Edited by author 12-21-2006 09:08 PM
I am surprised that you are calling me Tony.I am not. My name is Meera Powar from Maharashtra.I live in Mumbai. We are devotees of Shirdi sai Baba. I have neighbours who are Sathya Sai devotees who claim the both Sais are the same.I find it difficult to agree but ready to accept it, if it is proved true.

Edited by author 03-04-2008 07:19 AM
Tony's problem is that he thinks he is a wannabe role model and guru who has multiple personalities (like Raghav, Meera, sivatayi_2000, humanzee, etc.) he just cannot keep under control when someone tells the truth about him. Yet Tony is very content to lie about others and play his childish mind games on the internet.

Tony's just mad because I know the truth about him and what a phony he is.


The BIG difference between Tony and I is I can actually back up MOST of my statements with documented facts whereas Tony spouts lies like there is no karma. I also spend much of my time judging people in order to help them get over severe illnesses whereas Tony judges people for pure vindictiveness and because he is a nutter of negativity who is addicted to it like he is alcohol.

Joe 108
I was never a devotee and I do not know much about him,except for the fact that I keep reading both positive and negative about him,in the press,T.V and now in the net. I hope you can tell me more postive things about Baba. I am a shirdi devotee to an extent.I want to know if Sathya sai and Shidi sai are the same.Just curious.

Meera you are right. Just see what Sai Baba has to say about such "devotees":

"It is no use indulging in arguments and disputations; he who clamours aloud has not grasped the truth, believe Me. Silence is the only language of the realised. Practise moderation in speech. That will help you in many ways. It will develop love, for most misunderstandings and factions arise out of carelessly spoken words. When the foot slips, the wound can be healed; but when the tongue slips, the wound it causes in the heart of another will fester for life. The tongue is liable to four big errors; uttering falsehood, scandalising, finding fault with others and excessive articulation. These have to be avoided if there has to be peace for the individual as well as for society."

- Divine Discourse, 12 July 1958.

And people like Lisa De Witt are now trying to deny their devotion and pretend that they are not devotees. They run away from direct questions but don't mind flinging mad and making gutter-standard attacks in direct defiance of Sai baba's words. Oh well,... Tigrett says that the allegations of sexual abuse are true, and even suggested that Sai Baba has murderous tendencies which he would totally ignore. What more is needed to prove that this is a dangerous cult where all forms of common human morals and decency are blunted and erased out of existence?

Poor poor Gerald Morneo, burying his head so far down into the sand that he no longer has a grip on reality. With the huge number of media articles, organisational pullouts, US State Dept travel advisories, two television documentaries, possible (British) governmental controversies, plus the fact that Sai Baba and/or his organisaiton are on the watchlists of almost every country, Gerald Moreno and his gang are still quibbling about how he hasn't been convicted.

Talk about swimming against the current. :-)

Lisa,you are only spoiling your health.In just three messages you have abused more.What is the point of abusing so much.See for yourself.O Baba
help her.This is too much. If you want to discuss,you should,But abuses make us very uncomfortable.I again copy your writing for your own review.

your foul and perverted
mouth
cowards
crybabies
perverts
liars
Tony's garbage
Tony how many times he has cheated on his wife,
done illegal drugs, etc.
badly in need of
anti-depressant
garbage
dirty thoughts
LIARS
inveterate liar
pathological liars
Your big ol' ego
stubborn

Edited by author 12-21-2006 01:08 PM
These are few abuses used by co2000 to abuse Tony in just three or four days.If someone abuses in a discussion,It means she/he does not have any matter to discuss.Her abues are below for all to see:

"phony.
complete idiocy or your inherent white supremacist tendencies
liar.
deaf, dumb and blind (as USUAL) to get it
lying, brain dead wannabe intellectual
irresponsible idiocy,
obsessive-compulsive disorder for stupidity.
Bozo
nutter of negativity
negative pretender
so dense (and evil)
YOUR rotten fruits
Pathetic
Babble
dumbo.
You are a disgusting excuse for a human being
Nutbal
idiotic little mind games? Only the ignorant and brain dead will fall for your evasive maneuvering
hypocrite supreme
sewerbrained pervert
braindead
DUMB it is criminal
school drop out
liars like you
perverts
sewerbrain supreme
disgusting potty
Perverts Anonymous.
big mouthed defamer


We see that you have a hatered for Anti sai Baba people,but is it not right to just talk instead of pouring out all your anger and calling them names.Are you trying to prove the Anti babas right???

Lisa de Witt's problem is that she is a minor guru to her friends and 'followers' and she uses sb as her credibility. So she cannot admit what she really in her heart knows--sb is a criminal fraud.

As is evidenced from the BBC url, the Govt and Courts of India are in the hands of the corrupt and super rich. sb is regarded as a contributor to political coffers, a deliverer of local votes, a creator of foreign currency imports etc etc. Many of the politicians are corrupt and sexual deviants, some like Rao were even convicted it was so bad. sb's paranormal abilities which he learned from his tantric conjurer uncle are just low level tricks that's all as any examination of the videos will show.

Edited by author 03-04-2008 07:06 AM
/m1565

You're living in your David Icke Wonderland as usual Tony the phony. The government of India considers Sai Baba a national security asset due to his paranormal abilities which the government has DOCUMENTED for SEVERAL decades. The government has done everything but shout this from the rooftops so the fact that you refuse to see it is a testament to either your complete idiocy or your inherent white supremacist tendencies (or both) which seek to denigrate the Indian government.

And you know exactly what that k-list post has to do with you.

Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 12-21-2006 04:16 AM
/m1567

Yes I have explained my position VERY clearly, liar. Like I said, You are just too deaf, dumb and blind (as USUAL) to get it. You incessantly repeat the same garbage over and over again like you have alzheimers disease. It is REALLY a bore dealing with such a lying, brain dead wannabe intellectual who is lucky he can remember his own name and go to the bathroom by himself and has to have everything explained to him a thousand times (AND HE STILL DOESN'T GET IT!). I'm not going to waste my time on your irresponsible idiocy, especially when you continue to repeat the same idiocies and lies over and over again like you have an obsessive-compulsive disorder for stupidity.

Edited by author 03-04-2008 07:13 AM
/m1568


Since when is it a law that says miracles must be validated by science bozo? You idiots can't even follow your own standards and get one of your accusers to file a lawsuit or charges so who can take you seriously?

I don't need to explain Baba's miracles. I have experienced them PERSONALLY from a distance. I have tested Baba's omniscience and he has proven it to me so tough luck, nutter of negativity. And I certainly don't owe a negative pretender like YOU an explanation. You wouldn't know a miracle if it hit you in the head you are so dense (and evil). By their fruits we shall KNOW them and we can SEE what YOUR rotten fruits (/m272) are fruity boy with the jesus porn and boot fetishes with misogynistic overtones. Pathetic that you try to lecture people the way you do when you are such a low life. Unfortunately you are the one who is so brainwashed by your own egoism and negativity it does not surprise me that you babble the way you do. Remember dork, YOU are the one who babbles like a brainwashed devotee on your blog and yahoogroup when you obviously have absolutely NO spiritual experiences to back up your babble. All of your incessant babble outside your devotee group about God and miracles is negativity to the nth degree. You've stabbed EVERY guru you've claimed to follow in the back bozo.

In short, YOU are the biggest phony there is with your pretense of being a Krishna devotee when you don't even believe God incarnates in human, a major precept of Hinduism.

Poor, Poor Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED"). With all of his "proof", even from devotees, Anti-Sai Activists have done absolutely nothing with it and Sathya Sai Baba has never been charged with any crime! No one has even tried to charge him. Keep spewing your rhetorical slop on these boards Sanjay. Nobody believes you despite your gnashing of teeth, breast-beating, foaming at the mouth and loud wailing :-)

Sad? Isn't it?

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Either Joe108 doesn't understand English or he has reading problems. In my last post I (indirectly) quoted two newspaper articles to support my "views", what to speak of quoting Tigrett himself - a longtime close devotee of Sai Baba who was the biggest funder of SSB's hospital.

Secondly, this is not even a discussion. Joe108 (and his colleagues) are neither devotees (so they claim) nor are they spokespersons for SSB and/or his Organisation. Therefore there is no need and no use of engaging in any form of discussion with them considering that they have nothing interesting to say, and only repeat the same turgid ad-hominem nonsense and spamming of their defamatory and slanderous links.

Joe108, you were served with a 48-hour block (suspended) on Wikipedia due to your disruptive editing and personal attacks. I know what you are trying to do; despite your stern warning, you are still misrepresenting me and my comments, least of all the fact that you were told that off-wiki discussions/websites are not within the purview of Wikipedia matters. Your incorrigible attempts to goad me are not going to work, even though it is fully consistent with your defamatory and slanderous behaviour over the course of over 12 months.

Remember, you are the one who started the hostilities with no good reason. That is an irrefutable fact. And Sathya Sai Baba is widely reported as a serial sex abuser, a paedophile, a murderer, and much more. Despite your plaintive claims about no convictions (which you are also being intellectually dishonest about) it is not going to change the minds of normal people who have all placed SSB firmly in their "no-no list", when this knowledge has made a full entry into the mainstream consciousness. Tough luck, you can't do anything about it except weep.

Sanjay Dadlani's (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") has no proof to support any of his claims. Long, boring and rambling diatribes are Sanjay's only defence! lol Now Sanjay is claiming that he has suppressed information about Tigrett. Do the lies ever end? Just as Sanjay claimed he has suppressed information about me posting on teen porn sites which he adamantly refuses to substantiate in any manner, fashion or form! No one can believe a proven liar.

Come on Sanjay, you aren't fooling anyone. No court cases filed in India, no police complaints filed in India, no first-hand efforts to even try to file a court case or complaint in India. The tide has turned and the crabs are scattering with their pinchers raised aloft.

re /m1555 Sanjay said:

"Sai Baba is certainly not divine, especially as his closest followers see nothing wrong if he sexually abuses little children and murders people."

Now he is saying, "I didn't say that he was a murderer per se."

As I said, "...with their pinchers raised aloft." The equivocation never stops.

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I didn't say that he was a murderer per se. My opinion of his murderous tendencies is based on Isaac Tigrett's statement in the BBC documentary which is irrefutable. Tigrett specifically said this out of his own mouth with no prompting, especially when the question was about serial sex abuse and paedophilia.

It is ludicrous to not suspect Sai Baba of murder given the ample evidence of his being privy to the whole affair in 1993, which took place in his own inner apartments. He doesn't need to actually murder people with his own hand, the simple fact that murders, rapes and suspicious deaths occurring in and around his ashram are reported in newspapers is enough to surmise that he has done absolutely nothing by way of internal or external investigation. He has never co-operated with the authorities and his own deputy at the time (Indulal Shah) specifically told the media:

"The matter is purely internal and we do not wish to have any law enforcement agency investigating into it." - The Hindu, July 10th 1993

This is all one needs to know that the Sai Organisation (operating under Sai Baba's direct control) carries out actions that are incredibly suspicious and questionable at best. Only recently an unnamed Sai official stated, "We do not care" about the US State Dept Travel Advisory for India. 'Nuff said.