/m796

"LOL... i think you're Edward,"

Do I look like I care what you think? Bear in mind that you recently decided that Edward was 'usedbybaba'. You change your opinion with the wind and nobody cares anymore about what you think with your crackpot ideas. When everyone else seems to be accepting Edward as an independent person. Your history in this is not very good.

"few times that he replied he posted at the same time you did on ssb2. Usually you post late at night but at those times both of you posted during afternoon.What a coincidence.You usually don't do that."

And this is further proof that you don't even know what you're talking about. For the record, I did not and do not come online in the daytimes. If you are referring to my post on SSB2 (sending a link to a weblog), then you obviously weren't smart enough to figure out that it was posted the previous night, and it was somehow delayed in one of Yaho's backlogs. Please ignore the times when your posts were caught up in Yahoo's backlogs and showed up several hours after they were posted, it doesn't matter because I must have posted in the afternoon in contrary to my usual practice. *rolls eyes* Get a life and discuss some issues about Sai Baba, you're really becoming extremely boring when you clog up this board with your ridiculous fight with usedbybaba.

"btw..i have multiple usernames in that group and it's gonna be so different"

Nice to know that you also have multiple usernames which you are perfectly willing to use in deception. :-) Maybe you are Edward? :-)

I already know all of your different IDs. Break the rules and get banned and all of your IDs will get banned. Your silly games won't work. You just don't get it, do you?

/m799

Sanjay, you seem to forget you are the one rehashing old stuff that has already been dealt with. You are the only one who thinks they are "new" facts since you are just getting around to reading stuff many of us read YEARS ago. Sounds like you didn't do much reading as a devotee. Probably because you were too busy with your porn fetishes.

Josephine Kabutla 642
 
10-20-2006 12:21 PM ET (US)

Edward 643
 
10-20-2006 12:29 PM ET (US)

Josephine Kabutla = Edward

Edited by author 10-27-2006 10:51 PM
"you recently decided that Edward was 'usedbybaba'"

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well , usedbybaba posted as Edward at least once,like yesterday or the day before i think.
The time frame says so.

Edited by author 10-27-2006 10:53 PM
If anybody can point me to a source where I can get a copy of Narasimha Swamiji's 'Guide to Shirdi' which was published in 1947, please email me at saibabaexposed@gmail.com.

Let's just say that I have a very big hunch. :-)

Edited by author 10-27-2006 10:57 PM
Sanjay, you have not retracted anything!

"somewhat exaggerated"? Tell us what parts were not "somewhat exaggerated"?

And since you are now conceding that your bold-face lie was "somewhat exaggerated", you have made the case for me that there is no proof that Sathya Sai Baba raped or sexually abused any children, despite your repeated claims that he is a "paedophile homosexual". Support your claims that Sathya Sai Baba is a "pedophile homosexual". And I am asking for proof, not your speculations, assumptions, conspiracy theories and the like. Proof! Where is it?

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272
"Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed

"I already know all of your different IDs. "
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Lol, no ,of course you don't ,some of them i haven't ever used to post in any of the groups but i use roboform so i refresh them occasionally so they wouldn't expire.



"which you are perfectly willing to use in deception"
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what deception?I'm wiling to use usernames i have i don't see anything deceptive about that,LOL,besides that's not your group,the guy who calls prophet Mohamed a pedophile created it,right?

"and it was somehow delayed in one of Yaho's backlogs."
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yeah right just in time to coincide with Edward's posts on 2 occasions on 2 different days.
LOL.

Kristijan, and you are posting at the same time as me. Does this mean you and I are one? After all, the time frame says so. *rolls eyes* This is not very intelligent and you have no proof that Edward or Josephine are anybody else but themselves. But anyway, you continue to believe whatever you like. :-)

Carbon Dioxide (/m801), excuse me? Nobody has addressed either the Shirdi Lies or the School Lies before it was brought up by yours truly. So tough luck! And it's not like I'm expecting any real response either, because all the books that you claim to have read all replicated the same lies. Speaking of which, do not get into a competition with me. You clearly haven't seen my library of Sai books, especially now that it has had significant additions from fellow ex-devotees who wanted to get rid of theirs. :-)

"Kristijan, and you are posting at the same time as me. Does this mean you and I are one? After all, the time frame says so. *rolls eyes* This is not very intelligent and you have no proof that Edward or Josephine are anybody else but themselves. But anyway, you continue to believe whatever you like. :-)"
__________________________

you don't have to be intelligent to get it.
This place is deserted pretty much,only few ppl here,but out of nowhere
2 times they posted few minutes apart about the same thing which you constantly mention and praise (BBC documentary)and at the same time you posted on sssb2 (daytime in Europe).
LOL

Dadlani, what do you think about hariharan aka usedbybaba and his allegations ,do you believe his accusations?

Kristijan, for God's sake, I'm not interested in your irrelevant talking! Quit it already.

Homoreno (/m805), you can consier anything you want to be a "bold-faced lie" since you have already been exposed as nitpicker extraordinaire, who thinks that any mistake, exaggeration or suggestion is a "lie". What to speak of all of your own lies. I'm not conceding anything, but I wouldn't blame you if you took that position, rather like I "conceded" that the Streetbitches blog was mine when I never said anything in that vein, you deceitful liar you! :-))

You want proof? I've told you many, many times already, which you have never addressed: We do not have to give proof to you because you are not an official or reputable agent for Sathya Sai Baba. All civic, federal and national authorities who need to know the facts have been aprrised of the proof that you are so desperately begging for, despite your lack of qualifications. You have no proof that children were not abused by Sathya Sai Baba; anything that you have stated is your own opinion and which is not backed up by any facts. Before you talk about assumptions, speculations and conspiracy theories, take a good long look at yours and see how laughable, hilarious and weak they are.

Maybe then you'll get your proof, and only if you ask nicely with a 'please' and a 'thank you' like anyone with manners would do. :-)

Last post for tonight. Don't forget to email me if you have any information about Narasimha Swami's 'Guide to Shirdi' that was published in 1947. I have a hunch that I'm sure I'm right about something. :-)

Edited by author 10-27-2006 11:11 PM
My last post (/m810) was posted before I say /m809. I haven't been following usedbybaba's accusations because they take up too much of this board's archives. Try listing all of them with all of the "refutations" from the devotees and I'll think about it.

I'm not interested if he is using different IDs or not, nobody cares about that. Goodnight.

To the contrary Sanjay (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED"), I have wholly refuted your lamentable "Sai Baba Shirdi Lies" which almost exclusively relied on Sai Devotees and LIMF (by your own admission). Funny enough, when it comes to Shirdi Baba, you cited LIMF and Sai Devotees as reliable, accurate, honest and objective sources. However, you recently trashed and bashed LIMF as "bullshit" and Sai Devotees as "liars". Which means, of course, that you just refuted all those articles yourself.

And my article is almost done about Baba's birthdate. It is scathing! Coming soon.

- Shirdi Sai Baba Imbroglio: Part 1
- Shirdi Sai Baba Imbroglio: Part 2
- Shirdi Sai Baba Imbroglio: Part 3

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272
"Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed

Edited by author 10-27-2006 11:20 PM
"Kristijan, for God's sake, I'm not interested in your irrelevant talking! Quit it already."

________________

and it seems nobody is interested in reading and commenting your stuff,the way you'd like , so you've created prince Edward and Josephine????

Edited by author 10-27-2006 11:19 PM
"I haven't been following usedbybaba's accusations because they take up too much of this board's archives. Try listing all of them with all of the "refutations" from the devotees and I'll think about it.

I'm not interested if he is using different IDs or not, nobody cares about that. Goodnight."

____________

but wasn't quick topic mentioned on exbaba?
it seems as if ubb made a large portion of the comments on that board throughout the years,
Goodnight.

Re /m810

Thank you Sanjay. You are saying that all the allegations made against Sathya Sai Baba being a "pedophile" have no proof to back them up whatsoever. It is all "secret", just like all the other alleged "proof" Anti-Sai Activists claim they have against Sathya Sai Baba. Strange enough, all those parents whose children have allegedly been sexually abuse by Baba have done absolutely nothing about it in the past 6 years. No police complaints. No court cases. Nothing. And you can always provide your "proof" for others here to see. You can't do it and neither can anyone else. I know why: Because there is no proof against Sathya Sai Baba. Nothing. Zilch. Nada.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272
"Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed

Edited by author 10-28-2006 01:20 AM
/m799

Kind of like the abuse you are so good at meting out, eh Dadlani? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Maybe while you are seeing that counsellor, you can get him to teach you how to look at (and take responsibility for) your own projections so you can quit blaming others for your own faults.

forget the blow job,"hariharan" was "PIERCING HIM ".

Hey Angel you have suceeded in changing the topic. Fantastic.But I will not change the topic.

well , usedbybaba posted as Edward at least once,like yesterday or the day before i think.
The time frame says so.

MY GOD YOU LIE TOO.

My Life is my message is the words of the 'avatar' .Should we follow him is the question,like the way he lives.

Edited by author 10-28-2006 07:55 AM
"well , usedbybaba posted as Edward at least once,like yesterday or the day before i think.
The time frame says so.

MY GOD YOU LIE TOO."
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i lie too?
like who ,like you?
well ,sorry it was unintentional i was maybe just maybe wrong and you haven't posted as Edward and i apologize , then it was saiexposed ,but in the end hariharan,who cares .

Angel tried all the tricks to change the topic. He kept asking questions about me and his friends Lisa abused me and joe kept pointing to his blogg.
I did not change the topic.Now exasperated Angel is finding a new way to divert.He also invited Sanjay to indulge in this discussion.
Throughout he talks of anything but baba. Now he does not know what to do.
What a nuetral person you are Angel.
by the way i did not understand a word of what you wrote about me posting in your name etc., I don't have so much time.
Bye

Angel there was a singer by name hariharan in parthi and i know he would never write. So don't care.
Why are you harping on me and my so called other IDs.
You tell others why care, don't waste time etc., but you make all sorts of assumptions and waste time.

Edited by author 10-29-2006 03:26 AM
MY GOD YOU LIE TOO usedbybaba! Like claiming we are being paid to look into your claims. And like LYING about the different usernames you are posting under when I showed CLEARLY you are blldexter by same IP addresses. What a mega hypocrite you are. You people are disgusting. People are tired of your lies buddy boy. You bozos have pushed people BEYOND patience with your continuous abuse, mind games and WHINING. Is it ANY wonder nobody trusts you idiots with all the stupid mind games you play while you try to act so innocent and beyond reproach? You are nothing but a con man.

Don't let the conscienceless fool guilt trip you Angelic. He is going to have to face his hypocrisy and lies one way or the other.

Edited by author 10-28-2006 07:45 AM
/m822

Again you are projecting your OWN behavior about making assumptions and wasting time you fool. Wake up and look in the mirror, usedbybaba. How CONVENIENTLY you forget you were making stupid assumptions about Simon and I being the same person when he lives in the UK and I live in the US. And you just can't fathom why people think you are dumb.

Edited by author 10-28-2006 11:12 AM
/m821

"Angel tried all the tricks to change the topic."
____________________________________________

Ermmmmm,no you've requested that i send you your other posts .

 
"usedbybaba 778
 
10-27-2006 09:18 AM ET (US)
"by the way send me some of my non usedbybaba posts.let me read them."


"He kept asking questions about me "
__________________________________________


LOL no,i did not ask you any question this time.I'm no longer interested in knowing anything about you hariharan, you've said enough.



"by the way i did not understand a word of what you wrote about me posting in your name etc., I don't have so much time
Bye.
_________________________________________
"sad3 272
09-19-2006 06:18 AM ET (US)
 Edited by author 09-20-2006 04:51 AM
hi! me again! I just want to say I did not want anyone to feel hurt, or attact. all this is hard for me to. By the way, Joe 108 says: anonimus ill people. I am just a student from Croatia, 25 old. I will not be sanding any messegas more, I realy need someone sirius,so that I can talk about this. This kind a conversation is not something I am used to. At the end I used to say :sai ram, but now only,bye



"hari haran 261
 09-15-2006 02:14 AM ET (US)
 Hi brothers at parthi and other guys. I have studied at the parthi school and i have recived a chain and a watch and a ring from swami and i know the price i have payed for it . I also loved inserting my penis behind baba as he liked it and though he could not take it in fully. But i am also hiv positive . The fact was discovered after i left parthi. I had to tell of my early life at parthi to the doctor as i was councelled about my disease. But i know that swami is through enjoyment and i also know of some other teachers who were interested in kundalini question . I hope the other brothers will understand what i mean. so have fun with swami and enjoy the hiv ride. I can only say that i kept mostly to swami and two other guys only.I hope they too are healthy bye and love "




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bye,bye hariharan

"Angel there was a singer by name hariharan in parthi and i know he would never write"
__________

OK, so what you're saying is somebody is pretending again to be somebody else.
okaaaay
so,why are you doing that?

Thank you for this opportunity to set the record straight. Recently, I found that someone had posted a message on an Anti-Baba web-site that was quoted out of context from a letter I sent to the editor of India Today in response to a degrading article they printed about Sai Baba in December, 2000 - 75 years of Sathya Sai Baba - Faith and Controversy. My letter, the full text of which was not printed in the magazine or on the web-site, was the only letter published in the next edition of India Today supporting Sai Baba by outlining the differences between eastern and western attitudes to religion and sex. I tried to remove this post from their message board but was unable to do so as I was not given access. I have been a devotee of Sai Baba for 8 years and lived in Puttaparthy and Whitefield for most of that time near his ashrams and travelled extensivelly through India as well as exploring the sacred literature on which his teachings are based and my faith has only been re-affirmed, although I have been tested many times, almost beyond bearing, the many miracles he has created in my life bear witness to a power beyond human comprehension. I am humbled and blessed. I request that whoever has posted the comment that was quoted out of context to this anti-baba web-site please remove it, as it was not posted with my consent and distorts my views completely. Sai Ram.

Edited by author 10-28-2006 12:43 PM
Susan, I seriously doubt that Anti-Sai Sites will remove your quote from their sites. However, if you would like to provide a clarification regarding this matter, please feel free to Contact Me and I can help you publicly clarify your post on my website that exposes the lies, deceit and dishonesty of Anti-Sai Activists: SaiSathyaSai.com.

Edited by author 10-28-2006 07:06 PM
Susan, exbaba.com has a disclaimer they recently put on their site saying they will correct information so if that is where your quote was you can contact them and see if they live up to their written statement. My experience is that they will do nothing. We have asked them to correct much misinformation and they won't lift a finger. Not much you can do when people are so bigoted and narrow-minded that it makes them blind.

Edited by author 10-29-2006 03:51 AM
/m810

And according to YOUR logic Sanjay, we have no proof children were not molested by YOU. After all, you admitted downloading illegal porn while falsely claiming you worked for the Internet Watch Foundation. And what about that jesus porn you were looking at? We have no proof you were not molesting jesus either. After all you were asking for pics of "naughty jesus." With your sordid background one can only wonder whether you are into Satanic worship involving child sacrifice.

Edited by author 10-29-2006 12:10 AM
Now Moreno would like to recruit Susan Olorenshaw in order to feed his negative campaign of lies, deceit, slander and dishonesty. As if this guy wasn't suspicious enough?

/m812

"To the contrary Sanjay (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED"), I have wholly refuted your lamentable "Sai Baba Shirdi Lies" which almost exclusively relied on Sai Devotees and LIMF (by your own admission)."

LOL, talk about psychological brainwashing. None of Gerald Moreno's "refutations" actually dealt with the subject matter. It is a three-blog rant about how I have allegedly used sources to suit my own "agenda". No comment whatsoever about the exposure of the strong culture of Shirdi worship in Puttaparthi, which proves Sai Baba as a liar when he said that nobody knew of Shirdi Sai Baba in the region. Nor about the fact that the young Raju was himself a Shirdi Sai devotee, worshipping Shirdi Sai by attending local bhajans, reading the Sri Sai Satcharita, worshipping his pictures, reciting the 'Shirdi Sai Dandakam', and on top of all that he wore a Shirdi Sai locket around his neck! And there is more to come on this issue. :-)

Nope, poor Moreno has nothing to say about all of this, and is simply enraged about how I allegedly use sources to suit my own "agenda". LOL, pathetic.

"And my article is almost done about Baba's birthdate. It is scathing! Coming soon."

Yawn, wake me up when it's ready. If it's anywhere near as "scathing" as Moreno's refutation of the Alaya Rahm article (which was scathing? more like laughable) then I ain't gonna be holding mah breath, Sir! :-)

/m815

Thank you Sanjay. You are saying that all the allegations made against Sathya Sai Baba being a "pedophile" have no proof to back them up whatsoever. It is all "secret", just like all the other alleged "proof" Anti-Sai Activists claim they have against Sathya Sai Baba.

Look how Moreno contradictsd his own words. In one breath he says that we have no proof, and in the next breath he makes references to "secret" proof. LOL. Yes, I repeat what I said earlier; there is plenty of proof but it is not for you. :-) Apparently, even ordinary observers (like Edward et al) who have next-to-no knowledge of the SSB controversy are not too bothered about it, which is why many - many - people now have a negative attitude towards Sathya Sai Baba. Now it has entered the academic mainstream, so tough luck! :-)

"Strange enough, all those parents whose children have allegedly been sexually abuse by Baba have done absolutely nothing about it in the past 6 years. No police complaints. No court cases. Nothing. And you can always provide your "proof" for others here to see. You can't do it and neither can anyone else. I know why: Because there is no proof against Sathya Sai Baba. Nothing. Zilch. Nada."

I don't know how Moreno can sit there and lie so much. He of all people know that there have been at least two court cases lodged against Sathya Sai Baba; one in India and one in America.

So don't be fooled by the repeated assertions of Sai Organisation puppets like Gerald Moreno and Lisa De Witt, who midnlessly repeat the same old rubbish again and again and again. Court cases have been lodged in India and in the USA.

It should also be noted that Gerald Moreno is a devotee/supporter of the Sathya Sai Baba Copycat: Swami Premananda. Despite the fact that this copycat "guru" has been convicted for murder and rape of 13 girls (not women), as well as the decision being upheld by the Supreme Court of India in spite of so-called "evidence" to exonerate him, he is still languishing in jail. In spite of all these documented facts, Morneo continues to display his devotion to Premananda by dedicating a photo gallery to him on one of his websites, as well as constructing his own page about how/why he thinks Premananda is innocent.

Hands up all those who think Moreno is some weirdo psycho attracted to gurus who put their hands where they don't belong? :-)

Susan, I am sure that Exbaba.Com will remove your comments if you wish it so. Please contact them on this matter.

And for the record, I have plenty of witness statements and testimonials from all sorts of people who think that Gerald and Lisa are paid agents of Sathya Sai Baba and/or the Sai Organisation to defend him on the Internet. Really, when I go public with this information you will be astounded. :-)

By the way, since Gerald Moreno thinks that he is some sort of wise guy asking for "proof" of Sathya Sai Baba's molestations of little boys and young men, we may well ask what sort of proof is required to prove without doubt. (I have said this many times before but since Gerald Moreno and his cohorts insist on playing silly games, I may as well repeat myself. As far as I can see, there are only two ways to prove Sathya Sai baba as a homosexual paedophile:

1 - To catch him red-handed.
2 - Photographic/video evidence showing him molesting one of his victims.

Regarding Possibility 1, several people (including long-time devotee and close associate Dr. N. Bhatia) testify about a young boy who was sodomised by Sai Baba. Incidentally Bhatia testifies also to his long sexually active relationship with Sai Baba.

Possibility 2 - A photograph of Sathya Sal molesting a child exists. When this evidence is submitted into court, that will be the beginning of the end. I hope and pray that the photo will be splashed across the newspapers and the TV, with the offending part pixelated for public sensibilities, of course. :-)

Oh, let's not forget a third possibility: Sathya Sai Baba's DNA extracted from a semen sample that is present in either the mouth or the anus of the child in question. If Gerald Moreno wishes, he may organise a checkup for all students to undergo a spontaneous physical examination by which DNA samples are taken from the mouths/anuses of all students.

After all, they do that in the Olympics too, random drug-testing. So random semen/DNA-testing. Do it. :-)

Edited by author 03-03-2008 01:34 AM
/m834

Too funny. Sanjay has "testimonials from all sorts of people." Yeah, we know how "reliable" the anti-Sai testimonials are. And we certainly know about what sorts of people are in the anti-Sai group. From wanted criminals like Anton Hein to sleazy unindicted perverts like you. I suppose now you'll tell me they are "signed affidavits." ROTFL. You are so dumb it's pathetic Sanjay. Please do go public with your non-existent info though. Maybe someone in the Sai org. will sue you for defamation.

If anti-Sais were any dumber they'd all be rocks.

The truth is nobody needs to be paid to be motivated stand up to you crooked con artists.



Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 10-29-2006 04:29 PM
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______________________


Words are useless! Gobble-gobble-gobble-gobble-gobble! Too much of it, dahling, too much!That is why I show you...
 

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/87/haha1ji5.gif

...i'm still a member,BWAHAHAHHA


p.s.
Dadlani you can't do anything about it, HAHAahahah


it seems you're a moderator of a group created by a guy who calls prophet Mohamed a pedophile and you even agreed with him in a certain post!
oops!

Edited by author 10-30-2006 12:25 AM
/m836

And remember how dorky Dadlani the hypocrite supreme whined about me "censoring" people in my group?

What's wrong cowardly, dud boy, afraid the truth might get out about what liars you all are?

BTW, that group was open to the public until about the time Sanjay took over. I know because I have referenced NUMEROUS posts off of that group for years before he came along. Obviously, Sanjay has MUCH to hide.

A full response to the Anti-Sai Pervert, Sanjay Kishore Dadlani regarding Sathya Sai Baba's birthday date:

• The Sathya Sai Baba Birthday Controversy

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272
"Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed

It is to be aptly noted that Sanjay is once again speculating about Sathya Sai Baba with no proof. Apparently, all Sanjay can do is cite rumors, conspiracy theories and second-hand and anonymous stories to support his allegations against Sathya Sai Baba. That's it.

Sanjay lost and is a loser. Substantiate your claims with proof or shut up. :-)

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272
"Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed

For the record, once again, I am not a "devotee" of Swami Premananda. There is a website that discusses the allegations against Premananda in which all the alleged victims recanted their confessions because they claimed they were tortured by the police into giving false statements. Also, a world-reknown DNA specialist, Dr. Wilson J. Wall, said the following about the DNA "evidence" against Swami Premananda:

"... When I say that the accused has not fathered this foetus, what I mean to say is that there is not even a chance, or even an infinitesimal chance of him being the father....Someone is trying to set-up Swami Premananda. The DNA case is a fabrication from start to finish. This deception throws a terrible shadow over validity of DNA fingerprinting if now there are scientists who are prepared to misuse it to find the innocent guilty." (Reference)

Any fair-minded person who reads these facts will have valid doubts as to the veracity of the allegations made against Swami Premananda.

Of course, when it comes to the sexual abuse of the Hare Krishna's, Sanjay glosses over it and is very forgiving for their shortcomings even though he claimed he was abused (sexually?) in the Hare Krishna's as a child.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272
"Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed

Edited by author 10-30-2006 02:33 AM
Just recently, the Anti-Sai Siamese-Twins (Robert Priddy and Barry Pittard) publicly humiliated Sanjay and gave him a whopping blow to the face when they said the following (in response to Venkataraman's stories about Lord Rama's drama with Ravana, Sabari, Jatayu, Sugriva, etc., in the Ramayana):

"Nor can any intelligent person make good or relevant sense of it in the modern world – it is just a fantastic, impossible concocted story of the 'Superman' kind – with 'monkey-man' Hanuman lifting and flying aloft with a whole mountain (so Rama could pick out a herb from it!) or jumping across the sea to Sri Lanka. Come on, how can one be so backward intellectually? This may be o.k. for ignorant peasants, but the thinking world must regard it as sheer delusion!"

Did you get that Sanjay?

...it is just a fantastic, impossible concocted story of the 'Superman' kind...

Come on, how can one be so backward intellectually?

This may be o.k. for ignorant peasants, but the thinking world must regard it as sheer delusion!

The reason why this is so amusing is because Sanjay is a Hare Krishna Congregational Member who happens to be one those "backward intellectually" "ignorant peasants" who believes in "impossible concocted stories of the 'Superman' kind"!

That's right, Sanjay fully believes that the Ramayana, Bhagavad Gita and Srimad Bhagavatam are Divine Scriptures that document literal and historical miracles, lilas, manifestations and paranormal events in the lives of Avatars (incarnations of God). Sanjay fully believes in the "superman" miracles and stories attributed to Lord Ramachandra, Lord Krishna, Hanuman (the Monkey God) etc. As a matter of fact, Sanjay engaged me in a fierce debate in which he defended his belief that Lord Krishna literally manifested 16,000 human forms, married 16,000 separate wives and procreated with each one of them producing innumerable offspring!

What makes this even more weird is that Sanjay is a staunch defender of the same people (Priddy & Pittard) who openly mock his religious beliefs!

Niiiiiiice friends you have there, Sanjay. lol

Sanjay is the black sheep of the Anti-Sai Movement. Keeping in perfect form with his outcast role, Sanjay bleets "Baa Baa" "Baa Baa", obsessively tracking every bit of information relating to Sathya Sai Baba so he can twist it for his Anti-Sai friends who use him for their own nefarious ends.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: » /m272
» "Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed

Edited by author 10-30-2006 02:53 AM
still trying to change the topic ,Angel.
If you are as sincere as you try to show come to the topic,Don't try this hari haran thing and divert.I can also call you Susan or joe108.Afterall you posted messages in my name and accepted them. Just say you have no courage to accept your Avatar is a molester and cheat.Repeating the hareiharan thing will not work.
Come to the point.I am happy that you are not interested in me. Then come to the point.Assuming that I wrote in the name of Hariharan,afterall you are interested in the sex thing about baba.Go ask all the details about it to him in his topic area.This topic is about baba and not HariHaran.
I know Joe gave you the idea to attack the person who is writing and not the subject at hand.He is the one who never comes to the topic.When he is there to do that job of personalising the discussion,you should concentrate on your job, the job of picking up points and giving it to the abusive Lisa and Blabbering 'exposed' specilist joe108.When they are doing their job well ,you should concentrate on finding out who is who and cut and paste abuses of (Anti babas alone)and MAKE SURE NOBODY EVER DISCUSSS BABA.
HARI HARAN means shiva and vishnu.I don't have to use holy names to talk of baba.
YOU WANTED ME TO PROMISE,WITH AN ASSUMPTION THAT I WILL NOT.MOST PROBABLY YOU WERE SURPRISED.I PROMISED ON MY PARENTS AND NOW I AM DOING IT ON GOD,
THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO ME IN PARTHI WAS WHAT I WROTE.IF YOU CANNOT SEE MY SINCERITY YOU WILL NEVER. ATLEAST DON'T WRITE CRAP WITHOUT KNOWING ANYTHING.
TELL ME WHO IS EVER TALKING WITH PROOF.HAVE THE PROVED BABA IS NOT A MOLESTER OR HAVE I PROVED BEYOND DOUBT. NOBODY.THEN HOW CAN YOU TAKE SIDES.
Oh, how nuetral.

JOE 108"For the record, once again, I am not a "devotee" of Swami Premananda"
MY GOD I DID NOT KNOW THAT YOU SUPPORT PREMANANDA.I AM NOT SURPRISED BUT SHOCKED. HOW CRIMINAL A MIND YOU SHOULD HAVE TO SUPORT THAT PREDATOR.
NOW IF PREMANANDA IS NOT A CRIMINAL,THEN WE CAN WORSHIP, SATHYA SAI ,HITLER ,OSAMA BIN LADEN OR ANY MURDERER AND MOLESTER. ATLEAST OSAMA IS JUST A FANATIC AND NOT A MOLESTER. COMPARED TO THE TWO BABAS (PREMA AND SATHYA) OSAMA IS A BETTER HUMAN BEING.
ASSUMING HARE RAMA HARE KRISHNA PEOPLE ARE MOLESTERS,DOES IT JUSTIFY WHAT THE BABAS ARE DOING.YOU ARE TURING OUT TO BE JOKER 108 FROM JOE 108.
WHAT AUDACITY CALLING PREMANANDA A GOOD PERSON.HE IS NOTHING BUT A PROVEN
CRIMINAL AND YOU HAVE A SOFT CORNER FOR HIM.
MY GOD WHAT ARE YOU MADE OF????

If his “life is his message”. Should he not tell the world how his brother’s family became so rich. Did he work in some IT company and give all the money to them

Edited by author 10-30-2006 07:16 AM
Speaking of changing the subject, you are STILL avoiding the question as to WHY you so believed Sai Baba was God that you thought giving him a blow job would purify you, usedbybaba. And just how does having sex with "God" equate with giving up lust in your twisted mind?

Come on usedbybaba, quit your childish whining (which you are using as a cowardly distraction) and answer the questions.

Edited by author 11-27-2006 06:42 AM
usedbybaba=hariharan

/m779
/m785
/m825


hariharan
http://www.quicktopic.com/9/H/ehfcBK8qrWRYZ

message 261
09-15-2006 02:14 AM ET (US)
"IT WAS BIT DIFFICULT PIERCING HIM SO HE WOULD JUST SUCK FOR ME"

"I also loved inserting my penis behind
baba as he liked it and though he could not take it in fully.
But i am also hiv positive "



usedbybaba:

"Did ur boy friend fu**k u in thr mouth?"

"You bi''**h"

"you lingam sucking swine"

"we know of Siva's third eye what is the third leg.ofcourse it is cock u dummy."


"ofcourse we both do discuss sex.come on tell everyone the truth"

"You don't have to tell them about the other similar discussions that
you had with joe 108..His wife may not like it.you are a very naughty
girl."
 
"lisa de bitch y dont u shut the fuck up u silly lallupanju whore"

"I am running for cover.Sorry I forogt you are an Animal lover."

"sob sob sob sob sob.If you like the taste of linga how can you object to some one "molesting " you."

"Go and taste baba's linga ."

"So he sent a woman who is drunk and a pedophile by name Lisa"

"you think the so called devotees will allow anyone to invetigate. NO, THEY WILL KILL HIM. Osama must be jelous of baba for having such wonderful (killers) devotees"

"you must have slept with all the guys and maybe forgot who among these is premanand. "

"Why can"t you sleep with me. maybe you have a pole insted of a hole. wow baba will enjoy it. By the way what are you professionaly , oh i forgot that you belong to the oldest profession. Hooker"

"u must have molested your brother or father and blamed them for this"

"all the three of you are phedophiles"

"No, nobody should send their children to Lisa the phedophile.She might hand them over to Baba after molesting them"

"AFTERALL YOU ARE A MOLESTOR AND PEDOPHILE WHO DROOL FOR BABA, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT YOU.GO SUCK WHAT YOU WANT AND ENJOY."

"Why are talking about the smell in your mouth start eating from the correct end, it won't smell only baba likes your smell. PIGS OF THE SAME MUCK COME TOGETHER."

"I am more intelligent,not to give you any clear details. ha, ha ,ha"

"I am smiling. blah blah blah LALUPANJU,he,he,he.HE HE HE,"

"What I do now does not affect me much. it is more of fun"

" ha ha ha ha ha I am really enjoying this "


"anand krishnamurthi(usedbybaba)

/m863
10-31-2006 12:36 AM ET (US)
 

"Lisa the street bitch go sleep with baba,if you like him so much."choothiya
thu cheddi nikalo voh dengey blessings.phir behanchooth joe 108 sey jao vo bi thumko gaand mardhegi. lav dey key bal.shut up
____________________________

Choothiya 1 thumb down
Urdu/Hindi/Punjabi Desi for fucker (referring to "chooth" the female -reproductive organ)

Cheddies means pornography.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=+cheddi+



/m918
"Behan chooth Angel,baath math kar."
__________________

what does Behan chooth,mean????
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22behan+ch...2005-15%2CDVXA%3Aen

I know what you want .you want me to flare up and abuse,then help you to use it.
How does it matter to the topic, Angel aka susan.

You are angry that I DID NOT FALL FOR YOUR TRICK.NOW INSTEAD OF DIRECTLY USING MY ABUSE YOU WANT TO USE THIS HARIHARAN'S MESSAGE. I thought you are very intelligent. Now i don't have to worry.

You attack the person who is writing and not the subject at hand

Discuss the topic.If you are sincere.
Lisa, I have already told you that neither of us can prove one way or the other about his abuse.So it is again diverting the topic.
Talk things that can be proved.

Should he not come out in the open about the June 3rd murders and set an example to others –after all his “life is his message”.

so I was wrong.it was joe 108 aka Angel.hmmm.

Throughout joe 108 aka angel talk of anything but baba.

JOE 108 aka ANGEL answer my question or you will expose yourself.
Where has baba's brother's family got all the money,from.
you call me the pervert and if i don't take it you get it back (your molesting guru's logic).So according to his logic, you are what you call me.ha ha ha ha.

Edited by author 10-30-2006 01:45 PM
"The trial went wrong for Caiaphas. He needed to prove that Jesus had threatened to destroy the Temple, which would have been both treason and an offence against God. But the witnesses couldn't agree on what Jesus had said. So that charge failed.
Caiaphas decided to see if he could induce Jesus to utter blasphemy.
He asked Jesus, point blank, "Are you the Son of God, the Son of the Blessed? Are you The Messiah?"
The Gospels vary a little, and only in Mark's account does Jesus answer that he is.
It's enough. Caiaphas announces that Jesus has spoken blasphemy. The rest of the Court agree. Jesus deserves the death sentence."

LISA, YOU SAY YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN AND YOU TELL ME THAT JESUS WAS ACCUSED OF MURDER.I HAVE TAKEN A QUOTE FROM BBC'S RELIGION AND ETHICS. I HAVE NOT SEEN A SINGLE WORD ACCUSING JESUS OF MURDER,EITHER IN THIS OR ANYOTHER WEB SITE.
JUST TO WIN AN ARGUMENT YOU ARE TWISTING HISTORY.YOU HAVE NOT SPARED EVEN JESUS.

/m848
I'm not attacking you.
I'm not angry with you and i don't want anything.

Edited by author 10-30-2006 03:58 PM
A conference is gonna be held here in a few days.I think guests from Europe will talk or something.I don't know...Anyway i took some pics today(had to resize them ,originals were over 2.2 Mb each).They're still kinda big though.

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6333/image4fdte9.jpg

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http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/534/image3tzmk6.jpg

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Edited by author 01-23-2008 05:11 AM
I see you are still playing your mind games and going into your bible thumping mode as an avoidance tool, usedbybaba. How any times will I have to tell you your mind games won't work on me?

The only thing that can be "proven" on this board is that you are a gameplayer who uses different id's to play mind games and you talk like a pervert. I know you think in your egocentric world your experiences are the only ones that matter but there are other people in the world who have differing experiences and opinions and theirs are JUST as important as, and most likely MORE honest than, YOURS bozo. I think it's funny that you are SO arrogant and yet so dumb but think you are so smart that you are actually getting away with anything. Please quit wasting my time with your idiocy. YOU are a bore. Got that? You are dumb! Got that? You thought you could fool people by claiming you had sex with God because it would "purify" you for God's sake! How dumb is that? Please do EXPLAIN why you thought Baba was God you coward. You owe EVERYONE an explanation. I'm waiting to hear how you are going to resolve your oh so obvious contradictions. You're NOT going to get away with this garbage because I'm going to keep shoving it in your face until you take responsibility for it. If I have to go back and get your quotes and shove them in your face, I will. If you're man enough to do the crime, you're man enough to do the time.

Edited by author 10-30-2006 07:19 PM
/m855

Usedbybaba, you are doing a VERY good job of revealing just what your true motives are here. YOU are a Christian bible thumper no doubt and your agenda is OBVIOUSLY to bash Hinduism. This was my suspicion all along.

They CERTAINLY called Jesus the devil which is just as bad, if not worse, you fool. You don't know Jesus. And you obviously don't know much about the scriptures. Like I said before, it's VERY easy to claim you believe in someone who isn't "here." But idiots like YOU kill the real ones when they are here because you are so dumb and arrogant. So which bible thumping college did you go to bozo? And just WHO taught you that it is ok to lie in order to smear Hinduism? The truth FINALLY comes out.

YOU BOTH(LISA AND ANGEL AKA JOE108) ARE STILL NOT COMING TO THE TOPIC.

1.I HAVE NOT SEEN A SINGLE WORD ACCUSING JESUS OF MURDER,EITHER IN THIS OR ANYOTHER WEB SITE.JUST TO WIN AN ARGUMENT YOU ARE TWISTING HISTORY.YOU HAVE NOT SPARED EVEN JESUS.

2.Where has baba's brother's family got all the money,from.

I hope you don't prove that you are all hired devotees of BABA.I really hope that you are all sincere in trying to know and understand the truth.

Lisa I have a lot of respect for Jesus.This is what Hinduism taught me.
For you kind information,Hinduism is not a religion,but a way of life.
It is only because of the Sematic religions(Islam and Christianity),Hinduism the so called religion came into existence.Learn before you abuse.IF YOU KEEP ABUSING IT IS GOING TO AFFECT YOU AND NOT THE OTHERS.Was it not taught to you " Do unto others what you want others to do to you(something like that).
Your Hypocrate Guru also says "Sarve janaha sukino bhavanthoo"
Let the whole world be happy and peaceful.
WELL IF YOU ARE A BELIEVER OF BABA YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS,OTHERWISE MAKE MONEY AND ENJOY.

ENJOY THAT SO MANY YOUNG BOYS ARE BEING MOLESTED AND MANY HAVE LOST THEIR YOUTH AND STRUGGLING TO COME TO TERMS WITH NORMAL LIFE.What can you do if their Karma is like that. Hundreds of them are suffering not because of baba but because it is written in their fate that they will be molested by an old man and their voices will be stiffeled.Why do you care?
YOU ENJOY YOUR ABUSE.

ENJOY THE FACT THAT BABA AND HIS FAMILY ARE DESTROYING PEOPLE'S LIFE,AND CHEATING PEOPLE AND MAKING MONEY. HOW does it matter to you.Yo and your friends go ahead and bring in more people to the BABA fold and ENJOY THE DESTRUCTION.ENJOY THE DESTUCTION OF FAMILIES IN THE NAME OF GOD,AFTERALL HE CAN DO A BETTER JOB THAN AN ATOM BOMB. An atom bomb can only destry a generation or two but you and Baba have come together to destroy families and their descendents in one go.MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. MAY GOD GIVE YOU ALL THE PROSPERITY IN LIFE.ALL THE BEST.

Edited by author 10-30-2006 11:02 PM
You don't know what you are talking about usedbybaba. YOU are the one twisting things here and you are doing it PURELY for selfish gain. You need to learn to mind your own business usedbybaba. You are one of the biggest hypocrites there is. I'm not the one who came in here talking like a pervert, posting under numerous pseudonyms and pretending to be a Hindu when in reality you are a Christian who doesn't believe in Avatars or Hinduism. You're all talk and no do, bozo. You are as confused as Dadlani is about religion and then some. And even WORSE you bozos think you have the right to force your idiotic and ignorant beliefs on others. I'm not interested in your idiotic beliefs, used buddy. Go preach to someone else in the name of God ya fool. Your big mouth is NO substitute for my spiritual experiences which I have been having since I was a little girl. The ONLY person who can teach me who Jesus is is Jesus HIMSELF, fool. Same with God. I ONLY listen to the real deal, not phonies like YOU. Now get outta my face you phony. You don't KNOW squat.

And quit avoiding the question and tell us all why you believed Sai Baba was God. You are the one who opened your big fat mouth and now you are going to have to pay for it. I personally don't think you EVER believed Sai Baba was God. Nor do I believe anything else you have told. In short, I think you are a blatant, selfish liar who calls himself a "Christian." You are an embarassment to both Hindus and Christians.

Edited by author 10-31-2006 12:49 AM
   Lisa the street bitch go sleep with baba,if you like him so much.choothiya
thu cheddi nikalo voh dengey blessings.phir behanchooth joe 108 sey jao vo bi thumko gaand mardhegi. lav dey key bal.shut up

Edited by author 10-31-2006 04:55 AM
/m863

More obscene posts from usedbybaba aka anand, the preachy, cowardly, hypocritical wacko who calls himself a "Christian."

When used buddy doesn't get his way (and his continuous mind games fail) he reverts into one of his many childish multiple personalities.

Dear Usedbybaba,

I am sorry that these other freaks have chosen to take out their frustrations about being impotent on you. They know that you are a virile young man, who is immeasurably kind, and that you mean well. Like I said in so many prior posts on the other chat topic, Sexual Molestation of Students by SSB, evil drones are always IMPOSSIBLE to change. They have no minds for the truth because S.B. doesn't, and he made them all in his exact likeness. That's what a copycat drone is--all the same, all deadly boring, stupid, lazy and mean. They always try to reverse it on you and call you what THEY are. See how they copy us? They use our words to tell us off. Duh! These creepy drone things (I can't call them beings) are truly only clones of evil Sai freak. They run like a limited program... because they ARE!! They aren't made to think. They CAN'T. They attack all that are intelligent, because truth is incomprehensible to them. They even attack God Itself. They are programmed for this task, to take out Earth's Creator and all Creator's true children. But that is impossible because they are God's opposite. God is strength. They are weak. God is thought. They are thoughtless. God is love, they are hate. God is compassion, they are cruel. God is Godly, they are Satanic evil. God is Light, they are dark. There is nothing at all in them that is remotely like us, who are God's children. I'll say it again. They are God's OPPOSITES in ALL respects. They HATE all that is God. They are NOT human. I meant it when I said that these evil drones were not Created by God. They invaded our Earth with Satan Sai, back in Earth's Beginning, then raped and molested everyone here. God has been telling us the same story throughout the ages, that these bastards came her and raped us and took our lands and forced us to serve their evil. We know, because it happened to us again this time around, AGAIN. But this is the Final Time, like I said. I promise. All Great Teacher like Krishna, Buddha, Christ, Mohammed... have spoken about these evil demons and their evil actions, since the Beginning of Time. Nothing new. These sickening drones are the same sickening evil bastards who have droned and jabbered the same mindless, boring crap about their dirty Sai being God, since they came here. They have always tried to enstate their Satan as god over our Earth. Nothing new. Same crap. Same filth. Same lies. That's why I wrote that last piece about some of S. Baba's other prior evil incarnations. Of course I was given that Truth from OUR Sacred Ancient people, not from any of their ancient whores. Of course they would disagree with the Truth. It's what they do--disagree with God, argue with God and Truth and Love and all that God and God's children write and speak about. They are disagreeable evil. Satanic evil!! Of course they are told by their Satan that he is their god. He is. They don't know anything else, or can they ever. Of course they are all told the extreme opposite of what we are told. Sin has always been opposite to good. It's what they are. EVIL. Of course they are dying. They are the OPPOSITE of LIFE. Get it? Life grows brilliantly, rapidly, sweetly and blissfully. Samadhi Grace. It is NOT an aspect of Sai or any of his foul little snots that only get enjoyment from being demonically cruel. It’s their sadistic nature that they play out for only a little while. I promise.

Little one called Usedbybaba, I admire you for your good and brilliant words. I know you speak the truth. All God's children do. Someday we won't have to put up with these creeps and anymore of their insanely boring and crazy crap. I'm really looking forward to that day. There are so very many of us, so few of them. They actually know their defeat is nearly complete. That's why they are going crazier and crazier. So did Hitler, Napoleon... right at the end of their lives. These ugly creeps are no different. It takes God Force to stay alive and be happy during these times. That's why they truly are all IMPOTENT and dying. They all are losing their grip everywhere all over our earth. Yeah. The only things they have left are their mean mouths that spew out wretched and twisted evil. Beat them to crap or ignore them, it doesn't matter. They are all rotting anyway. So just enjoy your life, true Child of God. Know you are loved by all sane folks everywhere, not just in America, but also by so many warriors who live on the Other Side. Have fun. Keep smiling, beautiful one. You can always write to me or Carolyn or both, and simply ignore these nasty idiots, if you wish. Sometimes they disgust me too much to even bother answering them. They hate you for the truth you offer them. They really want your soul. That’s what they really covet. Not to worry. Aids and a host of other diseases are taking so many of these diabolical nuts out. Isn’t that just righteously perfect? Hurrah! Don’t you just love Mother Earth? Take care, my friend. Write us soon if you want. You are always welcome in our lives and in our hearts. We love you as our friend.

Edited by author 10-31-2006 04:20 AM
/m866

Barbara, please get some help from your local shrink. I've seen your ridiculous, long-winded, condesending (reminds me of Dadlani the jesus sex fetishist and his never-ending diatribes) rantings and you need help. You also need to learn to mind your own business.

Don't you people have anything better to do than to go around insulting people in the name of God? Really, I don't think this is quite what Jesus had in mind. If God is so all powerful I think you should have more faith in His abilities.

THURSDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2006
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REAL PEOPLE
Ronnie Thomas
rthomas@decaturdaily.com
  
DAILY Photo by Jonathan Palmer
Dr. Laj Utreja has traveled the globe ‘in search of truth.’
Going on a global spiritual journey
Madison man’s experiences ‘in search of truth’ inspiration for book


MADISON — Autumn leaves twist in a mild breeze and drift to the ground as Dr. Laj Utreja relaxes on the deck of his Veranda Drive home here and contemplates life.

A Hindu born in New Delhi, he speaks of turning-point travels, such as his arrival in the United States in 1968. He enrolled in engineering graduate studies at the University of Minnesota at Minneapolis-St. Paul after receiving offers from several schools.

“Minnesota offered the best assistantship,” he said. “The snow and cold? If you come as a student, you’ll like anything, snowmobiling and tobogganing.”

As overwhelming as coming to America might seem, Utreja’s most incredible journeys came during a three-year period following his brother’s death of a brain tumor in May 1999.

He says the loss started him on a path that changed his life, motivating him to travel to many places, all “in search for truth,” and to write a book, “Who Are We?” on reincarnation and the law of karma.

Utreja, 60, whose wife, Dr. Monita Soni, is a pathologist at Parkway Medical Center, attended self-realization fellowships at temples throughout the Los Angeles area. Because of his brother’s “great faith” in Sri Sathya Sai Baba, he returned to his native country, traveling to Puttaparthi, India, about 1,200 miles south of New Delhi, the birthplace of Sai Baba. It was there, Utreja said, that he encountered “a state of bliss as I have never experienced before.”

Baba, whose teachings are based on truth, righteousness, peace, universal love and non violence, is the most colorful and multifaceted prophet modern India has produced. Followers believe him to be — and Utreja concurs — the incarnation of Shiva Shatki, who proclaims life and death principles, and the potency of God.

Utreja said that as Baba, 79, walked the aisles of Prashanti Nilayam, which means “the abode of peace,” he looked at him “in total awe, mesmerized by his presence. He produces an ash called vibhuti, which means glory of God, in his bare hands.

“The first time I saw him do it was from a distance,” Utreja said. “The second time, nearer to me on another side of the aisle, a man asked for vibhuti, and I saw it clearly. He rubs his hands together, then pours out the ash from his right hand.”

Utreja said he was among about 5,000 people in the audience, composed of people of all faiths, including Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and Muslims. Over a million people gather there each year on Baba’s birthday Nov. 23.

His travels included visiting shrines in the Himalayas. He made his final trip in preparation for the book in June 2002, to the holy mountain of Mount Kailash in Tibet. He describes in the book the reincarnation he got at the end of the journey.

Utreja, who has lived in the Huntsville area 30 years, said, “There is no doubt in my mind that we reappear over and over again. When we hurt people, we momentarily forget that hurt can come back to us.”

He said that if “we see others do bad things, but yet have a good life, we are seeing them in a finite duration of time, knowing that no one can go back (in the end) and be one with God without paying the consequences of all actions. We don’t awake until something bad happens to us or unless we are in a situation of conflicts. Otherwise, life is rosy. It is only when we are deprived of health, wealth or happiness that we begin to question.”

Utreja noted that we say “God is just. Will we believe in a God who is not just? A bad guy seemingly gets away unpunished. We shortsight God. We did not see what (God) did to him. He will do justice in his own time.

“But if I do good to you, somewhere in your psyche it is deposited, and you’ll return it to me. When we have an upper hand, when we are intoxicated by power and wealth, we forget about all this.”

Utreja also pointed to another slogan, imprinted on our money, “In God We Trust.” But, he asks if we really trust him, because “if we do, we’ll be good to everyone in a system in which we will not have created classes.”

Utreja claims that “a true scientist cannot prove God doesn’t exist. If there is manifestation, there has to be a cause and that cause is beyond human capacity. And that is why we believe in an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent God. That is only reasonable. It’s the cause and effect principal. That’s when the law of karma comes into play. You reap the consequences of your karma.”

He added, “We all are believers, philosophers and scientists because we believe, we reason and we observe.”

Utreja, who earned a Ph.D. in mechanical engineering at The University of Alabama at Huntsville, taught for about 10 years as adjunct professor in the department of mechanical engineering and the department of foreign languages and literature. He now teaches two courses at UAH in continuing education, one on karma and destiny and one on and stress management.

In 2001, he sold his company, Native American Services, which supported NASA and the Marshall Space Flight Center. Three years ago, he founded the Institute of Spiritual Healing, where he teaches the correct way to breathe and meditate.

Copies of “Who Are We?” are available online at www.amazon.com or at www.barnesandnoble.com.

Utreja will follow his first work with “Where Are We Coming From?” and “What Is Our Purpose?”

Ronnie Thomas
DAILY Staff Writer

Hey Lisa .Shut your trap and stop talking about some old man.You seem to have a liking for old men like Baba. You and your kuthey ki bachchey gay friends desereve to be devotees of the evil incarnate baba the bastard.

Edited by author 10-31-2006 04:52 AM
/m868

Usedbybaba aka anand, grow up already. You are making Hindus look dumb and giving the white supremacists ammo. And lay off the drugs and/or alcohol you are obviously on, it's rotting your brain. What little there is left of it.

October 28th 11:30 am - Sathya Sai Baba's Magic for Harlem Ambassador

"Forbes the Advance ambassador for Harlem Globetrotters who are scheduled to visit South India in November says he is stunned by Baba's Intuitive powers and the Significant little gifts that he gave while he called on him.

"He asked me how many children i had and i replied four," recalled Forbes of his first encounter with Baba. "Not five," queried baba and forbes asserted he had only four. Ruminating on the incident later, Forbes realised his wife had a miscarriage during her first delivery. There were more surprises in store for the Harlem icon. "He asked me if i was interested in rings. I thought it was the basketball ring. He just lifted his hand, folded the palm opened it , took a diamond ring out of thin air and said, 'give this to your wife.' She had in fact lost her ring two weeks back and i was reall