QuickTopic (SM) free message boards QuickTopic (SM) free message boards
Skip to Messages
  Sign In to access your topic list  |New Topic |My Topics|Profile
Upgrade to Pro   Customize, show pictures, add an intro, and more:   QuickTopic Pro...and check out QuickThreadSM
Topic: Sathya Sai Baba 2005: Who Is He?
Printer-Friendly Page
   << 1385-1400  1369-1384 of 2980  1353-1368 >>
Who | When
Messagessort recent-bottom    (not accepting new messages)
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1384
11-29-2006 09:01 PM ET (US)

The Truth About Vir Sanghvi



Vir Sanghvi Menu (click on a link to go to relevant section):
Introduction To The Indian Journalist Vir Sanghvi
Vir Sanghvi's "Counterpoint" Columnist Article
Did Sathya Sai Baba Just Celebrate His 80th Birthday?
Did Sathya Sai Baba Engage In Questionable Behavior With "little boys"?
Are The Homosexual Allegations "too numerous to dispute"?
Is There A List Of Western Complainants That Run "into triple figures"?
Can All Of Sathya Sai Baba's Miracles Easily Be Performed By Conjurors?
In Conclusion

Introduction To The Indian Journalist Vir Sanghvi:
Return To Menu

Vir Sanghvi is an Indian journalist who is a staunch critic of Sathya Sai Baba. He is currently the editorial director for the Hindustan Times (which may explain why they almost exclusively report negative information about Sathya Sai Baba), former editor for Sunday, former consulting editor for Anada Bazaar Patrika, former editor for Imprint, founder-editor for Bombay Magazine and currently writes a Counterpoint weekly column in the Hindusan Times. Vir Sanghvi was allegedly educated at Mayo College, Ajmer and Oxford University, is reputed as being one of the youngest editors in India and is also a television personality.

Don't let all of these credentials fool you. Vir Sanghvi is willing to compromise his integrity and reputation as a journalist by resorting to disrespectable research, bias and sensationalistic propaganda to promote his views against Sathya Sai Baba.

Vir Sanghvi's "Counterpoint" Columnist Article:
Return To Menu

On November 25th 2006, Vir Sanghvi wrote a Counterpoint columnist article in the Hindustan Times entitled "The Truth About Sathya Sai Baba". Not only did Vir Sanghvi not know that Sathya Sai Baba turned 81 (he claimed Baba turned 80), he admitted that he is "not big on Sathya Sai Baba" and referred to him as the "old boy".

In his Counterpoint article, Vir Sanghvi made the following inaccurate claims about Sathya Sai Baba:
  1. Sathya Sai Baba just celebrated his 80'th birthday.
  2. There is a "sordid controversy" about Sathya Sai Baba engaging in questionable behavior with "little boys".
  3. The homosexual allegations against Sathya Sai Baba are "too numerous to dispute".
  4. That the list of Western complainants runs "into triple figures".
  5. All of Sathya Sai Baba's miracles can easily be performed by conjurors.


Did Sathya Sai Baba Just Celebrate His 80th Birthday?
Return To Menu

The answer is "no". Sathya Sai Baba just celebrated his 81st birthday. Nice double-checking there, Mr. Vir Sanghvi.

Did Sathya Sai Baba Engage In Questionable Behavior With "little boys"?
Return To Menu

Those opposing Sathya Sai Baba wage an unremitting smear campaign against him that accuses him of "serial pedophilia" and the sexual abuse of "boys" and "children". These allegations are fallacious, unsustantiated and wholly untrue. There are no testimonies from "boys", "children" or parents of children that support the erroneous claim that Sathya Sai Baba is a pedophile who engaged in sexual interactions with children. To date, there are no court cases, police complaints, affidavits, public grievances or lawsuits from any parent alleging that Sathya Sai Baba sexually abused his/her child. Not even one single legitimate complaint. Sathya Sai Baba has never been charged with any crime, has never been convicted of any crime and has never had even one single complaint lodged against him, first-hand, by any alleged victim (child, teenager, parent or adult) in India.

Vir Sanghvi cannot cite even one single police complaint or court case that supports his erroneous claim that Sathya Sai Baba engaged in questionable behavior with "little kids". One would think that a journalist of Vir Sanghvi's calibre would have the basic integrity to research and confirm allegations before publishing unsupported opinions, speculations and conspriacy theories in the Hindustan Times. To date, neither Vir Sanghvi or anyone else have been able to confirm even one single case where Sathya Sai Baba engaged in questionable behavior with "little kids".

Are The Homosexual Allegations "too numerous to dispute"?
Return To Menu

To support his claim that the homosexual abuse allegations against Sathya Sai Baba are "too numerous to dispute", Vir Sanghvi suggested that one enter "Sathya Sai Baba" and "homosexuality" into a Google search. Because there are almost 18,000 returns, Vir Sanghvi concluded that these allegations are "too numerous to dispute" and some of these allegations must be true. What kind of journalist bases facts and figures on Google results? This is not only shabby research, it is poor journalism.

For example, enter "George Bush" and "homosexuality" into a Google search and you will get an astounding 1,250,000 (plus) returns: View Results. Enter "Jesus" and "homosexuality" into a Google search and you will get an astounding 1,300,000 (plus) returns: View Results. Enter "Mother Teresa" and "homosexuality" into a Google search and you will get 330,000 (plus) returns: View Results. Using Vir Sanghvi's lamentable logic, one must conclude that some of these results are indicative that George Bush, Jesus and Mother Teresa engaged in acts of homosexuality. What kind of journalist uses this type of propaganda as "evidence" against others? In my opinion, the only type of journalists who engage in this type of low-class propaganda are tabloid journalists who care less for facts and care more for sensationalism and fiction.

Furthermore, enter "Vir Sanghvi" and "homosexuality" into a Google search: View The 500+ Results. Enter "Vir Sanghvi" and "stupid" into a Google search: View The 1,300+ Results. Enter "Vir Sanghvi" and "offensive" into a Goolge search: View The 1,200+ Results. Enter "Vir Sanghvi" and "corrupt" into a Google search: View The 1,000+ Results. Enter "Vir Sanghvi" and "bias" into a Google search: View The 1,100+ Results.

Since Vir Sanghvi is not an internationally revered guru like Sathya Sai Baba (who has millions of followers), these results are high for one person. Are we to conclude that Mr. Sanghvi engaged in acts of "homosexuality" and that he is "stupid", "corrupt", "biased" and "offensive" based on Google's results? Using Sanghvi's standard, the answer is "yes". After all this is the standard and "evidence" that he attempted to use against Sathya Sai Baba. Why can't others use the same standard against Mr. Sanghvi?

For those who are not gullible, naive or sensationalists, Google's results are not indicative of guilt, evidence, complaints, behavior or anything else for that matter. Google's results simply return webpages (many duplicates) with all possible combinations of keywords located on any given webpage. This explains the Google results obtained for George Bush, Jesus and Mother Teresa. This also explains why Vir Sanghvi had 500+ Google results when his name was combined with the word "homosexuality".

Is There A List Of Western Complainants That Run "into triple figures"?
Return To Menu

I am not aware of any list composed of Westerner complainants that "runs into triple figures". Where did Vir Sanghvi obtain this information from?

On the sites run by ex-devotees of Sathya Sai Baba, they provide a list of alleged sexual abuse victims. The list is composed of sixteen names (many are fake names). That's it. See For Yourself. All of these alleged victims (except one 16 year old) are adults 18 to 31 years of age. No "little boys" are listed. Perhaps Mr. Sanghvi could inform us as to which reliable source he viewed to support his claim that there is a "list of complainants" that runs "into triple figures" (for Westerners only)?

It is my strong suspicion that Vir Sanghvi is either referring to the bogus online-petition against Sathya Sai Baba on SaiPetition.net (in which anyone can submit multiple fake entries under multiple fake names) or he is referring to Robert Priddy's bogus list of "Prominent Ex-Devotees Of Sai Baba" (a majority who were never "fondled" by Sathya Sai Baba and whose names were mostly lifted from the bogus online-petition website). Why is it that a notable journalist like Vir Sanghvi cannot back up his claims with verifiable and reliable sources? Are these the low standards that Vir Sanghvi must utilize in order to promote his Anti-Sai bias and poorly-constructed arguments in the Hindustan Times? Sadly, this appears to be the case.

Can All Of Sathya Sai Baba's Miracles Easily Be Performed By Conjurors?
Return To Menu

Mr. Sanghvi claimed that "every single one" of Sathya Sai Baba's miracles can be easily performed by even "moderately-talented conjurors". Although it is true that any alleged materialization that Sathya Sai Baba performs will be inextricably tied to doubt, I have yet to see any "conjuror" who can heal people from incurable diseases, appear to people all around the world (in dreams, visions and physical form) and manifest vibuthi, amrita, kumkum, tumeric, holy water, mishri, coins, statues of gods and goddesses, siva lingams, crystals, gems, fragrances, flowers, lights, and various other substances on the altars of devotees all around the world and in the privacy of their own homes (like Sathya Sai Baba is reputed as doing).

There are literally thousands of such stories and first-hand accounts. Even some ex-devotees (to this day) still attest to Sathya Sai Baba's paranormal abilities.

The following links show a small sampling of manifestations and materializations typically associated with Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. These manifestations occur in the privacy of devotee's homes all around the world, thousands of miles away from Sathya Sai Baba's physical form. Any "conjuror" up to duplicating these alleged miracles?:

In Conclusion:
Return To Menu

I think Mr. Vir Sanghvi owes Sathya Sai Baba an apology and should immediately retract his erroneous, inaccurate and dishonest comments until a time comes when he can factually document his current speculations and assumptions with verifiable, accurate and truthful data from reliable and reputable sources. The style of Vir Sanghvi's article is emotional, as opposed to objective. This behavior is not what one would expect from the editorial director of the Hindustan Times. Or is it?

The internet version of Vir Sanghvi's article allows for people to submit responses. Although several responses (pro and con) were published, mine was not, hence this webpage. Just more proof of the suppression and dictator-like control weilded by Vir Sanghvi on the Hindustan Times and his abject failure to accept responsiblity for his blind guesswork, second-rate research, overemotionalism and ludicrous claims against Sathya Sai Baba.

Return To Menu
AngelicPerson was signed in when posted  1383
11-29-2006 08:27 PM ET (US)
usedbybaba what's with this bikerbabes postings of yours?
this is not a porn forum.
AngelicPerson was signed in when posted  1382
11-29-2006 08:26 PM ET (US)
i noticed rudeness from rye,how rude.
And Barbra keeps responding to herself as Carolyn.Wacko.
usedbybaba  1381
11-29-2006 08:18 PM ET (US)
Joe aka sexybikerbabes060" EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED

 HAS SENT THIS MESSAGE TO sathyasaibaba2 · Sathya Sai Baba DISCUSSION CLUB IN YAHOO.ONLY YOU AND YOUR BABA WILL ENJOY THESE POSTS

Cute Amateur Biker Babes looking for playmate! Check their profiles here:
http://www.bestbikerclub.com/bikerpro/sexybikerbabes.htm"

HE AND HIS MERCENARY DEVOTESS WANT TO SAVE HIM BY CALLING ME A LIAR.
BUT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT HE DID THIS TO DISRUPT THE DISCUSSION,BUT GOT CAUGHT.
___EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED
usedbybaba  1380
11-29-2006 08:13 PM ET (US)
Lisa:You seem to conveniently forget it was your newest best pal usedbybaba who claimed he gave Baba two blow jobs when he was 19 years old because he claimed he thought giving God blow jobs would purify him (no kidding, usedbybaba actually stated this himself)!

Pedo lisa,I told you nothing.I said I was molested and I was compelled to give a blow job, but you lie as though you know the sequence. When he did the oil thing i thought he was divine and he was doing it for some reason,but every time he made me do anything,he declared that he was purifying me and I was confused but did not accept it. For that matter it was this pressure that made me come out as an Anti baba. So like a typical Pedophile worshipper.I have never told you that I did the blow job because I thought God needed one.AS USUAL YOU GLANCE THROUGH PEOPLE'S MAILS AND POUR SHIT THROUGH YOUR MOUTH.
I was never clear about the sequence Pedolisa.So don't start your diinformation campaign sick one.
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1379
11-29-2006 07:37 PM ET (US)
Sai Baba has publicly admitted in his 81st birthday discourse that he has been surrounded by little boys since his childhood. Several years ago he unwittingly ADMITTED in public that he sleeps with upto FOUR boys in his bedroom every night, with the door locked from inside. Gee, now what's up with that?

Oh yeah, and looks like Sai Baba/Kasturi/Some Other Guy has been caught out in ANOTHER lie! Now Sai Baba says that his mother's name was not Easwaramma, but that it was a "nickname" given by his grandfather Kondama Raju. Ha ha ha ha. This is waiting to be exposed because this is yet another lie/discrepancy.

I still haven't read the full discourse yet, just skimmed through it, but I also noticed the part where Sai Baba publicly praised a certain Ram Setty for his donation of 40 crores to Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust. Wow!

On other news, your friend Andy Rye is now talking about putting cactii up womens' "cunts". The same guy who refers to black people as "nigger slaves of white people" and that Jews are "arseholes". You freaks all like to hang out with each other and pat each other's backs, don't you? :-)
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1378
11-29-2006 03:49 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-17-2007 05:18 AM
/m1359

On the contrary, girly gay Dadlani with a jesus porn fetish (/m272), I posted a response to the Hindustan site a few days ago through the counterpoint addy and the feedback link today. Let's see if your ignorant friends can face the music or if they will censor rebuttals like you cowards so often do.

True to form, my rebuttal was censored. So what is new?
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1377
11-29-2006 03:35 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-04-2008 03:53 AM
/m1374

Sanjay, why are you stalking Sai Baba and projecting your own OBVIOUS homosexual tendencies onto him? Not ONE Indian child has claimed anything about Sai Baba. NOT ONE!

You seem to conveniently forget it was your newest best pal usedbybaba who claimed he gave Baba two blow jobs when he was 19 years old because he "thought giving God blow jobs would purify him" (no kidding, usedbybaba actually stated this himself)!

I'm still waiting for used buddy's explanation as to why he thought Sai Baba was God and why God needs to have sex in order to purify others! Suddenly usedbybaba is mum about his experiences with Sai Baba whereas before he was so eager to talk.

Talk about "true believers." We are supposed to believe this kind of perverted tosh from usedbybaba while he cowardly hides behind numerous pseudonyms and calls anyone who doesn't believe his ridiculous stories a pedophile.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1376
11-29-2006 02:30 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-29-2006 03:39 AM
/m1371

Sanjay YOU are a FREAK (look in the mirror, hypocrite)!!! YOU were the one caught with your pants down on alt.sex.jesus porn sites. You were the one caught with the misogynist streetbitches blog, posting pics of women you stalked with your videocam and posted their pics along with disgusting statements such as "They want it" and other trash. YOU were the one caught talking like a pervert on your killuminati blog. YOU and ONLY YOU, dumbo. The FACTS and documentation DO NOT LIE. Only YOU lie Dadlani. ONLY YOU!!!

Pathetic that you perverts (/m272, /m1099) have the gall to talk about anyone else.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1375
11-29-2006 01:46 AM ET (US)
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1374
11-29-2006 01:35 AM ET (US)

"In this manner, I was always surrounded by boys right from My childhood."

Source: Sathya Sai Baba's 81st Birthday discourse

:-) He tells the truth for once.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  1373
11-29-2006 01:11 AM ET (US)
How funny watching Sanjay (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") throw his hissing, shrieking, girly hissy fits!

Sanjay, the word is out that you worship Pink, Girly And Gay Marble Deities As God Incarnate! Nothing you say is going to change this fact, PinkBoy. lol

Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1372
11-29-2006 12:30 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-29-2006 12:31 AM
"Don't let Sanjay the pathological liar fool you. According to his own statements referenced on saisathyasai.com and the sanjaydadlaniexposed blog, Sanjay out of his OWN mouth says he requested pics claiming he was working for the IWF as a porn investigator!"

Don't let Lisa De Witt the intellectually dishonest pathological liar fool you. Desperate dimwits like her can only use extracts from a false confession to back up their points. I have never requested anything and you know it. On the other hand, Sai Baba your faggot guru has been raping children for decades and tearing their anuses.

"Too funny that Sanjay has to keep lying and trying to cover his numerous lies. Sanjay, tell us why you lost your computer after I made this info about your jesus porn posts public in 2003."

What nonsense? I have never "lost" my computer. More lies from the faggot-worshipper and child-anus-ripper-loving Lisa De Witt.

"I said the ARTICLES are mediocre dumbo. God it is such a drudge dealing with such a constant retard who has to have EVERYTHING explained to him."

Don't talk rubbish, Lisa. For a publication to publish "mediocre" articles effectively makes them mediocre publications. Stop using weasel words, lol. Face it, the big guns can see the truth all for themselves, and your publicity drives consist of minor and backwoods local publications which send you into a freakspin over nothing. Now a bigshot Indian newspaper inaugurated by Mahatma Gandhi himself has published a scathing editorial about your invalid and tranny guru. Smell that coffee. :-)
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1371
11-29-2006 12:24 AM ET (US)
/m1367:

"Sanjay (aka "Sai Baba Exposed"), what's the problem? Are you failing to understand that my posts are entirely relevant to Sathya Sai Baba? You are accusing Sathya Sai Baba of being a "gay" and "girly" God. By making this attack, you are presenting yourself as one who condemns "gay" and "girly" Gods. What is ironic about this is that you worship "gay" and "girly" marble deities as God Incarnate! By pointing this out, your hypocrisy against Sathya Sai Baba is exposed."

Not a chance in hell, tranny-lover. This only displays your own distortions, blasphemy and deflection about a very ominous topic: Sai Baba's documented effeminacy, androgyny and transvestism. Funny how you have nothing at all to say (besides your nonsensical dribblings about using devotee sources) about this point, and the other points. You exposed yourself as an intellecually dishonest LIAR when you dismissed them as "old non-facts2 when they are nothing of the sort. What a surprise, your intellectual dishonesty has been documented all over the place everywhere else.

What's the problem, Gerald? Are you embarrassed that Sai Baba has been an effeminate faggot since a small child, and that you worship this guy? Your guru is a proven girly gay, you'll just have to face it. Who the heck cares about you anyway, nobody wants to know what your thoughts and feelings are. It's just interesting to see how brainwashed and dumb mentalities such as yours respond to these huge exposures and sensational revelations that keep on coming wave after wave. And there's more to come too. :-)

Oh, and by the way, get lost. You are not a Sai devotee and you are not a representative of Sathya Sai Baba. Sai devotees are generally a bunch of nice folks as I was reminded last week, and you are a sick, slanderous retarded lying pervert. Sai Baba himself is crying all day because he is thoroughly ashamed that he has "humans" like you to sully his name. Face it, that's all you're doing isn't it? Guruphiliac Jody Radzik told you the same thing:

"You guys are FREAKS! And what you aren't realizing is that with every rebuttal and defense, you just bring more people to know about the sins of the Babaster.

It'd be much better to just let it ride, at least as far as SSB's PR is concerned. To be constantly on the offensive in defense of your guru is all the indictment one needs to hear to know there's something up with the guy."

You're so unbelievably thick that these words ring true today as it did then Did you listen? No, you promptly created an attack-page against Jody. It's just too bad that people like you have been well-described in Vedic proverbs; you are an upturned pot. And more than that: upadesho hi murkhanam, prakopaya na shantaye. Ityalam.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  1370
11-29-2006 12:14 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-04-2008 03:49 AM
/m1369

Don't let Sanjay the pathological liar fool you. According to his own statements referenced on saisathyasai.com and the sanjaydadlaniexposed blog, Sanjay out of his OWN mouth says he requested pics claiming he was working for the IWF as a porn investigator (/m272)! I am a direct witness to his statements because I was the one who found his posts on the sex sites and began questioning him about them in early 2003.

Too funny that Sanjay has to keep lying and trying to cover his numerous lies.

Sanjay, tell us why you lost your computer after I made this info about your jesus porn posts public in 2003.

I said the ARTICLES are mediocre dumbo. God it is such a drudge dealing with such a constant retard who has to have EVERYTHING explained to him.
Sai Baba EXPOSED!Person was signed in when posted  1369
11-29-2006 12:07 AM ET (US)
Again this lie. I have already asked for proof that I "requested" these pictures, and none was given. The posts themselves do not speak about pictures of any sort (never mind requesting them) but Lisa/Gerald duplicitously use extracts from my false confession as "proof". LOL.

Lisa, I don't have a problem with you or Gerald having blogs. I have a problem with Gerald desperately trying to portray himself as a "neutral observer" when he is upto his eyeballs in his obvious devotion and love for Sai Baba. Why does he want to copy me and have free blogs when he has fully-functioning websites of his own?

And secondly, you are a liar. Your blog has been operational since 2004, not "months" ago. Want to talk about homosexual fixations? Talk to Gerald about why he is following me everywhere all over the Internet in all the forums that I frequent and keeping records of everything I've said since 1998. Sick or what? What a pity that Gerald was not born a woman, you two could have been a match made in heaven! :-)

"And Sanjay, I'm not trying to use the media to push an agenda like you crooked bozos are. I think it's funny that you keep bragging about such mediocre articles that have accomplished NOTHING in terms of "getting Sai Baba." All you've done is help brainwash a few dummies (who can't even get Baba's age correct!) like yourself who are too lazy and dishonest to look a little deeper."

Mediocre? Of course, the Daily Telegraph is a mediocre newspaper. The Hindustan Time is mediocre. The Australian Age is mediocre. The Ottawa Times is mediocre. The Guardian is mediocre. The BBC is mediocre. Everything that reports on Sai Baba in a negative way is mediocre according to brainwashed nitwits like you.

And when "positive" articles about Sai Baba are published in minor and backwoods newspaper all about how some backwoods Sai center and their social activites, you guys freak out and post it on RadioSai! Wassamatter, homo-lovers? Are you jealous that the big-gun newspapers don't think much of your tiny little cult? I wonder why. :-)
RSS link What's this?
   << 1385-1400  1369-1384 of 2980  1353-1368 >>
QuickTopicSM message boards
Over 200,000 topics served
Learn more Frequently asked questions  Acknowledgements
What they're saying about QuickTopic
 Questions, comments, or suggestions? Contact Us
Read our use policy before beginning. We value your privacy; please read our privacy statement.
Copyright ©1999-2008 Internicity Inc. All rights reserved.