This needs to be repeated, from Al J. Venter

I think I will be an eye opener to the blinds of this forum(Such as Sandy Burger)

Oh, and I suggest that you read about the African American male who was hired by the bloody regime in Tehran and killed Tabatabai in Washinton. Tabatabai was a prominent opponent of the terrorist regime of Iran.

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?020805fa_fact

Edited by author 08-23-2005 02:47 PM

CAN WE TRUST THE MUSLIMS?

When considering Iran's WMD, never mind the distractions of the "I hate George Bush" crowd, there's a bigger problem.

From Antidote to Jihad blog

"Can the world trust Muslims?"

"What are the problems when you have Muslim friends? Neighbors? Muslim employees? What happens if you have a Muslim doctor? What if your employer is a Muslim? What then? Muslim allies? Muslim informants? What if you are a student and your teacher is a Muslim? What can you believe in that classroom? What can be gained by interrogating Muslims prisoners?"

"Al-taqiyya and dissimulation are words used for the Muslim practice of blatantly lying to infidels (non-Muslims)."

"My sources say al-taqiyya is prescribed in the Koran, and to be a good Muslim, following the scripture of al-taqiyya gets you into heaven by deceiving infidels."

"There are several discussions on al-taqiyya, try these:"

Al-Taqiyya is used universally by all Islamists http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/18553

Identifying Moderate Muslims http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2226

Antidote to Jihad - comments welcome
http://vikingphoenix.com/blog/antidote/antidote.html

REMEMBER 911 --- http://vikingphoenix.com/photos/911-2003/911-2003-1.html

Iran threatens to end nuclear spot-checks
Sept. 25, 2005 7:50 A.M. PDT
Reuters by Parisa Hafezi

Iran threatened on Sunday to halt spot checks of its nuclear sites after the U.N. watchdog passed a resolution requiring Tehran to be reported to the Security Council over its atomic plans.

Some commentators in the Islamic country expressed surprise over how some countries that had voiced support for its nuclear stance had voted at Saturday's meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

China, Russia and South Africa, which had supported Iran, abstained from the vote, while India surprised all by voting for the resolution against traditional ally Iran and backing fellow nuclear powers, the United States, France and Britain.

Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki rejected as illegal the resolution that called on Iran to suspend uranium enrichment-related activities until it proves they are peaceful and resume talks with France, Britain and Germany.

He said now Iran had no reason to implement the Additional Protocol to the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) that allows the U.N. to make spot checks of nuclear facilities. The protocol has not yet been ratified by parliament.

"Iran has no legal commitment to continue implementation of the Additional Protocol," ISNA quoted Mottaki as saying. "The resolution is illegal, illogical and politically motivated."

Mottaki predicted a rough ride at the next IAEA board of governors meeting on November, when Iran's case could be referred to the Security Council.

"We will use all diplomatic measures to preserve our right (to have nuclear technology)," he told ISNA student news agency.

Iran denies it is seeking atomic bombs and says its nuclear program is only for generating electricity. But it concealed its atomic fuel program from the IAEA for 18 years.

Mottaki said Iran had no intention to pull out of the NPT if the Islamic Republic falls foul of the Security Council.

Iran had expected stronger backing at the IAEA.

"Overestimating some countries verbal support and making a fuss over it was a mistake. It has imposed huge costs on Iran," said the daily Aftab-e Yazd.

RUSSIA DIPLOMATIC

Russia, which is helping Iran build a nuclear power station, was diplomatic in its assessment, saying it hoped its abstention showed dissatisfaction with some "disputable variants on settling the situation," but that the resolution would lead to further talks to settle questions over Iran's nuclear work.

"Russia abstained from voting together with China, Brazil, Mexico, South Africa and a group of other countries. Our decision was prompted by the fact that the resolution contains ambiguous assessments and disputable variants on settling the situation," the Foreign Ministry said in a statement on Sunday.

"We view the resolution as a signal for the continuation and intensification of IAEA cooperation with Iran for the clarification of the remaining questions in relation to Tehran's nuclear program.

South Africa said it regretted the division and lack of time given to reaching a consensus.

India denied taking sides when it voted in favor.

"It should be noted that several non-aligned and developing countries apart from India, have also voted in favor of the resolution," the Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

Energy-hungry India is looking to Iran for gas supplies through a proposed $7-8 billion pipeline that will go through Pakistan. U.S. officials, who suspect Iran of covertly building nuclear weapons, had disapproved of the project.

The United Nations should investigate to see if Iran is developing nuclear weapons.

Edited by author 01-02-2006 09:34 PM
rphillipson4581 wrote in /m72 10-08-2005 12:43 PM ET (US)

> The United Nations should investigate to see if Iran is
> developing nuclear weapons.

Oh! That would be wonderful. Then the United Nations can churn out two dozen resolutions over 10-years, and then we can have a repeat scenario of (1) a U.S. President with the cojones of George W. Bush sends in U.S. troops to kick the shit out of Iran; and (2) a coalition of university professors, union officials, Democratic Party leaders, Hollywood actors, moronic kids adorned with tattoos and festooned with body piercings, and other street thugs guided by MoveOn.org, Socialist Workers' Party, etc., can then mobilize and make fools of themselves and half the American public.

Time magazine, Iran's Nuclear Threat
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,430649,00.html

The Iranians are pushing hard to get the bomb, plus they are talking war, it's almost time for Bush to order air strikes on Iran's nuclear labs.

Edited by author 01-12-2006 01:07 PM
Europeans Say Iran Talks Reach 'Dead End' Yes, the Europeans will talk and talk and talk and the U.N. will issue a dozen resolutions, and in the end, strong men with guns will have to go to Iran and put an end to the threat, you will not find strong men in the Bush hating street mobs that endlessly protest the war on terrorism, trying to live out the fantasies of their 1960s parents.

Europeans Say Iran Talks Reach 'Dead End'

GEIR MOULSON, Associated Press Writer

January 12, 2006, 8:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time

The British, French and German foreign ministers said Thursday that negotiations with Iran over its nuclear program had reached a "dead end" and the Islamic republic should be referred to the U.N. Security Council.

The ministers did not specify what action should be taken by the Security Council, which could impose sanctions. They called for a special session of the International Atomic Energy Agency to decide the referral.

The action came two days after Iran broke U.N. seals at a uranium enrichment plant and said it was resuming nuclear research after a two-year freeze.

Enriched uranium can be used as a fuel for both nuclear energy and nuclear weapons. Iran says its nuclear program is only for fuel.

In a joint statement, the diplomats cited Iran's "documented record of concealment and deception" and charged that its government seems "intent on turning its back on better relations with the international community."

"From our point of view, the time has come for the U.N. Security Council to become involved," German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said after meeting with his French and British counterparts and the European Union's foreign policy chief, Javier Solana.

The Bush administration, meanwhile, arranged to have Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns go to Britain, France and Germany next week to coordinate strategy. Burns also will hold talks in India, said a senior U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the State Department was not ready to issue a formal statement.

While Burns will be consulting in Europe, Solana plans to be in Washington to coordinate with Bush administration officials.

Steinmeier said the three countries would inform the board "that our talks with Iran have reached a dead end."

Solana said the EU and national governments were left with no choice but to call for Iran's referral. But he would not rule out a new round of negotiations with Tehran.

Steinmeier stressed that the Europeans remain ready to solve the problem "diplomatically, multilaterally and by peaceful means."

Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has vowed to press ahead with a nuclear program that Iran says is designed to produce civilian energy.

"Unfortunately, a group of bullies allows itself to deprive nations of their legal and natural rights," he said Wednesday. "I tell those superpowers that, with strength and prudence, Iran will pave the way to achieving peaceful nuclear energy.

Iran's move increased worries in the United States and other Western countries that Iran intends to produce nuclear weapons, while Russia, a longtime Iran ally, indicated it could reverse its opposition to bringing Tehran before the Security Council, which could impose sanctions.

Russia and China, both members of the IAEA board that would have to approve referring Iran to the Security Council, have previously opposed the idea.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Russia, the United States, the European Union and China would discuss the issue in London next week.

He told Ekho Moskvy radio that Iran's latest move did not violate international law — but also said that Moscow did not exclude the possibility of turning the Iranian dossier over to the Security Council.

"It causes concern that Iran is opting out of its moratorium in the absence of answers to questions, serious questions" from the IAEA, Lavrov said. "Our main task is to persuade Tehran through joint efforts to return to the moratorium."

China on Thursday urged more talks, without saying whether it would back taking Tehran to the Security Council.

China "hopes that all parties concerned can exercise restraint and resolve this within the IAEA framework and through peaceful negotiations," Foreign Ministry spokesman Kong Quan said in Beijing. "We firmly believe this serves the interests of all parties concerned."
___

Associated Press reporters Paul Ames in Brussels, Belgium, and Barry Schweid in Washington contributed to this report.

You have to calculate that the I hate George Bush people here at -- http://www.quicktopic.com/28/H/vAGmYRyWRC7h -- will also demand endless U.N. inspections in Iran while the world Islamo-fascist terrorist movement remains free to build the ultimate terrorist bombs.

Elham Foroutan a 19-year-old female Iranian journalist, Elham Foroutan, risks the death penalty for a satirical article in which she compares the Islamic revolution in Iran to the AIDS virus.

In the piece, Foroutan compares the Islamic revolution to the spread of the AIDS virus, saying that it "arrived in Iran in 1979", the year of the revolution led by Ayatollah Khomeni. In the article entitled "Make the fight against AIDS public", the reformist former president of Iran, Mohammad Khatami is described as "a remedy that allowed for the diffusion of the virus," while the current president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is "the virus in the first person", while the Pasdaran, the judicial authority and the ministry of intelligence, have been defined as the "diffusion centres".

Foroutan has been accused of insulting the founder of the Islamic Republic, an act that is punishable by death. In the meantime, the ministry of culture and Islamic orientation announced the imminent closing of 70 magazines which "do not respect the values of the revolution and express the concepts contrary to the principles of Islam".
 



following article is quoted from AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL:

http://www.amnestyusa.org/news/document.do?id=ENGMDE130152006

News


AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL

Public Statement

AI Index: MDE 13/015/2006 (Public)
News Service No: 043
17 February 2006


Iran: Concern for journalist Elham Afroutan

Amnesty International is seeking urging clarification from the Iranian government regarding Iranian journalist Elham Afroutan who has been held incommunicado since 29 January 2006, amid unconfirmed reports that she may be in a coma or has died in custody. The organization said it was extremely concerned for her safety.

Elham Afroutan was arrested on 29 January together with several other journalists working for the provincial weekly newspaper Tammadon-e Hormozgan (Hormozgan's Civilization) apparently in connection with the publication of a satirical article. In all, seven journalists are believed to have been detained and since their arrest to have been incommunicado, raising fears that they could be at risk of torture and ill-treatment.

On 16 February, reports appeared in the Iranian media suggesting that Elham Afroutan was either in a coma after attempting suicide or had died in detention but, as yet, the Iranian authorities are not known to have commented officially on these reports. Amnesty International said it was vital that they did so immediately, and clarified the circumstances of Elham Afroutan's arrest and detention and her conditions and treatment in detention

The satirical article published by Tammadon-e Hormozganreportedly drew a comparison between the advent of the late Ayatollah Khomeini and Iran's Islamic Revolution in 1979 and the problem of AIDS, and suggested, scurrilously, that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad could be considered the current physical embodiment of the disease. It is said to have appeared in the newspaper's health section under the title: "Open fight against AIDS". Its publication provoked demonstrations in which the newspaper's offices were ransacked and torched. As well, the Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guidance suspended publication of the newspaper, accused those responsible for the article of violating Iran's press law and referred the case to the relevant judicial bodies for prosecution.

Amnesty International is also calling on the Iranian authorities to clarify the legal status and health of the other journalists detained along with Elham Afroutan, and to ensure that they are released immediately and unconditionally unless they are to face recognizably criminal charges and be brought to trial promptly and fairly in accordance with international fair trial standards. They should be granted immediate access to their families, to legal counsel and to any medical treatment that they require.


also quotes from:

http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=...8.0.261252316&par=0