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Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  491
12-01-2004 12:11 AM ET (US)
New month, so it's Comments migration time...
http://www.quicktopic.com/28/H/2kLydLYbL9WaB
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  490
11-30-2004 10:21 PM ET (US)
I was going to ask if there wasn't a site like that, but for Mexico, then the possible implications of such a site made me reject politely the idea.

There could be one. But I probably shouldn't go looking for it; Pat wouldn't like me searching for another man, anyway.....

*sly look* But I could use back-ups in case the relationship falls through. He's a Bush supporter, anyway.

But seriously, if I'm going to look for a site like that, it'd just be for shits and giggles. ;)

(Yes, Bush-supporters and once-Kerry-supporters can live together in harmony, for 98% of the time. The OKS just has to remind the BS not to bring up politics so often, no matter how much he wants to know what she thinks about the subject.)
Zefiel  489
11-30-2004 10:05 PM ET (US)
These wild boar have been goaded into extremely agressive!

marry a nice Canadian man..

I was going to ask if there wasn't a site like that, but for Mexico, then the possible implications of such a site made me reject politely the idea.

After being in the tropic for dang long (near 7 years) i quite love cold. i'm a polar bear.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  488
11-30-2004 09:42 PM ET (US)
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  487
11-30-2004 09:40 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-30-2004 09:41 PM
I know, Mimi, it's DEPRESSING. Yet I still cling on to this pathetic, quivering thread of hope that measures only 2x14 microns. But at least the American military leaders will... oh, hell, they'd probably bomb Germany within a week.

I'd flee to another country to avoid living on the same soil as these sphincter-suckers, but I don't have the money.

But I could always marry a nice Canadian man that can take care of the immigration costs.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  486
11-30-2004 09:32 PM ET (US)
Thanks, Steve. RUB IT IN, why dontcha?
*wraps self up in fleece*

*sniff* I really miss Aussie summers.....

As for the German investigation Fistlekits linked:
It would be great if it were feasable. But no matter what internation law says, can you REALLY see America letting its military leaders be tried by Europeans, least of all GERMANS?
The answer will be the same as for the last 4 years..
America: "*F***CK YOU, WORLD!!****"

9_9
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  485
11-30-2004 08:00 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-30-2004 08:01 PM
damn, flipflops in a camp ain't no good.


(yeah, i refresh here insanely. today work is mainly typing for customers, so i tend to get bored)
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  484
11-30-2004 07:50 PM ET (US)
I have a funny story about shoe soles melting.

Several years ago me and a couple of mates went to Bathurst for the big race, the event lasts 4 days.
We had our camp setup on top of the mountain there with our tents arranged in a semicircle around a huge bonfire.
The bonfire was kept burning 24 hours a day, cause it gets cold up there.
One night, after consuming vast quantities of alchohol and other substances, everyone was sitting around the fire. We had scabbed up several sofas for our comfort.

Well one guy was sitting on his sofa with his feet pointing towards, sorry twoards, the fire. He was wearing steel capped work boots. Looking at his feet it was obvious the soles were melting.
Someone threw a full can of beer at him to wake him up, it worked extremely well. Anyway, as soon as he awoke he started dancing around like someone had set his feet on fire. He ripped off his shoes and went for a walk on the cold grass of the cap site while we all doubled after laughing.

The next morning when we awoke, he was looking for his shoes, they could not be found. Just then someone noticed a small D shapped piece of metal, then a second one. His shoes had completely melted, only the steel toe caps remained.

He was forced to wear flip-flops the rest of the camp and earned the nickname HotFoot.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  483
11-30-2004 05:58 PM ET (US)
Steve, you remind me of when i was growing in tropical mexico. once it hit 44C and i was in a bus with a metal floor. my cheapass shoes' soles melted.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  482
11-30-2004 05:28 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-30-2004 05:29 PM
Man it is HOT down here at the moment.
Yesterday topped out at 44C or 111F.
Today is supposed to be 39C or 102F.

I might just go cook some eggs on the front driveway.

Anyone got any ice they can send down here?

Melting.

Edit: lysdexia
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  481
11-30-2004 04:08 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-30-2004 04:09 PM
Somebody pinch me! I must be dreaming!!

Wait! I'm at school... but I'm not naked. This mustn't be a dream, then!
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  480
11-30-2004 12:39 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-30-2004 12:41 PM
I just started reading the Mecha Hedgedog (hee, hee) story, and.. I couldn't go past the first few parragraphs. what'd Davey's underage ex girlfriend write in the story, anyway?

Hm, don't think anyone else is gonna read it. Lessee, synopsis of story... Anyone who doesn't want to learn of the horrors in this fanTASTic piece may ignore the rest of this post.

Amy Rose chased down by Mecha Sonic, Mecha Sonic stops himself from taking advantage of her, suddenly bleeds from his eyes and relieves himself, hooded lady (who made MS's eyes bleed and involuntarily evacuate... urgh...) takes Amy away to Floating Island where Amy meets a lady named Wildfyre who's an uber-magical person (she can make antidotes in her bloodstream by eating poisonous stuff! And they give some of her blood to an ailing Espio! And the inter-species blood transfusion kills him! Well, no.). Meanwhile, Mecha Sonic's in jail, his girlfriend believes him when he says he didn't do it, Davey goes in there and acts like he's God's macho gift to Mobius, and Phenix (MS's girlfriend) says something really awesome to Davey:

"You listen to me, Kintobor. You are not going to treat him any differently than any other prisoner. You can practice your vigilante justice on the battlefield, but in Knothole we do things by the book!" she snarled.

I like Phenix! Who wants to bet that Davey had objections to this little line?

Anyway, some old program is still in MS (I guess he's a robot of some sort), Sally meets a character named Boing who talks by vibrating or something other... and actually crawls into MS's stomach to remove a program or something... ah, geez, I'm summarizing this thing and I'm getting sick of the goddamned story again.

All right, let's speed: MS on trial, Davey's persecutor, MS found guilty, going to be hanged, Amy comes back as soon as they're done hanging him. They take MS to a funeral pyre and make plans to burn him when it stops raining. Turns out MS is alive. He proposes to Phenix. THE EHHHNND!

A disturbing touch was MS giving Phenix a ring before his "execution." It was made from one of his quills. How keen! I hope when/if my boyfriend proposes to me, he takes a hunk of his skin and makes a ring out of it!

I shall leave you all with this little quote after Wildfyre makes Phenix an ORXBOT... or whatever... I didn't quite understand that part of the story:

"Surprise," Wildfyre smiled. "You should have no problems having children now. And I KNOW you will."

What? You KNOW that they'll have problems having children?
Zefiel  479
11-30-2004 12:18 PM ET (US)
[deranged and shrieky]Don't do it! Don't *erk*

Eh, no worries. i first have to finish paying the Xbox.

I just started reading the Mecha Hedgedog (hee, hee) story, and.. I couldn't go past the first few parragraphs. what'd Davey's underage ex girlfriend write in the story, anyway?
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  478
11-30-2004 11:45 AM ET (US)
The mere mention of "reproductive fluid" is enough to make one gag.
I'm assuming they're not talking about the caustic goo in Polaroid Instant camera film... or the foul-smelling stuff in mimeograph machines.

I'm SO getting one of the newer super small PS2. one day.
[deranged and shrieky]Don't do it! Don't *erk* [calm and robotlike] Yes, a new servant for the rolly, grabby master. Hurry. Sooner the better. Act now. All will serve The King of All Creation.

The soundtrack is pretty good, in as much as it's weird peppy J-Pop stuff that manages to NOT wear on your nerves during hours of compulsive play.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  477
11-30-2004 11:26 AM ET (US)
I read the entire story through and it's not as bad as I thought it would be.

It's worse. And the ending is... is "contrived" the word for it? No, it's "stupid." I'll go with "stupid."

But at least there's no rape. But a lot of gross stuff. The mere mention of "reproductive fluid" is enough to make one gag. And they say this story should be read only by those 15 years old or older. No one under the age of 120 should read this.

Bill: I forgot to mention that I loved the extension cord joke.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  476
11-30-2004 10:40 AM ET (US)
hehe, Ernst, glad you gots to know the madness that is Katamary. everyone's talking about it. what's the soundtrack like, i hear it's very impressive as well?

I'm SO getting one of the newer super small PS2. one day.
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  475
11-30-2004 10:39 AM ET (US)
I was just given a mad game for the PS2, which has possibly the lamest graphics I've seen on the platform, but I can't stop playing! It's called Katamari Damancy, and you play a little green critter pushing a sticky ball, which picks up ANYTHING smaller than it. It starts at a size which menaces ants and small candies. When I left for work today, I had a 4.5 meter juggernaut capable of scooping up cows and phone booths (and children!). I am promised that eventually supertankers and baseball stadia can be assimilated. It's the J-Pop Borg Ball, in peppy pastel colours! WHEEE!
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  474
11-30-2004 09:20 AM ET (US)
Fistle or anyone else: What was that commuterbarnacle ref to Gonty's "electricity-based Superman" story? Damned if Google can find that. And I sooo want to read it. "UP, UP and AWAaaayyyyyy..." as the extension cord unplugs.

I only heard about it and saw a few pics when it first came out. I have no idea how Superman came to acquire electric powers or the skin-tight blue bodysuit. Ugh.

Mecha Sonic Ech: I got so far as the asterix divider, and the rape doesn't take place. From the looks of it, Davey Crapett's going to be destroying the Sonic robot. Yay. Our hero.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  473
11-30-2004 01:13 AM ET (US)
Also, I now worship the god of Trumpy. It's not much different than not worshiping the god of Trumpy, except now there's wacky stop motion segments of my life.

"D'you know what playing is, Trumpy?"
Crow<Trumpy voice>: It's when I break you in half...

My very first MST3K and still one of my faves :)
"Delicious Kitty!"
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  472
11-30-2004 01:08 AM ET (US)
I just stumbled across the strangest page, it is a story called Mecha Sonic X: The Dark Side by DVK and a couple of other people.

The really wierd thing is that the text cannot be read when the page loads, the backgound is a freaky hand holding the earth with the words "page not found" underneath.
You can highlight the text using your mouse to read it.

I have no real comment on the text itself, I started to read it and it looks it begins with a bizare robotic sonic rape, that's as far as I got.

Please do not read it if this sort of thing offends you, I know it offends me.

I just found this really really bizare, it looks like they are trying to hide this pile of putrid text. Why not just delete it and be done with it.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  471
11-30-2004 12:30 AM ET (US)
Fistle or anyone else: What was that commuterbarnacle ref to Gonty's "electricity-based Superman" story? Damned if Google can find that. And I sooo want to read it. "UP, UP and AWAaaayyyyyy..." as the extension cord unplugs.

Rabbit:
"You're stupid minds! Stupid! STUPID!"
"That's all I'm takin' from you!" *punch*
Only the best dialogue EVAH.

Uh-oh, Byron's on the keyboard again...Better send now.
Rabbit  470
11-30-2004 12:05 AM ET (US)
I finally saw Plan 9 From Outer Space today. It was everything I had thought it would be. The beginning made me think of Bill, since he uses that quote sometimes.

We also watched MST3k: Pod People. I giggled when they mentioned "Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill!" Also, I now worship the god of Trumpy. It's not much different than not worshiping the god of Trumpy, except now there's wacky stop motion segments of my life. It's kind of cool.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  469
11-29-2004 10:07 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-29-2004 10:10 PM
More Gontie shit. I'm greatly nuts for Gonterman! No, that needs work...

I just happened along the Gonterman Shrine, wanting to read some of the text-based stories that I hadn't read in a long time. This day's happy fun-time hour read is The Kissing Contest. And here's a nice gem:

The 'S&M Alert' lights up in Jasmine's brain. It's Pocahontas' Native American lifestyle and the incident she had with Madonna that had given Disney's Indian Princess a reputation of being into stuff shown in that 'Human Nature' video in certain circles, even though she's really not that deep into it and Disney prefers' not to delve into their characters' sex lives. She changes the subject.

Whaaaaaat?... I'm usually good at translating (some) Gonterism, but this just flew over my head.

And here's another:

Ariel: I'll give you a gold cover Blood and Metal #0,
autographed by David Gonterman himself.

Hugo: How'd we know it's him?

Ariel: He signed it with his E-Mail address.


BWAHAHAHAHAHA!! You know, I found a "Storm the Castle" fic on one of 'em fangled alt.net.whatever boards a while back and saved it to my harddrive. As a matter of fact, I wonder if I can still find it?...

By the way, how's the tepid mouse not-porn coming along? Any red-hot staring action going on yet? Oh, can't forget Tardles, Vixen, and the litter box...

EDIT: Argh, nevermind, Commuterbarnacle has it. Can't believe I missed that link!
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  468
11-29-2004 08:57 PM ET (US)
I know.. after reading a bit more of the runner stories, i wound up diggin' them, hehe. and i was just surprised when i found them. heh.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  467
11-29-2004 08:31 PM ET (US)
Zef, thanks for the muttcats site! I know, I'm just a sucker for anything that loves the kitties.
Liliana von Kalashnikov  466
11-29-2004 06:39 PM ET (US)
(Sorry, not feeling especially creative--I think that's my old AOL profile pseudonym.)

Oh, man...I thought I had learned my lesson about never going to pet memorial pages a few months back, when Karen turned around and asked why my eyes were filled with tears when I was supposed to be doing Excel exercises. Just my luck, too, to read the one about Morris, the **orange tabby.** Like I think I said before, every time I see that commercial with the stripey orange kitten, it always reminds me of my Tboy and is guaranteed to make me go all teary.

(For visual documentation, you can head on over to the 'The Chilluns--Juvenilia' album at my Webshots page: http://community.webshots.com/user/nikolais_lilly) Just be warned--there are a LOT of pictures there, so please accept my content-heavy retroactive apologies. Mucho inspirational props to Ernst & his faboo Korea pages, in any case, though I haven't finished scanning/uploading everything yet. (Dear Gord, no--there's MORE?)

In any case, the two big bloody scratches on my knees from this morning--courtesy of Sophie's alarmed response to noisy leaf blowers outside--don't hurt at all after
reading a few of those tributes. I'm just glad I have her around, regardless of whatever injuries ensue.

(Checks the fridge)...Both can be arranged.

Be still my heart! Hey, I used to get paid for proofreading, so I'd be more than happy to donate said services! :) Still, I'll have to consider collage'ing after your suggestion, Bill...
Rabbit  465
11-29-2004 06:21 PM ET (US)
I'm still in on the Great Project too, I've just been too busy and tired lately to post. I'll take page two if no one else wants it.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  464
11-29-2004 02:13 PM ET (US)
I looked through that site and read some of the most tear-jerking poems and stories I'd ever come across. "Letting Go" describes everything I'd been thinking about Pepper from time to time these days. She's doing well, but I fear for the day when I might have to make that decision...

Reading the Runner stories is an uplifting experience, though. Sure to bring a smile.

Flushed with success, Runner sat back and licked her paws. Eyes looking around, seeking applause..........huh? Finding none there, herself alone, she haughtily marched herself off to tell someone about her feat. Stupid human, (they make lousy pets), it actually thought Runner was talking about feet! Can't even speak meowese, these pets.
Zefiel  463
11-29-2004 01:36 PM ET (US)
Somehow i had never thought this existed. there's cat fiction out there. i guess it's not that strange..

http://muttcats.com/fiction/bluejay.htm
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  462
11-29-2004 10:55 AM ET (US)
Bill: Really, I'm holding off on Phrack Whoring the comic. If there are pages left over at the end, I might toss in one or two frames, but for the most part, I will abstain.
I think Fistlekits and Zef do a better job, anyway ;)

I find the whole 'mmmm... fursuit.. soft and warm....*Homer shudder noise*' a bit creepy.
Davey has clearly played out this scenario in his head on many many lonely nights. It's almost like a Symbiotic fursuit brings out a kind of mothering instinct. A very..reverse Oedipal one...O_o
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  461
11-29-2004 08:15 AM ET (US)
I feel the perfectionist instinct, too, believe me. But.. it's a GONTERMAN parody! You are dumbing down a significant talent.. does 'perfection' even enter the argument? ;)
What Bill said - it helps the gag if, despite best efforts, actual talent still shines through ;)


That's the conclusion I came to. Hey, I might even feel better about myself as an artist after I look at the finished product.

New Scarlet strip: I've seen better costumes made by amateur furries. (Not up close, but in pictures.) And I doubt that they went through the trouble to make the costumes have pulses.

Makes me wonder if Davey ever watched the Toy Story movies and wondered, "Wow, do Woody and Buzz have real body functions?"
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  460
11-29-2004 01:03 AM ET (US)
Jim-kun pops the second most important question he'll ever ask.

The one before "Just how phracked in the head am I?"

So, Mimi, is you participating in the Great Project, or is you not?
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  459
11-29-2004 12:54 AM ET (US)
I dig when he says 'all natural fibers'. i mean, if i was a living costume, i'd be ashamed to be made of poliester, i guess.
Rabbit  458
11-29-2004 12:35 AM ET (US)
New Scarlet PI strip.

No mispellings that I can see in this one. He even got "amateur" right. Maybe he's got an editor now? Like, maybe his mom?
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  457
11-29-2004 12:19 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-29-2004 12:23 AM
Fistlekits:... I feel the perfectionist instinct, too, believe me. But.. it's a GONTERMAN parody! You are dumbing down a significant talent.. does 'perfection' even enter the argument? ;)
What Bill said - it helps the gag if, despite best efforts, actual talent still shines through ;)

Updating on the Vixen-Adam HOT-CHATTING-ACTION thread - they are now discussing how they got their names. It's RIVETTING, lemme tell you...
One of Davey's last lines made me O_O, though...:
Vixen's fox pet Todd hops up on the bed as they're talking..
Adam chuckled and smiled at this as the three are close, and it appears that Todd was enjoying it the most.

Oh please Guord, don't let the PET get involved!...
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  456
11-28-2004 09:14 PM ET (US)
What got me thinking.. would we do better if we were on meds/high like DVK?

Duuuuude! The mullet's talkin' to me!...
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  455
11-28-2004 09:09 PM ET (US)
(Checks the fridge)...Both can be arranged.

fridge? psychotropical turkey? hallucinogenic salad?

What got me thinking.. would we do better if we were on meds/high like DVK?
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  454
11-28-2004 09:02 PM ET (US)
As my friend, do you really want to condemn me to reading lots of Davey's atrocious art and even worse grammar/writing?

Of course not! We're not looking for verisimillitude. Find an old National Geographic with an article on foxes and a JCPenney catalog, then just paste 'em up in a way that follows the script.

Without any neurochemical intervention? Or without being paid?!

(Checks the fridge)...Both can be arranged.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  453
11-28-2004 07:46 PM ET (US)
Ah, back at the dorm with all my drawing supplies and scanner. Can't wait to get started on this project!

Lilly: That sucks you won't be joining us... but hey! You can be among our first beta readers! Isn't dat speshul?! Well, maybe not.

I'd rather have us e-mail the finished panels to Bill than post the links here, feel vastly inferior to other peoples' drawing skills, and make a mad dash to do "corrections." As a matter of fact, I believe that we gotta resist making corrections whatsoever to our work.

(You won't believe the battle I had with myself over the cover I did. I finally decided to leave it as it is. The desire to make every piece perfect... that is the curse of the artist.)
Lilly von Doh!dangnabbit!  452
11-28-2004 07:26 PM ET (US)
you could just make a collage if you wanted to.

Yeah, but you know, I'm really not into this whole comix thing (my longago Love and Rockets addiction notwithstanding--not the band, Los Bros Hernandez, yo!), so that would mean I'd have to do research. As my friend, do you really want to condemn me to reading lots of Davey's atrocious art and even worse grammar/writing? Without any neurochemical intervention? Or without being paid?!

Besides, I'm about to start going through the, "Will I or won't I?" of making vs. buying Xmas cards. Y'all have yer fun, I'll cheer from the sidelines. (Much to my infinite amusement & disbelief, I once got ?scouted?rushed? for the cheerleading squad at university, so I'll assume that makes me qualified enough to cheer & encourage you all forthwith.)
Liliana von Doh!tage  451
11-28-2004 07:14 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-28-2004 07:15 PM
Well, no. "Very cool," but not "mandatory," Queen of the Clever Collages..

Hey, now, no pandering to my ego! That's no way to get me to the post office tomorrow! (Actually, I probably *will* mail your package tomorrow...though damn MST for ruining the term "package" for me! [As well as, "batch," "basket," "area"...great, now I have to go home and haul out my Crash of the Moons tape.])

Though speaking of...I basically agree with your semi-long-ago assertion (and Ernst's more-recent one) that the Sci-Fi Channel's eps of MST3K are insanely inferior to those from the Comedy Channel era, except for a few instances. I'll take The Mole People or Revenge of the Creature over The Wild, Wild World of Batwoman or The Incredible Melting Man (title?) any day. But that's just me.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  450
11-28-2004 07:05 PM ET (US)
Edit: For inspirational purposes, I've put the 2 images we've already seen on the page.

is this gonterman's 'inspiration' or normal, non stealy inspiration?

Bill beat me to the point seconds before, Lils. you could just make a collage if you wanted to.
Liliana von Doh!  449
11-28-2004 07:04 PM ET (US)
What I get for forgetting to come up with today's pseudonym before I posted. Again, for emphasis--doh! (Did you guys know that when the Simpsons is dubbed into Spanish, Homer doesn't say that? I tried to explain to young Zef why it's funny, but had to attribute it to weird NorAm cultural peculiarities [which of course can be used to explain away absolutely anything]--anyone else care to take a swing at it?)

BTW, Mr. Spaz, those Russian photographs were awesome. I didn't have time to look at much, comme toujours, but it was especially fascinating to see what the environs close to Ekaterinberg looked like around the same time that the Romanovs spent their final months there. (Yes, I'm morbid as all get-out--like that's a news flash.)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  448
11-28-2004 07:03 PM ET (US)
"Do I hafta? Do I gots to?"

Well, no. "Very cool," but not "mandatory," Queen of the Clever Collages.
Lilly von  447
11-28-2004 06:54 PM ET (US)
It'd be very cool if every one of you regular Comments readers makes even one drawing, artless or not.

Do I hafta? Do I gots to? Will there be a substantial penalty for early withdrawal, I mean, for abstaining? Do I not get to hang out with all you cool kids anymore?

An erect member, I am sure DVK knows what that feels like (with his right hand)!

From the little I've seen, plus the numerous comments herein, I'd have to concur his right hand is usually engaged elsewhere. Being a righty who draws with his left hand would explain a lot, wouldn't it? (Oh, but wait, that's supposed to stimulate brain function. Never mind.)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  446
11-28-2004 04:36 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-28-2004 07:18 PM
When I mentioned a long deadline for the pics, I meant the completed ones. Ernst is right; we'll need a set time for people to place dibs. Tuesday 12/7 sound good?

Here's the product, with the current dibs called. I'll update as we get more.
For submission of finished art, my email is thoughtviper # fastmail.fm. Use "phrack" in the subject line, please.
Edit: I didn't make it clear, but for dibs, you can just post them here so that everyone can see. That way, I won't get home from work and find that several people dibbed the same panel. (For the record, Mr Spaz has dibbed all of page 3)

Edit: For inspirational purposes, I've put the 2 images we've already seen on the page. All the others won't be published until the final product is released
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  445
11-28-2004 01:05 PM ET (US)
Oddly enough, I was expecting that sentence to carry on: "...to wonder over to the water troff with and cool things down before anything too upsetting happens."

I add a vote to send panels to big for a big reveal. I would dispute the lack of continuity errors in the original canon; they're just disguised as inconsistency of art ;-) There should be some kind of very broad deadline for the real artists to stake their turf, just so the sick stick figure stickers can figure out what's available in time to hash something out for the overall deadline.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  444
11-28-2004 05:50 AM ET (US)
Mouse porn alert, davey is starting to get involved!

Check this out,

The source of Johnny's hot feeling, his erect member, was exposed for Susan to see and wonder over. By now he was as warm as she was, and the two were drawing in deep breaths in unision.


An erect member, I am sure DVK knows what that feels like (with his right hand)!

"wonder over", yeah wonder how she is going to sprinkle pepper on it and make it sneeze. YUCK, Gonter organ!
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  443
11-28-2004 01:21 AM ET (US)
, and we stick-figurers will move in.

Hsst, men! as soon as the artists fall asleep, we go in and stick-figure the hell out of them! now, be quiet, they're goading a fanboy into wild fury!

I'm lazy too.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  442
11-28-2004 01:02 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-28-2004 01:28 AM
"I do hope that the artists leave a panel or two for us stick figure hacks."

I'm expecting plenty. I'm not sure where Mimi stands on the project, and it seems that Negaduck's passed on it.

Another question to TPW: When's the deadline for pics? I have no actual opinion on this. It's actually started at a bad time for everyone (the HOL-I-DAYS bum bum bum-BAAAHH!!) Springtime in North America is good for me, as I'm that lazy. But I'd like consensus on the final cut-off date. Otherwise, I suppose we'll just go by the rate of submitted pics. As they taper off, the deadline will move up, and we stick-figurers will move in.

edit: It'd be very cool if every one of you regular Comments readers makes even one drawing, artless or not. If you can't draw, cut up a magazine and do a collage. PhotoShop something. Ask your nieces and nephews to get out their Crayola 64s (no, wait, early Gonty exposure may scar them for life). And I'm sure that there's a lurker or 2 here who could also jump in...
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  441
11-28-2004 12:58 AM ET (US)
I think that sending teh stuff to Bill would be awesome. Davey has yet to have continuity errors (that i know) but hell, as Steve says, we could get revision crazee and that wouldn't be so good.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  440
11-28-2004 12:43 AM ET (US)
I vote that we send each panel to Bill, I think the suprise at the end will be well worth it. If we do it the other way there may be too much temptation to revise after submission.
I do hope that the artists leave a panel or two for us stick figure hacks.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  439
11-28-2004 12:27 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-28-2004 12:29 AM
Question to Team Phrack Whore:

Should we post the individual panels here, or should they be sent to me? So that the finished project would be a surprise to everyone?
(Well, except me)
I'll bow to the will of the majority (no Diebold machines here!), but I think the latter would be more fun. Sure, it'll lead to insane continuity errors...but we are trying to recreate the Gontexperience, oui?

Zef: Yes! And not just worthy from its sheer Davey CREEPINESS! Davey + FoxAndroidSexBot = CAH-REEEPY!!

Dibs will be updated on the script as they're received:
http://www.thoughtviper.com/gontervault/phrack.htm
(edit: Starting tomorrow, of course. It's late)
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  438
11-28-2004 12:18 AM ET (US)
Hey, some of us have always used dialup and only get to use DSL at their workplace. since it's freakin' $40 a month. (and to bother me more they're giving a FREE xbox live starter kit with signup, but i can't really signup right now, arrrgh.)

*siiiiigh* if i really have to say it, i want for now the 3rd panel of page twelve and the 1st and 2nd of page 13. did my scarlett prove worthy? ;)
Fistlekits  437
11-27-2004 11:58 PM ET (US)
Lousy dial-up... hope Dad gets DSL or cable soon.

But anyway, Zef: I used some Narrow Arial and Impact for the cover. That's the closest thing I have to Davey's common font, unfortunately. Ooo, I could always go by one of 'em font sites to see if they have anything close or the exact same thing.

Bill: You feel sorry for Davey sometimes? No kidding. There are times when I really want to risk reaching out to him and explain how the world really works (at least from a 22-year-old's perspective... which probably wouldn't be that helpful). But we all know that won't work. You just gotta sit back and maybe make a comic to deal with the Gonterrifying bile he pushes out at times.

Mouse Not-Porn: Psshh! Is that as erotic as it's going to get? Criminey... but at least it's not Mouseworx.

Dibs on Page Five, Second Panel.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  436
11-27-2004 11:55 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-27-2004 11:57 PM
I kinda doubt many panels would be left behind, there's lots of artists here. Mimic is on here. if you like Guillermo del Toro's work (directed Hellboy) it's an awesome movie.

Steve's poetic requests notwithstanding see? there's LEVELS of obsession ;)

man, I'm positively ecstatic/freaked out that Briz did something back and HELD the fem-mouse. soon there might be actual, terrible to watch ACTION. or not. you can tell it was hard for Davey to mention a dang bulge on pants.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  435
11-27-2004 11:44 PM ET (US)
Steve's poetic requests notwithstanding, since there's been no suggestions on the script, Sunday I'll post up the semi-definitive version. Semi, as the artists are allowed to tweak the dialogue to their own satisfaction (and add those idiotic Davey sound fx!)

Artists, start claiming your panels. We non-artists will stick-figure our way through the ones you leave behind.
Fistlekits  434
11-27-2004 11:26 PM ET (US)
Wow, I thought I was gonna be able to post here a few days ago, butg that tryptophan (spelling?) really did a number on me. Whee, turkey-induced comas are fun!

I shall browse the recent comments... and maybe log in. Hope everyone's having a good time, regardless whether you celebrate(d) Thanksgiving or not!
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  433
11-27-2004 07:41 PM ET (US)
Hey Bill, you were asking about this, but I finally found out why my Urbandictionary entry never showed up. I forgot to activate it (I'd sent it to a different email addy).
Anyway, it's activated now, but I'll paste it here, anyway:
David Gonterman

    aka Daveykins Foxfire
    aka Adam Packbell
    aka Jim Goodlow
    aka Oh GOD Make him STOP!!(by others)
    The Self-Proclaimed Internet's Most Dangerous Cartoonist. His actual output is about as dangerous as a mini-fart that gets lost in the couch cushions.
    Known for his breathtaking egomania and arrogance, his inability to take any kind of criticism at all, and his baffling inability to show any sign of improvement despite entering his SEVENTH year of inflicting his comics on the Net.
    Notorious for his blatant self-inserts (and equal obliviousness to the fact that they suck), his wholesale plagiarism of any fandom he happens to like at any one time and his appalling spelling.
    See also gontermaniac


    "Johnny Briz" - Jonathan Brisby, a character ripped off from The Secret of Nimh and David's most treasured character (outside of himself). David is currently under the idiotic impression that Disney fans will embrace Johnny as a new Mickey Mouse. So far, the reaction has been tepid to cold.
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  432
11-27-2004 07:32 PM ET (US)
You know, once those pants are down, that buldgerigar is going to fly off in search of better accomodation. ;-)
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  431
11-27-2004 05:53 PM ET (US)
More Mouse Porn, I have underlined the most explicit parts. Nipples and buldges, oooh, it is SOOOO erotic I am getting a buldge of my own :()

DVK:
"Hmmmidunno," was all Johnny could say. But he was blushing beet red and drawing in breath. Sue can see him unbotton his collar and a buldge in his pants.

Sick Puppy:
Susan stepped back and removed her skirt revealing that it was the only thing she had been wearing. She began to undo his pants as she said, "I remembered a Festival that was held at this time of the year in the village I grew up in and one of the things that were done in it was males and females that cred for eachother mated. I want to celebrate the "Festival of Life and your the male I want to celebrate with." She then nibbled at a cheek ruff.

DVK:
Johnny smiled, gulped, and nodded, as his arms seemed to move on their own and held Sue as she undid his pants.

Sick Puppy:
Susan smiled as he held her. her nipple began to peek through her fur as she finished and slip his pants down.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  430
11-27-2004 05:35 PM ET (US)
If you find your life a bore,
Go and watch the gonty draw,
Come back here for your DVK links,
Make some comments on how his work stinks,
Come up with pictures and words galore,
Add them to Greenterman, you Phrack Whore!
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  429
11-27-2004 04:51 PM ET (US)
Blib guh ma doog! *ahem* One assumes the Ashbey person helped out with proofreading. DVK must be made of degenerate matter to have so very much stuff in orbit around him.
Bartender (flashback filter): You know, some day a pile of professional entertainer/athletes will come bustin' in here, in character, to try and kill a non-entity comic doodler/marginal writer. I'm going to buy a gun... heck, TWO guns, so he'll have something to fight back with. Hmm. On reflection, this might help with the knife-wielding crack addict problem we've been having, too.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  428
11-27-2004 12:11 PM ET (US)
His belt buckle opened with a ding-dong, and a *large* Ginzuishou floated into his hands. Vince's jaw dropped.
Is that a sex scene? I don't even want to KNOW.

I can be a slight spoilsport and explain that. A Ginzuishou is a Sailormoon reference - it's SailorMoon's Mystical Silver Crystal, which she pulls out now and again to save the world.
It's still a ridiculous place to have it appear, though *lol*
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  427
11-27-2004 08:09 AM ET (US)
Warning: This is *intended* to be a Self-Insertion Fic.


Haha. hee,hee. hee. heee heee. hehehe.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  426
11-27-2004 02:02 AM ET (US)
I'M NOT...OB--SESSEDDDDDDah!!!

http://www.geocities.com/hysterical_woman/gonterlain.html

Serial Experiment Lain as writted by the GonterMAN!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  425
11-27-2004 01:46 AM ET (US)
I'm not obsessed!!
Here's a Gonterman story!

http://svamcentral.org/svam/AAA/Interludes/Nitro1.txt

It's not one I've seen before. It involves wrestlers and is set right after NiTRO. At the end, there's the spectacular appearance of the ridiculous Space Blimp.

It's also my favorite Gonty story as it mentions Connecticut! Then DESTROYS Connecticut, as well as all of New England. About which one of Davey's sycophants says:
    "Christ, David, I'm sorry. Even when things got their worst, Jamie never even wanted you *dead*."

Millions killed, but it's all about the Davey.

Fave part:

    "So do I!!" Growled Star Mech in his electronically altered voice, as he put his hands in front of him. His belt buckle opened with a ding-dong, and a *large* Ginzuishou floated into his hands. Vince's jaw dropped.


Is that a sex scene? I don't even want to KNOW.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  424
11-26-2004 06:42 PM ET (US)
I become obsessed when I come here. Apart from that, I lead my life relatively Gont-free.
What can we say, he's a fascinating subject. But yes, I am certainly not about to make him the subject of a thesis ;)
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  423
11-26-2004 05:13 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-26-2004 05:32 PM
C'mon. Let's not monkey around with denial. We're obsessed. But it's not clinical-- heck, I go for several hours a day without pondering Gontness. At least none of us have written semi-serious personality examinations like Jesus did.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  422
11-26-2004 01:32 PM ET (US)
MrSpaz - I wouldn't say we're OBSESSED (Hey, I didn't come up with the Gontercomic idea ;)). s'just that this is probably the only place that a Gonter-observer can discuss it with others. We are the Few, the Proud... and yeah, quite possibly the Few a Bit Nutzoid ;)
Zefiel  421
11-26-2004 09:59 AM ET (US)
Of course, everyone knows bears carry concealed guns, Ernst. a rifle gets stuck on the underbrush and such.
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  420
11-26-2004 09:17 AM ET (US)
Zow. If that had been a Russian site, I'd have suspected some kind of revisionist, "Hey, WE invented colour!" thing going on, but given the source, all it is is cool.

Not as cool as a bear with the dexterity to work a Winchester rifle, of course, but very very cool all the same.

I should mention that, here in a country with some rudimentary gun control laws, we don't yet have a lot of reports of ursine Beagle Boys climbing in back windows to devour gunless home-owners. And police torturing suspects is headline news, due to it's relative rarity.
MrSpaz  419
11-26-2004 05:12 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-26-2004 05:17 AM
It's not exactly Gonterrific (you people are bordering on GROUPIES, btw. Well, some sort of band of anti-groupies I guess. Still, you're all obsessed :) ), but I find this terribly interesting and figured some people here might find it the same:

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pp/prokhtml/prokabt.html

It's the Library of Congress' collection of a Russian photographer's catalog of images taken between 1905 and 1915. The interesting part is that this guy had devised a system for taking full-color photographs way back in the day. Some of the images are particularly stunning in clarity, color, and subject; especially when you consider the era. They've added many new images in 2004, so even if you've seen this before it might be worth checking out again.

I particularly like this collection. It provides an interesting perspective on things; for me it serves as a reminder of both things lost forever and things that will probably never change. Some of the photos look like they could have been taken last week, but I know that they're nearing 100 years old.

Anyways, have a look if you care. It's kinda tricky to find the images. The best path is to click "Background and Scope", then select a collection by LOT number, then finally click the link that says "Find any online catalog records..." This should produce a thumbnail collection you can browse through.

PS: The best versions of most images are the "Digital renderings from glass negatives" under "Additional Versions." These are the ones where they lined up the images on the computer after scanning.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  418
11-26-2004 01:51 AM ET (US)
Anyone wanna bet that in the next Livewire, Nitwit's cosplay uniform turns out be...Tinkerbell?
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  417
11-26-2004 01:32 AM ET (US)
I'm just still amazed that he's really using that 'internet search cures faeries' thing. also, we can discern the one with the litterbox fetish was solely Davey..
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  416
11-26-2004 01:06 AM ET (US)
If there was a drinking game based on "take a shot whenever Davey or Marcie change tenses in the same sentence"...I would've had alcohol poisoning by the second paragraph.

Man, where did this "Peter Pan" thing suddenly come from? (And I don't mean the "Peter Pan's peter" thing going on in his PG-rated sex forum) The pixie turned up in the STC RPG, but it's only since yesterday that Adam went from "coffee shop guy with a mouse sidekick" to "the incarnation of the Peter God."

I look forward to the upcoming Livewire Latte strips, when he abruptly retcons in all this Shinola with a snowshovel. Then maybe something will actually HAPPEN!
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  415
11-26-2004 12:29 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-26-2004 12:30 AM
Boy.... things are hotting up on the Adam-Vixen thread. NOT!

Marcie:"Humph,Is that litter box is someones idea of a Joke? Adam your looking good these days" Vixen said turning her frown from the litter box to a grin. "Well I'd better unpack then." She open her bag and neatly put away her stuff.
Well at least SHE noticed that was a bizarre thing to have happen. Hoo yeah.... HOT UNPACKING ACTION!!!

Davey:"Apparantly someone confused Todd here for a cat," Adam said as he scritches the fox's head.
OOh, BAD backpedal, davey ;)

"Fortunately there's a protected back area here that's excellent for walks."

As Vixen unpacks, Adam hops on his bed and sat down on it indian-fashion. Vixen could see Adam hover about six inches off the bed before settling down. The way he sat, his pointed ears, and the attire he had on resembled a teenaged Peter Pan. To some people, he was.

No, David, just you. And this is in the Protected Forum WHY??

Marcie:"So how long have you had the Pan look going on?" She asked. Vixen had finihed unpacking and sat on the edge of her bed. Todd climb on and layed down beside her. She sat stroking Todd's head looking at Adam. She was think how the Pan look was a nice one for him.
Oh my... it's so steamy I can barely see. Seriously, are these two perfect for each other or what? :D
Oh no. Marcie asked him about himself. Everyone go to the john and get a snack, this could take a while...

Davey: Adam chuckled at the refrence. "Ever since I revived Firestorm. If you've seen 'Return to Neverland,' you'll know how pixies can get sick and die from blantant unbelief.
DOUBLE Grammar Crime? Paddlin' Time!

Well, I had the idea of using an internet search to cure 'Stormie." He taps his head. "Like so many ideas from my head, it would either work or be completely stupid
*Will not laugh... will not laugh....*

and blow up my home town, especially by hot wiring a device from Angelic Layer to one of my computers. Well, it worked, and Firestorm woke up in a huge ball of pixie dust. For a moment I thought that Vegas just got a new light. Instead I got a pixie that actually recognized me."

"It's not something I tell anyone, since not everyone would understand. But for a time in my life, some fifteen years plus, I was one of Peter Pan's Lost Boys. In 1995 I must've crashed landed somehow in Vegas--I don't know all the details, and lost my memories. I ended up getting adopted and going through puberty before I got some of them back with Firestorm, and with that came the elvish ears and the ability to fly."

He looked at Vixen, who showed a lot of interest in it.

Even if poor Marcie has no say in it by this point...

Adam just shrugged, "As I said, I live in Las Vegas, Nevada. I've seen wierder stuff in there. Being a {He makes quote marks with his fingers} 'Modern Day Peter Pan' is conservative compared to the stuff that happens and stays there. Besides, these ears usually go back to its non-pointed version in time. It's being in this cross-dimensional Disneyland that's making them pointy, no doubt."

He then looks back to Vixen, who is smiling at him. "I take it you like the look?"

Oh. Please. Praise him s'more, Marcie. Nothing makes a girl melt faster than hearing the blowhard talk about himself.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  414
11-26-2004 12:28 AM ET (US)
Oh, now i remembered, when i was doing the scarlett thingie, i thought, if we're making a Gonty-like comic, dont' we need the font he uses for dialog? does anybody know what one it is? (I think Fistlekits used it on her cover already?)
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  413
11-25-2004 11:19 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-25-2004 11:35 PM
Well, when you desire the fairer sex for one thing and one thing only, you might end up doing the things Robotnik did at nights.

Eeeeeyoookay.... That's perfectly in line with the retarto-sex-bot interplay in SOL:Nitro-- ...,When you do get a little talkative, I'll just cram something in your mouth.... DVK-- Super sensitive guy or quivering lump of repression? YOU be the judge!

I can't believe I just reread that bugger to find the quote. Time for a pint of medicinal vodka.

(Edit: While rereading, a synapse closed-- Himself reminds me of a chap who used to hang around a local speculative fiction group, trying to convince us all to write works involving the sublime and perfect philosophy espoused by... Astroboy. This guy was in his late 50's. He also popped into the local Dutch consulate to see what surface mail postage from Canada to the US was on occasion.)
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  412
11-25-2004 11:04 PM ET (US)
Man, it'd be great for Davey to NOT be 35 but maybe 16. it'd redeem him in a lot of ways.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  411
11-25-2004 10:59 PM ET (US)
"In the Gonternalysis, have you lot studied why he's 30+ and still has this attitude towards sex and stuff?"

The only part of his psychosexual history I've ever heard involved some sort of online romance with a girl half his age that ended when her parents found out about it. Of course, he turned it into some weird Sonic-themed text:

http://www.commuterbarnacle.com/gonterman/HONESTY.txt

"I dedicate this short episode to the parents of Emily Smith, who cared enough for their daughter to be concerned about her Cyberspace love life. A true sign of good parents."

Quote from the story:
DVK: "I consider sex to be a very difficult subject to discuss, to understand. It needs to be confronted, but with
extreme care, lest someone gets hurt. I say this from
experience, being in my mid-20s, and done my homework on such things."

I haven't seen anything to indicate that his "homework" has ever included "having sex." And his non-sexy nothing-happens adult RPs and his new "Retreat to Neverland" ideas, where he seems to want to regress to childhood...I don't get it. If something terrible had happened to him sexually, it'd be unlike him to not whine about it. It really seems like he's a shy kid just entering puberty with no idea what to do about it.
Except that he's not 14, he's 35.
There are times when I feel sorry for Davey.
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  410
11-25-2004 10:34 PM ET (US)
"Now, Davey, you're old enough to know a few things about the sprites and the foxes. Sometimes a young man will feel like his trousers are getting much smaller when he's near a woman. At times like this, you must rush home and draw comics, or the sinful women may draw you into unspeakable perversions and you'll never be allowed to watch The Wonderful World of Disney again, because Mickey would know you were tainted by sin. You don't want to be tainted by sin, right, Daveykins?"
A 9 year old DVK shakes his head in a negative manner, trembling.
"That's right. Also, your doodle will drop off if any one else ever touches it. Now go to your closet and pray. Mommy loves you, even when you are near to becoming a sinful lusting monster."
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  409
11-25-2004 10:27 PM ET (US)
In the Gonternalysis, have you lot studied why he's 30+ and still has this attitude towards sex and stuff? that's what i can't understand. didn't his mom ever talk to him about bees and birds and foxes?
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  408
11-25-2004 10:19 PM ET (US)
"I can see this getting somewhere in... 100 posts"

Haha!

So, the point of him starting an "adults only dirty mouse stories" thread was--to NOT USE IT?
I really don't understand this guy.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  407
11-25-2004 09:59 PM ET (US)
Meanwhile, Johnny feels all warm and tugs at his collar.


I can see this getting somewhere in... 100 posts, maybe less. just like Livewire.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  406
11-25-2004 09:59 PM ET (US)
Tardles?

Well after the response to BBC it should almost me Dickless!
I agree Mimi, he is a completely lost cause when it comes to erotic RP. I think that even if you had FireStorm guide it in for him his response would still be,

Johnny just stood there, tugging at his collar.
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  405
11-25-2004 09:39 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-25-2004 09:46 PM
"we have Slightly, Nibs, the Twins and Tootles (Cubby was made up by Disney)... What's a good Lost Boy name for Adam?"
 
Tardles?


What about that new kid from "Hook", that was leading the Boys in Peter's absence, wussisname... Repressio?

(Edit: Who'm I kidding? 'Tardles' is brilliant. I'm laughing again right now, typing this. Tardles, the boy known for his hideous feet and grim social skills. Heeheehee!)
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  404
11-25-2004 09:21 PM ET (US)
Welp. That's it. I tried. Here is Davey's reply to Firestorm's attempts to heat things up...
(A Metal Gear-type [!] appears over my head.)

{I didn't know other players can crash the Adult-themed RPs!}

Meanwhile, Johnny feels all warm and tugs at his collar.


*head drops into open palm*. I give up. The man is a eunuch.
Um... how am I crashing if I'm role-playing as Firestorm? ;)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  403
11-25-2004 09:16 PM ET (US)
"we have Slightly, Nibs, the Twins and Tootles (Cubby was made up by Disney).. .What's a good Lost Boy name for Adam?"

Tardles?
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  402
11-25-2004 07:50 PM ET (US)
"A older teenaged young man"

Nobody writes 'em like Davey. I surprised he didn't add "man of the male gender with a weiner, except when he's drawn with breasts."

Note the two beds. This is gonna be as sexy as an "I Love Lucy" episode.
I have no idea who "Vixen" is (a fox girl I assume), but isn't Adam...human? He's NOT talking about an anthropomorph using the litterbox here. Would you want to patronize a coffe shop where the counter help craps in boxes and scrapes sand over their doody? Is there a sign in the restroom saying "All Employess Must Wash Feet After Using"?
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  401
11-25-2004 07:07 PM ET (US)
OK, I've mostly gotten over that litterbox deal....
Mimi, you're the very devil! Davey's going to have a time NOT consumating something now, isn't he? So either a graceless withdrawal by him, or we have to see what his imagination spews forth. DEVIL-WOMAN! ;-)
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  400
11-25-2004 06:52 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-25-2004 06:53 PM
Because you'd have to question the dignity/intelligence/sanity of any 'anthromorph' who rathered a litterbox over a toilet, or the wide open field o.o I mean, when you're roleplaying, you often make your characters SMARTER than you are.
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  399
11-25-2004 05:08 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-25-2004 05:54 PM
How about:
Gyubuhubububhuhuuhhhhhh... {sinks to floor, creeps bonelessly towards nearest exit, is pleased to find it's a woodchipper}

Because any anthropomorph is going to eschew the relative sanitation of a toilet which their anthropoid frame allows them to use, in favour of pooping in some dirt.
With a chum.
While engaged in a sex act.
I repeat my earlier inchoate statement.

(And a note from the Editor part of the offended psyche: "I noticed that litterbox was there for a reason." Of course you did, jackass. You had your eyes open. Perhaps you were looking for a different verb? Let's try "assumed". It fits better, and it lets me slip ASS into the comment.)
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  398
11-25-2004 03:15 PM ET (US)
Gaaah, litterbox,

WTF. Jeez, I wake up and am greeted by this crap. That is much more than my brain can deal with.

I am gonna need a day to absorb this and hopefully come up with something more coherent than 'Gaaah'.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  397
11-25-2004 12:22 PM ET (US)
"I noticed that litterbox was there for a reason. They kinda prepared it for us two."

Woah, woah, woah. not only this'll be interspecies stuff, (and Davey actually INTERACTING with someone else in that sense) and he says "for us two"?? the world might not be ready for this.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  396
11-25-2004 12:11 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-25-2004 12:23 PM
Fresh piping hot undercover evil, comin' atcha. Happy Thanksgiving.
BBC starts a thread on Lost Boy Found. Tossing Davey a few *cough* "ideas".

O_O Ohmigod. ohmigod *giddy schoolgirl moment*. DAVEY has started a new hot Pr0n thread! Steve won't be up yet, so I'll have to post it...
Vixen and Adam, Using recent developments in STC..
..As well as in this pic (cue the pic Bill just mentioned).
Davie: When Vixen showed up at her assigned room in an hostel, she knew that it would be shared by someone. But as she went to the top floor where the more private rooms are, however, she wondered who the other person'll be.

She opened the door to her room to find a two bed hotel-style room, the other bed taken. There was a laptop connected to an internet port, and a radio playing music soft enough just to mask any outside noise.

She looked over to the bathroom and found the other occupant: A older teenaged young man with elvish ears, brushing his teeth and muttering somewhat. He had on an oversized t-shirt and pajama bottoms that resembled tights.

Marcie:Vixen stood looking at the boy. He reminder her of the Woodland elves who taught her how to speak to animals. "Hello, I'm Vixen your roommate."

Davey:The Elf turned around after spitting out the toothpaste, revealing himself as Adam. "Oh, hello, Vixen. So we're roomates." He smiles as he stepped out, moving closer to her for a moment. "I noticed that litterbox was there for a reason. They kinda prepared it for us two."


LITTERBOX??? This is a whole level of kink I have NEVER seen! >:D
As if Adam in Tights wasn't scarring an image enough.

Edit: BBC just added a new entry to the Johnny-Sue thread:
Up on the tv antenna nearby, a tiny spark flashed into Firestorm. She had been happily playing Halo 2 when she had detected heat. She was very sensitive to temp changes and she went to find out its source. It didn't take her long to trace the heat to the roof.

"Aw, how romantic!" Storm giggled, being careful to stay out of sight.
"And about time, too! I always thought Susy-Tee was kind of a snob.. real ice princess. How glad to see that I was wrong!"
He gaze drifted over to the other mouse
"As for Johnny-Bee... wow, he needs help. He looks like a little boy seeing his first PlayMouse. How long have these two been dating, now? "
She pondered as she watched them, Sue writhing in pent-up passion and Johnny just... watching.
"No. No no no, this won't do at all" Storm pouted. "C'mon Johnny, blushing isn't going to help her. I'll have to fix that with a little Fire-dust!"
Storm raised her hand and a tiny yellow flame ignited in her palm. Minute sparkles gathered from the air around it and melted into the flame, making it brighter and bigger. Storm kissed a finger on her other hand and blew a kiss into the flame. It turned a deep fiery red.
"One Libido Lighter, coming up!" she quipped.
Taking careful aim, she tossed it at Johnny's lower back. The flame danced on his vest for a second then sank into his body.

"Little fire for your loins there, Johnny-Bee!" Storm smiled and vanished, leaving the lovers towards the inevitable.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  395
11-25-2004 12:00 PM ET (US)
"What Adam [Pacbell of Baka Breakers] couldn't remember is that he was one of Peter Pan's Lost Boys in Neverland all this time."
Okay, so according to Pan canon, we have Slightly, Nibs, the Twins and Tootles (Cubby was made up by Disney).. so who was Adam?
He musta been the annoying little one whom the others were always desperately trying to lose. What's a good Lost Boy name for Adam? ;)

It's obvious that the Disney-made soundtrack in the 50s has been replaced by Disturbed. (I'll toss in Godsmack, a little bit of Creed, and of course the Top Gun Soundtrack.)

*pulls out shotgun, loads chamber*
Not even MODERN Disney would do THIS to old characters!
Bluth studios tried it with 'Rock-a-Doodle' and tanked.
This is just...*gag*....David. Stop. Please.

Shame Disney never got to complete its 'Chanticleer' movie. The Nine Old Men were really gung-ho on making it. The concept art looks like it would have been really good - very traditional and Classic Disney.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  394
11-24-2004 11:45 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-25-2004 01:37 AM
...And here's your Thanksgiving turkey:

In Adam's words, "I redefine the term 'Grow Up.'"

"What Adam [Pacbell of Baka Breakers] couldn't remember is that he was one of Peter Pan's Lost Boys in Neverland all this time."

Yeah, that makes sense. At least he wasn't one of Michael Jackson's boys from Neverland...

"Memories he slowly gets back as he finds an actual pixie--Firestorm by name--which he revives through a Google Search."

Clap if you believe in caching!

"Will Adam be a modern day Peter Pan? Not in a strict sence. He'll fly if he needs to, but prefers to drive a car or ride a motorcycle, and can pull off Anime and Wire Fu style moves, but you'd see him doing it wrearing a tie when he does it."

Will he also wrear his McDonalds' uniform? When he's doing it when he does it?

He mentions "the book." Yes, apparently this is the novel he wants to write.
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  393
11-24-2004 08:33 PM ET (US)
I'm with Zef-- when I dabble in such things, I always look forward to the inking. "Yay! Now it looks 12% less sucky!"
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  392
11-24-2004 07:23 PM ET (US)
I love inking. it allows me to correct mistakes! then again, i'm not a comic artist o.o
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  391
11-24-2004 07:15 PM ET (US)
It looks to me like he couldn't figure out how to edit off the lines through the legs. afterall, it seems he did it all with pencil.
His attention to presentation is rudimentary at best. Geez, he thinks 'roughly colour in with pencil' is good enough.
Look, I hate inking as much as a lot of comic artists do, but it's a necessary evil. Comics look a LOT better inked. Some artists can get away with pure pencil work, but not many. And Davey is definitely not one of them.
/uppity spoilt Photoshop person ;)
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  390
11-24-2004 05:28 PM ET (US)
where you'll be convinced I'm eating your eyeballs

I thought she was sicking on his nose.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  389
11-24-2004 03:49 PM ET (US)
It looks to me like he couldn't figure out how to edit off the lines through the legs. afterall, it seems he did it all with pencil.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  388
11-24-2004 02:51 PM ET (US)
edit: Wow. Sppeling is hard!

But that is the beauty of your script, for all we know there could be hundreds of unintentional speeling errors in it ;)
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  387
11-24-2004 09:11 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-24-2004 09:13 AM
Either that or he's on some really good drugs.
"Y-you can talk?"
"Hell, no. You've got so much mescaline in your system, tho', the next thing I do is sprout a dozen legs and chase you into the bathroom, where you'll be convinced I'm eating your eyeballs"

edit: Wow. Sppeling is hard!
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  386
11-24-2004 03:14 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-24-2004 03:15 AM
Davey left the lines-thru-the-legs in. And the hands that look like dead squid.

Did anyone else notice that Jim has turned albino, look at those eyes. Either that or he's on some really good drugs.

Edit for Speeling
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  385
11-24-2004 02:07 AM ET (US)
Good work, Zef! Certainly better than--
http://snowflakestudios.keenspace.com/d/20041123.html
Yes, Davey left the lines-thru-the-legs in. And the hands that look like dead squid.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  384
11-24-2004 01:56 AM ET (US)
Zef: You and your... tablet... *fume fume pout*

Jus' kidding. Seriously, though, that's pretty dang close to Gontie! You even have the *shading*! (I might do a few panels where it's totally line art and a few others with shading, just to give it another nice inconsistency.)

FK could do all the art herself, really
Aw, g'wan! ;) It's a good idea that a few other artists are taking part in this; drawing too much in DVK-style could mar my original style. Besides, I dig seeing other imitations!
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  383
11-24-2004 01:50 AM ET (US)
Zef, that's great, you have the style down! Love the woman waves and nipples ;)
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  382
11-24-2004 01:37 AM ET (US)
I'm glad FK and Steve kinda dabbled in 'mature' matters, as it'll make this look less evil.

I can't believe the project isn't finished and i already made fan art for it! i guess it was easier than doing a panel. anyway, the supah abilities of female artists here (FK could do all the art herself, really) force me to improve a bit. this was done all on tablet! ;)

Anyway, i was thinking of this part:


SECOND PANEL
Interior, Todvid's room. Scarlett is looking into the closet. Todvid looks a little worried, but is holding the hat again. He's also regarding the sub-neck region of Scarlett.
TODVID: You think you staying here?!
SCARLETT: You've got a walk-in closet. That's planty of space for me, and I can hide from your Mom. Don't worry!
TODVID: (thinks) Well, maybe this will be okay...


And came up with THIS:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Zef...oshops/scarlett.gif

Hope it doesn't scar you/change your impression of me o.o
Fal-chan  381
11-24-2004 12:36 AM ET (US)
I think I'm glad that I stopped reading Daveykins a long time ago. The idea of someone with a furry "member" is making me twitch. And then think of the reproduction methods of single-celled organisms.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  380
11-23-2004 09:34 PM ET (US)
What I wanna do is pose as an innocuous 12-year-old who has a better grasp on the world than Davey does. Wonder how he'll react to having such a young person on board?... and how he'll feel about the adult board then... hmmm...

It's so tempting...
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  379
11-23-2004 09:30 PM ET (US)
"Theat was harrible!" Susan said, disappointed that JB came too quickly. "You came too quickly, and I'm disappointid!"

With that, she gots up, and walked away, making sure to crush JB's face with a high hell in the process, and left him altogether, woman waves, breeeaaaaassssts, and all.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  378
11-23-2004 09:30 PM ET (US)
Good god. Okay, the more Davey balks on getting Johnny to make sweaty furry love to Sue, the more he demonstrates that he is in totally alien territory. I'm betting Foxstar just has Sue grab Johnny and do all the work his/herself.
This will be interesting. Is Davey truly clueless about first-person sex or is he just protective of Johnny? If the latter, why create the forum in the first place? What will Davey do if someone ELSE wrote Johnny playing hide-the-susage with Sue?
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  377
11-23-2004 09:25 PM ET (US)
There is another entry in the Mouse Porn forum, to be honest it is not worth posting, so do not stress if you cannot access that forum.

Basic synopsis: DVK: JB just stands there.

Common man, use your balls! I am half tempted to post something along these lines,

Susan reached up and took his zipper between her teeth, slowing drawing open his trousers. She reached into his musky darkness and slowly withdrew his furry member.
Suddenly she started bobbing her head like a chicken on Meth!
JB moaned as his seed slowly slid down her throat and he collapsed in an exhausted and spent pile beside her!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  376
11-23-2004 08:57 PM ET (US)
"as far as the Gelded Hand (snrt!), I ain't the editor. It was suggested, 's good. Suggestion withdrawn? S'alright."

...And I'm not the writer. I wasn't protesting it, just pointing out who it came from. Since the guy's Davey's coauthor of mouse porn, it can stay in.

I just typed "coauthor of mouse porn," and it's not a non sequitur. What a world, that has such Daveys in it!
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  375
11-23-2004 07:01 PM ET (US)
What about poor landlocked Ernst...
The "Palliser Triangle", named for the imperial surveyor who came out here well in advance of settlement, and declared it so much like a desert that no sensible government would let colonists set up here. Hockey...? I heer'd tell of it, onest. Is that geek quiz you're talking about the one with a percent rating, or the XP level-chart? Thanks to only being able to consider the past two years, I top out at 4th level (which, I guess, is pretty good for a guy who regularly... uh... thingy, you know, because of being married).

I join in the admiration of Fal-chan's beast, but let's be honest, there's damn few ugly cats.

On the "woman waves" thing-- I think it might be someone trying to be clever and not use the word "vibes". Not that it matters a lot.

Steve, Bill-- as far as the Gelded Hand (snrt!), I ain't the editor. It was suggested, 's good. Suggestion withdrawn? S'alright. As long as the movie remains true to my original vision... ;-)
Lilly von HornyGoatWeedz  374
11-23-2004 06:14 PM ET (US)
(This page just wouldn't look the same to me anymore if it didn't have the ads for those capsules. I like the idea of them being geographically-oriented, as I guess that puts SteveM and I in the Pacific contingent, with Bill y otros in the Atlantic division. What about poor landlocked Ernst, though? Uhmmm, did that used to be the Wales or Campbell Conference?) ::now stopping semi-obscure hockey questions::

Fal-Chan, I discovered the InExOb around the same time and similarly swooned when first hearing from Bill--after I'd been able to assure him I wasn't just angling for a hookup, anyway. Cute kitty! Very similar to le frere de ma belle Sophie, especially with the white underneath (Sophie has it too--I always call it her 'creamy nougat filling').

I'm guessing that 'woman waves' is about as graphic as poor Davey can get without his head exploding. Though Zef, trust me--I've known some furries, and gone to some cons (something that got me pts. on that geek quiz!)--trust me, you mix the two together and...well, okay, maybe you just get a C.S.I. episode, pero mi querido, you don't wanna emotionally damage yourself for life that way. Let your family do all that for you instead. :)
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  373
11-23-2004 04:16 PM ET (US)
Ernst, Bill is right with regards to the robotic arm line, it is not a true DVK moment as it did not come from his mouth/mind/hand. It just cracked me up at the time and I thought it would be a good addition, but after further contemplation I see it for the blasphemous garbage it really is. Even DVK is not that bad :)
Fal-chan  372
11-23-2004 03:08 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-23-2004 03:11 PM
"Welcome aboard, Fal-Chan! Feel free to link to any kitty pics/stories here!"

I feel strangely loved. The person who has been providing me with hours of entertainment since early 2000 when I first found a link to the InExOb has acknowledged my presence. Allow for a brief moment of swooning to follow.


What do you get when you cross gray, white, and crazy cats? (apologies if the link doesn't work, I suck at computing... though not as badly as Davey sucks at cartooning, thankfully)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/falconeyes/Imari01.jpg
NegaduckPerson was signed in when posted  371
11-23-2004 02:28 PM ET (US)
Wow. I peek in and read two screens and my head explodes. You guys are good.

After all that Gonterology, I've got to go read something good by comparison. Like the DOOM comic.

"Now I'm radioactive! That can't be good!"
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  370
11-23-2004 12:12 PM ET (US)
Man, science was a lot easier in the 17th century, when incoherencies like this were considered valid theoretical proofs.

Now they're called 'Conspiracy theory' ! Davey is in cahoots with Ed Wood's state to... TAKE OVER THE BUNNY INDUSTRY!
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  369
11-23-2004 12:12 PM ET (US)
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Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  368
11-23-2004 08:38 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-23-2004 10:03 AM
I smell a circularity developing! DVK's "Ed Wood-like" charm takes us to the possible tie in between fur-suits and angora sweaters (mmmm, nice!). Angora wools comes from bunny rabbits. The breeding habits of rabbits inspired Hefner's "bunny" costumes, WHICH appear on one of DVK's retarded sex-bots in SOL:NITRO. Another black hole of suckiness has appeared! I'm sure with a little effort we can cram Sailor Moon into it as well, since there's a rabbit connexion there (which I'm only barely aware of... something to do with the Moon Rabbit of Asian folklore, I believe).

Man, science was a lot easier in the 17th century, when incoherencies like this were considered valid theoretical proofs.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  367
11-23-2004 12:35 AM ET (US)
Ernst & Mimi:

That's not only an old PONG knock-off you see, but it's resting on another PONG knock-off. Which came with a light gun, a la the 1st Nintendo!
And I have a regulation PONG, too.

Yes, Mimi, that's a chainsaw. A toy one. From Hasbro's "Junior Leatherface" collection. (Not really, but I did get it in my Kay Bee days, as it just seemed weird that they'd make toy chainsaws)
It used to be wielded by Bill the Cat, but Byron likes to knock shit over. A lot.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  366
11-23-2004 12:24 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-23-2004 12:24 AM
I meant to say this earlier, so I'll say it now before it gets buried any further in the Daveylanche:

Welcome aboard, Fal-Chan! Feel free to link to any kitty pics/stories here!
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  365
11-22-2004 11:36 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-23-2004 12:14 AM
So it was something Fur-related afterall? Angorasuit?

Ok, i was being patient and laying low, but the latino metaphorist is in da house! it prolly refers to the wavy profile of a woman, on the breast area there's a curve, then on the waist there's another curve, then the hip makes another curve. simple!

 ) <- breast area
( <- waist
 ) <- hips!


Now i'm insane.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  364
11-22-2004 11:28 PM ET (US)
I was making a ref to all the times in Scarlett 1.0 where a "Zoot" took off its head and kept talking.

Oh, yeah, that does happen... I can't believe I forgot one of the most horrifying traits of "Scarlet PI."
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  363
11-22-2004 11:25 PM ET (US)
"Ed Wood never got the hots for Fursuits. maaaybe rubber stuff, but not fur."

You are so wrong!
ANGORA!!!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  362
11-22-2004 11:24 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-22-2004 11:32 PM
"it might be even creepier if we just had the drink poor out of her mouth. Imagine DVK-style people drinking from those bottles then..."

I was making a ref to all the times in Scarlett 1.0 where a "Zoot" took off its head and kept talking.

"Woman +3

632
OKAY THAT'S ME BYRON SAYING "HIII!" TO ALL YOU IN THE COPMMENT LAND!! I GET OFF THE KEYBORD AND GO FIGHT WITH WHITE CAT NOW!!!! BYYYYE!!!

Thank you, Mr Feet. Broke the wristrest off again.

"Woman waves"? I'm totally lost. My first thought (no, it really was) was Queen Elizabeth in a motorcade. *wave* to the peasants, *wave*!
Man, I'm not going to sleep tonight, pondering that one...If we ever figure it out, maybe it could be added to the script when Scarlett commes onbord.

edit: I think that this is the first time I've heard boobies refered to as "endowments."
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  361
11-22-2004 11:19 PM ET (US)
Ed Wood never got the hots for Fursuits. maaaybe rubber stuff, but not fur.
Rabbit  360
11-22-2004 11:07 PM ET (US)
Mimi and Steve: Thank you for satisfying my curiousity. :)

Woman waves? Like, in...the..ocean...ummm, I'm confused. And what's W doing there? I know Davey's a Bush fan and all...

Typical Davey, can't go all the way. He's still too stuck in his twelve year old mindset to really do anything other than innuendos. After reading Mouseworx, I'd have to say that's a good thing. It's part of his Ed Wood-ian, prepubescent charm.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  359
11-22-2004 10:59 PM ET (US)
Anyone noticed that Johnny had his sex change in mid-sentence?

So THAT's how he's going to sneak outta all the sex. or maybe she's aiming for HOT MOUSE LEZ ACTION!
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  358
11-22-2004 10:48 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-22-2004 10:53 PM
'Woman waves'...

I think he means breeeeeassssssts. Or maybe hiiiipppsss. Or some odd Davey-ish special effect wave she's eminating. Damned if I know.

"Er, Sue." Johnny said as she stares at Susan and her chest, her woman waves making him blush. "I don't think those berries are normal."

Anyone noticed that Johnny had his sex change in mid-sentence?
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  357
11-22-2004 10:46 PM ET (US)
Rats, and i was just figuring out how to get to a FurCon, all design drawings in hand and all.

How's Davey gonna wuss Johnny out of this one?

Making his hands detach.. to reveal robotcic kkomponents!
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  356
11-22-2004 10:44 PM ET (US)
Zef: Criminey, you're right! Ah, but it was originally Bill's idea and I just modified it. So it's rightfully his...

... unless I beat him to copyrighting it the poor man's way! *goes off to print her message and seal it in an envelope which she'll soon mail to herself and put in a lock box*
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  355
11-22-2004 10:41 PM ET (US)
Last time on the Hot Mouse action board:
"breeeeeassssssts!"
And now, this week's installment:
"Er, Sue." Johnny said as she stares at Susan and her chest, her woman waves making him blush. "I don't think those berries are normal."
(TOLD you Davey'd be too chicken to run with it! snerk. 'Woman waves'... Negs, Lily, you know what he's talking about?!)
She shakes her head and looks down at her chest and then at JB's reaction. W slightly she gives him a copy of his infamous grin and pops the second silver berry into her mought and eats it. "I remember seeing the silver berries being eatend by female who had barely noticable breasts and I have to admit I've wanted mine to be bigger now I can have that wish." She places his hands on her endowments and he could fell a vibration building in them then suddenly they began to swell in his hands and Susan was once again lost in the throws of the waves of pleasure they gave her.
WE HAVE FORCED FONDLING, CAPTAIN!!
How's Davey gonna wuss Johnny out of this one?
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  354
11-22-2004 10:35 PM ET (US)
{i]Ah tell ya, Miz Poppins. America in 2004 is Just Plain Crazy."[/i]
Yeah, those crackers in Illinois, voting in a corker of a black senator like that...

And 'Song of the South' has not been banned at all, Davey. The NAACP called 'racist' and Disney are simply holding onto it until they figure out how to sell it despite its old stereotyping. There is absolutely nothing preventing Disney from releasing it except out of political correctness which is misguided, anyway (so Davey has THAT right, anyway). Disney have already released all their VERY non-PC war shorts, I reckon they'll get Leonard Maltin in again and release it as a Disney Treasure.
Judging from the drawing, it seems Davey has seen neither Song of the South OR Mary Poppins. 9_9
And if Marcie says 'pleased to meet you' once more, I'm gonna burn her Beanie Babies.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  353
11-22-2004 10:34 PM ET (US)
Rabbit : Can someone tell me what's going on in the restricted forum? I'm sure I don't want to know, but I'm an addict and I must get my fix.

DVK says:
"Er, Sue." Johnny said as she stares at Susan and her chest, her woman waves making him blush. "I don't think those berries are normal."

Sick Puppy says:
"She shakes her head and looks down at her chest and then at JB's reaction. W slightly she gives him a copy of his infamous grin and pops the second silver berry into her mought and eats it. "I remember seeing the silver berries being eatend by female who had barely noticable breasts and I have to admit I've wanted mine to be bigger now I can have that wish." She places his hands on her endowments and he could fell a vibration building in them then suddenly they began to swell in his hands and Susan was once again lost in the throws of the waves of pleasure they gave her."
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  352
11-22-2004 10:30 PM ET (US)
Bill: Brilliant idea! Screaming Scarlet PI LiveWire Latte bottles! Even though the thought of screwing off her head (ugh) sounds creepy, it might be even creepier if we just had the drink poor out of her mouth. Imagine DVK-style people drinking from those bottles then...

Careful, FK. one furry might be lurking and soon you'd see this idea in reality, making the furry rich at FurCons.
Rabbit  351
11-22-2004 10:22 PM ET (US)
I think the Mary Poopins (haha, I am funny) and voter fraud was refering to the fake Democratic voter registrations, where some guy was (I think) paid in crack cocaine to register people who didn't exist. One of whom was Mary Poppins. The neocons were all in a tizzy about it, apparently forgetting that anybody who showed up at the polls and said they were Mary Poppins or Mickey Mouse would be promptly laughed out. Not to mention all the dirty tricks the Republicans were pulling.

Can someone tell me what's going on in the restricted forum? I'm sure I don't want to know, but I'm an addict and I must get my fix.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  350
11-22-2004 09:39 PM ET (US)
Davey shouldn't be shot. He should be stripped naked, dragged through glass shards, bathed in lemon juice, sprinkled with salt, and forced to read MiSTed versions of his works until he breaks down bawling like the child he really is.

But shooting him would spare us having to go through all that, especially the naked part. And it'd be somewhat cleaner.

I'm surprised Davey didn't include fried chicken or some anti-Whitey bit in that priceless dialogue. I bet he'd just love "The Birth of a Nation."

As for the script, I'll take another glance at it and see what else I might suggest. (Did I already mention Todvid's robot arm?)

Bill: Brilliant idea! Screaming Scarlet PI LiveWire Latte bottles! Even though the thought of screwing off her head (ugh) sounds creepy, it might be even creepier if we just had the drink poor out of her mouth. Imagine DVK-style people drinking from those bottles then...
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  349
11-22-2004 09:38 PM ET (US)
The gelded hand line isn't by Davey

Yes, I know, it is by the guy that started the mature mouse sex forum we discussed the other day, breeeeeaaaassstttss!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  348
11-22-2004 09:19 PM ET (US)
All I'll say about "Whuffie" is that it's a concept Davey stole from someone else. Wow, shocker there, huh?

The gelded hand line isn't by Davey, btw. Some different shmuck with "Fox" in his name and marmalade in his skull.

"Lawdy, chile! Ah'm a-fxin' to fight dose dere tar babies, jes' as soon as Ah finishes up dis here dee-lishus wattymelon! MMM MMM!"
Davey must be shot.
And what the hell was that stuff about Mary Poppins and voter fraud? Is he saying that Bush stole the election? And I thought that a "nanny state" was a right-winger's nightmare.

So, no one has any feedback for the script, or are you all still thinking about it? I came up with one today: Instead of Davey throwing the sports drinks, he throws LiveWire Lattes, in the limited-edition Scarlett PI fox-shaped bottle. Her head screws off, of course. Maybe it talks, too ("Driiink Meee!")
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  347
11-22-2004 07:50 PM ET (US)
I agree... but it's a tricky insert. Let's try, in PAGE THREE, FIRST PANEL.
TEXT BOX: "Teh Rotten Laywer laughed at the Aminator and pointed to a cage. The crature inside geld out an hand and the sleve slid back revealing some curcuitry underneith."
...and the rest of the dialogue follows.

The lesson of the horribly crowded panel has not gone unheeded.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  346
11-22-2004 07:05 PM ET (US)
He geld out his hand and the sleve slid back revealing some of the curcuitry underneith

A gem on the Disney RPG from the 'Sick Puppy' that started the mouse porn on the DVK forums.
I think this would be a great line to add to one of the Phrack Whore panels that features Sonic with a robotic arm.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  345
11-22-2004 06:51 PM ET (US)
You have to love the scoring system DVK uses,
Adam: 720 points, 5,040 Whuffie
Daniel: 60 points, 50 Whuffie
Firestorm: 170 points, 285 Whuffie
Joplin: 30 points, 30 Whuffie
Kelly: 30 points, 30 Whuffie
Lily: 30 points, 30 Whuffie
Mickey: 160 points, 25,280 Whuffie
Monteblanc: 30 points, 30 Whuffie
Rich: 30 points, 30 Whuffie
Vixen: 40 points, 45 Whuffie; Todd has 40 points


Yes, the Self Insertion character is clearly in the lead, except that Mickey trumps him in the Whuffie department.
And what the hell is a Whuffie, OK don't tell me because I really don't think I want to know.

It sounds like a cutsie way of saying FART! Excuse me but I just did a Whuffie!
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  344
11-22-2004 06:51 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-22-2004 06:51 PM
Yegh... look how they're fawning over the guy, playing into his grimey hands and ADORING him!

Looks like that Rich Koster guy's a Bush fetishist. I mean, look at his avatar and sig.
Rabbit  343
11-22-2004 06:35 PM ET (US)
Davey's finally gotten back to work on Storm the Castle. It's stupid, horribly racist, and there's art! Yay!
Lilly von Ainley-Delgado  342
11-22-2004 06:19 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-22-2004 06:20 PM
(It's just a ref to my last LJ entry, Zef, not some arcane message re: skinniness. :)

Congrats, Bill, you got most of the folks in my class gathering around my kompyuter saying, "Awwwwh!" at the Byron photos--then in the interests of equal time, I had to show them Her Killsness' baby pix. Hey, I figured you were just the guy to make a bunch of girls squeal in rapturous adoration like that--hell, somebody's gotta do it. You've done your part.

I've kept a number of my more recent kitty pix to myself for the very reason that they also showed how messy my house is. Hear ya on that, bro.

PS: my classmate Dawn's sister's cat, a Siamese polydactyl, just had 6 kittens, all of which are extry-toed (though isn't it a recessive gene?). Dawn is giving one a home, but I told her she'll have to do a lot of work before sa petite is anywhere near as renowned or beloved as Senor B...
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  341
11-22-2004 02:53 PM ET (US)
Zef: Oh, Wacom's just a brand, but they're the dominant manufacturer of drawing tablets, like Adobe makes image software. Most people who own a Wacom tablet just call it a Wacom ;)

re Baggy Byron: I was a little disturbed by the green thing sitting next to the Paddle box on the floor.. is that a *chainsaw*? ;)
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  340
11-22-2004 02:36 PM ET (US)
Cats and low-grade wood pulp... what's better? Other than the classic PADDLE IV game! That's quite a collection of coolness you've got for the kids to frolic in.
Fal-chan  339
11-22-2004 02:02 PM ET (US)
Just wanted to comment that the Byron blogs are HYSTERICAL. He sounds like my kitty (gray AND white, beat that!).

Oi, the river Saskatchewan is a very nice river, thank-you-very-much. *is a former resident of Saskatoon*
Zefiel  338
11-22-2004 12:51 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-22-2004 12:52 PM
I like how Bill added 'Sneaky cats of mass destruction'.

Mimi, i thought Wacom was a brand, but everyone seems to mention these, so is it a brand or a technology? ...i couldn't do anything without my Logitech Optical Mouse™ ^-^
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  337
11-22-2004 11:36 AM ET (US)
*laughs her ass off at the Byron blog and pics, then picks it up and goes in search of a stapler*
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  336
11-22-2004 10:51 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-22-2004 10:51 AM
Bill-- Plaza, Mall... tomater, love-apple. Somewhere for addled consumers to get more addled, and possibly consumptive. Maybe you can add to the fun by sneaking over one night and setting up a few cheap toys around a picture of some toddler, giving the appearance of a child having been smashed flat by a Buick-pilotin' oldster. Not only will there be plenty more smash-ups as people try to make out what the pile of stuff is, but in a few days, there'll be a GIANT pile of stuff that you can glean some cat toys from.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  335
11-22-2004 10:43 AM ET (US)
*hugging Wacom 6x8 tablet*
Couldn't live without it ;)
I am spoilt now, so I admire anyone who can draw just using the mouse. (And yeah, there's the pencil, too ;))
Marc  334
11-22-2004 06:22 AM ET (US)
If I had to guess, the other page was created on a Mac, and they used "smart" quotes - and they don't translate well to a PC. It does all kinds of crazy things.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  333
11-22-2004 12:22 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-22-2004 12:23 AM
if you save, save lots for a BIG one. i think most good artists will tell you it's necessary for it to be big. i can't really do a lot with my small one, but possibly that's just me needing to practise more.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  332
11-22-2004 12:10 AM ET (US)
Zef: Aw, man, you have a tablet?! Well, a small one, yeah... but a tablet!

I need to save up for one. Oh, the possibilites...

A tablet PC would be pretty cool, too. *drool*
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  331
11-22-2004 12:06 AM ET (US)
Fistlekits: Drawing it entirely by mouse in Photoshop with a 2 pixel brush (anti-alias OFF, of course ;)) would, I imagine, probably help ENORMOUSLY with the suckage

Geez, that's my method!! only instead of turning antialiasing off i just use the pencil. what is now bugging me now is that I usually draw other non gonter stuff that way too. :p i have a graphic tablet, but it's 4x3 so it doesn't really get much usage.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  330
11-21-2004 11:11 PM ET (US)
Lilly:
"Byron and Kills will soon be getting something new to play with (or alternately, be terrified by) which is also an addition to their mommy's never-ending supply of inexplicia."

Yay! You can be that there'll be pictures of that encounter!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  329
11-21-2004 08:45 PM ET (US)
eRNST:
(oops, left the caps lock on after my Byron blogging)
"man, is driving past that mall obligatory for you?"

It's not a mall, it's a plaza. A small group of stores in a row with seperate entrances as part of 1 building, but, unlike a mall, not in the same building with interior entrances.
I could not drive past it, but it would add 5 minutes to the trip.

"Most places I know up put up some kind of "dangerous intersection" sign after a few accidents in the same place, maybe you should suggest it to your local council."

My local Council...OF DOOM!
"I, Lex Luthor, oppose a stop sign! In the name of EVIL!"
"Solomon Grundy like the smashy-smashes! Cars go boom crash!"

It's also not an intersection. The parking lot opens directly to the road. The problem is retards who pull out without looking (and I almost got hit AGAIN yesterday, in a different plaza, when someone backed up without looking). The really stupid part is that there's an intersection that the plaza opens on, and there's a stoplight on a sensor that changes to green after a car's there for about 15 seconds. Way easier than trying to make a left across 4 lanes of busy traffic, but no one uses it. (Except me, when I'm leaving it)
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  328
11-21-2004 08:00 PM ET (US)
And what browser were those first few pages supposed to viewed in?

Probably FireFox, ha ha ha ha, I crack myself up ;)

It looks like they are using a default european font of some sort and have not configured the page to inform the browser of this.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  327
11-21-2004 07:25 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-21-2004 07:27 PM
SteveM, you MUST do at least one panel with Stick Figure Gonty!

Rabbit, good point. But I think if Davey was going to find me, he would've found me long ago via the Jen White stuff. And there's no indication that he ever has. By which I mean, no screaming from him. That did go up in his old-meds days.

I Googled to see where the old page turned up, and it was neither buried nor at the top. (edit: And how could he find the project, since the text and the pic names won't mention his name?) I also came across another page mocking the first run of Scarlett. Some of the comments are funny, although it stops really quickly. And what browser were those first few pages supposed to viewed in? There's all these weird characters in the text.
Lilly von MrsNonSmoker  326
11-21-2004 07:04 PM ET (US)
I too would like to send up a hurried--frickin limited library kompyuter time!--hurray for Byron pix, w/or w/out commentary. Though you know, Bill, we do all so love the funny, and you do bring it so well.

I already told El Zefster about this, but Byron and Kills will soon be getting something new to play with (or alternately, be terrified by) which is also an addition to their mommy's never-ending supply of inexplicia. Provided I find my address book and get my ass to the post office this week, anyway.

Rock on witcher bad parodic selves, already!
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  325
11-21-2004 06:02 PM ET (US)
Hm, I never realized that about DVK's art. Great parody! *snicker* That hair...
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  324
11-21-2004 05:56 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-21-2004 05:56 PM
I was messing around in Paint, using only a mouse as I do not have a scanner.
Anyway I came up with StickMan Ver 1.0. The parody is that DVK spends so much time on the head and very little on the body.
Yes it sucks, but then I already warned you of my drawing inability!
Rabbit  323
11-21-2004 03:38 PM ET (US)
Ernst and Fistlekits: Wonderful! Love the script, love the cover. It's all so...so...bad. In a good way. If I didn't know better, I'd think that was actual Davey-kin's art.

Bill: Byron pics! Yay! Kitty pics make all the bad things go away.

As for linking, well, we're not in this for the fame and the glory. It's all about the funny. A little page tucked away where we can show it to other phrack-whores, but still keep it hidden from the Man himself, is more than sufficient.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  322
11-21-2004 01:05 PM ET (US)
Fistlekits: Drawing it entirely by mouse in Photoshop with a 2 pixel brush (anti-alias OFF, of course ;)) would, I imagine, probably help ENORMOUSLY with the suckage(not that your stuff hasn't been awesomely Sucking already!). The relative difficulty of drawing with a mouse would mean our annoying ability to contruct properly would be hampered somewhat ;)
Remember artists: Perspective Shmerspective! whoo!
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  321
11-21-2004 12:30 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the comments, y'all! I didn't think the atrocious cover would be so well received. :)

Zef: I just drew it all on paper. Doing a panel entirely in Photoshop would be pretty daunting... but I gotta try it!

Mimi: It was TRON? Whoops. No worry, I can edit it.

Ernst: The overcrowding thing didn't really come to mind--it just happened. I suspect the Spirit of Suck had something to do with it. (I hope he leaves as soon as we're done with this project; he's starting to suggest putting fox ears and tails on each of my characters in my other projects.)

So it's agreed? We look over the script for a week, suggest things, edit it, and then get to work? I'm for that. I think I need to recover from a whole day of trying to get the Gont down on a whole piece of paper, anyway.
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  320
11-21-2004 11:22 AM ET (US)
In reverse chronological order:
Steve-- Aren't you up at the same time as Bill because you're on the far side of the planet? ;-)
Fistlekits: Another voice in the choir of Super-awsum-ness. It's like you're channelling the Spirit of Suck! I forgot when suggesting onlookers that a crappily overloaded panel wouldn't be an impediment to DVK, and you didn't.
Mimi: That's a perfectly horrifying banner. And thus perfect also.
Bill: On the [Comments], complete agreement, especially the exclamations. It struck me last night (while taking out garbage, oddly enough), "DAMN! Someone should have said 'Holy Schotz!'" I'll claim distraction at work for the screw-up on the castle.
And completely off team-talk-- man, is driving past that mall obligatory for you? Is there a Discount Factory Ether Outlet location there, handing out samples? Most places I know up put up some kind of "dangerous intersection" sign after a few accidents in the same place, maybe you should suggest it to your local council.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  319
11-21-2004 11:10 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-21-2004 11:12 AM
O_O *bows down in worship to Fistlekits*
Damn, that is GOOD! I mean BAD!

oop, except I thought we'd agreed on the negative being TRON, not snow white?
I kind of see what Bill's getting at - we should suck, but not so that you couldn't tell the difference between us and the Gont himself. If it's too close, he'd probably ADMIRE it! ;)
If I draw panels, I'll be MOCKING how bad he is...giving the girls K-size tits and all that ;)

Bill: well you never specified what the logo was FOR! If you meant a logo for actually putting on the page where we post the completed comic, then fine. But given that we're kinda hidden here and tend to want to keep a safe distance from Gont, I didn't think of a full title page banner.
Marc  318
11-21-2004 09:24 AM ET (US)
The Todvid comic book cover is quite possibly the funniest thing I have seen in a while! The "art" and text are perfect, congrats!! Now if the word "harrible" could be worked in there...
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  317
11-21-2004 03:47 AM ET (US)
I love you, Steve, I love you to bill, not in that man-man love kind of way, but you know ;)

man, homophobia lives on ;)

Anyway, this weekend was gramma's partay and since mexico's matriarchy-based, it was a big deal, no time to draw or do much.

Still Fistlekits, that's AWESOME! i'd really like to know your process, it's it all CG? when i did those spoofs way back i didn't care much and just moused them, 'cept for the last one which i drew and scanned. i really dig the nice black line, and the whole thing could pass for original gonterman, this is what she meant by stressing over every little line. obviously you've studied his style a lot. i'm really amazed.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  316
11-21-2004 02:12 AM ET (US)
Topic switch:

Just got this link from my brother-in-law. It is of one of the most spectacular car racing crashes I have ever seen.

Wow, the guy does walk away from the wreck.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  315
11-21-2004 02:08 AM ET (US)
I love you, Steve, I love you to bill, not in that man-man love kind of way, but you know ;)

Can't wait for pics of Byron, I don't mean to impose, but could you possibly do some Byron commentary to accompany the pics. I always nearly wet myself reading Byrons comments!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  314
11-21-2004 01:54 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-21-2004 01:55 AM
"I just thought that DKV characters had four things in common"

Yes, but remember: There are different artists, and part of the fun is that they're going to change styles. And it's not going to be possible for people with talent to suck as bad as Davey does. The hardest job an actor can do, they say, is to act deliberately badly and without it seeming deliberate. I believe the same is true of artists and writers.

Plus, it's just FUNNY! (to me, anyway) Can you imagine Davey composing that scene? Dude can't draw straight lines. Our artists slave to look like shit, and they're STILL better!

UNRELATED:
Assuming that they came out viewable, there will be some funny pics I just took of Byron tomorrow!

edit:
I love you, Steve--You and Zef are the only people still awake when I am.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  313
11-21-2004 01:35 AM ET (US)
Fine, fine, I just thought that DKV characters had four things in common, v-groins, mullets, sausage body parts and heel mouths.

We SUCK, but we suck BETTER, well that ain't gonna be hard!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  312
11-21-2004 01:29 AM ET (US)
SteveM:
"your mouths should look more like shoe heels"

I HAVE DISAGREEMENTS! Oh you are with so wrong!! Cleerly, HOUR art dhould look lik Davey's but its funnyer when it lokks BETTERER! Maybe you should share a tub of ice cream with MICHEL MOORE, nuff said!!!!

No, seriously. Make it look DAVEY but make it look COMPETENT. That's the sword's point of our satire: We SUCK, but we suck BETTER!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  311
11-21-2004 01:24 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-21-2004 01:32 AM
F'kits:
AHAHAHAHA! That is awesome! Whoops, I mean " its phracking the bestly!"
I like the name tags on Stan and Roy, cuz how else you gonna tell the diff?
(edit: If you can change it, the name of the movie's now TRON)

Mimi:
It's funny, but I didn't mean "banner ad." That'd be good for linking, but I meant something HUGEOUS. Y'know, running the width of the page and looking vaguely corporate or something. As always, I will bow to the Will of the People.
Please use the Diebold machines for voting (evil cackle!).

Linking...Umm, is this our private joke? I think that it should at least get an Inexplicable Link of the Week (of several years ago) on Tod's page. It will spread slowly that way. But I think that's what we'd want. Who the hell besides us is going to get the joke anyway, and who wants Mr Davey PissesHisPants to find out?

UNRELATED: Now watching a boot DVD of Bakshi's otherwise-unreleased '66 series "The Mighty Heroes" that I found on eBay. Anyone else ever seen these? (This is the first time since childhood that I have, and I'm lovin' them! Of course, I'm also a big fan of Cool MacCool and Roger Ramjet from the same period. At least a few animators tried to carry on Jay Ward's torch after the demise of Bullwinkle)
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  310
11-21-2004 01:24 AM ET (US)
Fistlekits, one small concrit from a non-artist, your mouths should look more like shoe heels, sort of D like, see this.

Great logo Mimi, Team Phrack Whores Away!
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  309
11-21-2004 01:03 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-21-2004 01:04 AM
And here be my cover... art...

http://ellie.twu.net/art/greenterman/greenterman-cover.jpg

I might redo the whole thing if I decide that I don't like it. (In fact, now that I think of it, I think I misinterpreted the idea of the Che beret having Mickey Mouse ears on it. I have the emblem, yeah, but the actual ears?...)

Oh, well. We could always change the beret in-comic. ;)

I'll color this and add credits later if we decide to keep it.

And I love the Phrack Whore logo, Mimi! Gaudy and horrenodous--whoops, horrendous!

EDIT: You'll notice I took a few liberties. Nasty liberties.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  308
11-21-2004 12:30 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-21-2004 12:31 AM
Anyone, including the nonartisitics, want to be comming twoard a awsum "Team Phrack Whore" logo that the sight could wrear?
Oo! Me! Memememememememe! *hand ramrod-stiff in the air, Hermione-like*
I like doing logos :)

Okay, here we go. quick and dirty, but then so's our subject.
WHAA!.
Needless to say, if something classier is required, then we don't HAVE to use this of course ;)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  307
11-20-2004 11:38 PM ET (US)
http://www.thoughtviper.com/gontervault/phrack.htm

...And there she is. Team Phrack Whore's first draft of our Work of Beauty.

There a few minor points made by me [in brackets] in it. I guess everyone else's comments go to...the Comments, right here.

I really like Ernst's plot. Let's debate any major suggestions (by which I mean better jokes--funny as it is, we may have ideas that make it funnier--and I can't believe he left out the final POO JOKE! I put it back in) for...what, a week or so? Artists can add whatever/whenever they want. I guess that the new "rule" is that as soon as someone announces that they're drawing a panel, the kibitzing about that one is over.

I, for one, would want at least one full-fledged Davey rant in there. The best place would be in the hat-listening scene. If no one can come up with a new one, it might be even funnier to simply reprint that crap from MouseJerx about Sonic no longer being a good role model. And with a footnote stating "Actual Daveykins quote."

Due attribution suggestion: Ernst will get full writing credit, "with additional suggestions by..." anybody who adds any, on the main title page. Artists will get credit under every panel they draw (prly in eeensy H5-sized text, so it'd be a good idea for you to sign/watermark your work), using whatever alias they want (and "Anon" is acceptable). As always, let me know if you have a better idea.

Anyone, including the nonartisitics, want to be comming twoard a awsum "Team Phrack Whore" logo that the sight could wrear?
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  306
11-20-2004 11:10 PM ET (US)
The urge to perfect every little line is overwhelming.
Isn't that a little contrary to the notion behind this opus?
My word processor is fastmail.fm
Ahhhh. The price of spamlessness!
Brrrrrraaaainsssss!
...oh, wait. That's me. I'd better get some sleep. Stupid up-at-5am shift.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  305
11-20-2004 09:39 PM ET (US)
I'm finally home from work. Give me some time to settle in, and I'll put up a page with Ernst's script.

My word processor is fastmail.fm. I guess it can only read txt and html files.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  304
11-20-2004 06:21 PM ET (US)
Ugh... I've been working on the cover all day (in between eating, doing homework, and the like, of course). The urge to perfect every little line is overwhelming.

I'm about 1/3 done. Gotta finish sketching it, then ink it and scan it.

I third "Team Phrack Whore" as our creative group name!
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  303
11-20-2004 03:52 PM ET (US)
I second 'Team Phrack Whore', too. Keep the In Joke a distinctly In Joke ;)
Ah, I THOUGHT you mean Pearl Forrester..

Maybe if Ernst and Bill nut out the BASIC script, and whoever does each panel can make their own small tweaks (with tenses and spelling and so on) to 'Gonterise' it further. If we all keep tossing in corrections now, Ernst will never finish correcting it. Give the guy a break ;)
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  302
11-20-2004 09:06 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-20-2004 09:37 AM
OK, I'm now TXTulating the former RTF(Rich Text File-- what the hell kind of word-pro does Bill have that can't read that?!). I'll have it off to Our Supervisor in a few minutes... but of course I have to do some edits now ;-> I promise to monkey with tenses while I'm at it.

Pearl/Rose is an indication of how long it's been since I watched MST and how little I liked those latter seasons. FIXING IT!

EDIT: Oh, almost forgot; just because I had a yoggle of free time yesterday doesn't mean I want total writing credits! Add! Suggest! Change! Deny!

LATER EDIT: OK, txt version away! And I COMPLETELY forgot to change the film to TRON. Duh.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  301
11-20-2004 02:49 AM ET (US)
I like 'team phrack whore'. i'm also maybe quitting my 12 hour a day, $4.5 for a day job soon. because it's too lame, but it'll give me time to help y'all. now i need sleep.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  300
11-20-2004 01:12 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-20-2004 01:29 AM
Yeah, Ernst is blowing us all away! (Or is he Clinton-jobbing us all away?)

Another snippet without all that code, based on the "Viet Congses send a pig after somebody":

LAWYER: Let's see how fast you are now that Sonic chases you! We stolen the
copywrite on him and now he is angry but with our control! He's in a wild rage!

My only quibble with Ernst's script: It stays in the proper tense throughout! Where's our beloved past/present/future switches?

edit: I'm sure the stress of writing like Davey made Ernst type "Rose Forrester" when he meant "Pearl." Although that's just the type of detail Davey would screw up. Ernst, was that intentional?

Just a note...I understand she's busy with other things, but where's Negaduck? I was sure she'd at least leave some commentary on "Team Phrack Whore"'s first project...
(I was thinking of naming the group collaboration that. Or maybe the "World Gontorrhea Council." Are those good, or are there any other ideas?)
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  299
11-20-2004 12:40 AM ET (US)
Minor script nitpick: I'd have Davey call Eisner 'Mikey' instead. He seems to do that a lot.
Even better, have Eisner threatening to torch TRON ;)
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  298
11-20-2004 12:38 AM ET (US)
Fistlekits: And scan it as B&W, NOT greyscale, for that luvly jagged un-aliased badness ;)
I dunno, I think Davey uses at LEAST Paint Shop Pro. He uses DEFAULT gradient fills.
Rabbit  297
11-20-2004 12:23 AM ET (US)
Fistlekits: It's all yours, as long as you remember to color it in MSPaint.

Ernst: Best. Script. EVER.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  296
11-20-2004 12:07 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-20-2004 12:10 AM
Ernst sent me his start, but it's in a format that I don't know how to read without squinting (What's .rtf? I truly know nothing about computers) I'm hoping he'll send it in a different format, but here's the cover blurb:
(edit: Let's try that again. I'll just scrape the weird stuff away, except for the first one)

}{\plain \fs24 TITLE, LARGE PRINT: Todvid Greenterman: Super Mouseketeer\par
}{\plain \fs24 TEXT BOX, UPPER LEFT: (bold)Action like no action before! The world's
imagination is captured by a new hero! The Mightiest man ever, who used to be a mild
mannered teenage artist, races to the rescue of the beleegerd Magic Kingdom! The War
for America's Imagenation is underway, and this super-soldier will win!
FOREGROUND: Extremely masculine adult Todvid, wearing mid-60's combat fatigues
and a beret in the manner of Che Guevara, with disney-style "Mouse Ears"on the hat,
engages in hand-to-hand combat with Osama Bin Ladin and Rose Forrester. A powerful
mullet flows from beneath his hat. Lower right, looking on in horror or rage, is Micheal
Eisner, waving a '30's style blowtorch near a reel of film. The visible lid of the film can
is labelled "Snow White Orig. Negative."
TODVID: Once I've dealt with of Osama and Rose, I'm taking care of you for good,
Eisner!
BACKGROUND: Watching the foreground action, in attitudes of adoration, as many of
the following as will fit: Scarlet the Fox, Johnny Briz, Mickey Mouse, Roy Disney, Stan
Lee, any number of DVK's previous self-insertion characters, an Asian woman in a
schoolgirl outfit.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  295
11-19-2004 11:56 PM ET (US)
I'd like to do it. If the other artists wanna do it, too, I'll roshambo with 'em. ;)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  294
11-19-2004 11:53 PM ET (US)
Who wants to do the cover?
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  293
11-19-2004 11:39 PM ET (US)
I'm gonna try just using my left hand next time. Behind my back.

I'm talking about drawing here, don't be filthy ;p
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  292
11-19-2004 11:21 PM ET (US)
I think I can "improve" it a bit if I hold my pencil like a three year old and don't use construction lines. And close my eyes. And blow my nose on the paper.

And have a friend bind your fingers together with heavy bandages! I think I'll ask my roommate to do the same for me. Sure, holding the pencil will be a bitch, but it just might get that classic Gontie look we're all striving for.
Rabbit  291
11-19-2004 11:17 PM ET (US)
<snip repulsive yet amusing bit of mousey roleplay>

I think I just laughed so hard I threw up. Not really, though it would have been funny if I had. Of course, whenever someone talks about their fractured past, their breasts swell. That's logic.

Thank you all for the kind words about my art. I've had a bad couple of days art-wise and it's strangely comforting to hear that my competency ruins my Davey art. I think I can "improve" it a bit if I hold my pencil like a three year old and don't use construction lines. And close my eyes. And blow my nose on the paper.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  290
11-19-2004 10:54 PM ET (US)
C'mon, Gont... what do Berries do to Johnny? Probably make his WHISKERS grow or something lame ;p

I'm betting they give him a better, 80ish mullet. that or they turn him into a retro Mickey look.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  289
11-19-2004 10:34 PM ET (US)
Nice play on words, Ernst!
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  288
11-19-2004 10:30 PM ET (US)
shoot it up to thoughtviper
You should know better than anyone that we phrack-whores prefer smoking the product, but whatever floats your boat ;-)
Done and done.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  287
11-19-2004 09:46 PM ET (US)
OMG WTF!!!! I don't believe it!
THE MAYOR DOESN'T HAVE A MULLET!!!
The nose-hair moustache makes up for it.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  286
11-19-2004 09:43 PM ET (US)
Ernst:
Yeah, shoot it up to thoughtviper at fastmail.fm
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  285
11-19-2004 07:32 PM ET (US)
an odd pressure in my chest. and centered in my breeeeeaaasssstssss.

It's called Angina love!
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  284
11-19-2004 07:19 PM ET (US)
*types in 'sterning' to see the pain.. even though Steve has already pasted it*

*picks self up from floor, trying to breath again after laughing fit*

Oh Jebus, wtf?? Berries for breeeeeeeasssssssstsssss!!!!
C'mon, Gont... what do Berries do to Johnny? Probably make his WHISKERS grow or something lame ;p
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  283
11-19-2004 04:45 PM ET (US)
There is a new entry in Mousey Mayhem, the DVK mature forum. It makes the grammar in LiveWire look perfectly acceptable.
I have a REALLY bad feeling it was typed in one handed.

Anyway, skip the text below if this does not interest you, here it comes;

Sick Puppy wrote:
"I was think about my fractured past." She replies. "And it's conntectiom to a bush that grows these." She pulls out of the skirt pocket a handfull of berries that were of colors that berries normally weren't. She held up a silver colored one and adds, "I had one of these and began to feel an odd pressure in my chest. and centered in my breeeeeaaasssstssss." She half closes her eyes as her breasts swells slightly sending a pleasurable wave throughout her body.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  282
11-19-2004 04:38 PM ET (US)
"Tara's with her out in back" gets my vote as well, it would have been even better if you included the "two'll".
The 29 word, no punctuation, mega-sentence in panel one should also get an honourable mention.
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  281
11-19-2004 03:30 PM ET (US)
Man, my fingers hurt. Relatively slow day at work turned into the 45 panels of preliminary WHATEVER THE HELL THE TITLE IS, DISNEY ANARCHIST! script. So, mighty Bill, shall I send this to you via the emailophone? It's an AWFUL lot of text to post right here....
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  280
11-19-2004 01:19 PM ET (US)
What the hell's with the lone hand in the last panel? And what is it grabbing? Is it coming through an open door? Is it some sort of portal? Has it been severed?

"Tara's with her out in back" wins my vote.

Vote, or the grammar terrists win! (Ha ha! Oh, nonsensical modified topical humor!)
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  279
11-19-2004 01:11 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-19-2004 01:11 PM
Woohoo, New Livewire!.. wait, what am I saying? *dons welding mask to shield from the pain*

Okay, when did the MAYOR arrive?? And why am I not the least bit surprised to see Jim/Roy back again?....
This town is so dead, the mayor has nothing better to do but be Adam's whipping boy for finding 'cheap' accomodation.
Adam: Eh, she's Japanese, a shoebox will do!
Hmm.. Johnny's profile is becoming less Bluth and more disney every day. Is that a Mickey nose or what?

Iiii don't get it. What is so bad about being put up in Vegas 5 star hotels as a living arrangement? Sounds like a peachy setup to me!
Painful Grammar Finalists:
care to tell me what's she like, tho'
Tara's with her out in back..
Cast your votes.

BWA-HA-HAAA... it's FEMALE ADAM in the bottom right frame! all that's missing are boobs.
I don't think I WANT to know what fetish Davey is going to have Nitwit dressed in when that door opens....
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  278
11-19-2004 01:02 PM ET (US)
For Young Davey reference, try looking up 'Lost Boy Found' on Foxfire.

No, we shouldn't depict transformations, I think. That was part of SGB's great badness. The shirking from anything remotely challenging to draw ;)
Yup. Sounds like Davey. When in doubt, draw weird blobby shapes as though he's in a lava lamp and make with the weird-ass onomatopoeia :)
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  277
11-19-2004 11:48 AM ET (US)
I'm going with "Young Man" until told otherwise. Ooooopen ended.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  276
11-19-2004 11:34 AM ET (US)
Agreed, Tod is Davey.

So we're just dealing with a beret with mouse ears attached to it? Cool. Although we don't get to see Todvid change into a female fox... actually, that's probably better.

One question: is Todvid a little kid or a thirtysomething society reject? Wait a minute, what am I saying? Kids and adults look alike in Davey's world!
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  275
11-19-2004 10:13 AM ET (US)
Noted: Goofy beret in the text! I'll let the artist community decide it the untidy facial hair of revolution is appropriate.

...and let's be honest, Bill dun be de massa. I'm just one of the uppity readin' types.
(Wow. Is this ever an uncomfortable idiom.)
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  274
11-19-2004 10:03 AM ET (US)
I think, since Davey has claimed himself (adam) as a proud..*cough*..."anarchist" of Disney, maybe we could think Che Guevara-ish for the military slant. The green beret stays, but add Mickey ears to it.

Ernst: Don' beat me massa! I'll be bad! I'll be ba-aaaaaad *sniffle*
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  273
11-19-2004 09:41 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-19-2004 09:45 AM
Actually, we could just let Ernst write and Fistlekits and Zef draw, and we'd probably be fine!
Curse you, Tod Booster... er, I mean Bill the Splut! And some for you as well, Steve! Stand up for yourself!

OK, that's out of my system. Mimi & Rabbit, super cool art also, although I think Rabbit's competence is showing ;-) Zef-- I didn't mean a fox-head. Just a hat. More upsetting that way.

So, are we going to gather the stuff here, or should we establish external venue(s)? I'll write plenty goodly, but I want some direction from the talented components of the affair. Who's who/what? Is (pleasepleaseplease) anyone else going to contribute text? Stuff from outside the original comic?! Yipe!

Anyway, I'm going to start noodling on a theme, and amend as necessary with suggestions/demands/additions as they occur. Previously mooted fanfic, to the back burner!

EDIT: Oh, crap, another seemingly obvious item! It's not a military beret-- it's one of those damn ear-bearin' beanies! Todvid Greenterman, SUPER MOUSEKETEER!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  272
11-19-2004 02:41 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-19-2004 02:43 AM
Okay, I really need to go to bed.

Final thought: Tod is Davey. That's it. And that's the only rule.
Change who's who as much as you want. Uncle Roger or Mom or the monk or the Jungle Wizard is whoever you want them to be.
We ain't shooting for coherence here, just a pure Daveykins-inspired insanity mashup.

If you have a several-panel joke, just claim several panels. (edit: even if they're not several panels in the original; just add a bunch) I think I'm going to use that rant at the end of "Mouseworx" as a basis for several panels (if my terrible stick figure drawings can sustain it).
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  271
11-19-2004 01:10 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-19-2004 01:14 AM
"Seeing as I can't write or draw worth shit"
SteveM, you have just nominated yourself for the stick figure drawing panel!
As seen in the previous commentary from real artisits artists (Gonterspelling is catching!), it's hard to draw bad when you draw goodily. Someone who can't draw is what's needed for our Stick Figure Theater! Which I think is required, as we need tiny drawings to accompany at least one long, rambling, incoherent Davey jaw-dropper speech about wrestlers blowing up the WTC because "Murder in Small Town X" was cancelled.

Twoard, and also wrear and comming.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  270
11-19-2004 01:07 AM ET (US)
Is it a coincidence that I bought "The Idiot's Guide to Creating a Graphic Novel" last night? (Bought it since I'm planning on writing/drawing one myself.) But I guess I'll have to shelve it while I'm working on this project.

Man, I love all the ideas coming in! I'll post another sketch or two in the morning.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  269
11-19-2004 12:54 AM ET (US)
Seeing as I can't write or draw worth shit, I will only contrib the occasional GoterWord.

We need to fit 'twoard' in there somewhere.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  268
11-19-2004 12:54 AM ET (US)
meh, Rabbit, Fistlekits, Mimi, posers! you can see the TALENT through your pictures still! you have to work harder on making it worse! I'm worrying that because i'm still so unexperienced/untalented is the only reason i can emulate him to a closer degree. or maybe because (like on the lil strips BIll wrote) i just think ' i can't do WORSE than him' (but end up looking alike) i don't know, i need sleep.

Ok, ok, was Ernst's idea to have a super magical zoot head instead of a beret? i think that'd suit the history better, but i don't know if that's what Ernst meant. as i said,i need sleep.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  267
11-19-2004 12:36 AM ET (US)
"What about the obvious and make Uncle Roy the Uncle?"

PERFECT! Although he'll have to wear--I'm sorry, wrear--a nametag, since DVK always draws him like Stan Lee in a badly-rendered suit.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  266
11-19-2004 12:25 AM ET (US)
What about the obvious and make Uncle Roy the Uncle? Cuz after Uncle Roger gives Tod the beret and Tod starts with the whacky stuff, all Roger does is look on in horror. I'm sure Roy would do the same thing if he saw what Davey has done to Disney ;)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  265
11-19-2004 12:18 AM ET (US)
From the comments on Davey's last 2 Deviant submissions:

"If you see any errors there, yes it was the schedule again." And the problem with that couch you can see through Goodlow's legs is blamed on "foreshortening," a word I'm astonished to see that Davey not only knows, but can spell. He prly just cut&pasted it from a Sonic fanart website.

No wonder he voted for Bush. Everything he does wrong is someone else's fault.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  264
11-18-2004 11:34 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-18-2004 11:43 PM
"Too dumb? Never mind."

Too dumb...for a Gonterman parody? Is that even possible?
Of course, Super Gonty Beret would have a robotic arm! It could be one of his lil' magic tricks. Also, "the Star-Mech Armor" and "the Davey Crockett Zoot." Let's face it, no way Sonic and the Sailor aren't going to write themselves into this. And Mickey. He could be the monk who gets rescued, and then acts completely out of character.

"Too good"?

Nah. Maybe it's just me, but I think an ever-changing visual style would make it better. To abruptly go from Davey-style to stick figures drawn with pencil to actual TALENTED ARTWORK would not only be funny, it would also point out our main complaint about HackBoy: His work never "imporves."

edit: Oh, you want that on "Uncle Daveykins."
We need to decide who's who here. I love Ernst's perfectly-Daveylicious idea of Tod being the self-insertion. So who is Uncle Roger? It can't be Davey, because then there'd be 2...self...insertions...
WOO. It just writes itself, don't it?
MULTIPLE DAVEY CLONES! ALL the good guys could be Davey! Squad of US soldiers: Goodlow, Pacbell, Kintobor, Kronos, Crockett...they're the Band of Mulletted Brothers. And they're ALL "internet cartoonists from St Louis"!
Except his Mom, who will have to be Davey as a woman as a fox or some other dementia. Hey, she could be Gadget!
Just a thought. We're still "brainstorming" like DVK does here.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  263
11-18-2004 11:18 PM ET (US)
Oo! Oo! May I suggest that Uncle Daveykins has a robot arm from the Great Robot or Something Other War that takes place in Disney World?

Too dumb? Never mind.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  262
11-18-2004 11:14 PM ET (US)
I'm with Fistelkits, Rabbit - it's too good ;) Mine could stand to be worse, too, I know...
It's not easy, is it??!!

The nipples are not present when fur is present, tho'...
But agreed, mandatory camel toes, unbending inflated legs and iron-feet are musts. Or if female, chunky unbalanced hi-heels.
The typical Davey body looks like a balloon animal with a rubber band tightly wrapped around the general waist area ;)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  261
11-18-2004 11:02 PM ET (US)
Worst sidebar ad ever:
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And you only pay them $35!
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  260
11-18-2004 10:33 PM ET (US)
Rabbit: Dang, that's almost too good. You do have a lot of good points about the drawing style, though; everpresent nipples, V-shaped crotches, and horribly rigid, barely bendable legs.

I'm gonna start sketching a few panels tonight, just to get the feel of it. It'll give me something to do while waiting on my laundry, besides.

Aside: I finally realized that "concrit" is "constructive criticism." Shortening words like that is jurestup (just really stupid).
Rabbit  259
11-18-2004 10:20 PM ET (US)
Alright, here's my meager attempt. I didn't have any reference materials, so it's mostly just what I could remember.

I feel so dirty.
Rabbit  258
11-18-2004 09:04 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-18-2004 09:44 PM
Mimi, you are also GENIUS! Except I think it's still too well-drawn. (Maybe if you drew with the wrong hand, or just shoved the pencil up your bum.)

I did some sketches earlier, I'll put them up whenever I get around to scanninng them. I have a friend who is verging on Gonter-obsessive, maybe I can recruit her for some help too. *evil thoughts*
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  257
11-18-2004 09:02 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-18-2004 11:27 PM
Mimi:
BWA HAHAAHA!
Yes, let's not forget retarded sound fx!

The Jungle Wizard will of course be played by Stan Lee.

edit: I also declare valid NOT drawing. ie, you find an apropos picture of Uncle Roger Rodeo Clown bronco-busting that peccary, it's acceptable.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  256
11-18-2004 09:01 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-18-2004 09:09 PM
Mimina: Holy crap, that's good!! You even added the special effects text!

Bill: *going into super dramatic mode that she's famous for* Yes, 'tis I! I ventured forth into your arena of merriment under guise for--*gasp*--I could not show my true form at first... oh, well. It was gonna come out sooner or later. ;)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  255
11-18-2004 09:00 PM ET (US)
As project coordinator, I declare Ernst's version now officially canon. Cuz it was so funny and Daveylike!
Other than the basic concept, who cares how coherent it is. Like Davey's plots always make sense, right? I'll start keeping a list of who's claimed what panel for writing and/or drawing and I guess we'll get slapdashedly started.
As to the drawing, I think it would add the humor and surreality if there was a mix of styles, including non-Davey ones. Stick figures would be fine for his tribute album. However, Fistlekits was a good primer on his style. I never caught the nose thing before...
Actually, we could just let Ernst write and Fistlekits and Zef draw, and we'd probably be fine!

'kits: You're Ellie! I never knew that.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  254
11-18-2004 08:57 PM ET (US)
(Michael Palin voice)You bastards!! You filthy jabby BASTARDS!!
LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!

for what it's worth, the heel of my hand did not touch the paper ONCE as I drew this. It's the only way I could make it bad ;p
Lavender Gray  253
11-18-2004 07:03 PM ET (US)
Oh yeah, and I've written Zim slash. On the one hand, I'm proud I actually finished a story, on the other, I'm depressed for obvious reasons.
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/704116/
Lavender Gray  252
11-18-2004 06:59 PM ET (US)
i love the note, "god-awful coloring."
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  251
11-18-2004 06:55 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-18-2004 07:04 PM
Ah, it's nothing to worry about, Mimina. There is a burning, itching sensation between your fingers, but it goes away as soon as you stop drawing.

Rabbit: I'd love to see other people's DVKesque art! Go for it!

ADDED: To the writers, might I suggest plopping wrestlers and terrorists into the mix? Maybe terrorists plan to blow up Cinderella's castle and the WWF is called in by Todvid (I love that name!) to help beat them up?
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  250
11-18-2004 06:15 PM ET (US)
I am frankly SCARED to try Davey art. I feel like I'd have to sterilise my hand afterwards and burn the pencils ;p
Rabbit  249
11-18-2004 02:19 PM ET (US)
Fistlekits: You are GENIUS!

Damn, now I'm gonna have to try my hand at some Davey art.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  248
11-18-2004 02:13 PM ET (US)
But she is wearing pants... well, in at least one of the tiny sketches.

Crap, I must have DVK down!
Ernst Bitterman  247
11-18-2004 02:07 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-18-2004 02:12 PM
GAAAH! Brilliant similacra, really. Yes, I suppose some kind of super-green transgenderfication should be part of the whole affair as well.... Call me conventional, I guess. For the uniform question, there should at least be pants, for no other reason than to keep a vague notion of military-ness in place. Any Froggie surrender-monkey can wear a beret, after all, but only real soldier guys wear baggy pants with gobs of pockets.

{edit: of course, the android fox COULD be a replacement for the magic monkeys-- then Super Gont Beret would have a less auto-erotic focus of his affections. *erk* Or maybe... the HAT is a sentient item of clothing with all the desires a long-time virgin attributes to the opposite sex. All together now: EEEUW!}
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  246
11-18-2004 01:58 PM ET (US)
C'mon, even us decent artists can make crappy art sometimes!

http://ellie.twu.net/art/sgfa/sgfa-sketch01.jpg

And I have proof! Please excuse my horrid writing. And yes, I drew all this in a notebook, and before I read Ernst's ideas.

Changes will be made as more ideas pour in.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  245
11-18-2004 01:42 PM ET (US)
Lavender: The Disney-Dali 'Destino' short is old news. Was one of the last things Roy Disney worked on before his resignation. The short was nominated in this year's Oscars.
The animation nuts are still waiting for a DVD release.

Sorry for my non-participating in the Super Green Furry fun. Stuff to do...
Ernst Bitterman  244
11-18-2004 12:32 PM ET (US)
Just occurred to me:
there are a couple of excellent artists on board (oh, you know who you are, you girls of the female persuasion), it might be a fun communal project if even the people who can't draw (like me) joined in.
Wouldn't it be more in the spirit of the thing if the non-drawing writers did the art, and the non-writing artists handled the script? ;-)
Ernst Bitterman  243
11-18-2004 11:59 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-18-2004 12:10 PM
I don't know how long this Raptavio person's knife is, but is sure is sharp.

Boy, the Nodd Crap-Ton project is both tempting AND daunting. I'm going to approach this from the viewpoint that Todd himself is the obvious self-insertion point (OW!)... OK, let's try the panel immediately after the assless young version leaves the house to try on the hat. Please assume spelling errors intentional

TODVID GREENTERMAN: (now an adult in military uniform, with a mullet, triangular fox-ears sticking up through unseen holes in beret, and a black gum-drop nose. Slightly crosseyed): Holy Smoke! All... big! Im now feeling like a millon dallars! And my sense of smell and hearing are super!
UNCLE ROGER: (agape) GRATE SCOTT! Even in the US Army, I have never seen such a manly figure! You will teach a big lesson to all those Vietcong and other terrists, I'll bet! And the rest of us Green Berets will have a lot of competition for ladies, too...
-NEXT PANEL-
TODVID: (now in profile, a big bushy tail can be seen emerging just below the belt-line) I'll soon find out! HEY, STUMPS! Turn to poo! If this wirks, I'll get all the bullies in the world next.
ROGER: Todykins, you shouldn't make big piles of poo in your parent's back yard!
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  242
11-18-2004 11:34 AM ET (US)
I'm up for it. Let's prove we can make a piece of shit!

Count me in! I'm already thinking of character designs. I could sketch some, scan them, and ftp them to my site today.

I just gotta resist the urge to make them look decent.
Lavender Gray  241
11-18-2004 04:24 AM ET (US)
And, in GOOD animation news, a Disney/Dali collaboration:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1462300
Lavender Gray  240
11-18-2004 04:17 AM ET (US)
Michael Barrier: Why is an animated Ralph Bakshi's time on the pot the centerpiece of one of your recent episodes?

John Kricfalusi: Obviously you haven't spent a lot of time with Ralph Bakshi. This cartoon is not about poo. It's about being pulled into the world of a fellow as compelling, startling, sentimental, and dangerous as Ralph Bakshi.

AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA! My lungs! This guy is yea close to replacing Daviekins in my heart. (And yes, he IS being serious.)
Lavender Gray  239
11-18-2004 03:43 AM ET (US)
Ren and Stimpy porn:

http://renandstimpy.thetma.com

Just, you know, cover your eyes before you look at it.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  238
11-18-2004 01:33 AM ET (US)
Here is my first attempt at it.
The panel is here. I tries to photoshop some DVK style faces onto it but my PS skillz suck donkeys balls, so I left it alone.

Here is the text;

TOD: TELL ME ALL ABOUT THE DISNEYLAND BATTLES YOU WERE IN UNCLE DAVID!

U/D: SURE TOD! TAKE A SEAT! WELL FIRST OFF, THERE WAS THE TIME THAT ME AND JB, MY PLAGIARIZED MOUSE, TOOK ON A WHOLE BUNCH OF THE DISNEY LEGAL DEMONS! I ALMOST HAD TO CALL ON MY SUPER MAGIC MONKEY POWERS FOR THAT ONE, LUCKILY MICKEY AND HIS MATES SHOWED UP AND WE BEAT THE SNOT OUTA THEM!
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  237
11-18-2004 01:10 AM ET (US)
Yeah, I will have a go at one, probably one of the 'brother from the army' panels, I want to use a lot of exclamation marks !!!!111!!!!!!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  236
11-18-2004 01:03 AM ET (US)
Let's test the viability of the concept by "roboticizing" a few panels. If it works, we'll flesh it out. (Not to the length of the original TH:SGB, which is way too long for its slim story as it is)

Again, everyone's welcome to play. Pick a panel to write or draw and have a go at it.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  235
11-18-2004 12:52 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-18-2004 12:55 AM
awright!

*excitedness tho he knows his artistic skills won't be much useful.. ^-^;; *

and the Comics Code Authority for approving this bile...

I always wondered.. was it you who put the red X over the little comics code logo on the cover?
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  234
11-18-2004 12:18 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-18-2004 12:45 AM
"OH MY GOD! that sounds just stupid and big and crazy enough for me to try!"

Rewriting the plot and dialogue into a Gonterman style might not take an extreme amount of time, as there isn't that much. The actual drawing would take a while. While there are a couple of excellent artists on board (oh, you know who you are, you girls of the female persuasion), it might be a fun communal project if even the people who can't draw (like me) joined in. I mean, an utter lack of artistic talent never dissuaded Davey or Team Holton, did it?

I'm up for it. Let's prove we can make a piece of shit!

We'll need a script first. It needs to capture the flavor of the original (shit) with a big ole blobby helpin' of Davey (ie, shit on toast made from shit). C'mon, can at least SOME of you try to play along this time? We're not creating the next All Your Base, or even the next GonterForce, just something goofy we can all giggle at.

Original comic here. Ignore the comments, just use the original.
David Gonterman, Super Green Beray!
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  233
11-18-2004 12:12 AM ET (US)
Zef, please please please do a Super Green Fox Android strip, that would be awesome.

Raptavio's comment on DVK's soul. Beautiful.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  232
11-17-2004 11:52 PM ET (US)
"My ultimate dream would be for Gonty to remake Tod Holton."

OH MY GOD! that sounds just stupid and big and crazy enough for me to try!

of course, with current time constraints (read: i work an awesome 12 hours a day) it might not even start. or it could, depending on how much would y'all apprecciate it.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  231
11-17-2004 11:49 PM ET (US)
"Bill! did you forget the only other comic to feature the word 'wierd'???"

My ultimate dream would be for Gonty to remake Tod Holton.
"This calls for--magic sexy fox androids to appear!"
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  230
11-17-2004 11:42 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-17-2004 11:50 PM
"Who is this "some"? Nobody who commented, that's for sure."

Sometimes i talk to 'some' on my DJ too, even if i just have one or two sporadical readers. for me it makes for easier writing when i use it. also, since i'm hella nitpicking, Daybreakcat found that Jim's shirt in strip 8 changes color from panel to panel. we all missed that. and that's the 'some' DVK's talking about. AND then lamely trying to cover up. TWICE. see the comments for strip 8 and the ones that follow. it's a blast.

"I've just found out that I've overdrawn at my bank. Seems that the changes in how checks and charges are sent to my account had came up and bite my own butt off. If there's any one who's capable of sending care packages to me, now would be a good time to do so. Thanks in advance.

(You can E-Mail or IM me if you need an address to send stuff to. I also accept PayPal.)"


man, do any of you think ANYONE's sending him money? or it's another delusion of his? if someone's sending HIM money, maybe i should ask for money too.

"Dude, it's not spelled "wierd."

O.o Bill! did you forget the only other comic to feature the word 'wierd'??? for shame!

"legally sells a mind-altering chemical that's poisonous in large doses."

If who you're introducing yourself to wouldn't know that you can only speak because of a genetic mutation, i'm guessing the concept of 'legally selling' would be lost on them too. ;)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  229
11-17-2004 11:06 PM ET (US)
SPI#9:
"Well, some of you noticed a change of the shade in Jim's shirt in the previous page. I brainstormed about a sunset comming through a window. Maybe I worked on that idea with Scarlet's hair."

Who is this "some"? Nobody who commented, that's for sure. And who would notice something that subtle in a DVK strip?
Apparently not Davey, as he's too busy brainstorming (brainlightdrizzling?) to notice that you can see the coffee table/couch/thing between Goodlow's translucent legs. I'm not an artist, but here's 2 words that even I know: Art gum.

SPI#10:
Oh, shit, I nearly threw up when I saw the thumbnail. At first, I thought that GOODLOW WAS GOING DOWN ON HER.
Then I thought, Man, she needs to trim her pubical hairs!
Now I don't know what to think. Does her tail grow from her mons, or did Davey draw her that way to cover up the fact that...ugh!...she has a vagina? I'm guessing the latter. But for what reason? Even he's not so bad an artist for this to be an error.

"Y-yeah, I'm this fox costume. Wierd, huh?"
Dude, it's not spelled "wierd." Of course, we also got another example of "comming," so why not.

Why would she think that it was weird for her to be herself? She's a sentient "zoot." It's what she is!
"Y-yeah, I'm a hairless ape that lives with 2 carnivores and legally sells a mind-altering chemical that's poisonous in large doses. My first name is both a verb and a noun, and my last name a noun and an adjective. I can only speak because of a genetic mutation that occured to my species 50,000 years ago. Weird, huh?" That's how I generally introduce myself to strangers.
I usually don't get a lot of follow-up questions.
Rabbit  228
11-17-2004 10:27 PM ET (US)
New Foxfire strips! It's just like Christmas, if all your presents are filled with poo.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  227
11-17-2004 08:41 PM ET (US)
Fistlekits, never mind. I just got 3 days worth all at once. 50 messages...
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  226
11-17-2004 11:39 AM ET (US)
Note to The Other Subscriber, whoever you are:
Have you suddenly stopped getting emails, too? They're not going into my spam folder. I'm just not getting them.


I just got one today. Kinda odd...
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  225
11-17-2004 09:54 AM ET (US)
Re. Toy Story 3. That was probably Eisner's LAST tentative leverage to get Pixar to stay - emotional blackmail.
They were always going to make TS 3, with or without Pixar's help or opinion.
The coolly evil part is that Disney is gonna have to make eeeeeeverything again from scratch. Pixar make their own software, and I highly doubt they'll feel obliged to share knowing that Disney is likely going to make something that sucks.
That sad part is that people will still buy it.
Ernst Bitterman  224
11-17-2004 09:53 AM ET (US)
Damn, I completely forgot this horrid thing I found on someone else's Google-ad bar. It explains an awful lot, tho':

Vote Republican For Sale. New & used Vote Republican. Check out the deals now!
Ernst Bitterman  223
11-17-2004 09:26 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-17-2004 09:26 AM
Those aren't... chickens. They're Pigeons from Hell! Stick to the barbarians, Howard.

Man, I'm going to have no more to do with that MouseCrap than appears here. Everything's more palattable with an Irwin Allen reference!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  222
11-17-2004 02:02 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the NecronomiDisneycon, Ernst!
Too bad everyone else was too chicken to post.
(mutters to self) b-GAWK!
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  221
11-17-2004 01:38 AM ET (US)
Bravo Bill, Bravo.

I read it all just after posting the links.
I then had to migrate an accounting application from a Windows NT4 server to a Windows 2003 server, remotely, from my bed via a laptop and VPN connection.

After that my brain broke.

But well done indeed!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  220
11-16-2004 11:58 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-17-2004 01:19 AM
Re MouseHurtz:
    "Mickey only humped and said one word to sum it up: 'Puberty.'"
Oh, Mickey! Lay off the Horny Goat Weed!

(added)
Last sentence of Part 3:
    "Besides, It's a Fan Story, I'm not making money with it, and none of the mice are cussing or in adult situations, so you can't sue me, so there :,-p <beeeee>"
Yes. beeeee indeed! That ends that argument!

First sentence of Part 4:
    "CAUTION: The next installment contains an adult theme."
As Michael Caine said in The Swarm, "I've never dreamt it would be the beeeees! They've always been our friends!"

added:
    "His words were cut off when Gadget caressed 'that most glorious nose' of his with her lips and sicked on it like a gumdrop for a while."
WHAAA-HAHAHA!
Oh, wait, Davey didn't mean she puked on his face! She merely sucked his nose.
The HELL?
That counts as what, a Pinocchio Job?
    Jonathan: "So Gadget, you ever been in a kiss before?"

    Gadget: "A kiss? Like when Monty gives me a peck on the cheek,
    or when I bearhug Chip for finding a lost gear?"

    Jonathan: "No. Not like that. I mean . . .
"...IN a Kiss!" and he hurled her into the chocolate vat at the Hershey factory.

And after her orgasm--orgasm--from being kissed by a rat with a mullet,
    She licked her lips. He tasted like Velveta.
Sexiest line EVER.

BTW, did anybody get even 1/10th of the "pop culture" refs he made through the story? I got 0/10ths. No, no, wait--I've heard of Hulk Hogan.
    "Did I ever, Crikey! When Hogan turned his back on a
    two decade life as a role model and joined them, I saw broken hearted kids by the city block. I even seen several of them turn to drink. Not a good day."
Yeah, Hulk Hogan was a 20-year role model. For the brain-damaged. And now the sad children are drinking the Bukoffs! Oh bleak day for humanity!
    Mickey Mouse is starting a New World
    Odor of his own!!
Man, and I was blaming the cats for the smell!

And the inevitable totally insane Davey jaw-dropper:
    It's not just Hogan that's ticking off not just myself, but every other Generation Xer in the crowd. It appears that we just are not allowed to have *anyone* to look up to. Professor X has changed into that monster, Onslaught, Sonic the Hedgehog gets his butt roboticized, and now Hogan joins the NWO? No wonder we're pipe bombing everything from Federal Buildings to Olympic Venues!
DAVEY ADMITS HE BLEW UP OKLAHOMA CITY!!'
Because of SONIC.
And Hulk Hogan.
And a few issues of the X-Men.
The HELL?!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  219
11-16-2004 11:52 PM ET (US)
Note to The Other Subscriber, whoever you are:
Have you suddenly stopped getting emails, too? They're not going into my spam folder. I'm just not getting them.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  218
11-16-2004 11:05 PM ET (US)
Disney to make Toy Story 3--without Pixar.
Oh, that'll be good.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  217
11-16-2004 10:54 PM ET (US)
SteveM: Awww, poor thing. <:o The poodle we had was attacked by a Chow dog and had to be put to sleep when the vet found out that his back had been broken.

And my Tortie tabby, who I raised from a tiny kitten, ran away a year ago. It still breaks my heart to think about her.

I think once my Siamese cat passes away, I won't have pets for a long while.

*sigh* Gawd, why do some people (including myself) fall in love with animals so easily?

Damn, I need to read some more Mouseworx. (Yeah, to cheer myself up, I'm gonna subject myself to pain. Wow, *I* must be a mental masochist.)
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  216
11-16-2004 08:35 PM ET (US)
To quote a common phrase on Fark.com - I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

What continually amuses me about Davey is that he is ALWAYS mentioning how he tones anything hentai down. I think it's because he honestly COULDN'T be explicit if he wanted to. Every time he goes into anything VAGUELY sexual, it's always with this giggly 'ooh, NAUGHTY!' tone to it.
Rabbit  215
11-16-2004 08:09 PM ET (US)
Sweet Jeebus, Mouseworx is so bad I can hardly read it. I skipped to the end to see what happens. Nothing, apparently, besides some crap about wrestlers. I think this is the most traumatic part of the whole thing:

She acted more like a cat than a mouse for the next 90 minutes;
rolling around, wrestling playfully, stroking his snout with
hers, and allowing him to pet her all over. At one time, she
felt something round and hard under his pants with her upper leg.
She couldn't figure it out. "JB, what do you have in your
pocket?"


So, which part of this atrocity scarred you the most?
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  214
11-16-2004 07:03 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-16-2004 07:05 PM
I have literally gotten only as far as the first few lines of part one and I already want to snort a beverage through my nose:
"Tell me about it, with your chest? Minnie took one look at it
and almost thought about breaking up with Mickey so she can take
*you*. You're quite a sex symbol, Jonathan."


*retch*
I love the Freudian slip where Gontie writes "*you*" instead of "*Johnny*". I think his Real Doll stands exactly 2 feet 5 inches tall.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  213
11-16-2004 07:01 PM ET (US)
My favorites are Siamese

We had a siamese seal point cat many years ago.
He had an extremely rare bone disease that meant his bones could break very easily.
He had two artifical hips and two artifical kneecaps, God he cost us a fortune!
He was the best cat ever though, he was fat in the face and body, unlike the usually emancipated siamese and he had the most gentle nature of any cat I have ever met.
Even when you used to play with him, he would always keep his claws in!

We finally had to put him down after he got attacked by two dogs, they smashed most of the bones in his body, there was nothing that anyone could do to save him :(

He ended up being send to Sydney Uni. and they analysed him and entered his details into the Australian Animal Medical Journal, so at least he ended up famous.

God I miss that cat, hope your having a pain free time now Timmy!
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  212
11-16-2004 06:51 PM ET (US)
How does Davey know what a teddy feels like?...

He probably wore the one he bought for his Furry RealDoll ;-)
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  211
11-16-2004 05:52 PM ET (US)
Hm, found something from part 3:

"WHAT DO YOU *MEAN* YER JEALOUS?!" Mickey was having a
conniption at Donald's expense. "You're about to have your
second Disney Afternoon show--YOUR SECOND!! I have to rely on a Fan Fiction writer just so I can have anything above a cameo in a dog taxi. *I'M* the one who should be jealous!!"


I'd be pissed, too, if a sucky fanfic writer had to continue my existence through his vapid stories.

And a little spoiler from part 4 when Gadget gets a teddy...

She ducked into a bathroom to change into it. It wears like a swimsuit, but it was so light and thin on her, she felt like she had on nothing at all.

How does Davey know what a teddy feels like?...
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  210
11-16-2004 05:34 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-16-2004 05:41 PM
Ever heard of a Scottish Fold cat?

My favorites are Siamese and Tortie Tabby, personally.

-----

ADDED: Yeah, I just about forgot that Gonterman made Donald Duck a homophobe who had problems getting through life because of his speech impediment...

... which is odd because nobody seemed to care about it in the cartoons.

If I remember correctly, Gontie also complains about Donald getting two (?) series and Mickey being left, um, unemployed. Dude, the mouse had all those shorts in the 1920s. He starred in a few movies. He's had decades worth of stardom!

The guy just couldn't stand to see another character getting some glory. I'm surprised he hasn't written/drawn/vomitted a protest story about Goofy getting his own series and two movies.

As much as I loathe it, I think I'll have to read all of Mouseworx to refresh my memory about Daveykins complaining about Donald, among other things.

(Oh, and watch out for the Warner Bros. crossover and virtual chat room. And the dipstick comment. You'll scream.)
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  209
11-16-2004 05:33 PM ET (US)
Mouseworx,

For those that are interested, here they are;

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

The WayBack Machine rules :)
Ernst Bitterman  208
11-16-2004 03:26 PM ET (US)
OK, now I'm seeing ads for Horny Goat Weed Capsules. I'm afraid! Quick, let's talk about kittens again and make it less creepy!
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  207
11-16-2004 03:10 PM ET (US)
Mimina: As soon as you're done reading them, well... we're here for you, honey. We're here.

I MiSTed it a long time ago and I was very disappointed with how it came out. I still have the copy somewhere on a computer back home... but I doubt it'll see the light of day again any time soon.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  206
11-16-2004 01:54 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-16-2004 01:56 PM
Fistlekits:... damn, I can only find part 4 of Mouseworx. Must read rest.... it's so MST-able :)
what's the date on those, btw? They must predate 2002, because one of them is on the Gonterman shrine....

Edit: Never mind, I found them zipped in a package I got off PoE.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  205
11-16-2004 11:56 AM ET (US)
Davey seems to be entering this with the innocence of a 10-yr-old. And are we really the least bit surprised?

Not in the slightest.

But I've seen how "risque" he can get with his writing. I've read all four installments of "Mouseworx"...

Johnny frenching Gadget... ugh...
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  204
11-16-2004 09:30 AM ET (US)
re. the Davey R forum..
MAN, Steve, that was such a letdown!:D
Sue is topless bathing on the roof (yeah, so? Classic Minnie didn't wear a top either) and Johnny enters. His first words? Not 'Hey there, hot stuff!' or 'rraow' or 'do you have nipples under your fur?' but 'Penny for your thoughts, Sue?'
Davey seems to be entering this with the innocence of a 10-yr-old. And are we really the least bit surprised?
Ernst Bitterman  203
11-16-2004 06:31 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-16-2004 06:31 AM
(man, that's hard to top...)

"Dad, are we there yet?" Jenny was struggling to see over the sill of the car's back window, but all she could make out was the moss-shrouded tops of the unnervingly tall palms which swayed in the wind.

"Almost, princess. Another couple of minutes." Warren Smith looked over at his wife, whose rictus of glee matched his own. He mopped a hand through his hair.

"Last year," Jenny said, bouncing in anticipation, "last year, when Tommy Bigalow went, last year, he couldn't talk for almost a whole month, and teacher had to feed him at lunch time!"

"I'll bet he had fun," Tara Smith said to her daughter, trying to keep her voice calm. The sign announcing the park's entry was just ahead.

"Mommy," said the little girl in a suddenly solemn tone, "You promise you're coming home? Tommy's mom never came home."

"I'll do what I can dear," she replied, and couldn't help that a single tear rolled down her face.

Moments later, they were parking beside a sand-scoured Packard well out in DisneyLeng's vast expanse of lot. Jenny squealed in glee, pointing at the beckoning tendrils of Colour Out Of Space Mountain. The misshapen figure of Mickey Marsh flapped a squamous flipper at them in greeting, and Jenny ran heedlessly ahead of her parents.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  202
11-16-2004 02:29 AM ET (US)
"INCOMING INCOMING INCOMING!" screamed Dad.
"HERE HERE HERE!" screamed Mom as she dragged Johhny and Josie through the debris.

Mortars exploded all around them, as they ran through the courtyard. Snipers began to fire, the 50cal bullets biting chunks from the pavement.

"HERE HERE HERE!" shrieked Mom, as she dove into the ruined foundation of a blasted building.

"DUCK!" said Dad, as A10 Warthogs sprayed 20mm cannon fire in ripples that tore at the ground. He yanked his children away as the planes let loose their 500lb bombs.

As the planes roared away and the last of the rubble fell from the sky, Dad said, "Whew! When they promised us a non-stop thrill ride, they weren't kidding!"

Mom grimly nodded. "And this is the last time we ever vacation at Rummyland, the Happiest Place in Iraq! Right, kids? Right? Kids? Kids?" She looked back at her children.

And began screaming. And once she began screaming, she never stopped.
Lavender Gray  201
11-16-2004 01:44 AM ET (US)
One day, this woman and I will be wed:
http://home.myuw.net/silviaa/cosplay/18IMG_5447.jpg
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  200
11-16-2004 01:44 AM ET (US)
Johnny slumped his head on his hand, holding it up from boredom. The boat continued to move slowly on.

"Mee-ARRR!" shouted a sword-waggling mannequin eating a parrot.

"AVAST ye Friskies!" came from another, its speech all staticky from a broken speaker. It had a pegleg and a hook for a paw and held a terrified rat at bay.

"ARRR! Clean the BOX! eeeAAARR! It's stinky!!" said another animatronic dummy, as it waved high the feared flag of the Jolly Mittens.

Johnny rolled his eyes. "Man, I wish I wasn't born in a reality where pirates evolved from cats!"

"Johnny!" scolded his mother. "We paid for the Pirates of the Catribbean ride, so enjoy it! And eat your deep-fried mouse!"
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  199
11-16-2004 12:00 AM ET (US)
I just had a really bad thought, DVK drawing pictures to go with the text below.

Bad Bad Brane :-(
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  198
11-15-2004 11:27 PM ET (US)
Since it's password only...how'd you get in?
I signed up and found the password, I am a masochist.

So...run at least an excerpt here. All, if you want.
OK, you asked for it. There is not much so far, just two entries which I will now paste verbatim.

Entry the first by sick puppy;
SUsan layed on the roof of Baka Breakers wearing only her skirt and stared at the clouds. She was thinking about her fragmented past and wishing she could remember more of it.

Entry the second by DVK himself;
When Johnny peeks his head up there on the roof, and saw Susan and her bare top, he slipped back for a second, and then went back out and moved closer.

"Penny for your thoughts, Sue?"


At the very least, tell us...Are there Clinton jobs?
Not yet, but I imagine it will not take long, I will keep everyone up to date on the Clinton developments.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  197
11-15-2004 11:07 PM ET (US)
Oh, SteveM, you naughty naughty boy! Someone needs a SPANKIN'!
Since it's password only...how'd you get in? ;D

I'm not joining that club (even Davey might not be so dense as to wonder why he's getting all those hits, and then we'd blow our cover). So...run at least an excerpt here. All, if you want. The interspecies sex isn't going to gross anybody out any more than the turgid writing will!
At the very least, tell us...Are there Clinton jobs?
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  196
11-15-2004 10:56 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-15-2004 11:13 PM
From the previous (Look, I said I was bored!), The Worst Alternate Universe Concept ever:

"Disneyland, the happiest place on Earth. In 99% of the realities where Earth exists, it exists."

99% of the time, Walt got approval for a giant theme park? Even in the most cliched of AltUniverses?

Little Johnny jumped up and down with anticipation. "Oh boy, I'm finally going to TOMORROWLAND!"
ObergruppenTourfuhrer Heinreich Tottenhed tousled the little tyke's hair. "Ya, but it's real name is--TomorrowTheWorldland! Ya, let us zee the vunders of der future!"
Johhny eagerly ran to look at the world to come. "But...but..."
"Is zere zumthing wrong, little liebchin?" asked the guide, quietly reaching for his Luger while dozens of security cameras focused on the boy.
"But...but the future is a world-wide smouldering charnel pit, with corpses piled a dozen deep!"
Johnny's dad nudged him. "Johnny--don't say that like it's a bad thing! This is DisneyReich, the NAZIest Place on Earth!"

Little Piotr clasped his ragged scarf around his face, fending off the stinging pellets of sleet. "Oh boyar! I'm finally at Disneygrad!"
"Welcome to Disneygrad," mumbled a voice thick with vodka over the loudspeakers. "The Teacup Ride is closed. Mr Trotsky's Wild Ride and Assassination is closed. The Gulag Archipelago Mountain Ride is open, although you may not return from it. The gift shoppe is in its tenth year of construction. The concession stands sell week-old bread. There is a 3-day wait in line for anything, except the bathrooms. That's a week-long wait, and you must supply your own toilet paper. Remember: All comrades are equal, sort of, and so no one is to have more fun than anyone else. Enjoy your stay--HACK HACK!!" The voice coughed violently, then the chugging of liquid could be heard. "Enjoy your stay at Disney Soviet."
"OH BOYAR!" shouted Piotr. "WEEK-OLD BREAD!!"

Well, that's all I got off of the top of my head. Anyone with a literary bent and ideas as half-assed as mine is welcome to contribute.

edit: Maybe on that 1%, they have "Daveykins Anime Land." Now that's scary!
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  195
11-15-2004 10:55 PM ET (US)
I'd gladly whack you with something. shooting, i dunno. i don't owns a gun. afterall, VIOLENT VIDEOGAMES MAKE GUYS LIEK ME KIL! ARR!

So Davey really has erotic fantasies about his childish 'characters' and was just waiting for someone to provide an excuse for him to express it openly? o.o
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  194
11-15-2004 10:48 PM ET (US)
DKV Forums;

A word of warning for the squeamish, there is a mature section on the DVK forums. It is supposed to contain forums of an adult nature. Luckely so far it has been very quiet.
The bad news is that DVK has been posting the odd message asking if anyone is around and trying to get someone, anyone to post something in there.
Well it has happened, to preserve your sanity I have not provided a link, some sick little perv has started a topic that involves a half naked female mouse, Susan, one of DVK's Disney ripoffs and DVK has jumped straight onto it and injected his other Disney ripoff Johnny, the perving mouse.

Arrrrgh, furry porn, it is worse than the mental Bukoff images I had earlier.

I know this is only going to get worse, the really sad part is that I know I will not be able to stop myself from reading it.

Someone please shoot me now, please, anyone!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  193
11-15-2004 10:18 PM ET (US)
I don't normally wander Davey's forums (I leave that to you, the more masochistic), but I'm bored enough to get a chuckle out of this brief thread:
http://foxfirestudios.us/forum/index.php?showtopic=62
Includes the word "Indesperationg," and a character named "Trav Ellar." Yep, "Trav Ellar." I'll bet the guy who carries his luggage is named "Sam Sonite"!
And that's from the part Davey DIDN'T write!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  192
11-15-2004 09:51 PM ET (US)
From Davey's Deviant comments, in its entirety:

"Sweet Christ, it's you!
*flees*"

Davey always features art by other people that ranges from damned competent to could-be-a-pro level. Does he think his...for want of a better word, "art," is on par with theirs?
I've noticed how he'll accept concrit on his spelling, but never his drawing. So...yeah, I guess he really does. It would explain the decade(s?) of his artistic nonimprovement.

A man's got to know his limitations, but I guess a Gonterman doesn't.
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  191
11-15-2004 08:44 PM ET (US)
La La La, you have a broken URL. I have heard that Laphroaig is very nice, I have not had a chance to try or buy any yet. The next suburb has a bottle shop that had 16 yr old Lagavulin for $99AU and I get a 5% discount on that. I must stop by there soon and see if they still have any, it was locked in a big glass cabinet behind the counter.

I seem to have consumed the entire stock of Cardhu from the local bottle shop. The manager was even nice enough the hide the last bottle behind the counter for me, what a nice guy.
He said he would be getting some more in soon, as long as I promise to buy it. It seems that no one else in this suburb appreciates a good single malt, <burns> Excellent </burns>.
Ernst Bitterman  190
11-15-2004 08:06 PM ET (US)
...la la la la Laphroaig.

Feel better?
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  189
11-15-2004 07:13 PM ET (US)
a bottle of Bukoff

Bad bad mental image, gross, think nice thought, nice thoughts.

La La La La.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  188
11-15-2004 07:03 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-15-2004 07:21 PM
"In time of war, if you go through a bad neighborhood, I don't want a little French poodle, I want a rottweiler on my hands."

...A rock-stupid rottweiler who, when a creep mugs you, lets him get away while it races across the street to attack some homeless bum with a bottle of Bukoff that he may someday break and use as a weapon. And then, it eats your wallet. And then, it poops on the Constitution.

But I guess Gene Simmons is a dog expert, what with having a tongue like one and all.
Lavender Gray  187
11-15-2004 06:32 PM ET (US)
"And he was a hundred yards from the highway. He could see it from his car. But no, rather than walk that minor distance, he died waiting for God to send him a sherpa."

Reminds me of that joke about the guy in the flood who rejects help from people in a boat, people on a raft, and people in a helicopter because he's praying for God to save him. After he drowns, he asks God, "Why didn't you save me?" God says, "I tried. I sent you a boat, a raft, and a helicopter."
Lavender Gray  186
11-15-2004 06:26 PM ET (US)
Horny Goat Weed capsules?
Lavender Gray  185
11-15-2004 06:12 PM ET (US)
Aww! The two-headed turtle eats like the lady and the tramp! So cute!
SteveMPerson was signed in when posted  184
11-15-2004 05:27 PM ET (US)
In fact, a lot of little dogs will tear off your fingers if given the chance.

Yes, but a Rottweiler will rip off an arm or leg, much more effective than just ripping of a finger!
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  183
11-15-2004 04:38 PM ET (US)
And from this:

"In time of war, if you go through a bad neighborhood, I don't want a little French poodle, I want a rottweiler on my hands."

-- KISS frontman GENE SIMMONS, on why he voted for U.S. President GEORGE W. BUSH over JOHN KERRY.


I dunno, I had a little poodle and he was vicious when someone tried to mess with his food.

In fact, a lot of little dogs will tear off your fingers if given the chance.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  182
11-15-2004 04:33 PM ET (US)
The Real Gilligan's Island!

With Rachel Hunter as Ginger?
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  181
11-15-2004 01:02 PM ET (US)
Ernst: Oh no, be as straight-faced as you like! all the better to hide among the really bad stuff ;)
Ernst Bitterman  180
11-15-2004 10:38 AM ET (US)
I think you're all overlooking something in the rush to blame an over-abundance of good Christian faith: Dad was also charged with possession! REEFER MADNESS! Just like on Dragnet when the crazy, lazy potheads left their baby in the BATHTUB instead of the BASCINET! Remember kids, a constant and powerful belief in an omnipotent but somewhat capricious deity just doesn't mix with the Devil's Own Weed! Goodness me, it's like several different kinds of morality play, all in one tawdry real-life incident.

Bill: Every awesome, unforgettable relationship I've ever had with a woman has been about friendship, not sex. Ditto. Just happened that sex entered into one of the relationships, and now we're married. Knew my wife for about five years prior to dating, and about 4.5 years of that was entirely devoid of id-generated thoughts.

Mimi: When will execs realise that CGI is not God? About the time it costs no more to build a set and ship film crews than it does to plug in a computer. YES, it's very labour-intensive, but you still end up with fewer mouths to feed. Foul Capitalists!
Errrrnst, are you going fic-trolling? ;)
If you do, post a link on GAFF, they appreciate a good piss-take ;)

Actually, I had meant to do it as straight as I can manage... but you're makin' me think, now. We'll see what kind of a mood I'm in when I start.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  179
11-15-2004 09:20 AM ET (US)
Very true. The more loopy Baptist sects believe in the whole Anointing/Healing thing.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  178
11-15-2004 01:02 AM ET (US)
I'm reminded of another news story: A man's car ran off the road and down an embankment during a snowstorm. He survived by drinking melted snow, as chronicled in a journal he kept. In it, he continually wrote about how his prayers to God would send someone to save him. He died from a combination of starvation, dehydration and exposure 3 weeks later.
And he was a hundred yards from the highway. He could see it from his car. But no, rather than walk that minor distance, he died waiting for God to send him a sherpa.

"God helps those who help themselves." Which is the same as saying God don't do crap, so you better get off your ass if you want your life to improve.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  177
11-15-2004 12:45 AM ET (US)
"the Christian Scientists"...

Not necessarily. Remember that InExOb featuring Jesus and his Talking Squirrel? That was off of the box of a video that had these Fundie Muppets that talked in rhyme. One segment had the young daughter wanting to go to the doctor because she was sick, but Grandma Wisdom (that was her name) insisted that she stay home and they'd all just pray for her. They sang a song about it, and of course, she got better! Pain, pain, go away, pneumonia come some other day! And the video wasn't CS, it was pure Southern Baptist.

The snake handlers aren't CS, either. They tend to be small Baptist sects that believe that they can juggle rattlers and GAWD will save them if they get bitten. We lose a lot of guys with mullets that way.
Which I guess just proves Darwin was right...
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  176
11-14-2004 11:28 PM ET (US)
Fistlekits - Oh yeah... the Christian Scientists are the ones who believe that pain and illness is all in the mind. There has been more than one incident of doctors literally getting court orders to take custody of a seriously ill or injured child in order to treat it, because the parents refuse to believe in medical care and keep their child from getting it.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  175
11-14-2004 10:40 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-14-2004 10:41 PM
I do not mean to start a religious discussion/flame

I don't think a flame war about religion would ever start here. a requirement for reading Bill's page is enough IQ to acknowledge that everyone has their own beliefs, which is what people who make religion flame wars lack.

So with that reassurance, GO LOOSELY CATHOLICS! ^-^
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  174
11-14-2004 09:28 PM ET (US)
I'm a born-again agnostic; I don't deny the presence of a deity, but I'm not gonna place bets, either.

If there is a deity, I'd like to have a long talk with it. I'm sorely disappointed with how the world turned out.

Ah, but anyway, I remember reading an article a long time ago about this fundie Christian couple who refused to take their little girl to the doctor because they firmly believed that their prayers (along with "God's power") could save her.

The girl died. But the couple was still allowed to keep their surviving child.

If that doesn't count as child abuse, I don't know what does.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  173
11-14-2004 01:31 AM ET (US)
Actually, I should've said that my first thought was that they were FUNDIE Christians. The voices-hearing, Rapture-believing wackos.

Although I describe "wacko" as "any religious person who wants to force his God down my throat, especially by using the government." Or anybody with a fashion accessory that says "WWJD?" when it really means "WWJerryFalwellTellMeToDo?"

Jesus never told anyone to hate. And that's what their brand of "Christian Love" is all about--justifying their hatred of anyone not exactly, precisely like them.

Their version of the Beatitudes reads, in full, "Blessed are the clones. Because we say so."
SteveM  172
11-14-2004 01:08 AM ET (US)
"They MUST be Christians"
I agree Bill, I am a Dead Again Christian after getting totally fed up with their bigotry and double standards.

I do not mean to start a religious discussion/flame, please do not take what I say on this subject personally if you are Christian. I am just explaining my life experiences with these people :)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  171
11-14-2004 12:52 AM ET (US)
I heard about this briefly on the radio today:
Nutjobs try to sacrifice their own kids to "save their souls."

I immediately thought, "They MUST be Christians, since the news story didn't give their religion! If they were Satanists or Wiccans or Muslims or Shatnerologists, that would've been the first thing they said!"
And, from their choice of venue, a Christian church, I guess that they are Christians. Not that the article says it either, of course.

And they're the ones who voted for "moral values" last week...
SteveM  170
11-14-2004 12:34 AM ET (US)
Turtles rule, but a Two Headed Tortoise rules twice as much!
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  169
11-13-2004 10:42 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-13-2004 10:43 PM
Davey thinks Michael Moore wants to read Scarlett PI? That'd be cool if Mikey was a Gonterphile! He could write "Stupid White Gontermen" next! Or "IQ 9.11"!

Woah. i didn't think of this right away, how'd Davey deal with THAT kind of criticism?? i'm thinking he'd SPLODE out of sheer anger. Because one thing would be to try and ignore Moore, i guess he can do that (and would probably help him with his ego), but criticism on a national level, that'd be interesting to see.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  168
11-13-2004 10:29 PM ET (US)
Thanks to Lavender, I'm seeing all Zim ads.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  167
11-13-2004 10:23 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-13-2004 10:24 PM
"Figure Drawing Secrets
1016 detailed illus.
Face, Hands, Feet, Arms,
 Leg & more - $14.95"

is what is on my side ads. being that you're talking about Gonterman, i think there's some advanced technology behind these ads.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  166
11-13-2004 09:41 PM ET (US)
"Anyways, let's focus on the real enemy, not some suit-wearing power figure whom none of us have any hope of meeting.

-Jake"

"Oh, I didn't mind at all having topics segway like that. I'm no real stickler, and besides, some of the Bush-Supporters and -Bashers you meet would probably end up here anyway. (Michael Moore. Nuf Said.)"

Davey thinks Michael Moore wants to read Scarlett PI? That'd be cool if Mikey was a Gonterphile! He could write "Stupid White Gontermen" next! Or "IQ 9.11"!
Marc  165
11-13-2004 09:33 PM ET (US)
I forgot to say why I debated about going - the advertising depicted it along the same lines as, say, Shrek or some other comedy. It wasn't at all - like I believe Mimi mentioned. I apologise for bringing this up after the fact - but I thought I'd throw in my two cents as well.
Marc  164
11-13-2004 09:29 PM ET (US)
I doubt Davey could draw a Segway (or a segue for that matter).

I saw the Incredibles tonight, and I debated about going or not. I'd have to say I enjoyed it - both story wise and the sort-of-retro way the "world" was set. I'll watch it again once it comes on the dish. We had different theatre problems, though - the focus went all screwy for about the last minute of the first reel, but other than that all was fine.
SteveM  163
11-13-2004 04:08 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-13-2004 04:09 PM
DVK : Oh, I didn't mind at all having topics segway like that.

And all this time I thought a Segway was a strange gyroscopic scooter and a segue a topic shift, silly me.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  162
11-13-2004 09:51 AM ET (US)
Bill: Agree on the Polar Express. That's a movie that should have been done live action. What passes for 'acting' on that movie looks more like 'zombie without the rotting'.
When will execs realise that CGI is not God?

And this is why my Davey-crit is only ever in small doses - Bill and Steve do it so much better than me ;)
LavenderGray  161
11-13-2004 03:59 AM ET (US)
"i guess i just want to see something written with stupid dialog."

Well, sure, you can write stupid dialogue, so long as it's cleverly stupid.

Zim: That's Tak's ship, isn't it?!
Dib: That's right, Zim! It fell from the sky the day after we fought her!
Zim: Isn't it?!
Dib: I just said it was. You know, you've got a real problem with listening, Zim.
Zim: ISN'T IT?!

Like that.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  160
11-13-2004 02:02 AM ET (US)
Rabbit:
"She also tried to draw like him once, but discovered that she just couldn't force herself to draw that badly."

So far only Zef can draw like Davey--but better! That pic of Jesus saying "No--that was the Beatitudes" was spot-on perfect, the exact facial expression I'd imagined, done with just a few lines.

I'll wait until the Huckabees DVD. It seems to be an instant cult movie, but most reviews revile it.

"Am I the only person who's creeped out by the people in that?"

No, you're thinking of "The Polar Express." I saw that trailer twice due to my theater switching, and that seems like a combination of sheer boredom and PAINFUL NIGHTMARE FUEL from the UNCANNY VALLEY.
Seriously--any movie where you're creeped out by Tom Hanks just has something inherently WRONG in its mix.

SteveM:
"Bill, you missed the snow capped mountain peak that has appeared on the zoots head."

...And hair that appears to be turning into anime penis tentacles...Thank Gourd Davey's spared us THAT scene!
So far.
SteveM  159
11-13-2004 01:42 AM ET (US)
Davey describing one of his characters,

He's a guy elvish dude who is Richard Kronos' friend.

Now that is literary skill.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  158
11-13-2004 01:38 AM ET (US)
Zef:
Are you 35 and obsessively drawing online strips about android fox girl love slaves? A DECADE'S worth?

Looking back on it...I kinda wish that I was still a virgin. I lost that mythical non-thing, but I really didn't gain anything out of it. Outside of several sex-filled bad relationships with nutcases. Every awesome, unforgettable relationship I've ever had with a woman has been about friendship, not sex.
Sex sux!
SteveM  157
11-13-2004 01:37 AM ET (US)
You'd think by now I'd know to scrutinize every detail in a Davey drawing.
Note panel 2.


Bill, you missed the snow capped mountain peak that has appeared on the zoots head.
Rabbit  156
11-13-2004 01:28 AM ET (US)
Go completely Davey, and molest some fandom by mixing it with pointless crossovers and self-insertion!
Y'know, a Saskcachtaweenian...Saskatoonie...Sasker...a guy from Moose Jaw who joins Harry Potter and Buffy when they teleport onto the Enterprise! With Sonic!


One of my good friends has been dying for Gonty to latch onto Buffy fandom just so she can watch me squirm (she fails to see the superior nature of Buffy). She also tried to draw like him once, but discovered that she just couldn't force herself to draw that badly.

Or really get goofy, and write fanfic based on something you know well, but no one else in the TV-centric fanfic world does. Shakespeare or Dostoevsky or Faulkner's Yoknapatawpha County or something that would make the eyes of dumb people who don't read books get like a Krispy Kreme!

You HAVE to see "I Heart Huckabees." (The folks responsible for it even went so far as to make a couple of fake sites, too.) That's pretty much what the movie is, a conglomeration of existential theories mixed with a few good doses of sarcasm, irony, and Buster Keaton-esque comedy. It's my new favorite-est movie in the whole world.

Speaking of movies, I finally saw The Incredibles. Am I the only person who's creeped out by the people in that? They looked a little bit like the puppets in "Mad Monster Party," the creepiest movie ever. I really liked it, but I kinda think it might have looked better using traditional animation. Nobody seems to agree with me though, so maybe it is just my fear of claymation.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  155
11-13-2004 01:26 AM ET (US)
Dang. You'd think by now I'd know to scrutinize every detail in a Davey drawing.
Note panel 2. He apparently has a raw oyster in his mouth, one huge tooth to chew it with, and eyes shaped like mirrored quarter notes.
And he's giving the heavy metal Satan salute while wearing a Polo shirt from 1985. With FEET LIKE HAMS!!
I'll assume that the vaguely "flow and cloud" looking thing beneath him represents "Jim falling backwards fast," and not "Jim explosively voiding his bowels."
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  154
11-13-2004 01:20 AM ET (US)
Davey--lose your virginity.

I think that it isn't as easy as that for him, being that he probably just drives girls away... but i shouldn't judge him on that behalf since i'm the same on that sense. *hides*
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  153
11-13-2004 12:54 AM ET (US)
Mimi:
"I think the table flipping over looks bloody stupid. If he was sitting on the couch..."

I took that as him sitting on the coffee table. That makes more sense, although not explaining why he'd end up on the higher-from-the-floor couch and not his hinder on the floor.

What I didn't catch the 1st time was the 2nd piercing scream. I'd think one would be more than sufficient in getting the point across.

(Of course, I screamed, too, when she said "I couldn't ask for a better--" Oh, GOURD, she's going to say "Master"! What is WITH this freak?!
Davey--lose your virginity. Believe me, sex ain't what it's all cracked up to be. And even if you do get it on with a hot chick, you'll prly just pine away that it was with a fox, and not a fox girl android...
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  152
11-13-2004 12:25 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-13-2004 12:25 AM
A Korean follow-up to Super-Size Me turns up the same result: fast food leads to immediate liver damage.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  151
11-13-2004 12:06 AM ET (US)
well he DID take BBC's advice when she corrected his spelling...
I think the table flipping over looks bloody stupid. If he was sitting on the couch with his legs under it, recoiling back in the sofa would flip his feet up and the table AWAY from him.
Errrrnst, are you going fic-trolling? ;)
If you do, post a link on GAFF, they appreciate a good piss-take ;)

Bill: better you than me. (glaring balefully out the window skyward, willing the snow to STAY AWAY!!)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  150
11-13-2004 12:02 AM ET (US)
"So, anyone got any canon they want to see mis-handled?"

Go completely Davey, and molest some fandom by mixing it with pointless crossovers and self-insertion!
Y'know, a Saskcachtaweenian...Saskatoonie...Sasker...a guy from Moose Jaw who joins Harry Potter and Buffy when they teleport onto the Enterprise! With Sonic!

Or really get goofy, and write fanfic based on something you know well, but no one else in the TV-centric fanfic world does. Shakespeare or Dostoevsky or Faulkner's Yoknapatawpha County or something that would make the eyes of dumb people who don't read books get like a Krispy Kreme!
(GLAZED! That was a metaphor!)
(Unless it was a simile)
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  149
11-12-2004 11:54 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-12-2004 11:55 PM
Re: Davey comments, woah, maybe if it's seemingly GIRLS who say corrections to him he actually pretends to pay attention?

See Ernst? the world needs mundane dialogue with cool action! that's one of the things i liked on the first Halo. some puny little grunt would kill you and he'd go all 'it was me! it was meee!!'

I played (am not currently due to lack of time & money) Pokemon TCG, and kinda got into Magic TG. i feel it's way too crazy already like to try and learn it too.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  148
11-12-2004 11:48 PM ET (US)
Sorry about the lack of updating in the New. I just really have nothing to say. Today I almost talked about the weather! How boring is that!

Davey:
http://www.deviantart.com/view/12233769/

How does one actually say ":)"?
New commenters. They like him. Or so they say...
And, like "twoard," he really thinks that it's spelt "comming."

...Because, you see, it was 60 degrees yesterday, and today we got a coupla inches of snow! And it'll be back in the 50s after the weekend!
Sorry about that...

Ernst:
I actually found that snippet interesting. That's how people really talk, and real-sounding people make for interesting reading. Of course, fiction needs what life never has, and that's a plot. If they just kept playing video games and calling each other fags day after day, yeah, that'd get old quick.

Speaking of writing, has anyone read Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell? I'm waiting to see if I get any gift certificates at Xmas, but it looks like my kinda book.
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  147
11-12-2004 11:46 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-12-2004 11:50 PM
Mimi's last mention of GAFF got me looking through the board there, and I've been taken with a strange urge... maybe I'll actually try some publicly available fanfic, and thus establish my right to make fun of Gontie on his own rules (since Mimi made much of her obvious powers in this regard on GAFF;-) ). So, anyone got any canon they want to see mis-handled? I'll take suggestions for a bit, and then see how much of a public embarrassment I can create during down-time at work.

I'm already discounting M:TG, since I don't have enough of a grip on the world-rules. The Snardlpiffer is definitely out of the Sack of Containment there.

(edit-- two rules: anything icky is going to be in-canon and off-stage. I ain't no pre-vert!)
Marc  146
11-12-2004 11:45 PM ET (US)
It's still more interesting and coherent than what old Davey-kins can pound out. I find I just get tired trying to make sense out of what he's trying to do after a while. A short while, usually.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  145
11-12-2004 11:15 PM ET (US)
I could probably do this for a REALLY LONG time, but frankly, it's boring the hell out of ME.

How strange. I loved it!! new diagnostic: i'm tired of reading smart stuff. or brain is in strike from teaching all day.
SteveM  144
11-12-2004 10:51 PM ET (US)
Maybe if you met him, he's a perfectly amiable person who can laugh at himself.

Having 5 wives and 2 daughters deserting him may rule that out, but I agree with the 'nod and smile', I would also 'run away really fast'.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  143
11-12-2004 10:44 PM ET (US)
I have to question Mr Disney Nut's 'Disney artists are all my friends' assertion. Maybe if you met him, he's a perfectly amiable person who can laugh at himself, I don't know, but I for one would be more 'nod and smile' if confronted with a rabid Disney fan like this.
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  142
11-12-2004 10:22 PM ET (US)
OK, zef. You asked for it.

"Hey, Mike." Lou looked over breifly, then returned his attention to the TV.
"Hey. Whatcha doon?" Mike plopped down on the couch beside Lou, but not too close-- teenage male space issues.
"Playin Tekken. Ah, shit."
"That chick is kickin yer ass."
"Shuddup. I'm on time battle."
"Lemme play," Mike said, trying to reach a controller without standing.
"Fkoff!" Lou barked, possibly at the TV.
"Kicked yer ass. I wanna play that chick."
"You are a chick," Lou said, punching Mike in the arm.
"Fag," Mike replied, punching back without venom.

I could probably do this for a REALLY LONG time, but frankly, it's boring the hell out of ME.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  141
11-12-2004 10:12 PM ET (US)
fictional characters exceptional and fascinating.

Ok, i sure understand that. i just wondered if it had to be done always with dialogue or so. i guess i just want to see something written with stupid dialog.
SteveM  140
11-12-2004 09:56 PM ET (US)
OK, so I thought some of the people over on the Disney Echo had issues, check this Guy out.

Wow, class A wacko in my opinion.
LavenderGray  139
11-12-2004 08:24 PM ET (US)
Zef:
The very first thing you learn in writing is that in real life, in most situations, the things people talk about are extrememly boring. Therefore, you must make fictional characters exceptional and fascinating. Even if the characters are stupid, you must somehow make them exceptional and fascinating in their stupidity. Much like Daveykins.
SteveM  138
11-12-2004 07:12 PM ET (US)
looks like it might have been a temporary thing.
Yeah, until I refresh the page and the single big ad is back, that will teach me to jump before the gun goes off.
SteveM  137
11-12-2004 06:58 PM ET (US)
Yeah, my Flower Horn ads are back, looks like it might have been a temporary thing.
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  136
11-12-2004 05:46 PM ET (US)
Ah, crap. I just had a look for our own little corner of Quicktopic on The Wayback Machine, and apparently they've been told by quicktopic to bugger off. ><!
SteveM  135
11-12-2004 02:38 AM ET (US)
are there any other free comment posting services?
Googles Blogger might be worth looking at.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  134
11-12-2004 01:40 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-12-2004 01:43 AM
"I have one single large ad"

All I've seen all month is the "one big public service announcement ad."
Not good, for an ad-supported service.
So...are there any other free comment posting services? I guess that I may have to move on soon...

(edit) CRAP! I guess that if this goes under, so goes a year's worth of Comments...CRAP.
SteveM  133
11-12-2004 01:15 AM ET (US)
Google ads,

Hey, what happened to my Flower Horn?
Now I have one single large ad asking me to 'help people with brain tumors."

Anyone else seeing this weirdness?
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  132
11-12-2004 12:17 AM ET (US)
Mimi:
DVK: "[My comics are] what I'm working on as we're talking here. Work's taking most of my time away."

Ask him what he means by "work." I'm simply curious; did McD's give him more than 2 shifts a week?

(And I don't hold McD's workers in contempt. You find work where they can give you work. The liquor biz doesn't pay enough for me to, say, afford a house, not even a small one, just this cramped condo. I'm lower middle class. In this 2nd Bush Recession, I could end up in fast food. But I hope that I don't--those people work like dogs for shit pay and all the abuse they can choke down. But when McD's rewards you with a mere 2 shifts a week...That's different. Davey getting more work than 16 hrs a wk should be a source of celebration for him.)
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  131
11-11-2004 11:56 PM ET (US)
fox hairs AND some random 2nd hand electronic components, Bill..
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  130
11-11-2004 11:53 PM ET (US)
Fistlekits:
"Davey Gravy...

Ooouuughh... uber-gross and icky..."

Yeah, I almost did an edit to exclude anything DVK-related from my nonickygross rule.
Too late, I guess!

mmmmm....Davey gravy! All lumps and chunks with grease on the top, curdling into a skin! Hey, why are there fox hairs in this?!
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  129
11-11-2004 11:34 PM ET (US)
Awesome, I can post stuff about lice and cotton balls to my heart's content! Uh, wait, that'd be gross and icky.

Davey Gravy...

Ooouuughh... uber-gross and icky... why was I cursed with a dirty mind?!

*runs to the bathroom to scrub her brain with Brillo pads and bleach*
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  128
11-11-2004 11:17 PM ET (US)
Fistlekits:
"Totally off-topic"

There's no such thing as "off-topic" here. Granted, the Davey Gravy tends to dominate, but no one should feel constrained about what to post.
Unless it's gross and icky and stinks the place up.

"I hear that the Bushitters have their counterpart, but I don't think I have the stomach to look at it right now."

What would their's say? "ha ha fuck you world!!" Since that is a neat summation of what Bush stands for.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  127
11-11-2004 11:10 PM ET (US)
Mimi:
"Bill, that's the BEST argument I've read for the existence of concrit."

Feel free to have BBC share it with Davey the Noodle. Say it's from your English teacher, Mr Young. ;)
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  126
11-11-2004 11:03 PM ET (US)
I took offense to the 'blink every hour' thing, Ernst. i expected more from a fellow gamer. plus, i got a kitchen timer set to every 15 mins, i blink when it rings. but that was a good, satisfying answer, so it's all oki now. also, the only FPS game that really makes me dizzy now (but didn't use to) is the original Doom II.

I now return to brainless Halo2ing.
Ernst Bitterman  125
11-11-2004 10:13 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-11-2004 10:38 PM
Tricky question, Zef. My perspective on the matter will now fill many inches of screen.

Part of the problem is that we writers are SO VERY INTELLIGENT that we have trouble disguising it-- we have trouble gearing things down to "stupid" characters, since most of our characters are a sub-component of our own so-delicate psyches.

Part 2 of the problem: A lot of the contractions and usages that are standard in "normal" speech look kind of goofy when you try to write them. "Hey, buddy, wuddya doon dere?" It's extra effort to even think of how to transcribe stuff like that, when "Hey, buddy, what are you doing over there?" drops easily out the ends of my fingers. SOME clever writers do this VERY easily and without looking stupid while doing it, much power to them. Really really good writers do it without you noticing, or make you THINK the way their characters are talking is normal when it's just as florid as anything else.

So, it's VALID, but it's hard. For some of us. Me, anyway. Besides, nothing NORMAL people say advances the plot in a story-- only the abnormal ones are interesting ;-)

(edit: Yeah, us writing dudes is so smart, we NEVER make any mistakes in typing-- that can be found after an edit.)
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  124
11-11-2004 09:41 PM ET (US)
An old piece of plywood is good enough for everybody else.

Awesome.

I have a question for all writers around. is it valid to write normally, for normal characters? i mean, i mostly see in what i read that people usually don't speak as normal people would. for example in this thing Lav wrote. i mean, i'm sure it's okay if the characters are portrayed as verbose people. but if you're not writing about people with a good vocabulary and horrible speaking?
Lavender Gray  123
11-11-2004 09:02 PM ET (US)
Bumper sticker sighted: I Give Evolution Two Opposable Thumbs Up!
SteveM  122
11-11-2004 06:10 PM ET (US)
I do not know if anyone here reads Craigslist, if you do then you have probably already seen this, so don't bother.
1973 Average Johnson, a great little piece from a guy trying to get a girl.
LavenderGray  121
11-11-2004 01:56 PM ET (US)
Right now I'm working on a play. It's a short one-act, so there's a chance I might actually finish it. Here be excerpt:

MARIE
Then what’s the deal? Listen to you. Listen to what you’re saying. You’re telling me that you’re so afraid of ruining things in the future that you want to ruin them now and get it over with.

PHOEBE
You could soften the edge a little when pointing out my stupidity.

MARIE
If I danced around the issue, then we’d never get anything done. Let’s just have a nice, straightforward, constructive conversation about what’s going on, and then you can go back to waving your nail-studded baseball bat at people you don’t like.

PHOEBE
I don’t wave a nail-studded baseball bat at people I don’t like.

MARIE
You know what I mean.

PHOEBE
I would only use the nail-studded baseball bat on people I respect. An old piece of plywood is good enough for everybody else.
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  120
11-11-2004 11:36 AM ET (US)
Totally off-topic, but check this out:

http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

I'm thinking about submitting my own pic to the site.

I hear that the Bushitters have their counterpart, but I don't think I have the stomach to look at it right now.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  119
11-11-2004 10:15 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-11-2004 10:44 AM
Two Minutes' Silence at 11am, Ernst. I'm on it.

Bill:Your writing is the sword, and their criticisms and rejections are the hammer and the anvil.

Bill, that's the BEST argument I've read for the existence of concrit. Beautiful *claps*

well... I COULD have BBC take a look and proofread.. but don;t you all prefer your Daveykins uncorrected, unfiltered and tar-rific?
Edit: I have posted the Davey badfic over to GAFF,. Even though their modus operandi is mocking badfic, they also answer pretty well to calls for help in proofreading. But then, THEY all know Gonty's rep, too, so noone may bite. we might get some good snark, tho' ;)
Ernst Bitterman  118
11-11-2004 10:10 AM ET (US)
I hope everyone is having an appropriately reflective Armistice/Rememberance/Veterans' Day.

Thanks, lads.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  117
11-11-2004 12:09 AM ET (US)
"Oh, the pile of taters is explained if you check out the link he provides to his 'inspiration'"

GAH! What's she a-settin' on, a dead squid?!
(Just kidding! It's obviously a very moldy boulder. Must've been in the back of her fridge)

I forgot to note the warning about not "rewriting generic fantasy" into the novel, but Davey basically demands that the Kitsune, a newly-discovered race of fox-people, be included. Any bets about these critters being... AndroidsWhoWantHotSexWithSt.LouisMcDonaldsWorkers?

"I fought down the urge to offer myself to him as proofreader/editor..."
As in all of life, you have to be able to handle rejection. But if you're a budding author, you have to thrive on it, using it to hone your skills. Your writing is the sword, and their criticisms and rejections are the hammer and the anvil.
Davey can't get over what happened to him 20 years ago in high school, but he wants be a professional writer?
"Hey, who left this noodle on the anvil?"
SteveM  116
11-10-2004 11:56 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-11-2004 12:00 AM
"just to see what he made of any suggested amendments, proposed deletions"
I wouldn't worry to much Ernst, he never seems to make any of the changes that people suggest anyway.
Several people have given him specific things that need fixing and I don't think I have seen him implement even one of the changes.

Go ahead, make his day!

Edit : "his boot-heel-shaped mouth"

Thats beautiful *wipes tear from eye*
I laughed so much at the mental picture that gave me of DVK putting his foot on a peice of paper, tracing around the heel, and then doing the rest of the face.
Ernst Bitterman  115
11-10-2004 11:47 PM ET (US)
Please do not simply rewrite these ideas. Need we explain copyright infringement?

I picture the nebulous shape of DKG, head cocked to one side and a puzzled expression on his face. "Never heard of it," burbles from his boot-heel-shaped mouth.

(I think THAT should put paid to any talk of me writing goodly!)

Oh, the pile of taters is explained if you check out the link he provides to his "inspiration" which is actually a passable piece of art. Well, relative to his goonish scribble. I fought down the urge to offer myself to him as proofreader/editor, just to see what he made of any suggested amendments, proposed deletions, or demands to clarify what the hell the object of any given pronoun is. I'm... just not that strong.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  114
11-10-2004 11:26 PM ET (US)
The M:TG Novel submission rules. Failure to follow them will result in Game Over, Dude.

BBC, maybe you could point out to Davey that he's already lost.
Required: "A one-page, single-spaced story synopsis that tells us the entire story: beginning, middle, and end. Don't write cover or ad copy -- tell us the story and be specific about locations, character types, monsters, and so on."
Davey didn't. His "synopsis" looks like he's planning on doing what he always does, making it up as he goes along.

"Pay close attention to spelling, grammar, punctuation, and presentation."
No comment needed.

Unacceptable: "Proposals with images, pictures or drawings on the pages."
Now we'll never find out why she's settin' on a big ole pile o' taters.

On the other hand, they suggest as an inspiration for a post-apocalyptic world the shit-ass movie "Reign of Fire." So maybe he's got a chance.

Hey, LaGrey, Ernst--you write better than him! (or me) Maybe you 2 should buy a few M:TG novels and send in a submission!
(Just remember: characters don't "look like what the cat's dragged in," they "look like what the Lhurogoyf's dragged in"! It's totally different!}
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  113
11-10-2004 11:20 PM ET (US)
I also spiritually adopted a cat, Bill. And so has approximately a thousand other students who live on this part of campus.

She's a cutie; black and white, pale green eyes. With half a tail. Some students named her Jonesy, after the Jones residence hall beside the woods where she makes her home.

She used to stay near the hall until she moved closer to the river, which is about a quarter mile away from us. I'm thinking about donning my exercising clothes and jogging down there one of these days to see how she's doing.

I don't want to get attached to her. Strays live considerably shorter lives and I'd be heartbroken to see... damn, I gotta stop.

If I could take her home, I definitely would.
Ernst Bitterman  112
11-10-2004 10:51 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-10-2004 11:09 PM
Uh-oh... It's waka time:

Once-green foliage
past final vibrant florish
now feeds hungry soil
and sun hugs white horizon
attended by two pale hounds.
LavenderGray  111
11-10-2004 10:35 PM ET (US)
It's strange that I should love fall so deeply, yet hate winter so intensely. Fall is the brief eternity when the ball hangs motionless in the air before falling back toward earth again. It is the time when everything comes to fruition, everything is red and gold, awash with frangrant smells and refreshing breeze. It is the last for which the first was made. And then comes winter and ruins my happy mood. I thirst for spring.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  110
11-10-2004 09:04 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-10-2004 09:38 PM
"the umpteenth eleventh wave of ocean..."
Yeah, that's some fiiine writin'!
Gourd, that was awful. The endless parade of Glorks and Bongullahs or whatever made-up Magic terms makes for riveting reading.
Note the lizard. It's that retarded l33t speaking dragon again.

Forgot to mention: Why is she sitting on a giant lump of mashed potatoes?

Saw this quote a few minutes ago, and it made me think of Davey:
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity." -Frank William Leahy
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  109
11-10-2004 06:36 PM ET (US)
His infamous typos and grammar actually aren't as hideous as usual on that fic - it's still bloody awful writing, though - mixed tenses etc....
Is the Magic world MEANT to be that complicated??

I am proud to say I've never knowingly ingested a Peep. I found a site once that did a Twinkies Project on them.. and I am determined to keep it that way.
Ernst Bitterman  108
11-10-2004 05:47 PM ET (US)
Holy moley. I can't force myself to do other than skim that nonsense-- although he seemed to be fairly coherent for the first few lines.

Purple cat Peeps sound delightful, but I think it's important to remind everyone: Peeps are for LOOKING ONLY! "Marshmallow" in this case is a euphemism for "low toxicity foamed silicon rubber", and should under no circumstances be ingested.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  107
11-10-2004 09:52 AM ET (US)
Davey badfic alert! Will prolly make absolutely no sense to anyone who doesn't play Magic. I love how the pic of Jasmine in no way matches her description in the 'passage'.

Cat-shaped Peeps? Never seen those before - chicks and bunnies, yes....
SteveM  106
11-10-2004 01:05 AM ET (US)
"I know I'm the only one following Snowflake's output besides Davey"
I visited a view times, just after Scarlett PI began, but after browsing some of the other shit (sorry, I could find no better word to describe the excrement on that site) I gave up.
The quality (in a truly negative sense) of the assorted works is beyond description.
I hate to say it, but DVK is about the best there is on that site.

Arrrgh, get the bleach, I need to clean my eyes and brain.

PS, Bill, love the Byron blog, laughed my ass off ;)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  105
11-10-2004 12:19 AM ET (US)
I know I'm the only one following Snowflake's output besides Davey (and why should you? I made some "output" like their's today, and flushed it right down), but they seem to be stopping "Squishy Tales." This is when they take their beanbag octopus to Hooter's, the only place where pretty girls will talk to them (because they're forced to), and photograph them with Squishy (if they want a tip).

It's so patheticly adolescent that it's no wonder that they let Davey join their crew of utter losers. And I suppose that they're ending the feature because they got banned from Hooter's for stalking.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  104
11-10-2004 12:05 AM ET (US)
Snowflake Studios has a new look! And a header wiiith...exactly 2 strips I recognize. And Scarlett PI isn't one.

The new look really shows off their sense of graphics and layout. Scroll down to the schedule to see what happens when you have a pointless black moldy thing that runs down onto black script.
And note that in December they promise--twice the pain!!
Ernst Bitterman  103
11-09-2004 11:08 PM ET (US)
You might want to take some Gravol anti-nausea pills before starting, Zef. All that first-person action can make a fella woozy. Enjoy your plasma cannon, and do remember to blink at least once an hour.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  102
11-09-2004 11:02 PM ET (US)
i will, tomorrow i asked for permission to arrive late to work. (i haven't gone play yet 'cause i'm replying to mails)
SteveM  101
11-09-2004 10:57 PM ET (US)
Have fun Zef, just try and remember to get some sleep.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  100
11-09-2004 10:37 PM ET (US)
I have Halo 2 in my unbelieving hands. expect no more post from me in..uh.. who knows ^-^;;



please forgive with my fanboy moment, this is a guy who lusted for his own Xbox since it first appeared around the 2000, and i can't believe i was able to afford it, let alone the fact i'm mere moments away from playing Halo 2!!
Ernst Bitterman  99
11-09-2004 08:09 PM ET (US)
Ah, I used to be able to drink around 15 425Ml glasses of beer before the slur began, now I am just a cheep drunk :)

Good heavens man, if you're drinking Cardhu, you're anything but cheap! I suspect the beer of elder days is the cheap item... ;-)
SteveM  98
11-09-2004 07:31 PM ET (US)
You have to love the way that DayBreak waves the white flag. He makes himself out to be so sincere and then the next post he spouts his rhetoric for a page and a half.
He is like a kid poking a kitten with a sharp stick, the only problem is that the kitten is Raptavio and I think that he/she will really let fly next post.
Poor Davey seems to be stumped as to what to do, it looks like he can only ingest one line of each post before his eyes glaze over.

But it is fun to watch.
SteveM  97
11-09-2004 07:26 PM ET (US)
Liquid lunches are one of my favourite pass times.
It is just that with the pain killers, I am only likely to be lucid for about 15 minutes, after that i tend to slur for a few minutes and then go night night.

Ah, I used to be able to drink around 15 425Ml glasses of beer before the slur began, now I am just a cheep drunk :)
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  96
11-09-2004 07:11 PM ET (US)
Aw, Steve, haven't you ever had a pub lunch? Make it 90 minutes ;)
SteveM  95
11-09-2004 07:08 PM ET (US)
I'm getting booze, who's joining me??

Well I got a lovely bottle if Cardhu single malt last night, but it is only 11AM over this side of the globe, a bit early for me to have a tipple.
I will join you though, in about 6 hours time.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  94
11-09-2004 06:56 PM ET (US)
ASHCROFT OUTTA THA HOUSE!!

I'm getting booze, who's joining me?? \^_^/
Ernst Bitterman  93
11-09-2004 11:26 AM ET (US)
It's my belief that Davey secretly wants to be Bush... or lusts after him.
It's my belief that Bush secretly wants to be Bill Pullman's character in "Independence Day", and it vexes him that Al Qaeda lacks a fleet of city-sized flying saucers.

Zef: Praise the bits that are right, suggest slight amendments where it's not too wrong and laugh your ass off over the complete nonsense in the privacy of the staff room. These are the dark secret techniques of the ESL teacher.

Mimi: re history lesson-- That's sweet (used in the older, non-skateboarder manner). Good to see that corporate villains haven't smacked all the real sentiment out of the business.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  92
11-09-2004 10:06 AM ET (US)
Bill: Today's Animation History Lesson

Frank and Ollie - Frank Thomas(recently deceased) and Ollie Johnson - the last two of Disney's Nine Old Men(if not, Ollie's the only one left) - the animators who made Disney great - their work spans from Snow White to the Fox and the Hound. Brad Bird put cameos of them in Iron Giant as well - they were the two train drivers who hit the Giant. So yeah, that was definitely one for the animation buffs.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  91
11-09-2004 12:27 AM ET (US)
"Something along the lines of setting the home page of every person who views the forum to DVK world."

then those people's brains would go all 'splut!' so evil. i like it.

your los fingers go all el bleedo! El gato Estes rocket muy loco a la cabeza avec la poutine and Nachos!


I wonder if it's good or bad than this makes more sense than most of the sentences my students come up with. I'm not cut to be a teacher, i guess.
SteveM  90
11-09-2004 12:14 AM ET (US)
Zef "i didn't think the formatting would be so easy to mess up tho."

The messages seem to wrap on white spaces, like tabs and spaces. All those O's confused the crappy code because it could not work out where to wrap.
Good work, we may be able to come up with an internet explorer buffer overflow exploit using this technique. Something along the lines of setting the home page of every person who views the forum to DVK world.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  89
11-09-2004 12:13 AM ET (US)
Mimi:
"I loved Frank and Ollie's cameo - "That's old school!""

I caught that for as long as it was on the screen. "That's some in-joke!" I thought, then forgot about it.
EXPLAIN!
(But take your time...I go to bed with cats now)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  88
11-09-2004 12:08 AM ET (US)
"i go quiet for days and days again now."

Oh no you DON'T! I command thee to post and post and post until, as they say in Mexcianian, your los fingers go all el bleedo! El gato Estes rocket muy loco a la cabeza avec la poutine and Nachos!
And don't tell me otherwise!
SteveM  87
11-09-2004 12:00 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-09-2004 12:02 AM
Quoting Raptavio - "I don't know about sizzling egos, but I sure hear yours overinflating, sirrah. "

I had to lookup sirrah as I had never heard the term before.

Whoa, that is one viscious single word insult.

Go Raptavio.

Edit : I screwed up and hit submit before I had finished typing :(
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  86
11-08-2004 11:57 PM ET (US)
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  85
11-08-2004 11:47 PM ET (US)
I'm with Fistlekits. (and Bill - ZEF! RETURN KEY!!)
It appears that picking at the wounds of bullying TWENTY YEARS PAST is about all Davey appears to have to define himself. We suspect he's not a very likeable person in RL. Probably not the docile innocent he portrays himself as.. likely more an obnoxious socially-dyslexic asshat who doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut. But being a victim allows him to construct a fantasy world where he becomes a hero and guiding light to other victims - by pretty much saying we should blow away anyone who doesn't like U-S-A!!!
Any further comments BBC posts will be just on the comics... I don't really feel that a 16-yr-old can take on a frothing Davey. Leave that to Raptivo....

re. Incredibles. Yes, you saw the Hai Karate too!
I loved Frank and Ollie's cameo - "That's old school!"
The US trailers really kinda mis-represented it as a comedy. The Japanese trailers focused a LOT more on the family story and the emotional themes which are a bit more what the movie is about than laffs.
The setting is Pixar Time ;). They have a famous attachment to 50's and 60's styles...
I still wuvved it. I have the artbook and CD on order :)
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  84
11-08-2004 11:42 PM ET (US)
it's not as fun now. i didn't think the formatting would be so easy to mess up tho. i go quiet for days and days again now.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  83
11-08-2004 11:27 PM ET (US)
Zef:

PLEEEASE Ediiiit yooour pooost!
Soooo theeere's not sooo many OOOOOOOOOOs in iiit!
You're screwing with the formaaaaatting!
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  82
11-08-2004 11:09 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-08-2004 11:40 PM
WHO BE CARIN' ABOUT DAVEY!!?? HALO 2 IS OUT IN A FEW HOURS!!! WOOOO*passes out*
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  81
11-08-2004 08:18 PM ET (US)
It's my belief that Davey secretly wants to be Bush... or lusts after him.

I always knew that he had a bit of a psycho thing going for him (oh, WHO didn't?). I mean, occasionally we all have the desire to hurt someone for whatever reason, but that feeling passes (if you possess a lucid mind and have some freaking common sense).

If he were more clearheaded, he'd realize that constantly dredging up memories of being harrassed at school isn't healthy. Believe me, I should know. It took me years to get over my school teasing. Sure, bad memories pop up every now and then, but they don't stay long. Because I think about or do something else that makes me happy.

Working through your feelings through your creations can be cathartic, but evidence proves that Davey just hasn't accomplished that. He must be keeping a lot of those memories bottled up--angst fuel.

Methinks that he's not only crying out for attention with his permanent victim complex; he's a full-fledged psychomasochist (ah, geez, now I'm making up words). I think he enjoys experiencing mental anguish.

-----
o/~ Davey's got a gun... o/~ Well, at least he lives far, far away from any of us. I fear for St. Louis, though.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  80
11-08-2004 06:39 PM ET (US)
Rabbit, what you said about Bush is what I wanted to scream in Davey's ears yesterday. He honestly thinks that the rich kid with the CIA-boss dad got bulllied by smug, self-important, entitled assholes, instead of being one of them?

And what is with this nonstop "Columbine Guns Columbine Guns" stuff? And ain't it a mite creepy when he says (emphasis added):
    It's the one who look at me funny and dot me with a lazer sight, that's when I want to get my gun...
Umm...HIS gun? I hope that that's just a lame metaphor, and not a Glock. If I ever see the headline, "Workplace Massacre at St Louis MacDonald's," I know who my first suspect will be...
Especially if the sublede is "Victims Doubted Existence of Slayer's Android Fox Girlfriend."
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  79
11-08-2004 06:08 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-08-2004 06:14 PM
Lily... it's interesting how you mentioned having a zero tolerance of bullies... which kind of sounds like the way Gonty thinks about them. Not that I'm saying for a SECOND that you share his insane distortion of adolescent trauma into quasi-terrorism. At least you clearly don't let your adolescent experiences define your life.
But I think it's safe to say that even those of us who WEREN'T bullied at school don't give them much shrift either. But it seriously looks to me like Gonty is sticking his fingers in his ears and going 'LALALALALALA!!' whenever anyone suggests that bullying happens, he is not the only one it has ever happened to, and people get over it. Even if he GOT his ideal scenario of some utopian bully-free school system, it would still happen. Some kids are just shits. I don't think any amount of teacher supervision or counselling will ever change that. It's a pecking order thing more than anything... either because a bully is abused at home and echoes the behaviour of parents or is a spoilt little farktard and reinforces his superiority complex by belittling others.

I was never bullied at school, just teased sometimes because I have a limp. I was in and out of hospital a lot and I kind of knew that the kids who teased me were just fooling, because 5 minutes lates they'd be begging me to let them have a go on my crutches. Crutches=Cool for grade-schoolers ;)

And yes, that evil orange cheese is just weird. What's even more weird is that the butter is white. ;)
Some English hard cheeses ARE orange, though... it's part of the ripening process and sometimes from the red wax coating it's preserved in. No artificial colouring there.
LavenderGray  78
11-08-2004 05:58 PM ET (US)
Oh yeah, the bully thing. I was bullied a lot, too. But I was pretty quick with my fists, so I bullied right back. The last fight I got in was in sixth grade, when two girls cornered me in a bathroom. I smashed one girl's nose in with a book and punched the other one in the gut hard enough to send her to her knees. But I also ended up with a black eye and some ripped-out hair, so even I know that counter-violence is the worst possible answer to initial violence, to be used only when there are no other options available.
Ernst Bitterman  77
11-08-2004 05:51 PM ET (US)
On bullying, a very brief "me too": Plenty of it, mainly emotional (big like hulk since age 14), and zero attempts at armed retribution. And, frankly, not a lot of thought given to it since 1984, either. DG's a big weasel, all right, but then it must be uncomfortable to perch on fence like that.

On cheese: my fellow Yanks seem to have left out is the North American predilection for vividly-orange cheese On a trip back from Europe, there was a hope to Blighty on a British Midlands jet which served a cheese so orange it shocked THIS North American... and then made him sick as a dog for 12 hours. It wasn't cheddar, but it was one mentioned in the Monty Python sketch.

I've lived almost 38 years now without eating spray cheese, and I've managed to avoid all but 3 slices of American processed cheese food (it makes me nervous that they have to insert food in that). Gouda, Mozza, and undyed old Cheddar for me, thanx.

(...and not a bit of ritalin in me; just a jabberjaw.)
Rabbit  76
11-08-2004 05:50 PM ET (US)
It's kind of ironic that Daveykins is so enamoured with Bush, despite Bush having a reputation as a bully and a fratboy. But then again, reality has never been Davey's strong point.

It's also really sad that he thinks he can justify the war in Iraq with the Columbine massacre. Two wrongs do not a right make. What people like him don't figure out is that you can't beat these people by playing their game-you can't become a bully to fight them.
LavenderGray  75
11-08-2004 05:43 PM ET (US)
I'd help you flame him, but enough of my brain is consumed by murderous rage already, and I don't think I have the stamina for any more.
Lilly von Dummkopfter  74
11-08-2004 04:31 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-08-2004 04:36 PM
Comme toujours, I'm trying to stay out of the fray Gonter-wise, but would just like to applaud la Mimina for so correctly diagnosing Davey's

permanent victim complex

since that was the term that kept occurring to me as I read everyone's rants. I'm sure that to no-one's surprise, I too was another much-maligned and bullied geek--albeit one who not only got over it, but evolved into a semi-kickass adult with zero tolerance of bullies in any context. ::infer your own political message here!::

Re: canned cheese--oh, that's just evil. I rarely if ever touch the stuff, as I tend to dislike wimpy American cheese of the Velveeta ilk only slightly less than bullies. (Del Taco vs. Taco Bell: no contest, if you prefer real cheese vs. fake.) Mind you, though, one element my fellow Yanks seem to have left out is the North American predilection for vividly-orange cheese--what is that about?

I cite this merely because the first time I went grocery shopping in the U.K., I initially thought my options were solely limited to mozzarella until I realized that I merely hail from an odd land where they color cheese. My then-boyfriend later sent me some regulation-orange Tillamook and all my Brit friends enjoyed this exotic snack--*much* more so than their dutiful consumption of the peanut butter and jam sandwiches they made in my honor. Recalling their varying expressions of pained disgust still makes me laugh, though I probably looked the same the first time I tried vegemite in Sydney. Not the first or last time the 'When in Rome' principle led someone gastronomically astray, though now that I've received such specific instructions on its consumption, I'll have to try it again. :)

Oh, and to answer the question--IMO, Daveykins being so enamoured of his victimhood is merely pathetic. If he ever held public office--vote Geek in 2008?--or had any actual effect on others in RL--like that'd ever happen?--it would quickly become tragic.

[Okay, edited because English majors never can be happy with a final draft and always want another rewrite, plus my current trial run on Ritalin has made me way too loquacious, sorry!]
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  73
11-08-2004 11:37 AM ET (US)
Take a close look at the word 'onfense'. It is not even a real F'in word...

Aww, isn't that sweet? He's making up words, just like his idol!
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  72
11-08-2004 09:33 AM ET (US)
Jeez. Whine, whine and whine s'more, Davey. Is it tragic or pathetic that he feels the only way he can attract readers and/or "fans" is by appealing to those who have a permanent victim complex like himself? Considering a mature, reasonably intelligent person would rise above it and not allow bullying to weigh down their lives, that leaves only fellow self-absorbed wankers to flock to hear his Word.
SteveM  71
11-08-2004 03:03 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-08-2004 03:04 AM
I will get more into this tomorrow, as I am sure a few other people will. Take a close look at the word 'onfense'. It is not even a real F'in word and yet the 'on' is in italics.

My Deity, this guy wants to write novels, what a wanker!

Edit : typos.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  70
11-07-2004 10:48 PM ET (US)
This thread is too choice. I might wait a few days to see where it goes.... if he keeps up, I have a little place that it might just suit for ripe mockery..... >:)
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  69
11-07-2004 10:24 PM ET (US)
Waugh!

Uh, yeah, sleep on it...

*walks away, shaking droplets out of her sweater sleeves* Ugh... jeans... chafing...
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  68
11-07-2004 10:16 PM ET (US)
*sigh* I'll go get the hose....(sprays Bill and Fistlekits)

Chill, Bill. Sleep on it before you go in there. First Raptivo shows up with his veiled snarking (so veiled until this political thread that it went straight over Davey's head), then me...c'mon, it'll look REALLY fishy if someone suddenly shows up, especially to flame.
Sleep on it, okay? Rant here, we love hearing it :)

It's his forum, he clearly feels safe expressing himself there in a (for now) troll-free environment. And it has provided much entertainment thus far.

Besides, if you show up there and start flaming, as a kinda Davey-fan, BBC will have to call you a grAet big MEANI11EEE!!!111
SteveM  67
11-07-2004 09:04 PM ET (US)
OK, who left the bloody door open?
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  66
11-07-2004 08:54 PM ET (US)
O U BETS IM FUNNEYI AM THE COMDEY JEANIUS!!!! I M SO FUNNEY THAT ADAM SANDLR IS JELLOUS OF ME HE SAYS "O I WISHES I WAS MONKYEMANIAC WHOO IS SO FUNNEY AND ASLO A BUSH SUP..ORTT...ER WTF THAT S HARD TO SPEL! IM SO FUNNEYS IT MAKS PAULY SHOR SAY "OH BOY I WISH I WAS MONKEYMANAC WHO IS FUNNYER THAN ADAM SANDLRE!!!"
POOR PAULY! HES SO LAIM THAT CARROTOPT SAYS "I WISH I WAS PAULY, WHO WISHS HE WAS ADAM, WHO WISHS HE WAS MONKYEMANIAC ECT ECT WELL I GUESS YOU GET THE JOKE BI NOW!!!
LOL!!!!!!!!

CARROTTOP IS GAAAY!!!!! ASLO THAT OTHRE GUY WHO ISNT FUNNEY I 4GETS HIS NAME. U NO, THAT GUY
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  65
11-07-2004 08:26 PM ET (US)
OMG ROFLMAO WTF BBQ SOS!!!!11~~!!11ONEONEONE

YOuR SO TEh HELARIUS & FUNNEY!!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  64
11-07-2004 08:07 PM ET (US)
>monkeymaniac<

SNIVELARD?!!? WTF??1 IS THAT WEN YOU GETS A COLD IN YOR NOSE AND THE SNOT IS LIK ALL GROSS/ THATS NOT A NINSULT!!!!!!!!!
UNLESS HE EATS IT LOL!!!!!! WITH VEGMITES!!!

HE IS GAY FAG LOOSER SO HARD IT NOT FUNNY!!!

HEY DAVY WHAT IS WITH U N TEH FOX GIRLS NEWAY???? DO U SCROO UR MOMMY'S CHIWAWA TOO LOL!!!!!!!!!
U BETTR STAY AWAY FROM MY MOKNEY U FREEK!!!!
GAY FAG LOOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! x A BILION!!!!!!!!!!!!! U PRLY HATES BRITNEY 2!!! BECUZ--WAIT 4 IT--YOUR GAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  63
11-07-2004 07:55 PM ET (US)
Damn, I got teased in school, but I realize that my trials in school are nothing compared to the massacre of 3,000+ people or the brutal slayings that have been going on since Bush started this war. (Daveykins also seems to forget those who were in the Pentagon and that plane that was crashed into the field outside of D.C.)

I highly doubt that he feels any real sorrow for those that died. It's just something to connect to, to make his life seem all the more significant. Pithy, false emotions... It's just like what George Carlin says about people who like to say where they were when Kennedy got assassinated or when some other major catastrophe occurred.

I'm with ya, although I'll refrain from using "faggot"--I prefer the term "microcephalic snivelard" (small-headed whiny person).

Bah, who'm I kidding? If he can't understand it, he won't be insulted by it. Let's get the shithead.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  62
11-07-2004 07:35 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-07-2004 07:59 PM
Davey:
"it stems from my inner connection between the War on Terror and what I experienced in Junior and Senior High School (For the uninitiated, I was excessively bullied and would be expelled because of this if I were a student today before I turn into the next Harris or Klebold). I can't think of any reason why I should ask the terrrorists why they hate me as a person and want to slice my throat in front of a web camera. Asking the Bully why they hate me and want to beat the crap out of me and take my money, and then tell the principle that I was fighting with them so they can watch me get paddled, didn't work in the public school system, and it cartainly doesn't work when facing the terrorists. (What the fuck did I do to deserve the treatment I got, and what the fuck did those in the World Trade Center do to deserve what they got, I'll constantly ask to my death)"

Okay. I've been the peacemaker guy, urging no one to flame Davey. But what a whiny little self-centred prick. First, 9/11 gets compared to CHRISTMAS, now it has exactly the same moral weight as Davey's bad school experiences.
For the uninitiated (which would be EVERYONE, as I don't constantly mention it like he does), I had the crap regularly beaten out of me from grades 10 to 15. And the school officials didn't care, my parents didn't care, no one cared. I was repeatedly told that the beatings were my fault, by teachers AND my parents.

Hey, guess what! I got over it!

This little sack of shit thinks we should massacre the world in "Bush's personal Columbine" because he's a 35-year-old momma's boy who has never stood on his own 2 feet anywhere besides a message board. Because, oh boo hoo, he had a bad time in school, so every Arab in the world must die.
Dude is so FUCKED in the HEAD.
So let's start a sockpuppet to REALLY let him know what we think. Flame the little faggot! Yes, I used the "F" word--I want to hit this pathetic, hate-filled creep right where he lives. Seriously, you think he's going to hide behind Scarlett PI when he's called a fag? He'll snarl right back in turn. He'll show that he likes the queers--so long as they aren't "uppity niggers" who won't get off the sidewalk when he struts by.
And he also can't draw worth shit.

(puts on ninja suit)
Who else is in?

(edit: link. And, yes, here's the money quote: "Unfortunately for all of us, Bush's answer to turning Planet Earth into his own personal Columbine seems to be the only answer.")
SteveM  61
11-07-2004 07:22 PM ET (US)
You use BUTTER, Steve?! Yecccch

Yup, but not marg, that is pure evil yellow grease. There is another of my marketing skillz.

My fav is a vegemite, butter and vita-wheat sandwich, when you press the top and bottom halfs together all these dark brown and yellow worms emerge from the holes in the crackers.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  60
11-07-2004 07:15 PM ET (US)
If you are NOT Australian, under NO circumstances attempt to eat Vegemite out of the jar like Nutella or PB. It will scar you in many many ways. Leave that to the hard-core Aussies.

You use BUTTER, Steve?! Yecccch. That's for kiddies lunches! ^_- For me, butter taints the pure salty goodness. One of my fave snacks was neat vegemite on Saos. I have the emergency store of Vegemite in the cupboard (care package from parents ;)), but Saos are a little too fragile to make the trip.

And yeah, I wondered if Raptivo wasn't someone here, too. At least there's SOMEONE there who can be cutting when I can't. The best I can do as BBC is keep my line of argument as simple as possible.
I have a can of Ezy-cheez in the pantry too ;)... tho' I rarely use it because I'm one of those cheese snobs who insists on grating my own parmesan from the block. I have it mostly for kitsch value. One time when I visited the states, one of my Mousehouse colleagues was so intrigued that he asked me to bring back 3 cans of the stuff. My bag got searched a lot on that trip. It didn't help that I was also packing 2 pounds of Supersculpy that under x-ray probably looked like plastic explosive! ^_^;;
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  59
11-07-2004 06:47 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-07-2004 06:48 PM
"Scott Eiby at Central Queensland University sent me a jar of Vegemite, so Mike, Jane and I decided to see how far it would spread onto bread."
Scott warned me to spread it thinly because it is very salty."

"hmmm lips and assholes"
Stevie...Don't get a job in advertising. You wouldn't go far.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  58
11-07-2004 06:36 PM ET (US)
After a bit of the Google:
You'd think that a name like "Raptavio" would be distinct enough that there'd be only one. I didn't follow every link, but there is/was someone by that name who was a Furry back in 2000:
http://www.furnation.com/humor/raptresponse.htm
Not much from the furry persona after that.

And there's this current LJer:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/raptavio/120043.html#cutid1
Anti-Bush, and apparently very anti-Scientology, too.

Unsure if they're the same person. A Furry might have come across Davey's site. The LJer, outside of the post linked to above, doesn't seem to go on like "our" Raptivio, although he certainly seems to have similiar viewpoints.

Either way, I don't think that it's anyone aware of our little clambake.
Rabbit  57
11-07-2004 06:08 PM ET (US)
3: You spray it on crackers, as opposed to cutting slices of cheddar or smearing brie. You can make little flowerettes with it, if artistically inclined.

When I was a young child, I had some kind of obsession with making smiley faces with it. My sister and I would also compete to see who could make the tallest cheese and cracker sandwiches. Good times.

Gonterpublicans...I like that name. The (non)arguments of these Gonterpublicans make me want to beat my head against the wall. However, I commend the efforts of Mimi and the ever-mysterious-Raptavio. Well done, soldiers!
SteveM  56
11-07-2004 05:58 PM ET (US)
Vegemite toast is one of the best things to eat of you have a hangover, hmmm salty goodness. Almost as good as a Mc D's cheesburger or three!

Vegemite is like a hotdog in a way, as long as you do not actively think about what is in it or how it is made then the product can be enjoyed, hmmm lips and assholes.

The trick with vegemite is to spread it thin and use butter, if you apply it like peanut butter then the result will be gross, your mouth will burn and it will taste like you just licked your sump plug.

Just remember, a little goes a long way.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  55
11-07-2004 05:42 PM ET (US)
1: It's...spray cheese. "Pasteurized cheese food product" (seriously, that's what it's called) in an aerosol can. Cheese-flavored whipped cream.

2: Like a blend of American cheese and Velveeta. Velveeta tastes like...Velveeta, American tastes like a blend of very bland cheese and the plastic it's wrapped in. I like it though, being American and eating it all my life and all.

3: You spray it on crackers, as opposed to cutting slices of cheddar or smearing brie. You can make little flowerettes with it, if artistically inclined.

4: Its inherent evil depends on several factors. If you're stoned, an impoverished college student, or white trashy, it's not bad at all.

Return question: What's up with Vegemite?
FistlekitsPerson was signed in when posted  54
11-07-2004 05:36 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-07-2004 05:36 PM
To answer your questions, SteveM:

1. I've always called it spray cheese, but there are other names for it, like the two you mentioned.

2. Depends on what flavor of cheese is in the can. I usually get cheddar, which tastes a little more tangy than a slice of the real stuff. (You know how you get "watermelon"-flavored candy that tastes nothing like real watermelon? It's sorta like that. Mega artificial flavor.)

3. Just about anything. Crackers, breads, spray cheese wars... if ya wanna spray it on your hand or fingers and lick it off, you can (but it's very messy; I'd stick with crackers or just spray it right on the tongue).

4. I never really thought about that until you brought it up...
SteveM  53
11-07-2004 05:27 PM ET (US)
I have a question for the group.
Over here in Australia we do not have, I am unsure what to call it, spray on cheese, cheese in a spray can?
Toots in Drawn Together was spraying the stuff on her tongue when she was in Bad Girl mode. I have also seen it on several TV shows.

My questions are,

1. What is it?

2. What does it taste like.

3. What do you use it for?

4. Is it really as evil as it looks?

Thanks.
Ernst Bitterman  52
11-07-2004 04:52 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-07-2004 04:54 PM
Lily: Okay Ernst, smart guy, what IS the proper pronunciation, then? I fear my 8 yrs. of honorary Canadian citizenship may be on the line here!
Fear not-- it's how we keep tabs of the dread Ontarian menace. Your papers are still in order. I can, however, only hint at the correct approach: Mmmm, schwa, we loves that schwa!

Steve: Yum! If it's available there, try to get ahold of Glen Goyne-- funny name, but the taste hits the same triggers as sinking into a plush leather chair by a crackling fire while a cat slumbers on your lap.

Mimi and the rest of the Gonterpublican Resistance League: I think a good hot fire is the only solution. A response to the mention of WWII might be something along the line of: NO ONE knew that Hitler was killing heaps of Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, and whatever else I've missed until 1945 when the Allied forces started stumbling over death camps. The whole effort against Germany was based on the fact that they were invading the hell out of everyone-- something Saddam wasn't doing at all. It might also be pointed out that part of the reason there's some much anti-US sentiment in the world is the amazing self-obsession and insularity of the nation, which WWII gives a great example of: most countries think the war started in the summer of 1939, not the winter of 1941.

It's worth asking someone why they hit you, too, if they hit you three times in the fac