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Topic: Sathya Sai Baba 2005: Who Is He?
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raghav  1551
12-19-2006 05:02 AM ET (US)
I am a Devotee.As a Devotee, I request devotees of Baba to keep away from these sites.Swami can handle these things.Let us not spoil our minds.Sai ram
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1552
12-19-2006 06:28 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-24-2008 03:31 AM
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Most likely Tony or another anti-Sai playing childish mind games. The problem with the anti-Sais is they NEVER grow up. They continue to play the same mindless games, hiding behind phony usernames, lies, etc.. They are like hamsters on a treadmill, never getting anywhere. Just going around in circles, doing the same dumb stuff over and over again, expecting things to change.

Even when you tell them CLEARLY why they are failing and show them the DOCUMENTED proof, they STILL are too dumb to get it. They don't come much dumber than this folks.

Tony O'Clery is in his sixties and still acts like a five year old, and a very perverted one at that with all his obsessive babble about sex.



Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
raghav  1553
12-19-2006 08:53 AM ET (US)
Sai ram
I am veer raghav from Mysore. Sairam When baba says we need a lot of good karma to know the Avatar, we should be happy that we are able to recognise his glory.baba says 'when ravana kept talking about rama in hatred and anger, he was becoming more closer to Rama,because he was always thinking of Rama.Baba will prove it to the world his real nature.Jai sai ram
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1554
12-19-2006 03:45 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-19-2006 03:52 PM
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Yeah right, Tony. Sai Baba ALREADY has proved to the world his true nature which is divine. All one has to do is to be HONEST to see it.

And Sai devotees don't go around telling people what to do. That's something (bossing people around) anti-Sais ALWAYS do, not devotees.
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1555
12-19-2006 09:13 PM ET (US)
Lisa, since you are not a Sai devotee (since you do not behave like one nor do you agree with many of his ideas), you are not in a position to describe how Sai devotees should act since you are not a devotee. Furthermore, I am utterly convinced that true devotees of Sai Baba are genuinely good folks (even if they are philosophically ignorant) and this certainly excludes iridescent and irascible people like yourself and Joe108. Truly, Sai Baba is ashamed to have you two for his devotees.

As for Tigrett and his sexual abuse allegations, read it and weep:

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ISAAC TIGRETT
His dad talked to me and I said; look, I, sorry if this happened to your family, to your son, whatever, anyone would be sympathetic, anybody. I said; but it’s not changing my feelings about Sai Baba, it just isn’t.

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Tanya Datta
But even if it was proven to you that Sai Baba was a paedophile and a serial sex abuser, you’re saying it wouldn’t change the fact that he is your guru.

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Isaac Tigrett
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. He could go out and murder someone tomorrow, as I said, it’s not going to change my evolution, it’s not going to change the good things that have come out of my relationship down there.

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Tanya Datta
Does that mean that some part of you believes there could be some truth to the rumours?

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Isaac Tigrett
Oh, absolutely I believe there is truth to the rumours.

- From BBC's 'Secret Swamii documentary transcript

Poor devotees (Lisa and Joe), still running around like headless chickens trying to deny everything. Here is a top-ranking leader of the Sai Organisation making a statement to a world-renowned broadcaster that he believes the sexual abuse/murder allegations are true. And please note that facts about Tigrett have been uncovered which fully explain why he believes that they are true. As such information is not yet in the public domain, it would be unwise to broadcast it. :-)

Sai Baba is certainly not divine, especially as his closest followers see nothing wrong if he sexually abuses little children and murders people.
raghavPerson was signed in when posted  1556
12-19-2006 09:25 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-19-2006 09:29 PM
I am sorry,if i had tried to boss you.That was not my intention.I know how you feel.All i said was, as a devotee we are not to clutter our mind with so many unwanted things. In what way will this help us. If we believe Babaji is divine,he would easily handle these things. Instead of thinking about baba we will be wasting our time talking of other things.I am nobody to tell you anything.obviously,you know better than me. I am 62 and i thought i can just share my view and not boss over you.
SaiRam
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1557
12-19-2006 10:55 PM ET (US)
Sanjay Dadlani's (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") still making his unsubstantiated defamations and libel against Sathya Sai Baba.

Read this and weep, Sanjay:
  • Sathya Sai Baba has never been proven to be a "charlatan".
  • Sathya Sai Baba has never been convicted of any crime.
  • Sathya Sai Baba has never been charged with any crime.
  • Sathya Sai Baba has never had even one single complaint lodged against him by any alleged victim, first-hand, in India. As a matter of fact, not even one alleged victim has even tried to file a basic police complaint or court case against Sathya Sai Baba in India (the only place where courts would have jurisdiction over Baba as an individual defendent).

These are the cold, hard facts and no rationalist, critic, skeptic or ex-devotee can provide a scintilla of verifiable evidence to the contrary.


Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1558
12-19-2006 11:26 PM ET (US)
Unsubstantiated defamations and libel? LOL, his own top-ranking devotee told TV broadcasters that the allegations are true. What more "proof" do you need? LOL.

Never been proven to be a charlatan? Famous magicians and even street magicians can replicate his "miracles". LOL.

Read the transcript and drown in an ocean of your own tears.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1559
12-19-2006 11:34 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-19-2006 11:37 PM
Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED"), and what proof did Tigrett provide? It is clear that Tigrett was influenced by Alaya Rahm's claims because Tigrett knew the Rahm family well. Today, however, I seriously doubt Tigrett would say he believes Alaya Rahm. The fact remains that what Tigrett believed (past tense) is not "proof" of sexual abuse. No one can argue guilt based on what other's believe or infer based on what they have heard. If you believe that (which obviously you do) I feel sorry for you.

You have the shameless audacity to say that SSB "murdered" people. You are a big fat liar and everyone knows about it. The more you say, the more and more you are being exposed. I received another email from a past GD member who was thoroughly shocked about your online behavior. Tsk. Needless to say, rumor has it that it has hit Bhaktivedanta Manor as well...again. Tsk.

CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1560
12-20-2006 01:57 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-24-2008 03:09 AM
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Sinjay, I NEVER claimed I was or wasn't a devotee! You people are the ones who continuously claim that just because someone believes in Sai Baba they MUST be a devotee so you are babbling like a dunderhead as usual. I've stated my position about the devotee thing but as usual you are too deaf, dumb and blind to see it. I'm not going to repeat myself as I have had to HUNDREDS of times because you are so dishonest and dense.

And you should learn to mind your OWN sordid behavior pervert (/m272). WHY on earth would anyone who is SANE listen to a hypocritical wacko like you anyway? As I have also said many times, you have absolutely NO business judging anyone when your own behavior is so CRIMINAL in itself. Now get outta my face bozo. You are too dishonest to even deal with and I am tired of wasting my time on you. I'm not buying into your idiotic guilt games.

Read again what i said about Tigrett, dummy. Nobody has EVER been convicted in a court of law based on someone's beliefs (roll eyes). The fact that you keep bringing up such idiocy just proves over and over how dense you are. I wish you could understand just how dumb you are Sanjay. People are also sending me comments about you as well as other anti-Sais and their idiocy.

The anti-Sais have been regurgitating this same tired garbage for SIX years now. WHY? Because they cannot find one CREDIBLE accuser, witness or shred of EVIDENCE with which to build their case. WHY? Because there isn't any. WHY? Because this is a whisper campaign based on smoke and mirrors. It is a house of cards that falls down as soon as you blow on it. The anti-Sais have been trying to act like legal experts when they are nothing of the sort.

I don't know ANY street magicians who can communicate with millions of people around the world in their dreams or appear to them in their homes, Sanjay. I don't know ANY street magicians who can build free hospitals for the poor and provide drinking water to those in India who have none. I don't know ANY street magicians who have HUNDREDS of books written about them and are regarded as an Avatar because of their "magical feats". I don't know ANY street magicians who have heads of state from NUMEROUS countries asking their advice on how to solve world problems.

In short, Sanjay you are being VERY disingenuous (as usual) when you describe Sai Baba's abilities. This doesn't surprise those who know what a liar and SUPERFICIAL, phony person you are.


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1561
12-20-2006 02:12 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 12-20-2006 02:24 AM
/m1559

Good, God only knows what evil and sordid things Sanjay is involved that could hurt people.
Tony O'Clery  1562
12-20-2006 11:17 AM ET (US)

'Take care of them' sb said as he ordered the extra judicial killing of the boys at the ashram--dead boys tell no tales.

Most devotee writers are frustrated wannabees and this is a way to sell their crappy books. Like the dogs in India that stand on the pigs back and eat the poop as it emerges.
Tony O'Clery  1563
12-20-2006 12:00 PM ET (US)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6190417.stm

Is it possible one of the most corrupt judicial systems in the world is turning a corner? Perhaps there is hope to get sb into the dock.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1564
12-20-2006 04:37 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-04-2008 06:49 AM
/m1562

Look in the mirror Tony. You are the "wannabe writer" and a crappy one at that. Those people actually had their books published by reputable companies, unlike you who has to resort to self-publishing.

Some day you will pay for your slurs and lies. Some day the truth will come out about you and your sordid past.


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba
Tony O'Clery  1565
12-20-2006 06:45 PM ET (US)
One day the truth will be allowed to reach the courts of India and even the rats in the Parliament will desert the criminal, murderer, pedophile, embezzler, imposter and fraud conjururer of puttaparthi. The he will have the prisoners practising their deviant sexuality on him --sb for a change.

Mind you he may die first, he is pretty decrepit for 78 years of age. I doubt he'll make it to his mid nineties, as he has prophesied.sic.

I don't claim to be a great writer or a great anything, and what has the reference to the k-list got to do with me?
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1566
12-20-2006 07:50 PM ET (US)
As I have been repeating over and over again (as seems to be usual to get Gerald Moreno to understand things), we have information on Isaac Tigrett that is not in the public domain and thus it is inappropriate to reveal. Suffice to say, Tigrett knew full well what he was saying to the BBC reporters, and it has nothing to do with being "influenced" by the Rahm family.

The trouble with cowboys like Gerald Moreno (and his sidekick Lisa) is that they were not around at the time when all of these things were breaking out, and they were not even privy to discussions that were going on at the time, much less discussions going on between devotees and former devotees. How terribly ironic that all their information is sourced by us (ALL of their "conclusions" arise from fetid speculating over information from OUR websites) and they think they know it all. Among a number of things, it makes us laugh. And laughing is all we seem to be doing these days, especially when Sai Baba is getting exposed all over the place and even his top-ranking devotees agree with us. :-)

Now Gerald Moreno is resorting to lies and personal remarks about supposed emails he has received form GD, a forum that is not even operational any more! LOL! Such off-wiki personal attacks may be considered aggravating factors in Wikipedia dispute rsolutions, especially since Gerald Moreno has been blocked for 48-hours (suspended) for disruptive editing and personal attacks.
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