truth.But what do i know.
Angel don't try this blow hot blow cold business. i know you are an important memeber of the pro sai group. for so long "you could not see baba cheating his creations" but now to continue to act as a nuetral, you posted one in the other forum.This is another trick that you are posting. You want people to believe that you are nuetral and these are tricks for the same.Why are you so bothered if i say you are not nuetral. When i have seen crooks like baba,for such a long time you cannot fool me.
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11-27-2006 05:30 AM ET (US)
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/m1317Pedolisa i don't care what you call me but just pointing out the way u abuse me. you are a cheap low class woman who has no way to make money except by praising baba.baba also belongs to the potharaju clan who make a living out of praising local landlords,now he has found you and your mercenary devotees doing the same.so shut up and do your job of supplying children to baba.one day you will be with your baba, behind bars.
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11-27-2006 05:36 AM ET (US)
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Edited by author 11-27-2006 05:36 AM
Joe aka sexybikerbabes060" EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED HAS SENT THIS MESSAGE TO sathyasaibaba2 · Sathya Sai Baba DISCUSSION CLUB IN YAHOO.ONLY YOU AND YOUR BABA WILL ENJOY THESE POSTS Cute Amateur Biker Babes looking for playmate! Check their profiles here: http://www.bestbikerclub.com/bikerpro/sexybikerbabes.htm" HE AND HIS MERCENARY DEVOTESS WANT TO SAVE HIM BY CALLING ME A LIAR. BUT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT HE DID THIS TO DISRUPT THE DISCUSSION,BUT GOT CAUGHT. __ _EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED
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11-27-2006 05:41 AM ET (US)
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But to tell you the truth i don't like rudeness ,especially nasty perversions
Angel i don't like creeps too,who have one agenda at heart and another outside.A typical sai devotee. it is called hypocracy.
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11-27-2006 06:40 AM ET (US)
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ANGEL: why are you lying? lying is wrong.Don't do that. THESE IS YOUR WORDS. YOU SAY YOU NEVER CALLED ME A LIAR.JOKE ____________________ I never called you a liar i never even said you're lying regarding SB. I said you're lying about Joe posting porn links in SSB2,which you CLEARLY /m1310 . are.
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WHY THE HELL SHOULD I BE NICE TO A CREEP LIKE YOU??? THAT IS WHY I SAY YOU ARE THE WORST OF THE THREE ____________________- i don't expect a person that calls me pedophile to be nice to me. you said some really nasty stuff. /m847 .
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11-27-2006 06:50 AM ET (US)
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i know you are an important memeber of the pro sai group. for so long "you could not see baba cheating his creations" but now to continue to act as a nuetral, you posted one in the other forum.This is another trick that you are posting. You want people to believe that you are nuetral and these are tricks for the same.Why are you so bothered if i say you are not nuetral. When i have seen crooks like baba,for such a long time you cannot fool me. ________________ You sound like some 10 year old.Where is your logic? My trick?? Very funny,LOL?
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11-27-2006 06:52 AM ET (US)
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/m1326___________ Are you sure you're 40?
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Usedbybaba you're just upset cause i never said a rude word to you and yet you called me a pedophile /m847 .Which is awful. Please be nice!
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/m1330How convenient.just pick some one's mail and say that it is usedbybaba and then start talking with that assumption. I have consistently told you that i am not these people, but you have ignored all my replies conveniently.you have nothing to say about me,so you find it more convenient to use these messages from some hariharan or someone else and then talk.Is is stupidity or being cunning. You know .I told u i have nothing to do with you.YOU ARE A VERY NICE AND SINCERE PERSON WHO IS NUETRAL OK. Just Leave me alone. you have not abused me (How do I know that you are not Lisa or Joe)but you have with the intention of provoking me copied from very old mails. you are the one who is upset that i am not abusing you. so to give an impression that i abused you you keep calling me hariharan etc., IT WON'T WORKWill you keep quite and start talking sense .NOOOOOOOO that is not your agenda. You are asking whether i am forty. mmm sounds like Lisa. Good to know that you are working well together. How is that when i ask quetions on baba or when i talk baba you don't give a clear answer? oh i forgot, you answered every question of mine sooo sincerely. unfortunately i am the one lying about you, not answering my questions, is it not? oooooooh
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11-27-2006 05:42 PM ET (US)
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/m 1329 See one more trick. He first copied hariharan's mail and then my mail to lisa (not to Angel) and then Anand Krishnamurthi. Now there are two other people,but he smartly gives the credit to me and then posts my mail to Lisa in the middle to give an impression that i had abused him. I HAVE NOT ABUSED YOU AND YOU ARE UPSET.You are not able to copy and paste,and inturn make me irrellevent. Angel, don't hit below the belt.
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11-27-2006 05:45 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 11-27-2006 05:36 AM Joe aka sexybikerbabes060" EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED HAS SENT THIS MESSAGE TO sathyasaibaba2 · Sathya Sai Baba DISCUSSION CLUB IN YAHOO.ONLY YOU AND YOUR BABA WILL ENJOY THESE POSTS Cute Amateur Biker Babes looking for playmate! Check their profiles here: http://www.bestbikerclub.com/bikerpro/sexybikerbabes.htm" HE AND HIS MERCENARY DEVOTESS WANT TO SAVE HIM BY CALLING ME A LIAR. BUT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT HE DID THIS TO DISRUPT THE DISCUSSION,BUT GOT CAUGHT. __ _EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED
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11-27-2006 05:50 PM ET (US)
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aNGEL:You sound like some 10 year old.Where is your logic? My trick?? Very funny,LOL?
USEDBYBABA: This is a good idea.After i write messages after messages how you are not nuetral, you ask quetions like ,where is your logic etc., You sound like a stuanch devotee of baba and nothing else.
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Edited by author 11-27-2006 07:38 PM
/m1319ho ho ho This mercenary devotee of baba has nothing to discuss,so he uses his pimp Lisa to abuse people and provoke people and then copy it for his money making web site. This parasite called Joe is paid servant of Baba.Now he has started campaining for the worst molester and killer called premananda in a hope he can have multiple sources of incomes.Premananda is in an Indian Jail but for Joe the butcher premananda ia a great guru. Joe is always thinking of sex and has posted a porno message in the yahoo forum.see /m1335
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