Edited by author 11-05-2006 07:06 AM
Lisa:"I also notice how he doesn't bother to inform anyone that NONE of the accusers were or are children and none have EVER even tried to file charges".

usedbybaba: I already told you that,filing cases will not help,especially in India.Tell me one politician or a power broker in India, who has been jailed.As I mentioned two days back,a three month old baby was accused of decoity and looting and withdrawn after the press reported it.Will that happen in U.S????
In another case, 2 years back, there was a arrest warrent issued against the President of India and The Chief justice of india by a jouranalist to prove that ANY ONE CAN GET AN ARREST WARRENT AGAINST ANYONE IF YOU PAY.With saibaba being rich and powerful, What type of justice do you expect ???
On the contrary, hundreds of former students get businees orders and many other favours from the rich and powerful,just by using baba's name.

Lisa: "Or that Vajpayee and two supreme court justices of India denounced the smear campaign."

With due respect to all the three, should we decide who is God and who is a cheat because vajpayee or any of these other people,have declared someone as an Avatar.

Sanjay,I saw a T.V programme a few months back,on President Abdul Kalam's visit to Puttaparthi.Mr.Kalam gives baba a rose(my experience says,he was made to give) and baba uses this opportunity to exchange his vibhuthi from his left hand to the right.It is very clear.

/m989
Joe is there anything in your message about BABA , who is the topic of discussion?

Joe writes in many names.Here are two more names to his credit. zadock256 ,vishwarupa 108.

Edited by author 11-05-2006 10:57 AM
Oh, I forgot. Not only does Sanjay's Anti-Sai Constituency label him as a "backward intellectually" "ignorant peasant" who believes in "impossible concocted stories of the 'Superman' kind", Alan Kazlev labeled him as an "adolescent f*ckhead"! lol And then there are the recent Yahoo Group posts where a user was thoroughly repulsed by the Full Exposure Of Sanjay Kishore Dadlani and called him a "DISGUSTING INDIVIDUAL".

Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

Blogged article coming soon about The Guardian newspaper article. As usual, it is going to be scathing. Thanks, no doubt, to Sanjay's big mouth :-)

• Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
  "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed

JOE 108 EXPOSED EXPOSED

SEE WHAT HE SENT TO SAIBABDISCUSSIONS2 :

JOE 108 EXPOSED EXPOSED


Cute Amateur Biker Babes looking for playmate! Check their profiles here:
http://www.bestbikerclub.com/bikerpro/sexybikerbabes.htm

NOW WHAT DOES THIS CROOK WHO PATIENTLY SUPPORTS MOLESTORS AND MURDERERS ACTUALLY WANT.MONEY and nothing else.

Joe 108 says he is not a devotee (all 3 joe ,Lisa,Angel Claim that they are not devotees,but fanatically and frantically support baba like an Asthma patient struggling to inhale as much oxygen as possible)- why is a non devotee so obsessed with baba , spending hours together(it is a full time job), developing a web site specifically to fight the anti sais.
Now if he wanted the truth,He would have started asking relevant questions,but he never does that.On the contrary he makes sure that no one ever discusses baba (Do you realise that even now we are not discussing baba)THAT IS HIS AIM,so seems to be the aim of all his friends.

Edited by author 11-05-2006 12:36 PM
Joe is there anything in your messages about BABA , who is the topic of discussion?

/m989 /m1002 /m989

For the record, Said Afshin Khorramshahgol banned me from his Yahoo Group for no reason. So "usedbybaba's" lies that I posted a link to "sexybikerbabes" in his group is absurd and just more proof that he is a mentally disturbed pathological liar.

Using "usedbybaba's" logic (illogic), he wants only money beause he is bashing Baba "like an asthma patient struggling to inhale as much oxygen as possible". "Usedbybaba" is "obsessed" and "spends hours together (it is a full time job)" bashing Baba on the internet. Therefore, UsedByBaba made the perfect agrument against himself that he made against me and others.

This board is about Sathya Sai Baba. Those making criminal allegations against Sathya Sai Baba are relevant to this discussion. If you think that you and your vulgar defamations should not be discussed here, then you should take your vulgar defamations elsewhere. Simple solution. Nevertheless, you exposed (and continue to expose) yourself as a mentally disturbed pathological liar with proof.

Show me the proof that I am making money off my websites? Show the readers of this board that Lisa, Angel or I are "pedophiles" (as you accused us of). Show the readers of this board that Lisa is a hooker, a whore or a bitch (again, your descriptions). When it comes down facts, you don't have them. You defame others without conscience. Therefore, your defamations against Sathya Sai Baba are futile. You are not reliable. Period. End of discussion.

"Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
"Usedbybaba" Exposed

As promised:

Paul Lewis, The Guardian & The Anti-Sai Hack Job



Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

• Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
  "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed

Edited by author 11-05-2006 08:20 PM
/m995

Usedbybaba, we should decide who is LYING and it is VERY obvious that YOU are a pathological liar. In fact, you are so disturbed you are now LYING nonstop. And according to your reasoning, you must be being paid for it.

And what are you doing here bozo? Go bother Paul Lewis, he apparently wants to listen to your garbage and you claim you have the proof to put Baba away. So put up or shut up ya goon.

Personally I'm tired of your harassment. As far as I'm concerned YOU are the criminal.

Sai Baba EXPOSED:

Can't thank you enough for the gift you have brought to this website. What a dedicated God being you truly are. My estacy was off the charts when I read your posts, telling of the vast progress and inroads you and others have made into bringing down this very unhappy Sai. My heart is so full of gratitude and immeasureable joy. Thank you, over and over again. I am grateful as well for the very helpful and infomative links you provide, letting us all know who truly works for God, and who really is a "devotee" of Satan Sai. It is my understanding that many who go to see the great satan sai are NOT really his devotees, but, like you and me and the VAST MAJORITY of others, we went to learn and observe in great detail, then we are ready to crack the codes on who this nasty freak truly is... the most evil thing the world has ever known. That's WHY evil Sai admitted he only had a handful of true "devotees," ie., drones. I AGREE. Big smile here. And they're fragmenting into more and more pieces. They can't get together on their stories either. Crazy Sai is the one who lied and tried to change the date of his own birthday. Duh! Crazy Joe here is a fundamentally PERFECT copycat example of "Earth's departing pedophiles, ie freaks". It's a fact he lives on a small welfare check... but only for a very short time. I promise. Smile. Someone in the high-up ranks, (I won't say who), is having "top-notch" fun gettin' the goods on him, and spreading it all around. Makes me smile the whole day and even into the night.

After God takes out the"First Chakra" on ALL these asshole freaks and renders them all IMPOTENT, (which has been done everywhere), the next "chakra" up is the "second chakra", having to do with their "stolen funds". Yeah. That also is happening more and more everywhere. Vast amounts of wealth, including lands, etc, are being returned to their "original owners." I've been privy to witness much of this transactional work take place. Yipee!! And I don't mean maybe!!! What will any of them have when they are "leveled?" Not a bloody goddamn thing, not even their pedophilic, revolting lives. Yeah! And an even bigger smile.

Ssb is scared shitless, it's easy to tell. That's why others frequently have to hold him up nowadays. He can barely walk or think. That's why he has a singular fool like Gerald Moreno gab himself to death, making us all puke, while he carries on conversations with his numerous personality splits-- Joe 108, CO2000, Angelic, etc, etc., etc.--boring and ineffectual "saiboy 108"... another of his "very revealing" names for yet another of his splits. I see our other savior friend, usedbybaba, just discoverd a few more pieces of Joe's fractured brain. Wheeee! Keep going, joe-girl freak. Next? Poor dumb Joe can't get anybody to admire him. They only scorn him for being an IMPOTENT wierdo freak. NOT EVEN SAI can do the fornicating thing with his "saiboy 108" ever again... not even on the psychic plane. I think these flying demons got their wings clipped big time. So sorry sick, disgusting, vile Joe. But the best part is, none of the world's true children have to endure any more astral rapes by demonic whores like Joe, and especially by this father of all whores, ssb. I'll say it again to Joe pig. Your tiny daddy is dying--tortureously and v-e-r-y, v-e-r-y SLOWLY. And so are you! Yeah! Ain't karma just great? The biggest smile of all.

Edited by author 11-05-2006 09:32 PM
/m1009

Barbara, I guess it doesn't matter to you that saibabaexposed aka Sanjay Dadlani has a jesus porn fetish and likes to drool over jesus pornography and that his sordid inclinations could be related to satanic worship.

I guess a person who professes to channel "Mother Mary" yet applauds those who fornicate on Christ should be held responsible for their blasphemy, shouldn't they?

Edited by author 02-28-2008 05:29 AM
/m1007

Hard to believe it took Paul Lewis "six months" to put this measly, poorly researched article together. I could have found all this info and written a similar article in less than an hour. Sounds to me like they were waiting in ambush for an event they could use to sensationalize the issue and this is the end result.

I guess the only weapon the shameless anti-Sais have left is to try and manipulate the journalists and politicians with their lies. How cowardly and pathetic.


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 11-05-2006 09:56 PM
How did I know that Lisa would use the term "media whores"? :-) As I said earlier, brainwashed Sai devotees go all ape every time a local positive Sai story is published in some backwoods nobody newspaper, and it gets replicated on sites like SBOI and RadioSai, "look how Swami's name and fame is spreading!" Tough luck, the big newspapers are all in agreement that Sai Baba does nothing all day except rip and tear the anuses of little boys what to speak of involving the British Royal Family in their charade.

Time for you clowns to go and cry yourselves to sleep. You need to quit while you're still behind. :-) Nobody is even the slightest bit interested in your irritating whinings.

Speaking of which, the Taipei Times is carrying a shortened version of the Guardian article. Yes, Sai Baba's black name is spreading. Everyone wants to know about the Avatar and his anal sex leelas. :-)

Barabara, no problem. :-) As I see that you're no big fan of Gerald Moreno (tongue-firmly-in-cheek), you might like this. Happy reading. :-)

Upon the publication of the Guardian article, Sai devotees were immediately out in force screaming, "it's all Swami's will!!!"

Yeah right. I needed to go to hospital after that, to get my split sides stitched up. :-)

Edited by author 02-28-2008 05:30 AM
/m1012

LOL...the term "media whores" is ESPECIALLY appropos considering we have an admission now that "journalists," and I use the term VERY loosely, are collaborating with known perverts such as Sanjay Dadlani (see /m272) to write their articles.

Too funny. Does Paul Lewis like jesus porn too dud boy? Maybe Barbara likes jesus porn too.




Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Admission? What admission? Where?

What have I been telling you? Stop talking for the sake of talking unless you actually have something intelligent to contribute to the discussion. Cough cough, not that you have anything to contribute since this whole scandal snuck up on you when you weren't atching, assuming that you are people who need to watch anyway. Someone looks in the mirror all day admiring themselves, don't they? Why do you keep flattering yourselves that you are somebody when you are nobody and that nobody gives a rat's ass about what you folks think? :-)

Now after questioning Paul Lewis' religious affiliation (as if it were even an issue to begin with, so what if he is an atheist?), moronic and brainwashed zombified Sai devotees are now talking about how he "collaborated" with former devotees to write his article. Duh. Any intelligent piece of journalism has to report both sides of the coin as I stated elsewhere very recently. It owuld suit Sai Supporters down to the ground if only one-sided articles in favour of Sai Baba were published, they like to dream about a fascist state where everything goes their way. Tough luck rednecks! It's Game OVER for you. :-) How the hell are you twists going to bounce back now that you've pissed off The Queen's husband? LOL.

Get a reality check, I hear they haven't run out at the store yet. And for Christ's sake, get some self-resepct while you're at it. I've never seen such incompetent ramblings from the two of you in your Forrest Gump voices just because you were totlaly unprepared for the Guardian scandal. Oh well, make hay while te sun shines... :-)

Edited by author 11-07-2006 02:57 AM
/m1015

saibabaexposed wrote:

What you morons fail to realise is that these things take months of planning and co-ordinated research, especially by journalists and reporters of prestigious newspapers (such as the Times, Daily Telegraph, Australian Age, etc etc) who tend to go off and do their own research in the hope of turning up something new. We already knew about this issue months before the date pf publication of course. In fact it was mooted as a front-page story, but at the last minute a development in a legal issue involving PM Tony Blair took precedence and the Sai Baba article was moved to Page 3. No matter, open the paper and it all goes BOOM! in your face...How did you like the distractions, Moreno? Sorry I couldn't take part while I was busy participating in this development...We run the Exposé and the Exposé continues.


WE run the Exposé and the Exposé continues!


And yes, I know all about what has gone on behind the scenes. This is the stuff I am working on while you idiots are arguing endlessly over who's a bigger pervert than who when the biggest pervert of all (Sai Baba) has just been exposed today (Saturday 4th November 2006) in a very nice Page 3 spread in a highbrow British newspaper like The Guardian. Of course, I already know which page it's on even though I don't have it yet. In a few hours I'll go out and purchase a hard copy. :-)

And your point is?

By the way, I purchased my hard copy. Maybe I'll scan it tomorrow if I get a chance. Nice pic of the old faggot riding his gilf buggy by the way. As one of my secret sources said, "he looks silly". Yep, he looks more than silly but I won't bore you with the details. :-)

QT - CO2000 wrote:

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H.H. Swami Saiexposedananda

P.S. The comments of Gerald 'Joe' Moreno (vishvarupa108), Lisa De Witt (conscientiousobjector2000) and Simon Brace (sai2uk) to this post will go directly into my Trashcan. This is because these individuals have worked very hard for their places on my Ignore List. [See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sathyasaibaba2/message/50190 for more info.]
"I almost went crazy twice. I still remember looking in the mirror and wondering who was that person in my room! I felt like screaming and had to fight to keep my sanity."- Gerald 'Joe' Moreno (personal website)
http://saibabaexposed.blogspot.com/

http://saibabaexposed.blogspot.com/2006/05...ughty-children.html < replied-to message removed by QT >

Edited by author 11-05-2006 11:07 PM
Are you drunk or what dumbo? I just made my point in /m1014.

Of course an intellectually dishonest swine like Moreno never tells the truth. He picks up on Pittard and Priddy's series of articles and tries to twist it around to me. If he had any truth in his heart (and money in his pocket), he'd be honest enough to cringe in embarrassment when you consider that the point is actually embarrassing for Sathya Sai Baba, no less. Yes, Gerald Moreno pretends to be a rationalist and non-gullible agnostic, yet he fully supports and "advocates" a homosexual paedophile who believes and preaches precisely those "folk tales" that he laughs at so much. Poor confused clown Moreno, doesn't know what to do with himself so he takes a trip to Iraq and blows himself up. What exactly is he "advocating"?

This guy believes/supports a convicted paedophile and murderer like Swami Premananda, and comes uop with some long-winded rant about how an "international DNA expert" had evidence that supposedly exonerates him. In spite of the so-called evidence, the Supreme Court (get that? SUPREME COURT) of India upheld the conviction and he is languishing in jail for murdering a disciple and raping 13-year-old girls. Or was it 13 girls? Who gives a crap any more? Moreno is a sick pervert, a bloody child-rapist worshipper.

What's the betting that if Sathya Sai Baba were convicted for his sex crimes too, Moreno would desperately dig around and find something objectionable, create various pages about it and make a big hoo-haa? You can't talk to someone who has been emotionally raped by Sai Baba, oiled by him and ordered to stay celibate. The silly fool is hopelessly caught in a spiral of despair and is being sucked into a whirlpool from which there is no escape. All he has now is to bow his head and kiss the smelly feet of a child-rapist and worship him as God. Poor fool. May God have mercy on his soul.

Edited by author 11-07-2006 03:33 AM
Well bozo, I guess if Paul Lewis can insult millions of Hindus, someone ought to be able to ask some questions about HIS religious affiliation. The fact that you continuously side with the anti-Hindus speaks VOLUMNS as to your idiocy.

And assuming guilt WITHOUT due process, which is what you thugs are doing, is a form of fascism bozo.

Edited by author 11-06-2006 12:02 AM
/m989 /m1002 /m989 /m1007

SEE ONE MORE MESSAGE OF NOTHING ABOUT BABA.This is enough proof that he makes Money disrupting the discussion.

Answer my question:BABA says My life is my message.Is he worth being followed ? Should all the criminals follow his message of life??

Lisa It is you who is abusing everyone from day one.
Why is that you have to answer anyone with words like Pervert,Bozo,liar etc.
and cry when someone calls you pedophile??

Edited by author 11-06-2006 02:18 AM
/m1021

Sorry, usedbuddy, anti-Sai LIES and perversion have a DIRECT relationship to the smear campaign against Sai Baba. If you don't like us talking about it, TOUGH LUCK coward.

How much are YOU being paid to lie and harass, bozo the clown?

Edited by author 11-06-2006 12:19 AM
Usedbybaba, it has been YOU abusing people from day one. Anyone can go back and see your LEWD and LASCIVIOUS statements which continue to this day unabated. You're not much different than Dadlani. Now get a life ya drunks.

And you should quit whining when someone calls you what you are PROVEN to be, liar, pervert and abuser.

sanjay:Moreno is a sick pervert, a bloody child-rapist worshipper.

ABSOLUTELY RIGHTHe is a sick vermin, who eulogises such bastards.HOW SICK AND SADISTIC HE CAN BE.JOE THE MERCENARY PERVERT
Joe why don't you talk baba.Talk of the murders that took place there.The materialisation vedio or his so called miracles.

Edited by author 11-06-2006 12:33 AM
I see usedbybaba is on another one of his drunken sprees. Does anyone wonder WHY the clown won't go give all his so-called proof to the journalists instead of harassing and abusing people on this board (and then whining like a crybaby when he gets his own medicine)?

We saw how little Paul Lewis came up with. More of the same old innuendo and smear tactics designed to stir the pot of anti-Hinduism and idiocy.

Edited by author 11-06-2006 12:26 AM
The funny part is I an infidel (as far as baba is concerned) has stopped abusing whereas the so called non devotees (maybe paid devotees) are continuing ( maybe we should remind everyone that they are P.D s(paid devotees) and NOT DEVOTEES.

These are my messages and see your sick answer./m871 /m861, /m855 /m854, /m848 /m849 /m843 /m819
but YOU KEPT ABUSING ME AND NOW YOU ABUSE NME AGAIN.you are basically a pig headed diaboilic rogue like you pervert friend joe, paid to disrupt the discussion.PARASITE.


SADDISTIC Lisa you are the pervert and pedophile.Go see the saibaba discussion club messages and even here.

Edited by author 11-06-2006 05:07 AM
/m1027

Too funny. Why don't you show people the posts where you continually talk like a pervert, bozo? Anyone can be nice in ONE post but you are leaving a trail of your demented drunken babble for miles on this board.

Are you ALWAYS such a crybaby? I've never seen so many men who abuse others and then cry like cowards.

And what do you mean you have stopped abusing, you liar? You are claiming other people posted messages YOU probably posted ya pathological liar! And then you are lying about them being paid and calling them pedophiles. You are CERTAINLY an infidel. And a VERY dumb one at that. How low will you stoop, stoopid?

Edited by author 11-06-2006 01:15 AM
/m1001, /m952

Joe, I guess we have to ask if maybe usedbybaba posted those zadock256 messages in SSB2 since he is now claiming you posted messages you absolutely did not post. I had a feeling when those started showing up it was someone trying to impersonate you in order to make it look like you were posting under other names.

Is usedbybaba doing this to you and me on the saibabadiscussionclub board (/m1027) with Dadlani's permission?

/m935

Angelic, can you please tell us how the pictures of Sai Baba came to be put on those posts in Zagreb? Also, do you know anything about Baba's appearance in Croatia during the war to hand out food, supplies and medicine? Do you know anything about Peter Kingsley-Ducane?

Edited by author 11-07-2006 02:41 AM
Here is some info about the REAL Mother Mary.
Let us invoke the REAL Mother Mary.

Blessed art thou amongst women

Saint Elizabeth, the wife of Zechariah and the mother of John the Baptist, was aged and barren when she conceived her son. At her cousin Marys visit, Elizabeth pronounced the second verse of the Hail Mary prayer: Blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus (Lk 1:42).

Her greeting elicited from Mary another classic prayer, the Magnificat:

My soul glorifies the Lord, my spirit rejoices in God, my Savior. He looks on his servant in his lowliness; henceforth all ages will call me blessed.
 

Excerpt from Lives of the Saints by Richard P. McBrien p. 451


Hail, Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee! Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

Edited by author 11-06-2006 06:21 AM
Lisa:"Anyone can be nice in ONE post but you are leaving a trail of your demented drunken babble for miles on this board."

Sick lisa when have you ever been nice , even in one post.It is now after such along time you write on baba's miracles(once) and now in /m1032 you have talked of mother mary without without abusing.GOOD FOR YOU

Edited by author 11-06-2006 06:53 AM
Nobody has to be nice to a liar like you. Look at how you treated Angelic and he was nice to you from the beginning. I knew you were an evil liar from the start. You are NOTHING but a manipulative ANONYMOUS con artist. If you want nice, earn it bozo. I don't owe you squat, especially when practically everything out of your mouth is a lie. Now go play your abusive mind games somehwere else. I KNOW what you are. When the truth comes out about you and your sordid history I will be saying "I told you so," like I did with Dadlani and everyone else in your decrepid crowd.

When I have to sit here day in and day out and listen to low-life perverts like you ABUSIVELY talk about Sai Baba the way you so INSENSITIVELY do, you are going to have to pay for it.

Edited by author 11-06-2006 11:23 PM
/m1031
Well those posters were put up by the organization on the main town square to promote the first public conference that was held here on Saturday.I was there and it was very nice.I don't think everyone managed to get in,the place was crowded.Meyer talked generally,very nice,he was here few times before and then a movie was shown ,about Sb's work,then a poet of ours gave a speech,she's Sb's long time devotee and finally there were some recitals and songs performed at the end.It was really festive.
I'm really sad that I'm not on dsl anymore cause i recorded the whole thing around 3 hours.I even took my camera and took some pics and recorded the movie.I would've uploaded the whole thing easily digital audio and video clips,but too bad i can't at this point.I'm getting a homebox tomorrow, but since the upload is limited i'll post some very short(few seconds) clips on youtube soon when i get it to work and a pic, so you'll get a sense of how it looked,it was a very nice place.

I don't know anything about organization during the war.I know it existed but as far as the activities go i don't ,since my father joined in 2000.I think Sb is really popular here ,proportionally to the whole population I've heard we have like the most centers, more then any other country or something like that.He's popular,even though catholics(and priests)attack and disapprove of him regularly.

"Peter Kingsley-Ducane?"
yeah, I've read that article on the web a year ago,but i can't remember what it was about, i'll read it again soon,maybe today when i find it.

Also about the war,here in Zg ,I've never experienced it,only once in 1995 when some bombs exploded in center when the war was to be finished.But other then that never,except the sirens,but nothing ever happened here,except that one time.

Edited by author 11-06-2006 12:04 PM
I am reminded, *again* by the Fall of Haggard, that christian minister who ranted for years and years against gays, how he fell!
[quote]
Haggard, 50, and married with five kids, has denied having sexual relations with Jones. But the New Life Church announced Thursday that the pastor was resigning as president of the National Association of Evangelicals and had placed himself on leave from his church while a group investigates.
[/quote]
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/loca..._15_5115225,00.html

those who rant the loudest often have little to say!

I like the quiet paragraph, with Evidence-links to back it up.

Oh rant has its place, the only way that I feel that a "wooden board can be measured" is to use both ends of it to maesure it by!
that is...one has to know about the "dirt" and of the "Shadow" of a person, as well as of the good side. Up to you and me, then to Choose
whether this "board" is sound or rotten!

I like what I see, here, on this board. the more of the "discourse", the more that any "empty-ranter" can be seen as empty of truth and content!
but again: often where there is smoke there is fire, the allegations agaisnt that christain minister has been around, i belive, for some time.

freestone

Edited by author 11-07-2006 02:32 AM
/m1036

The problem here with the "where there's smoke, there's fire" theory Freestone, is that when one goes to where the smoke is, there doesn't seem to have EVER been any fire.

I know from dealing with many people over many years, that there are a LOT of liars in the world. What we seem to have here is some form of collective behavior which attracts pathological liars who think there is something in it for them whether it is just attention or possibly even money as there are reports that people have been offered money to smear Sai Baba and I know I had personal experience which leads me to believe that there are people coming into the group for the express purpose to disrupt and cause problems. To me, two incidents I've encountered cause me to be very suspicious.

In the early 1990s, there was a man who acted like he was a regular at the bhajans and one night he gave me a ride to and from the place where the meeting was being held. After the bhajans, as he was dropping me off at my home, he started ranting that Sai Baba was a fraud! I was thinking to myself, why has this person been going to bhajans (acting like a regular) if he thinks Sai Baba is a fraud? He never came back to the group after that meeting. It wasn't until 2002 when I became aware of the internet smear campaign that I figured out what was going on. I also remember a woman who had a table of crystals and stuff set up outside the the meeting and when my friend and I came out she made the claim that Sai Baba was evil because he had burned her village and killed people in a previous life! Funny that she "just happened" to be outside the meeting which was held at night. Coincidence?

Martin Luther King was the victim of staged incidents also known (in the intelligence world) as street theater under the FBI COINTEL program in the 60s and early 70s until the racially motivated illegal covert program was exposed. Such incidents culminated in his assassination in 1968.

Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it.

Edited by author 11-06-2006 08:52 PM
i'll also try to upload a small audio clip mp3(8 minutes), Meyer talking about what SB is,but in a day or 2 ,when i get it to work.
I have sound forge,so i'll cut and paste that part only.

Sai Baba EXPOSED: Thank you once again for the incredible amount of hard work you are giving to this site. Absolutely LOVED your information entitled, "Gerald 'Joe’ Moreno Deception". It was hilarious, seeing how old cracked fool, Joe Moreno, got blown to bits. There are many more "cracks" in his psychic to come, I see. Interesting how he pretends to be a "spiritual" man at all. So did Hitler, by the way. Wonder why he lies and says his "encounters" with ssb were not sexual? Liar. He most certainly was "yanked" by Sai faggot... except to Joe it was not rape. It was a loving "invitation only"--four times in the physical form and endless butt f----ing experiences on the astral plane as well. How do you like them apples, you sick s.o.b. Joe Moreno? Since when did Satan Sai and Gerry butt NOT have sex??? The best part of the Astral Eye is for viewing rapists and such. But like I said, this Gerald butt f---k-ing idiot also was never molested by “others”, as he indicated. He only participated in physical rapes of smaller children. HE was the molester and pedophile. He molested two small boys, ages 10 and 8. That’s why he was thrown out of his own mother’s home, where no one could ever have any peace of mind. Know how I know?? Joseph and Mother Mary watched him. Joseph saw him rape the older one, and Mom Mary saw him rape the younger child of 8. He doesn't know I know all about his other vicious and bloody widespread rapes as well, but I do. I don’t care which lifetime he did it, do you? He who pretends to be so goddamn innocent. And though he is an impotent freak, he’s still dangerous for small children to be around. I will be contacting the local sherriff’s department, so they can notify his neighbors and have them get his ass out of their neighborhood quicker. Since when is a pervert pedophile ever innocent or safe for children to be around?

I listen to Mother Mary constantly. People everywhere hear God daily. There is no human alive that does not hear someone, some thing, some voice of Nature, some God somewhere. All children have access to God. No big deal. Some hear Mohammed the prophet, some hear Krishna the prophet, some the Dalai Lama, some Jesus the prophet, some even Mother Mary or Joseph. My own personal experience has always been Mother Mary, since I was a child. Simple as that. Since when did they ever argue over some small crap, like who was best or second or first? They all had a supreme mission of testing, teaching, testing, comparing... thereby receiving a larger and lasting mind from other revered teachers everywhere.

So all of dumb Joe's efforts to divide and split us all into warring factions against one another has grossly and miserably failed and re-failed. He is not part of the One Race on Earth called sane people. I don't antagonize nice, tender hearted, kind and good people like "usedbybaba", Carolyn or you Sai Baba EXPOSED, because I FEEL your many kindnesses toward me. I am in love with God and the One Truth that God gave us all to exchange and further investigate, even the truth of love. I don't give a hot damn who spoke it first, second, or even if they spoke it at all. Many folks clearly demonstrate, no matter what synagogue, temple, church or mosque they pray in. To me, little Joe’s stupid comments, trying to turn us against one another just reveals more of his deeply Satanic nature. We all are given sacred pieces of truth to hold in our consciousness, until it is time for further joining. To me, that is what this web site is really being used for, in spite of all the one lonely Joe’s contrary efforts. Who of us here on earth has the "complete truth"? No one I know yet. Perhaps someday I will, but one thing is for certain. I'll never be a devotee of Joe's. Not a one of God's children has the whole enchilada. Since when did Joe even ever get a piece of anything, like a mind or a genuine heart that knows how to be kind? Soulless freak. He talks about what? Being spiritual? When? Where? Since when did evil demon raping pedophilic, sadomasochistic, anal retentive, burnt out, blown to smithereens, dumb, queer ass, very large and mean ASSHOLE Joe, ever tell the truth about anything or anyone, ever? What a piece of SHIT!!!

To Joe: You see, Joe fool, remember that it was the ancient invader whores like you and your sai dad, that first brought that lasting good message with you about hell being such a fiery place, and the place of God's eternal wrath on evil… as though evil was any of us that are alive. No matter how much you TRY to disbelieve your father's awareness of Karma's Reality, you forgot one thing. It’s real for all YOU dark psychopaths of evil. How is Lisa, forlorn and lonely pedophiliac YOU??? How is Lisa/Joe, Joe? You see, dark asshole of "down under", your splits only entertain you. You don't even know that you are Lisa anymore. You are so completely and psychotically split, that you call your "female side", Lisa. Don't be surprised when I tell the world that you LIED about your celibacy as well. Since when is forced IMPOTENTCY, (and you know I ain't lyin', LIAR), known as celibacy, celibate “monk” of no religion--other than Sai’s cultish religion of SATANISM? You are and have always been a CLONE OF YOUR OWN FATHER, SATAN Sai. You WILL NOT ever escape screaming fiendish hellish HELL. There, only your own SCREAMS will shatter your very own eardrums. You who don’t believe in Karma, why is your own hearing weakening rapidly, Joe asshole, who doesn’t believe in karma being returned to him. Isn’t it your RIGHT ear that’s losing hearing? Want to be cruel again to my forever friend, who uses the post name, Sai Baba EXPOSED? I also enjoy being mean right back. Hearing any ringing in both ears, dumbo elephant man? Before it’s over, I promise you, you’ll be sending your left ear to your favorite whore, ssb. Think we all don’t know how to make it happen? Try using a razor—they say it cuts deeper. Did you mean to be so mean to all God’s children, evil whore? Getting the picture, dirty raggy-taggy, soon-to-be-asked-to -leave your one bedroom stinkhole apartment? I wouldn’t bother renting a storage space either, little moron Moreno. You don’t have anything to covet that costs a nickel. Why did you choose our mutual friend, Sai Baba EXPOSED, to stalk so much? Because he is so goddamn effective!!! And he makes perfect and logical sense to readers everywhere.

You’ll be losing all your faculties very, very soon. How is it also being half-blind? Howwas it tasting half rotten food from your refrigerator about two hour ago? See what I mean about the gift of SIGHT? Feeling watched lately? I could go on. Why did you think you could replace your own favorite Satan ssb? I know that was your singular intent by bastardizing this 'Quick Topic,’ yet you don't have one single "devotee", not even your LISA self. Because like you, LISA is also a falsification. I'm so sorry that she "divorced" you from any remote hope of ever becoming real. Sorry pig, we don't allow psycho-banana rapists and pedophilic creatures of horror and death into the world of the living... ever. Was it fun running errands for sick Satan sai, common whore, saiboy 108? And you actually thought ssb could or would ever "marry" YOU and making your whoring together legal? We know you're not a pervert or anything, ok, little copycat Satan?

Hope this “special post” interests you enough to include it in your collection you’ve gathered about me. I only had to read your crap you wrote about me, and I knew unequivocally that you intentionally twisted all the facts about these others folks that write against you too. There’s not a damn thing you or Satan could say to me that I would even remotely believe. Shit only comes from YOUR mouth, you cruel anal freak.

    


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Edited by author 11-06-2006 09:48 PM
/m1037


What did I just get done saying? Coincidence?
Just WHO is Barbara J. Dent aka Barbara Dent-Walton aka Barbara J. Walton aka Amen?


Amen 174
 
08-13-2004 06:03 PM ET (US)
 I have never been to India, but SSB has come to me in my dreams and meditations-I hear other devotees speak of his ability to do this. At first I thought he was a friend, a guide--someone who cared. Oh, how I was misled.

I was given a test--a big test--one I found wanting never to take again. Through a strange set of circmstances, I was led by Sai Baba to believe that sleeping with my best friend's husband was an answer to solving their marital problems. I couldn't quite believe this, nevertheless, I thought Sai was a supreme guide. I made a weak attempt to comply.

Confusion grew greater and greater. How could this be God telling me to do this? I had no doubt that the voice I heard was Sai Baba's.

Time went by, and I still kept my confusion alive, but never achieved full realization of the truth. Until...my husband and I were having difficulties and "Pop!" Enter SSB into several of my meditations. He said "Come see me in India. I need my mate." "What?" I said. "I'm married!" I just couldn't get it why Creator God would want to take me from my husband. I certainly didn't want SSB over my husband, my true love.

Then... more stories came to me from my family about the sexual requests that were asked of them in their dreams/meditations. What a horny creature--and I do mean "horny" in a devilish way!

I can't speak for those who have been psyically molested, but I can definitely speak of his torment to the mind,body and soul on the etheric plane. Devil.

I'm glad there's a real God that doesn't agree with sucking the life out of relationships and children.

Amen.



amen 198

 
02-15-2005 04:30 PM ET (US)
 I am a woman from America who has decided to speak out against Sai Baba and any other who advocates opening a woman's first, ie sexual chakra through penetration into the sacred womb of woman's life. My husband, John Walton, held the theory that any woman who suffered from a blocked first chakra could automatically be cured by this sick approach. He had a guide named Hinono given to him by Sai Baba, and together the three of them made mince meat of me and my desire for truth, monogamy and woman's search for life. Many of the women he slept with claimed they too heard Sai Baba tell them it must be done. Later, they used the excuse that it was being done for my healing alone, as I would not submit to this vile rape and incest of all that was really God. So one day when I was at my lowest ebb, Sai Baba came to me and forced raped me anally. Thereafter, I was raped repeatedly and tormented on the psychic plane for many, many years. I was nearly made insane and I nearly died. I couldn't even eat. I know killing me was their combined evil desire. I have found ways on the psychic plane to fight him back, and am grateful this vicious and Satanic man is finally being rid off our precious Mother Earth. I know who I am spiritually and Sai Baba now has no power over me. I want to tell you all not to be afraid. I work with a large group of women who know how to undo his evil rituals performed by him and primarily Kumar. They are all liars and do indeed know what is going on

Some time ago I noticed Gerald Moreno castigating 'Usedbybaba' for being a "faceless anonymous hypocrite" or something similar. How funny, considering that the very same thing could be said of Moreno. After all, whenever this guy writes an email to someone, there is only "Joe" in the Name Field. No Gerald, no Moreno, just Joe. Just Joe? And 'Joe' is not even his name, it is his nickname, allegedly. So who's the anonymous faceless hypocrite now?

And before Moreno comes back with some asinine remark about how everyone knows his full (real) name, let me be the one to reveal that I was the first person to discover his identity online. Back in the early days when he had the 'vishvarupa' domain, he was still passing himself off as 'Joe' to all of us without divulging his identity. I did some digging around and I found his personal website on Geocities where his full name and details were there, and I passed this info along to everyone else. Get that, Handbag? I discovered your website before anybody else and I found out your real name too. It's no wonder you started using your full name immediately afterwards, lol.

And while I'm on the subject, Gerald Moreno hid his picture which was on his personal website. What a flaming hypocrite this guy is, who makes fun of people's physical appearances and even creates false and hurtful pictures of them by playing around with Photoshop-type programs, is himself afraid of his picture that he had to take it down to hide himself from the world? Never mind, we have it. :-) We know what he looks like. Couldn't you have chosen a better hairstyle, Homoreno? :-)

When he refers to other people as being 'anonymous, faceless hypocrites', he is really talking about himself.

And while he is busy talking about himself 24/7, Sathya Sai Baba is getting publicly exposed. The Guardian article is being followed-up in several newspapers especially from India and Taiwan, and is being posted on various religion news blogs so the word is spreading. It's all looking very bad for Sai Baba, who has managed the feat of besmirching the prestige of the Duke of Edinburgh Awards and has pissed off the upper echelons of the British establishment. Tut tut.

And by the way, he even lied about that too: Moreno's Guardian Lies And Speculations. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Shut up and sit down you silly little amateurs. Get back in your houses when the big boys come out to play. :-)

oh and i'll try to post some J& L H. audio clips where they talk about their experiences.

Edited by author 11-06-2006 09:58 PM

"It is appallingly naive for the award scheme to involve young people and the royal family with an organisation whose leader is accused of paedophilia. Parents who plan to send their children on this month's pilgrimage ... should be aware of the danger their children are being exposed to."

Source: Tom Sackville, former Home Office minister (UK)

Edited by author 11-06-2006 10:01 PM
/m1042

Sanjay Dadlani, I wish you could hear how idiotic and immature you sound with your whining and egotistical boasting.

You bozos haven't accomplished ANYTHING substantial in OVER six years with all your so-called exposures and childish ranting. What makes you think anything is different now? If anything, the longer your obsessive Baba bashing goes on, the more ridiculous you are looking.

You have ZERO legal ground to stand on so just sit down and shut up "you silly little [hot air] amateur".

And what do Jack and Lousie Hawley have to say about the Guardian article, Kristijan? And for that matter, what did Mr. Thorbjorn Meyer have to say for himself?

why would he say anything,allegations were made ,documentaries were made many ppl know about it,many don't,it is what it is.

Edited by author 11-07-2006 02:43 AM
/m1044

Now we can see just WHY Sackville (what an APPROPRIATE name for such an ignoramus) is a FORMER Home Minister. You will notice former MP, Tony Colman, who also tried to paint Sai Baba as a pedophile without so much as an interest in DUE PROCESS also got BOOTED from Parliament shortly thereafter.

Perhaps those in England who are much smarter than the "silly little amateur," Sanjay Dadlani (aka saibabaexposed) smelled the VERY strong whiff of FASCISM floating in the air.

BOO YA!

Edited by author 11-06-2006 10:17 PM
/m1045

"You bozos haven't accomplished ANYTHING substantial in OVER six years with all your so-called exposures and childish ranting. What makes you think anything is different now? If anything, the longer your obsessive Baba bashing goes on, the more ridiculous you are looking."

- The Findings (1999)

- Several newspaper articles worldwide in international newspapers.

- Book publications

- Academic studies

- Several universities worldwise withdraw support and facilities from Sai Organisations to host their festivals (Adelaide University cancelled Sai National Conference 2003 and returned the sum of $3000 to Australian Sai Organisation).

- UNESCO withdraws from joint-sponsored conference in Puttaparthi

- TWO television documentaries; one by Danish broadcaster DR which caused censure of the Sai Organisation in Denmark (Thorbjorn Meyer's backyard) and blocked the purchase of Arresodal Castle by Sai Organisation to build Human Values school.

- Several hundfreds (thousands? millions?) of devotees defect from the Organisation.

- Other hard-hitting documentary by BBC responsible for bringing the Sai Organisation to it's knees. 80+ hourse of unused sensational footage still remain.

- Sai Organisation publicly embarrassed for besmirching the Duke of Edinburgh Awards scheme prestige by associating the British Royal family with an organisation that worships a homosexual paedophile as God incarnate on earth.


The above is an incomplete and provisional list of the major accompishments of the Sai Exposé so far, and Lesbian Lisa the Jesus Freak says that we haven't accomplished anything substantial. And what exactly have Sai Baba's supporters accomplished?

That's right, NOTHING!

Excuse me while I turn around and laugh into my armpit. :-)

Give me a call when you nutballs get yourselves a reality check, hey? If not, stick to your trailers and keep auditioning for the Jerry Springer show. Or should that be GERRY Springer, lol..

Edited by author 11-06-2006 10:40 PM
I'll post some audio clips and a small video clip soon but obviously i'll send it through mail.Wouldn't want it to be misused and stuff.
Anyway ,here are some caps from the mpeg i took on Saturday,the conference was on Saturday not Sunday as i said earlier.

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/2433/bitmap56wp3.jpg

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/6613/bitmap54nu4.jpg

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/4351/bitmap53ti6.jpg

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7886/bitmap61vr5.jpg

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7348/dsc01767rk7.jpg

and a movie was shown

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5813/bitmap9ec8.jpg


this is the building
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Now we can see just WHY Sackville (what an APPROPRIATE name for such an ignoramus) is a FORMER MP. You will notice former MP,Tony Coleman, who also tried to paint Sai Baba as a pedophile without so much as an interest in DUE PROCESS also got BOOTED from Parliament shortly thereafter.

Lesbian Lisa the Jesus Freak ignoramus, do you even know what an MP is? They are elected politicians/officials. What do you mean without due process? The due process is to table questions in Parliament which he did so. Do you even know what it takes to table questions? Don't talk garbage, you silly little amateur.

/m1049

So what? Sai Baba has NEVER been officially charged with ANY crime and he STILL has MILLIONS of followers compared to about ONE HUNDRED of you guru wannabes who are so questionable in character you should be investigated and probably thrown in jail.

Edited by author 11-07-2006 03:25 AM
/m1051

See what I mean folks? What you are seeing NOW is the REAL psychopathic Sanjay Dadlani, the pervert (see /m272) who drools over jesus porn yet thinks everyone else but HIM is a homo. The paranoid pervert will have to keep looking at himself in the mirror for YEARS to come now that his psychotic drivel is all over the internet.

And notice how Sanjay Dadlani is so ignorant he does NOT even know what due process is. Nor does he care. These are the types of fascist idiots obsessively whining day in and day out for so-called justice!

I'm glad that Lisa De Witt has stopped trying to use miracles and supernatural events as proof of Sai Baba's divinity, and has now resorted to referring to the number of followers as proof of "divinity" and "authenticity".

This in itself has been criticised by several Indian contemporaneous gurus, who specifically noted that the followers of Sathya Sai Baba are like sheep. If everyone in the world believes in Sai Baba, does that mean you should also believe and that it is a good thing? A lot of people support George Dubya, Saddam Hussein, and Adolf Hitler when he was alive, what to speak of Joseph Stalin. That doesn't make any of these individuals right in what they do/did. :-)

How far the supporters of Sai Baba have fallen! Now it all comes down to how many people are on which side. :-) Yet according to the Bible (which Jesus Freak Lesbo Lisa loves to read and quote from), only 144,000 people will get into heaven. Aw pooh, that discounts Sai Baba's followers then. :-)

"As a society we need a more determined effort to identify and expose those religious cults and extremists that pose a direct threat to people, so that they do not enjoy patronage that should be directed elsewhere."

Source: Hon. Michael Gove MP

Yes, a present MP, how'd ya like them apples? :-)

Edited by author 11-07-2006 06:29 AM
/m1055

Again, Sanjay is too dumb to realize it is persons just like Dadlani that this quote applies to (see /m272).

"[We] are very keen to get this sorted out properly and finally."

Source: Brig. Sir Miles Hunt-Davis, personal secretary to HRH Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh. "He said trustees of the award would undertake legal advice before deciding how to proceed."

:-)

Re: [Sathya Sai Baba Discussion Club] DNA: A Holy Furore Rages In Britain
"andy rye"
well...Jesus had his opposers during his time...NO
biggie
swami will still have young adults visiting him
despite negative propoganda. All the negative internet
publicity is not of much harm, because people are wary
about what they read in the internet ( unless its a
major publication CNN, BBC etc

Edited by author 11-06-2006 11:01 PM
BTW ,did you know ,that... 2 days ago Sanjay deleted almost 250 members from the group he moderates (Sai Baba Discussion Club) because he was frustrated that i have access to it ,eventhough I'm banned.



Hihihi

Edited by author 11-07-2006 02:20 AM
/m1057

It's already been "sorted out." You are just too dumb to get it. Just because the politicians in Britain are behind the times is no ones fault but their own since this info as been on the internet for YEARS.

Tony Blair told the anti-Sais YEARS ago that they needed to file police reports with the Indian police. The anti-Sais even have this Blair document on their site.

In a January 23, 2002 letter to Tony Colman, Blair wrote:

"...Foreign and Commonwealth (FCO) and other Government Departments are aware of the many allegations against Sai Baba. Our High Commission in New Delhi and Deputy High Commission in Chennai continue to monitor the situation closely. However, as I explained to you last year, there is little that the Government can do. Those who have complaints against Sai Baba will have to take them to the Indian police. No formal charges have been brought against him."

********

Get with it "you silly little amateur."

Edited by author 11-07-2006 06:27 AM
/m1059

Sanjay Dadlani is a PERFECT example as to how the anti-Sais operate. As well as how dumb, immature and idiotic they are. He is the PERFECT anti-Sai poster boy (with the word "WANTED" under it).

What the heck are you talking about, you silly twit? This is not about "old information", this is about new information relating to the awarding of the Duke of Edinburgh Awards. I see, the British politicians are behind the times and you are "with it", that's why you and your moron friends were knocked for six with the sudden appearance of this story and it's almost-immediate replication/development in the Indian and Taiwanese media. LOL.

Kristijan, say whatever you like. A full cleanout of the SSBDC occurred because many of the members are redundant and do not use the forum, therefore their memberships were deleted. Keep on laughing at the fact that you are a veritable criminal and a lurker, not to mention the fact that you are engaging in duplicitous behaviour. You don't even have a comment to make on the huge Guardian exposé, that's why you keep talking about photos and movie clips of a conference that no one is even interested in. Never mind, keep talking while Sai Baba's black name gets blackened further. :-)

Edited by author 02-28-2008 05:08 AM
/m1062

What are you talking about you silly little twit? This is ALL about OLD information and the fact that none of your cowardly accusers (who are ALL grown white men by the way) have filed charges like they are supposed to. Instead, they have braindead thugs like you recruiting journalists to write smear articles.

Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Lesbo Lisa is far too thick to get it. The private secretary of the Queen's husband is very keen to sort out "this horrible mess", which just goes to show how that faggot child rapist has irked the moods of the highest members of the British monarchy, LOL. The reputation of the Duke of Edinburgh scheme is also in doubt and this needs to be corrected. Everyone else agrees with this too; Tom Sackville and Michael Gove to cite just two examples. Upstanding members of the British political establishment, and all Lying Lisa can do is flap her arms and bleat that we have accomplished "nothing".

LOL.

Lisa, get it into your thick skull: The issue of the Duke of Edinburgh Awards has never been reported, thus it is a new story. DNA-India says that a holy furore is raging in Britain and they are right. Everyone is up in arms against your faggot child rapist guru who has even managed to piss off the Queen! Not a hard task when he is a big queen himself eh? ;-)

It's amazing how deep in denial these brainwashed morons are! :-)

And where's Moreno? Not that I'm actually interested, but I wonder why he has left Lisa to bark on his behalf in his absence? :-)

Keep yapping about the "lack of due process" when you have no idea of what you're talking about. The world still turns and the sun is setting on Sai Baba. :-)

As you can see, it's pretty hard to have an intelligent conversation with people like Sanjay Dadlani and usedbybaba who continually degenerate into five year old psycho babble and who REFUSE to face the REALITY that NO charges have been filed against Sai Baba because the cowardly accusers who are ALL grown men are hiding out while thugs like Dadlani do their dirty work for them.

No need to have two people dealing with a dummy like you Sanjay. You are a waste of time anyway as braindead as you are.

Edited by author 11-07-2006 12:34 AM
Intelligent conversation ?!?!?! Pfffffft! History has shown that it is impossible to have an "intelligent conversation" with Sai devotees, given that they have extremely little intelligence to begin with. :-)

For people to have an intelligent conversation assumes that the participants must have some intelligence initially. :-) Lisa's lack of intelligence is clearly apparent in her use of invectives and ad-hominem attacks which she is world-famous for employing whenever she runs out of "points" to make. Bearing in mind that any of the "points" made are out-of-date and irrelevant, not to mention displaying an utter obliviousness of the pertinent issues, there is no use in bringing useless points to the table such as Tony Colman's alleged discussion of Sathya Sai Baba in the Houses of Parliament "without following the due process" and similar silly remarks.

Read all about it!

"It is plainly clear that Moreno is very bitter about missing out on this sensational and huge Guardian exposé which is why he is coming out with all of these invectives, slanders, conspiracy theories and general quackery only after everyone else has packed up and gone home for the evening."

The exact same is true of his colleague, Lisa De Witt (CO2 = Hot Air), it is nearly as bitter as the pill she had to swallow when I warned her months in advance of the BBC movie. :-)

The words "intelligent" and "conversation" are absent from Lisa's extensive vocabulary. She is "intelligent" enough to transform the word "dictator" into a reference to penises, but she finds it mentally impossible to comprehend how Sai Baba's blackened name will continue to be blackened even more. :-)

Intelligent conversation? I'm going to have fun with that for years. My neighbour's cat is more intelligent that Lisa De Witt, LOL. or as Jody Radzik might say, his dog's ass is more intelligent than Lisa. So shall it be, so shall it be done. Ityalam.

Sai Baba's black name is now blackened in the Indian and Taiwanese press (so far). Got a problem? Take it up with them. The British press are all laughing at this "living god" who is nothing but a child raping paeodphile who has been drooling for over two years at the planeload of boys heading to Puttaparthi in the next two weeks. Why not? He gave a "divine commandment" to that effect anyway, so why should his orders not be followed? :-)

Edited by author 11-07-2006 04:35 AM
To recap, for those who are not braindead like Sanjay. The reason the anti-Sai Baba smear campaign has done nothing but spin its wheels for the last six years is because the accusers who are ALL grown white men (and who were ADULTS when they claim to have been sexually abused), are too cowardly to file charges with the Indian police.

Instead, the anti-Sais would prefer to play the propaganda patsy on the internet and live with their heads in the sand because they have ABSOLUTELY no CREDIBLE victims who will file charges.

It doesn't matter HOW many politicians they run to...they ALREADY ran to Tony Blair (remember dumbo Dadlani?) who unequivocally told them that the "Government could do NOTHING."

The question is, just HOW dumb are the anti-Sais that they cannot understand that NO complaints have been filed in India?

How DUMB can they be?

Mindless repeating of the same garbage again and again.

The world doesn't care.

Got it? The world only cares that Sathya Sai Baba is a strongly-suspected homosexual paedophile who is about to receive an entire plane-load of fresh young juicy boys for "humanitarian purposes", and that this has brought the prestige of the Duke of Edinburgh Awards into disrepute, not to mention the embarrassment to the British Royal family?

Nobody else seems to mind that there have been no charges. The mere whiff of suspicion is enough and Sathya Sai Baba certainly has buckets of that.

"Intelligent conversation"? Don't make me laugh!

Moron Moreno: Why do you keep posting Carolyn's messages under my name?

Edited by author 11-07-2006 06:22 AM
/m1072

LOOK IN THE MIRROR DUMBO, that's what you have been doing for the last SIX years (spinning your wheels) and look where it hasn't gotten you.

Time to grow up and face reality bozo.

In a January 23, 2002 letter to Tony Colman, Blair wrote:

"...Foreign and Commonwealth (FCO) and other Government Departments are aware of the many allegations against Sai Baba. Our High Commission in New Delhi and Deputy High Commission in Chennai continue to monitor the situation closely. However, as I explained to you last year, there is little that the Government can do. Those who have complaints against Sai Baba will have to take them to the Indian police. No formal charges have been brought against him."

********

Get with it "you silly little amateur."

What a bunch of Anti-Sai Whackos. Time for an update:

• Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
  "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed

Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

Edited by author 11-07-2006 01:46 AM
/m1075

BTW Joe, in message 300 on the other board, Barbara claims her friend's name is Carolyn Feice with email address carolynfeice@yahoo.com

I do not see any Carolyn Feice listed as a real person on people search.
However, Barbara J. Dent, Barbara J. Walton and Barbara Dent are all listed.

Edited by author 11-07-2006 09:55 AM
"Kristijan, say whatever you like. A full cleanout of the SSBDC occurred because many of the members are redundant and do not use the forum, therefore their memberships were deleted. Keep on laughing at the fact that you are a veritable criminal and a lurker"

_______________

LOL of course not, you deleted all those members out of sheer frustration when you realized i still have access to your group.
You can't do anything about it,stop fuming and move on.My usernames will always be a member of your group.All is One
Hihihiiiiii



btw,How am i a veritable criminal ???


because i post messages from your group on another forum.
Is that criminal activity,since when??
HAhaha,very funny.




"You don't even have a comment to make on the huge Guardian exposé, that's why you keep talking about photos and movie clips of a conference that no one is even interested in"

__________________

You wish you were there to sing the bhajans .You're upset that you weren't there to ask Meyer questions.
You're all about singing bhajans.
Hihiiiiii


so ,should i say nobody is interested in your blog?
Cause You always have ZERO comments left?

Edited by author 11-07-2006 11:45 PM
Kristijan, you are a liar. More than that, you have an extraordinarily inflated opinion of yourself. If you seriously believe that I would remove over 250 members (your figure) in an attempt to find you, then you are thick as well as deluded. And you didn't even know that I am just a moderator there, not an admin/owner. Duh.

You are a veritable criminal because you have been banned from the group for repeatedly disobeying the rules. It is against the rules to post messages from that group on other forums/sites without the permission of the original poster. You have done this repeatedly despite being requested not to do so several times. Your last post there was a deliberate copy-paste of my posting on this forum when I did not give you permission to do so, in a deliberate attempt to start some kind of argument or fight. Too bad it backfired on you. And even after your banning, you continue to be a surreptitious lurker. I don't need to ask Thorbjorn Meyer any questions; he exposed himself as a fool on National TV the day after the 'SEDUCED' documentary was broadcast in Denmark.

More than that, you have revealed that you are wholly biased in favour of Sathya Sai Baba. This is proven by your repeated copy-pastes of messages by Andy Rye, and your constant droppings about your attendances at Sai conferences and the like. You even misrepresent the discussions going on there by not referencing messages by Ayasha Alden and others, which proves your bias. It's hilarious that you pretend not to be a devotee when you so obviously are, in spite of not being able to give a clear answer when you have been asked several times (and by different people) what your interest in the SSB controversy is. As for your contributions, pfft. You are not a serious poster because you are here just to play games. You are not interested in the SSB controversy because you are here just to support the international worship of a old guru who rapes little children. Thus, you are a deceitful liar.

Nobody is interested in my blog? Yeah, that's why the average daily visitors has moved up from 108 to 116. And as of right now, the total number of visitors since registration has passed the 19,000 mark. LOL. You clearly do not read my blog, because you are not aware of the number of comments registered for past postings that are still ongoing conversations. Your methods are deceit and deception. You are a lurker. Oh, and by the way, since you are such a big fan of Andy Rye, you may be interested to know that he hates Jews as well as black people. Even though he was employing an example, he deliberately chose to say "All Jews are arseholes". It's good to know that you admire and associate with openly racist Sai devotees who harbour prejudice for black people (calling them "niggers") and Jews. Sai Ram.

Hi Usedbybaba, sai baba EXPOSED, Barbara and other good anti-sb activists,

Sorry it's taken me awhile to get back to writing here. Barbara's been telling me that you've been winning a good battle against this evil ssb. I can see that is the truth. Thank you for such great rewarding efforts you've all made. I read joeblow108s childish and deceptive little quips he wrote in his crap-called "Barbara Dent Exposed", and I wanted to point out what a deliberately deceptive piece of shit that he is. In "Barbara Dent Exposed", he claims that BARBARA said she had sex with a married man. He lied. A drowning man tries to grab at anything he can. He posted one of my messages under her name, then wrote above MY story, "Barbara Dent had sex with a married man: Blames Sai Baba".

Here's my story I alone wrote:
"I was given a test--a big test--one I found wanting never to take again. Through a strange set of circmstances, I was led by Sai Baba to believe that sleeping with my best friend's husband was an answer to solving their marital problems. I couldn't quite believe this, nevertheless, I thought Sai was a supreme guide. I made a weak attempt to comply. Confusion grew greater and greater. How could this be God telling me to do this? I had no doubt that the voice I heard was Sai Baba's."

To further clarify,
I NEVER said I had sex with a married man. As you can read for yourself, I said, and I quote, "I made a weak attempt to comply." Meaning, I consented to a little meaningless slobbering BUT THAT'S ALL!!! I allowed no penile penetration WHATSOEVER!!! Here's the best joke of all on joe. He tries so hard to defile Barbara's name that he accused us BOTH of having sex with a married man. Do you see what I mean about this man's deceptive INTENT?

Now, for you saiboy108, a.k.a., a.k.a, a.k.a, a.k.a, ......... You couldn't find a Carolyn Feice on people search. Of course you couldn't ding dong. Ding aling. I never said my last name was Feice, now did I? Know why? It ain't!!!! Sorry you lose again. Boy are you dumb!!! That was just my e-mail address, not my last name, not even my middle. Duh!

And for your information, I am the one who posted under AMEN. NOT BARBARA. Can you get that through your thick skull? Probably not. When I first started writing in the SB Molestation of Students site, I was writing under the name "Amen" because I was so grateful that there was a site that was calling sb out on his crap, and I said AMEN!!! Any further discussion, buzz brain? I no longer use that name, just in case you go looking.

Just by those examples alone, you could discredit everything Joe has deceptively written about everyone!! AND I DO!! Duhhhhh. This kind of intentional deception turns off anybody that is sincerely searching for the truth. You really blow your own case, joe blow.

Just for the record, here's my post name I have been regularly using-Carolyn/Kickbaaabaaa'sass. I also went by kickbaaabaaa's butt for a short time... same thing, actually. One time on a completely different web site, I used the name carolyndardee. Now hurry, joe go check it out. Do I exist yet?

Lying Joe also said I use the names "Mother Bear" and "Barbara", but I NEVER ONCE posted a message under either of those names. Joe, you certainly have convinced me that your IQ must be REALLY low.. or non-existant. Wow!! Sb must have really dragged up the bottom of the barrel to do his dirty work for him. You're just another example of how he's really losing his "marbles". Hee, hee. Let's hear a confession from you about the bazillions of names that you post under. The best lie I think I've heard was your claim to be Mother Mary. Remember that one? Here it is just in case you've forgotten. The following is a post joe used in the Molestation of Students by Ssb forum:

Mother Mary 277 (This is the post writers claim to "identity" and post number)
09-23-2006 01:39 AM ET (US)
Greetings my children from the 7th Heavenly Realm of Bliss Consciousness! Being moved with great love and compassion for my precious children, I have come to warn you that Carolyn is channeling dark astral beings who impersonate me. I do not need channels to voice my message. Do not be led astray by Carolyn's words. Her words are sweet poison. She is a messenger of darkness and these words have manifest out of empathy for those with genuine faith in me. Much love always.

Good one, huh? Joe claiming to be Mother Mary, after I actually channeled a really sweet post or two she gave me. Like Barbara, we don't claim to be Mother Mary, but we do hear her just fine. Only a fool would not know the difference between Barbara and I. And like Barbara has already mentioned, only a fool would claim to be Mother Mary.

Unlike you, joeblow, I have a real job that I have to go to. So I might not write for a few days. I know, however, that these good anti-sb people will keep you occupied, so that there is one less pedophilic satanist stalking children in the neighborhood, like Barbara said. I'll post this same message in the Sexual Molestations of Students by Ssb forum. I'm sure there are readers there that would love a little more information about how deceptive and evil you really are.

Edited by author 11-08-2006 01:17 AM
I guess Barbara has trouble reading. Let's see if this helps.

For the Land of the Lost: How to Get Ready for God: Fire, Earth, Water, Air by Hinono, John Walton, and Hindno, and Dent-Walton, Barbara J (Editor)Binding: Trade paperback
Publisher: Seven Eagles Publishing
Date Published: 1997
ISBN: 0965679543

Edited by author 11-08-2006 01:14 AM
Everybody knows that Joe Moreno is a liar, especially from the way he has been documented as twisting events and comments out of proportion. See this for just the latest example. You're not alone, he obsesses over everyone else's sex life too because he has none of his own and is very jealous about it. Who would go near him? He would probably Google them up and then write a dedicated Expose page/blog against them if he finds out that they once picked their nose when they were 5 years old.

It's no wonder that he is now complaining (whining) why journalists for the highbrow Guardian newspaper didn't contact him for information on SSB. It's because any fool on the street can recognise that he is nothing more than a hysterical psychopath who babbles incoherently about an old faggot who rapes children. And the worst thing is that he does all of this with deliberate intent, so he shou;dn't complain when nobody gives him any credibility. Least of all Guardian journalists. :-)

Connie Shaw's website has been hacked:

http://connieshaw.com/sainews.htm

Impressive. I've seen this type of thing before. By the way the index page has this: "This Site is Closed Indefinitely for Redesign and Development of a New Direction."

I wonder why? Has Connie Shaw lost faith in Sai Baba?

Edited by author 11-08-2006 01:25 AM
Too funny. Carolyn (aka Barbara) can't keep her multiple identities in order. Such a pathetic liar!

amen: post 198

02-15-2005 04:30 PM ET (US)
"I am a woman from America who has decided to speak out against Sai Baba and any other who advocates opening a woman's first, ie sexual chakra through penetration into the sacred womb of woman's life. My husband, John Walton, held the theory that any woman who suffered from a blocked first chakra could automatically be cured by this sick approach. He had a guide named Hinono given to him by Sai Baba, and together the three of them made mince meat of me and my desire for truth, monogamy and woman's search for life. Many of the women he slept with claimed they too heard Sai Baba tell them it must be done. Later, they used the excuse that it was being done for my healing alone, as I would not submit to this vile rape and incest of all that was really God. So one day when I was at my lowest ebb, Sai Baba came to me and forced raped me anally. Thereafter, I was raped repeatedly and tormented on the psychic plane for many, many years. I was nearly made insane and I nearly died. I couldn't even eat. I know killing me was their combined evil desire. I have found ways on the psychic plane to fight him back, and am grateful this vicious and Satanic man is finally being rid off our precious Mother Earth. I know who I am spiritually and Sai Baba now has no power over me. I want to tell you all not to be afraid. I work with a large group of women who know how to undo his evil rituals performed by him and primarily Kumar. They are all liars and do indeed know what is going on"

COMPARE WITH: barbara: post 217

03-07-2006 11:52 PM ET (US)
"When you want to know more about what this man has done to me and my family, I would be happy to tell you everything. I know more about him than most, as I too was a victim of "spiritual" rape, meaning, he came to me often over the period of 3 1/2 years, via the psychic plane, raping me at will. I hated him more than words can tell. He is not a mere man with "spiritual" powers. Some would call them sidi powers. All I know is that I nearly died insane. I hated him bitterly. One day, Mother Mary came to be told me, showed me how to stop this horror that he insisted was good for my body. I hate him to this day, for subjugating me to such horror and evil and filth. I was a woman of some means, I mean money, and he took that too. After so much rape and emotional abuse, I became homeless for over two years. I lost eveything. My animals were raped on the psychic plane as well. Many lost their lives in the most vicious and cruel ways. My horse Wind Star was maliciously cut in so many places, I lost count. Several of my other cats were torn to pieces. They lost their minds as well."

I guess Carolyn aka Barbara will now accuse me of posting the last post under her name as well? Pathetic.

Carolyn said she is "Amen" and is not Barbara. However, "Amen" wrote the exact same story that Barbara wrote. lol

• Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
  "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

/m1083

Maybe Mother Mary didn't like Hinono...hehehe. I hear those trance channelers are VERY competitive.

Edited by author 11-08-2006 01:30 AM
Connie Shaw is still a devotee. Her other page is up: Ref. Not only was Shaw's site hacked, but so was Kingdom Of Sai (a couple of times). More proof that Anti-Sai Activists are vicious worms.

Edited by author 11-08-2006 01:33 AM
/m1082

Obviously the so-called journalists didn't contact Tony Blair (or read much on the internet) either dumbo or they would have known just why the anti-Sais continue to blow nothing but "hate" air for more than six years and counting. I thought I'd seen DENSE & DUMB before but you people REALLY take the cake.


Time to grow up and face reality bozo.

In a January 23, 2002 letter to Tony Colman, Blair wrote:

"...Foreign and Commonwealth (FCO) and other Government Departments are aware of the many allegations against Sai Baba. Our High Commission in New Delhi and Deputy High Commission in Chennai continue to monitor the situation closely. However, as I explained to you last year, there is little that the Government can do. Those who have complaints against Sai Baba will have to take them to the Indian police. No formal charges have been brought against him."

********

Get with it "you silly little amateur."

Hi Freestone Wilson,

I just discovered that you were the one to start this discussion topic. As I am new to this discussion, I would like to ask you a few questions. You said that you were interested in neutrality, and that you wanted to know more about sb. Do you feel that you are getting your question answered? Have you discovered yet what you wanted to discover? May I ask what your personal take is on sb now? Which "side" are you leaning toward? Are you leaning or are you still neutral? Do you really want to know for yourself? When you hear people talk about their experiences of physical molestations do you discredit them, or do you listen with an open heart and mind? How do you decide for yourself what the truth is? What do you REALLY want to hear? Do you need to have more experiences with the opposite side of life to know what life really is? What proof do you need in your heart and mind to show you who/what sb really is? What do you think about so many people coming up with the same stories of molestation from all around the world? Surely you have done some research into such matters if you are truly neutral.
Another question I have... Joe108 said to Barbara in one of his posts for her to mind her own business. Does he have "business" to say that? Is he the one administering this site, or is he just trying to take control over your topic and mind? Oops, there I go being non-neutral. Oh, I guess I never professed to be neutral after my own experiences of horror and shame with sb. Sb brought only an aspect of hell into my life. I could never be neutral. I guess I really just want to know, what is your current position? I really want to know what you're made of. Hope that's not offensive to you. Also, do you have a way of knowing that I am NOT Barbara? Seems as though joe108 wants to merge me into the same person as her. I think she's great and a wonderful person, but I pefer my own identity. I really would appreciate an honest reply, as I am sincerely asking.

Sincerely,
Carolyn/Kickbaabaaa'sass.

Edited by author 11-08-2006 01:51 AM
Carolyn, Barbara was married to John Walton and admitted it on this board. So did AMEN. You were NOT married to John Walton and you do not even show up in people search which means you are using a fake name. Get with it girl.

The documentation CLEARLY shows that Barbara J. Dent married John Walton.

For the Land of the Lost: How to Get Ready for God: Fire, Earth, Water, Air by Hinono, John Walton, and Hindno, and Dent-Walton, Barbara J (Editor)Binding: Trade paperback
Publisher: Seven Eagles Publishing
Date Published: 1997
ISBN: 0965679543

Why do you people continually thrive on playing mind games and using deception? You're not fooling anyone but yourselves.

Hey idiot, I'm still NOT Barbara, and Barbara still isn't AMEN. Not that you really care one whit for the truth. You'll notice that the posts written by AMEN were the very first posts that I ever wrote on the Molestations of Students by Ssb . Before Barbara had a profile for herself, she did in fact use my post name a time or two. We will gladly distinguish who wrote which posts, if you are that possessed to know. Can you comprehend the fact that we now have separate post names? Have you recently seen any posts by AMEN? By the way, you are absolutely correct. Mother Mary does not support John Walton's guide named Hinono, who was another one of sb's "favorite" devotee whores. Have you ever read the book? God forbid. If not, it is because Barbara and I burned the remaining copies-- boxes of them. We stayed warm many a night, while camping out under the stars. Some day Barbara will tell you why she "briefly" for a time used the name Walton. Oh puke. But I can assure you she never descended to the level of actually marrying evil. She already explained that to you. Shut the hell up if you are even capable and pretend you have an ounce of humility. Those with even a drop of humility naturally ask questions before they print more crap.

However, Barbara's identity and mine are not the subject of this discussion, are they? So, once again you've used deception to try to prove a point. ANY NORMAL AND NICE HUMAN BEING WOULD NOT BE SO CRASS AS TO KEEP INSISTING THAT WE ARE THE SAME PERSON. Are you so afraid that there is yet one more anti-sb activist? Are you trying to feel less outnumbered? Won't work. I'm still me.

Amen made only 2 posts (174 and 198). Both posts were clearly written by Barbara. So if Barbara wrote the only 2 posts made by Amen, which "Amen" posts did "Carolyn" make? :-)

Barbara/Carolyn/Amen, Mother Mary told me that you live in Seattle, use dial-up, use a macintosh and saved my page to your favorites. Click on your favorites. Oh my! What is that? My page about you! lol

• Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
  "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

Edited by author 11-08-2006 03:57 AM
Carolyn, are you one of Barbara's other personalities as in Multiple Personality Disorder (now known as Dissociative Identity Disorder)? Do you have a history of MPD? And if so, are you currently seeing a doctor for it?

If Barbara never married John Walton, then WHY is her name listed as Barbara J. Dent-Walton on the book?

If someone uses a name for a while to outwit one of the most evil incarnations to ever have appeared on earth, does that make him or her a bad person? Takes courage, I'd say. I freely and proudly admit to the public that I used the last name "Walton" for a time. I even called this John hog, "my husband." Oh gag!!! I did everything I could to convince him that I even loved him. He believed me. I also convinced Sai Baba and Hinono that I "loved" them. All three satanists trusted me. Yeah for me, but hell for them. (I enjoy my role as an undercover agent for Mother Mary and Joseph, the First Twin Flame couple on planet Earth). Yup, that's a fact. So anyway, after that nice trick was accomplished, this demon "John" then told me all his very deepest, darkest evil secrets... and they were many. Here's one of my favorites. John said his spirit guide, Hinono, said that John was Jesus, and I was Jesus mate. I knew John was no Jesus, for he was a whore, as well as a believer in what Sai taught, via the "underworld". I wondered why this Hinono spirit guide, who also claimed to be guided by Sai Baba, would tell such a crazy lie. This insane Hinono also claimed he was the Holy Spirit, even God the Father. So I asked Mother Mary, and she said all three, Sai Baba, John Walton, and his guide Hinono were completely nuts, as well as very evil. They all proved it to me in so many incredibly dark and disgusting ways. That's when I ran for my life. Hee-hee. Actually, I had continuous fun "being on the road," for a time, so to speak... learning who else on earth were demon freaks... sorting the wheat from the chaff, so to speak.

So perfect pedophile Joe asshole, search the courthouse files forever and forever and for eternity... but ya' ain't ever gonna' find no documents that say I tied the knot. Like I already told you, I don't marry whores. I eradicate them. Why are your knees so unsteady when I call you an IMPOTENT PEDOPHILE, you nasty creep? Why do you have so much gray in your thinning hair? Did you think that picture you submitted looked human? Whee, you sure are an uuuugly thing. Whee, wouldn't want to be you and have to face that mirror each and every day. Poor "devil".

Here's the rub, folks. All these demonic whores who came here from their own now defunct planet called Hell, actually want us to believe they all are the God of OUR Universe. Just ask John or Sai Baba or Joe. They all claim to be what they ain't. Even Anvil B. Kumar says he's God as well, even though if you asked them now, they’d all lie and say they didn’t say it or think it. They ALL act and think and speak and teach the same evil. If I've said it once, I've said it bazillions of times. They actually are the EXACT SAME HORROR, with the exact same drone mind. They have one maker, if you can call it that. It's Sai Baba. From himself, he made endless replicas. These idiots like Joe are NOT real, folks. Humans don't think or act or talk the way they talk. They ACT the opposite of us, like Joe here. You can't teach him anything because he is NOT ALIVE. Being alive requires you have a soul. These freaks are soulless. They have no heart or mind. They have NO ability to be kind, ever!! Sai Baba is a well-known pedophile... AND SO IS EVERY OTHER CLONED DRONE I have ever met or talked to or incarnated to take out. They are incapable of change. They only pretend to be interested in your stories, so they can pretend they are NOT working for Sai Baba. In reality, this is true. When you clone a drone, you have a lot of megalomaniacs, all claiming to be the same... GOD. Whether you catch them at it or not doesn't matter. They still claim it on the psychic plane. THEY SHOW IT. And they aren't even AWARE you KNOW it. They still do what they do... because they are an exact duplicate of their Satan Sai Baba. Joe knows his father is Sai. So did my so-called ex. The last thing this Walton pig said to me after he was ASKED to leave was this, and I quote. "I must go and become more like my father Sai Baba." How can an exact replica become more like its originator? Not possible. Here's another point. Sai Baba also claimed to be "Jesus" in one of his many past lives. Not true at all, according to the REAL Jesus. But Joe or Sai Baba or J. Walton all think and teach they are the "chosen one", even though they might try and deny it, like somehow we all can't hear their wishful thoughts and read their EVIL INTENT? Duh. Not even Jesus claims he is above anyone else. He always tells the folks I know that he is just a brother and an equal. No specialty about it. Wanna' add that comment to your hate list of lies about me, Joe, while hoping to get the Christian world to turn on me too? I see you're the real fruitcake here and not Sai Baba EXPOSED, nor anyone else who stands up against you and your evil anal filth.

If you've come to know one, you understand every single one of them. They are evil rapists, whores, pedophiles, queers, sado-masochists, liars, cheats, murderers, thieves... did I leave anything out? They are all the exact same, untrustworthy evil.

Got another one for ya, anal Satan Joe, fool of the universe. I did not write the book, For the Land of the Lost, even though some claim I did. Nope, not me. I don't write evil shit. I tell you once again; I incarnated only to kill that which is NOT from God. Like you, John is now forever impotent sexually, as well as in all other ways. Like you, like ssb, like evil Hinono, like John, you all FAIL at everything you do, including this web site.

Take a bath on occasion, will you please? It's been days since you've taken a shower either. You smell worse than a skunk!!!

Hummm, gee Joe, you actually asked a good question... for a change. Do you think, folks, one can train a demon whore to literally ASK QUESTIONS, or is Joe just pretending to be real again? I still say, you're only evil. But for the general public, I will tell you the answer to YOUR question. Carolyn here wrote the Amen post # 174. Barbara here, that's me by the way, wrote the "Amen" post 198. Are there any others you can find? If so, don't hesitate to ASK. So glad you're wasting YOUR time researching. We both already know the truth. Sorry to confuse your drone mind, mean one, who's actually being forced for once to try his hand at some real research.

Next, jackass fool. Once again you LIED when you told the world that Mother Mary told you that we live in Seattle. Not even close. Where'd you get that, dim wit?

Edited by author 11-08-2006 05:42 AM
You seem to have a lot of fear and hatred of men Barbara. If you haven't been diagnosed as a multiple personality, I suggest you seek out a doctor and see about getting a diagnosis.

I'm not Joe Barbara. Not everyone plays mind games like you do.

Wheee---you actually asked another good question. Why does the name "Barbara J. Dent-Walton APPEAR ON THE BOOK. IT DOESN'T!!! Tell the world now exactly where on that now defunct book that name appears, would ya' crazy buddy? Can't you ever get your stories straight? You remind me of someone who never got past third grade. You are so slow to catch on to anything. I don't hate men. I love all of mankind, even womenkind. I just hate drones. I especially hate their leader Satan Sai Baba, you know, the one you said you didn't really believe in either. Me either. Hummm, well at least that's one thing we have in common. Just to let you know, I even hate drone men, who hide out in kinda' sorta' look-a-like female bodies, trying to be men. You can't hide evil, evil one. Duhhhhhh!!

Are you sure you're NOT joe, CO2000? Wanna' try another one, hateful queer, son of no MAN.

Joe 108, aka CO 2000, aka, aka, aka............. (like Carolyn said.)

I'm sorry for you that you forgot your other personality "friends". I warned you that would happen. If you play with fire, Satan, you always get burned. Pardon the joke, ie pun.

Hey satanist or is it Joe... nevermind. Have a restless sleep tonight. I'm signing off. Cheerio, wierd one.

Edited by author 11-08-2006 08:15 AM
Kristijan, you are a liar. More than that, you have an extraordinarily inflated opinion of yourself. If you seriously believe that I would remove over 250 members (your figure) in an attempt to find you, then you are thick as well as deluded. And you didn't even know that I am just a moderator there, not an admin/owner. Duh.

You are a veritable criminal because you have been banned from the group for repeatedly disobeying the rules. It is against the rules to post messages from that group on other forums/sites without the permission of the original poster. You have done this repeatedly despite being requested not to do so several times. Your last post there was a deliberate copy-paste of my posting on this forum when I did not give you permission to do so, in a deliberate attempt to start some kind of argument or fight. Too bad it backfired on you. And even after your banning, you continue to be a surreptitious lurker. I don't need to ask Thorbjorn Meyer any questions; he exposed himself as a fool on National TV the day after the 'SEDUCED' documentary was broadcast in Denmark.

More than that, you have revealed that you are wholly biased in favour of Sathya Sai Baba. This is proven by your repeated copy-pastes of messages by Andy Rye, and your constant droppings about your attendances at Sai conferences and the like. You even misrepresent the discussions going on there by not referencing messages by Ayasha Alden and others, which proves your bias. It's hilarious that you pretend not to be a devotee when you so obviously are, in spite of not being able to give a clear answer when you have been asked several times (and by different people) what your interest in the SSB controversy is. As for your contributions, pfft. You are not a serious poster because you are here just to play games. You are not interested in the SSB controversy because you are here just to support the international worship of a old guru who rapes little children. Thus, you are a deceitful liar.
________

Yes I'm interested.
I'm not a liar.
I'm saying it how it is.
Not only did you delete almost 250 members you also disabled reading messages through web.
Now ,we only receive messages through mail .

I am a criminal for posting messages from your group around the ineterent?
Since when is that a criminal activity?
I even give the source of the quote.

I think it's fair that some ppl know what was being said in your group about some relevant issues.
You just want to prevent them from knowing.That's why you went to extremes,like deleting 70 percent of your members and disabling web function.

"Criminal"


I never say a rude word and I'm a criminal.
Hahah

that was the 3rd meeting i attended in 6 years.
It was for general public.


a liar??
I don't recall lying,so you're lying about me being a liar.
LOL

Edited by author 11-08-2006 11:45 AM
Barbara, from you IP, of course. It resolves to either Seattle or Colorado (depending on which filter is used). I see all of your activity on my site. Of course, I was joking when I said Mother Mary told me. I can see all the relevant particulars about your computer, browser, IP and that you saved my page to your favorites. That's how I caught your buddy Sanjay Dadlani (aka "SaiBabaExposed", who requested Jesus, Biblical and Disney Pornography) and his StreetBitches Blog. This is why Sanjay now uses anonymous proxy-servers to view my site (which isn't any better because I can see the activity from those IPs as well).

• Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
  "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

Exposing "Sai Baba EXPOSED", aka Sanjay Kishore Dadlani (Volume 2: Updated As Needed):

EXPOSING JODY RADZIK: GURUPHILIAC WEBMASTER:
- Pictures of Guruphiliac Webmaster (Jody Radzik)
- Guruphiliac & SaiBabaExposed Blogs

ANTI-SAI BIAS:
- BBC 'Secret Swami' Programme Bias
- Michelle Goldberg Salon.com Bias
- Paul Lewis, The Guardian & The Anti-Sai Hack Job

SATHYA SAI BABA BIRTHDAY DEBATE:
- Sathya Sai Baba Birthdate Debate

MISCELLANEOUS:
- Sanjay's Sympathy For Terrorists And Murderers
- "Effeminancy" On Wikipedia?
- Sanjay's Incestuous Homoeroticism
- The Cow Hating Leather Fetishist
- Stunning Tony O'Clery & Glen Meloy Update
- Sanjay Begs For Sathya Sai Baba
- *POW* Right On The Kisser
- Sanjay Dadlani's Fake Identity
- AbusedFor15Years / UsedByBaba Lies
- What Alan Kazlev Thought About Sanjay Dadlani
- Successor Of Sai Baba?

/m1097

So basically, Herr Sanjay Dadlani has effectively shut down his own group so nobody can participate! How smart is that?

Geez, talk about brain dead.

/m1095

You can stop lying any time now Barbara. I took that info DIRECTLY off of the VERY reputable site, Alibris book store.And IF you had been paying attention, you would have seen the previous LINK I supplied to that book store which CLEARLY showed that information.

All you are doing is showing just how dishonest and dumb you are to think you are getting away with DOCUMENTED, UNREFUTABLE FACTS. Do you know what a fact is Barbara? Apparently not.

It's time to grow up. You're NOT in kindergarten anymore. I know you think you are because you have your newfound friends, usedbybaba and Sanjay Dadlani to play with in your sandbox but really the issues are much more serious than your childish little mind games. It's time to grow up.

So many head games, so little time...

carolyndardee
2006-11-04 12:42PM No Rating
I have had personal experience with this one called SB. He is the devil incarnate. Some good people do not yet have full understanding of his "evil deeds" and demonic mission of ruling the whole world. He is like the evil man on the movie called X-MEN, who wants to rule everyone's minds. Stay away from him. He likes to play with boys in a bad way. Like, he wants to always rub and lick their private parts. OOh gross. I do not understand why he would want to do such a bad thing. Do you? A good report includes doing a lot of research. Did you know of these bad things that sb does?

Edited by author 11-08-2006 08:35 PM
/m1097

Kristijan, are you thick or something?

I just told you that I do not have admin/owner powers and I am simply a moderator. The fact that you seriously believe that circa 250 members would be deleted in a bid to find your surreptitious and several identities for lurking says more about your big ego than it does about anyone else.

"Yes I'm interested. I'm not a liar. I'm saying it how it is. Not only did you delete almost 250 members you also disabled reading messages through web. Now ,we only receive messages through mail ."

No, you are not interested. You are a liar. If you were truly interested then you would have participated there instead of stealing posts and posting them in other forums. But no, you cannot even understand simple English; when somebody tells you not to break the rules and you continue to break the rules, what do you think will happen?

I do not have to discuss SSBDC policies with you since you are a banned member because of your own bad behaviour and thus you have forfeited your right to comment on it. But for the record, the message archives have been disabled in order to test the new improvements to Yahoogroups that are coming up soon. Since you are a banned member, why does this bother you? You have no right to comment and I am not interested in your views. Of course you can be unbanned if you agree that you will follow the rules and stop stealing other people's messages without their permission, but given your behaviour since then that is hardly likely.

"I am a criminal for posting messages from your group around the ineterent? Since when is that a criminal activity? I even give the source of the quote."

"Criminal" refers to your behaviour of breaking the rules. If you break the law you will be arrested by the police. If you break the rules you will be thrown out. I have been exceptionally generous where rule-breaking is concerned because I have formulated a "three chances" rule: Three violations and you're out. For the record, you made two violations. You made many more than that but I forgave you and also gave you the benefit of the doubt because I thought you were just being mischievious. However after your two recorded violations and your third instance of rule-breaking (by posting one of my messages here into that forum with a view to start a fight) I invoked the special emergency rule and you were banned straightaway.

Of course you know that, for several years the SSBDC has been running on informal common-sense rules and with no formalities. The reason why official rules were introduced a few months ago was because of - surprise surprise - bad behaviour and foul language from Sai devotees. The rules are also sent to every member automatically on a monthly basis, so nobody can claim to be ignorant about them.

So don't give me any bullshit. You and I both know what you did so stop pretending. I could have forgiven you many more things but since you have come out as openly biased in favour of Sathya Sai Baba and people like Gerald Moreno and Lisa De Witt, you even forfeited simple human kindness. And it's your own fault because you didn't follow the rules. You didn't follow the rules because you have no discipline, you have no idea of how to behave in a moderated forum. Try and see if you can behave like that in strict Sai Baba forums like Bon Giovanni's, and let me see what happens to you. Gerald and Lisa have no idea how to behave in moderated forums either, which is why they are abused all over the place.

"I think it's fair that some ppl know what was being said in your group about some relevant issues. You just want to prevent them from knowing.That's why you went to extremes,like deleting 70 percent of your members and disabling web function."

CORRECTION - You think it's fair that Gerald Moreno and Lisa De Witt should know what is being said in the SSBDC about some relevant issues. You know full well that they were banned for their own bad behaviour too. Don't even bother denying that your behaviour so far has been for their benefit. I believe that you are a liar because you pretend that you are "neutral" to the Sai Baba controversy and that you just have some sort of "interested curiosity" about it. You have now been exposed as being openly biased in favour of SSB and a supporter of Gerald and Lisa, which is why you are not even honest in your misbehaviour, viz., you only stole the posts of Andy Rye, knowing that he is a Sai devotee and a critic of anti-Sais, in order to give people the impression that "intelligent debate" was going on. If you are so "neutral" then why didn't you steal the posts of Ayasha Alden, who has openly stated that she is neutral and is telling Andy Rye off for not giving other people a chance to put forward their views? The answer is because you are biased in favour of Sathya Sai Baba and you will support anything to do with him, even if people like Andy Rye are exposed (by their own words) as horrible racists, referring to Jews as "arseholes" and black people as "niggers".

If anybody wants to know what is going on there, they simply have to join the club and read messages. That's it, so simple. Duh. I have advertised the SSBDC all over the place, appending it's URL to every post on my blog and membership of active members has gone up as a result. So why would I suppress discussion when Sai devotees like Venkataraman Tinnium are allowed to repeat their brainwashed dribbles over and over again? Your arguments are so silly that I wonder how you can make them with an apparent straight face.

"that was the 3rd meeting i attended in 6 years. It was for general public."

Do I look like I care? But the fact that you attend these meetings, associate with devotees, take pictures and videos and upload them on the Net - in short, openly embracing devotees of a suspicious guru - reveals that you are fully biased in favour of him. This is also proven by your own statements; You read every piece of nasty trash written by Lisa and Gerald and you have nothing to say about their own documented lies and bad behaviour, but you do not read critical material about Sai Baba by your own admission. Just now you have posted a message on SSB2 saying that my posting about a Quebec person talking about defecation (and how it would stimulate Gerald Moreno's perverted sexual proclivities) was "distasteful", but you become silent whenever Gerald or Lisa make a documented lie or an extremely nasty remark against former devotees. You don't even have anything to contribute to discussions on Sai Baba except to get into fights with ubb and accuse other people of having multiple identities and banning 250 members to find you, silly remarks.

You are a liar and a deceiver.

So I'd appreciate it if you could stop wasting my time. I'm no longer interested in anything you have to say unless you come up with something really astounding.

Edited by author 11-09-2006 07:25 PM
/m1103

Hey Sanjay, according to your dictates nobody should be associating with a pervert like you because you are SO suspicious (with documentation on boot and jesus porn fetishes, etc. to prove what a hypocritical pervert you are /m272).
And talk about bad behavior! You are the poster boy for bad behavior you hypocrite. All that's missing in your wardrobe is the jail cell.

I wonder when you bozos will wake up and realize you guys are the perverts and bad guys (see saisathyasai.com).

I guess it's going to take the kind of wake up call America just gave the corrupt neocons who are constantly trying to tell everyone else how to live when they are biggest perverts and hypocrites of all.

Time to grow up and face reality bozo.

In a January 23, 2002 letter to Tony Colman, Blair wrote:

"...Foreign and Commonwealth (FCO) and other Government Departments are aware of the many allegations against Sai Baba. Our High Commission in New Delhi and Deputy High Commission in Chennai continue to monitor the situation closely. However, as I explained to you last year, there is little that the Government can do. Those who have complaints against Sai Baba will have to take them to the Indian police. No formal charges have been brought against him."

********

Get with it "you silly little amateur."

Edited by author 11-08-2006 09:12 PM
Exposing "Joe108", aka Gerald 'Joe' Moreno (Volume 2: Updated As Needed):

LISA DE WITT:
- Blind To Moreno's Bad Behaviour
- Lisa Admits Residing In Sewers!
- Self-Appointed Jihadi Sai Defender
- More Abuse By Lisa De Witt

GERALD MORENO DECEPTION:
- To Be-lieve Or Not To Be-lieve?
- Gerald Moreno's Sex Abuse Flip-Flop
- Gerald Moreno's Sexy Sai Oilings
- Moreno Confesses Belief In Sai Baba
- Moreno's Guardian Lies & Speculations

GERALD 'JOE' MORENO DECEPTION ON WIKIPEDIA:
- Moreno Questions Reducing Positive Sites
- Moreno Threatens Positive Sai Media
- Gerald Moreno's Media Bias Lies

SAI BABA BHAJAN BOOK:
- Kshirabdhi Shayana Narayana

SAI BABA EXPOSED!:
- WATCH Yourself, Baba!
- Traitor Chandrababu
- Sai Org's Deception & Propaganda Exposed 2
- Sai Org's Deception & Propaganda Exposed 3
- Wheelchair Blues Boogie!
- Guardian's Sensational Sai Scandal
- Sai Youth Take BIG Hit From Guardian!
- Cybernoon: Superstition; A Crutch
- DNA: A Holy Furore Rages In Britain
- "We Do Not Care"

Special Attention for Guardian's Sensational Sai Scandal, which has been updated with newspaper scans. :-)

Edited by author 11-08-2006 09:19 PM
Carbon Dioxide, stop repeating the same old dribble again and again. Even the Guardian acknowledged that no charges had been brought against him. However, the British public are concerned about how an entire planeload of around 200 fresh and juicy British boys are flying to see him for a month, when the US State Dept. has published a travel advisory against him that has been online since 2001.

What to speak of the huge amount of potential bad publicity to be gained by associating these perverts with the Duke of Edinburgh's Award scheme. Tough luck. You are a silly little amateur who has managed to accomplish nothing at all, whereas we we have several worldwide articles publsihed in national newspapers, two television documentaries and a US State Dept. warning. Flap your arms and cry all you want; In Puttaparthi no one can hear you scream. :-)

Edited by author 11-08-2006 09:37 PM
Sanjay, you are the silly little amateur who keeps repeating nonsense EVEN in the face of the IRREFUTABLE FACTS. Too bad you keep recruiting dumb journalists who don't know how to do their job. One failure after another and you idiots still don't wake up.

And like I said on the other board to your question:

OBVIOUSLY the white guys at the Guardian either
didn't do their homeowrk or they are bigots or
BOTH. You pick bozo. Maybe the white guys at the
Guardian can explain why they told us there were
WMDs in Iraq when there weren't or why they
believe in the supernatural morphing genitalia
the accusers claim.

 
Wake up dumbo.

Edited by author 11-08-2006 09:40 PM
/m1103

"you have no idea of how to behave in a moderated forum."
___________

"Liar,criminal" ,blablablablaahhaahhahaha,such strong words.


I just thought it's interesting what A.R. had to say about the other A.R., cause he met him.That's all.People have the right to know.

I'm not judging anyone nor am i rude.I don't recall using a rude word ever at least not on SB's forums ,LOL.nobody is perfect .I'm not.I know it looks I'm in favor of Sb cause i never criticize him.

You need to calm down.I see you're very upset and stuff.You think ,why haven't i said anything negative about SB ever or something in support of your "expose".
Well i can't do that cause i don't know what the truth is and it's just not gonna do me any good ,if i start seeing SB in negative light.And i don't have to do that,cause time will tell.Well...I hope.
And i don't always read all the posts.I really don't.
i haven't read Barbara's posts, just took a brief look at it.I don't feel like reading that bizarre stuff.
I do think you have a right to make your point in a tasteful manner.

/m1107

Irrefutable facts? What irrefutable facts?

Failure? What failure?

Do you even know what effect the Guardian has had? :-) I could reveal a few hints but Liar Moreno will misuse and twist them, so tough luck. :-)

"White guys" eh? Thanks for providing more proof that you are a Nazi racist. Nazi because of your reference in an earlier post to me as "Herr Sanjay".

Speaking of which, Lisa, why did you have a book on your Amazon wishlist about the 'Volk'? :-) We all know what the 'Volk' means, don't we? I want to know why Lisa had a book about the 'Volk' on her Amazon wishlist? :-)

Sanjay Dadlani 9
09-11-2001 06:18 PM ET (US)


There are at least THREE people on that list who I can personally verify where not and never were molested.

68.Jagdish H.Bharwani
69.Sunil H.Bharwani
70.Naveen H.Bharwani

The very fact that these three brothers are on this list fills me with laughter. I know this family very well and they are at a loss to explain why their names appear on this fabricated list.

These Bharwani brothers who I personally know also verified that many other names on the list are totally false and were NEVER molested or in any way "intimately conected" with Sai Baba. and I am awaiting the complete list of names (or non-names) from them.

I personally believe that on the testimony of the Bharwani brothers that the entire list is fabricated, but in any case if this list is reposted in this or any other forum, I would like it if these three names were struck off from the list, as it has offended the family very much.

If anyone doubts my claim that I know this family, that is their problem. This family lives in Indonesia and have been devotees of Sai Baba since the 1960s, and are also very close family friends of mine. They have had many wonderful experiences of Sai's miracles and own a flat in PN that Sai personally allocated to them.

I lost touch with them a few years back because of the civil war in Indonesia, but I recently got back in touch and even though their access to a computer is sparing, it may take some time for them to reply and provide me with the rest of the false names.

I repeat my request on their behalf to remove the Bharwani names from the list. It is nothing but SHAMEFUL to steal a copy of ex-student's names from the Whitefield Principal's office and then post it on the Internet as a list of names of students who have been SEXUALLY MOLESTED! Or not, as it may seem.

Sanjay
___________

oh,ok.

Kristijan, I am calm. I just take it very seriously when rules are broken. I wouldn't be a very good moderator on the SSBDC if I allowed rules to be broken. Please try to understand that it is not OK to use other people's posts without permission. Other forums also observe this rule.

Believe it or not, I have treated you relatively lightly because I have a special affection for you. I don't know why, but you come across to me as someone who is "innocent" about all these things especially since you haven't seen Sai Baba "in the flesh" even once. Since I happened to receive to loads of SB books for free (and am reading them), I am remembering how "wonderful" it was to be a Sai devotee and how easy it is to believe those stories. Then I have to pinch myself and "wake up" and remember the reality of it all. I sincerely believe that you are the same; since you have never met Sai Baba, you are afected by all that is written about him. You do not know what life in the ashram is really like and what it really means to be in Sai Baba's presence. It is not like how it is written in the books. So in that way, I cannot blame you for the fact that you are enthusiastic/biased in Sai baba's favour; so would I if I didn't know what I know now.

Nobody is asking you to think of Sai Baba in a negative light, least of all me. I would even go as far as to say that you should not think of Sai Baba in a negative light. But you have to be critical: remember what I have been saying all along, that I discovered that Sai Baba was a fraud through my own research/knowledge of his philosophical/theological inconsistencies. That's my angle. I studied and am still studying proper Vedic/Vedantic philosophy and there is plenty of evidence that proves Sai Baba as a complete dunce when it comes to philosophy. But again, that's my angle. If you really are neutral then it is your duty to take the good with the bad. You should hear good things about Sai Baba (and even I will acknowledge them) but you must hear the bad things too. To not admit that there are bad things about Sai Baba is to be in denial. Please, don't be in denial and don't defend him to the death for no reason. There may be good with Sai Baba but there is also bad. I will have respect for people who acknowledge this.

Edited by author 11-08-2006 09:58 PM
Too funny. Yes Sanjay we know there are ignoramuses like you who believe anything they read. That's why we don't let newspapers play judge and jury. Get it yet dumbo or do I have to draw a map for you in CRAYON like you are a five year old? In reality, the Guardian just made fools of themselves like the BBC did.

Hard to believe you guys are so stupid.

Remember how the dummies ranted after all the documentaries like they had actually accomplished something? This is another momentary thrill for the anti-Sais with the usual DUD to follow soon after.

Better get your tranquilizers ready Sanjay, you are going to need them with as dense as you are.

Kristijan, yes. Although, I do not know those Bharwani boys well enough to tell if they were molested. I wrote that post when I was a devotee in denial. So I have no clue if they were molested or not, they may well have been. I am still out of touch with them and that family.

[Although I know where they live when they're in PN :-)]

Lisa, yes yes yes. The Guardian is stupid. The BBC, a world-renowned broadcaster, is stupid. The Daily Telegraph is stupid. Salon.Com is stupid. Trouw is stupid. Bild is stupid. The Australian Age is stupid. The Sydney Herald is stupid. The Daily Mirror is stupid. DR is stupid. Everyone who thinks Sai Baba is a fraud is stupid.

Take that crayon logic to the world's press and see who believes you. :-)

You and Gerald probably voted Bush yesterday, you racist maniacs.

Edited by author 11-08-2006 11:35 PM
No, I think you are stupid because EVEN in light of the IRREFUTABLE FACTS you dummies are still pushing your LIES. That is why I think you are so stupid.

Read my lips dumbo:

"No accusers have filed CHARGES with the police."

Got that? Now wake up STUPID!

Edited by author 11-09-2006 07:20 PM
Let's go over it again for the dummies. NO alleged crime victim is taken seriously UNLESS s/he FILES an OFFICIAL complaint with the POLICE.

The anti-Sais are trying to avoid this issue because they KNOW they have absolutley NO ground to stand on. This is the ONE clue that the anti-Sai campaign is NOTHING but a smear campaign designed to deceive people.

NOT ONE OF THE ACCUSERS HAS EVER TRIED TO FILE CHARGES WITH THE POLICE IN INDIA!

Here is the IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE:

Apparently the anti-Sais don't READ their own material. This is the very SAME sheet that has the so-called warning against an unnamed religious leader.

This consular information sheet regarding India CLEARLY advises crime victims to do TWO things.


#1. Report the crime to the police.
 
#2. Contact the U.S. embassy or consulate for assistance.
 
For some reason the alleged victims think they are above the law when it comes to reporting procedures. Apparently they would rather whine everyone to death than do their DUTY and PROPERLY report a crime they allege was committed. We can ALL easily deduce WHY this is so. They all seemed to have plenty of time and money to run to India prior to the allegations.
 
 ************ ********* ********* ********
 

Consular Information Sheet Advises Crime Victims on HOW to Proceed
 
 
"If you are the victim of a crime while overseas, in addition to reporting to local police, please contact the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate for assistance. The embassy/consulate staff can, for example, assist you to find appropriate medical care, to contact family members or friends and explain how funds could be transferred. Although the investigation and prosecution of the crime is solely the responsibility of local authorities, consular officers can help you to understand the local criminal justice process and find an attorney if needed."

 

More documented proof the anti-Sais are not following government
guidelines regarding criminal allegations.



In a January 23, 2002 letter to former MP, Tony Colman, Blair wrote:

"...Foreign and Commonwealth (FCO) and other Government Departments are aware of the many allegations against Sai Baba. Our High Commission in New Delhi and Deputy High Commission in Chennai continue to monitor the situation closely. However, as I explained to you last year, there is little that the Government can do. Those who have complaints against Sai Baba will have to take them to the Indian police. No formal charges have been brought against him."

Edited by author 11-08-2006 10:41 PM
Lie: Several molestees have attempted to file charges both with the Indian police and with the police in their own countries. Also, several legal petitions (two of which brought some fruit) and legal petitions were registered both in Indian and American courts.

So stop lying.

It ultimately doesn't matter anyway, because Sathya Sai Baba now has a black name in the world's media. No matter what anyone does, he will never get past these things. :-)

According to recent "hot" information, he spends most of his time crying these days. Lol.

Of course my heart bleeds for anyone who sheds tears, but come on, Sai Baba brough it all on himself. He shouldn't have lied about his DOB and about his being the reincarnation of Shirdi Sai. He has been lying since the beginning. Now all these lies are coming to light. Let these lighted-up lies light the dull brains of dull lights who need a new circuit. :-)

Edited by author 11-08-2006 11:10 PM
/m1117, /m1116

Baloney. You are LYING and you know it. Not ONE of your accusers has EVER claimed they tried to file an OFFICIAL report with Indian police. If in fact they had, the documentation of such would carry great weight either for or against them. And reports to police outside India are useless (as are petitions) as Tony Blair clearly told you bozos in 2002!

This is another reason just WHY Sanjay is the LAST person anyone should use as a spokes person. He will lie at the drop of a hat just to deceive.

Only a few hundred dummies like you think Sai Baba has a black name. MILLIONS of intelligent people who have been smart enough to look beyond your campaign of hate and lies know better.

The only one with a black name is Sanjay. By his own admission, he has a black heart too. Sanjay, have you recently licked any gun barrels with your tongue and contemplated blowing your brains out? :-)

And do tell us once again why you listen to Hard Rock Music? Or do I need to quote you on that too? lol

• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
  "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

Edited by author 11-08-2006 11:33 PM
Of course my heart bleeds for anyone who sheds tears but, come on, Sinjay brought it ALL on himself. He shouldn't have lied about being such a pervert and a very sanctimonious one at that. Oh, and the horror of it all...airing his sexual picadillos in public like he thinks he is George Michael or something. For shame!

Edited by author 11-09-2006 04:42 AM
If you know the bharvani brothers, can you give us the details of each one of them.I know them much much more than you.Can you tel, how their father died and what your Sai baba told their mother. They used to get interviews when they were small boys and along with their parents who were rich.Tell them to come to this site and write to me. If they are known to you. They were small boys who were interested in Cricket (jagdish bharvani was not interested in cricket)and left puttaparthi in the 80s when the eldest of the lot jagdish was in 9 th std. The youngest studied for some more time.If they know who i am, they will not refute anything that I say.
So don't give me this bharvani brothers thing. every name in the list is correct Which Indian (they are basically Indians - can u tell me their mother tounge) ever told you that he was molested by baba.
Even i would refuse that i was molested by baba, if you meet me directly.
WE WILl CONFIDE IT ONLY to OUR FRIENDS.This molestation has gone on and on and 99% of the form boys were molested.So there might be a mistake of putting up a name here and there but don't say all the names are fake or a list from college.
If it was a list then why the list contains students from different classes and different batches.


In more than 25 years only 100 students name they could get or what??
Every year there were nearly 1000 new students.Some in the list have never seen each other,because of the age gap.Nityanand menon is around 50
and barvani brothers are just in their 30s and lot of students came after the bharvani brothers.

I LIVED IN PUTTAPARTHI FOR MORE NUMBER OF YEARS THAN THESE KIDS( I LIKE ALL THREE OF THEM)

Do you know that the bharvani brothers blame Harish Mirpuri's (the business man from Indonesia who is still a devotee and baba is also a devotee of their money) father of cheating their father of millions of dollars or whatever currency it is.

If you know the barvani brothers very well you obviously and most probably have seen baba in parthi.

Edited by author 01-20-2007 02:53 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SATHYA SAI BABA!!!


Swami's Leelas at Sai Sruti Temple in Harrow, Middlesex, UK (six pages of photos)

Edited by author 11-09-2006 07:38 PM
Are you blind usedbybaba? Sanjay Dadlani even refutes your claim. He said he KNEW for a fact three of those students by the name of Bharwani were NOT molested. Doesn't THAT put you in a pickle jar (where you belong)?

CLICK HERE to see Sanjay Dadlani's post.

There is absolutely NO proof any of those students on that list you posted were molested you liar. In fact, there are posts by SEVERAL people on that board claiming to be those students OR parents of students who say it is NOT true. You are really stupid to think if that many people were molested that the police in India wouldn't know and do something about it by now. You are living in a fairytale world bozo the clown. I've PERSONALLY talked to students who say it is NOT true and that you and anybody else who claims so is a LIAR.

Get some mental help bozo. You need it for your delusions as bad, if not worse, than Barbara does.

Edited by author 11-09-2006 06:44 AM
I want people to take note of how usedbybaba so carelessly casts aspersions, babbles, gossips and throws other peoples names and private information around (for them) while he cowers behind an anonymous name. And then, as if that weren't bad and incongruous enough, the bozo refuses to answer questions about his OWN allegations that he was molested by Baba when he was nineteen years old. Notice too, he is constantly claiming he knows all these people yet he has no way to contact them and is ALWAYS ordering other people to contact people he claims he knows! If he knows all these people on the list WHY doesn't he contact them and why don't they back up his claims? Obviously,if he REALLY had known them from the list, they would be here affirming who they are wouldn't they? So this proves he did NOT get the names from these students or he would have their contact info.

The guy is a pathetic liar.

JOE 108-- You wrote the following in post #1098

"Barbara, from you IP, of course. It resolves to either Seattle or Colorado (depending on which filter is used). I see all of your activity on my site. Of course, I was joking when I said Mother Mary told me. I can see all the relevant particulars about your computer, browser, IP and that you saved my page to your favorites."

Ok, my question for you is this. WHAT PAGE of YOURS did I save to MY favorites?

This page:

Barbara Dent Exposed

/m1121

"Oh too funny", now Gerald Moreno thinks that listening to hard rock music is a character flaw. This comes from someone who listens to Sai bhajans and Buddhist chants all day.

Why does Gerald Moreno want to know about my tastes is music, is he jealous or something? Keep your dripping nose out of my private business, dawg, and sit down in shame at the black name of your perverted faggot evil guru. You do realise that every single thing that is published within the United Kingdom is archived for posterity in the British Library, which is one of the world's most famous libraries? This means that Sai Baba's black name is archived FOREVER in the hallowed halls of the British Library. :-) Dry your tears, Moreno, and wake up to reality. You fools brough it all on yourselves when you managed to piss off the Queen's husband, and now even Sai Baba sits crying all day.

Sit down and shut up, you silly little amateur, and know who runs the Sai Exposé. You're already in trouble trying to fight a war you can't win, namely your ridiculous contention that Salon.Com is not a reputable source when you have several editorsd telling you different. Lol. Bog yourself down in these issues while we continue to make hay while the sun shines.

Now get back to gnashing your teeth and snarling like feral toxic waste.

Edited by author 11-09-2006 08:40 PM
/m1119

"Baloney. You are LYING and you know it. Not ONE of your accusers has EVER claimed they tried to file an OFFICIAL report with Indian police."

Goes to show how much you know. What did Jens Sethi do? What did Hari Sampath do? Sethi listed (or tried to list) a complaint with the Puttaparthi police and got ran out of town. Sampath registered a legal complaint with the Indian courts and it got thrown out by a judge who was a Sai devotee, and who poked his nose beyond his legal purview. This has been repeated over and over again, but barking dogs like you continue to bark the same old lies that none has ever "tried" to file a complaint.

"If in fact they had, the documentation of such would carry great weight either for or against them."
You are horribly naive. Why don't you try to file a complaint against Sai Baba/his ashram with the Puttaparthi police and see where it gets you?

I'll tell you where, it'll get you humiliated in the newspapers. Yes, if you go out alone at night and get raped, no one will listen to you. People will laugh at you. "How can such things happen in the Kingdom of God"? Then you know what will happen? You'll appear on my blog. Just like this: Geramn Woman Alleges Rape In Puttaparthi. Wanna try it?

"However, some top police officials said she appeared to be mentally disturbed ... She also stated that she was forced to complain to the chief as the local police had failed to take her complaint seriously. However, a senior police official in the town said the woman was a drug addict and mentally unsound. 'It is hard to believe her statements. We have registered a case and the truth will come out after the probe.' ... This is not the first time a foreign devotee has complained of being raped in Puttaparthi and police have dismissed the devotee as being mentally disturbed."

Yes, that is what will happen, you will be condemned in the press as mentally disturbed. No one will take you seriously, not even the police. If this happens to women when heterosexual rape is "normal", how do you think they will deal with a complaint of homosexual molestation levelled at the big gun Sai Baba himself? You are so naive I wonder how you still stay alive.

And reports to police outside India are useless (as are petitions) as Tony Blair clearly told you bozos in 2002!"
Dragging up old material, eh? I understand your dsperation. :-) Things have hanged a lot since them, do you know what Tony Blair's feelings are on the matter now? Of course you don't. :-) Why would you? You are horribly naive. :-) Sit down and shut up you old amateur. :-)

"This is another reason just WHY Sanjay is the LAST person anyone should use as a spokes person. He will lie at the drop of a hat just to deceive."
On the contrary I have always spoen the truth. And by the way I am not a spokesman for anybody or anything. I am my own agent. It is your buddy Gerald who keeps insisting that I am the "current mouthpiece" when he has no evidence to suport his speculaitons as usual. Therefore this is you lie. Deal with it and meditate on your guru's divine anal sex leelas and how wonderful they are.

/m1131

I should mention the context of my previous posting vis-a-vis German Woman Alleges Rape In Puttaparthi. I have personal knowledge of how dangerous it is around Sai Baba's ashrams, especially at night, and the situation is the same everywhere else too.

I spent 3 months in the summer of 1993 at Sai Baba's Whitefield and Puttaparthi ashrams when I was 14/15 years old (I spent my 15th birthday with Sai Baba). The bulk of the three months was spent at Whitefield where I used to work all day in the Indian canteen. Unlike in Puttaparthi, the Indian canteen is located several hundred yards from the main ashram and is about a 10-15 minute walk away. I did seva there all day every day for breakfast, lunch preparation, serving lunch, back to ashram for evening darshan and bhajans, and then back again to serve tiffin (afternoon snacks).

My mother forbade me to do seva at dinner time (in the night) because that would involve a long walk all alone in the dark where there are not even street lamps to guide the way. There was a high incidence of rapes, robberies and assaults taking place and this was known even among the local resident community, therefore everyone advised me to not perform seva at night despite my enthusiasm for doing so, so that I don't take the risk of being kidnapped, assaulted, etc. To the best of my memory I only did this once and only after one of my older friends promised to accompany me there and back when it was some special occasion, a festival or something to which I was personally invited.

I was once approached at twilight by an agent who claimed to be a representative of some devotee who received personal messages from Sai Baba. This was the type of person who is regularly condemned in the Sanathana Sarathi as an unauthorised agent claiming miracles etc, and so I dismissed him.

Therefore there is a lot of criminal activity in and around Puttaparthi and Whitefield, the so-called Kingdoms of God. Too bad. I'm not surprised that this German woman got raped, there have been many other reports too. And the local police? Forget about it. They're about as useful as a fifth wheel. Their only purpose is to get drunk at night and rape the female pickpockets in the cells that they picked up ("arrested") that day. Even on the night of the 1993 murders the senior police officer was drunk.

Edited by author 11-17-2007 04:00 AM
Jens Seth did NOT file a police report about being molested in INDIA YOU LIAR! His alleged report to police in Germany does no good as Tony Blair ALREADY told you idiots in 2002 which was AFTER Sampath tried to play his games with the Indian government. Hari Sampath did NOT file charges for alleged molestation victims with Indian police (because he could NOT by law)! Nor was he an alleged molestation victim you idiot! Sampath CANNOT file charges for other people. The lying cowards HAVE to face the music themselves.
And crime victims do NOT go to the CBI to file charges for sex crimes dumbo. Those are handled by the POLICE.

See folks, this is how stupid these people are. They do not even know how to use common sense. I have explained these issues over and over again and they are STILL playing the same mind games with the issues.
 
Read my lips DUMBO:

Alleged victims MUST file charges with the police just like any other citizen in ANY other country must do. Citizens in Britain do NOT run to MI-5 to file charges if they are sexually assaulted you idiot. NOR do they run to the Parliament. They go to the POLICE!!! Either you are too stupid to understand the difference or you KNOW the difference and you are playing mind games.

The FEAR excuse doesn't work either dumbo. All a foreigner has to do is NOTIFY the U.S. Embassy and/or take a lawyer with them if they think they are going to have problems so there is NO excuse. And the media would be ALL over it. PERIOD. You are the one who is incredibly naive you "silly little amateur". You don't have a CLUE what you are talking about.

Let's go over it again for the dummy. NO alleged crime victim is taken seriously UNLESS s/he FILES an OFFICIAL complaint with the POLICE.

The anti-Sais are trying to avoid this issue because they KNOW they have absolutely NO ground to stand on. This is the ONE clue that the anti-Sai campaign is NOTHING but a smear campaign designed to deceive people.

NOT ONE OF THE ACCUSERS HAS EVER TRIED TO FILE CHARGES WITH THE POLICE IN INDIA!

Here is the IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE:

Apparently the anti-Sais don't READ their own material. This is the very SAME sheet that had the UNconstitutional warning against an unnamed religious leader.

This consular information sheet regarding India CLEARLY advises crime victims to do TWO things.


#1. Report the crime to the police.
 
#2. Contact the U.S. embassy or consulate for assistance.
 
For some reason the alleged victims think they are above the law when it comes to reporting procedures. Apparently they would rather whine everyone to death than do their DUTY and PROPERLY report a crime they allege was committed. We can ALL easily deduce WHY this is so. They all seemed to have plenty of time and money to run to India prior to the allegations.
 
 ********* ********* *********
 

Consular Information Sheet Advises Crime Victims on HOW to Proceed
 
 
"If you are the victim of a crime while overseas, in addition to reporting to local police, please contact the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate for assistance. The embassy/consulate staff can, for example, assist you to find appropriate medical care, to contact family members or friends and explain how funds could be transferred. Although the investigation and prosecution of the crime is solely the responsibility of local authorities, consular officers can help you to understand the local criminal justice process and find an attorney if needed."

 

More documented proof the anti-Sais are not following government
guidelines regarding criminal allegations.




In a January 23, 2002 letter to former MP, Tony Colman, Blair wrote:

"...Foreign and Commonwealth (FCO) and other Government Departments are aware of the many allegations against Sai Baba. Our High Commission in New Delhi and Deputy High Commission in Chennai continue to monitor the situation closely. However, as I explained to you last year, there is little that the Government can do. Those who have complaints against Sai Baba will have to take them to the Indian police. No formal charges have been brought against him."

Lisa, stop barking like a rabid rottweiler. You do not know the details of these incidents because you were not even around at the time. Those of us who have been around since the beginning of this whole Exposé know things about this case that you do not.

Nor do you even know how the Indian legal system works. Sampath simply registered the complaint, he is not a lawyer not is he a sexual abuse victim, where did I say that? Sto pputting words in my mouth and stop talking bullshit. Even your own US State Dept warns people not to visit Sai Baba because they are in danger of being "inappropriately" handled.

Deal with it already and get lost. Or take these two words: "Woof woof". :-)

Oh and by the way, stop editing your posts after the fact to make it look like you said more than what I addressed. Discuss honestly or don't discuss at all.

Assuming you can have a discussion with a barking mutt anyway.

Edited by author 11-17-2007 03:42 AM
Sanjay, stop barking like a rabid pervert. You are too stupid to be here. Go away retard.

I can edit my posts ANY way I like you gestapo freakazoid. WHY do you think there is an EDIT function dumbo? It's called the POWER of words. Get over it crybaby.

Black people are "niggers". Jews are "arseholes". The British media is full of "white people". And all Middle-Eastern men should be tied up and gagged.

This is the racist and evil face of the Sai Defence Movement.

This is not your forum so don't tell other people what to do, faggot-worshipper. How apropos that you are a homosexual too. As the guru, so the disciple. Woof woof. :-)

Edited by author 11-10-2006 01:39 AM
This is NOT your forum so don't tell people what to do, hypocritical jesus porn pervert and liar extraordinaire. /m272

You are so dumb and corrupt it's scary.

*Sigh*

Do I need to remind the rottweiler that she is telling people to "go away" from here when she has no right to do so, when I have told her not to tell other people what to do?

What more do we need to know from childish rabid faggot-worshippers, who have been publicly embarrassed all over England, India and Taiwan? :-) She is 46 years old apparently.

Edited by author 11-09-2006 09:32 PM
Do I need to tell the pervert he is a hypocrite who constantly tells people what to do including go away?

Look in the mirror DUMBO.

Lisa, when you have grown up (a little more) and can come back with some intelligent rebuttals that prove you to be a worthy participant in discussion, give me a call.

Until then, you and your equally psychotic buddy Gerald Moreno will continue to be ignored by us and the media too. No wonder he is still whining about it. :-)

Sanjay , when you have grown up a little more and can come back with something intelligent and truthful, let us know. We won't hold our breath though because we know what a pervert you are.

Edited by author 11-09-2006 09:40 PM
/m1137

This from the hypocritical pervert who has been calling me "white trash" on the other board. Hard to believe he is this demented and stupid isn't it?

Oh yeah, and then there was Sanjay's comment, "How can Krishna be both black and beautiful at the same time?"

Pathetic innit?

You are white trash because you behave like white trash. If you behaved like a mature and responsible adult, able to discuss in a calm, peaceful and rational way, then people would have more respect for you. It's no wonder nobody talks to you or cares what you have to say. You are embarrassing to Gerald Moreno, who is desperately trying to make his voice heard and is drowned out by your barking.

By the way, at least have the decency to quote me properly. My comment about Krishna is taken out of context from a "philosophical" discussion with Sarfaraz Shamsi. You are a shameful liar if you try to portray this as a racist comment. Hardly surprising, given that you have lied through your teeth since you were born.

Get a life, life with your racism, live with your white trashness, live with your faggot guru, live with shame. All the international agencies know about Sathya Sai Baba and his homosexual proclivities, including the US State Dept. who warn travellers to India to stay away from his place. And now a whole plane-load of boys are flying to India while Sai Baba's eyes shine expectantly at the sight of fresh meat. Woof woof.

The Guardian story is now being carried by the Kuwait Times. ROFLOL. Now it's all over for Sai Baba! He has a large (Indian) following in the Middle East with some Iranian devotees too.. Now the Muslim world is going to pick up on the story of this fake "god" and condemn him forever!

:-)) :-D

Edited by author 11-10-2006 01:36 AM
/m1145

See what I mean folks? No shame from the psychopathic pervert, Sanjay Dadlani.

Dadlani is a misogynist who went around stalking women and put their pictures all over his streetbitches blog and wrote comments under them such as, "They want it," and other disgusting pornographic comments. Prior to that he was on a jesus porn site asking for pics of "naughty jesus."

Sanjay Dadlani is getting EXACTLY what he deserves for his constantly abusive behavior towards anyone who stands up to his perversions and bullying. No more and no less.

In fact, the con artist should most likely be in jail.

see /m272

Edited by author 11-09-2006 10:48 PM
Lizzy, :-)

not that we actually care for your deranged and schizophrenic opinion (seen Jesus around lately?), but what do you have to say about the Guardian story now being carried in the Kuwait Times? Do you know what an effect this will have on Muslims, who are already institutionally intolerant of other faiths as it is? :-) And what effect this will have on Sai activities in Kuwait/Middle East? :-)

Didn't you say that all Middle-Eastern men should be tied-up and gagged? :-)

For shame. :-)

Edited by author 11-10-2006 12:16 AM
Not that we care for your psychopathic and deranged opinion, Dadlani, but have you seen your psychiatrist lately bozo? Before you end up in jail? After all, you are the one going around stalking people with your camera and writing weird, perverted stuff on the internet.


Lies written by media are LIES regardless of WHERE they are printed dumbo. You still haven't answered about the WMDs and incredibly morphing genitalia that show either the media whores are dummies who don't do their research or they purposely manipulated information just like the WMD incident in order to further an agenda.

My Opinion? Click Away And Find Out:

• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
  "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

Interesting point, C02000, one of the translations for "Krsna" is "black" (Reference). Strange that Sanjay, the racist, is devoted to a black God. Hmmmm. Cry that out of your system, Sangay :-)

Edited by author 11-09-2006 11:40 PM
Too bad Gerald Moreno doesn't have anything tangible to say about how Sai baba's black name is spreading like wildfire, and is now bandied about in the Muslim world as a confirmed paedophile. He can cry himself to sleep while trying to argue on Wikipedia that Salon.Com is not a reliable source when he has no less than two administrators disagreeing with his ridiculous position, ROFLOL.

GERALD MORENO DECEPTION /m269 /m1105
:-)

Edited by author 11-09-2006 11:40 PM
That's why Krishna is 99% of the time depicted in blue, maybe something is going on that you don't know about. What a shame you don't know Sanskrit. :-)

Anyway, stop talking irrelevant garbage you closet homosexual and open embracer of perverts, drunkards and drug addicts. Go away to Wikipedia and continue your humiliating defeat by two Wikipedia administrators over the reliability of Salon.Com, LOL. You silly fool, of course the ArbCom decision is doomed to fail. You're trying to propose a "test case" whichif you win, thousands (millions?) of Wikipedia articles will have to be modified and their Salon references deleted. No wonder you accepted defeat and thought an RFC is better.

Get your head out of your anus and wake up to reality. You are an insane devotee of a faggot guru who also supports other child rapists like Premananda, you were even molested by Sai Baba. No wonder everyone laughs at you, and no wonder "nobody noticed" all of your pages on the Net. You are a

wacko

and everyone knows it. :-)

/m269 /m1105

Helloooooo, Mr. Freestone Wilson!! Are you out there anywhere?? Did you read my last post? Helllooooo! In case you didn't catch it before, it's post #1087.

I'm Carolyn/Kickbaaabaaaa'sass. Please read my post! I'd love to hear from you.

Maybe you can help me with this one, Gerald 'Joe' Moreno? Maybe you could answer for him. Do you know if he's really neutral? Are you? Your website blog name seems to claim that you are the great Equalizer. Seems to me your balance button is a bit off. Need some adjusting? Seems that Freestone claims to be neutral and you claim to be the great Equalizer. How can an equalizer equal anything if his balance is way off? For example, can you try to be "nice" to any aniti-sai activist? Come on now, just try it. Don't you know that's how you "win" one over? If you were "nice" to any anti-sai person, they might listen to you a little better. It's hard, however, to convince an anti-sb activist that sb is good when they've all had horrific experiences with him. You might have a very difficult job here (actually it's an impossible job) trying to "Equalize" anything.

There's also another way of looking at your job here as Equalizer. This is way more accurate. The anti-sb activists are far winning and you're trying to help out poor sb. He's pretty far down there on the scale so you'll have to fight EXTRA hard to get him back up there!! I don't think you're doing very well, however. None of us have changed our minds about sb. Now, if the anti-sb activists were far down on the scale, and you are the great Equalizer, then why aren't you being nice to them and encouraging them so that they feel "equal"? You are doing a very BAD job. I'd fire you if I were your boss.

Alas! I have my answer! You really don't know what you're doing out there, do you? You don't really know what your function is, now do you? You are definitely a sb activist, because your actions prove you are. But, of course, we all know that by now. You see, how can anyone believe ANYTHING that you say when you are so "off balance"? Is any of this making sense to the great Equalizer? What is your job? Do you know yet? On a little friendly note, you might want to change a few things on your web site-- like the Equalizer title. It just makes you look really stupid. Of course you probably like that.... being stupid, that is.

Oh and by the way, once again you still prove your stupidity when you post my story as Barbara's. That's how we know that you lie about everyone else! Oh, but I forgot, everyone knows how much you lie. Silly me. You defeat your own purpose! Where's my Exposed file? Oh that's right, you still believe that I'm a non-entity. I guess that means that I can write all that I want and you will never acknowledge me as real. Actually, it's because you cannot find out ANYTHING about me. I intend to keep it that way. I'd rather communicate about you than with you. Now, let's see, if I go to your site, will you know that I am real? Can you see if your site is on MY favorites list? Seems like you double whammy yourself a lot. Are your "nuts" feeling a little bruised lately?

Well this one "non-entity" has better things to do right now than showing you how to do your job. I did, however, have fun Equalizing you. Ta-Tah

Edited by author 11-10-2006 01:52 AM
/m1151

With Sanjay, any hate'll do. He is a sociopathic bigot.

Sanjay (aka innitball) wrote:
"And also explain how he [Krishna] can be black while simultaneously being very
beautiful?"

Edited by author 11-10-2006 02:10 AM
/m1154

Carolyn, when anti-Sais won't even listen to the Prime Minister of India, two Supreme Court Justices of India, Tony Blair, or God for that matter...what makes you think they are going to listen to anybody else?

Not only that but you people are the ones constantly attacking others and then playing the victims. You refuse to FACE FACTS. You refuse to listen to others who PRESENT FACTS. So really, you have no one to blame but yourselves.

This is called a FACT (deal with it):

Prime Minister Vajpayee's Statement

"We are deeply pained and anguished by the wild, reckless and concocted allegations made by certain vested interests and people against Bhagawan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. We would normally expect that responsible media would ascertain the true facts before printing such calumny - especially when the person is revered globally as an embodiment of love and selfless service to humanity. Since this professional ethic has not been observed by a section of the media, we have elected to go public with this signed statement."(2000)



This is called a FACT (deal with it):

In a January 23, 2002 letter to former MP, Tony Colman, Blair wrote:

"...Foreign and Commonwealth (FCO) and other Government Departments are aware of the many allegations against Sai Baba. Our High Commission in New Delhi and Deputy High Commission in Chennai continue to monitor the situation closely. However, as I explained to you last year, there is little that the Government can do. Those who have complaints against Sai Baba will have to take them to the Indian police. No formal charges have been brought against him."

Sai Baba EXPOSED... Sanjay :) Once again, thank you for such great efforts you have made to this website, keeping us informed. I am astounded at how much energy and information you have under your command. I especially thank you for exposing Joe-screwy Jerry, more and more. It's good to know that others also know exactly who and what Joe Moreno is... all around the world. I read and read and read, as well as all the links. Whee! Thank you, once again. The work you did on him was excellent. Sometimes I think you are like me in that when he doesn't show up for "work" here, we poke a little fun at him... just for fun. Funny how you can't take the truth out of the Plan. These demon devotees think they are so clearly unknown, unseen for all their dirty mean deeds. I think I'll gather up all the incorrect things he posted under my name and sue him for liabel too. And for any others that also want his whereabouts, I talked to a female police officer in New Mexico, and she gave me his address. He lives at 2540 S. ESPINE ST. APT 2 L Las Cruces, New Mexico U.S.A. 88001-5651... in case anyone anywhere wants to report him. Or if you like waking him up several times in the night, please call him at 1-505-525-1772. I thought maybe we could all surprise him with a visit from the Las Cruces police. I hear they don't like him either. They say he's drunk half the time, and rarely goes out during the day because he's so UUUGGGLY. He can feel that others are laughing at him. Some say he has only a sofabed he drowns his red-eyed sorrows on. We see that most of his furniture is moved out already of his dinky-stinky, wrong-side-of-town, rat infested garbage dump he lives in. I bet he hasn’t swept his floor but two or three times a year.

So in conclusion, dark and surly Joe, we on this website all want to offer you our condolences for your lack of funds. We know you're bitterly disappointed that you have so little money that you are unable to visit your rapidly dying devil father in India for his birthday celebration. Too bad. I know you were hoping to get your hands on a couple of those youngsters, fresh meat, that is visiting Sai... and not you. You were always such a lonely little homo, your deceased mother just said. And also this. Don't forget to eat some peas or carrots once in awhile. Eating so much of your favorite food, potato chips, only makes you lazy and fatter. And the greasy smell of too much rancid oil doesn't get washed off frequently enough from that puffy, blubbery looking toad-like body. I know you don't have much hair, but at least brush your scalp a time or two. It's too greasy and it shines like the moon. And try using something other than bacon grease for your infrequently brushed teeth. Take a bath at least every three days, because the pubic stench is way too pungid. I know you think you're not deserving of so much hammering hate, but you were such a bastard to me and all of my friends, when I lived on earth. Why didn't you ever help me around the house? You always said, Mom, I'm way too tired, then you sat down. Well, so was I. Well, I know you always felt I did nothing but nag you, but now you know why. My oh my, what's a mother to do? Maybe these people can talk some sense into you, like GET A JOB, and stop living off the welfare system. You're not too fat to work now are you? There's a hamburger joint just up the road called McDonald's. They're probably hiring. At least try and do something with your life. You know how it is, 'son' idle hands are the devil's playthings." Mom.

Origin Of Akhanda-Bhajan

"Embodiment of the Pure Atman! Last November (of 1975), on the 23rd, people from all parts of the world had assembled here to celebrate the Golden Jubilee, and the office-bearers of the (Sai) Centres were here for the Second World Conference and other functions that took place. Later, they expressed their desire that they should be allotted a date before the close of the Jubilee Year, when they in their own places could celebrate the happy occasion. In order to overcome their disappointment, it was decided that in all (Sai) Centres all over the world, Bhajan (Namasamkirtan) be held for twenty-four hours, beginning at 6:30 p.m. on Saturday (yesterday, 13 November 1976), and ending at 6:30 p.m. today (14 November J 976). Therefore, in 42 countries around the globe more than 7000 centres have enthusiastically taken up this pleasant assignment. This has been named an Akhanda Bhajan, that is to say, Bhajan done without a break" Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. X. p. 66

"Srimati Sundaramma is one of the old devotees who has known Sri Sathya Sai Baba since he was a boy of sixteen. Her father, Seshagiri Rao, came to Sri Sathya Sai Baba after her. Sundaramma continued the weekly Bhajan singing with great dedication and without interruption for an entire year. Her father, Seshagiri Rao, thought that they should celebrate the completion of the year of Bhajan-singing in a suitable style. Each member of the family thought of different ways to celebrate the anniversary in a befitting manner, but Seshagiri Rao's idea that was adopted: Akhanda Bhajan (unbroken Bhajans) for the one whole day and one whole night. The decision having been taken, they got down to planning the performance at their house - which songs to sing, what Prasadam to distribute and pooling of resources to obtain the ingredients of Prasadam. This was particularly tricky as, in those days. there was rationing of rice and the system had to be worked out fairly in cash and in kind.

After making all the preliminary arrangements, father and daughter went to Puttaparthi to announce their attention to Sri Sathya Sai Baba. He was very happy to hear their plans and responded startlingly, "I have come only for this reason, for the sake of my devotees. Go ahead with the Akhanda Bhajans. I will go there and be with you throughout the singing."

Sundaramma explained that, up to that moment, they had planned only a very simple celebration. But, if Sri Sathya Sai Baba was himself going to attend, then, she felt that she ought to make more elaborate arrangements. Then Sri Sathya Sai Baba said he would take charge of all the arrangements. He asked her to book a place in town and to have the Akhanda Bhajans sung there so that all those who wanted to attend could do so more conveniently. He also advised her to ask other devotees to assist in the event.

Sundaramma was in a quandary at this unexpected turn of events. To cope with an occasion, such as it was turning out to be, was a gigantic task in those days when even transportation was very difficult. She calculated that about a hundred regular devotees might turn up for the first Akhanda Bhajan and so she had Prasadam prepared for that number. However, hundreds of devotees turned up on that day. They had learned of the event by word of mouth and in dreams and visions of Sri Sathya Sai Baba. Sundaramma became anxious about how she would provide enough Prasadam to all.

Puja to Shirdi Sai Baba's and Sri Sathya Sai Baba's images was performed under a gaily bedecked floral canopy. Sri Sathya Sai Baba materialized a silver figurine of Sri Shirdi Sai Baba to keep beside a large bust of Sri Shirdi Sai Baba, especially made for the occasion. Then, with circular movements of hand, he produced 108 golden flowers for the Puja. After Archana (offering with Mantras) of rare flowers, Seshagiri Rao performed Paadapuja (worship of the feet) to Sri Sathya Sai Baba who lighted the Akhanda Jyoti (ever-lasting flame) at the Bhajan meeting.

Sundaramma then requested Sri Sathya Sai Baba to come into the kitchen and pronounce Akshya (limitless) blessings over the food. He looked at the cooked food and loudly said "Akshaya" thrice. Then he sprinkled water on the food and left.

Sundaramma remembers with awe how food prepared for a hundred people fed several thousands people easily, even generously. The pot containing the Prasadam simply never became empty. At last, before leaving the kitchen, Sundaramma entreated Sri Sathya Sai Baba to let the pot be empty and then it was easily emptied. 'Such was the nature of Swami's blessing that it ensured an unending stream of food,' said Sundaramma.

The event was truly remarkable. The first Akhanda Jyoti, organized by Seshagiri -Rao, has led the lighting of thousands of other Akhanda Jyotis on Akhanda Bhajan day in Sai Samithis Bhajan centres throughout the world." Extracted from Shakuntala Balu's book "Living Divinity", First edition, 1983, pp.175-177

Glimpses Of The Akhanda Bhajan At Prasanthi Nilayam (1994)

"The Akhanda Bhajan had special significance this year when Bhagavan lighted the Akhanda Jyoti on November 12, 1994, in the renovated Prasanthi Mandir. The Mandir wore a new attractive look with seven artistically designed and exquisitely executed domes replacing the old ones, besides the huge imposing new Mandap in front for accommodating the vast concourse of devotees waiting for Darshan. The Mandap with twenty massive ornamental pillars, covered with shining polished granite slabs and bearing a lotus-shaped bowl to carry concealed lighting, transformed the former open Darshan grounds into a spacious hall with polished black and white marble slabs for the flooring. Two wings of the hall appeared like two gigantic pianos, with a series of elephant images decorating the frieze. At night the Mandir appeared like a Fairy Land with multi-coloured illuminations setting the Mandir in bold relief and enhancing the beauty of the sacred edifice."

"The Mandap was filled with thousands of eager devotees from all over the world while the Mandir was occupied by students from three campuses of the Sai Institute. On the Akhanda Bhajan day (Saturday, 12th November), Bhagavan came to the Mandap before the Bhajans started and gave Darshan to all sections of the crowd. The Akhanda Bhajan commenced at 6:00 p.m. after Bhagavan lighted the Akhanda Jyoti (lamp) in the Mandir. After the first song on Ganesha sung by the men students, the Bhajan song, "Akhanda Jyoti Jalao" was sung by the women students. The Bhajans continued non­stop for twenty-four hours with men and women leading by turns."

"Bhagavan sat through the Bhajan for nearly two hourc on Saturday. On Sunday morning, Bhagavan went round the devotees, giving Darshan, and stayed for the Bhajans for two hours. The Bhajan came to a close at 6.00 p.m. on Sunday, with the distribution of Prasadam to all the devotees with the-blessings of Bhagavan. Prasadam consisted of tamarind rice and sweet rice. Bhagavan supervised the distribution of Prasadam after taking Aarati and stayed on till all were served." Editor. SS, 12/94, p. 318

Important Questions Concerning Bhajan

QUESTION: Years of Bhajan and Meditation have not borne fruit in me; I am where I was before. Why?

Sri Sathya Sai Baba: "How can fire be struck from a wet match-stick? Soaked in worldly desires and caught in material entanglements, how can the light of wisdom shine in your head? How can you generate the fire of Jnana" SSS, Vol. X. p. 140

QUESTION: The Lord told Narada that he could find Him installed wherever His glory is sung by His devotees. Does it mean that He is installed in the thousands of places where Bhajan is sung?

Sri Sathya Sai Baba: "No. The pre-condition is 'sung by devotees'. The devotees sing to please God, to acclaim His Majesty. They do not crave for exhibition, appreciation or fame, nor have they any envy or pride in their hearts. Tansen was a celebrated singer attached to the court of Emperor Akbar. He was so talented that when he sang the Raga Megahmala, clouds gathered thick in the sky. When he sang Varuna, rain fell. When he sang Nagaswara. serpents flocked before him. One day while Akbar was engaged in prayer, he heard a Haridasa, a wandering mendicant, singing a song which touched his heart immensely. Akbar called Tansen to his presence and asked him why he could not touch his heart so deeply. 'You have all gifts and are the most talented singer, yet Haridasa moved me as never before. Why?' Tansen said, 'Maharaj, while I sing, I look upon your face to discover whether you are pleased or not. The Dasa sings always looking at the Face of God before him, and he is happy only when God is pleased.' Bhajan must be sung from the heart and should not just emanate from the lips." SSS. Vol. X, pp. 140 & 141


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From the book - Festivals at Prasanthi Nilayam - An Exposition by Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba - Compiled and Edited by Suresh C Bhatnagar


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Significance of the Akhanda Bhajan can also be found here

General Guidelines For Conducting Bhajans

"In the Sadhana (spiritual practice) of Nama Smarana (remembering God's Name), which I prescribe, two other complementary processes are included along the recollection of the Name and the fixation of the mind on the Name: (i) there must be purity of feeling, (ii) and dwelling on the meaning of the Name. That will ensure success." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. VI. 177.

"When the Puja (worship) with 108 or 1008 names is progressing, do not be satisfied when the sound falls on the ear. Try to grasp the meaning too, so that you can ruminate over the glory which each name denotes." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. VII, p. 287

"Many people do Japa (reciting God's name) and join Bhajans, but they are not aware of the meaning and value of the words they utter mechanically." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. IX, p. 167

"Take the Name of the Lord and repeat it always. Do Bhajans with faith and enthusiasm. Let the whole city shake with devotion you put into the Name." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. 1, p. 132

"When you sing Bhajan songs, dwell also on the meaning of the songs and the message of each Name and Form of God. Do not waste time purposelessly; let every moment be a Bhajan." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. V, p. 331

"Discipline has to be observed in speech, sport and every kind of relationship. For instance, during Bhajans, all those singing in chorus have to maintain the same tune. Discordant singing will jar the ears. Singing Bhajans in unison is a form of discipline." Sai Baba. SS. 7/96. p. 174

"When the Name is repeated without concentration and without reverence, it cannot cleanse the mind. Now the Name is on the tongue, the word is in the mind and the owner of the Name is in the heart." Sai Baba, SSS. VI, p. 165

"Bhajans must be sung from the heart and just should not emanate from the lips." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. X. p. 140

"Bhajan must be a felt experience. Let your heart pant for God, then Raaga (tune) and Taala (rhythm) will automatically be pleasant and correct. Sincerity will blot out all errors in Raaga and Taala." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. VIII. p. 57

"The Bhajans, this time, were done in a ritualistic fashion. Greater attention was paid to Raaga, Taala, Laya and Shruti (the melody, the beat, the rhythm and the tone). All these are conventional qualities (Vyaavaahaarika). To elevate the Bhajans to a spiritual level what are required are true feeling and the ecstasy of devotion. The (devotional) songs should flow not from the lips but from the heart. When the songs come out of the heart they will be blissful for the ears.'^ Sai Baba. SS, 4/97, p. 94

"Let melody and harmony surge up from your hearts and let all take delight in the love that you express through that (devotional) song." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X. p. 75

"The words of a song can be expressed in a prosaic manner which has no appeal to the listener. But when they are sung melodiously, they tug at the heartstrings. (As in the song "Rama! Nannu Kaapaadu"- "Rama!" save me. Swami sang the song to demonstrate its appeal.) Such sweetness is contained in the song when it is rendered melodiously." Sai Baba, SS, 4/92, p. 70

"Conduct your Bhajans with a pure unsullied heart, oblivious to all worldly desires. When you chant the Lord's Name with a pure heart, you will experience the Divine." Sai Baba, SS. 4/97. p. 94

Crores (millions of rupees) are being spent to purify the Ganges water. Of what use is this exercise if the Ganges continues to be polluted by the discharge of drainage water into the river? First prevent the flow of filthy effluents into the Ganges. In the same manner, the evil thoughts arising in the mind should be diverted and it should be filled with pure godly thoughts by reciting the Divine Name. Everyone participating in Bhajans should sing the Name of the Lord and thereby serve to purify the atmosphere and promote the well-being of the nation." Sai Baba. SS. 4/92. p. 71

"Bhajans have to be sung to please the Lord, not your fans. With each Bhajan sung, the mind must be rendered purer, freer from passion, and stronger in faith." Sai Baba. SS. 12/74. p. 297 & SSS. Vol. IX, p. 162

"You should sing whole-heartedly with the desire to please God. God makes no distinction between a proficient musician and a beggar in the street. It is the devotion and sincerity that matters. Merge your soul in the Bhajans you sing. Spiritualize your Bhajan-singing. Then you will experience real bliss." "Once Emperor Akbar asked his court musician how he would account for the fact that a wayside beggar's music moved him more profoundly than the music of the state musician? The latter replied that while the beggar sang from his heart to please God, his music constrained by the desire to please the Emperor." Sai Baba. SS, 4/97, p. 96

"The hands should be lifted in prayer and the words should come out full-throated. It is unfortunate that even those who are gifted with good voices do not sing aloud in Bhajans." Sai Baba. SS. 8/96. p. 206

"Bhajans have to be sung and offered to God in an attitude of utter humility. They are not to be taken as exercises in an exhibition of talent and competitions for mastery of musical skill." Sai Baba. SS, 12/74, p. 297 & SSS, Vol. IX. p. 162

"When a man falls into a well, of what use is it if he controls his voice and his emotions and whispers quietly, 'I have fallen into this well, I have fallen into this well. I am in a great danger. Please save me.' No one will be able to hear or save him. He must shout full-throated, with all anguish he is experiencing and with extreme desire to be saved, "I HAVE FALLEN INTO THE WELL! SAVE ME! SAVE ME SOMEONE!" Then only can he hope to get succour. Similarly, when you are caught in the coils of this world, when you have fallen into this deep well of worldly misery, shout with all your might, with all your heart that God may save you. There is no use of muttering faintly and half-heartedly. 'Save me; I am floundering in this Samsar.' When the prayer comes shrieking through the heart, help is assured." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X. p. 68

"Some persons attending Bhajans do not move their lips at all. They may say that they are singing the songs mentally within themselves. This is not proper. If you have a devotional feeling, it should be expressed by the tongue joining in the Bhajan. Only then it can be called "Sankirtana"- singing in unison with others. You must sing the Names aloud, full-throated, as far as the voice can reach. Only then the Divine will respond in full measure and shower His grace. No one will go to the rescue of a drowning man if his cries are feeble. Only when he cries aloud at the top of his voice, the cries will be heard and people will rush to save him." Sai Baba, SS. 4/92. p. 70

"Attitudes of difference and distinction should not enter the hearts of devotees so far this sacred Sadhana is concerned. It would be far better for all parties if such self-important and conceited folk stay away from Bhajans rather than pollute the sacred atmosphere by spirit of rivalry and factionalism." Sai Baba, SS, 12/74. p. 297 & SSS, Vol. IX, p. 162

"Bhajans where you quarrel and compete, and revel in putting down others and raising yourselves, might give you satisfaction. But, let me announce here, they do not please Me at all." Sai Baba, SS. 12/74. p. 297 & SSS. Vol. IX. p. 163

"In singing Bhajans, there should be no spirit of competition and no caviling of others. The entire concentration should be on the Name and Form of God." Sai Baba. SS, 3/96, p. 61

"Remember! All are the sons and daughters of Sai Maataa (Mother). How can I tolerate when the sons and daughters quarrel among themselves into rival groups? Unless you sing Bhajans for your own joy, you cannot bring joy to others." Sai Baba, SS. 12/74. p. 297 & SSS. Vol. DC. p. 163

"During Bhajans the women are engaged in mutual recrimination. They quarrel over seats. Can't they experience Bhagavan wherever they are?" Sai Baba, SS. 7/96, p. 184.

"The office-bearers in the units of our (Sai) Organization should be ever vigilant, that this poison does not creep into the working of the units, either in Bhajans, or in the activities ofMahila Vibhag (women wing),-or Seva Dal (human service wine of volunteers)." Sai Baba, SS, 12/74. p. 297 & SSS. Vol. IX. p. 163

"I am pleased only when love is the keynote, when the feeling of unity prevails, when the melody comes from a cleansed God-loving heart." Sai Baba. SS, 12/74. p. 297 & SSS. Vol. IX. p. 163

"I do not need Bhajans which like gramophone records reproduce songs and Naamaavalis, without any feeling or yearning while singing. Hours of shouting do not count, a moment of concentrated prayer from the heart is enough, to melt and move God." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. IV, p. 149

"Some people affirm that the Bhajans used at the Prasanthi Nilayam alone should be sung. But God is omnipresent. He is the in-dweller in every heart. All Names are His. So you can call on Him by any Name that gives you joy." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. VI, p. 238

"This (Sai) Organization believes that the Atma (soul) in each is the Atma in all, and the God that each worships is the God that all worship. You cannot insist that in the Bhajans, only songs on Sathya Sai should be sung. Fanaticism of that kind I very much dislike and condemn. For. all Names and all Forms denote Me only. You betray your ignorance of My Truth when you stick to anyone of My Names and avoid the rest." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. VIII, p. 71

"Do not care for what others feel about your Dhyana or Bhajan. Do not seek the approval, appreciation, admiration of others, or refrain from Dhyana because others dislike it or ridicule it. Be self-reliant, self-confident, see through your own eyes, hear through your own ears." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. X. p. 73

"I have been observing how the Bhajans are sung. When the girls sing, the boys do not follow in chorus. When the boys sing, the girls do not respond. When both are singing the Divine Name, why should not they sing in unison? What is the reason for this narrow separatism? This should be given up." Sai Baba. SS. 4/97. p. 96

"When you sing Bhajans, take care that words you utter do not convey negative meanings. Here is an example. Our boys (students) sing many Hindi Bhajans, in which they often use the word 'Thu'. They sing 'Thu Rama', 'Thu Krishna', 'Thu Sai' which does not convey the respectful way of addressing the Lord. The Bhajans you sing must convey sacred meanings. You should not use any disrespectful words in Bhajans." Sai Baba. SS, 4/2001. p. 114

"There should not be any wrong word in Bhajans. If you sing in this way, every word that you utter would have sanctity." Sai Baba, SS, 4/2001, p. 115

"When the Bhajans end, you should go out in silence. When you get back to your apartments, you may discuss your private affairs. But as a rule, observe restraint in speech everywhere. It helps to conserve energy. Excessive talk affects the nerves. You are liable to forget what you have heard." Sai Baba, SS, 8/96, p. 211

"At the end of a Bhajan, we say 'Shanti' three times. This prayer is for peace of the body, the mind and the spirit. Without this trine peace, man cannot have real peace." Sai Baba, SS, 11/97, p. 289

Sing Bhajans With Full Concentration - An Episode

"Today there is no steadiness of mind in man. Some people think of their footwear when they sit for Bhajans inside. Once Ramakrishna Paramahansa was giving a discourse in a temple. Rani Rasamani, the owner of the temple, was sitting in the front row. All were listening to Ramakrishna's discourse with rapt attention. All of a sudden, Ramakrishna got up, went to Rani Rasamani and slapped on her cheek. Everyone was surprised. They thought that Ramakrishna had become mad. Ramakrishna told the public, '0 people, you may think it is a great mistake on my part to have slapped her. What for you come? You are here to listen to my teachings. Whether you practise or not, at least you should listen to what is being said. If you do not like to listen to the discourse, you better stay back at home. This Rani Rasamani is thinking of her legal disputes. Why should she come all the way to think of the court affairs?' She accepted her mistake and promised not to repeat it. In modern age, many people attend spiritual discourses and get impressed by them. But they do not put them into practice." Sai Baba, SS. 2/99. p. 48

Music With Bhajans

"Bhaava (feeling), Raaga (melody) and Taala (rhythm) are the essentials for proper singing. Even the name of Bharat (for India) signifies th? combination of these three elements. (Bh-Ra-Ta). In every action in daily life, the combination of these three elements should be observed. This rule can be applied even to one's studies. "Bhaava", in relation to study of a subject, means understanding the subject thoroughly. "Raaga" implies cultivating love for the subject and "Taala" means expressing one's knowledge coherently and clearly." Sai Baba. SS, 4/892, p. 69

"Its essential purpose is to earn the love of God. Combining one's voice, tune, feeling and the rhythm to appropriate beat of the song, the devotee should immerse himself in the singing. Harmonizing the feeling with devotion and love, the sacred words of song -should be an outpouring of love towards Gcd. That alone is devotional s'rging. When the song is rendered without understanding the meanings of the words and without any inner feeling or genuine love for God, it is mechanical performance." Sai Baba. SS, 4/92. p. 69

"Bhajans do not become effective through drums, cymbals, violins and other accessories. They cover up essential things- feelings, emotions, yearning, sincerity and faith." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. IV. p. 148

"Musical instruments used during Bhajans should not drown the voice of the singer and those who follow. If there is mor»than one instrument used, maintain a balance among instruments along with singing." Sai Baba

"While singing Bhajans, you should utter the Names (of God) from the depth of the heart, not concentrating on Raaga (tune) and Taala (rhythm)." Sai Baba, SS, 6/94, p. 150

"Realise that what matters when they (singers) sing Bhajans is not the tune or the conduct of Bhajans, but the genuineness of the feeling with which they sing Bhajans. When their hearts are pure and full of deep devotion, the Bhajans will be full of feeling and will appeal to the hearts of the listeners. What ensures from the heart is 'positive', while what comes from the mind is often negative" Sai Baba. SS, 4/98. p. 92

Attributes To Be Attained By Bhajan Singers

"When you do Bhajans and sing the Name of God, you should contemplate on underlying truth. The Naamaavali, 'Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare; Hare Krishna. Hare Krishna, Krishana Krishna Hare Hare' has sixteen words. Each of the sixteen signifies a virtue, which has to be cultivated along with that Bhajan. (i) He must be a Bhakta (full of devotion), (ii) a Tapo-yukta (prepared to enjoy sufferings), (iii) a Samsara-mukta (detached from worldly attractions), (iv) a Padaasakta (eager to serve the Lord), (v) a Vihitha (correct conduct), (vi) a Daana-sahita (charitable), (vii) a Yashomahita (with unsullied reputation), (vni) a Kalmasha-rahita (unblemished), (ix) a Poorna (fully content), (x) a Guna-Gana (endowed with all virtues), (xi) an Utteerna (equipped with all virtues), (xii) a Vidya-vikeerna (equipped with all fruits of learning), (xiii) a Jnana-visteerna (ripe in wisdom), (xiv) a Swaantha (self-controlled), (xv) a Sadguna-Kranta (adorned with social traits), (xv) a Vinaya Vishranta (moved by humility), and finally (xvi) a Pada-swantha (fully dedicated to God)." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. 1, pp. 164 & 165

Location And Time For Conducting Bhajan Sessions

"The Bhajan Mahdalis (groups), Satsahgs (spiritual meetings) and Bhakta Mandalis (devotional groups), are now established, must spread the message of Naama-smarana (remembering God's name), Bhajan and Naama-sam-kirtana at all times and in all places." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. VI, p. 42

"Have Bhajans on as many days as you can, in your village or area. Have them in places where all can come and join, not in the homes of some people, for in homes not all may be welcome." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. VI, pp. 237

"Bhajans are best held on Thursday evenings and Sunday evenings. But there is no unbreakable rule. for it is not the day of the week that counts. It is the heart that must be ready and eager to imbibe the joy and share it." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. VI. p. 238"Group Bhajans must be arranged to suit the convenience of the locality and the people." Sai Baba. SSS, Vol. VI. p. 238

Expenses For Holding Bhajans

"Have Bhajans as simple as you can, without any competitive pomp and show. Reduce expenses to the minimum, for God cares for the inner yearnings, and not the outer trappings. Even this small unavoidable expenditure must be silently shared spontaneously by a few members of the committee, and not collected by means of a (donation) plate or Hundi pot. or a subscription or a donation list. The participants must be bound by love, affection, loyalty, one Name and Form." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. VI. p. 237

The Magic Of Bhajans

"Remembering the Name is the panacea. When the Name is chanted as a song set to music, it delights the heart immensely. Many pundits recite the Names as verse (shalokas). They do no experience the intense yearning expressed in the stanzas. Some actors are able to pronounce the words loud and clear, but without any depth of feeling. But when the Names are sung melodiously they appeal to the hearts of the singers and the listeners. Even non-believers and agnostics nod their hearts in appreciation when they listen to devotional music. The words of a song can be expressed in a prosaic manner, which has no appeal to the listener. But when they are sung melodiously, they tug at the heartstrings. Everyone, whether he is well-versed in music or not, should listen attentively to the singer and try to repeat the words of the song with feelings." Sai Baba, SS. 4/92, p. 70

"Do Bhajans and have the Name of the Lord on your lips. Do not waste even a single moment. By chanting the name of Rama, Hanuman, the monkey, became all-powenul, the embodiment of peace and the exemplar of all noble qualities. Sita was full of praise for him." Sai Baba, SS, 12/87. p. 324

"Kamadhenu, the wish-fulfilling heavenly cow, can be drawn and tied to a post by means of a rope. God too. can be drawn towards you by the rope (God's Name), and tied to the post (the tongue). Then His Name will be dancing upon the tongue forever, conferring the sv/eetness of His Majesty. The Name (of God) has to be sung for your own delight, to quench your own thirst, to appease your own hunger. No one eats to appease another's hunger, nor takes drugs to alleviate another's illness. So do not care for what others feel about your Dhyana or Bhajan." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. X, p. 73

Bhajan Should Be A Continuous Process

''Do not think that it is enough if you just sing Bhajans when the people from the (Sai) Seva Samiti come and join you. Sing them in your minds, silently and sincerely, when you are at work, with your friends or even alone by yourself. Just as a torch in your hand shows you the way if you are walking at night in the dark, the Name of God on your tongue will guide you through the night of ignorance in your journey of life." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X, p. 154

Meaning Of Bhajan

"The word "Bhajan" has been derived from the Sanskrit root "Bhaj" which means to render service. Bhajan singing is indeed a mode of providing service for the audience to purify their head and heart." Sai Baba

Meaning Of Kirtana

"Kirtana is the word used for the recital or singing of the Name and the Glory of God." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. VI, p. 217

"Kirtana is singing aloud the Glory of God." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X, p. 67

"Keertanam (Kirtanam) is an individual affair. It is singing by an individual for the fulfillment of his prayers." Sai Bubu. SS, 4/92, p. 67

Meaning Of Sankirtana/Sankeertanam

"Samyak-K-eertanam Sankeertanam (Congregational singing of Bhajans) is the best form of Bhajans. Sankeertanam aims at the well-being of the whole universe. This is also described as "'Saamaajika Bhajans (community singing). This method of singing Bhajans was first initiated by Guru Nanak. the founder ot'Sikhism. 'Sankeertana' aims at demonstrating unity in diversity. When all the participants combine to sing in unison with one voice, it is described as "Sankeertana." Sai Baba, SS. 4/92, pp. 67 & 68

"San-kirtana means reciting or singing well, or aloud with joy in ecstasy.." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. VI. p. 217

"Combining one's voice, tune, feeling and rhythm to the appropriate beat of the song, the devotee should immerse himself in singing. Harmonizing the feeling with devotion and love, the sacred words of the song should be an outpouring of love towards God. That alone is devotional singing (Sankirtana)." Sai Baba. SS, 4/92, p. 69

"Sankirtana is the process of singing that originates in the heart, nor from the tongue. It is the expression of the joyous thrill that wells up from the heart when the Glory of God is remembered. It is the spontaneous manifestation of the inner ecstasy. No attention is paid to blame or praise that others may give. It does not seek the admiration or the appreciation of the listeners. It is sung for one's own joy, one's own satisfaction, and one's own delight. Kirtana of this supreme type alone deserves the name Sankirtana" Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. X, p. 67

Purpose

"What is the essence of Sankirtana? Its essential purpose is to earn the love of God." Sai Baba, SS. 4/92. p. 69

Different Forms Of San-Kirtana

The name of the Lord has been glorified in different ways all over the world. Jayadeva was one who enjoyed always the sports (Leelas) of the Divine." Sal Baba. SS. 4/98. p. 68

"Hanuman was proficient in music. There was none that could excel him in singing. Even Narada Tumbura could not prevail against him." Sai Baba. SS.. 4/98. p. 69

"We can distinguish four different forms of Naama-sankirtana: (a)Bhaava-naama-San-kirtana. (b) Guna-Naama-Sankirtana, (c) Leela-Naama-San-kirtana, and (d) sheer Naama-Sankirtana." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. VI. p. 219

a. Bhaava-Naama-Sam-Kirtana:

"Bhaava Sankeertana is illustrated by Radha alone who expresses her different feelings towards God and identifies herself with the Divine in every mood of devotion. She expressed her devotion in five forms of Shanta (Serenity), Sakhya (friendliness, Vaatsalya (maternal love), Anuraag (affection), Madhura (sweetness). Radha and Mira were the exponents of' Bhaava-Sankeertana." Sai Baba, SS, 4/92, p. 68

"Bhaava-Naama San-kirtana is the name given to recitals where (God's) Name is sung with one emotion, or mental attitude (Bhaava) toward the Lord.(l) It can be Madhura-Bhaava (sweet emotion) as Radha was overpowered only by that sweetness at all times and places. Her adoration of God is the supreme example of Madhura-Bhaava. (2) Then we have Vaatsalya-bhaava-sankirtana. Yashoda, the foster mother of Krishna, can be taken as the ideal for this type of Bhaava (emotion). Though she had a series of experiences of Krishna being Divine, she preferred to save him as mother and adore him as her son. (3) Then there is Saakhya-Bhaava- Sankirtana (comrade feeling), as found in Arjuna who believed in Krishna as his intimate friend and brother-in-law (for he married Krishna's sister), and confided in him as a comrade. That too is an attitude that will attach you to divinity and sublimate the tower impulses. (4) Daasya-Bhaava- (servant-master attitude) Sankirtana is another type. Serve the Lord as His faithful unquestioning servant. This is the path of Hanumana in the Ramayana. (5) The last attitude is Sat-Bhaava-(unruffled, unconcerned) Naama-Sam-kirtana, praising the Lord, whatever may happen, undeviated by ups and downs, bearing all vagaries of fortune as His play. In the Mahabharata, you will find Bhishma saturated with this attitude. He adored Krishna even when Krishna was advancing towards him to kill him." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. VI. p. 219

"Bhava means 'attitude' (of mind). So, Bhava-Sankirtan means the adoration, in song, of God pictured and contacted under various relationships. Some may prefer to adore Him as the giver of equanimity (Santam), others as a friend, guide and guardian (Sakhya). still others as the child one loves and tends (Vatsalya) and yet others as the Lover whom one loves with sovereign love (Madhura)." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X, p. 68

b. Leela-Naama-Sam-Kirtana:

"Another method of Naama-Sam-kirtana is to remind oneself of the various exploits and sports, the various acts of grace and compassion, which the Lord has manifested in the world, while reciting His Name. This is called Leela-Naama-Sam-Kirtana. Chaitanya and Thyagraj realised the Lord through this path." Stii Bubu, SSS. Vol. VI, p. 219

"This is (also) exemplified by the 'Gita Govindam' of Jayadeva. “Sai Babti. SS, 4/92, p. 68

"Leela means 'sport', therefore Leela-San-kirtana is the adoration, in song, of the various expressions of these attributes as evidenced by the accounts of sages and seers of all faiths." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X. p. 68

c. Guna-Naama-San-Kirtana:

''Many recollect more of the majesty, the glory, the might, the mystery, the magnificence, the munificence, the love with which God has clothed Himself, while reciting His Name. This attitude is spoken of as Guna (attributes, characteristics) Nama-San-kirtana. Most of the saints gradually honoured in many lands are of this category." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. VI, p. 219

"Guna means 'attributes' (of God) So, Guna-Naama-Sankirtana is the adoration, in song, of manifold attributes of God - omnipresence, omniscience, compassion, majesty, etc." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. X, p. 68

"Guana-Sankeertana applies to the kind of Bhajan in which the devotee recites the auspicious qualities of the Divine, experiences oneness with the Divine, and acquires the godly qualities. Thyagaraja had recourse to this type of singing. In one of his keertanas, he exclaimed: " Oh Lord! You are beyond all words. Is it possible for even Brahma or other gods to extol your glorious exploits? I am waiting for your grace. Hearken to my entreaties. You restored life to the preceptor's son whom the Lord of Death had taken. away. You conquered the God of Love. You liberated from prison Vasudeva and Devaki. You protected Draupadi when appealed in despair. You were the guardian ofPandavas. You relieved Kuchela of his poverty. You saved 16,000 damsels from subjection." In this manner, Thyagaraja recounted the great qualities of God in his songs." Sai Baba, SS. 2/92. p. 68

d. Naama-Sam-Kirtana:

"Another category is denoted by seekers who attach value to the syllables and sound of the Name (of God) irrespective of the meaning thereof. When the Name is pronounced, they say, it draws the aspirant toward God and His grace, whatever may be the Bhaava (emotion), whether the Leela (sports) or Guna (attributes) is associated with the Sam-Kirtana or not. The Name (of God) has a strength, a power, a capacity to redeem, cure and save, alone and unaided, they aver." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. VI. p. 219

"Nama means the 'Name of God'. So, Nama-Sankirtan means the adoration of God, calling upon Him by various Names, each describing His glory. His achievements, His relationship with the individual. The Names are many. or even countless. It is so in all languages. We have many groups of thousand and eight Names, which can be used for God, as the Vedas declare, has a 'thousand heads', a thousand eyes. and a thousand feet. Devotees can adore Him and derive bliss through that adoration, filling each Name with the meaning and significance it carries." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. X. pp. 68 & 69

"Chaitanya was the exponent of this form of Kirtana. "All Names are yours.. There is nothing in this cosmos which does not bear the imprint of your Name or Form,' Chaitanya revelled in singing the Names of the Lord as signifying all that was beautiful and glorious in the universe." Sai Baba. SS, 4/98, p. 68

Congretational Bhajan Singing

Founder Of Community Bhajan Singing

This method of singing Bhajans was first initiated by Guru Nanak, the founder of Sikhism." Sai Baba, SS. 4/92, p. 67

Importance

"Community singing sets up vibrations which will cleanse the atmosphere." Sai Baba, SS, 2/98. p. 33

"When all the devotees participate in the Bhajan, the vibrations that are produced will generate joy and harmony." Sai Baba. SS. 11/86. p. 280

"Bhajans that arc sung permeate the entire ether in the form of sound waves and fill the entire atmosphere; thereby the whole environment gets purified. By breathing in this purified atmosphere, our hearts get purified." Sai Baba

"Bhajan has been part of our (Indian) culture, part of the Sanatana Dharma tradition. But it has survived, however, in an attenuated form, in the villages only. It has disappeared from the towns, where people have more 'exciting' ways of spending time and recuperating their spirits. But this programme of congregational Bhajan by all, must be fostered, developed and transplanted in the towns later. I am glad to note that the young men of this (Seegehalli) village and of the adjacent villages, especially those who are attending the Sri Sai College, are evincing keen interest in these Bhajans. That is indeed a promising sign fraught with great potential for the future of this country. They are cleansing their own minds and helping to cleanse the atmosphere of these villages." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. X, p. 81 (Seegehalli, 4-12-76)

Rules For Conducting Community Bhajans

"When the chanting of the (Divine) Name is done in community singing, it should be done in a form in which the entire group can participate easily..

The tune, the rhythm, etc. should be such that all can follow the Bhajan. If the lead singer takes up a song that is not familiar to others, the response from the group will be poor. There will be no enthusiasm or genuine participation. Their minds will be distracted." Sai Baba. SS. 11/86. p.. 280

"Reciting the Lord's name is a process of 'give and take'. Singing the Lord's name should become an exercise in mutual sharing of joy and holiness.. Sai Baba, SS. 11/86. p. 281

"Community Bhajans should not be treated as a pastime. When thousands of persons join in singing Bhajans, they should be fully absorbed in the devotional process and the ecstasy of that experience." Sai Baba. SS. 11/86. p. 281

"The singing should be vibrant arid soulful and not mechanical or drawling and uninspiring. It should combine feeling (Bhavava), melody (Raaga) and rhythm (Taala) Sai Baba, SS. 11/86, p. 281

"Songs should glorify the Name rather than describe the attributes. When attributes are praised, some may develop doubts." Sai Baba. SS, 11/86, p. 281

AKHANDA BHAJAN

An Exposition by Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.

Importance Of Bhajans

"As a matter of fact, Bhajan is a constant exercise. It has to be as essential as breathing." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. VI. p. 238

"Bhajans always give joy and peace."

Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. 1, p. 190

"Wherever My devotees sing, there I install myself. So sing from the heart, conscious of the layers of meaning each word has. You can have God installed in your heart." Sai Baba

"The Name (of God) undoubtedly brings in the grace of God. Meerabai, the queen of Rajasthan, gave up her status, riches, fortune and family, and dedicated herself to the adoration of the Lord, "Giridhara Gopala". Her husband brought a chalice of poison and she was ordered to drink it. She uttered the Name of Krishna while she drank it. It was transformed into nectar by the grace the Name invoked." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. VI. p. 217

"Cast away ignorance; you are free, liberated from all bonds that very moment. All spiritual disciplines have this liberation as their goal. Nama-sankirtana (repetition of God's Names), too, helps you get rid of this basic ignorance." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X, p. 70

"Measures for the elimination of egoism: the chief among these is the Bhajan." Sai Baba. SSS, Vol. VI. p. 237

 

"Let your whole life be a Bhajan. Believe that God is everywhere at all times, and derive strength, comfort and joy by singing His Glory in His presence." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. X. p. 75

"Bhajan is a good disciplinary process by which these two (Kama and Krodha) can be kept away. Kama is the lust for physical pleasure, power, fame, wealth and scholarship. Krodha is anger, which is the result of foiled lust." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. X. p. 79

"Bhajan (devotional singing) is more important than Bhojan (food). Prayer is more important than pining for meals. Birds, beasts, insects and worms, all feed and keep fit. Man is the crown of creation, the monarch and master of all beings in creation. If he, too, seeks only food and shelter as inferior species do, it is deplorable indeed. From the moment of waking until the moment when he lays himself down again to sleep, man is engaged in endless errands, unceasing turmoil, never-ending tangles and boundless anxiety. And what does he gain therefrom? More confusion, more mental agitation." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X, p. 79

"You will relish the Bhajan as you make it a daily function, like eating and sleeping. You eat twice a day for the upkeep of the body. Should you not do Bhajan at least once for the upkeep of the mind? Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. X, p. 81

"Those who sing Bhajans get what can be called 'double promotion', for they derive joy and distribute joy. Life today is filled with sorrow. It is beset with fear and despair. The only time you can forget these thoughts and strengthen yourself to meet the hard times is when you contact the source of all strength. God. You cannot get that peace while you bend under the burden of daily life." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X. p. 81

"Whenever an idea of hurting others or taking someone's belonging or spreading falsehood about others enters your mind, turn to God for help. Ask Him to give you strength. Repeat the Name of God or hum a Bhajan. You will find that all your bad thoughts will flee, leaving you free from evil." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X, p. 154

"The hands should be lifted in prayer and words should come out full-throated. It is unfortunate that even those who are gifted with good voices do not sing aloud in Bhajans. Man has been endowed with a tongue to sing the praise of God. If he fails to do so, he remains indebted to God." Sai Baba, SS. 8/96. p. 206

"The recitation of the Names of the Lord will help to purify the atmosphere as a result of the sacred sound waves getting absorbed in the atmosphere. The power of the sound waves is evident from the way radio Waves are transmitted and received over long distances. The atmosphere that has been polluted by impure sound waves can be purified by chanting the Divine Name. Likewise, sacred thoughts, pure speech and pure actions will purify other polluted elements. There is no better purifying agent than this." Sai Baba. SS. 4/92. p. 71

Meaning Of Akhanda Bhajan

"Akhanda means uninterrupted, without any gap. "Akhanda-Bhajan" means that it should not be just a twenty-four hour, or even a seven-day affair. It must go on from birth to death. Bhajan (devotional song) has to start in childhood and continue onward. It must be constant companion of man, his solace and strength. Do not postpone it until old age, for it is the essential food for the mind." Sai Baba, SSS, Vol. 1, 125

"This day (4 December r976), you have resolved to imbibe Divine Bliss by reciting the glory of God in chorus and with music, continuously for twenty-four hours. You call it Akhanda Bhajan, even though it will end after that period. Still the idea is good and programme will yield good results.." Sai Baba. SSS, Vol. X. p. 79

"This has been named an Akhanda Bhajan, that is to say, Bhajan done without a break. But was it really an Akhanda Bhajan? It is begun at 6:30 on the evening of one day, and is closed at 6:30 on the evening of the next day. Can we call it 'unbroken Bhajan'? What is a period of 24 hours when we consider the vastness of the universe and the eternity of time? It is just a wink, a minute part of the life of man on earth. By engaging yourselves in the recitation of the Name of God for one single day, you claim to have done Bhajan 'without a break'. Akhanda Bhajan must be as continuous as breathing itself if it is to deserve its name." Sai Baba. SSS. Vol. X. p. 67

Meaning Of Global Akhanda Bhajan

"The Akhanda Bhajan that is observed by Sai devotees all over the world for full twenty-four hours in November is an annual event of global significance. Starting from 6:00 p.m. on Saturday, the Akhanda Bhajan concludes at 6:00 p.m. on Sunday. The Bhajans (spiritual songs) start with the lighting of the Akhanda Jyoti (the sacred lamp) that is kept continuously burning for 24 hours." V.K.N, SS. 12/87, p. 341

Special Significance Of Global Akhanda Bhajan

"This programme of Akhanda-Bhajan continuously done for 24 hours all round the world in all lands, has therefore spread the message of love through the Names of the Embodiment of Universal Love. It has saturated the atmosphere with thoughts of God and peace and joy that He showers. The Bhajans that you have done here (Prasanthi Nilayam) has affected not only this particular area and its environment, but it will transmute the entire atmosphere. Continue this attitude of devotion and humanity, of service and tolerance, the atmosphere will not be polluted by hatred." Sai Babu, SSS.. Vol. X, p. 75

"What is significant about the global Akhanda Bhajan is that while apparently the duration of the Bhajan is identical, the time sequence varies from country to country. For instance, when Bhagavan lit the Akhanda Jyoti in the Prasanthi Mandir at precisely 6:00 p.m. on November 14, 1987, the Akhanda Bhajans had been going on for many hours in countries east of India from Japan to Singapore. This means that as the earth revolves, lamps are lit at different Sai centres according to the local time, and by the time the westernmost centre in Vancouver lights the Akhanda Jyoti, (Sai) centres in the east would have completed the Akhanda Bhajan. Before the Bhajans are completed all round the world, there would be a girdle of Akhanda Jyotis lit around the globe in Sai centres as far as Fiji in the '"east" and Hawaii in the "west" V.K.N. SS. 12/87, p. 341

Purpose Of The Global Akhanda Bhajan

'Today we are having Akhanda Bhajans (non-stop twenty-four hour global Bhajans by Sai devotees all over the world. This is being done not for the sake of one individual, one nation, or one community. It is for the welfare of humanity as a whole. The Bhajans that are sung permeate the ether in the form of sound waves and fill the entire atmosphere, thereby, the whole environment gets purified." Sai Baba, SS, 11/86. p. 280

"Today the atmosphere is polluted by unholy and vicious sounds. This results in the growth of evil thoughts and feelings, which lead to evil deeds.. If the atmosphere has to be'purified. it has to be filled with pure and sacred sounds." Sai Baba, SS, 11/86, p. 281

"Singing with intense yearning for God and enjoying the experience of adoring Him. helps to purify the atmosphere. Man is forced to breathe the air polluted by sounds that denote violence, hatred, cruelty and wickedness.. Therefore, he is fast losing the high attainments that are in store for him. The vibrations of the Namasankirtans can cleanse the atmosphere and render it pure, calm and ennobling. It is with this high purpose in view that this programme of global Sankirtan was designed." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X, p. 67

"No man can escape the influence of the pollution of the air he breathes. The sounds that we produce, with good intent or bad, spread throughout the air around us. This is our daily experience. The sounds produced by radio stations pass through the atmosphere and reach our homes when we tune in. The vibrations travel vast distances and affect the nature of those who inhale them. The atmosphere also affects the food man consumes. The pollution in the atmosphere is imbibed by the plants. The plants supply grain, the grain is the basis of the meal and the meal shapes the character and behaviour of the person who consumes it. When the environment is clean and free from evil vibrations, the food. too, is pure. and the person develops a tendency to be loving and simple. It is to ensure such an atmosphere, this Sadhana (of Akhanda Bhajan) was initiated all over the world.." Sai Baba, SSS. Vol. X, pp. 67 & 68

"The air, even of these villages, is polluted by vulgar film songs, by demeaning and disgusting conversation. The 24-hour long Bhajan will purify it by divine vibrations, and those who breathe. The pure air will be healthier and more upright in behaviour." Sai Baba. SSS, Vol. X, p. 81

"Bhajans have a place of pride in Bhagavan Baba's scheme of spiritual Sadhana. Devotional singing in groups serves not only to concentrate the minds of the devotees on the Divine but promotes also a sense of spiritual unity and harmony among devotees." V.K.N.. SS, 12/87. p. 341

"The prayer to the Lord to light the lamp of wisdom and love in the heart of every devotee, when it goes up from millions of devotees all over the world, must have an ennobling and unifying effect which cannot be produced by any other means." V.K.N. SS, 12/87, p. 341

"The Akhanda Bhajan should make devotees feel their unity with the Divine and, at the emotional level, and fill them with love for entire mankind. Bhagavan Baba's supreme role in His present advent is to unify humanity by promoting recognition of the inherent divinity present in everyone, transcending all divisions of creed, caste, language, nationality and sex. The Akhanda Bhajan is like a beacon and trumpet-call to humanity to jettison ths pretty divisions of the past and rise to the heights of its divine destiny." V.K.N.. SS, 12/87, p. 341

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AKHANDA BHAJAN NOV. 11-12th


This year's Akhanda Bhajan will be on the weekend of November 11-12. This is a continous 24 hour devotional singing session. This event is held all over the world in all countries. We encourage all of you to take part in your center's devotional singing program.

The bhajan commences with the lighting of the sacred lamp - the Akhanda Jyothi - that is kept burning for 24 hours. Thus the sacred lamp will be lit in each country during the 24 hour period based on local time and by the time a Sai centre at Honolulu lights the Akhanda Jyothi, centres in the East would have completed their Akhanda Bhajan.

Before the Bhajans are completed the world would be a girdle of Akhanda Jyothis lit round the globe in Sai Units. The Akhanda Jyothi not only helps to concentrate the minds of devotees but promotes also a sense of spiritual unity and harmony among the devotees. The prayers will be for Peace in the world.

This is being done not for the sake of one individual, one nation, or one community. It is for the welfare of humanity as a whole. The Bhajans that are sung permeate the ether in the form of sound waves and fill the entire atmosphere, thereby, the whole environment gets purified." - Baba

Baba's miracle at Akhanda bhajan

Nine families started an Akhanda Bhajan Mandali in 1944, consisting mostly of our relations. We had bhajans every thursday evening regularly. In 1946 , we requested swami to attend our first annual Akhanda bhajan, which He did. Swami stayed with us for full 24 hours of the bhajans. We had originally planned the Bhajans for about 150 people with our limited means. As Bhagavan attended the function, over 500 people attended, including several distinguished devotees who came with swami. We had a problemas to how to give prasadam to all of them, as we had not anticipated such a situation. We represented our problem to Swami. Baba with his merciful love, came to the kitchen and blessed the food. after the functionwas over we served Pongal to over 1000 people till the evening. it never got finished.. This miracleis one of the earliest experiences in our lives, which is still green in our memory. We did this annual Akhanda Bhajan for twenty five years continuously. Once or twice Baba could not attend the function, but we took into account only the years when He attended.

Bhajans becomes global

In the year 1974, we celebrated the 25th year of our Akhanda Bhajan in the golden Jubilee Hall, Lalbagh. By then our Akhanda bhajan had become very popular and ever increasing numbers of people attended the function. Nearly 10.000 people attended the 1974 celebrations. Swami, in his concluding speech, declared that in future instead of our family conducting this akhanda bhajan, the entire world should conduct the bhajan on the same day . He materialised a Navarathamala and gave it to me as a benedictory blessing to our family.

From the book Sanathana Sarathi, page 128

from the chapter " five decades at the lotus Feet" from Dr.R.S.Padmanabhan.

Sri Sathya Sai Books and Publications Trust

Bhagavan's 70 th birthday.

In Sai love, Titia de Groot-Boelens,

Holland

If it could be proved that God did exist, we wouldn't need faith, would we? Faith is a gift from God so that one may believe without having seen.

Sai Baba ain't God.

Thank you C02000 for your on-topic posts relating to Sathya Sai Baba :-)

Edited by author 11-17-2007 04:12 AM
/m1165

"Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?"



Jhn 10:19 There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings.


 Jhn 10:20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?


 Jhn 10:21 Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?


 Jhn 10:22 ¶ And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.


 Jhn 10:23 And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch.


 Jhn 10:24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.


 Jhn 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.


 Jhn 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.


 Jhn 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:


 Jhn 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand.


 Jhn 10:29 My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand.


 Jhn 10:30 I and [my] Father are one.


 Jhn 10:31 ¶ Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.


 Jhn 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?


 Jhn 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.


 Jhn 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?


 Jhn 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;


 Jhn 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?


 Jhn 10:37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.


 Jhn 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father [is] in me, and I in him.


 Jhn 10:39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

CO 2000, aka Joe 108: The Jews did not threaten to stone "Jesus" for blasphemy. I don’t care what lies you were told. It was only the ROMANS. Try checking the AKASHIC RECORDS before spewing out more CRAP that ain't true. They're the only records I know that actually contain every bit of factual knowledge ever created, anywhere. People like you give both Jews and Christians a bad name... always trying to start a war between two spiritual groups. Bad business. Won't work.

Got another one for you, bozo bean. If you believe in the Bible quote for quote, do you actually believe the Holy Mother accepted a SEED from someone other than her Twin Flame husband? Who was that Father? Sai Baba? Duh! But I see you don’t believe Sai Baba is God either. Now do I have that correct? So who or what produced the seed? Do you remember me telling you that Sai Baba was King Herod during the time this woman called Mary was on earth? Read the Ancient Text called the Akash, please, before you talk more trash, ok please? Next question. And do try and think before you answer so rudely. Where did this seed come from? Did she get it from someone other than “her husband”? Do you think Mother Mary is a whore? Isn't that an act of "adultery" committed on the psychic plane? Some say fornicating with “the father” is blessed. What say you, ho? Other texts say Mother never birthed a son at all. Some say she produced a little baby girl. Some say she birthed both a boy and a girl. Think that's possible, weird Joe? The Jews say their "Messiah" is yet to come. Mohammed calls Jesus, Isa, and says he will return to defeat the "DECEIVER". What do you think? No wonder folks like Sanjay, even me, think you are a freak. Jesus too. :)

Now don't be shy about making an apology for '"accidentally" posting one of Carolyn's messages under my name, silly one. You get NO respect from anyone until that is done. I see it took you forever, but at last you've admitted my little friend, Carolyn, actually has her very own title--Kickbabaa’sass, a personality, a mind, even a great paying job. You have quite a way to go in admitting the rest of your errors, i.e., deceptions, you intentionally tried to fake us all out with. Now I understand why neither your mom or Mother Mary like you at all either, weird one! How are your two younger brothers?

Edited by author 11-17-2007 04:08 AM
Barbara aka Carolyn aka Amen, I am NOT Joe. Get it through your thick head.

If you can't get a simple thing like my identity right I doubt very seriously I would take your word for anything else.

Secondly, just as there are some ignorant Indians against Sai Baba, there were Jews AND Romans against Jesus. WHY would the Romans accuse Jesus of being the devil Barbara? If you could read, you would see that Jhn 10:19 clearly said there was a division among the Jews. Jesus also said, "Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the Scribes."

Besides that, the POINT of my Jesus quotes was to show that Jesus was ALSO heckled for saying he was God. "I and my Father are one."

And for the record Barbara I do not think you read the Akashic records. You cannot even act like an adult Barbara much less read the Akashic records. And NO, I don't think Mother Mary is a whore but you most certainly are about as close as one gets to being one with your filthy mind and mouth. Whoring your lies around like you think everyone is as dumb as you and cannot see you for the wacko you CLEARLY are.

Ok CO2000 Joe, have it your way. No one believes YOU anyway, lest of all me. By your response, once more you demonstrate your incomplete lack of ability to read "outside the body" at all, especially the Akash. It was never my intention to "educate" you, but rather to mock you, mocker of all good people. You wouldn't know Jesus if he sat on you, looked into your eyes and said, "Boo!" That's why everyone sane hates you.

And lest I forget. In answer to your other "question", if you can call it that--you know, the nasty one in post 1101 that said, "I took that info Directly off of the VERY reputable site, Alibris book store." That's when you were still accusing me of marrying piggery J. Walton. I'm sure you can remember your dirt, can't you?

Are you ready for my really good answer? How is the hell do you think I was able to burn so many oddles and oddles of those really fantastic books called, For the Land of the Lost, that I already had reassured you I didn't "channel". Ya see, fool, it takes someone smarter than you to figure out God's intentional plan. The addition of that good alias name, Barbara J. Dent-Walton, gave me the exclusive right to Seven Eagles Publishing, as well as those boxes and boxes of lying books. Without the inclusion of that good name, how in the hell do you think Carolyn and I would have been so thoroughly entertained by tearing them all to shreds, then burning them out under the stars, while giving thanks for our saved lives. Did that answer your question, mean fool? I quite agree with Sanjay who spoke so truthfully about you one more time. You try to "jack-off", while dreaming up some story about someone else's sex life... because you don't have one. Sorry about your IMPOTENCY, pervert.

Barbara, you are a nutcase. Get some help.

Edited by author 11-10-2006 10:20 PM
So Gerald Moreno now fully approves of Lisa De Witt's spam postings on this forum? Interesting..

Earlier Moreno was caught up in yet another malicious lie. After I found out that Connie Shaw's website had been hacked, he immediately claimed that this hacking was done by former Sai devotees, who referred to as "vicious worms". "What a fukin liar!" as Simon Brace would say! :-) (Simon Brace is Moreno's very good friend, who is an admitted alcoholic and drug abuser, confessing to growing marijuana and mushrooms in his own home)

Poor guy, so confused. And now he his being cornered on Wikipedia by several editors all disagreeing with his spurious contention of Salon.Com being a reputable source, even threatening to block him. Nice. :-)

Bhivash, quite an interesting piece of wisdom there. Thanks for that.

Jesus never claimed that he was one with his Father. Read the section properly and in context. For the record, Sai Baba also says that Jesus never claimed to have any speciality.

Mind you, Sai Baba talks a lot of crap when it comes to Jesus Christ. See what I mean?

Edited by author 11-10-2006 11:07 PM
Dadlani, you don't know squat about Jesus (other than looking at your sordid jesus porn... /m272) just like you don't know squat about Krishna.

Go play with your comic books dumbo.

Edited by author 11-11-2006 12:08 AM
/m1171


Hey, at least my posts are on topic. And anything is better than listening to you, Barbara and usedbybaba's psychotic hate drivel. The three stooges. Why don't you clowns go drivel on usedbybaba's empty board instead of whining like crybabies that you just can't get your way over here?

Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is obviously a drunken, stupid and utterly deluded fellow. This is the guy who goes around acting all moral, pious, rational and holier-than-thou but then goes around miracle-mongering, shrieking praises and kissing the feet of his dead gurus (Srila Prabhupada and Srila Gour Govinda Swami) and worshipping doll deities as God incarnate. See some examples of the effeminate, girly dolls that Sanjay squirms and goes all orgasmic about on his Garurasundara Blog: 01 -02 - 03.
 
What makes this even more ridiculous is that Sanjay Dadlani has been fully exposed for his StreetBitches Blog, his Jesus Sex Fetish, his views on Child And Teen Pornography, his self-admitted Psychological Problems, his Disturbing Views About Women, his self-admitted Drinking Problems, his Satanic Inclinations, his Shocking Confessions, his Long And Established History As A Pathological Liar, his outward Denial Of His Own Hare Krishna Guru - Srila Prabhupada, his public Lie About Meeting Aghori Vimalananda, his Homoeroticism And Gender Confusion, his Inability To Keep A Girlfriend, his Pseudo-Devotee Posturing, his He-Man Inspired God Concept, his Lies About Being A Vegetarian, his weird claim that He Was Dying, his amusing Belief That Semen Can Be Sucked Up From The Testicles, Via The Spine, To The Brain and his Suicidal And Self-Injurious Statements.

This is the Anti-Sai Whacko who judges others and acts as if he is sinless.

Sanjay, you are a clown, BLACK sheep and paraiah of the Anti-Sai movement. Your only loyal supporter here is a mentally unstable adulterer who believes that Mother Mary cusses through her. lol

• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
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• "Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
  "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

No they are not on topic and you know it. They ar enothing more than spam. This is not a group for spam/announcements of Sai events but for discussion of Sathya Sai Baba. That itslef disqualifies you because you are not here to discuss but only to abuse other people like a barking dog. If you want to spam this group with pro-Sai "announcements" then I will also spam this group with negative material. To paraphrase your pervert pal Moreno, think very carefully before you start this.

I don't know squat about Jesus or Krishna? LOL. Maybe that's why people are asking me if they can translate my writings into French, German, Hungarian and Russian, even while I was a Sai devotee? :-)

Read the Bible properly, you ignoramus. Or better yet, find a Christian affiliated with a recognised church who will agree with your perverse interpretation of Jesus' words, putting words in his mouth which he never said. Verse 25-29 clearly imply duality between Jesus and his "Father". Verse 30 should be seen in context instead of plucking it out as an example of nonduality, which is typical of perverse Advaitins and their perverse hackjobs of every scripture including the Bible.

In Verse 34, Jesus is quoting the Psalms. And what does Psalm 82.6 say?

"I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.'"

Yep, get that? "You are gods" seen in context means that you are all "sons" of the 'Most High', a perfect compatibility with Vedantic philosophy. Ah yes, and it looks like Jesus is also quoting slightly out of context because if you read the whole Psalm, it looks like God is talking to his "angels" or "demigods", so naturally God would refer to them as "gods" and his "sons". Duhhhhhhh.

This is a perfect example of the perverse "spiritual" understandings of philosophically and theologically ignorant Sai devotees, something that I have been shouting about for years even as a Sai devotee. They want to take Sai Baba's "knowledge" and convert every philosophy and twist it completely beyond recognition so that it all sounds the same according to their perverse neo-Advaitic outlook.

The only problem with this is that Advaita itself is a problematic philosophy that has been much criticised throughout history for being philosophically untenable, and the controversies are still raging today. How fitting that Sai Baba would take up a lame-duck philosophy like Advaita and champion it as the "ultimate truth"; he seems to have a nasty habit of collecting all the lame-duck things in the world and making them part of his own identity. Too bad that his followers are too ignorant and uneducated about proper Vedantic philosophy (and even about their own relgion, shame!) which is why they try to twist Jesus' words to their own nonsensical and idiotic interpretations.

Edited by author 11-11-2006 12:49 AM
Gerald, shoo away and fight with csloat. LOL. You're in serious trouble on Wikipedia for taking issue with Salon.Com as a reputable source. Now everybody is pissed off with you and nobody assumes good faith where you are concerned. Boo hoo, your wiki-reputation will soon be in tatters. :-)

Look at this blasphemous nitwit who goes around blaspheming Hinduism and deity worship as "dolls" when his own faggot guru has a temple full of the same "dolls", what to speak of the fact that as recently as 2/3 years ago a larger-than-life bronze statue of Sai Baba was installed in the Prashanti Mandir, a donation from an Italian devotee. For shame, Gerald's guru idolises idol-worship, LOL.

Gerald, go and kneel before Sai Baba and perform the lingam-worship that he loves so much, Brat Boy. And then cry yourself to sleep afterwards after you nearly go insane twice. You already support/believe in Premananda, who is a convicted rapist and murderer, but you still find some reason to defend him anyway, you child-abuse pervert sympathiser sick pervert.

Find out all about Gerald Moreno being oiled by Sathya Sai Baba, his slandering of a variety of former devotees, his own confession to being on the brink of insanity twice, his "convenient" changes from non-devotee to ex-devotee, his flip-flopping on Sai Baba's molesting of little boys, his humiliating defeat on the Guruphiliac blog, his strange fascinations with faecal waste material and anuses, his self-conception as a garden weed covered in animal excrement, his affiliation with ex-porn stars who make sick pornographic scenes of urination and simulated eating of excrement, his disturbing dreams about stalking me at night which unmasks his suppressed homosexuality: Naughty Children: Gerald 'Joe' Moreno.

Welcome to the new exposés: Gerald's homosexuality, intellectual dishonesty, copyright violations, clarifying the copyright violations, lying about the Sai Krishna picture controversy, his psychologically disturbing self-conception of being enveloped in blinding darkness, more proof of his effeminate behaviour on Wikipedia, his confessions to almost going insane twice(!), his hypocritical stance on meat-eating, pathological inability to shut up (!), having his lies about homo-eroticism exposed, his confusion about his gender, and so much more!

And that's not even counting the sexual abuse, murders, lying about concealing his IP, exposed for faking emails to former devotees, having his "FAQ" blown apart (this guy thinks he is SO important that he has an FAQ!), his sound thrashing from the JuST group, and last but NOT least, the COMPLETE EXPOSURE of his shameless paedophile accusations against a respectable former devotee.

Does it end there? Certainly not! There is TONS more that you don't know about this puppet of Sai Baba's that is waiting to be revealed. So don't play these stupid games with me, puppet boy, as I am not even interested in talking to you. You are, right now, the stupidest person in the entire universe. Everyone on Wikipedia certainly thinks so. Wait till they find out how you were called a "f*****g wackjob", and no wonder.

GERALD MORENO DECEPTION, /m269, /m1105

And your only loyal supporter here is a mentally unstable schizophrenic who claims to have regular visions/visitations from Jesus Christ and several different angels, what to speak of being able to hear their voices. LOL. And that's when she's not abusing everyone in her line of sight with false accusations and gross abuse. And don't forget your other loyal supporter (Simon Brace), the self-confessed alcoholic who posts and swears like a dock-worker while drunk, what to speak of his sordid confessions to drug-running from his own home. You are a sick pervert with your sick friends and nobody cares for your babble. You are officially a clown being laughed at by the whole of the Internet. So keep babbling. Premananda-rape-worshipper, Sai Baba-rape-worshipper. :-)

And since Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is SO sensitive to "lies", let me set the record straight about his pathetic and amusing lie that he was the one who discovered my real name and my personal geocities site before anyone else.

On Post: /m1042 Sanjay said:

"And before Moreno comes back with some asinine remark about how everyone knows his full (real) name, let me be the one to reveal that I was the first person to discover his identity online. Back in the early days when he had the 'vishvarupa' domain, he was still passing himself off as 'Joe' to all of us without divulging his identity. I did some digging around and I found his personal website on Geocities where his full name and details were there, and I passed this info along to everyone else. Get that, Handbag? I discovered your website before anybody else and I found out your real name too. It's no wonder you started using your full name immediately afterwards, lol."

The very first public mention to my site occurred on October 2nd 2004 when I wrote my first email to Rober Priddy: See For Yourself. A judgmental nut with the name "Randi Godager" emailed me on the same day (October 2nd 2004) and requested my full name (apparently not caring to read anything I said on my webpage because my full name was there). I told Randi Godager that my full name was "Gerald Joe Moreno" and that my full name was clearly located on the bottom of my webpage: See For Yourself. Therefore, when I first created my webpages, I divulged my full name on the bottom of all the webpages I created. Sanjay is a filthy and pathetic braggart who lied when he said he was the one who "discovered my identity online". He most certainly did not. In 2004 (as well as to this day) I respond to all emails using the name "Joe". My full identity was divulged at the inception of my webpages dealing with the Sai Controversy and Sanjay had nothing to do with it.

Secondly, my geocities site does not divulge my "full name and details". So when Sangay boasted that he found my "full name and details" on my geocities site, he is obviously in a drunken and confused haze.

As a matter of fact, when I first communicated with C02000 (Lisa), I never told her about my geocities site but she found it the day after we talked. My geocities site has never been hidden and no attempt was ever made to conceal it from anyone. Sanjay's finding my site is no great accomplishment as anyone with remedial google-searching skills can find it.

So get your ever-so-inaccurate statements straightened out, Sanajay.

If Sanjay wants to be honest, he should come out with his real full name, full address, full phone number and contact details. To date, Sanjay has never divulged this information, yet hypocritically points his pudgy fingers at me and whines and babbles about my identity.

• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
  "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

Sanjay (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED"), you are such a hilarious hypocrite! For your information, I am not the only one "blaspheming" your Hindu Religion. Both Robert Priddy and Barry Pittard gave you a fat lip and a black eye when they said (about the Ramayana, which millions of Hindu's believe in):

"Nor can any intelligent person make good or relevant sense of it in the modern world – it is just a fantastic, impossible concocted story of the 'Superman' kind – with 'monkey-man' Hanuman lifting and flying aloft with a whole mountain (so Rama could pick out a herb from it!) or jumping across the sea to Sri Lanka. Come on, how can one be so backward intellectually? This may be o.k. for ignorant peasants, but the thinking world must regard it as sheer delusion!" (Reference)

Did you get that Sanjay?

*"...it is just a fantastic, impossible concocted story of the 'Superman' kind..."
*"Come on, how can one be so backward intellectually?"
*"This may be o.k. for ignorant peasants, but the thinking world must regard it as sheer delusion!"

Priddy also thoroughly bashed the Srimad Bhagavatam when he bashed belief in black magic and witches. The Srimad Bhagavatam promotes belief in black magic, witches, goblins, demons, vampires, diseasing demons and the like: See For Yourself.

Funny enough, Sanjay defends Priddy and Pittard although they "blaspheme" his amusing religious beliefs. Go play with you dolls and cartoon magazines Sanjay :-)

• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
  "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

"Oh too funny", now Gerald Moreno thinks I am not behing honest about my "real name" and "contact details" when he keeps referencing my name all over his trashpages. LOL, can this lunatic get even loonier? Now he is unsure of his own information? ROFLOL. :-)

The point is that I found his personal website and found out his name during a period when he was passing off as an anonymous "Joe", literally. This is the hypocrite who castigates 'usebybaba' and others as "anonymous faceless hypocrites" when he still hides behind the name "Joe" to this day! (As anyone who is unfortunate enough to receive an email from him will find out.

Fact is, nobody among the Expose knew your full name until I found out. Doesn't matter about "remedial Google search skills", the fact is thet your name got revealed thanks to me. Deal with it, anonymous Premananda-rape freak.

/m1180

"Oh too funny", now Gerald Moreno is shamelessly twisting B Pittard's and R. Priddy's comments completely out of context, when they were meant to name and shame the ridiculous beliefs of G. Venkataraman, former Vice-Chancellor of Sai Baba's educational institutions and current defence watchdog.

For the record, I know exactly Priddy's and Pittard's views on the matter and I completely understand. It doesn't make any difference to me because I'm not the one trying to defend Sai Baba of child-raping homosexual paedophilia and murder by referring to "scriptural fables", LOL.

Want to talk about hypocrisy? Talk to Sai Baba. He is the one who is constantly talking about Rama, Krishna, devils, angels, dmons, ghosts, spirits, poltergeists and all sorts of paranormal garbage in his discourses, what to speak of the fact that he used to excorcise demons in his youth. LOL. And as for Gerald's blasphemy of Hinduism, he follows/worships/supports/advocates a Hindu guru who believes in all of the things that he doesn't, and even has several buildings full of "dolls". Very recently he had a larger-than-life bronze "doll" of himself installe din the Prashanti Mandir.

Go and sit at the feet of Sai Baba, Joe Blow, and worship his lingam you sick child pervert rapist supporter. Pittard and Priddy said nothing compared to the grossly offensive things you have said in the past. Go and sort your sick head out before a wave of Hindu anger is unleashed on you when Sai devotees find out exactly where you stand on Sai Baba of all people. :-)

No wonder no one in the media spoke to you, they can recognise a crackpot when they see one. :-)

Regarding my previous post, this is yet another like of Joeblow Moreno's. He is stupidly claiming that the recent Guardian article is the result of a six-month collaboration with anti-Sais when this is a total and absurd lie.

I even blogged about it: Moreno's Guardian Lies And Speculations. Even after it has been proven that my remarks of April referred to my posting just a few days later, the intellectually-dishonest lying swine is still claiming (without any proof whatsoever) that his speculations are correct.

So shall it be. Let's see. :-)

Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba Exposed"), as I said before, you a pathetic liar. You can't even reference your claims with any factual data. You tongue-lash everything and hope to deceive others with your garrulous rantings. I am not deceived by the type of low-class trash that you are. And neither is your Black God, Lord Krishna. Capiche?

And when you were on your drunken rants about The Guardian article, YOU were the one who said (and even included the link):

"Want to talk about blindness? I warned you fools about this months ago, but you're way too thick to pick up the hints. I even warned you months in advance about the BBC movie, and you were too thick to pick up the hints about that too. Nothing has changed even two years later. :-)"

If the Anti-Sai collaboration is a "total and absurd lie", then you are to blame. Not I. After all, you were the one who claimed you "warned" us about The Guardian article and cited, as proof, your yahoo post going back to April 2006. Once again trying to twist the truth I see. You only fooling fools.

Sanjay, but you do defend your belief that Lord Krishna literally manifested 16,000 human forms, married 16,000 women and copulated with them generating innumerable offspring? Right? Or is that a "fable" as well? And let us not even go to what appears to be Lord Krishna's wholly inappropriate interactions with married and young women. I bet you have a bunch of spiritual explanations to defend Lord Krishna? Don't you?

You are a clown, a black sheep and a pariah even among your Anti-Sai Clan. They bash your beliefs and bashed you in the process as one those "backward intellectually" "ignorant peasants" who believes in "impossible concocted stories of the 'Superman' kind".

I couldn't have said it better :-)

• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
  "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

Edited by author 11-17-2007 04:19 AM
Hey, Sinjay, I hate to tell you this but my posts are much more on topic than your screaming, hissy girly fits you throw so frequently.

In case you are dyslexic, the topic is, "Sathya Sai Baba, who is he?"

The topic is NOT, "What do three anti-Sai hatemongers think about Sai Baba?"


In order for people to know WHO he is they need to know what he teaches. Capische, dumbloon (as you would say)?

Listening to you hatemongers drivel your psychotic diatribes in the form of "spam" does absolutely NOTHING to help people understand who Sai Baba is. All it does is show people there are SEVERAL certifiable nutcases like you babbling about Sai Baba.

And I think Jesus did, and DOES, QUITE well speaking for himself, he doesn't need a pervert like you (WHO HAS A JESUS PORN SEX FETISH /m272) explaining what he meant. It's disgusting hearing you talk about Jesus after you were drooling over his pictures in a VERY blasphemous way.
Have you no SHAME you fool? And I certainly don't need a wannabe Hare Krishna misogynist like you doing my thinking for me. God only knows what you've done to poor Krishna's pictures! I have NO desire to take an abberrant, disgusting creature like you on as my guru so just get over yourself. You couldn't find your brain cells if they were glued to your head.

Read it again dumbloon:

Jhn 10:30 I and [my] Father are one.


 Jhn 10:31 ¶ Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.


 Jhn 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?


 Jhn 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.


 Jhn 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?


 Jhn 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;



Better be careful Sinjay, the Christians might stone you for defiling Jesus' pictures.

Edited by author 11-11-2006 03:12 AM
/m1179

Sinjay, you are a blatant LIAR. Joe's name has been fully visible on his site since it came online. It never ceases to amaze me the extent you will go to lie to try to make a name for your slimey self.

Really, no one can trust anything you say you are such a dysfunctional pathological liar.

And look, you are doing such a great job attracting your cousins who are just like you!

I should just start calling you Sir Lie-a-lot. It fits you so perfectly.

Usedbybaba: Have you received any further information on the Bharwani brothers? I have. I am also told by reliable sources that all three of those boys were molested, but only the middle one, Sunil Bharwani, is the one you can trust completely to tell the truth always. It would be good to have a conversation completely alone with him, if it can be arranged. You can depend on him for the truth, I am told. Sometimes people shift their stories when really afraid, other family members are frightened. The reasons are many, but mostly because they are too afraid of talking. Perhaps they tell you one thing and another person something else because Sai Baba devotees may be present during the discussion. If I were you, I would get together with Sanjay Dadlani for further discussion. Try to help each other get to the bottom of it. I will help as well. I trust you and Sanjay both completely, and I know unequivocally that neither of you are liars. You both probably heard different stories for different reasons, but not to deceive the public. You both could even use my personal email to communicate back and forth, if you wish, as I know you don’t want egomaniac Joe in the picture. Meaning, I could copy your emails to me and forward them to you, if you don’t want to use either of the forums that are currently being used. I love you both. You are my dearest friends. I treasure your friendships. I know you never lie. I will post my personal email once again, for I fear nothing from this one disgusting lone dog called Joe Moreno. He may think he fools others into believing there is more than one person yapping his crap, but I assure you no matter how many times he changes his ugly name, he is still hated for the filth he tries to instill into all of our already confirmed minds. We are joined and he cannot separate us ever. We go way back in time together… fighting against evil wars everywhere. I too have always worked for God always. Once again, my personal email address is: iseejesu@yahoo.com. If Joe tries to use it, I will have him arrested. Believe me, they are already on to him as well. I’ve been doing plenty of checking and reporting on him too, and he surely is an evil Sai devotee. One more whopping lie from evil Joe.

Edited by author 11-11-2006 07:30 PM
I think it's funny that Barbara is trying to act like some great researcher or something. This garbage has been up since Hari Sampath claims he went to the Supreme Court and nothing has come of it.

You are living in lala land Barbara. If there were as many abuse victims as you people claim, they could easily band together to tell the police and would do so, so how come they haven't? The only rabble rousers are you suspicious weirdos.

I'm going to start posting comments from students who say they know some of these people.

Edited by author 11-11-2006 05:55 PM



Why didn't van der Sandt post this info on the english-speaking exbaba.com?

 

Uitslag enquete Sai Baba scholen

 

25 maart 2001


Dear Student,

I am the webmaster of a Dutch site, that explores the activities of Sai Baba.

You are receiving this email, because I am deeply concerned about the complaints against Baba, I have heard, that Sai Baba, your Avatar, is sexually molesting students and other male devotees, is this true?

Would you be honest in telling me whether this really happens or not?

I understand that you might have trouble in telling me, because I am aware that these things cannot be written so easily, especially when you are (or were) a student in Prasanthi Nilayam.

There are a few questions I’d like to ask, maybe you have heard them spread by other people too, and they made you shiver, but please, I am very serious, I don’t have a sick mind in asking you this:

1. Did you ever have an Interview with Baba?

2. Did he put his arms around you, just as lovers use to do?

3. Was there some kissing between you and Baba during this Interview?

4. Did Baba ever rub oil into your genitals?

5. Was there any kind of masturbation, and did you let him do this to you?

6. Did you gratify him orally?

7. Did you like what you were doing?

8. Was he gratifying you?

9. Did you like what he was doing, or not? Or did you think:

10. That it was necessary to let him do this to you, claiming that it helped to release your sexual tension, or that it helped to give you some ‘Spiritual Cleaning’?

11. Did Baba say not to mention anything to anyone about what had happened?

12. Do you have friends who may have had these experiences?

13. Have you ever heard of anyone, who has had such kind of treatment?

I should like to explain my modest point of view on these activities; even the slightest worse, putting his arms around you, or the kissing, is, in my opinion, not right, not even in India, not even done by Sai Baba in India. I can image that, in case of any disease, a doctor should investigate your genitals, but I think, all other cases in which this happens, are not ok.

Sexual activities like these, could be normal between lovers, these things may happen, but not when you are consulting Baba, in an so called Interview, where personal problems should be treated with, in your case, some extrasensory perception or some other form of New Age psychotherapy.

Let me play things open and explain what I am doing:

I have found four Baba schools on www.alumni.net, I am investigating two of them:

1. Sri Sathya Sai Higher Secondary School (21 addresses)

2. Sri Sathya Sai Institute Of Higher Learning (185 addresses, there are a few more, but the letter ’O’ on www.alumni.net didn’t work )

I have sent and email to all students, I received 22 answers, they were all very positive about Baba and his teachings and the general atmosphere in the Ashram, they are all convinced that there is no such thing as sexual abuse, my email bounced 4 times, that means that I couldn’t reach four persons, so 184 students didn’t answer.

I hope that you will decide to e-mail about it. In that regard I want to let you know that, if necessary, help is being offered to you. I know some people, one of them is a school psychologist, that are willing to write, phone, or e-mail with you to help in painful situations.

Don’t be afraid, I won’t take advantage of your story, your email will be handled very discrete, and besides that, your name won’t ever be published, it is just that I’m trying to help, and to remind you, that all people in Holland are deeply concerned about your situation in the Ashram of Sai Baba in India.

Very, very nice greetings,

A Friend

XXX


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Hi!

I'm sorry but all this information is false and so there is no evidence to give. I don't know why you believe all this crap. You people have no shame. I'm an ex-student and so is my brother and we have gone through nothing rubbish by Swami. Please stop all this non-sense talk.

Student


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Hi,

All the allegations against Sri Sathya Sai Baba are baseless and are false. I was a student of Sri Sathya Sai Higher Secondary School. I know almost all the students in the School and the Institute as all of us lived in the same hostel. With the interaction I had with Baba and all the students, I can say with confidence that no such thing as sexual molestation happens in Prasanthi Nilayam. All this is pure blasphemy intended to defame Baba, the divine.

Thanks,

M.


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It's NOT true. I studied there for 7 years and there is no such thing. I have 2 masters degrees from SSSIHL for which I paid nothing in the form of tuition fee or any other fee. I am a better man it's all because of the teaching of Sai Baba and my teachers at the university.
As a webmaster you should be able to understand the kind of facilities we had at our computer science lab and compare them with other universities. We had (in 1997) a DEC Alpha server and 3 Alpha work stations for just 9 students of our class. Each of these servers can support hundreds of users. Most of the professors we have are from IITs(India's premier technical institutes) and a few from well known universities in USA (Cornell etc.)

Regards,

N.

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Dear fellow devotee,

This is really absurd. I do not know where you are getting this information from. Rumors always exist. In all cases these were started by some jealous people. I have studied at Prasanthi Nilayam from 1979-1984. There are always some students who spread these rumors to cover up their bad behavior. For example, a student whom I know quite well (he was in my class) was caught smoking in the college. The warden kicked him out of the college for smoking. When he left the college he started some silly rumor.

So my honest opinion is just ignore.

R.


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Sairam XXX

Any way I appreciate that u asked frankly. I am one of the fortunate to know about saibaba what media is writing is just junk.there is nothing wrong happening in ashram. See few people when they do not get what they want they can go to any extent. why go so far take a couple who loved for years got married when they get divorce they say he/she is not good but till other day she/he was everything. just the media is creating hype which is junk. Swami (saibaba) takes care of everyone so well even my parents would have not
taken care of me that well. If at all u are true to your profession go head and publish what I am telling see in this world people know only to speak bad about others they do not want good. when Jesus was on earth people crucified him but today there are billions of followers let us not make the same mistake. This mail is not structured what came to my mind I wrote it. Feel free if you want to know more.
 
with regards
and love

G.


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Dear friend,

I was a student of Prasanthi Nilayam and I came out from there with an education not only in my field of specialization but also as a much better human being than I was before. I value what I obtained there and that is enough for me. I do not think I would be making an overstatement if I state these are the feelings echoing from the heart of every student who has come out of there.

Please be kind enough and refrain from sending me any more e-mails of this sort. Kindly also remove me from your mailing list.

A student


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Dear Mr. XXX

I am glad you have sent me this mail.This indicates that you are seriously interested in knowing about Swami and not frivolous in believing hearsay's/rumors.
I have been in Prasanthi Nilayam for 7 years and know for sure that there were no such cases of molestations.
In fact,we felt more comfortable at Puttaparthi than any where else for the warm feeling of love and togetherness which only true family/friends can provide.

Regards

V.

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Please,

This is not new to me. I have heard these stupid and dirty things before. The people who spread these things are mentally sick. May Baba shower his grace on them so that they can get rid of the sick mentality.

I have stayed in the ashram for three years. I had the chance to witness several miracles of Baba. He has cured many people. And rests assure that you are also having a very sick mentality. You are doing a great harm to yourself by sending this email around to each and every student on the list. Talking such things and spreading these words around is a big sin. As Baba says "No one can get rid of his or her Karma". You should stop sending emails immediately. There is no truth in such stories. Some sick person says this and another sick person like you trusts this and thus spreads this disease around. If you have time and energy please utilize this in spreading good thins around. Email stories which praise the almighty.

Certainly their are people around who speak like this about your religion. Wise ignore all this. Don't do all this. I am telling you this for your own benefit.

Sai Ram

S.


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Dear sir.

Thank you for writing to us and clarifying things rather than keeping doubts within you.
I am a person who has known Swami since I was in my first grade that is past at least 19 years.
I have studied in his Institute for about 7 years and in the time that I have spent there I can only say that such messages are but rumors and could be the act of people who are more concerned about the spirituality of others than their own.
Believe me, to us, Swami(as we lovingly call him) is more like a mother father brother sister teacher friend all put together and there is no one, no one, I tell you, in this world who can reciprocate your love in such a way.
We have heard of lots of Gods and saints come by and gone but Sai Baba is a living example.
I am not a fanatic. I am not insisting people to pray to him or follow him but just think a person who has

1. build institutions throughout the country (with three main universities at Bangalore and Andhra Pradesh) offering FREE education

2. build two BIG Super Specialty hospitals at Puttaparthi and Bangalore

3. done a major Water Project providing clean drinking water to lakes of people

4. whose guidance has made highly qualified people like Doctors engineers to
offer their services free

5. who has made people think about their duty towards society and made people in the Sri Sathya Sai Seva organization one of the biggest Non Government
Organizations to be performing yeoman service to people through out the world.

All this and many more and the reason behind this is only one single person: Sai Baba.
Do you think such feats can be done by people who do not have control over themselves ?
To convince others first one must convince oneself and believe me Sai Baba's conviction is like a mountain.

Rumors came and went by for even Jesus but his glory still remains.

If you need to swim, you need to first get into the water.
In spirituality you first experience and then develop faith. Only in science you first observe for evidence and make the laws.

You need not believe in Sai Baba's divinity but can at least get inspired to help someone out of your earning daily?

So friend please do not have such doubts. I am seeing some more of my friends to write to you so that you can rest at peace.

Thank you
May God bless you
Love

K.

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Hi,

Good morning! As I don't have enough time to answer all your questions, let me tell you this: "You ARE completely mistaken to get such negative ideas about the Ashram and more over about Sai Baba. I consider that the Ashram is the best place on the Earth and I did not face any situation or event which could even get me a remote doubt about the sanctity of the place and people there.

I have read your mail and your logic makes no sense to me. I am writing about your logic that went on like

"I have sent 90 emails, it is just possible for me to send ten emails a day from www.alumni.net, there are still 116 addresses to go, until now I received 8 answers from students, they were all very positive about Baba and his teachings and the general atmosphere in the Ashram, they are all convinced that there is no such thing as sexual abuse, so 82 students didn't answer, let us say that 60 persons are not interested - this is just a loose estimate -, so that leaves us to 22 individuals, that hesitate to respond
because of an other reason, and yes, I have to be honest, my email bounced 4 times, so that leaves me to 18 persons that should have another reason for not responding my email."

First of all, all the students coming out of the SSSIHL are very well placed all over the busy world. Just because someone does not respond to your query, it gives no proof/disproof to any of your suppositions. For example, if I send some mail about some stupid stuff to all the presidents and/or
prime ministers of all the countries, and do a survey like you are doing now, based on their not responding I can prove or disprove anything and everything in this world.

My point is that you must first know the basics of conducting a survey or poll. No logic in this great world accepts the "NO RESPONSE" as response "NO". There is lot of difference between these two. I think you and your organization will be better off if you take some time to think about what I
wrote. I am not interested in hurting anyone. I don't need to prove/disprove anything to anyone. I am not doing that either. I care for you as a fellow being on this beautiful creation of GOD. Be happy and don't waste your precious time. If you still want to spend time in this poll, do it in the right manner.

I request you that you please do not send me an email regarding any of your future polls like this, because I may not respond in which case you may get a chance to mis-interpret my "No response".

Thanks for patient reading.
Have a great day

A.


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Dear sir or who ever u are,

I appreciate ur attempt to explore the activities of Bhagawan Sri Satya Sai baba.
But May I know with what capacity are u doing this, did someone personally complain to u.

I have the student of the ashram for a very longtime and know the place and people very well. I have acquired my knowledge and meaning for life only in the ashram.
For me there is nobody more than Bhagawan and praying to him is the least I can do everyday to remember him.

Prasanthi Nilayam is abode of peace both for students and devotees. I think since you are getting such spiral misleading ideas it is better you visit the place and get some peace of mind. Only Bhagawan can help u in attaining peace of mind.

Dear sir, I have had lots of interviews with Baba and many a times a long chat but never had anything of such which u have mentioned happened to me. My sincere suggestion is before u start doing this exploration u better visit the place and have blessings of Baghawan and you might feel that the
entire exercise you are doing is a futile one.
I pray to Bhagawan to help you in taking right path in this short period of what you called life.

Sai ram


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Dear Sir

Sai Baba is god ...... All that has been projected, are all false allegations, do not consider them, only place in the world which is pure, serene, is Prasanthi Nilayam ......

greetings

Best Regards

S.


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Dear friend,

I was a student at Sathya Sai Institute at Prasanthi Nilayam and have had interviews with Baba and have friends who were very close to baba.To me Sai Baba is god incarnate on earth and I have not felt or heard from any real sources the allegations that are being wired over the net as well as the allegations raised in your email.
Even I was disturbed deeply with the allegations on the net and did my own enquiry.I even contacted some of the students whose name had appeared in the net. Nothing of this has ever happened according to my enquiry.Some of the stories are circulated falsely under the name of some students who were close to Baba and these students have no clue of the news. I can give you names if you need.Some of the news circulated in the net is totally false and I know it because I was there at the time period mentioned and no such thing had ever happened.
Do not be carried away by these wild allegations. Sai Baba is god incarnate on earth and I have had personnel first hand experience of his Godhead.
If u have any more questions feel free to ask.
Love and SaiRams

M.


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Hi XXX

By way of introduction , let me say I am K.
and a student of mathematics. This intro is to help that I have a very curious mind and a very logical and scientific thought process.

Just to put things in a different perspective, I would like to quote Benjamin Disraeli who said, there are 3 kinds of lies

" LIES , DAMNED LIES and STATISTICS"

So , I would suggest that your thought that your rationale of following the number of people who have not responded to your mail , is not conclusive as proof in itself that ur statements are true.
Do you have any qualitative proof on this topic?

Secondly , in this fast moving world , god knows how many people have dismissed your mail as yet another junk mail from a jobless , faceless guy that they do not know. God knows how many people even read it in the first place.
 
Sorry to say that your theory does not hold water.

Waiting for your rebuttal

Sincerely

K.


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Dear Mr. XXX

First of all, I should commend you as an individual for having come out in the open with your doubts. That, I think, is an indicator of your willingness to form an opinion based on your findings rather than on hearsay.

Coming to your doubts, I would like to make one thing clear - Sai Baba, or Swami as we call him, is an Avatar. By definition, an Avatar is a highly-evolved being and will not, repeat, will not indulge in such a profane thing as sexual molestation. Why, any average human being will not indulge in such acts. What to speak of an Avatar! I speak this with the knowledge that I have gained from close interaction with Swami.

I can understand your doubts - they are caused by a number of reports that have started coming now, on the Net, and elsewhere. I consider this to be a test of your faith in Him. In case you have any doubts regarding Baba's character, then, as a webmaster you have the added responsibility of finding out the truth for yourself. If you approach Swami with an open mind, you will find that such rumors are totally baseless because He is the very embodiment of Divinity.

I would recommend a visit to Puttaparthi to see things with your own eyes. I would be more than willing to help you in this regard.

The joy He gives to people living thousands of miles away - even in countries like the embattled Croatia - is just incredible. If He is not Divinity, I ask you, who or what is?

Regards,

M.


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What is ur intent? I have been a swami's student for the last 7 years. Do tell me ur understanding of how a "God man" should be.

tell me

S.


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Hello Mr. Sick XXX

My words can not change you or help you get out of the ugly and junk pot you are trying to stick your mind in.

I strongly recommend that you visit Baba once and I am sure Swami will put your sick mind at ease.

Without proper information, you have no right to stand on an intelligent pedestal and attempt to pose such stupid & outrightly junk questions at us.

Baba doesn't need my vocal response to defend Him : He knows our hearts and we know His. You do not even deserve an answer or a response from any of us to your despicable emails.

But though I dont believe I can alter your filthy mind, I hope you stop sending these emails to my brothers and sisters. If you have the slightest guts and have even the slightest intelligence, go to Puttaparthi and give urself a week to get a true experience of the Divinity.

Help yourself, Even if Baba forgives you, I can not !

B.


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Thanks for ur concern, there's nothing the way u r thinking is happening at Puttaparthi, so please dont bother anymore and next time before you begin your investigation from your office or your drawing room at your residence u better go to the place and start looking at what you want to find, you would get all your answers rather than trying to make your own stories or presumptions.That would help you a lot, I believe, and for Gods sake please stop bothering us about it and mind your own business.

your

well wisher.


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Hello Mr. XXX

I am the recipient of the mail you have sent from Alumni.Net.

There is something I would like to know from you. If there is no problem can you tell me the name of the website you are webmaster of.

Have you ever visited India and in particular Prasanthi Nilayam. Have you had the opportunity of observing how Baba conducts himself.

If so I would like to ask you do you believe in what you have written in this letter. and if you are so concerned and want to do good for others my advise would be that you make a visit and see for yourself. Even earlier there was mention of these kind of things by some people I think in some of
the magazines in India itself but I feel all this is done to gain some publicity. In my opinion you should go and see the place for yourself and then go about asking questions.

To answer your questions:

1. Yes I did have an opportunity to have an interview with Baba, but nothing like what you have mentioned has been observed or experienced by me.
2. Yes he does put his arm around you but only to pat you on the back or shoulder not for any other reason.

Hope this clarifies your doubts.

J.


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Dear Friend.

Though I was a student I never had any interviews with Baba which eliminates all the questions you asked. But it certainly brought many facts of life to think about. But, I will not hesitate to say that my life is better now than it would have been.

Happy questing.

Another friend.


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Hello XXX,

I never heard of such things happening! And, I just ignore what ever propaganda that's going on against Swami.
I have enjoyed my stay as a student in Prasanthi Nilayam. I cherish those few years of my life very much.
Even as old student I make regular visits to Prasanthi Nilayam to have His darshan. Many people told me that they were against Baba and they don't believe Him, and some try to get into argument with me (which is never invited by me)...
My only answer to all those people is, "I did not ask you to believe Him.. I appreciate if you let me live in my beliefs."
I try to improve myself by practicing (in what ever little way I can) Swami's teachings.

If you are not a believer/follower/devotee (what ever it is..) of Swami, please do not send any thing against Him to me.

I get hurt.

If you are a devotee of Swami, please never bother the crab that's going on against Him.

With Best Regards,

S.


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Dear Friend,

Sairam!

Well, to really know Sai Baba one has to see , feel and experience Him personally. One cannot... never know Who He really is....He is Beyond our Mind... So I suggest that You should make a visit to India and see.. meet Him. I think then your doubts and queries will be answered.

I think nobody Will ever be able to clear your doubt Except Sai Baba.....

Thank you.

Sincerely yours,

V.

Edited by author 11-11-2006 06:20 PM
/m1187
"Meaning, I could copy your emails to me and forward them to you, if you don’t want to use either of the forums that are currently being used. I love you both. You are my dearest friends."
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i'm confused.

/m1189

hmm ,that's interesting.I've never seen this.

Edited by author 11-11-2006 10:26 PM
/m1191

That's because Reinier van der Sandt only posted it on the Dutch site where he knew few people spoke english and would not even understand its import.

And doesn't Reinier sound like he is just a little TOO interested in the details?

Edited by author 11-11-2006 07:24 PM

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Date: Wednesday
12:22
17.05.2006
AJ
    
 
 
Dear Mr. Moreno, thank you and God bless for the wonderful work you are doing with the website.

I was a student in Swami's school for many years, and I wanted to corroborate something that an earlier guestbook author named Srinivas wrote:

I saw the list of approx. 155 ex-students a few months ago, and was shocked to see that I recognized a great majority of those names, as they are contemporaries from my time at Swami's school, and I still keep in close touch with many of them.

Needless to say, everyone I spoke with was shocked to hear about the website, and had no idea of its existence. They all vehemently denied any involvement with the site or its authors, and were enraged beyond words. In the end, they decided to follow Swami's example and not react. Our guess is that ex-baba found those names on some database of student names and without bothering about the truth, just listed them on the site.

This is yet another example of how the Anti-Sai hate group engages in outright deception with a complete and utter disregard for truth, and is so willing to engage in libel and slander and harm people's lives.

All we can do is pray that Swami have mercy on their souls, because they're in for many, many lifetimes of suffering. Let us not waste our righteous anger on them, but show them compassion and forgiveness.

/m1184

Leave it to Liar Moreno to twist and deceive everybody just as he has been doing for so long on Wikipedia. To drill it into his drunken head, let me state again that my comments of April referred to my blog posting just a few days later. Hence my comment, "details to follow", where I specifically told the details of the upcoming trip. The fact that I "warned" you clowns about this months ago is simply a rhetorical remark. Furthermore, nobody passed this information to Paul Lewis, he found it all by himself just like I did back in April. Duh. If Moreno wants to act like ahot-shot researcher, I personally challenge him to get a statement from Paul Lewis that he has been "in contact" with former devotees for six months. I personally guarantee that he will fail. :-)

So leave it him to lie, twist, cheat and deceive just as he usually does. His name is mud all over the Internet, and all over Wikipedia, lol.

Hey Handbag, your faggot guru agrees with me that Krishna married 16,108 women, so get that into your thick drunken head and go and argue with the same fool who institutes everything that you hate. LOL.

/m1185

"In case you are dyslexic, the topic is, "Sathya Sai Baba, who is he?" The topic is NOT, "What do three anti-Sai hatemongers think about Sai Baba?"

Look at Lisa De Witt's cheek, telling me to be "on topic" when it suits her after her entire history on this board (as even now) is to abuse former devotees. Gee, how on-topic she is, maybe that's why she's continuing to spam this board with letters and asking questions to the Exbaba.Com webmaster when she could email him? LOL, such sneering hypocrisy.

"It's disgusting hearing you talk about Jesus after you were drooling over his pictures in a VERY blasphemous way."
What were you saying about being on-topic just a second ago, Lisa? :-)

And as for your spurious claim, where is the proof? I have been asking you since 2004; where is the proof that I sent/received these pictures? I have repeatedly denied having such pictures and I have never seen such pictures, yet you still stupidly claim this wout any sort of proof to backup your words. Speaking of which, you also accused me of sending/receiving child porn and you were not able to prove that either.

Where is the proof?

You haven't got any. So I suggest you shut your drunken mouth before you end up in a jail cell (as you so often love to say).

"Read it again dumbloon:

 Jhn 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?


 Jhn 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.


 Jhn 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?"
Read it again yourself, dumbloon. I've already quoted Pslam 82 to give the correct context of Jesus' words; he was not saying that "you are all gods" as per Advaita, but just affirming the presence of divinity (by agency of the soul) in everyone, which is a fundamental tenet of most religions anyway. Nothing special. Duh. Keep on twisting Jesus' words, and let's see what happens when the Christians come after you , LOL. Ted Haggard's followers need a new scapegoat to hate, perhaps I should suggest your name, you drugged-out Fundo Christian moron? :-)

How hypocritical of Gerald Moreno to claim a right-wing Christian campaign against Sai Baba (impying that he has a problem with Christianity and religion as a whole) when he himself openly embraces and encourages an abusive schizophrenic Bible-basher in his own arms, hoping to be a recipient of the same visions of Jesus and angels that she gets, lol!

Talking to these pro-Sai faggot-worshippers is the same everywhere. First it started with Sarfaraz Shamsi, then Lisa De Witt, now Gerald Moreno arrived just five minutes ago to take up the banner. The Three Psychopaths, lol. Trying to make them understand is like bashing your head against a brick wall, why bother?

Any normal person forgets more about God in five minutes than these morons will learn in ten lifetimes. Boo hoo.

re /m1189

C02000, now we know where the list of 155 alleged sexual abuse students came from! Thank You! This would also explain how Anti-Sai's got the names to instructors. It's all on there. Apparently, Reinier paid for access to email the students. Although one can get their names, one cannot email without paying for it.

ExSaiStudent posted the list of student's names on September 7th 2001 (Reference. This list of names was first published on "saipages.com" on their guestbook on September 5th 2001 (Reference). Reinier said he emailed these students on March 2001. Apparently, "ExSaiStudent" read this Dutch article and then lifted the names from alumni.net and posted them on these boards.

One may argue that Reinier's list had 206 names whereas ExSaiStudent's contained 155. Problem solved. When I accessed the current list for Baba's schools, some of the names are repeated 2-3 times each. Removing the redundant names would reduce the numbers.

So much information, I know an article and a blog is forthcoming. More Anti-Sai deception exposed.

• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
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• "Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
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• Barbara Dent Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

re /m1195

Sanjay, we have the proof but we are keeping it "secret" and "confidential" because you cannot be trusted with it. lololol Sound familiar dumbo? This is EXACTLY the same lame excuse you use with us when we demand proof that Sathya Sai Baba sexually abused children and is a pedophile. If you can use this excuse, so can we. Same standards across the board

Ahh...stop pulling out your hair and gnashing your teeth. Pray to the Dark Complexioned One :-)

• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
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• "Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
  "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

Edited by author 11-12-2006 01:15 AM
It's just too bad that the FBI, CIA, Sureté, British Parliament, UNESCO, US State Dept., SBS, CBC, DR, BBC, Daily Telegraph, The Times, The Guardian and numerous other lawful and media agencies are all fully apprised of the proof of Sathya Sai Baba's homosexual child-rapist activities. Same standards across the board? I don't think so. :-)

So in other words, you don't have proof that I sent/received any "Jesus porn" pictures, yet you sit back and tacitly approve of Lisa De Witt's slanderous defamations which have no basis in truth. This shows that you are fully partial towards pro-Sai causes and possess an overwhelming bias and hatred for anything anti-Sai. Thank you, Gerald. :-)

Go on Moreno, shoo, go and fight with csloat. Oh I forgot, he thinks the discussion is over, lol. And rightly so.

As of now, everyone on Wikipedia thinks you are an idiot. :-)

Keep talking faggot-worshipper, Pink certainly is in for you. :-)

And while I'm on the subject, Lisa De Witt has also weighed in her unwanted opinion on Wikipedia:

"Since many of us feel that the salon.com article was very biased and poorly researched, there are two options. Either do not include it at all, or if you do, anti-Sais must allow rebuttal on contentious points. Simple solution..."

Wake-up call, Lisa! Who is "us"? And Wikipedia is not a soapbox for your opinions but is an encyclopaedia article. So no one cares for your toxic feelings, lol. Oh and by the way, stop quoting Vajpayee's letter as proof of anything because Vajpayee is also biased, being a devotee for seventeen years. :-) Ditto for the other signatories on that letter, they have been devotees for variable numbers of years. Boo hoo. :-)

And it is also amusing to point out that although the "FBI, CIA, Sureté, British Parliament, UNESCO, US State Dept., SBS, CBC, DR, BBC, Daily Telegraph, The Times, The Guardian and numerous other lawful and media agencies" all have "proof of Sathya Sai Baba's homosexual child-rapist activities", Sathya Sai Baba has NEVER been charged with any wrongdoing or crime. lol

Keep on name-dropping Sanjay. If all those agencies really had "proof", Sathya Sai Baba would have at the least been charged with something. He has never been charged with anything! Nevertheless, you and other Anti-Sai Activists have boasted, time and time again, that you guys were the one's behind all the negative media against Sai Baba. This is a smear campaign with no proof. And you cannot provide any proof about any complaints being filed with the FBI. It is all hearsay.

• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
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• "Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
  "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

Edited by author 03-04-2008 03:20 AM
/m1195

Sorry Sinjay but we have documented (/m272) very clearly everything about your sordid and perverted past and present, down to the words out of your own foul mouth and confessions, including your constant abuse and harassment which continues up to this very day unabated. You keep forgetting (which is what happens when you tell so many lies) by your own words you asked for "more pics of biblical." One does not ask for MORE pics unless they ALREADY got pics to begin with. Capische, dud boy?
Since you bozos are the ones doing 99% of the abuse on this and other boards, all one has to do is look at your insults and lies below to see the truth. Funny that you are so deluded to think your incessant lies are going to get you out of the big hole you dug for yourself.
One would think that you would learn some day that it's your continuous LIES that got you into this mess in the first place.

Why don't you go play on the other board where you can insult to your hearts content with the other dementeds like you?
You can ramble and throw your hissy girly fits all you want but the simple truth is you have no proof of anything. All you have are a bunch of proven liars who won't go to the police because their subterfuge will be exposed.


Your group is nothing but a hate group and will go down in history as such.

Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 11-17-2007 04:35 AM
/m1197

Yes Joe, I had a feeling that list of students might have come from the alumni.net list, especially since Reinier was very careful not to post the student letters on the english site.

The hate group needed to make it look like Indians were complaining otherwise it would be too apparent it is all suspiciously ADULT male foreigners (most who happen to be white and have Catholic backgrounds, strangely enough) claiming to be sexually abused. Of course they could not get any reliable complaints from actual Indians so they had to make something up.

I'm sure CBI already knows all this.

You may want to make a screen capture of the archived saipages.com post because my browser sticks whenever I go onto that page and I can't get out for a while. I don't know if others are having the same problem.

Edited by author 11-12-2006 10:21 PM
/m1200

Wikipedia is a repository for FACTUALLY documented information such as Prime Minister Vajpayee's letter which I posted there. Vajpayee's letter states unequivocally that this campaign against Sai Baba is CONCOCTED and MALICIOUS and all the documentation backs that up. And Vajpayee had TWO Supreme Court Justices backing him up bozo. Even Blair makes it clear you con artists have NOT reported ANY crimes to the Indian police.

According to your own reasoning we cannot trust anything you anti-Sais say because you are negatively biased. Funny how you are always too blind to see that your standards are all one-sided in your favor. This is why nobody with a brain takes you hypocritical and obviously brain dead con artists seriously. You continuously put your self-centered ideology ahead of the FACTS. Then on top of that, you continuously lie and try to deceive people as to what the facts are. Unfortunately for you, professional law enforcement sees beyond your hate campaign just like those of us who actually have working brain cells (because we have not destroyed them with drugs and alcohol like so many of you).


Whine all you want Sinjay, the truth is out about your hate group now and your end is near. All you are doing is showing you are no friend to the Indian people (mind you Sanjay is a Sri Lankan rebel-type anyway).

Edited by author 11-12-2006 08:05 PM

Twenty Two Sai Students Respond To The Allegations Against Sathya Sai Baba

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• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
  "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed




• "Usebybaba": The Pervert: /m847
  "Usedbybaba" Exposed




• Barbara Dent Exposed



• Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba: SaiSathyaSai.com"

i wonder what usedbybaba has to say about these answers from students.

Edited by author 11-13-2006 08:59 PM
There is not a single name. This is a joke by your friend joe. None of them have resPonded.ofcourse there are boys who have not been molested in the list.The reason for this is,the list has been given by one or two guys
 who listed all the so called form boys. It is difficult to give the exact list but I know that 95% or atleast 90% is correct, BUT ARE YOU HERE TO FIND THE TRUTH?????
"Twenty Two Sai Students Respond To The Allegations Against Sathya " IS A JOKE CREATED BY JOE. THIS IS NOT THEIR RESPONSE. AFTERALL THEY ARE DEVOTEES ACCORDING TO YOU. WHY CAN'T THEY WRITE THEIR NAMES. THIS IS JOE'S RESPONSE IN THE NAMES OF STUDENTS.

Edited by author 11-13-2006 09:10 PM
Usedbybaba, are you illiterate? I suggest you re-read the page. I was not the one who hid the Students names. The webmaster for the ExBaba site himself hid their names because he promised them that he would. Those emails, from Sai Students were obtained by the ExBaba Webmaster himself! Therefore, the ExBaba Webmaster vouched for the integrity and the accuracy of those emails. Tough pill for you to swallow, I know. But you were never a student. You are, however a vicious liar and a pervert with proof.

• Sanjay Dadlani Exposed: /m272 /m1099
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