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Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1557
12-19-2006 10:55 PM ET (US)
Sanjay Dadlani's (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") still making his unsubstantiated defamations and libel against Sathya Sai Baba.

Read this and weep, Sanjay:
  • Sathya Sai Baba has never been proven to be a "charlatan".
  • Sathya Sai Baba has never been convicted of any crime.
  • Sathya Sai Baba has never been charged with any crime.
  • Sathya Sai Baba has never had even one single complaint lodged against him by any alleged victim, first-hand, in India. As a matter of fact, not even one alleged victim has even tried to file a basic police complaint or court case against Sathya Sai Baba in India (the only place where courts would have jurisdiction over Baba as an individual defendent).

These are the cold, hard facts and no rationalist, critic, skeptic or ex-devotee can provide a scintilla of verifiable evidence to the contrary.


Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1558
12-19-2006 11:26 PM ET (US)
Unsubstantiated defamations and libel? LOL, his own top-ranking devotee told TV broadcasters that the allegations are true. What more "proof" do you need? LOL.

Never been proven to be a charlatan? Famous magicians and even street magicians can replicate his "miracles". LOL.

Read the transcript and drown in an ocean of your own tears.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1559
12-19-2006 11:34 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-19-2006 11:37 PM
Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED"), and what proof did Tigrett provide? It is clear that Tigrett was influenced by Alaya Rahm's claims because Tigrett knew the Rahm family well. Today, however, I seriously doubt Tigrett would say he believes Alaya Rahm. The fact remains that what Tigrett believed (past tense) is not "proof" of sexual abuse. No one can argue guilt based on what other's believe or infer based on what they have heard. If you believe that (which obviously you do) I feel sorry for you.

You have the shameless audacity to say that SSB "murdered" people. You are a big fat liar and everyone knows about it. The more you say, the more and more you are being exposed. I received another email from a past GD member who was thoroughly shocked about your online behavior. Tsk. Needless to say, rumor has it that it has hit Bhaktivedanta Manor as well...again. Tsk.

CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1560
12-20-2006 01:57 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-24-2008 03:09 AM
/m1555

Sinjay, I NEVER claimed I was or wasn't a devotee! You people are the ones who continuously claim that just because someone believes in Sai Baba they MUST be a devotee so you are babbling like a dunderhead as usual. I've stated my position about the devotee thing but as usual you are too deaf, dumb and blind to see it. I'm not going to repeat myself as I have had to HUNDREDS of times because you are so dishonest and dense.

And you should learn to mind your OWN sordid behavior pervert (/m272). WHY on earth would anyone who is SANE listen to a hypocritical wacko like you anyway? As I have also said many times, you have absolutely NO business judging anyone when your own behavior is so CRIMINAL in itself. Now get outta my face bozo. You are too dishonest to even deal with and I am tired of wasting my time on you. I'm not buying into your idiotic guilt games.

Read again what i said about Tigrett, dummy. Nobody has EVER been convicted in a court of law based on someone's beliefs (roll eyes). The fact that you keep bringing up such idiocy just proves over and over how dense you are. I wish you could understand just how dumb you are Sanjay. People are also sending me comments about you as well as other anti-Sais and their idiocy.

The anti-Sais have been regurgitating this same tired garbage for SIX years now. WHY? Because they cannot find one CREDIBLE accuser, witness or shred of EVIDENCE with which to build their case. WHY? Because there isn't any. WHY? Because this is a whisper campaign based on smoke and mirrors. It is a house of cards that falls down as soon as you blow on it. The anti-Sais have been trying to act like legal experts when they are nothing of the sort.

I don't know ANY street magicians who can communicate with millions of people around the world in their dreams or appear to them in their homes, Sanjay. I don't know ANY street magicians who can build free hospitals for the poor and provide drinking water to those in India who have none. I don't know ANY street magicians who have HUNDREDS of books written about them and are regarded as an Avatar because of their "magical feats". I don't know ANY street magicians who have heads of state from NUMEROUS countries asking their advice on how to solve world problems.

In short, Sanjay you are being VERY disingenuous (as usual) when you describe Sai Baba's abilities. This doesn't surprise those who know what a liar and SUPERFICIAL, phony person you are.


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1561
12-20-2006 02:12 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-20-2006 02:24 AM
/m1559

Good, God only knows what evil and sordid things Sanjay is involved that could hurt people.
Tony O'Clery  1562
12-20-2006 11:17 AM ET (US)

'Take care of them' sb said as he ordered the extra judicial killing of the boys at the ashram--dead boys tell no tales.

Most devotee writers are frustrated wannabees and this is a way to sell their crappy books. Like the dogs in India that stand on the pigs back and eat the poop as it emerges.
Tony O'Clery  1563
12-20-2006 12:00 PM ET (US)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6190417.stm

Is it possible one of the most corrupt judicial systems in the world is turning a corner? Perhaps there is hope to get sb into the dock.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1564
12-20-2006 04:37 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-04-2008 06:49 AM
/m1562

Look in the mirror Tony. You are the "wannabe writer" and a crappy one at that. Those people actually had their books published by reputable companies, unlike you who has to resort to self-publishing.

Some day you will pay for your slurs and lies. Some day the truth will come out about you and your sordid past.


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
Tony O'Clery  1565
12-20-2006 06:45 PM ET (US)
One day the truth will be allowed to reach the courts of India and even the rats in the Parliament will desert the criminal, murderer, pedophile, embezzler, imposter and fraud conjururer of puttaparthi. The he will have the prisoners practising their deviant sexuality on him --sb for a change.

Mind you he may die first, he is pretty decrepit for 78 years of age. I doubt he'll make it to his mid nineties, as he has prophesied.sic.

I don't claim to be a great writer or a great anything, and what has the reference to the k-list got to do with me?
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1566
12-20-2006 07:50 PM ET (US)
As I have been repeating over and over again (as seems to be usual to get Gerald Moreno to understand things), we have information on Isaac Tigrett that is not in the public domain and thus it is inappropriate to reveal. Suffice to say, Tigrett knew full well what he was saying to the BBC reporters, and it has nothing to do with being "influenced" by the Rahm family.

The trouble with cowboys like Gerald Moreno (and his sidekick Lisa) is that they were not around at the time when all of these things were breaking out, and they were not even privy to discussions that were going on at the time, much less discussions going on between devotees and former devotees. How terribly ironic that all their information is sourced by us (ALL of their "conclusions" arise from fetid speculating over information from OUR websites) and they think they know it all. Among a number of things, it makes us laugh. And laughing is all we seem to be doing these days, especially when Sai Baba is getting exposed all over the place and even his top-ranking devotees agree with us. :-)

Now Gerald Moreno is resorting to lies and personal remarks about supposed emails he has received form GD, a forum that is not even operational any more! LOL! Such off-wiki personal attacks may be considered aggravating factors in Wikipedia dispute rsolutions, especially since Gerald Moreno has been blocked for 48-hours (suspended) for disruptive editing and personal attacks.
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1567
12-20-2006 07:56 PM ET (US)
And by the way, Tigrett also agrees that Sai Baba can murder people and it wouldn't change a thing for him. What more proof do you need that this is a dangerous cult where the followers don't seem to have any sort of moral scruples, and who walk around like zombies with money? They will willingly turn a blind eye to Sai Baba's paedophilia and murderous acts while continuing to kiss his smelly feet and receive crushed ash tablets (burnt cow dung) direct from his unholy hands.

The only thing that the zombies can repeat is that he has never been convicted, never received a complaint, blah blah blah, when the allegations published in world-class newspapers and broadcast agencies (BBC etc) influence NORMAL people to put Sai Baba on their "no-no list".

Lisa, stop lying. You have never clarified your position as a devotee. If you claim to have done it hundreds of time, you won't mind saying it once more so I can record it for posterity. Bear in mind that I can see your posts on several yahoogroups that will leave one in no doubt that you are utterly devoted to a smelly old whellchair faggot who rapes children and murders people, and which Tigrett doesn't care about even if it happens in front of his own eyes. "Ah, it is just an anal sex leela... oh there he goes again doing a murdering leela, how sublimely divine!"
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1568
12-20-2006 08:04 PM ET (US)
I forgot to respond to this /m1560:

"I don't know ANY street magicians who can communicate with millions of people around the world in their dreams or appear to them in their homes, Sanjay. I don't know ANY street magicians who can build free hospitals for the poor and provide drinking water to those in India who have none. I don't know ANY street magicians who have HUNDREDS of books written about them and are regarded as an Avatar because of their "magical feats". I don't know ANY street magicians who have heads of state from NUMEROUS countries asking their advice on how to solve world problems.

"In short, Sanjay you are being VERY disingenuous (as usual) when you describe Sai Baba's abilities. This doesn't surprise those who know what a liar and SUPERFICIAL, phony person you are."


This is the type of crap that gets spouted out when brainwashed followers don't have a clue how to explain his "miracles". Whenever it suits them, they yabber-yabber on and on about how great and fantastic and wonderful his miracles are, and as soon as it is pointed out that all his little tricks can be replicated even by corner-street magicians (even I can hide vibhuti tablets between my fingers, duh), they promptly change tack and shift the focus onto his welfare activities that anyone with money can do and is not proof of divinity.

And then we talk about the supposed paranormal experiences - have any of these experiences been scientifically and independently verified? Even Erlender Haraldsson was able to uncover that the "ressurection" of Walter Cowan was disingenuous, but still the myth is perpetuated without the least effort to get it corrected. We are not interested in the psychoactive and hallucinatory experiences of brainwashed devotees, and we ar enot interested in welfare works either. We are concerned that Sai Baba is claiming to be God when he has nothing to support his position, and is abusing his position to rape little children and murder dissidents. That's it.

Don't try those lame bait-and-switch tactics with me. Sai Baba's "miracles" can be replicated by any street magician and you know it. Now tell me how building a hospital and providing drinking water is proof that he is God. :-)
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1569
12-20-2006 10:23 PM ET (US)
I didn't say that he was a murderer per se. My opinion of his murderous tendencies is based on Isaac Tigrett's statement in the BBC documentary which is irrefutable. Tigrett specifically said this out of his own mouth with no prompting, especially when the question was about serial sex abuse and paedophilia.

It is ludicrous to not suspect Sai Baba of murder given the ample evidence of his being privy to the whole affair in 1993, which took place in his own inner apartments. He doesn't need to actually murder people with his own hand, the simple fact that murders, rapes and suspicious deaths occurring in and around his ashram are reported in newspapers is enough to surmise that he has done absolutely nothing by way of internal or external investigation. He has never co-operated with the authorities and his own deputy at the time (Indulal Shah) specifically told the media:
"The matter is purely internal and we do not wish to have any law enforcement agency investigating into it." - The Hindu, July 10th 1993

This is all one needs to know that the Sai Organisation (operating under Sai Baba's direct control) carries out actions that are incredibly suspicious and questionable at best. Only recently an unnamed Sai official stated, "We do not care" about the US State Dept Travel Advisory for India. 'Nuff said.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1570
12-20-2006 11:27 PM ET (US)
Sanjay Dadlani's (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") has no proof to support any of his claims. Long, boring and rambling diatribes are Sanjay's only defence! lol Now Sanjay is claiming that he has suppressed information about Tigrett. Do the lies ever end? Just as Sanjay claimed he has suppressed information about me posting on teen porn sites which he adamantly refuses to substantiate in any manner, fashion or form! No one can believe a proven liar.

Come on Sanjay, you aren't fooling anyone. No court cases filed in India, no police complaints filed in India, no first-hand efforts to even try to file a court case or complaint in India. The tide has turned and the crabs are scattering with their pinchers raised aloft.

re /m1555 Sanjay said:
"Sai Baba is certainly not divine, especially as his closest followers see nothing wrong if he sexually abuses little children and murders people."

Now he is saying, "I didn't say that he was a murderer per se."

As I said, "...with their pinchers raised aloft." The equivocation never stops.

Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1571
12-20-2006 11:50 PM ET (US)
Either Joe108 doesn't understand English or he has reading problems. In my last post I (indirectly) quoted two newspaper articles to support my "views", what to speak of quoting Tigrett himself - a longtime close devotee of Sai Baba who was the biggest funder of SSB's hospital.

Secondly, this is not even a discussion. Joe108 (and his colleagues) are neither devotees (so they claim) nor are they spokespersons for SSB and/or his Organisation. Therefore there is no need and no use of engaging in any form of discussion with them considering that they have nothing interesting to say, and only repeat the same turgid ad-hominem nonsense and spamming of their defamatory and slanderous links.

Joe108, you were served with a 48-hour block (suspended) on Wikipedia due to your disruptive editing and personal attacks. I know what you are trying to do; despite your stern warning, you are still misrepresenting me and my comments, least of all the fact that you were told that off-wiki discussions/websites are not within the purview of Wikipedia matters. Your incorrigible attempts to goad me are not going to work, even though it is fully consistent with your defamatory and slanderous behaviour over the course of over 12 months.

Remember, you are the one who started the hostilities with no good reason. That is an irrefutable fact. And Sathya Sai Baba is widely reported as a serial sex abuser, a paedophile, a murderer, and much more. Despite your plaintive claims about no convictions (which you are also being intellectually dishonest about) it is not going to change the minds of normal people who have all placed SSB firmly in their "no-no list", when this knowledge has made a full entry into the mainstream consciousness. Tough luck, you can't do anything about it except weep.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1572
12-21-2006 01:18 AM ET (US)
Poor, Poor Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED"). With all of his "proof", even from devotees, Anti-Sai Activists have done absolutely nothing with it and Sathya Sai Baba has never been charged with any crime! No one has even tried to charge him. Keep spewing your rhetorical slop on these boards Sanjay. Nobody believes you despite your gnashing of teeth, breast-beating, foaming at the mouth and loud wailing :-)

Sad? Isn't it?

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