Thank you Kevin for your site! This SUV driving,America loving,Proud Mother of "Motivated" Sgt.K, who is serving with the 3/1, would simply like to express my gratitude for a chance to get an honest view of the life that the Honorable and Couragous Marines of Thundering Third are going through while they so bravely do their job.
I love it that we can live in a Country kept Free,Thanks to these wonderful heros in our United States Military. My Son and those he serves with deserve so much better then the ridiculous blah blah blah of "educated" (ha) naysayers. BUT...thanks to the sacrifice our Men & Women in the Military are making while they are away from those of us that LOVE & RESPECT & HONOR them, we get to live here, free to express believe without fear.
God Bless Our Military, Our Leaders, and The United States of America.
Semper Fi

Edited by author 11-14-2004 11:13 PM
David's earlier rant had a link to Rabid America, with tripe from Pravda, for gosh sake. Go to the Pravda forums and you'll read all about how we never landed on the moon, how it was all faked. Plenty of good source material there to back up an argument. Wow. And the Viet Nam war parallels just won't fly. The Viet Cong never killed 4000 plus Americans in NYC with American planes. Plus, I'll bet Kevin's documentation will reveal that far fewer Iraqis are dying in Falluja than imported Syrian, Iranian and other fanatics. We messed around too long negotiating with Hussein. The weapons were moved during that time. And it IS correct that the militant Muslims have their sights on Europe. The Europeans will discover this, as the Dutch are beginning to realize. I think the French will not be far behind. Their Muslim population will soon be overwhelming.

Crap! Sorry, wasn't supposed to do that.

For those of you with family/friends in Kilo 3/1, MSNBC's website just posted a story from Newsweek http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6479631/site/newsweek/. Also, Kevin had good coverage on NBC's Nightly News tonight, for those of you who didn't get to see it. Hopefully, they'll have a video-link to it on the MSNBC website, and a dialog of it on Kevin's site. My best wishes to all of them.

And, for the record, Jesus would ride a chopped, rigid Panhead.

Clives rant is the kind of stuff that got Bush elected. Clive, to make a difference, you going have to tell the truth. Piling it on eventually results in a lie. Trouble is, The truth is often boring! Al Jazeera has the same problem.

Street by street is real and true, I’m sure. Marines nervous and angry about being shot at makes sense. Not flattering, but it shows the dark side of bravery and how awful war is.

The young Scottish and American soldiers look so scared, and I wonder how their deaths will be justified afterwards by 'our' side - the coalition's - much less the Iraqi deaths. Fallujah is full of civilians as well as insurgents.

Wow Dhavi! If you voted for Bush, how about a little Christian restraint.

BTW, I don't drive an SUV but a rather modest 2 door coup that gets 25 mpg.

What would Jesus drive? Since you vote for morals, you ought to know.

God bless America!?! Here's a wierd sticker you guys like to have on your humvees: America Bless God!

Now what the heck does that one mean?

Ready to be enlightened,

Sandra Dee

Hey Sandradee, You must be living under a rock, Therefore you don't need to use our valuable resources then do you?
May I ask what kind of SUV you're driving? In case you haven't noticed, We still pay two bucks a gallon for gas.
You MORON!

US Forces cannot control the streets on the West Side of Chicgo, in East LA, or you pick the the city. What gives Uncle Sam the right to bring 'Democracy' anywhere?

Folks -
Can we please honor Edman's request to save this forum for friends and family to check on their loved ones?
(I've been guilty of posting my political views too, Edman - sorry.)

So why does the [Roosevelt] regime continually murder and mutilate in [Europe and Asia]? Surely they know that when they murder someone's family, whether it be ground fire or 1000 pound bombs dropped from aircraft, the survivors/relatives will forever think of nothing else than to get back at them? For every dead [Nazi soldier], 10 more arise.
So why do they do these crazy things? Are they crazy, indeed?
No.
The reason they do it is that they want to continue in power for ever and ever. And it is not [German Nazis or Japanese Fascists] who threaten that power: it is the USA citizens who have the power to vote them out.
So, the increase of terror threats is actually a BENEFIT to the Corpocrats. It gives them the excuses they need to recruit more police, more CIA, more FBI, to demand your library records, to shut your Web site down [comment: who's web site has been shut down?]. . . bring it on! More terror! More police! (to hold YOU down, dear citizen.)
Wake up before it's too late. [My God, imagine how bad things will be 10 years from now, in 1953!]

Let me get the straight - you say that our Marines are being "hunted" in Fallujah by unseen enemies all around them. Gee, that's funny. The news reports that I have seen say that our Marines took the city in less than a week and killed 600 insurgents while losing about 30 or their own. A 20 to 1 ratio! It looks likes somebody is trying to paint the wrong picture. I almost get the feeling that you wish that more Marines would die to satisy your desperate longing to see George Bush fail. Jerk.

I think Bush invaded and now "occupies" Iraq for two reasons:

1. Revenge
2. Oil

Republicans are the party of corporate interests afterall. This Halliburton thing is part of the fascism of the Republican party.

Clive, you write as nothing has ever happened to trigger our response. You bought the Michael Moore kite flying scene hook line and sinker. The killing of 'insurgents' does not necessarily create more. This uprising is hardly popular with Iraqis. If it were, why aren't there such scenes in Basra? or Halabjah? If you look on a map, you would see that the cities where insurgent activity takes place runs along the Tigris and Eurphrates right up to Syria. Local indeed.

The rest of your post reeks with paranoia. You describe corporate interests as the motivation for Library survailance and website shutdowns. How this furthers a profit is anyones guess. It's like the underpants gnomes on South Park.

Step one: steal underpants or probe library records

Step two: ????

Step three: profit

Sorry, doesn't add up.

So why does the Bush regime continually murder and mutilate in the Middle East? Surely they know that when they murder someone's family, whether it be ground fire or 1000 pound bombs dropped from aircraft, the survivors/relatives will forever think of nothing else than to get back at them? For every dead insurgent, 10 more arise.
So why do they do these crazy things? Are they crazy, indeed?
No.
The reason they do it is that they want to continue in power for ever and ever. And it is not terrorists or insurgents who threaten that power: it is the USA citizens who have the power to vote them out.
So, the increase of terror threats is actually a BENEFIT to the Corpocrats. It gives them the excuses they need to recruit more police, more CIA, more FBI, to demand your library records, to shut your Web site down . . . bring it on! More terror! More police! (to hold YOU down, dear citizen.)
Wake up before it's too late.

If we go back in history to 1914, the Ottoman Empire (Turkey) was the ruler from Palestine to Persia. The victors of WWI divided up the Middle east to suit their commercial interests (an deprive Turkey of theirs). The British selected what is now oil rich Iraq and Palestine. The French got Syria and Lebanon. Artificial borders were set (not unlike colonial and post colonial Africa.) As always, the Brits played one group off against the others. (Not unusual here -- this goes back to the days of Sumeria, Assyria and Babylonia.) A figurehead king was invited in -- a Hashemite Sunni ruling with the usual set of British colonial advisors who trained the police, the army and a few aircraft. The country remained restive between the two number World Wars. A large Jewish trading population remained until the establishment of the state of Israel, whence through a combination of Zionist pressure to return from the Diaspora and Iraqi fears of a foreign subversive entity an exodus occcurred.

The fascist and secular Ba'athist movement arose in neighboring Syria. It gained a foothold among the (mainly Sunni) Iraqi army officer corps. Thence, after a period of time came the rise of Saddam Hussein and his Tikriti gangsters. Tikrit was the city of his birth. Assad the elder in Syria crushed in the name of Ba'athism the fundamentalist Sunni movement wherever he found it. In Iraq, Saddam used the minority Sunni population -- especially Tikritis -- as leverage against the majority Shi'ites and the Kurds.

It is important to realize that there are fundamental differences between Sunni and Shia sects. The former believe in the primacy of the religious pronouncements on all sectors of life. The Imams are supreme arbiters in all matters. The Shia religious leaders (called Mullahs) believe that the religious and the secular co-exist, each has a place in society.

It is also important to realize that because of this creed, Arab Shi'ites (in Iraq) at the top (senior cleric al-Sistani) have no truck with the Persian Shi'ite Mullahs in Iran. This is an area in which the U.S. has exhibited a misunderstanding of Iraqi events. We indirectly permitted the assassination during this conflict of three senior Shi'ite Arab Mullahs. We permitted the rise of the false Mullah (not religiously educated) al-Sadr. He has complicated matters.

For a serious discussion of the troubles caused by the fundamentalists -- Jewish, Moslem and Christian -- in the Middle East -- please read "The Battle For God" by Karen Armstrong.