Edited by author 12-27-2004 04:52 PM
What is with DVK and concrit?
Everytime someone says anything about his art, like how about some backgrounds or his spelling/grammar, he comes out with 'the deadline made me do it that way'.
What f'ing deadlines... who is it that is screaming at him to publish his crap. Am I missing something vital here ? Does he have a publisher who imposses these 'deadlines'?
I know from the counter on his website that he does not have thousands of adoring fans, there are only about 10-20 regular readers. I bet most of them are from here anyway.

Edit: Can you tell the "miscarriage" comment pissed me off?
Admit it Davey, your art sucks. Don't blame it on non-existent, imagined events.

Aww. I'm sorry to hear about that, Negaduck. Your sister's gotta be a strong woman and I'm sure that her children have helped her more than she could ever imagine.

I can't understand why anyone would think of miscarriages as "evil" or why anyone would even think of using them as casual plot devices. Davey could have at least made Wendy--excuse me, "Copper's wife"--unable to conceive.

It kind of reminds me of an exercise I did in an acting class. I made up a character on the spot: a middle-aged woman in the 1920s who was unable to conceive. To make up for her infertility, she grew and nurtured a garden in her yard, and the flowers in turn symbolized her femininity (whee, two-for-one symbolism!).

Of course, Davey couldn't scrounge up any symbolism or deeper (and more sensitive) plot elements if he was given an in-depth manual written by Stan Lee. He doesn't have the maturity.

Edited by author 12-27-2004 08:03 PM
Well why does she even NEED to have lost a child to love an adopted child? It seems to be a stupid, pointless insert that will probably never be brought up again.

My best friend's sister just suffered through one, and I simply can't imagine how she's carrying on. Davey's such an ass.

It's good to see that whatever random interest DVK picks up still ends up in his comics, including an "overhawl" of his past works. Quick, someone send him some "How Not To Draw Man Shaped Boxes" books or something.

By the way, and I've been meaning to come in and post this for a couple days now.....

The day after I saw the postcard of the fishes feeding, we were flipping through TV and I had to stop when I saw the same exact scene on a show. I exclaim "Where the Ducks Walk on Fish!" and mom is looking at me like I'm insane and barking at me to change the channel (it's far grosser looking when they're in there squirming around and gaping at the camera *shudder*).

Edit: On an up note, someone shared the "Kitty Kristmas" page - http://www.fluffytails.ca/christmas.asp

I wonder if using mosquito netting over a two foot perimeter of the tree would deter this kind of nonsense. I hate to get a pet someday and have to switch to crappy satin dime store balls instead of my pretty, unique, irreplaceable ornaments :(

'the deadline made me do it that way'

Looking over his site yesterday, I saw that he's recently used "I was pet-sitting for my parents" and "thanks to Mickey Dee's" as excuses. Since McDonalds was only working him 2 shifts a week last we heard, that one's suspect. And as for the first, I find it impossible to believe he hasn't lived at home his entire life. He'd know how much an apartment rents for if he didn't.
So, yeah, anything to get out of facing the fact that he's a hack.

The miscarriage thing seems to be like the gay thing--it's something that he just threw in there without it actually having any bearing on the plot, and without it occuring to his clueless lil' brain that people might find it tasteless or offensive. I imagine it's a trait that spills over into his personal life.

Holy shazbot, the upcoming Aeon Flux movie looks like it might not be all that bad: http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.ht...04-12/03/13.30.film

Bill:without it occuring to his clueless lil' brain that people might find it tasteless or offensive. I imagine it's a trait that spills over into his personal life.
I think I've mentioned this before, but isn't that one of the symptoms of Asperger's? The total inability to discern and control your own social skills(or lack thereof)?
Clearly he has no idea when he's being an arse. He can be amiable enough when the conversation is very mild, but get him onto any specific topic and he starts hijacking it, steering it towards his own perceived expertise and only revealing further how ignorant and obnoxious he is.
His works might not suck SO much if he just did ONE at a TIME, not the three or more projects he's currently doing all at once.

LaGrey:

aeon: "...it's bottom line a love story."
Hah? A love story with the main character getting killed every 5 minutes?

Mimi:

Hmm, Asperger's, interesting thought. But aren't those people incredibly focused? This guy can't even learn to spell "towards." He's clearly got some narcissism problems. He might be so egotistical that other people don't fully exist to him. They're there to either bask in his glory, or they're the as-bad-as-the-9/11-hijackers critics of his martyrdom.

I did laugh at that link you gave for his To-Do list. Yeah, like ANY of that's getting done. Whatever happened to that Night...whatever it was, with the gruesome murders?

Bill:But aren't those people incredibly focused?
I dunno... obsessing about the SAME DAMN PLOT DEVICES and ignoring all pleas and threats to IMPROVE... PLEASE!!! for the last 7 years seems pretty focused to me. ;)
I guess when one's life is spent being ridiculed, openly AND quietly, by others.. it's not totally implausible to escape into a totally self-created world where everything you do is heroic and everything you think or say is hailed and worshipped as Holy Writ. None of us are psychologists, but that could be a classic coping mechanism.
Davey discovering the internet was probably an epiphany. The anonymity of the Net, combined with the lack of any Manners Police and the ability to flee the consequences of your actions (ie. log off), probably instilled in him a confidence he couldn't muster in real life.
Most people outgrow it by their twenties, tho'....:/

Edited by author 12-28-2004 01:17 PM
Holy Crap, that was a busy couple of days. I wonder what the ego that (presumably) walks like a man would make of Marcie presuming to describe the majority of HIS sensations, or describing possibly unwelcome transformations....

I think the notion underlying "miscarriage=evil" is that GOD has judged the woman as unfit for motherhood, which is, of course, the woman's sole valid role. HISS! EVIL! Sez so in the Bibble! *sigh*

None of us are psychologists, but that could be a classic coping mechanism.

I got my Baby's First Psychologist Papers (a BA, which in latin translates into "Big Deal"), and it sounds good to me. Funny, this is the fourth mention of Asperger's I've run across on various fora since last friday. An autism whose time has come, it seems.

edit piaf-- For the benefit of those with sensible sytems of measure properly integrated into cooking; see quart, think litre, see pint, think 500ml, see cup, think 250ml. A tablespoon is 15ml, a teaspoon 5ml. Other math is your look-out ;-)

Re my sister: she handles it with a lot of tears and the support of the parts of the family that give a damn. She really wanted to have children. Every time she found out she was pregnant she avoided anything that could put it at risk, and often lost it anyway. (Meanwhile, some of her friends were farrowing out "oops" after "oops.") What really had her furious was that, when she passed the danger point with her daughter, my father's wife called her, told her that she thought God had caused her to miscarry over and over, and then wanted my sister to name her upcoming daughter after her. WTF?!

Re Asperger's: I don't know whether this is an actual illness or just a label they've made up that's being applied to any maladjusted twit, like one of the girls who made the cake out of glue and crap. Labels come and go with the fashion: ADD, autism, etc. Hell, my nephew was once diagnosed with autism. It was bullshit, however - his parents treated him like an infant, so at age 3 he still acted like one. As soon as he went to school he started acting more like a normal kid, which would not have happened with a real autistic child. My point: I don't give too much value to fashionable labels like that.

I've known DVK longer and more in depth than anyone here. I helped manage a set of AOL file libraries in the late Cartoons Forum with him once. It was an incredible experience! He was always polite and acted willing and helpful - but some of the things he did... well, they show that friendliness was not the same as actually paying attention to what the hell you're doing. Before my friend and I joined the team he'd been managing things alone, and it took us months to sort out the mess he'd made. (I'm being careful what I say here. Nondisclosure agreements, don't'cha know. All I'm posting here was common knowledge on the forum, where people actually made a petition to get him out.)

As for his improving if he focused on one thing - nope. He used to be tightly focused on other things, like his STH and Sailor Moon stuff. He did somewhere in the teens of Sailor Moon comics, most of which are sadly lost now. And focus didn't improve quality none; he just spiraled around in tighter and tighter circles until he effectively disappeared up his own output port. In his Sailor Moon comics, for example, he wrote the creator in and had her praising Davey's work over that of everyone else and saying that he was a truer fan than those who called themselves fans. Those same people, BTW, had recently cast him out as a nutcake.

You're so vain, you probably think this song is about you...

Reading the last, a thought occurs: what are the chances of getting DVK interested in the works of Harlan Ellison? God know Ellison LOVES it when other people play in his sand-pile, it could prove an epic, Godzilla-esque battle of the egos. Loads of fun to watch if you're at the right distance... ;-)

(Checks watch; wonders how long it'll be before Zef Photoshop-abuses this)

Dang, i was already making up schemes for the photoshops, then i read that. :P , Bill! Anyway, it'll be quite a bit. we moved to a new home, and it doesn't have phone line yet. so i can't get resource pics and such. (maybe i can collect them here at work and work on it at home, but first i have to settle the mess that my new room is)

I just took another good look at the Almighty Super Peter Pan-esque Adam (with ugly dame holding action!) and Plastic Garbage Bag Hair Nitwit picture and realized that Nitwit doesn't have a nose.

I'm glad that Davey hasn't tried to rip off Harry Potter yet. One can only imagine Davey kicking Harry's ass in Quidditch and winning the heart of the pubescent Hermoine who'll cosplay as Sailor Moon in her spare time and cast spells while screaming cute phrases like "Android Fox Glittery Fuku Smash!".

I hope I didn't jinx that.

I just printed out the last couple of days of Comments to read on the long bus ride home, but just a quick question, cos I know y'all play games way more than I do:

Gerry wanted to see how I'd do at TyperShark, and I just finished my first game ending up at Level 20, with slightly more than 991,000 points. Do any of you know this game, and how many levels there are, or what the average points are? (It's at pop.cap.com, btw.) Considering that the only games I've ever played are Columns and Tetris--gee, can't tell I'm a girl at all, huh?--I just wanna know what I'm shooting for, as it were.

Bill, I hope you're over le mauvais problème d'estomac! I'm on day 4 of the same, and just am REALLY glad I get to go home and go to bed soon. :P

"Hah? A love story with the main character getting killed every 5 minutes?"

Heh. Wouldn't that be cool, though?

All I have to say is, it better not have a happy ending! The happy ending is antithetical to the Aeon of Fluxness.

Lav:
The link makes it unclear whether it's filmed in Germany, or a German film. I'm guessing (as it's late and I don't want to Google) that it's HOLLLLywood, as Bullwinkle would say. Which means that it'll have a Happy Ending.
Possibly they'll all come back from the dead after the final act, singing "Happy Ending" from PDJ Bach's "The Stoned Guest." And that one guy at the end's tooth will still get blown out and fall into that jar.
And the Tooth Fairy will give him a quarter!