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hi i am fatma from Egypt i send you a message and you don not replay please please i want the training code to can complete my master please help me thanks alot
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04-28-2008 01:01 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-28-2008 01:04 AM
I am doing a project on IP camera.Would like to know how to extract objects fron a scene.ie,how to identify individual objects in a frame produced by ip camera.Im doing d project in VC++.My email id is camproject@rediffmail.com
wise offman  86
04-16-2008 06:45 AM ET (US)
hi aam wise offman an undergrad student can anyone please give me the matlab codes for face detection.my email add is wise1610@hotmail.co.uk
fatma  85
04-11-2008 03:25 PM ET (US)
thank u for help me but i donot know how to run the face detecor code please help me my email : fatoma_elamora@hotmail.com
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mostafa Esalmi(Korosh)  80
03-13-2008 10:09 AM ET (US)
Hi freiand
I need matlab,c,or opencv code for eye localization,
I need this for face alignment .
hope to hear from you soon.
my mail is a.m.esalmi@gmail.com.
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03-04-2008 11:15 AM ET (US)
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AhNorm  78
02-26-2008 11:59 AM ET (US)
I'm looking for the MatLab source code which contain with the moving object detection using neural network.

My email is albertlyt@yahoo.com.sg

Hope to hear u soon!
Ira  77
02-26-2008 05:54 AM ET (US)
Hi, my name is Ira I'm an undergrad student in Kiev Poly-tech. Inst. I would like to use Viola Jones pedestrian detection in my project. Could you kindly send me a copy of your source code in c++ or in MatLab.

thank you

ira_vidrak@hotmail.com
fatma  76
02-25-2008 01:21 PM ET (US)
thank u for helping me but i want a cascade code to can continue thanks alot my email:fatoma_elamora@hotmail.com
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Bilal Ahmed  74
02-13-2008 05:15 AM ET (US)
helo hafiz nd fazal.what abut ur project.plz help me in my project
fatma  73
02-12-2008 12:20 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 02-12-2008 12:22 PM
Hi iam fatma i registered for master degree in computer science and my thesis about face detection through features so a need your training code to use in my work my email : fatoma_elamora@hotmail.com
             thanks alot
Bilal Ahmed  72
02-12-2008 06:26 AM ET (US)
Salm.hi every one .i am bilal ahmed.i am doing project on face detection and recognition in matlab. so any one who has some idea and codes or some other material plz share it with me .my id is bilal_813@hotmail.com.
thank u
bel  71
02-11-2008 12:40 AM ET (US)
Dear Imad Khoury and Mahdi Yektaii, Thank you so much for you guys' generosity and dedication. I am a student who is doing this project. i really need the code for training.
ali karimi  70
01-31-2008 08:18 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 01-31-2008 08:19 AM
Hi,I'm an undergrad student and I need Viola Jones pedestrian detection in MatLab to perform my project. Could you kindly send me a copy of your source code.
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01-15-2008 07:30 AM ET (US)
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bell  65
01-11-2008 11:44 PM ET (US)
i need the training code.please!send to asuka_sakura85@yahoo.com
bell  64
01-11-2008 11:26 PM ET (US)
hi....i'm a student.i need the code of viola jones face detection to finish my final year project.please help me to start from the training till the test set.thank you.please help me and send to asuka_sakura85@yahoo.com
Pragati  63
01-10-2008 04:03 AM ET (US)
Hi,I'm an undergrad student and I need Viola Jones face detection in MatLab to perform my homework. Could you kindly send me a copy of your source code.
Thanks
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bell  62
01-09-2008 10:46 PM ET (US)
Hi,I'm an undergraduate student, and I need Viola and Jones AdaBoost face detection in MatLab to perform my homework. Could you kindly send me a copy of your source code.i want to start the training image.please help me

Thanks a lot.

email:asuka_sakura85@yahoo.com
Michele - Talium  61
01-04-2008 04:40 AM ET (US)
Hi everyone,

I am also curious on face detection expecially on OpenCV platform. I would like to implement the face detection in C++. Could you please share your Adaboost training code with me or if you have any documents for me to write it myself.

Thanks a lot.

My e-mail: pisikasor@yahoo.com
Chen-Yu  60
12-27-2007 01:04 AM ET (US)
Dear every

I am a graduate student in Tainan, TAIWAN. After I read journal paper "Robust Real-Time Face Detection, " I have the following
questions about the adaboost training algorithm. I sincerely hope you could answer my questions.


1. For each haar-like feature, a lot of face and non-face samples are used
to train the weak classifier h(x,f,p,è). I wish to know how can I obtain a
suitable value of the threshouled è?

2. In your paper, you proposed "For each haar-like feature x, if pf(x)< pè, h
(x,f,p,è)= 1, else h = 0." Does pf(x) indicate the sum of all feature values
which were computed by x?

3. My advisor asked me to implement your paper to compare experimental
results with ours. Would you please provide me any implementation details or source code about this paper ?

Looking forward to your reply. Thanks for your help.

E-mail: m09505006@stumail.nutn.edu.tw
trp71126  59
12-18-2007 06:56 AM ET (US)
Hi,I'm an undergraduate student, and I need Viola and Jones AdaBoost face detection in C++/C#/MatLab to perform my homework. Could you kindly send me a copy of your source code.

Thanks a lot.

Email : trp71126@yahoo.com.tw
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Shin sang  56
11-15-2007 06:35 AM ET (US)
Hi,I'm an undergraduate student, and I need Viola and Jones AdaBoost face detection in C++/C#/MatLab to perform my homework. Could you kindly send me a copy of your source code.

Thanks a lot.

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Jacky  55
11-08-2007 10:31 PM ET (US)
Hi,I'm an undergraduate student, and I need Viola and Jones AdaBoost face detection in C++/C#/MatLab to perform my homework. Could you kindly send me a copy of your source code.

Thanks a lot.

Email: discove34@pchome.com.tw
hsan  54
11-08-2007 06:34 AM ET (US)
can ne 1 plz tell me face
dtecton
resources
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a student
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11-08-2007 06:29 AM ET (US)
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talha  50
10-21-2007 06:50 AM ET (US)
hi,could any one send me the matlab code for the viola-jones face detector
at talha_rasheed_1@hotmail.com
thanks
saqieer98  49
09-26-2007 04:57 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-26-2007 04:58 AM
Hi,everyone
I am a student studying the face recognition and now I need the matlab code of face normalisation which includes scaling, rotation and histogram normalisation. I will be appreciate deeply if you can send a copy of your source code, Thank you very much!
My E-mail: saqieer98@yahoo.com.cn
fifthzombie  48
08-21-2007 09:19 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 08-21-2007 09:19 PM
HI, I am a Chinese student in this field, would you please send me the souce code of the face detection method proposed by Viola? Thank you very much
  My email is :
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roshihanPerson was signed in when posted  47
08-15-2007 08:08 PM ET (US)
Hi,I'm an undergraduate student, and I need to implement Viola and Jones AdaBoost face detection in C++/C#/MatLab. Could you please send me a copy of your source code.

Thanks a lot.

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vinodh  46
08-09-2007 07:41 AM ET (US)
i'm very much curious to read ur code can u send me to the following e-mail.
vinodh_1987@yahoo.com
deepa  45
08-07-2007 05:57 AM ET (US)

I'm a student and I'm very interesting in your code.
I want to adapt it to people detection to.
Can you send me it please ?

deepavlsi@yahoo.co.in


Thanks,
R.Deepa
moha387@yahoo.com  44
04-17-2007 12:32 AM ET (US)
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Lucy  43
04-04-2007 12:31 PM ET (US)
Please they can help with I cosay source me to detect the faces in real time using matlab.

My mail is lucyameliax100@gmail.com

much Any aid or suggestion agradecere

Att. Lucy
imran  42
04-04-2007 01:45 AM ET (US)
hay guys i m doing some work in this field and i have just studied about ur work so i m interested in it so if u could just send me ur code for face detection,
my id is
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ayman mostafa  41
03-25-2007 09:17 AM ET (US)
please i want a matlab code for geometric face normalization(eye localization)
Tracy  40
03-11-2007 10:01 PM ET (US)
Dear Imad Khoury and Mahdi Yektaii,
 
Thank you so much for you guys' generosity and dedication. I am a student who is doing a project using boosting technique.
 
I have downloaded your code and tried to implement it on my computer. However, the results were not expected. No red rectangles around the faces and even my color image became gray scale image. I don't know why. BTW, I followed all instruction you posed on the web. The following is some information when I was implementing the code:
 
??? Not enough inputs for colon operator.
Error in ==> FaceDetectorLastWorking at 50
alpha_thresh = 3+sum(alpha_t_Array{stageindex}(1:T{stageindex}))/2; % threshold
Error in ==> FilteringRectangles>pushbutton1_Callback at 116
[arr imim]=FaceDetectorLastWorking(stindex,ss,xxx,yyy);
Error in ==> gui_mainfcn at 75
        feval(varargin{:});
Error in ==> FilteringRectangles at 49
    gui_mainfcn(gui_State, varargin{:});
??? Error using ==> FilteringRectangles('pushbutton1_Callback',gcbo,[],guidata(gcbo))
Not enough inputs for colon operator.
??? Error using ==> pause
Error while evaluating uicontrol Callback
 
Question1: Do you think that I need to train the data again?
Question2: Could you please send me the codes for training and the data set for training?
 
Looking forward to your reply.
 
Regards,
Tracy
laaroussi mohamed  39
03-07-2007 11:39 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-07-2007 11:40 AM
for the code " fast face detection " you find it at http://khoury.imad.googlepages.com/compute...on(comp358b)project
frontal face recognition task mainly based on the work of Viola and Jones
if you want another code for eye detection or face detection sind me email at moha387@yahoo.fr
Shams  38
03-06-2007 09:48 PM ET (US)
hi all
I'm a student and working in the area of face recognition. Can anyone send me the code for face detection using adaboost technique by viola and jones as a .rar or .zip file?
My email address is shams@csse.uwa.edu.au or sislam123@gmail.com
YingNongChen  37
02-14-2007 06:59 AM ET (US)
Hi everybody,




I'm a student and I'm very interesting in your code.
I want to adapt it to pedestrian detection to.
Can you send me it please ?

peterfrog.tw@yahoo.com.tw


Thanks,

YNChen
Gyong rae  36
01-15-2007 05:33 AM ET (US)
Hello everyone!!!!

Can anyone send me the code for face detection using adaboost technique by viola and jones as a .rar or .zip file

Email : nkr7777@dreamwiz.com

Thanks
oudjani  35
10-24-2006 12:16 PM ET (US)
hello. I'm ibrahim oudjani
thank you Mr, but please if you can send me a modele for adaboost training (as welle as the code Train_AdaBoost.m ) and if you can send me a detail or algorithm how the rectangular filter works for detecting face.
  
                     I need your help
for all docummentations, my email is:
oudjani@gmail.com

Thank you very much!
Mahud  34
10-23-2006 02:11 PM ET (US)
U must do it by urself to improve ur skils, if u need any help i can give u but be sure i m not going to give u the code.

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willeyson  33
10-23-2006 08:01 AM ET (US)
Hello.
I'm a student working on face detection in video image,I need a Matlab code that's Adaboost and face detection, please send me the code for face detection using adaboost.
This is my email:
baonan947@163.com

Thank you very much!
oudjani  32
10-22-2006 10:20 AM ET (US)
Hello.
I'm a student working on face detection in video image,I need a Matlab code that's Adaboost and face detection, please send me the code for face detection using adaboost.
This is my email:
oudjani@gmail.com

Thank you very much!
orenge  31
10-18-2006 12:34 PM ET (US)
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leila  30
10-05-2006 06:56 AM ET (US)
I'm working on face detection, please can ayone send me the code the viola and jones face detection in Matlab.
leilaess@yahoo.fr
Domenico  29
09-26-2006 06:45 PM ET (US)
I need this code too...i'm doing a similar work and i would like to have some kind of "inspiration". Could you please send me the matlab code?
This is my email:
domurb2000-groups@yahoo.it

Thank you very much!
Melody  28
09-25-2006 08:15 PM ET (US)
Hello!

I'm new doing some researches on face detection;
Would anyone please send me the code of adaboost algorithm preposed by Vola and Jones?

Thanks a lot!
Email: zhongmei@hawaii.edu
francis  27
08-24-2006 10:27 AM ET (US)
Hello!!
I'm also interested in face detection based on viola-jones.
Could you send me one??
thanks a lot!!!

Email: francis0218@hotmail.com
James  26
08-13-2006 11:53 PM ET (US)
Hello!!
Can anyone send me the code for face detection using adaboost technique by viola and jones as a .rar or .zip file
thanks a lot.
Email : yuhulin@gmail.com
celik  25
08-13-2006 05:32 PM ET (US)
Hello,I'm a student in a summer school, and I need to implement Viola and Jones detector in Matlab. Could you please send me a copy.

Thank you very much.

Email: mr_x1977@hotmail.com
Poul  24
08-09-2006 09:01 PM ET (US)
Hello all!!!!

I'm a student and I'm very interesting in your code.

Can you send me a copy?

Email : nihil1235@nate.com


Thanks
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Dragan_Person was signed in when posted  18
06-14-2006 05:30 PM ET (US)
Hello everyone!!!!

Can anyone send me the code for face detection using adaboost technique by viola and jones as a .rar or .zip file

Email : delerium_mk@yahoo.com


Thanks
Viet Truong  17
06-10-2006 08:48 AM ET (US)
Hi all

I'm a student and I'm very interesting in your code.

Can anyone send me the code for face detection using adaboost technique by viola and jones as a .rar or .zip file

Email : oceanboy20645@yahoo.com
AK  16
06-07-2006 03:58 AM ET (US)
hi all
I'm a student and doing the FYP for obstacle detection in a moving car.
Can anyone send me one copy of the code? Thank you.
My email: g0408529@nus.edu.sg
muziat  15
05-14-2006 10:25 AM ET (US)
hello to all
I'm a student and I'm very interesting in your code.

can anyone send me the code for face detection using adaboost technique by viola and jones as a .rar or .zip file to muziat@gmail.com
Lee Jen Chun  14
04-21-2006 03:17 AM ET (US)

I'm a student and I'm very interesting in your code.

can anyone send me the code for face detection using adaboost technique by viola and jones as a .rar or .zip file to g980301@ccit.edu.tw
nikhil  13
04-20-2006 04:48 AM ET (US)
can anyone send me the code for face detection using adaboost technique by viola and jones as a .rar or .zip file to bmallika@mix.wvu.edu.
enricofungPerson was signed in when posted  12
03-04-2006 10:01 AM ET (US)
Hi kmlee,

I'm very interesting in your face detection implementation and I want to develop a pedestrian detection based on it.
Can you send me a copy? (enricofung@hotmail.com)

Regards,
enrico
Jonathan  11
01-12-2006 05:30 AM ET (US)
Hi everybody,




I'm a student and I'm very interesting in your code.
I want to adapt it to pedestrian detection to.
Can you send me it please ?
kespite@esinsa.unice.fr


Thanks,

Jonathan
Wei  10
10-17-2005 01:44 PM ET (US)
hello, kmlee, I am interested in your implementation of v-j's adaboost face detector. I want to to develop an adaboost pederstrian detector based on their marr' prize paper in iccv2001. Could you please send me (du_david@yahoo.com) a copy of your implementation? Did you use all the features or just randomly select some features? Thanks in advance.

Wei
kmlee  9
08-08-2005 05:15 AM ET (US)
Hello to all

This is a request for collaboration for working on Viola and Jones' Adaboost algorithm.

Recently, Hamed Masnadi-Shirazi released his Matlab source as part of an assignment. I have taken the code and tidied it up a bit. But importantly, optimized to run 30 times faster. So to get the 10 best features, it now takes only about 1 hour using Matlab 6.1, on a 512 MB AMD 2.8+ Sempron processor under Win98. This was done mainly by replacing for-loops by their vectorized equivalents.

I've spent a lot of time trying to get very good results, but with memory restrictions and time catching up, I felt that I've taken the code as far as I can go. Specifically, I can only load in about a total of 1600 face or nonface examples only. Still I believe more can be done. I'd like some collaboration on this project.

So I would like to offer the current code to anyone who can use and improve on it. Please email me - kmleeATemailDOTcom.

A big thank you to Hamed and Ian Fasel, who is credited in the paper.

Neil Alldrin made his Matlab code for Pedestrian Detection using Adaboost available as well. A big thank you to Neil as well!

Here's a list of amendments to the code in order of significance:
- optimized code in training features - removing for-loops in several places significantly speeded up things
- Created code for the simpleboxeszero.m function
- Tidied up code for generating features in violaboxeszero - seemed to give incorrect looking features
- Provided code for calculating thresholds. One is testclassifier.m
  I have created another function to create thresholds - based on Viola and Jone's IJCV 2004 paper.
- Changed values for results in face/nonface detection to be 0 and 1 (as per original paper) instead of -1 and 1.
- Clarified algorithm in DisplayFeature.m -
   seemed like a mysterious piece of code, using trilinear matrices to get a picture of a feature!
   Created a new function to overlay a feature over an image and show the feature value calculated.
 The image and the feature number are selectable through a slider bar.
- created a function to read in and generate a list of desired files for training.
roxy james  8
12-15-2004 06:02 PM ET (US)
hi everyone:
does anyone know a paper by hamed masnadi-shirazi called adaboost face detection.. i tried to test the matlab code at the end, but some of the functions are undefined.. is it possible for any of you to find the complete version of this program and send it as a zipped file to my mail: roxyjames@hotmail.com or james197709@yahoo.co.uk

thx a lot.. i'm looking forward to your answer
Stephen Krotosky  7
10-26-2004 03:37 PM ET (US)
Regarding the comment that the robot has trouble detecting faces, I think it depends a lot on training. If it was only trained for frontal faces, it would be rather succeptible to rotations. The scaling of the face also seems to be an issue and of course complex background can give plenty of false positives if they are not initially well accounted for.
Steve Scher  6
10-26-2004 04:10 AM ET (US)
The idea of using many different detectors (all with low false-negative rates) to progressively screen out non-faces until only faces are left seems to depend on the various detectors being independent of each other. Training late-stage detectors only on data that passed through the early stages seems reasonable, but how are the features used in each stage chosen in the first place? Can the order in which features are incorporated into the cascade's stages be optimized to produce independent stages?


Rajit: the use of rectangular features was purely for computational efficiency (section 2.2, page 6). Looking at the figure on page 4, the features can be seen as crude approximations to first-order (a,b) and second-order (c,d) derivative-of-gaussian or gabor filters. The "integral image" is a computational-efficency thing, calculating an intermediate term for each pixel, storing them, and combining them many times (for the various features and subwindows).
Robin Hewitt  5
10-26-2004 01:08 AM ET (US)
Louka, thanks for pointing out that difference. I think the MPI implementation used Gentle Boost. False positives were as much an issue as false negatives. It found dozens of faces in the background to every one time it found my face. This could, however, be purely an implementation problem, and not a flaw in the method itself. It's not terribly surprising though that bookshelves and kitchens would match to lots of rectangle combinations, so that's why I started thinking more about backgrounds and how they might cause unexpected problems....
Louka Dlagnekov  4
10-26-2004 12:00 AM ET (US)
Robin, thanks for the link to the Viola-Jones implementation. This came up before in the Chen and Yuille paper last week. AdaBoost is designed to minimize the overall classification error – not minimize the number of false negatives. In “Fast and Robust Classification using Asymmetric AdaBoost and a Detector Cascade” from NIPS 2002, Viola and Jones discuss a modification to AdaBoost to correct for this by making false negatives cost k times more than false positives in the weight update step in each round. I’m not sure whether this implementation uses Asymmetric AdaBoost or not, but that can definitely have an impact on the results.
Rasit Topaloglu  3
10-25-2004 07:44 PM ET (US)
The authors seems to give no intuition why they tried to use rectangular features on their integral image. I think, the rectangles with three regions are nullifying the advantage, if any, gained by integrating the picture intensity up to a point (x,y) in the image. As a result, I am not amazed by the poor quality observed by Robin regarding the method.
Robin Hewitt  2
10-25-2004 01:48 PM ET (US)
About a month and a half ago I downloaded a V-J implementation from http://sourceforge.net/projects/kolmogorov I set it up to use with a webcam on a home robot, but was disappointed in how it performed. It really likes to find faces in my bookcase, for example. But it only finds my face when I'm at just the right angle to the camera. (This was the case even without my glasses.)

This could be an implementation (rather than a method) problem. Still, it got me thinking about possible method issues. One is background representation. It's probably impossible to train any detector on all possible backgrounds. Further, a specific implementation will have its own characteristic set of backgrounds. For that reason, it's desirable to have a method that the end user can easily train, or at least tweak.
Vincent Rabaud  1
10-24-2004 07:25 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 10-24-2004 07:25 PM
I had read this paper some time ago. I know some other applications have been deduced (tracking people, other Viola and Jones paper: Detecting pedestrians using patterns of motion and appearance) but I am just wondering if the method has been improved in speed by some other tricks (it's been 3 years now).
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