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CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1600
12-22-2006 12:58 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-24-2008 03:04 AM
/m1598

See, the dork is still trying to dictate even how people use their computers! Pathetic isn't it?

Get over it crybaby. Go whine to your mommy. I'm tired of your childish drooling. Or better yet, go see a shrink. You seem to have some VERY serious control issues. Your nosiness is most likely tied to your obsessive desire to boss everyone around.

And don't forget your cowardly accusers are ALL grown men who are LIARS. The then Prime Minister of India even said so. If it weren't true the accusers could have easily sued him and the other two former Supreme Court Justices who signed onto his statement. The fact that they didn't (and didn't even raise a protest) speaks VOLUMES. Get real bozo. You are living in Lala Land.

And no, it's NOT my "opinion". It's FACT based on my own observations and DOCUMENTATION. Too bad you don't know the difference, ignoramus. Like I said, you are too dumb to try to play legal expert. Go play with your pink dollies and leave the judging to law enforcement. Your journalists are flunkies who need some serious help for not seeing what liars you guys are, especially when your lies are documented all over the internet.

Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1599
12-22-2006 12:05 AM ET (US)
Ah yes, and don't forget what Mr. Tigrett said. He said it all, y'know. :-)
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1598
12-22-2006 12:04 AM ET (US)
I'd appreciate it if you didn't edit your posts significantly after the fact to include new information that you didn't think of entering on your first attempt. I will respond how I was going to. In response to this:

"Like you, the media is a joke going nowhere fast ... You're not going anywhere so quit kidding yourself bozo. Why can't you dummies get it through your heads that your accusers are LYING?"

But that's your biased opinion, Lisa. :-) You are biased because you are a devotee/follower of Sai Baba and that makes you partial to him. You have not regarded any of the allegations with a neutral mind since the beginning. And your opinion is not enough to prove Sai baba's innocence. :-)

As for your ridiculous claims about making the media a joke, and having egg on our faces, this only reveals the depths of denial that you have buried your head in. If you seriously think that it has been possible to delude and lie to world-class newspapers, UNITED NATIONS branches, TWO world-class television broadcasters, various University Chancellors, etc etc etc - you are living in cloud cuckoo land. Enjoying the show? We certainly are. :-)
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1597
12-21-2006 11:42 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-22-2006 03:19 AM
Blah, blah, blah, blah. Like you, the media is a joke going nowhere fast. You guys are doing a great job making naive journalists look like fools (by sucking them into your anti-Sai web of obsessive hysteria and lies), I'll give you that. Six years you have been babbling like this and still you sound as desperate and as deluded as you did four years ago when I came onto the scene. You're not going anywhere so quit kidding yourself bozo. Why can't you dummies get it through your heads that your accusers are LYING? Investigate all you want (six years and counting and nothing to show for it but egg on your faces, remember?). The more you do, the more foolish you look as your idiocy is exposed for all to see. I'm enjoying the show.

Once again, look in the mirror dumbo. EVERY post of yours is nothing but ad hominem hypocrisy. And get over yourself. You're not smart enough to be judging anyone else. You can't even follow your own standards you try to force on everyone else. You are pathetic.
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1596
12-21-2006 10:59 PM ET (US)
Lisa, stop trying to make proofless claims. I can very easily document a huge number of your own lies and very easily label you as a pathological liar.

How can I make it any clearer to you? Your tactics are not going to halt the wave of public and media investigation into Sai Baba that he has brought upon himself thanks to his ceaseless need for self-promotion. Your diversionary ad-hominem attacks will not work either. Give it up.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1595
12-21-2006 10:44 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-04-2008 07:17 AM
Sanjay, PLEASE look in the mirror. You are projecting your own garbage onto everyone else as usual. Many people have named you for what you are. A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR. There are TOO many like you in the anti-sai crowd. One can only wonder if it is the drugs, alcohol or both that enable so many of you conscienceless dregs.

How can I make it ANY clearer for you Sinjay? You and Tony BOTH need to STOP using other people in order to avoid your own abusive behavior, lies and PERVERSIONS. Is that clear enough Sinjay? You, like Tony need a Twelve Step program so you can learn to mind your own business instead of everyone elses.

Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1594
12-21-2006 10:28 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-21-2006 10:31 PM
Lisa, please, you have an extremely bad reputation for telling lies and distorting the facts. You need to clarify exactly what you mean when you tell me to "mind my own business". If you are talking about yourself, then fine, because you are an unimportant person and I am not very interested in you anyway.

If you are talking about Sai Baba, then sorry, you are directly encroaching on my rights to freedom of speech. You have no business telling me what I can and can't say about Sai Baba especially since I am in a position to make qualified statements, my being an apostate.

And if you are so concerned with people "nosying" into your private business, you might like to address the question of why you take great delight in "nosying" into the personal and private lives of Sai Baba's critics as you have been doing without break since 2002.

And yes, you have plenty to hide. The simple fact that you are not courageous enough to clarify your stance in public is proof of this. Unlike Sai Baba's apostates, who have availed themselves to media sources and more, you have hidden behind your computer screen since late 2002 hiding away and running away from direct questions asked of you. You may claim a right to privacy if only you weren't so morbidly interested in violating the privacy of other people. You have forfeited your right to privacy, and you have the audacity to talk of jail when your own slanderous and defamatory abusive statements would institutionalise you, never mind jail.

You still haven't learned your lessons and you still continue to engage in the same behaviour without break, just as you will continue to do so in future. At the end of the day you are to be ignored, because even Sathya Sai Baba does not recognise you. Have fun with that.
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1593
12-21-2006 10:24 PM ET (US)
Meera, regarding your question about the identity of Shirdi/Sathya Sai Babas, you may be interested in some research that I've done. This is the index page here.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1592
12-21-2006 10:23 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-21-2006 10:25 PM
I don't have anything to hide (again, it's none of your business pervert). You, like Tony, need to start learning to mind your own abusive behavior and perversions instead of everyone elses business and I'm telling it LIKE it is NOSY.
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1591
12-21-2006 10:20 PM ET (US)
Ok, it's none of my business? LOL, at least you are now de facto admitting that you have something to hide. After all, you are the first devotee/nondevotee who does not have the courage to publicly clarify their position.

In any case, what I have said about you and Joe is still true: You are unauthorised "spokespersons" for Sai Baba and/or his organisation and nobody with any measure of intelligence would or should give you the time of day. Thank you for confirming all of this in public, the fact that you have something to hide.
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1590
12-21-2006 10:18 PM ET (US)
And there we go with the racist "white men" thing again, racial ethnicities that Lisa has a great problem with. And more lies about the Alaya Rahm court case; it "flopped" for very good legal reasons and not at all why the unauthorised SB-defenders are saying.

It comes to some measure of pathetic-ness when even senior devotees like Tigrett confess on TV that Sai Baba is a serial sex abuser and it wouldn't make any difference to them. Nor ar epolice investigations welcome, because they are "internal matters" that do not require police investigation! Try saying that to the media in a First World country and let's see what happens.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1589
12-21-2006 10:16 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-21-2007 05:46 AM
/m1588

Yes you are Sanjay. You can't even quote what I said about devotees so you are a LYING pervert.

Read my lips: It's NONE of your business PERVERT (Sinjay will drive himself crazy over this because he is so addicted to sticking his big nose where it doesn't belong).
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1588
12-21-2006 10:15 PM ET (US)
Lisa, I am not lying about anything and I have even asked you to direcrly confirm your statements in the past, which you have never done. If you have stated it as many times as you claim, you can now confirm it once and for all so that it can be up for posterity and your position clear.

Are you a devotee of Sai Baba? Just answer a simple 'yes' or 'no'.

It wouldn't matter much anyway because then there would be further questions as to your motivations in defending Sai Baba and smearing his critics in the horribly abusive way you have been doing since 2002.

No fear, Gerald Moreno is also in the same boat. He has made contradictory statements and cannot make up his mind either, about whether he is Sai Baba's devotee or not. How hilarious and ironic, Sai Baba's biggest defenders are not even his devotees (or so they claim). At least I have the open courage to publicly state my position. Lisa, do yourself a favour and follow Sai Baba's own words as I recently posted. You would be much better off silent because even Sai Baba has explicitly stated that he doesn't need or want anyone to defend him. You and your colleagues are persona non grata where SB is concerned but you may get a free car sometime in the future.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1587
12-21-2006 10:10 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-24-2008 03:37 AM
/m1576

You are LYING as usual Tony baloney. Not one of the GROWN men who are accusing Sai Baba were or are MAN enough to file charges in India like any other law abiding citizen must do in any other country as well. Once again your racist-sounding drivel betrays you for what you are. Not to mention that MOST of you are WHITE men who were raised Catholic.

And the Indian government certainly wasn't controlling the court here when Alaya Rahm's lawsuit FLOPPED because he LIED about having witnesses who would back up his tale of woe and his own public speeches reveal him to be a liar. You people need HELP Tony. Talk about "true believer" syndrome.


Dream on Tony. You need to see a shrink so you can learn to see PAST your LIES to REALITY. Twelve Steps, Tony. Twelve Steps to minding your OWN business.


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1586
12-21-2006 09:50 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-21-2006 09:53 PM
Sanjay you are lying again. Even if you had paid attention to my statements about the devotee thing I'm sure you would still be lying about me like you lie about pretty much everything else.

The truth is, it is none of your business anyway, especially considering your continuous perversions and abusive behavior. This is all you can come up with since you are so desperate and such an immature adolescent who just can't grow up.

Mind your own business pervert before you end up in jail(/m272).
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1585
12-21-2006 09:13 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-21-2006 09:27 PM
/m1584

Well whoever you are (probably the other multiple personality, and drunk, like Tony, usedcrybaby), MIND your own business. You anti-Sais have more skeletons in your closet than graves have bones so you should keep your hypocritical mouth shut. Go play in your sand box with the other five year olds who are like you.

Why are the anti-sais all such a bunch of drunken game players?

Here's how Tony the phony talks, You still want to defend him?

I was holding the candle but he liked the shape,
so he grabbed it and stuck it
up his arse.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sathyasaibab...onclub/message/4559

Hi there,
Stand in front of the mirror masturbating and
think of sb, really think hard about him doing
fellatio on you. You will first notice a big pair
of rubber lips appearing in the astral then sb
will be with
you, inviting you to pn so you can be anally
penetrated.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sathyasaibaba2/message/24890

So now pull your pants down and let god do
fellatio and anal penetration on you with his
golden lingam.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sathyasaibaba2/message/24911


And then there's saibabaexposed aka Sanjay Dadlani aka Ekantik (/m272).

Why are you defending perverts Meera? Are you a pervert too?
Meera  1584
12-21-2006 09:08 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-21-2006 09:08 PM
I am surprised that you are calling me Tony.I am not. My name is Meera Powar from Maharashtra.I live in Mumbai. We are devotees of Shirdi sai Baba. I have neighbours who are Sathya Sai devotees who claim the both Sais are the same.I find it difficult to agree but ready to accept it, if it is proved true.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1583
12-21-2006 09:02 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 08-02-2008 03:44 AM
Tony's problem is that he thinks he is a wannabe role model and guru who has multiple personalities (like Raghav, Juan, edgarj, sivatayi_2000, humanzee, etc.) he just cannot keep under control when someone tells the truth about him. Yet Tony is very content to lie about others and play his childish mind games on the internet.

Tony's just mad because I know the truth about him and what a phony he is.


The BIG difference between Tony and I is I can actually back up MOST of my statements with documented facts whereas Tony spouts lies like there is no karma. I also spend much of my time judging people in order to help them get over severe illnesses whereas Tony judges people for pure vindictiveness and because he is a nutter of negativity who is addicted to it like he is alcohol.
Meera  1582
12-21-2006 08:58 PM ET (US)
Joe 108
I was never a devotee and I do not know much about him,except for the fact that I keep reading both positive and negative about him,in the press,T.V and now in the net. I hope you can tell me more postive things about Baba. I am a shirdi devotee to an extent.I want to know if Sathya sai and Shidi sai are the same.Just curious.
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1581
12-21-2006 08:57 PM ET (US)
Meera you are right. Just see what Sai Baba has to say about such "devotees":

"It is no use indulging in arguments and disputations; he who clamours aloud has not grasped the truth, believe Me. Silence is the only language of the realised. Practise moderation in speech. That will help you in many ways. It will develop love, for most misunderstandings and factions arise out of carelessly spoken words. When the foot slips, the wound can be healed; but when the tongue slips, the wound it causes in the heart of another will fester for life. The tongue is liable to four big errors; uttering falsehood, scandalising, finding fault with others and excessive articulation. These have to be avoided if there has to be peace for the individual as well as for society."

- Divine Discourse, 12 July 1958.
And people like Lisa De Witt are now trying to deny their devotion and pretend that they are not devotees. They run away from direct questions but don't mind flinging mad and making gutter-standard attacks in direct defiance of Sai baba's words. Oh well,... Tigrett says that the allegations of sexual abuse are true, and even suggested that Sai Baba has murderous tendencies which he would totally ignore. What more is needed to prove that this is a dangerous cult where all forms of common human morals and decency are blunted and erased out of existence?
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1580
12-21-2006 08:47 PM ET (US)
Poor poor Gerald Morneo, burying his head so far down into the sand that he no longer has a grip on reality. With the huge number of media articles, organisational pullouts, US State Dept travel advisories, two television documentaries, possible (British) governmental controversies, plus the fact that Sai Baba and/or his organisaiton are on the watchlists of almost every country, Gerald Moreno and his gang are still quibbling about how he hasn't been convicted.

Talk about swimming against the current. :-)
Meera  1579
12-21-2006 08:42 PM ET (US)
Lisa,you are only spoiling your health.In just three messages you have abused more.What is the point of abusing so much.See for yourself.O Baba
help her.This is too much. If you want to discuss,you should,But abuses make us very uncomfortable.I again copy your writing for your own review.

your foul and perverted
mouth
cowards
crybabies
perverts
liars
Tony's garbage
Tony how many times he has cheated on his wife,
done illegal drugs, etc.
badly in need of
anti-depressant
garbage
dirty thoughts
LIARS
inveterate liar
pathological liars
Your big ol' ego
stubborn
Meera  1578
12-21-2006 01:07 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-21-2006 01:08 PM
These are few abuses used by co2000 to abuse Tony in just three or four days.If someone abuses in a discussion,It means she/he does not have any matter to discuss.Her abues are below for all to see:

"phony.
complete idiocy or your inherent white supremacist tendencies
liar.
deaf, dumb and blind (as USUAL) to get it
lying, brain dead wannabe intellectual
irresponsible idiocy,
obsessive-compulsive disorder for stupidity.
Bozo
nutter of negativity
negative pretender
so dense (and evil)
YOUR rotten fruits
Pathetic
Babble
dumbo.
You are a disgusting excuse for a human being
Nutbal
idiotic little mind games? Only the ignorant and brain dead will fall for your evasive maneuvering
hypocrite supreme
sewerbrained pervert
braindead
DUMB it is criminal
school drop out
liars like you
perverts
sewerbrain supreme
disgusting potty
Perverts Anonymous.
big mouthed defamer


We see that you have a hatered for Anti sai Baba people,but is it not right to just talk instead of pouring out all your anger and calling them names.Are you trying to prove the Anti babas right???
Tony O'Clery  1577
12-21-2006 12:18 PM ET (US)
Lisa de Witt's problem is that she is a minor guru to her friends and 'followers' and she uses sb as her credibility. So she cannot admit what she really in her heart knows--sb is a criminal fraud.
Tony O'Clery  1576
12-21-2006 11:30 AM ET (US)
As is evidenced from the BBC url, the Govt and Courts of India are in the hands of the corrupt and super rich. sb is regarded as a contributor to political coffers, a deliverer of local votes, a creator of foreign currency imports etc etc. Many of the politicians are corrupt and sexual deviants, some like Rao were even convicted it was so bad. sb's paranormal abilities which he learned from his tantric conjurer uncle are just low level tricks that's all as any examination of the videos will show.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1575
12-21-2006 04:39 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-04-2008 07:06 AM
/m1565

You're living in your David Icke Wonderland as usual Tony the phony. The government of India considers Sai Baba a national security asset due to his paranormal abilities which the government has DOCUMENTED for SEVERAL decades. The government has done everything but shout this from the rooftops so the fact that you refuse to see it is a testament to either your complete idiocy or your inherent white supremacist tendencies (or both) which seek to denigrate the Indian government.

And you know exactly what that k-list post has to do with you.

Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1574
12-21-2006 03:19 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 08-02-2008 03:48 AM
/m1567

Yes I have explained my position VERY clearly. Like I said, You are just too deaf, dumb and blind (as USUAL) to get it. You incessantly repeat the same garbage over and over again like you have alzheimers disease. It is REALLY a bore dealing with such a lying, brain dead wannabe intellectual who is lucky he can remember his own name and go to the bathroom by himself and has to have everything explained to him a thousand times (AND HE STILL DOESN'T GET IT!). I'm not going to waste my time on your irresponsible idiocy, especially when you continue to repeat the same idiocies and lies over and over again like you have an obsessive-compulsive disorder for stupidity.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1573
12-21-2006 02:55 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 08-02-2008 03:42 AM
/m1568


Since when is it a law that says miracles must be validated by science bozo? You idiots can't even follow your own standards and get one of your accusers to file a lawsuit or charges so who can take you seriously?

I don't need to explain Baba's miracles. I have experienced them PERSONALLY from a distance. I have tested Baba's omniscience and he has proven it to me so tough luck, nutter of negativity. And I certainly don't owe a negative pretender like YOU an explanation. You wouldn't know a miracle if it hit you in the head you are so dense. By their fruits we shall KNOW them and we can SEE what YOUR rotten fruits (/m272) are fruity boy with the jesus porn and boot fetishes with misogynistic overtones. Pathetic that you try to lecture people the way you do when you are such a low life. Unfortunately you are the one who is so brainwashed by your own egoism and negativity it does not surprise me that you babble the way you do. Remember dork, YOU are the one who babbles like a brainwashed devotee on your blog and yahoogroup when you obviously have absolutely NO spiritual experiences to back up your babble. All of your incessant babble outside your devotee group about God and miracles is negativity to the nth degree. You've stabbed EVERY guru you've claimed to follow in the back bozo.

In short, YOU are the biggest phony there is with your pretense of being a Krishna devotee when you don't even believe God incarnates in human, a major precept of Hinduism.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1572
12-21-2006 01:18 AM ET (US)
Poor, Poor Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED"). With all of his "proof", even from devotees, Anti-Sai Activists have done absolutely nothing with it and Sathya Sai Baba has never been charged with any crime! No one has even tried to charge him. Keep spewing your rhetorical slop on these boards Sanjay. Nobody believes you despite your gnashing of teeth, breast-beating, foaming at the mouth and loud wailing :-)

Sad? Isn't it?

Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1571
12-20-2006 11:50 PM ET (US)
Either Joe108 doesn't understand English or he has reading problems. In my last post I (indirectly) quoted two newspaper articles to support my "views", what to speak of quoting Tigrett himself - a longtime close devotee of Sai Baba who was the biggest funder of SSB's hospital.

Secondly, this is not even a discussion. Joe108 (and his colleagues) are neither devotees (so they claim) nor are they spokespersons for SSB and/or his Organisation. Therefore there is no need and no use of engaging in any form of discussion with them considering that they have nothing interesting to say, and only repeat the same turgid ad-hominem nonsense and spamming of their defamatory and slanderous links.

Joe108, you were served with a 48-hour block (suspended) on Wikipedia due to your disruptive editing and personal attacks. I know what you are trying to do; despite your stern warning, you are still misrepresenting me and my comments, least of all the fact that you were told that off-wiki discussions/websites are not within the purview of Wikipedia matters. Your incorrigible attempts to goad me are not going to work, even though it is fully consistent with your defamatory and slanderous behaviour over the course of over 12 months.

Remember, you are the one who started the hostilities with no good reason. That is an irrefutable fact. And Sathya Sai Baba is widely reported as a serial sex abuser, a paedophile, a murderer, and much more. Despite your plaintive claims about no convictions (which you are also being intellectually dishonest about) it is not going to change the minds of normal people who have all placed SSB firmly in their "no-no list", when this knowledge has made a full entry into the mainstream consciousness. Tough luck, you can't do anything about it except weep.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1570
12-20-2006 11:27 PM ET (US)
Sanjay Dadlani's (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") has no proof to support any of his claims. Long, boring and rambling diatribes are Sanjay's only defence! lol Now Sanjay is claiming that he has suppressed information about Tigrett. Do the lies ever end? Just as Sanjay claimed he has suppressed information about me posting on teen porn sites which he adamantly refuses to substantiate in any manner, fashion or form! No one can believe a proven liar.

Come on Sanjay, you aren't fooling anyone. No court cases filed in India, no police complaints filed in India, no first-hand efforts to even try to file a court case or complaint in India. The tide has turned and the crabs are scattering with their pinchers raised aloft.

re /m1555 Sanjay said:
"Sai Baba is certainly not divine, especially as his closest followers see nothing wrong if he sexually abuses little children and murders people."

Now he is saying, "I didn't say that he was a murderer per se."

As I said, "...with their pinchers raised aloft." The equivocation never stops.

Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1569
12-20-2006 10:23 PM ET (US)
I didn't say that he was a murderer per se. My opinion of his murderous tendencies is based on Isaac Tigrett's statement in the BBC documentary which is irrefutable. Tigrett specifically said this out of his own mouth with no prompting, especially when the question was about serial sex abuse and paedophilia.

It is ludicrous to not suspect Sai Baba of murder given the ample evidence of his being privy to the whole affair in 1993, which took place in his own inner apartments. He doesn't need to actually murder people with his own hand, the simple fact that murders, rapes and suspicious deaths occurring in and around his ashram are reported in newspapers is enough to surmise that he has done absolutely nothing by way of internal or external investigation. He has never co-operated with the authorities and his own deputy at the time (Indulal Shah) specifically told the media:
"The matter is purely internal and we do not wish to have any law enforcement agency investigating into it." - The Hindu, July 10th 1993

This is all one needs to know that the Sai Organisation (operating under Sai Baba's direct control) carries out actions that are incredibly suspicious and questionable at best. Only recently an unnamed Sai official stated, "We do not care" about the US State Dept Travel Advisory for India. 'Nuff said.
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1568
12-20-2006 08:04 PM ET (US)
I forgot to respond to this /m1560:

"I don't know ANY street magicians who can communicate with millions of people around the world in their dreams or appear to them in their homes, Sanjay. I don't know ANY street magicians who can build free hospitals for the poor and provide drinking water to those in India who have none. I don't know ANY street magicians who have HUNDREDS of books written about them and are regarded as an Avatar because of their "magical feats". I don't know ANY street magicians who have heads of state from NUMEROUS countries asking their advice on how to solve world problems.

"In short, Sanjay you are being VERY disingenuous (as usual) when you describe Sai Baba's abilities. This doesn't surprise those who know what a liar and SUPERFICIAL, phony person you are."


This is the type of crap that gets spouted out when brainwashed followers don't have a clue how to explain his "miracles". Whenever it suits them, they yabber-yabber on and on about how great and fantastic and wonderful his miracles are, and as soon as it is pointed out that all his little tricks can be replicated even by corner-street magicians (even I can hide vibhuti tablets between my fingers, duh), they promptly change tack and shift the focus onto his welfare activities that anyone with money can do and is not proof of divinity.

And then we talk about the supposed paranormal experiences - have any of these experiences been scientifically and independently verified? Even Erlender Haraldsson was able to uncover that the "ressurection" of Walter Cowan was disingenuous, but still the myth is perpetuated without the least effort to get it corrected. We are not interested in the psychoactive and hallucinatory experiences of brainwashed devotees, and we ar enot interested in welfare works either. We are concerned that Sai Baba is claiming to be God when he has nothing to support his position, and is abusing his position to rape little children and murder dissidents. That's it.

Don't try those lame bait-and-switch tactics with me. Sai Baba's "miracles" can be replicated by any street magician and you know it. Now tell me how building a hospital and providing drinking water is proof that he is God. :-)
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1567
12-20-2006 07:56 PM ET (US)
And by the way, Tigrett also agrees that Sai Baba can murder people and it wouldn't change a thing for him. What more proof do you need that this is a dangerous cult where the followers don't seem to have any sort of moral scruples, and who walk around like zombies with money? They will willingly turn a blind eye to Sai Baba's paedophilia and murderous acts while continuing to kiss his smelly feet and receive crushed ash tablets (burnt cow dung) direct from his unholy hands.

The only thing that the zombies can repeat is that he has never been convicted, never received a complaint, blah blah blah, when the allegations published in world-class newspapers and broadcast agencies (BBC etc) influence NORMAL people to put Sai Baba on their "no-no list".

Lisa, stop lying. You have never clarified your position as a devotee. If you claim to have done it hundreds of time, you won't mind saying it once more so I can record it for posterity. Bear in mind that I can see your posts on several yahoogroups that will leave one in no doubt that you are utterly devoted to a smelly old whellchair faggot who rapes children and murders people, and which Tigrett doesn't care about even if it happens in front of his own eyes. "Ah, it is just an anal sex leela... oh there he goes again doing a murdering leela, how sublimely divine!"
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1566
12-20-2006 07:50 PM ET (US)
As I have been repeating over and over again (as seems to be usual to get Gerald Moreno to understand things), we have information on Isaac Tigrett that is not in the public domain and thus it is inappropriate to reveal. Suffice to say, Tigrett knew full well what he was saying to the BBC reporters, and it has nothing to do with being "influenced" by the Rahm family.

The trouble with cowboys like Gerald Moreno (and his sidekick Lisa) is that they were not around at the time when all of these things were breaking out, and they were not even privy to discussions that were going on at the time, much less discussions going on between devotees and former devotees. How terribly ironic that all their information is sourced by us (ALL of their "conclusions" arise from fetid speculating over information from OUR websites) and they think they know it all. Among a number of things, it makes us laugh. And laughing is all we seem to be doing these days, especially when Sai Baba is getting exposed all over the place and even his top-ranking devotees agree with us. :-)

Now Gerald Moreno is resorting to lies and personal remarks about supposed emails he has received form GD, a forum that is not even operational any more! LOL! Such off-wiki personal attacks may be considered aggravating factors in Wikipedia dispute rsolutions, especially since Gerald Moreno has been blocked for 48-hours (suspended) for disruptive editing and personal attacks.
Tony O'Clery  1565
12-20-2006 06:45 PM ET (US)
One day the truth will be allowed to reach the courts of India and even the rats in the Parliament will desert the criminal, murderer, pedophile, embezzler, imposter and fraud conjururer of puttaparthi. The he will have the prisoners practising their deviant sexuality on him --sb for a change.

Mind you he may die first, he is pretty decrepit for 78 years of age. I doubt he'll make it to his mid nineties, as he has prophesied.sic.

I don't claim to be a great writer or a great anything, and what has the reference to the k-list got to do with me?
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1564
12-20-2006 04:37 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-04-2008 06:49 AM
/m1562

Look in the mirror Tony. You are the "wannabe writer" and a crappy one at that. Those people actually had their books published by reputable companies, unlike you who has to resort to self-publishing.

Some day you will pay for your slurs and lies. Some day the truth will come out about you and your sordid past.


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
Tony O'Clery  1563
12-20-2006 12:00 PM ET (US)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6190417.stm

Is it possible one of the most corrupt judicial systems in the world is turning a corner? Perhaps there is hope to get sb into the dock.
Tony O'Clery  1562
12-20-2006 11:17 AM ET (US)

'Take care of them' sb said as he ordered the extra judicial killing of the boys at the ashram--dead boys tell no tales.

Most devotee writers are frustrated wannabees and this is a way to sell their crappy books. Like the dogs in India that stand on the pigs back and eat the poop as it emerges.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1561
12-20-2006 02:12 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-20-2006 02:24 AM
/m1559

Good, God only knows what evil and sordid things Sanjay is involved that could hurt people.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1560
12-20-2006 01:57 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-24-2008 03:09 AM
/m1555

Sinjay, I NEVER claimed I was or wasn't a devotee! You people are the ones who continuously claim that just because someone believes in Sai Baba they MUST be a devotee so you are babbling like a dunderhead as usual. I've stated my position about the devotee thing but as usual you are too deaf, dumb and blind to see it. I'm not going to repeat myself as I have had to HUNDREDS of times because you are so dishonest and dense.

And you should learn to mind your OWN sordid behavior pervert (/m272). WHY on earth would anyone who is SANE listen to a hypocritical wacko like you anyway? As I have also said many times, you have absolutely NO business judging anyone when your own behavior is so CRIMINAL in itself. Now get outta my face bozo. You are too dishonest to even deal with and I am tired of wasting my time on you. I'm not buying into your idiotic guilt games.

Read again what i said about Tigrett, dummy. Nobody has EVER been convicted in a court of law based on someone's beliefs (roll eyes). The fact that you keep bringing up such idiocy just proves over and over how dense you are. I wish you could understand just how dumb you are Sanjay. People are also sending me comments about you as well as other anti-Sais and their idiocy.

The anti-Sais have been regurgitating this same tired garbage for SIX years now. WHY? Because they cannot find one CREDIBLE accuser, witness or shred of EVIDENCE with which to build their case. WHY? Because there isn't any. WHY? Because this is a whisper campaign based on smoke and mirrors. It is a house of cards that falls down as soon as you blow on it. The anti-Sais have been trying to act like legal experts when they are nothing of the sort.

I don't know ANY street magicians who can communicate with millions of people around the world in their dreams or appear to them in their homes, Sanjay. I don't know ANY street magicians who can build free hospitals for the poor and provide drinking water to those in India who have none. I don't know ANY street magicians who have HUNDREDS of books written about them and are regarded as an Avatar because of their "magical feats". I don't know ANY street magicians who have heads of state from NUMEROUS countries asking their advice on how to solve world problems.

In short, Sanjay you are being VERY disingenuous (as usual) when you describe Sai Baba's abilities. This doesn't surprise those who know what a liar and SUPERFICIAL, phony person you are.


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Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1559
12-19-2006 11:34 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-19-2006 11:37 PM
Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED"), and what proof did Tigrett provide? It is clear that Tigrett was influenced by Alaya Rahm's claims because Tigrett knew the Rahm family well. Today, however, I seriously doubt Tigrett would say he believes Alaya Rahm. The fact remains that what Tigrett believed (past tense) is not "proof" of sexual abuse. No one can argue guilt based on what other's believe or infer based on what they have heard. If you believe that (which obviously you do) I feel sorry for you.

You have the shameless audacity to say that SSB "murdered" people. You are a big fat liar and everyone knows about it. The more you say, the more and more you are being exposed. I received another email from a past GD member who was thoroughly shocked about your online behavior. Tsk. Needless to say, rumor has it that it has hit Bhaktivedanta Manor as well...again. Tsk.

Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1558
12-19-2006 11:26 PM ET (US)
Unsubstantiated defamations and libel? LOL, his own top-ranking devotee told TV broadcasters that the allegations are true. What more "proof" do you need? LOL.

Never been proven to be a charlatan? Famous magicians and even street magicians can replicate his "miracles". LOL.

Read the transcript and drown in an ocean of your own tears.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1557
12-19-2006 10:55 PM ET (US)
Sanjay Dadlani's (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") still making his unsubstantiated defamations and libel against Sathya Sai Baba.

Read this and weep, Sanjay:
  • Sathya Sai Baba has never been proven to be a "charlatan".
  • Sathya Sai Baba has never been convicted of any crime.
  • Sathya Sai Baba has never been charged with any crime.
  • Sathya Sai Baba has never had even one single complaint lodged against him by any alleged victim, first-hand, in India. As a matter of fact, not even one alleged victim has even tried to file a basic police complaint or court case against Sathya Sai Baba in India (the only place where courts would have jurisdiction over Baba as an individual defendent).

These are the cold, hard facts and no rationalist, critic, skeptic or ex-devotee can provide a scintilla of verifiable evidence to the contrary.


raghavPerson was signed in when posted  1556
12-19-2006 09:25 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-19-2006 09:29 PM
I am sorry,if i had tried to boss you.That was not my intention.I know how you feel.All i said was, as a devotee we are not to clutter our mind with so many unwanted things. In what way will this help us. If we believe Babaji is divine,he would easily handle these things. Instead of thinking about baba we will be wasting our time talking of other things.I am nobody to tell you anything.obviously,you know better than me. I am 62 and i thought i can just share my view and not boss over you.
SaiRam
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1555
12-19-2006 09:13 PM ET (US)
Lisa, since you are not a Sai devotee (since you do not behave like one nor do you agree with many of his ideas), you are not in a position to describe how Sai devotees should act since you are not a devotee. Furthermore, I am utterly convinced that true devotees of Sai Baba are genuinely good folks (even if they are philosophically ignorant) and this certainly excludes iridescent and irascible people like yourself and Joe108. Truly, Sai Baba is ashamed to have you two for his devotees.

As for Tigrett and his sexual abuse allegations, read it and weep:

0.54.00
Aston
ISAAC TIGRETT
His dad talked to me and I said; look, I, sorry if this happened to your family, to your son, whatever, anyone would be sympathetic, anybody. I said; but it’s not changing my feelings about Sai Baba, it just isn’t.

10.54.15
Tanya Datta
But even if it was proven to you that Sai Baba was a paedophile and a serial sex abuser, you’re saying it wouldn’t change the fact that he is your guru.

10.54.25
Isaac Tigrett
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. He could go out and murder someone tomorrow, as I said, it’s not going to change my evolution, it’s not going to change the good things that have come out of my relationship down there.

10.54.38
Tanya Datta
Does that mean that some part of you believes there could be some truth to the rumours?

10.54.43
Isaac Tigrett
Oh, absolutely I believe there is truth to the rumours.

- From BBC's 'Secret Swamii documentary transcript

Poor devotees (Lisa and Joe), still running around like headless chickens trying to deny everything. Here is a top-ranking leader of the Sai Organisation making a statement to a world-renowned broadcaster that he believes the sexual abuse/murder allegations are true. And please note that facts about Tigrett have been uncovered which fully explain why he believes that they are true. As such information is not yet in the public domain, it would be unwise to broadcast it. :-)

Sai Baba is certainly not divine, especially as his closest followers see nothing wrong if he sexually abuses little children and murders people.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1554
12-19-2006 03:45 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-19-2006 03:52 PM
/m1553

Yeah right, Tony. Sai Baba ALREADY has proved to the world his true nature which is divine. All one has to do is to be HONEST to see it.

And Sai devotees don't go around telling people what to do. That's something (bossing people around) anti-Sais ALWAYS do, not devotees.
raghav  1553
12-19-2006 08:53 AM ET (US)
Sai ram
I am veer raghav from Mysore. Sairam When baba says we need a lot of good karma to know the Avatar, we should be happy that we are able to recognise his glory.baba says 'when ravana kept talking about rama in hatred and anger, he was becoming more closer to Rama,because he was always thinking of Rama.Baba will prove it to the world his real nature.Jai sai ram
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1552
12-19-2006 06:28 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-24-2008 03:31 AM
/m1551

Most likely Tony or another anti-Sai playing childish mind games. The problem with the anti-Sais is they NEVER grow up. They continue to play the same mindless games, hiding behind phony usernames, lies, etc.. They are like hamsters on a treadmill, never getting anywhere. Just going around in circles, doing the same dumb stuff over and over again, expecting things to change.

Even when you tell them CLEARLY why they are failing and show them the DOCUMENTED proof, they STILL are too dumb to get it. They don't come much dumber than this folks.

Tony O'Clery is in his sixties and still acts like a five year old, and a very perverted one at that with all his obsessive babble about sex.



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raghav  1551
12-19-2006 05:02 AM ET (US)
I am a Devotee.As a Devotee, I request devotees of Baba to keep away from these sites.Swami can handle these things.Let us not spoil our minds.Sai ram
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1550
12-19-2006 02:11 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-24-2008 03:29 AM
/m1549

Right Tony baloney and just because some nutball like you says we should believe him doesn't mean we should. Duh. Unfortunately many people are fooled by liars like you and your lowly friends who have "true believer" syndrome. At least now people can see you for what you are and be more careful in the future with just believing any negative accusation without discerning the facts.

The mess you've made will come back to haunt you for many, many lifetimes until you take FULL responsibility for the error of your ways.



Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
Tony O'Clery  1549
12-18-2006 01:29 PM ET (US)
Tigrett on camera has said that he wouldn't be surprised at all if the molestation charges are true. No denial there!!!!

Just because somebody gives away millions doesn't mean they are geniuses. Check their background first.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1548
12-18-2006 02:33 AM ET (US)
Making death threats? Tigrett confirming sexual abuse allegations? Poor Sanjay! These are his ridiculous defences. And when it comes to "gay and girly" Gods, the Bhaktivedanta Manor marble deities that Sanjay bows to and worships as God Incarnate are the very embodiment of "gay and girly"!

See For Yourself.

Sanjay, keep up your drunken clown act. You are making everyone laugh. You are making an utter absurdity out of the Anti-Sai Movement. Good job! lol

CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1547
12-18-2006 02:16 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-24-2008 03:23 AM
/m1546

Yeah right dud boy aka Ekantik, I believe that like I believe you actually have a brain or could tell the truth if your life depended on it.

Not only that but you are sounding more and more like a paranoid schizophrenic with all your babble about death threats.

Unless you have a DOCTOR (other than Bhatia who discredits himself and cannot be considered reliable due to his many contradictions) who can confirm the alleged story about the boy you have NOTHING. Got that air for brains or do you need a picture? Pathetic how stupid and criminally-minded you people are.


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1546
12-17-2006 09:25 PM ET (US)
Oh and by the way, we also don't care if Bhatia still thinks Sai Baba is God. That is his problem, not ours. :-) If he wants to tell the world that he had a sexual relationship with "God", that's none of our business. We only cite this as proof that Sai Baba is sexually active. :-)

Bhatia wrote his book before he confessed to the Telegraph. Oh yes, and we know a few things about Tigrett too. But we can't reveal them because he may sue us, he is really rather rich, ya know! :-) But I will agree with him that he knows exactly what he is talking about. :-)

Oh dear, it's still looking very bad for the girly gay gaandu... I have more pictures of him dressed as a girly gay that I haven't released yet. Wanna see? :-)
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1545
12-17-2006 09:21 PM ET (US)
Ooh dear, not only are the off-wiki attacks getting more aggressive, but Joe108 aka SSS108 aka GERALD 'JOE' MORENO now appears to be making death threats. Tsk tsk.

It's pretty lame trying to use my words against me when I was a devotee. Of course I have no proof that Bhatia molested women since I never caught him in the act. However, I still have documented proof that these stories were being passed around. This documente dproof came to me from a devotee, when I was still a devotee! So tough luck, Bhatia has been the victim of a vicious slander campaign that has no basis in fact.

And what the heck is Lisa aka C02000 aka Freelanceresearch the twit talking about? Several former devotees have personally communicated with Bhatia whereby he confirmed that the anal-raped boy was not 7 years old but in the 7th grade. Big wow, like a few years makes a big difference when Sexy Swami gets out his Sexy Schlong and puts it where it doesn't belong?

We do not care if Joe108 or his partner-in-crime Lisa believe these things, they are not people of importance. We also do not care if they don't believe Mick Brown (Daily Telegraph reporter), who also can corroborate these details after having personally spoken with him. Mick Brown is a regular columnist and reputable journalist, not you sideshow freaks. Tough luck.

Even Isaac Tigrett has confirmed that Sai baba puts his bits where they don't belong, this is the proof.

Tigrett even says that he wouldn't care if "Swami" murdered anyone in front of his own eyes. On a worldwide-broadcasted world-class TV documentary too, ooh dear. Tsk Tsk. What more proof do you need that something is seriously wrong with this brainwashed cult when they have watchdogs like Moreno and De Witt as public spokespersons with their heads thoroughly buried deep int he sand? :-)
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1544
12-17-2006 02:40 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-17-2006 02:49 AM
Alas, Sanjay Dadlani's (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") great "proof" is a link to the ExBaba site that has over a thousand links! Pathetic.

Sanjay flip-flops so often, he is like a fish out of water just waiting to die. Sanjay said:
"Please forgive me Were you present when Dr. Bhatia sexually harassed female doctors, as alleged? No. If not, do you give any credence to this (hearsay) allegation? Why or why not? Yes. Why? Why because I caught him alone in a room with a lady doctor when I went to his department for a blood donation. You should have seen him jump! So when I heard the rumours that he was complained against for harassment, really I was not surprised" (Ref)

"Now: WHO is this child? Is he still there? WHICH two doctors of the hospital examined him? I trust they are still employed? What leads one to think that it was BHATIA who wrote the article, after all the entire testimony is given by an anonymous individual. Why would Bhatia say such things? You do know that he was thrown out of the ashram because of sexual harassment complaints against him by female doctors? You knew that right?" (Ref)

Then Sanjay argued that Bhatia did not molest women and claimed:
"Bhatia did NOT molest women in the hospital he worked in. This is a typical propaganda lie put out by the Sai organisation and, unlike certain people, I have DOCUMENTED PROOF of it. In fact, I'm looking at it right now, LOL. :-)" (Ref)

Say what? Sanjay first argued that Bhatia did molest women and claimed he almost even caught Bhatia in the act. Then Sanjay argued that Bhatia's molestation of women was a "typical propaganda lie put out by the Sai Organization". Don't you just love it when Sanjay calls himself a liar? Sanjay also said he had "DOCUMENTED PROOF" right in front of him. Now Sanjay tells us that the truth is located on the exbaba site (no link provided). Liar!

Sanjay said:
"Whassamatta Joe-boo-boo? No one to lookee-wookee at your sitey-witeys?"

What's wrong Sanjay? Been watching your Looney Tunes and pretending you are Tweety Bird again? rofl

CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1543
12-17-2006 01:48 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-24-2008 03:18 AM
/m1542

Sanjay, why don't you ever stop playing your idiotic little mind games? Only the ignorant and brain dead will fall for your evasive maneuverings. If you are talking about David Bailey's alleged quote from Dr. Bhatia you must be joking! David Bailey is an unreliable SECOND HAND source who quoted the ANONYMOUS letter about Bhatia and it looks like Priddy and others then took that info and put it on their web sites claiming Bailey quoted Bhatia directly! Why can't Bhatia speak for himself? Anybody who uses Bailey as a source needs their head examined.

I think it's funny that Priddy put such an incriminating document on his site which points to the fact that Dr. Bhatia was using the hospital's name to commit some kind of illicit scheme!

Saibabaexposed aka Sanjay Dadlani is ALWAYS sniping about how devotees are liars except for when he wants to use them to smear Sai Baba. In Bhatia's alleged phone interview with Mick Brown, Bhatia said he still believed Sai Baba was God! Dr. Bhatia even went so far as to write a book about his experiences with Sai Baba.
One reviewer on amazon.com wrote,

"This book is most interesting; the part that I like most is where Dr Bhatia asks for the golden pen of Baba's he sees in the dream and asks for it, wherein Baba says 'you greedy fellow' and when he awakes - lo! there's the golden pen on his bed still dripping the ink!"

Editorial Reviews

Book Description
Dr. Bhatia's devotion to God illuminates the pages of this spiritual autobiography. As head of the blood bank at Sathya Sai Baba's Super Specialty Hospital, he has had frequent conversations and experiences that bring Sai Baba's love and grandeur to the reader as few other books have done. Dr. Bhatia has witnessed many breathtaking divine cures of disease which he knew, as a talented physician, lay far beyond the knowledge and skill of the medical profession. What inspires the reader is the author's love of his great master and his sincere understanding of the bhakthi path of love and service to mankind.


And it doesn't matter what Tigrett "says," we've been over this before but Dudlani continues to beat a dead horse because he is desperate. Tigrett was never a witness to any alleged events. Tigrett has ONLY always talked about his miraculous experiences with Sai Baba. There is more incriminating evidence regarding your perversions (/m272) than there are of anything else dud boy so don't forget it.



Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1542
12-16-2006 10:50 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-16-2006 10:51 PM
So not only is Joe108 a liar but he is blind as well. I already said that the proof is on Exbaba and Joe knows it too. I also addressed this topic fully in SSB2 and Joe never responded to it. Talk about diversion..

And what about Isaac Tigrett's statement? No response to that? I wonder why. :-)

And talk about desperate link-spamming. :-) Whassamatta Joe-boo-boo? No one to lookee-wookee at your sitey-witeys? :-)
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1541
12-16-2006 10:43 PM ET (US)
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1540
12-16-2006 10:17 PM ET (US)
Tony, they have no facts about us so they have to rely on lies. :-) What makes me laugh is the way their deranged minds add up 2 + 2 and come up with 22! :-)
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1539
12-16-2006 10:16 PM ET (US)
My my, such aggressive off-wiki attacks! Tsk tsk. :-) No wonder I have given up trying to drill facts into the thick skulls of Sai Baba's devoted dunderheads.

The proof of Bhatia's statement is on ExBaba.Com which, as I already said, Joe108 has ignored and lied about to suit his own purposes. Just one small problem, ignoring something doesn't erase it's presence. :-) And secondly, we do not care of Joe or Lisa accept this evidence. They do not even accept the fact that Isaac Tigrett confirmed that the reports of molestation are true. What more "proof" do you need, duh?

No wonder everyone is laughing..
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1538
12-16-2006 05:56 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-24-2008 03:54 AM
/m1537

Too funny to hear conscienceless O'Clery the hypocrite supreme whine after all the lies he tells and thinks nothing of it. Not to mention Tony has relatives he visits in Ireland so could very well put anything he wants on a profile, especially when the conscienceless blob writes under other usernames and lies about that too.

Tony you, like so many anti-Sais, are a sewerbrained pervert who needs help. Too bad you can't see it like anyone else with brains can.

You get rid of one pervert from the anti-Sai crowd and another one pops up. Hate groups like them are like a hydra.


Ah yes, I think we should continue to look at the very dubious connection between Premanand and usedbybaba to find out if they are one and the same trickster propagating lies through numerous anonymous names on the internet.

When Premanand claims he received letters from students alleging molestation, instead of turning that supposed information over to the police (the mandatory reporting the anti-Sais continually give only lip service to) so law enforcement could investigate, Premanand instead writes a letter to the Vice Chancellor demanding the Vice Chancellor let him question students and then makes money off of the alleged info by publishing numerous articles in his skeptic newsletter (and even demands the Vice Chancellor put copies of it in the students library)! Is this the behavior of a citizen who REALLY cares whether students are being molested? Premanand has done absolutely NOTHING to prove sexual abuse by Sai Baba. All Premanand has done is use the anonymous info for YEARS in his campaign to make money smearing Sai Baba. In other words, Premanand has taken the rationalists for a ride on a circuitous journey leading straight back to Premanand's pocketbook. As they say in the investigative field, follow the money.


So we should take a VERY careful look at just WHO is helping Premanand with his smear campaign which is set up to mint money through propaganda.
 



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tony o'clery  1537
12-16-2006 03:00 PM ET (US)
joe gerardo 'mentira' moreno, keep pushing the lie that I was a stormfront member. Any idiot can see I wasn't born on Ireland and my father was an educationalist my mother an office worker. So the bio of this cas is way off and jose knows this, but proves again the basic dishonesty of sai devotees on the net. It is true they quoted a pro secular article that I wrote.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1536
12-16-2006 02:15 AM ET (US)
Show us your proof Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED"). After all, you are all for supplying "proof". No second hand accounts. No rumors. No anonymous and confidential accounts. PROOF! Do it or shut up :-)

CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1535
12-16-2006 02:05 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-24-2008 03:42 AM
/m1534

Are you braindead or what saibabaexposed? Dr. Bhatia has NEVER mentioned this incident! It was in a ANONYMOUS posting on a message board! YOU people are so DUMB it is criminal. And there is absolutely NO proof Mick Brown actually even talked to Bhatia on the phone for the Downfall article since it could have been ANYBODY. We see how EASILY Mick Brown was duped by the Rahms! I guess that's what happens when you let a school drop out become a journalist. The same pattern of stupidity is repeated with Premanand the drop out's supposed journalism.



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Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1534
12-15-2006 07:02 PM ET (US)
Funny how Joe has to link to the Yahoogroup posting on his site, because the same post on SSB2 would reveal my reply to his speculations. In essence, he claims that the story of the raped 7-year-old/7th grader is a lie and basically claims that the story is cooked up. He has no answer for the fact that Bhatia himself confirmed the issue of the boy's age in a later communication.

Thus, Joe108 is still lying even after I brought out all these facts. Tough.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1533
12-15-2006 06:24 PM ET (US)
/m1531

Just goes to show what a filthy mind Tony has that he would even think such things. In fact, I would suspect it was Tony who wrote that sociopathic trash. It fits his sewerbrain to a "T".
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1532
12-15-2006 05:12 PM ET (US)
Here goes Tony Bologna O'Clery telling his pathological lies again. The anonymous and alleged story of a 7th grade student being sexually abused is unverfiable, unsubstantiated and has no proof to support it whatsoever. This has already been discussed before: Click Here To View Former Yahoo-Group Post.

Tony O'Clery  1531
12-15-2006 11:46 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-15-2006 11:48 AM
This story sounds like sb ripping the arse of a seventh grader, and Dr Bhattia having to treat him for it. Seems sb gets into rapacious sexual frenzies sometimes, as the Rakshasa manifests. Maybe sb was a friend of the Marquis de Sade in a former life.
Marquis de Sade  1530
12-13-2006 02:26 PM ET (US)
Bum-Cleaver lugged a club so amusingly shaped it was nearly impossible for him to perform an embuggery without splitting the ass, whence came the name he bore. The head of his prick resembled the heart of an ox, it was eight and three-eights inches around; behind it, the shaft measured only eight, but was crooked and had such a curve it neatly tore the anus when penetrating it, and this quality, very precious to libertines as jaded as ours, had made him singularly sought after.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1529
12-08-2006 11:32 PM ET (US)
/m1527

Dream on Tony the "true believer." The only reputations that are being destroyed are those of incessant liars like you. And rightly so.

Tony preaches ahimsa but his actions show otherwise.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1528
12-08-2006 08:53 PM ET (US)
Tony O'Clery  1527
12-08-2006 11:39 AM ET (US)
I'm working on a screen play for the book. The exposure of this sinister baba in the book is better done this way as 'fiction'. As a movie it will destroy the reputations of these despicable perverted frauds like sai baba.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1526
12-08-2006 05:03 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-24-2008 03:50 AM
/m1518

What law says the Avatar HAS to heal himself (to prove to your ego He is God), when he is not dependent on form to begin with? Krishna didn't heal himself and died from an arrow wound. And you claim to be an expert on Hinduism? Piffle.

Your problem is you just CANNOT think outside the box of your own idiocy. This is what happens when you have "true believer" syndrome. No matter how much evidence is presented to you that you do not know what you are talking about you just can't seem to get it because you continue to trip over your big ol' ego.


And we've already established by posting links to your past filthy-mouthed quotes just WHO the perverts are. You are sewerbrain supreme with your disgusting potty mouth sex talk which I'm sure is not confined to the internet.

I hate to torture anyone but people need to understand the kind of filth that oozes out of this pervert's brain. Tony needs a 12 step program from Perverts Anonymous.

Here are some of his quotes:

"I was holding the candle but he liked the shape, so he grabbed it and stuck it up his arse."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sathyasaibab...onclub/message/4559


"Hi there,
Stand in front of the mirror masturbating and think of sb, really think hard about him doing fellatio on you. You will first notice a big pair of rubber lips appearing in the astral then sb will be with
you, inviting you to pn so you can be anally penetrated."

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sathyasaibaba2/message/24890


"So now pull your pants down and let god do fellatio and anal penetration on you with his golden lingam."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sathyasaibaba2/message/24911


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1525
12-07-2006 09:52 PM ET (US)


Sex, Lies and Anti-Sais
by Lisa De Witt
©2004Lisa De Witt

In Tal Brooke's book, "Lord of the Air," Brooke relates a story about a mysterious seventeen year old Anglo-Indian named
Patrick who claimed the famous holy man, Sai Baba took his semen and put it in a handerchief for use in black magic rituals. Like so many of the anti-Sai stories, this one too is shrouded in secrecy. Only those
trusted in the "in-crowd" seem to be allowed to contact the accuser with
regard to this incident which is alleged to have happened some thirty years ago. Barry Pittard claims that Bob Lowenberg investigated and wrote about this story and yet there is no documentation supporting Pittard's assertion and Mr. Lowenberg, who has written four pro-Sai Baba books, appears to still be a devotee.

Like so many of the anti-Sai stories upon close examination, the facts do not seem to match the rhetoric. One would think that if the anti-Sais had as much supporting documention as they claim, it would be easily available and consistent. For a group who claims to want to prove their case the
anti-Sais seem to put obstructions at every turn.

More recently, Tony O'Clery began touting more unsubstantiated stories regarding Sai Baba's alleged fascination with semen and black magic. O'Clery claimed Dan Winter was the resident expert on the subject. Upon typing Dan Winter's name into the search engine, we find out Dan Winter has been sued for plagiarizing the
copyrighted property of a Jewish physicist named Tenen and owes $140,000 in financial damages, with future lawsuits in the works. Not only that, but Winter is a wanted fugitive for disobeying the court directive and is currently in hiding although he is still making money doing seminars using Tenen's plagiarized material. Mr. Winter has a network of friends who are aiding and abetting him in his illegal endeavors. Tony O'Clery went into hiding after I first broke this story.

According to court documents, Dan Winter had made many anti-semitic statements toward Mr. Tenen. Winter's business
associate, Melchizedik, also threatened Mr. Tenen with satanic retribution if he didn't leave Mr. Winter alone. Sometime back, I posted information regarding the
purported anti-semitic connections between Duncan Roads of Nexus
Magazine, David Icke, and New Dawn Magazine. As it turns out, New Dawn
Magazine did an interview with Dan Winter in 2002 and David Icke has published some of Dan Winter's material. One might assume it is more than coincidence that all these 'things' just happen to be connected.

After reading Mr. Winter's postings on zayra.de, it became apparent to me that Dan Winter is schizophrenic. Unsurprisingly, his meaningless
ramblings include many references to reptiles, semen and bliss. It is no
wonder why Mr. Winter was motivated to plagiarize Tenen's material. It is a
surprise however that Icke and New Dawn Magazine are promoting Winter as
an expert in anything when it is clear to me he is nothing short of a fraud. Are they really that daft or is there something more sinister going on here regarding Winter's backers?


References:

Winter/Melchizedik Satanic Connection:
http://www.danwinter.com/DM0492.html

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David Icke Promotes Dan Winter:
http://www.davidicke.net/emagazine/vol5/winter.html

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Dan Winter's OWN writing:
http://www.zayra.de/soulcom/seemen/index.html
"...physics tells us why laws against hugging
prevent rain:..." "The photon donut's converging side tilt is calibrated by the phase angle measuring cone, which physics naively labels RED. Sometimes I see RED I
am so angry that they refuse to teach the kids that what they are naming is the CONverging PRINCIPLE itself.(Try tilting
the phi flame letter on the 7 color moebius photon donut - to adom: hiburu for red, and check your spin path.) The ADAMic race became Adomic with the atomic race. How much can we make separate:
shall we live in apart meants. Let's build an
adom smasher." "I am glad others have measured the quantity of their semen
which enters the spine tailings and pumps during kundalini... soon we shall refine how to taste good QUALITY hygiene when you do. (Belly up to the bar for your Ozone enema... only kidding/optional .. see Twinking Eyes Lifestyle at Nourished by Spin Hygiene for Ecstatic Lifestyle link below...)"

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Dan Winter's Bio
and Interview w/New Dawn:
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/A_...with_DAN_WINTER.htm

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1998-Corrective
Notice by Daniel E. Winter:
http://www.danwinter.com/corrnote.html

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2001-REWARD
Meru Foundation is offering substantial rewards and "finders' fees" for information that leads to the collection of the $140,000 in court costs and interest owed to it by Mr.
Daniel E. Winter. If you have done business with Mr. Winter, or have information with regard to his business and/or business partners, please contact reward@danwinter.com for further
information. Meru Foundation is also accumulating evidence for possible future
legal action (US and world-wide) with regard to Mr. Winter's (and those acting with and for him) new plagiarism and disparagement. If you have purchased copies of Mr. Winter's illicit works, if you have attended presentations by Mr.
Winter, or those working with and for him, or if you have other first-hand knowledge or physical evidence of the new -- and quite
obvious --works of plagiarism and disparagement, please contact
action@danwinter.com.
 
Dear Friends,
www.danwinter.com has been transferred to the Plaintiffs, Stanley and Cynthia Tenen and Meru Foundation, by order of Hon. Judge Charles J. Siragusa, of the US Federal District Court for the Western District of New York in Rochester.
The Court has taken this action because Mr. Winter has refused to respond to the Court. He has refused to show up for hearings, for depositions, and to show cause why he should not continue to be held in contempt of court for his many violations of the Court's orders. This is
not a matter of censorship. There is an arrest warrant for Mr. Winter filed with the United States Federal Marshals' Service, and he is a fugitive. It is the Court's way of using its discretionary powers to encourage Mr. Winter to appear in Court in the United States, and for deposition, as he has been ordered to do. The idea is to get Mr. Winter's attention, not to censor him. (The three most recent Court
Orders, listed and linked to below, make this clear.) For the time being, this website includes an index of posted documents, the Court's orders including Mr. Winter's Corrective Notice, a list of copyright-violating works, and excerpts from related sworn depositions and affidavits by
recognized professionals, who are either expert witnesses or eyewitnesses. We are planning to address Mr. Winter in an open
letter, to be posted here in the near future. In the meantime, we ask all of those who are interested in the ideas that have brought them to this site to read
the index and summaries listed below. It is very important that everyone understand the most important issue is not a matter of property, or slander. Nor is it a matter of Mr. Winter's admitted plagiarism, and willful and malicious behavior. The most
important issue is that the materials presented by Mr. Winter are not only taken from the works of others, but that he
is deliberately misrepresenting those works. In other words, social, political,
personal, and legal issues aside, the materials presented by Mr. Winter are bogus. Mr. Winter actually bragged -- when he was first confronted about his lying -- that he knew that what he was presenting (particularly with regard to the golden mean and the golden spiral) was
untrue, but that his audiences -- in his words -- were "too stupid to know the difference." This is the reason why you
should consider informing yourself about the facts. The problem is not that Mr.
Winter is selling stolen goods. That is a
problem, but it's not the worst problem. The problem is that when you open the metaphoric box of ideas that Mr. Winter is always advertising, the box is empty, or
full of things that are untrue. Mr. Winter is
not "liberating secrets". It is as if he is selling stolen cars that don't even have
engines. (Metaphorically, of course --
thankfully, Mr. Winter is not actually selling
cars.) Also, by admitting -- bragging -- that
"my audiences are too stupid to know the difference," Mr. Winter is expressing contempt for his own audiences. This
is not science. This is quackery. Mr. Winter has no credentials. He has no publications. He has no colleagues. His representations of accomplishments are false, and his reputation is that of a con artist. Mr. Winter's victims are his audience. That is why he has such contempt for his audience. This is why honest, caring people who are interested in the topics Mr. Winter discusses should turn their backs on him, and go instead to the honestly-presented original sources of the research. If you have any influence on Mr. Winter, or any
interest in helping him, then we ask you to help him to keep the promises he made, and to honor the court's orders. And finally, there should be no doubt of who is telling the truth here, because in fact,
the first order posted here, entitled Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law, and Order which the court issued as an Order
after reviewing the evidence, was actually composed by Mr. Winter and the attorney he hired. In other words, the Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law, and Order is Mr. Winter's personal admission of guilt and responsibility. Mr. Winter and his attorney -- in order to conclude the lawsuit -- swore
before the Court that Mr. Winter was effectively an impostor, that he had plagiarized and bastardized the works of Stan Tenen and the Meru Foundation, that he had acted willfully and maliciously, and all the rest of it. So when you are reading the Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law, and Order, you are reading Mr. Winter's
statement, and Mr. Winter's side of the story. Mr. Winter's unsworn statements which he now makes in public are his way of attempting to discount what he
admitted to in Court. These statements are not under oath, and these statements were not reviewed by an impartial US Federal Court judge. Thankfully, we enjoy freedom of speech, and that includes the freedom to lie. The facts are what was sworn to and
reviewed by the court. Please help all those who care about these issues to understand the facts.
One further thought. Dishonest people, and people who enjoy hurting others -- like Mr. Winter -- count on the fact that the vast majority of healthy, caring,
well-intended people are not suspicious by
nature, and accept what they are told at face value. This is good. Decent, caring people should not have to be suspicious, and should not need to double-check every claim that is made. But unfortunately, this means that decent,
caring people, young and old, students and professionals, are easily deceived by people like Mr. Winter, who go to so much trouble to deceive them. No one who has been taken in by Mr. Winter's claims should feel
badly. This is not anything to be ashamed of. The fact is that even the best informed and most careful people can be deceived by a determined liar.
Please, if you did not immediately realize the truth about Mr. Winter and his claims, do not feel foolish, and please be respectful and understanding to other caring people when you speak with them. That's the golden rule.

If you have any questions, or need further
information, please contact us via email:
dwinter@sprynet.com .

Yours truly,

Board of Directors,
Meru Foundation
http://www.danwinter.com/index.html
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1524
12-07-2006 09:07 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-24-2008 03:40 AM
/m1514

Tony O'Clery should certainly be investigated for his DOCUMENTED and dubious connections to right wing extremists such as David Icke. Tony O'Clery is a hatemonger supreme.



Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
   1523
12-07-2006 08:53 PM ET (US)
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CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1522
12-07-2006 08:41 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-01-2007 03:51 AM
/m1520

Tony O'Clery is a blatant liar as I was the one who initially discovered his uses of different usernames, pretending to be other people.Tony's another one like usedbybaba who thinks lying is cute and playing with peoples lives is a big game.

Tony may not live in Ireland but he visits there (he has stated on his westminster site that his mother lives in Ireland) as well as the UK and Australia and has been known to put other countries on his profiles while pretending to be others. When he was posting as sivatayi_2000 he tried to give the pretense he was from UK.

Someday someone will sue Tony the big mouthed defamer because, like most warped anti-Sais, he never knows when to shut up.
Tony O'Clery  1521
12-07-2006 06:43 PM ET (US)
Namaste,'Westminster Time Files'.

My novel on the power elite and other adventures will come out early
next year. In the novel there is also a couple of chapters on an evil
guru in India who is a pedophile and a criminal and 'manifests'
vibhuti. He turns out to be a reincarnated Rakshasa, and is very
similar to another Baba we know of......ONS....Tony.
Tony O'Clery  1520
12-07-2006 06:41 PM ET (US)
I never lied about using them, I said they weren't exclusive to myself. Some of my email accounts are shared, is that too hard to understand.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1519
12-07-2006 04:51 PM ET (US)
Tony O'Clery, I will notice how you wholly dismiss your own lies and then focus on what you consider to be a lie on my behalf although your name is signed on those posts and I provided screen-caps. You lied about using the name 'saktidasa', 'dingopl' and 'narayan'. You are a deceitful person who cannot be trusted. Try weaseling yourself out of that with your Buddha posts.

Tony O'Clery  1518
12-07-2006 04:26 PM ET (US)
doctor heal thyself. How come the decrepit pervatar is on a wheelchair and hasn't cured himself yet? He'll never make it to 96 years of age.
Tony O'Clery  1517
12-07-2006 04:25 PM ET (US)
Joe mentira moreno, says I use fake names. I must be the only person on the net he expects only to use his birth name. The reason he thinks like this is that I share some names with other people, for email purposes, and because sometimes people from different countries cannot get a safe email address in the west.
Tony O'Clery  1516
12-07-2006 04:20 PM ET (US)
Namaste,

The lie by joe moreno:

http://tony-oclery-exposed.blogspot.com/20...xtremist-group.html

As you can see this cas lives in Ireland and he and his parents have a completely different bio from me. The fact that they quoted me from a book doesn't mean that I approve of the site...I don't. And the article that they quoted was a pro secular and anti sectarian one. Joe has been told this before but continues to keep this calumny on his site. Proving beyond all doubt that he is a liar a fabricator and probably mentally ill...Tony
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1515
12-07-2006 02:57 PM ET (US)
Tony O'Clery is a self-admitted liar against Sathya Sai Baba. Tony O'Clery purposely mislead others with a bold-faced lie that a known pedophile was associated with the Sathya Sai Organization. See For Yourself. After this lie was exposed by me, Tony O'Clery said:
"I knew you guys are so absorbed with your own lunacy that you would miss that and rave on, which you are doing hahhaahahah. What great entertainment for me hahahahahaahahhah. I don't know who the guy is or even if he was a sb organiser, but he probably would make a good one hahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

This is the low-class type of defamer who is attempting to say he is not affiliated with The Racist/Extremist Group Stormfront.

In addition, Tony O'Clery has a kinky boot fetish, openly talked about his acid trip, alcoholism and use of psylocybin, uses numerous fake names, believes that he can communicates with the dead and can hear their voices in his head, regularly enters demon trances and was accused by Sai Baba EXPOSED that he was/is gay/bisexual and is a sexual molestor.

So now when Tony Anthony O'Clery says I am a liar, how can be believed?

Tony O'Clery  1514
12-07-2006 01:26 PM ET (US)
The following is a lie from Joe Moreno.
My father was a schools inspector and my mother worked in an office. I don't live in Ireland, never have.........Tony.
Here is the lie from the followers of so called truth or sathya.



'O'Clery & The Racist/Extremist Group Stormfront
Anthony Tony O'Clery
Living In Vancouver, British Columbia

Anthony "Tony" O'Clery was an active member on the Stormfront site and used the name "Decendant of Cas". Stormfront is a racist and extremist group that promotes White Supremacy and is advertised and promoted on Ku Klux Klan websites. The Stormfront site is run by Don Black, a former Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan and long-standing member in the White Supremacy Movement. Don Black is married to former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke's ex-wife. Don Black served time in federal prison for plotting to overthrow a left-leaning goverment on the black island nation of Dominica to set up an all-white state.

Not only is it very disturbing that O'Clery posted on an openly White Supremacist site, he never spoke out against white supremacy but took a very strong anti-immigrant/pro-white Irish point of view (even posting on the "The Aryan Culture of Ireland" thread) and referred to Chinese people as "Chinks" (a derogatory term for a person of Chinese descent).

One will also notice how O'Clery's signature (on many of the posts on "Stormfront") talked against the "Orange Order Of Ireland". In the book Universal Seduction, O'Clery submitted an essay that happened to talk about the New World Order of front groups, like the Orange Order of Ireland (Reference). Just more proof that O'Clery was the author of those posts on Stormfront.

As if this isn't disturbing enough, O'Clery claimed that he had an IQ of 160, ranking in the top 1 percentile of intelligence quotients and being brighter than 99% of the population! O'Clery is claiming his IQ ranks in the High Genius category along with Miguel de Cervantes, Nicolaus Copernicus, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Rembrandt van Rijn, Charles Darwin, Benjamin Franklin, Sophia Kovalevskaya, Stephen W. Hawking and Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart! lol This from a guy who can't even spell correctly or keep track of his 4-6 fake names!



Tony O'Clery posted on a White Supremacist site, never dissenting with the racist propaganda disseminated there and only fueling the flames of dissension. Shameful. Such are the "exposers" of Sathya Sai Baba.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1513
12-06-2006 04:43 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-06-2006 07:31 PM
/m1508


Geez, what a MAJOR HYPOCRITE. Usedcrybaby, you seem to forget you are CONSTANTLY GOSSIPING, divulging PERSONAL information and babbling about other peoples personal lives which you have NO business talking about! Yet when people ask you about SPECIFIC information regarding your accusations you play nothing but head games. On top of this you LIE constantly.

If you bozos are going to go around sticking your big noses into other peoples lives and making ridiculous accusations without ONE IOTA of proof you are going to pay the price for your irresponsible character assassination.


If we were "afraid" Baba was going to be revealed as a fraud WHY would we even be here if our faith was that weak?

What we ARE is TIRED of all the incessant lies and the dummies delivering them.
usedbybaba  1512
12-06-2006 11:56 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-06-2006 11:57 AM
/m 1510
Hope this detachment continues.Thank you.
bye
usedbybaba  1511
12-06-2006 11:55 AM ET (US)
I did write "The first reaction is that you start looking at girlish biy as partners and for me that was not a sin.with so much confusion in the head i was not able to take a decision."

 but it should have read it was a sin. it was a typographical error and i know you are going to take advantage of it.
by that time i sent the message i realised the mistake but could not correct it.
This was a mistake and i apologise. especially because i have abused Lisa in the previous message that i have deleted (1509).
I was a little emotional when i wrote the first message on the girlish thing etc., the one with the following message and i realise that i had posted one more message or something like that.
I could not edit it.Maybe i should hav sent a copy of the corrected version.
usedbybaba: "so it took years to understand that it is wrong..The first reaction is that you start looking at girlish biy as partners and for me that was not a sin.with so much confusion in the head i was not able to take a decision".
AngelicPerson was signed in when posted  1510
12-06-2006 11:51 AM ET (US)
i just asked you some questions regarding your story,but that was a while ago.
don't flatter yourself.I have absolutely no interest in yours nor anybody else's personal life.
usedbybaba  1509
12-06-2006 11:36 AM ET (US)
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usedbybaba  1508
12-06-2006 11:29 AM ET (US)
Why are all you anti-Sais so nosy
how about you.Are you not NOSY.

YOU ,ANGEL AND JOE ALWAYS TALK ONLY,I REPEAT ONLY OF OTHER PEOPLE'S PERSONAL LIFE



YOU TALK OF HOW SANJAY IS NOT MARRIED, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE DECENCY OF NOT PROBING INTO PRIVATE LIFES OF PEOPLE AND ON TOP OF THAT YOU,ANGEL AND JOE ALWAYS WANT TO KNOW WHO WE ARE ETC., WHY, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO STOP US TALKING ABOUT YOUR GURU. OBVIOUSLY ,

YOU KNOW THAT YOUR SO CALLED GURU IS A FAKE AND YOU ARE SCARED THAT WE WILL REVEAL IT TO THE WORLD


I will be away for some days but will come back,to take on all of you.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1507
12-05-2006 09:58 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-05-2006 10:03 PM
/m1499

Usedcrybaby, why are you obsessing now over my personal life (and telling lies about me)? Is your life so dysfunctional and boring you have nothing better to do?

Are you a voyeur bozo? Why are all you anti-Sais so nosy, obsessed with sex and pathological liars to boot? I think you perverts have created an NEW personality disorder all unto yourselves.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1506
12-05-2006 09:33 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-06-2006 04:13 AM
/m1503

Usedcrybaby, only a pervert like you believes this garbage. Nobody else believes God or guru (since gurus are CELIBATE dumbo) has sex to purify his devotees. Why are you making up this kind of GARBAGE? This is the kind of trash ignorant white people would buy into. All devotees know Sai Baba requests devotees to observe celibacy, particularly if they are single so your story doesn't fly.

Look at your quote:


usedbybaba wrote:

"I do not remember the date etc., come on how can you ask some one who was
treated shabbily and moreover i do not know the date on which i understood that he was not my God. Imagine you worship someone for years and he starts talking to you. You are in absolute awe of him."GOD" HAS TALKED TO YOU OUT OF SO MANY PEOPLE.NOW HE TELLS YOU THAT IT IS ALRIGHT TO HAVE SEX WITH HIM.SEX IS SUCH AN INSTINCT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH AND WITH WHOM IT IS CORRECT.YOUR VALUES CAN CHANGE ACCORDING TO YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES. when"GOD" TELLS YOU HE IS CORRECT(BUT U THINK OF HIM DIFFERENTLY AND SO YOU ARE CONFUSED)"
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1505
12-05-2006 08:52 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-05-2006 09:24 PM
/m1500

I think it is funny that we have to keep reminding sex on the brain usedcrybaby (the paid mercenary) that he was the one who claimed to have had gay sex with Baba so more than likely he is the one posting those gay sites (especially since he keeps bringing attention to them). He even said in one of his statements he was ok with looking for girlish boys as partners.

Why does usedcrybaby have such an obsession with sex? That's ALL he talks about and continually dwells on.

Here is his exact quote:

"The first reaction is that you start looking at girlish biy as partners and for me that was not a sin."

usedbybaba wrote:

I was around 19 wheni had the first experience.I DID NOT DO IT AT THE FIRST
TIME. THE FIRST TIME he applied oil on my abdomen but my pants were ordered
(signalled)down.Though he tried to push me to his thing I refused to understand (i hope u understand the meaning) he was pushing my hed as i took padanamaskar (reverential salutaions at his feet) .but he slowly through the months that followed tried to make me understand that it was allright to have sex with the Avatar and it is a chance that millions are not getting. Further he told me it is a purification.After all i was a devotee for a very very long time and was brain washed to accept anything that he did.Further we had other students who to and extent convinced me that it happen to them too and that baba is doing it for some inexplicable reason.. so it took years to understand that it is wrong..The first reaction is that you start looking at girlish biy as partners and for me that was not a sin.with so much confusion in the head i was not able to take a decision.
usedbybaba  1504
12-05-2006 07:06 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-05-2006 07:08 PM
jOE MORENO'S WROTE THE FOLLOWING AS A PART OF HIS EXPOSED TRICK AGAINST VIR SANGHVI:To support his claim that the homosexual abuse allegations against Sathya Sai Baba are "too numerous to dispute", Vir Sanghvi suggested that one enter "Sathya Sai Baba" and "homosexuality" into a Google search. Because there are almost 18,000 returns, Vir Sanghvi concluded that these allegations are "too numerous to dispute" and some of these allegations must be true. What kind of journalist bases facts and figures on Google results? This is not only shabby research, it is poor journalism.

For example, enter "George Bush" and "homosexuality" into a Google search and you will get an astounding 1,250,000 (plus) returns: View Results. Enter "Jesus" and "homosexuality" into a Google search and you will get an astounding 1,300,000 (plus) returns: View Results. Enter "Mother Teresa" and "homosexuality" into a Google search and you will get 330,000 (plus) returns: View Results. Using Vir Sanghvi's lamentable logic, one must conclude that some of these results are indicative that George Bush, Jesus and Mother Teresa engaged in acts of homosexuality. What kind of journalist uses this type of propaganda as "evidence" against others? In my opinion, the only type of journalists who engage in this type of low-class propaganda are tabloid journalists who care less for facts and care more for sensationalism and fiction."

usedbybaba
Watch how cunning he is.When you try Goerge Bush and homosexuality you get Bush's comments on the subject and similar is the cas with Mother teresa and others, but when you try sathya sai baba + homosexuality on google, you get umpteen number of accusations against baba.Now joe the fraud wants us to compare these two things. which are poles apart except for the word homosexuality.

spineless joe answer this

usedbybaba  1503
12-05-2006 06:52 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-05-2006 06:53 PM
According to joe if someone puts his fingers through the hair of your kid brother(he says sanjay did this) you are a homosexual

but if some one catches your penis and fondles it and massages it, HE IS DIVINE


WHAT A DIVINE PERVERT JOE IS
usedbybaba  1502
12-05-2006 06:38 PM ET (US)
Joe aka sexybikerbabes060"

EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED





 HAS SENT THIS MESSAGE TO sathyasaibaba2 · Sathya Sai Baba DISCUSSION CLUB IN YAHOO.ONLY YOU AND YOUR BABA WILL ENJOY THESE POSTS

Cute Amateur Biker Babes looking for playmate! Check their profiles here:
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HE AND HIS MERCENARY DEVOTESS WANT TO SAVE HIM BY CALLING ME A LIAR.
BUT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT HE DID THIS TO DISRUPT THE DISCUSSION,BUT GOT CAUGHT.
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usedbybaba  1501
12-05-2006 06:34 PM ET (US)
Now find out bout swami agnivesh's back ground. i know what you will do connect him to someone and then say they are the same people and then try to belittle him.
usedbybaba  1500
12-05-2006 06:27 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-05-2006 06:29 PM
Joe and lisa are soo interested in these sites that they hav e posted this on this forum on baba with the hope that there will be devotees who would become partners.

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tHIS IS WHAT GAY MORENO WANTS US TO DO AND HAS POSTED THESE LINKS YESTERDAY. mY GOD WHYDO YOU HAVE TO DO THIS GAY MORENO
i KNOW YOUR FRIEND LISA GAY SHIT LIKES IT. BUT IT IS NOT CORRECT. TALK ABOUT BABA IN THESE DISCUSSIONS.

Gay Website For Gay Men
www.gaymen.lustcontacts.com

Gay Website For Lesbian, Gay Women
www.gaysingle.diydating.com
www.gaywomen.lustcontacts.com
usedbybaba  1499
12-05-2006 06:19 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-05-2006 06:21 PM
SWAMI AGNIVESH CALLED YOUR BABA MOLESTOR HE HE HE HO HO HO. GO TRY YOUR TRICKS IN PARTHI.

Lisa :Too funny that you are getting your info from another liar (Sanjay Dadlani) such as yourself who can't get his facts right.

ok these are the facts
GUYS I RECENTLY FOUND OUT THAT LISA IS DIVORCED AND STRUGGLING TO GET A BOY FRIEND. NO ONE IS COMING NEAR HER BECAUSE SHE STINKS. SO SHE IS ASKING FOR HELP FROM JOE AND BABA. POOR LADY,WAS AFTER ALL MOLESTED BY SOMEONE WHO WAS MENTALLY DERANGED. WE HAVE TO INESTIGATE WHETHER JOE HAS ANY ROLE TO PLAY IN THIS.Very Dangerous people.
usedbybaba  1498
12-05-2006 06:11 PM ET (US)
/M1485

sO YOU ARE AT IT AGAINS JOE.SAD THAT YOU ARE SO DESPERATE.
usedbybaba  1497
12-05-2006 06:10 PM ET (US)

oh MY GOD I AM SHIVERING IN FEAR

,what a logic he he he .just shut up Lisa aks usedbyjoe .As i told you all these people are paid mercenary devotees of baba.You will never see adevotee of baba shitting around in the net
lOOK AT WHAT THEY DO THEY ARE SO NERVOUS THAT THEY BADLY WANT TO FIND OUT WHO I AM.
fOR YOUR CHITRAVATHI THING ,ATLEAST 20 STUDENTS KNOW OF THIS CRACK POT

HA HA HAHA . BY THE WAY WHETHER IAM HARIHARAN OR EXSAISTUDENT OR YUGESH GIRI HOW DOES IT MATTER..HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE HE .
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1496
12-05-2006 04:40 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-05-2006 04:59 PM
More proof yugesh giri = usedbybaba
see also /m1473


yugesh giri wrote:

Well said tony.u are true.Besides SB was not born in parthi as they claim but in a village across chithravathi and his uncle was the one who helped Eshwaramma in her child birth (what do u call it -some nurse?) O now i remember the name of the village karnatanagepalli.Do u know SB's father had a keep?



usedbybaba wrote:

baba was not born in puttaparthi.he was born on the other side of chitravathi
in a village (i forget the name. Eswaramma s brother was the mid wife or whaatever u call it. Babas father had a keep . As far as date of birth is concerned it is all fake. no one nows his birth day. They have no practice of maintaining the records.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1495
12-05-2006 03:56 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-05-2006 05:37 PM
/m1493

Too funny that you are getting your info from another liar (Sanjay Dadlani) such as yourself who can't get his facts right.

Also funny that a cowardly hypocrite like you is obsessed with gossiping about others while you hide behind numerous pseudonyms to play your sicko mind games. Where you always this dumb? With your foul mouth and dirty mind, we can imagine what a sordid and perverted past you must be hiding.

I love Joe's new name for you, usedcrybaby. It suits you SO perfectly.

I want people to notice too how wackos like usedcrybaby can only play mind games and gossip about others. Usedcrybaby has ZERO persons to back up his accusations. He is a one man disinformation show who uses his gossip and childish behavior to distract from his ZERO CREDIBILITY.

I hope you read the article about the Unamazing Randi. It is par for the course in this group of weirdos.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1494
12-05-2006 10:11 AM ET (US)
usedbybaba  1493
12-05-2006 09:42 AM ET (US)
Boooo booo lisa sulk
Here is what i found about YOU
Lisa De Witt was sexually molested at age 13 by a care worker (apparently a fully-grown adult) in her care home. As for age differences, her FIRST marriage was to a man FIFTEEN years older than her, although she apparently initiated that marriage at age 20. Upon the breakup of her FIRST marriages, she appears to have had several boyfriends - including black men, despite her known tendency for racism. Consequently, Lisa De Witt is not in a position to be a moralistic condescending hypocrite against stalwart Expose activists like Barry Pittard.

ha ha ha ha ha oh oh oh oh he he he he

thu thu thu bad girl So now i know what you are frustrated with and pouring all your venom in the net.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1492
12-05-2006 03:51 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-05-2006 06:17 AM
/m1491

Pathetic reasoning from a know-nothing con man. I don't see Sorcar attacking any other magicians. In fact he is in the SAME philosophical bed with the Unamazing Randi and Premanand, the skeptics disguised as debunkers.

Look in the mirror at your hateful, drooling face. You are just angry because I'm onto your game. Remember foul-mouthed coward, YOU are the only one who has threatened others with physical violence. I'm going to keep squeezing you until the truth comes out. That thing you fear the MOST. TRUTH.

Your cowardly guilt trip isn't working. You have NO truth to give. Only a con man's childish mind games in the form of gossip. All you are doing is going around in circles like a dummy to keep your idiot game going because you have NO proof of anything.
usedbybaba  1491
12-05-2006 03:01 AM ET (US)
Lisa: Sorcar is .....jealous of Baba

USB : only one magician will be jelous of another.If sorcar is jelous, then baba is a magician,according to you.You are such a venomos snake that you cannot think but only bark lies and regurgitate shit.Assuming i have connections with premanand, how does it bother you,or how can that be dubious.The only illicit connection is between you, joe and baba.I can feel your hatred radiating through the net.you deserve nothing but kaaa thuuu
(spit on your face).thu thu thu thu.
I never imagined that you are such a vermin "khararar thu thu thu"
idiot.All you want is foe people to die.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1490
12-05-2006 12:04 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-05-2006 06:13 AM
/m1486

Ah yes, I think we should continue to look at the very dubious connection between Premanand and usedbybaba to find out if they are one and the same trickster propagating lies through numerous anonymous names on the internet.

When Premanand claims he received letters from students alleging molestation, instead of turning that supposed information over to the police (the mandatory reporting the anti-Sais continually give only lip service to) so law enforcement could investigate, Premanand instead writes a letter to the Vice Chancellor demanding the Vice Chancellor let him question students and then makes money off of the alleged info by publishing numerous articles in his skeptic newsletter (and even demands the Vice Chancellor put copies of it in the students library)! Is this the behavior of a citizen who REALLY cares whether students are being molested? Premanand has done absolutely NOTHING to prove sexual abuse by Sai Baba. All Premanand has done is use the anonymous info for YEARS in his campaign to make money smearing Sai Baba. In other words, Premanand has taken the rationalists for a ride on a circuitous journey leading straight back to Premanand's pocketbook. As they say in the investigative field, follow the money.

So we should take a VERY careful look at just WHO is helping Premanand with his smear campaign which is set up to mint money through propaganda.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1489
12-04-2006 09:04 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-04-2006 11:04 PM
/m1487

The only bad trickster here is YOU bozo. Sai Baba has MILLIONS listening to Him and knowing of His Divinity. You are a NOBODY and a PERVERT with sex on the brain who will die a nobody. You are in the business of playing with peoples lives like there is no tomorrow but you will pay for your deceit.

You seem to forget magicians like Sorcar aren't KNOWN for their intelligence. That's why they are magicians (and dummies like you) and jealous of Baba. The Sorcar you are talking about is the son of the original Sorcar who died of a heart attack over thirty years ago in 1971.


The only thing you've accomplished in life is playing childish mind games on the internet. All you can do is guilt trip and babble like a drunk about second hand stories which cannot be proven. You are full of hot air.

Notice too how these dummies continue to think they are going to crucify Sai Baba using the media. Once again, why are these alleged victims who claim to be so afraid continually running to the media, to be on tv, rather than the police? Talk about sleight of hand trickery and deceit.
usedbybaba  1488
12-04-2006 08:22 PM ET (US)
lISA: God only knows what he is worshiping as God now (probably his whiskey bottle)!
 
USEDBYBABAA: YOU ARE ONLY GUESSING WHAT I AM WORSHIPPING BUT IKNOW WHAT YOU ARE WORSHIPPING -- SATHYA SAI BABA'S LINGA
HO,ho hohoho he he he he he he.
usedbybaba  1487
12-04-2006 08:15 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-04-2006 08:17 PM
oh like the way you habe been finding out hwo i am so many times,
shit pot.your game and bab's game are getting over.For the first time on ab indian t.v. channel, they openly criticized baba for his molestation charges.
oh oh oh.you know what p.c. sarcar a famous magiscian said in the programme.

"SAI BABA IS A TRICKSTER AND A BAAAAD TRICKSTER AT THAT.


HE HE HE HE HE HE HE.YOU KNOW WHO WAS SUPPORTING BABA - JUSTICE BHAGAVATHI A FORMER SUPREME COURT JUDGE,UNFORTUNATELY FOR HIM SWAMI AGNIVESH A FAMOUS SPIRITUAL LEADER AND WELL KNOWN SOCIAL WORKER SAID " I APPRECIATE THE SOCIAL WORK OF ANYONE BUT I MET PEOLE WHO CAME CRYING TO ME ASKING FOR HELP.THEY WANTED SAIBABA WHO HAD MOLESTED THEIR SON IN BABA'S ASHRAM TO BE TAKEN TO TASK
AND THEIR SON WAS WEEPING THROUGH OUT THEIR COVERSATION." MSORT OF THESE PEOPLE INCUDING THE ANCHOR TOLD THE AUDIENCE THE BABA IS A FRAUD.BHARKA DUTT IS A VERY FAMOUS T.V JOURNALIST AND BOOOOOH THEY HAVE EXPOSED LOTS OF FRAUDSTERS AND SENT THEM TO JAIL INCLUDING THE BABA WHO WAS ARRESTED ON SUNDAY.BABA BOOOOH BOOOH.
"GOD HAS DECIDED TO STOP SATHYA SAI BABA AND LET US SEE HOW YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH THEN"
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1486
12-04-2006 01:17 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-04-2006 01:32 AM
So when did you send Premanand that Betrayal letter, usedbybeezlebub? I notice Premanand was very careful not to include the date of the letter. Is Premanand or someone else paying you to play your idiotic and childish mind games on the internet?

Looks like you got caught in your own trap. I suspect we will find out who you are shortly.

Come to think of it, your evasive maneuvering and inability to comprehend simple english remind me very much of Premanand. It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out usedbybaba = Premanand.
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12-04-2006 12:48 AM ET (US)
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usedbybaba  1484
12-04-2006 12:10 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-04-2006 12:11 AM
Lisa: I'm NOT going to put myself in your shoes because (continue the truth)

I can never stand and so i don't need shoes ,because i am soooo fat that my back will break and i depend on baba and joe for a livelihood.

I recently fell on baba and his leg broke.baba saved me. can't you see how miraculous baba is.
usedbybaba  1483
12-04-2006 12:02 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-04-2006 12:04 AM
now try all the names,one by one he he he.why have you left the other names.try.it might take another century.lisa aka rathnakar aka joe
usedbybaba  1482
12-04-2006 12:00 AM ET (US)
ha ha ha great job. go suck yugesgiri and be happy.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1481
12-03-2006 08:44 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-03-2006 10:26 PM
Usedbybeezlebub, you have contradicted yourself so many times it is clear you are lying. Are you so DUMB that we have to keep pointing out your lies and inconsistencies to you over and over again? Apparently you are too drunk or dumb to realize this. You are so out of touch with reality it is pathetic. Get some mental help bozo before you end up in jail.

Your game is over, yugesh giri aka usedbybaba aka blldexter aka xstudent@rediffmail.com aka exsaistudent, etc.

I'm NOT going to put myself in your shoes because I KNOW you are a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.
usedbybaba  1480
12-03-2006 08:19 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-03-2006 08:21 PM
Some students seem to have suffered a lot."
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I know that they were molested but not the extent of damage,for i have not talked to them.plus there were many brindawan students
IF YOU THINK I AM TELLING THE TRUTH,put YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES AND THEN
SEE HOW BAD it is to be in our position. IF YOU FEEL I AM NOT TELLING THE TRUTH,YOU WILL NEVER EVER UNDERSTAND THE PAIN.IT IS ALL IN THE THINKING AND YOUR ATTACHMENT FOR BABA WHICH WILL GUIDE YOUR THINKING PATTERN.NORMALLY MOST OF US ARE GUIDED BY OUR EMOTIONS AND NOT LOGIC.
BUT FOR MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH BABA I WOULD HAVE ASLO STAYED BACK WITH BABA AND TOLD EVERYONE THAT IF BABA IS DOING ANYTHING, IT IS BECAUSE HE IS DIVINE AND ALL THE OTHER BLABBER. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE CONFORTABLE.BUT THANK GOD,I HAD VERY BAD EXPERIENCES (THE HOMO THING AND ALSO SO MANY OTHER THINGS,THAT HAPPENED TO ME AND ALSO TO OTHERS) IN PARTHI THAT I JUMPED OUT OF THIS PLACE.

NO ONE CAN GO TO THE POLICE TO COMPLAIN.IF THAT WAS SO EASY,THE STORY OF THE MURDERS WOULD HAVE COME OUT WITHOUT ANY HITCH OR LOOP HOLE.
THIS COUNTRY HAS A LOT OF SPIRITUAL PEOPLE AND OBVIOUSLY MORE CHEATS.
ON SUNDAY THEY CAUGHT ANOTHER BABA FROM NORTH INDIA.IT WAS DONE ONLY BECAUSE A T.V.CHANNEL EXPOSED THIS GUY.HE HAD BEEN MOLESTING AND RAPING CHILDREN FOR MANY YEARS AND THE POLICE WERE NOT INTERFEREING EVEN AFETR THEY WERE TOLD SO MANY TIMES.
THIS BABA WAS A VERY SAMLL GOD MAN.IF HE HAS SUCH A CLOUT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION,HOW CAN SATHYA SAI BABA NOT ESCAPE THE LAW.HE IS THE MOST POWERFUL GOD MAN OF INDIA.
usedbybaba  1479
12-03-2006 07:52 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-03-2006 07:54 PM
/M 1476

you should know the student history of puttaparthi.Many small kids were brought to the hostel when they were only 10 years.They lived their till they finished their P.G.but they were generally molested by a few senir students like Diwakar and others mentioned in the molestors list.These 10 year old kids are today Sunil Bharwani's age.Some of them are caught permanently in parthi but many have gone out and were finding it difficult to talk about the abuse by students and baba. Some of them were first molested by senior students and then later after they were around 15 or 16 molested by baba.Imagine what will be their mental health.They were totally confused about their values.On one hand there was a lot of spirituality ( hypocracy),on the other there were seniors (especially those who were close to baba and were considered heros )who molested them and as a final blow, baba himself molested them in the name of Divinity.
Now all these boys are quite old and even married.They finally have a chance in the net to pour out their frustrations and anger.some of them are so confused that they don't even know that they are thinking differntly from normal outside puttaparhti persons of their age.It is many times a cultural shock.
usedbybaba  1478
12-03-2006 07:34 PM ET (US)
Wheni say,i know that they were abused,they were abused by baba and in some cases only by seniors who generally victims of baba.
ok.here it is.There were many boys who got interview from baba like the bhrvanis,who were too junior to me.It would be embarrasing to ask them whether they had sex with baba,but we had friends who could talk to them and tell us the information.In some cases,there were juniors who were litteraly 10 or more years younger,I could only guess by the number of interviews and the person's odd behaviour and his reaction after the interview.BESIDES ALL THAT I DO NOT KNOW VERY PERSONALLY,BOYS FROM THE BRINDAWAN CAMPUS(WHITE FIELD,BANGALORE)IF THERE ARE EVEN 500 CASES OF MOLESTATION,HOW CAN I TALK TO EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEM.ACCORDING TO ME ONLY A FRACTION AND THAT TOO ONLY PUTTAPARTHI BOYS' LIST HAS BEEN BROUGHT OUT ON THE INTERNET TO A LARGE EXTENT.
AS FAR AS THE STUDENTS TRYING TO DO ANYTHING TO ME.NO THEY DID NOT,THOUGH IT WAS AN OPEN SECRET AS FAR AS WHO WAS WITH WHOETC.,
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1477
12-03-2006 02:59 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-03-2006 09:04 PM
/m1476

Especially when usedbybeezlebub claims in a previous post (/m202) he, "lived with these guys."

3.All the names mentioned in ex.baba .com of the student victims are 100% true 4.i lived with these guys.
AngelicPerson was signed in when posted  1476
12-02-2006 07:29 PM ET (US)

"Some students seem to have suffered a lot.I shudder the thought of being molested by senior students and also by baba. I would have gone bonkers."
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i just don't get this.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1475
12-02-2006 07:17 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 07:22 PM
/m1474

I think it's funny that usedbybaba is trying to pretend that he just "stumbled onto" this info when he has known about it and helped create it all along. More proof he is involved up to his eyeballs. Also, if you type saibaba + homosexuality there is not that much on it except a repeat of the same three or four anti-Sai sites.

Usedbybaba is a one man band operating in desperation. All he can do is use fear tactics and mind games on the internet to ply his crooked trade.
AngelicPerson was signed in when posted  1474
12-02-2006 06:39 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 07:03 PM
/m1436


"Premanand ia a elderly man who has written against baba. I saw his photograph today.I had a cusory glance and found that he has spoken to atleast one student.if you want to know more, search for saibaba + homosexuality in google and go for an english web site ,not ex baba.com.Some students seem to have suffered a lot."
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and that is news to you??that some students seem to have suffered a lot?I thought you knew them personally?
weren't you a student who suffered also?




"Some students seem to have suffered a lot.I shudder the thought of being molested by senior students and also by baba. I would have gone bonkers."
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you would have gone bonkers? ...if that happened to you?
i thought it did?






I knew so amny boys were involved in homosexuality,but never understood their pain.
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you never understood their pain?Weren't you in a similar situation?
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1473
12-02-2006 06:19 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-17-2007 05:43 AM
/m1472, /m1409

Maybe usedbybaba is looking for a biker babe (or guy) to dominate and purify him.

God only knows what he is worshipping as God now (probably his whiskey bottle)!

**********

usedbybaba wrote:

"I do not remember the date etc., come on how can you ask some one who was
treated shabbily and moreover i do not know the date on which i understood that he was not my God. Imagine you worship someone for years and he starts talking to you. You are in absolute awe of him."GOD" HAS TALKED TO YOU OUT OF SO MANY PEOPLE.NOW HE TELLS YOU THAT IT IS ALRIGHT TO HAVE SEX WITH HIM.SEX IS SUCH AN INSTINCT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH AND WITH WHOM IT IS CORRECT.YOUR VALUES CAN CHANGE ACCORDING TO YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES. when"GOD" TELLS YOU HE IS CORRECT(BUT U THINK OF HIM DIFFERENTLY AND SO YOU ARE CONFUSED)"

usedbybaba wrote:

for nearly three years baba did not bother about me.During these years I was brain washed about Baba by my own faith being a fertile ground for growing my faith with tremendous input through Discourses, Students who were as devoted as me or more and the total Ambience.. This period makes you yearn for BaBa .Even during this period ,I saw Students who had been there before I joined behaving without any sense of so called Discipline, for reasons not understood by us. They would crack sex jokes etc.,. (period when I heard of Lallu Panju). Then when Baba started talking to me it was very very important thing in my life and all he did was told me to remove my pant and applied the oil below the solar plexes. Then he told me to take pada namaskar and when I tried to get up he would not allow me ,meaning he wanted me to go to his thing. by that time he had kissed me on the mouth and all that. Because of my faith it was a spiritual experience for me .My fear of thinking of sex in front of the Almighty etc., was gone. So I took it as an expeience.The next time he called me , I had just taken a cold shower and he caught my penis and the heat of his hand made it stand erect, But Baba was obviously very happy.He was all smiles. Now this handling of my thing went on for a few years and I thought he was purifying me or something beyond my comprehension. He did not do anything because I was not co-operate in the way he was expecting ,but I was very obviously very devoted and my faith was increasing .Seeing me innocently trusting him unlike the others who were either happily joining him or running away from parthi, he waited for me to get caught in his place.(Don’t ask me how?) Once I was caught he slowly started troubling me, but even here my innocence and faith in him saved me to a large extent. He compelled me to do the blow job and I was totally confused. He was giving me signals as though it is ok to be a homo .It was repulsive but God was telling me. I cannot tell you all the details because some of my friends know the details nd my way of expressing the same. Lisa said Baba must be having the knack of finding the dumb ones . the fact is he tries two to three new persons every month and it is we who decide what to do and I was dumb but there were many who were smart to use or go away. As far as the 15 years is concerned ,I lived more than that in Parthi and When I was supposed to fill the area of first name ,Second name and so on I just filled not knowing it will be displayed and to my own surprise.


usedbybaba wrote:

I was around 19 wheni had the first experience.I DID NOT DO IT AT THE FIRST
TIME. THE FIRST TIME he applied oil on my abdomen but my pants were ordered
(signalled)down.Though he tried to push me to his thing I refused to understand (i hope u understand the meaning) he was pushing my hed as i took padanamaskar (reverential salutaions at his feet) .but he slowly through the months that followed tried to make me understand that it was allright to have sex with the Avatar and it is a chance that millions are not getting. Further he told me it is a purification.After all i was a devotee for a very very long time and was brain washed to accept anything that he did.Further we had other students who to and extent convinced me that it happen to them too and that baba is doing it for some inexplicable reason. so it took years to understand that it is wrong..The first reaction is that you start looking at girlish biy as partners and for me that was not a sin.with so much confusion in the head i was not able to take a decision.

usedbybaba wrote:

You are not here to court marshall people.If u are a lady send your male child or grand child to the primary school let munni aunti and others rape him first then bring him to Secondry school,where he can sit in the front and keep falling on baba and let him write to baba that he is radha and he wants to see "her"krishna. After that u talk.Don't keep your children safe and then talk about us. If you don't have children,dress up well and put yourself at his mercy.He would surely shown his linga and then you can worship it.Try try try again and you will not fail.Baba will test you for some months or maybe years but you will have his linga darshan and be sanctified.After all lesser mortals like me have had the good fortune of seeing his black expandable linga, you are more devoted and you should see it too. Ling hey betti ling ,play with it and wait till you are murdered for moksha like Sai Kumart Mahajan and Radhakrishnan.What is wrong if your Karma is to get murdered? can't you do it for BABA the black sheep.


yugesh giri aka usedbybaba wrote:

Hi
first give me ur real name and address.if u think i am bluffing hell with it. u have decided not to believe anyone. Assuming i mgive u my name and other details are you promising that u will believe or are u going to save me from SB's invisble hand that might take of my life.If you give me a written promise that i will not be affected by BABA and his people i will give you my name and other details.Now i have a family and my wife too knows about SB. For all this how do i know you are not one of the killers of SB's enemies. tell me what happened to E.K.Suresh,Sairam, Prabhu,Sai Kumar Mahajan,Radhakrishnan. What happened to that case whare all these students and former students were murdered.I know exactly what happened.
Do u know that the Sub Inspector who killed the first four was living in the staff quarters of the SSIHL.Maybe he is still living there, i don't know the present status.According to the Local police he is not traceable. don't think i wiil get excited and give u my name.


yugesh giri aka usedbybaba wrote:

Iam sorry i cannot give u my real id. iam scared. Now i have a family and i do not want to take risk. I atleast have the pleasure of telling the truth in anonimity. Most of my batch mates don't even discuss this with strangers whereas i do.but on one to one basis.Now that i have told u that i was made to do the blow job it would be a insult to me to tell u my real
name etc., BUT I PROMISE YOU THAT IAM SPEAKING THE TRUTH AND TRUTH ALONE. IF YOU FEEL I AND NOT TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT BABA,GO TO PARTHI AND KEEP WATCHING BABA'S LEFT HAND AND RIGHT HAND AND YOU WILL KNOW HOW
HE IS CREATING VIBUTHI.DON'T GO ON HOLY DAYS.HE GENERALLY DOES NOT CREATE ANYTHING IN THE CROWD. BY THE WAY THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF BALAJIS (ONE DID BA AND LEFT HALF WAY,ANOTHER DID B.COM )
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1472
12-02-2006 06:16 PM ET (US)
I am sure confusedbybaba thinks that by visiting the bikerbabes site that he could purify himself like he thought he could by giving oral sex (as he claimed). lol

usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1471
12-02-2006 06:15 PM ET (US)
You can grow up any time now.

HOW CAN I GROW WHEN I HAVE ALREADY CROSSED THAT AGE.YOUR BABA GROWS EVERY DAY,ATLEAST PARTIALLY AND TEMPORARILY, WHEN HE SEES SOME GOOD LOOKING BOYS.
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1470
12-02-2006 06:12 PM ET (US)
Joe aka sexybikerbabes060"

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HE AND HIS MERCENARY DEVOTESS WANT TO SAVE HIM BY CALLING ME A LIAR.
BUT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT HE DID THIS TO DISRUPT THE DISCUSSION,BUT GOT CAUGHT.
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_EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1469
12-02-2006 06:08 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 06:11 PM
Do you always get drunk and harass people at 4:30 in the morning (Indian time) bozo?

You can grow up any time now.

Unlike you, I actually went to college.
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1468
12-02-2006 06:08 PM ET (US)
OH YOU HAVE COME BIKER BABY JOE.NOT BAD SHE IS QUICK
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1467
12-02-2006 06:08 PM ET (US)
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1466
12-02-2006 06:07 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 06:08 PM
LET US SEE HOW YOUR BABLISA WILL SPEAK "PREMAATHMASWAROOPALARA, AND ALL LIARS AND BOZOS. MY FATHER BABA FATHERED ME BECAUSE OF MY MOTHER AND MY MOTHER MOTHERED ME BECAUSE OF MY FATHER BABOON SORRY BABA.MY FATHER USED TO CREATE SO MANY LINGAS AND NOW HE WANTS ME TO FOLLOW HIS FOOTSTEPS AND CREATE BIGGER LINGAS.i THOUGHT IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT,BUT REALISED THAT ALL I HAD TO DO WAS KEEP IT IN A KERCHIEF AND THEN DO THE TRICK.
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1465
12-02-2006 05:56 PM ET (US)
I JUST WONDER HOW YOUR CHILD FATHERED,BY BABA IS. DOES HE SPEAK TELUGU OR ENGLISH??
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1464
12-02-2006 05:54 PM ET (US)
/M1463

YOU DID NOT KNOW THAT.I FORGOT YOU ARE A PRE SCHOOL DROP OUT.
ONE MORE THING, I DON'T DRINK BABA'S HOLY WATER LIKE YOU DO.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1463
12-02-2006 05:48 PM ET (US)
/m1462

Dumbo, it's SATURDAY in the US. So Sunday is your drunk day in India?
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1462
12-02-2006 05:46 PM ET (US)
JOKER WOMAN THIS IS SUNDAY HERE AND NOW I KNOW YOU ARE DRUNK.
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1461
12-02-2006 05:45 PM ET (US)
Tell your friend to copy these abuses and say exposed.IDIOT.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1460
12-02-2006 05:45 PM ET (US)
What did I say about usedbybaba's Saturday drunken sprees? Every Saturday he gets drunk and comes here to play his childish mind games.
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1459
12-02-2006 05:44 PM ET (US)
/m1457
Don't talk about yourself so often and announce that you are from a lunatic assylum
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1458
12-02-2006 05:42 PM ET (US)
why should you answer my amil.Shut up and i will not give any proof.You may even ask me to prove that this is year 2006.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1457
12-02-2006 05:42 PM ET (US)
/m1456

Go get some mental help you pervert.
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1456
12-02-2006 05:41 PM ET (US)
Go hang yourself you holy shit pot.Go with your boy friend baba.Oh, i forgot you are gay. ok, go find your partner, a female one from the nearest zoo
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1455
12-02-2006 05:40 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 05:41 PM
/m1454

YOU are the one trying to divert attention from your lies. We have asked you to give us PROOF of your claims and all you do is call people names and play mind games because you have NO proof.

You can't even come up with ONE credible person to back your story! NOT ONE!!!!
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1454
12-02-2006 05:39 PM ET (US)
you are a liar who is trying to divert attention.you are telling people that i am feigning ignorance on some crap . so you are the one who should quote the message animal.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1453
12-02-2006 05:37 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 05:39 PM
/m1451

What a bunch of bull. Who taught you to be such a liar and drama queen?

You seem to forget you are the ONLY one here who has threatened people!
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1452
12-02-2006 05:35 PM ET (US)
/m1449

Read your own messages goofball (roll eyes). Are you brain dead?
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1451
12-02-2006 05:35 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 05:36 PM
When you assure me that i will not be killed by baba,I will give my name.
Only because we ex students fear baba's murdering long arem that we are all writing incognito.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1450
12-02-2006 05:34 PM ET (US)
/m1447

YOU, the hypocrite, were calling people names LONG before I came along. Besides that you slur people with your scummy lies. We tell the TRUTH about YOU.
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1449
12-02-2006 05:34 PM ET (US)
Are you blind .I asked you where am i feigning ignorance about some boys and baba being homosexuals .Tell me.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1448
12-02-2006 05:32 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 05:36 PM
/m1444

When you give us all your name, occupation and proof you actually went to Baba's school maybe you can boss people around, hypocrite!
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1447
12-02-2006 05:30 PM ET (US)
CALLING ME NAMES IS RATIONAL IS IT??
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1446
12-02-2006 05:29 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 05:31 PM
/m1437

THE BEST SOLUTION IS TO SEND YOUR SON TO PARHTI AND SEE IF HE IS GETTING MOLESTED.

DO IT IF YOU HAVE GUTS

DON'T TRY IT ON OTHER PEOPLES' LIVES.AFTER SENDING YOUR CHILD YOU CAN CALL HIM A LIAR. CHEAP SHIT POT.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1445
12-02-2006 05:25 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 07:00 PM
This guy is such a nutcase you cannot even carry on a rational conversation with him his thinking is so disjointed.

Remember how he was making comments about boys becoming homosexuals "because of Baba" and now he is feigning ignorance like he just figured it out? Apparently he has VERY short term memory.

Used buddy, you need to get some mental help. Like Dadlani, you obviously have an unhealthy obsession regarding homosexuals and pedophiles.

And get some anger management therapy while you are at it. You have homicidal tendencies.
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1444
12-02-2006 05:20 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 05:20 PM

SHUT UP AND SEND YOUR CHILDREN TO BABA'S SCHOOL BEFORE YOU SEND YOUR NEXT MESSAGE

usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1443
12-02-2006 05:18 PM ET (US)
You and Premanand are the PERFECT pair

AND YOU AND ALL THE GAYS IN THE WORLD ARE PARTNERS.DOG
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1442
12-02-2006 05:16 PM ET (US)

WHO IS TALKING TO YOU

usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1441
12-02-2006 05:15 PM ET (US)

GO HANG YOURSELF FROM A TREE YOU SICK FAT BUM

usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1440
12-02-2006 05:13 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 05:13 PM
student molestations all along and now you are feigning ignorance?"

crack pot When did i tell you that idid not know about student molestations??
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1439
12-02-2006 05:10 PM ET (US)
As i said befor, the ruthless lisa is a reality for me.
I did not get angry because of you mentioning premanand but because you called me a pervert.If i was close to premanand why should i call him names.At that time I knew only Swami Premananda, the God man who got caught.Why do I need Premananda or anyone else when I had experienced every thing on my own.Actually i saw only three fourth of his (premananda's)face i think.I just started reading his article. I could see that he had spoken to atleast one boy who obviously was a victim.I could infer that this boy was much junior to me.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1438
12-02-2006 04:58 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 05:08 PM
/m1436

Oh give us all a break you liar. You were the one acting like you knew all about the student molestations all along and now you are feigning ignorance? What a nutcase you are.

You and Premanand are the PERFECT pair. You are both as dumb as door knobs and liars to boot. Two sickos who belong in a jail cell.

Someone should lock you up in a jail cell and throw the key.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1437
12-02-2006 04:55 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-16-2006 07:04 PM
/m1430

If all those people were pedophiles they'd be in jail because their victims would report them dumbo. Nobody is protecting ex-students from being charged with crimes so your argument doesn't hold water as usual. This absolutely fits your pattern of being so dumb that you cannot see how idiotic and illogical you are.

So you admit that you wrote the emails because you were ANGRY, eh? Any NORMAL person would have gone to the police, not played mind games on the internet like a five year old.

Just another fact which points to you as being the "wannabe mastermind" behind all those emails.
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1436
12-02-2006 04:50 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 04:57 PM
Premanand ia a elderly man who has written against baba. I saw his photograph today.I had a cusory glance and found that he has spoken to atleast one student.if you want to know more, search for saibaba + homosexuality in google and go for an english web site ,not ex baba.com.Some students seem to have suffered a lot.I shudder the thought of being molested by senior students and also by baba. I would have gone bonkers. I knew so amny boys were involved in homosexuality,but never understood their pain. I think everybody goes through this helplessness in some way or the other.I met a friend from parthi and found how much his life has been destroyed. Some times i wonder what these people have done to deserve this.The only logical answer I get is that we have in our past birth were amybe a part of a similar cult and maybe used it to our advantage creating pain to others.I can't even write his plight,for people will come to know who the person is. Such a ruthless world and i am ashamed that i am not able to help this guy.Believe me .it is a torture to be a non devotee after many years of faith and sacrifice.Maybe the others who are in parthi have instinctively understood this and do not want to lose faith.Lrt me stop with this sentence,because anything i write will be used by lisa and joe to only abuse me.
Another student friend of mine told me that(this was a few years back) he cried profusely for nearly an hour in front of his relatives because he had trusted baba so much and then realised that he had wasted a major portion of his life.He was not able to cry in front of his old parents,because obviously they would be more shattered.Even if we all come together and accuse baba of being a cheat,it may not help.When we were students, we thought that our seniors were stupid to leave GOD but we were happy to take their place and wanted to be eternally close to baba,(this is how every devotee thinks)but neer did we suspect that baba will take us for a huge ride.

I REALLY REALLY THANK GOD A BILLION TIMES FOR MAKING ME GET AWAY FROM BABA

One reason why iam writing here is I do not want to ever misguide people and sin.ok i am stopping for the present.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1435
12-02-2006 04:46 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-04-2008 04:37 AM
/m1432

I think you have been in cahoots with Premanand ALL along bozo. Premanand material is the ONLY other source for mentioning Munni Aunti (in the alleged Betrayal letter) besides YOU. The fact that you blew a gasket when I merely mentioned Premanand tells me I hit a nerve. Not everyone is as dumb as you.

You are the source of the student list. YOU are the source of all the lies about the students being pedophiles, etc. WHERE are all these so-called students who don't even seem to exist except for in an email bozo?
Like I said, you didn't plan this out very well. In the end you have no "goods" to come up with to back up all your lies so you are left with egg on your face. Now all you can do is go around the internet guilt-tripping people, calling them names and creating more fake identities to try and make it look like there are numerous molestation victims. It's VERY clear now why you won't reveal your name. You are nothing but a two bit con man.


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1434
12-02-2006 03:45 PM ET (US)
Deleted by author 12-02-2006 03:54 PM
AngelicPerson was signed in when posted  1433
12-02-2006 01:59 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 02:12 PM
  
 Edited by author 12-02-2006 10:35 AM
I just went through the google saibaba homo sexual thing and for the first time noticed so many Anti baba sites. Premanand has done a lot of research and has done a good job. Now I understand why Angel or Lisa asked me about this person. I am surprised that so much has already been written and still no one has taken action against baba. Even I was not aware of all these web sites all the while ,then how can i expect a common man in India to know about baba. I have to apologise to Premanand, because i did write something bad in my anger towards Lisa.
_______________
I asked you about Premanand??
No i haven't.I don't even know who that is.Some indian writing against sb ,or something?
usedbybaba  1432
12-02-2006 10:34 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 10:35 AM
I just went through the google saibaba homo sexual thing and for the first time noticed so many Anti baba sites. Premanand has done a lot of research and has done a good job. Now I understand why Angel or Lisa asked me about this person. I am surprised that so much has already been written and still no one has taken action against baba. Even I was not aware of all these web sites all the while ,then how can i expect a common man in India to know about baba. I have to apologise to Premanand, because i did write something bad in my anger towards Lisa. All the time I thought that there is only one english web site aginst baba but found so many. Thank you joe and in turn of course, Sanjay.

NOW I KNOW THAT BABA WILL END UP IN JAIL ONE DAY


TILL TODAY I WAS PROMOTING EX.BABA TO MY FRIENDS NOW I WILL TELL THEM TO CHECK GOOGLE SEARCH WITH 'SAIBABA HOMOSEXUAL' AND READ TO THEIR HEART'S CONTENT.
usedbybaba  1431
12-02-2006 09:33 AM ET (US)
Thank you joe moron.I just read the article by Vir Sangvi and now i know that if you are stupid enough not to understand that baba is a criminal,even after reading this article, you will never understand.Your answer to his google search on baba's homosexuality is nothing but a cheap gimmick to save baba.
When he said he found a lot of accusations about baba's homosexual behaviour and you Dirty idiot is trying to confuse the issue.No one has accused either vir Sangvi or George Bush of homosexual molestations but when you do the same search with your baba, thare are lots and lots of accusations.How can you Joker equate these two.YOU ARE SUCH A CONNIVING ROUGE.

IN EVERY MESSAGE I SEE THAT YOU ARE A CROOK WHO IS WORKING FOR BABA, TO TRY AND SAVE HIM FROM ALL THE SINS THAT ARE CHASING HIM

usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1430
12-02-2006 06:34 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 07:30 AM
you idiot, both messages are right.The only fact not mentioned is that the writer is angry with Piush and he is trying to show his anger against piush.Piush or anyone in the Ashram

will not talk about the murders

for it is against baba and this writer is trying to put piush in a spot by telling everyone that Piush, who is scared to talk about the murders, has all the information and furhter, he is a molestor.

DID YOU GET IT

usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1429
12-02-2006 06:29 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 07:23 AM
usedbybaba quoted by Lisa
"I do not remember the date etc., come on how can you ask some one who was
treated shabbily and moreover i do not know the date on which i understood that he was not my God. Imagine you worship someone for years and he starts talking to you. You are in absolute awe of him."GOD" HAS TALKED TO YOU OUT OF SO MANY PEOPLE.NOW HE TELLS YOU THAT IT IS ALRIGHT TO HAVE SEX WITH HIM.SEX IS SUCH AN INSTINCT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH AND WITH WHOM IT IS CORRECT.YOUR VALUES CAN CHANGE ACCORDING TO YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES. when"GOD" TELLS YOU HE IS CORRECT

(BUT U THINK OF HIM DIFFERENTLY AND SO YOU ARE CONFUSED)"



usedbybaba:
NI AMMA YOU ARE THE WORST THING I HAVE SEEN LISA. I did not say 'you" Lisa is confused.I was talking in a general manner and here in this context i meant i was confused as anyone should have beenCan't you see that i am refering myself as you throughout this message?
When you have decided against seeing the truth, How will you see anything logical in what we Anti sai's write.
Through and through you and your friends are interested in only knowing, who the Anti sai is or which place he or she is writing from. The grammer , the abuse and all other unrelated things. Why are you here? tell me. Is it to really know the truth about baba or to support baba,irrespective of whether he is good or Bad.Your goal seems to be to support BABA at any cost.
By the way Why did you not send your children to baba's school or university. SEND THEM, SEND THEM AND SEE. WILL YOU SEND THEM THERE FOR 5 TO 10 YEARS. DON'T KEEP YOUR CHILDREN SAFE AND THEN ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO SEND THEIR CHILDREN.

IF YOU HAVE THE GUTS (JOE,LISA ) SEND YOUR CHILDREN FOR ATLEAST 5 YEARS



For the past so many days you and your are breaking your head to connect me to all the Anti sais and as you are not able to do it and frustrated you just abuse me.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1428
12-02-2006 06:00 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 06:27 AM
/m1426

Look in the mirror dumbo. Xstudent@rediffmailcom first tells people to contact Piyush as a credible contact regarding the murders. Then in another email, months later, he is telling people that Piyush is a pedophile. Are YOU stupid, on drugs or what?
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1427
12-02-2006 05:56 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-04-2008 04:23 AM
/m1266

Well, it appears the Hindustan Times does not want to publish comments which may be detrimental to their agenda so I will post my comment about Vir Sanghvi's article here.

In the spirit of openness that the atheists disguised as rationalists so much crave, would Mr Sanghvi care to reveal his religious affiliation? Has Vir Sanghvi EVER been to see Sai Baba or is he just another armchair critic?

Why is it that a so-called "respected journalist" such as Vir Sanghvi cannot even get Sai Baba's age correct?

Can Vir Sanghvi please give us some CREDIBLE documentation regarding any legitimate charges that have been filed against Sai Baba for fraud or sexual abuse?
Can Vir Sanghvi please explain to us which accusers he thinks are telling the truth about their sexual abuse and why?
Many people claim that all Jews are bad too, does that mean there is some truth to their bigotry and all Jews are therefore bad?

If one can be hung out to dry by mud slinging journalists such as Vir Sanghvi then why do we need laws or courtrooms?

It would be nice to see a journalist actually do their job for once instead of losing all objectivity and jumping onto the anti-Sai band wagon. I have been researching these accusations for four years now and have YET to find one that passes the smell or fact test. And EVERY irresponsible article like Vir Sanghvi's that I see written only serves to reinforce my view that Sai Baba is being persecuted by those who refuse to be honest and look at the FACTS. Such dishonest and irresponsible journalism is appalling.

Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1426
12-02-2006 05:55 AM ET (US)
sick lisa, don't you see the point.the point is this person is not writing an article. He is against Piush (if he is the same person) and I do not hate Piush atall. there is no contradiction is the point, whether he is one person or two persons.In one he writes his hatered for Piush srivastava using th homo angle and in the other he says anyone who wants to know about the murders, ask piush (the anger is clear)

WERE YOU BORN STUPID

CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1425
12-02-2006 03:20 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 03:25 AM
/m1414, /m1402

Once again you have been caught in a LIE usedbybaba, Both of those emails were posted by the EXACT SAME person having email address, xstudent@rediffmail.com.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1424
12-02-2006 02:22 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 03:13 AM
/m1422

Pedousedbybaba, you keep forgetting YOU are the one who claimed he worshiped Baba's linga because you thought he was God! So who is the pervert? YOU and ONLY you! I don't see ANYONE else claiming this idiotic tripe. Just YOU dumbo, just you. Not to mention you continually regress into talking like a pervert. Funny that you just can't see what a pervert you are but everyone else can.

usedbybaba wrote:

"I do not remember the date etc., come on how can you ask some one who was
treated shabbily and moreover i do not know the date on which i understood that he was not my God. Imagine you worship someone for years and he starts talking to you. You are in absolute awe of him."GOD" HAS TALKED TO YOU OUT OF SO MANY PEOPLE.NOW HE TELLS YOU THAT IT IS ALRIGHT TO HAVE SEX WITH HIM.SEX IS SUCH AN INSTINCT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH AND WITH WHOM IT IS CORRECT.YOUR VALUES CAN CHANGE ACCORDING TO YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES. when"GOD" TELLS YOU HE IS CORRECT(BUT U THINK OF HIM DIFFERENTLY AND SO YOU ARE CONFUSED)"

*******

No used buddy, I am not confused. I think you are a blatant LIAR.
usedbybaba  1423
12-02-2006 02:14 AM ET (US)

shut up lisa bozo queen

usedbybaba  1422
12-02-2006 02:12 AM ET (US)
/m1419

joe moron. go ahead and release as much GAS as possible . ooooh i am shivering in fear.Shit pot go inside babs's robe,better inside his dothi.Both of you will be comfortable.EVERYONE KNOWS THAT YOU ARE A PEDOPHILE,HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST WORSHPPER.IT IS YOU WHO HAS TO BE WORRIED NOT US
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1421
12-02-2006 02:05 AM ET (US)
/m1420

Trust me bozo the clown usedbybaba, I have PLENTY more where that came from and I am about to give it and more to you. Your game is over bully boy.
usedbybaba  1420
12-02-2006 02:02 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-02-2006 02:04 AM

SHUT UP LISA

OR I WILL SEND YOU TO HELL ie., to BABA. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT BABA MOLESTS BOYS, SEND YOUR CHILD AND MAKE HIM STAY THERE FOR ATLEAST 10 YEARS AND THEN TALK.YoU talk because your family (if you have one) is safe. That child you are sending should be a boy and if he is good looking it will be better.

YOUR DIVINE GURU WILL TEAR HIM TO PIECES

AND HE WOULD BE A PSYCHOLOGICAL WRECK.

TRY IT BOZO QUEEN

AND THEN TALK. TILL THEN

SHUT UP

Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1419
12-02-2006 01:58 AM ET (US)
usedbybaba, you are a pathetic liar. No one believes you. You are sick and in need of orthodox help. People who read your lying slop know you are sick. You are actually doing Baba a good service. It is people like you who show the truth about the Anti-Sai Movement. I will continue to record and update my page with your psycho-babble. So...keep psycho-babbling :-)

"Usedbybaba" Exposed

usedbybaba  1418
12-02-2006 01:51 AM ET (US)
joe, when you get a taste of your own medicine ,it is very bitter,is it.
See how it hurts, when we point out your weak point,not in any way related to
our discussion on baba. I am confused by baba but i know that you are sure of his gender-enuch. you are his page boy who knows that he is a 0.5 (puttaparhi language) and so you are notconfusedbybaba. servile boot licker.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1417
12-02-2006 01:44 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-04-2008 04:28 AM
Pedousedbybaba, YOU are the only one who has pedophilia on the brain 24/7. Everywhere you look you see pedophiles so one has to assume you have some paranoid mental condition or guilt complex. There is absolutely NO proof any other people BUT you have posted those messages. All those messages fit your modus operandi PERFECTLY. You constantly accuse others of being pedophiles. You have a FILTHY mind and mouth. You are CONSTANTLY gossiping about others who just can't speak for themselves. You constantly accuse others of abuse when YOU are the abuser. You spam the board with your filthy lies and messages.You constantly LIE. You use the EXACT same syntax. You are like a mad, rabid dog.

You are nothing but a con man used buddy. And a caught one at that. You prove it over and over everytime you open your fat, phony, obnoxious mouth.


If you were an Indian, you would know marriages in India are usually arranged by the parents and since many people consider Sai Baba their "spiritual parent" he arranges their marriages you liar.

Once again you are using this issue to distract from the fact that you have been caught out as a liar. You constantly contradict your previous statements and stories. You just cannot give a cohesive, believable statement regarding your claims you were abused by Baba as a college student. You cannot honestly answer questions regarding your claims.


Here is just one example of your smart...ss attitude:


How old were you when you performed oral sex on SB???

I WAS AROUND 93 OR 94 YRS AND NOW IAM 120 OR SO. now take this as a proof of my age for all your future discussions.you have no choice for none of you have anything to dicuss except this bull shit.

/m1414

If Piush was a molestation victim then how come he did not say so when he allegedly talked to the police? Gee, can you see how nothing you claim makes sense bozo? You sound like a screwball.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1416
12-01-2006 10:21 PM ET (US)
I guess I will take up the research myself.

Confusedbybaba is referring the following post on the SSB2 Yahoo Group: Post 51769. As one can tell, the originating IP is listed as:
X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 218.89.185.173

This IP resolves as follows:
inetnum: 218.88.0.0 - 218.89.255.255
netname: CHINANET-SC
descr: CHINANET sichuan province network
descr: Data Communication Division
descr: China Telecom
country: CN

This same person made 690 posts (using the same IP) spamming the bikerbabes site throughout the internet: Reference.

Therefore, according to confusedbybaba, I live in China and I have been spamming that link almost 700 times on the internet through numerous online groups. Therefore, usedbybaba is a big, fat liar.

Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1415
12-01-2006 10:07 PM ET (US)
Never ceases to amaze me how Anti-Sai Activists always lie to promote their views and smear campaigns against Baba, devotees and proponents. Confusedbybaba, why don't you TRY telling the truth for once and tell us all exactly how you are associating me with the bikerbabes site? I think this would exonerate the perception that you are a pathological liar. Since you seem so convinced you are right, surely you have some proof to back it up your claims? Go ahead liar. Make your case.

If you can't make your case, we no have no choice but to conclude that your defamations against Baba are similary based on lies.

usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1414
12-01-2006 09:13 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-01-2006 09:31 PM
Lisa: "I was looking at the alleged student list when I noticed the following discrepancy (see below). Persons are advised to contact a Piyush Kumar Srivastava for information about the ashram murders. But then if one looks further down the page to another email, one also sees Piyush Kumar Srivastava listed as a "Paedophile of Sai Baba"!

I told you Lisa is stupid and she has proved it again.
There are two people wrting the mails she is talking about.One is a victim of Piush (poor piush was himself a victim and he has no other choice but stay in puttparthi because his parents were staunch devotees and his father was a vet. doctor for the cows in 'gokulam'. The family even now depends on Sai bab for a living)Piush was victimised by baba and others and he inturn converted into a homo sexual because he has no other choice.If some student wants to get married, they have to get permission from baba and it is very very difficult. Many former students have suffered due to this jelous possesive nature of baba.Dear former students, my request is, please don't blame piush or anyother student even if he has molested you, afterll he was also a victim of baba.The names you have published are those of form boys and obvious is the fact that they were completely confused by their GOD's behaviour.One guy even asked me (not in this list of molestors and still a devotee) why can't we talk sex,afterall baba likes it sort of a thing , hinting at having a relationship.If i was also a kid like many of you (12 to 17 year old) I would have also felt the same about these so called sex maniacs.Now that i was not a victim of any of the students, I am able to think without my emotions.I know how each one of these guys were suffering. For eg., Diana (S.G) was fisrt molested by P.S and we all know how they had sex in "Swami's room" in the hostel.Diana then molested some other boys and they promptly complained and when it went to baba, Baba made him sit alone in the verandah for days together as though it was a crime commited only by diana and then forgave him by giving him an interview. NOW CAN YOU UNDERSTAND HOW CHEAP AND CUNNING BABA IS.So is ths case of Sonam, but sonam says he is not a homo because of baba.
but how can he be punished for being a homo by the world famous homo guru baba.





coming back to the point.One message quoted by Lisa is by a student victim and the other message is from someone who wanted to tell everyone
that piush knows a lot about the murders.For your information, Piush was the only person who was questioned by the police.Besides,He saw hand made bombs in V T I (Vocational Trainning Institute) where the elder prabhu was working.
SO DON'T TALK NONSENSE WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1413
12-01-2006 08:57 PM ET (US)
There was a student whose good looking younger brother was molested by baba. So this guy along with his younger brother told us that they are leaving that year because they lost faith in baba.Now all of a sudden the elder brother has again become a "devotee" and he is even denying what he told us. I came to know that this joker is making money using baba's name,now that his family is safe. HOW SELFISH PEOPLE CAN BE.
By the way,I got news about the bharwani brothers.Only jagdish bhrwani is still a devotee according to my source.
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1412
12-01-2006 08:48 PM ET (US)
Joe aka sexybikerbabes060"

EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED



 HAS SENT THIS MESSAGE TO sathyasaibaba2 · Sathya Sai Baba DISCUSSION CLUB IN YAHOO.ONLY YOU AND YOUR BABA WILL ENJOY THESE POSTS

Cute Amateur Biker Babes looking for playmate! Check their profiles here:
http://www.bestbikerclub.com/bikerpro/sexybikerbabes.htm"

HE AND HIS MERCENARY DEVOTESS WANT TO SAVE HIM BY CALLING ME A LIAR.
BUT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT HE DID THIS TO DISRUPT THE DISCUSSION,BUT GOT CAUGHT.
__

_EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED

usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1411
12-01-2006 08:45 PM ET (US)
Pedo Lisa"And just like YOU, exsaistudent aka xsaistudent calls everyone pedophiles and talks just like you. I KNOW for a FACT that you have been on these boards for YEARS pretending to be other people, trying to make it look like there are numerous molestation victims when the truth is YOU are the one posting under different pseudonyms, claiming to have been molested."

Anachronical pedo Lisa,As usual you are vomiting crap.
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1410
12-01-2006 08:40 PM ET (US)
If you have me on record furnish ir shitpot pedoLisa
You can call me confused by baba, because he has confused me and others about his sexuality.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1409
12-01-2006 06:49 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-01-2006 06:59 PM
/m1413

Confusedbybaba you seem to have a lot of trouble remembering what you told people. You have stated that you lived in Puttaparthi for ten years when you were younger! Now you are saying you were in Parthi from the age of 19!
I have you on record saying the first time something happened you were 19. Are you changing your story now?

You are playing mind games usedbybaba. When we ask you specifics (in terms of chronological order), you whine, you avoid answering them and you try to distract by attacking us and doing everything but answering the questions. You have even stated that you won't answer any questions ya con artist. Your games are wearing VERY thin. Joe just asked you for specifics AGAIN and you are avoiding by whining and throwing a hissy fit in order to distract from your lies.

And just like YOU, exsaistudent aka xsaistudent calls everyone pedophiles and talks just like you. I KNOW for a FACT that you have been on these boards for YEARS pretending to be other people, trying to make it look like there are numerous molestation victims when the truth is YOU are the one posting under different pseudonyms, claiming to have been molested.

You are playing with fire used buddy and you are about to get burned.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1408
12-01-2006 02:53 PM ET (US)
Psychologically confusedbybaba how much money are you making telling lies about Sathya Sai Baba and defaming others?

AngelicPerson was signed in when posted  1407
12-01-2006 01:42 PM ET (US)
NOW THAT HE WANTS TO KEEP HISR REPUTATION OF BEING NEUTRAL ,HE HAS SENT YOU THE MATTER THAT HE WANTED TO WRITE AND YOU POSTED IT IN YOUR NAME. SUDDENLY YOU BROUGHT SOME OTHER FELLOW CALLED X SAI STUDENT AND CALLED IT USEDBYBABA.IT WON'T WORK
_______________
oh,ok.
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1406
12-01-2006 12:49 PM ET (US)
YOU SOMEHOW WANT TO FIND OUT WHO IAM .FORGET IT PEDOPHILE WORSHIPER.
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1405
12-01-2006 12:46 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-01-2006 12:47 PM

MERCENARY DEVOTEE JOE



AS USUAL JUST POST SOME CRAP AND CALL IT EXPOSED.pEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE MATTER DO THIS.

HOW MUCH MONEY DID YOU MAKE BY SUPPLYING KIDS TO BABA JO(E)(KER)

Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1404
12-01-2006 12:18 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-01-2006 12:18 PM
confusedbybaba, when where you abused and how many times were you abused? Come on, out with the truth already.

One thing is clear, you claim you were allegedly abused for 15 years. If you were 19 years old (and a consenting adult) when you went to Baba, then you were allegedly abused until the age of 34, or from around 1985 - 2000 (since you claimed you are presently around 40 years of age). Not only do have no proof that you ever attended Baba's University, you refuse to divulge your identity, you refuse to divulge alleged details to your alleged sexual abuse, you ceaselessly lie about Angel, Lisa and me by calling us "molestors", "pedophiles", etc., and you refuse to answer any of these questions. One thing is for certain, you are confused and a pathological liar.

OKAY? lol

usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  1403
12-01-2006 08:08 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-01-2006 08:30 AM

STUPID LISA

YOU SAY THAT SEQUENCE IS NOT NECESSARY. DUMB TO THE CORE. I told your friend Angel previously that i was in parthi from the age of 19 and never said I was molested at that age. I DID NOT MENTION THE AGE AT WHICH I WAS MOLESTED BY BABA sO YOU ARE AS USUAL STUPID.NEITHER DID I MENTION HOW MANY TIMES I WAS MOLESTED.

I KNEW THAT YOUR FRIEND WAS TRYING TO HELP YOU TO ATTACK ME, BUT FAILED MISERABLY.
NOW THAT HE WANTS TO KEEP HISR REPUTATION OF BEING NEUTRAL ,HE HAS SENT YOU THE MATTER THAT HE WANTED TO WRITE AND YOU POSTED IT IN YOUR NAME. SUDDENLY YOU BROUGHT SOME OTHER FELLOW CALLED X SAI STUDENT AND CALLED IT USEDBYBABA.IT WON'T WORK
YOU SAY THAT SEQUENCE IS NOT NECESSARY.SO YOU DO NOT WANT ANY CHRONOLOGICAL SEQUENCE,SO IF SOMEONE SAYS THAT BABA AND HIS MOTHER CELEBRATED THEIR RESPECTIVE 70 TH BIRTH DAYS IN THE SAME YEAR, YOU WILL SAY, RIGHT NO NEED FOR ANY SEQUENCE OR CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER. YOU ARE THE MOST

IDIOTIC

PERSON I HAVE EVER HEARD OF.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1402
12-01-2006 12:25 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-01-2006 12:59 AM
xsaistudent aka usedbybaba messes up


I was looking at the alleged student list when I noticed the following discrepancy (see below). Persons are advised to contact a Piyush Kumar Srivastava for information about the ashram murders. But then if one looks further down the page to another email, one also sees Piyush Kumar Srivastava listed as a "Paedophile of Sai Baba"!

*********

MURDERS AT THE ASHRAM:

Too much has been written about that dark night. Many know the truth but keep quiet. Since sai baba cannot be questioned, those who are interested in finding the facts can contact either Piyush Kumar Srivastava, an ex-student who is supposed to have saved sai baba that night and lives at Puttaparthi, or Mr Dora, the longest reigning director general of police of Andhra Pradesh.

*********


List of Paedophiles of Sai Baba:

1.Diwaker Mutthu Krishnan (Stays at Hope Farm, Whitefield) 2.EK Suresh Kumar(Died in so called attack) 3.Sunder Iyer 4.Devsen 5.Mallikeswaran 6.Anil Kumar 7.Sai Giridhar 8.Piyush Kumar Srivastava 9.Bhishma Chawla 10.Narahari 11.Raj Kumar Jain 12.Haresh Mirpuri 13.Ratnakar Chawla 14.Ruchir Desai

There are many, many more who have destroyed hundreds or thousands of lives forever; victims of sexual molestation by sai baba and his pedo gang.


The Sai-Student Name List Exposed
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1401
11-30-2006 03:51 AM ET (US)
/m1395

Sanjay, you seem to have very short term memory (probably the drugs and alcohol). It was your pervert in arms, pedousedbybaba who suddenly has the childish gas fixation.

Maybe you two hot air balloons should start your own methane factory.
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