I worked at the Herald Examiner for two years, 1983 & 1984, as Ad Mgr. Worked with my good friend David Feldman. Selling for the #2 paper was a great experience, it sure sharpened your sales skills. Went from LA to Portland OR, to be VP of Sales at the Oregonian. What a change going from the sales battle with the LATimes to being the number one paper in the State. Left Portland in 1989 to work for Newhouse in NY, running there National Sales Company, Metrosuburbia.