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Cool site Darcman! It's got my vote!

Edited by author 08-27-2004 06:27 PM
Hi
Under the League Executive area why are there no pictures of the execs? One other question for you. Will we be able to submit our scoresheets on the site? Other than that the site looks good Darcy. Nice job

Hey Mike,

There are no pictures because as far as I know there have never been any pictures of the executive every taken. However, that can be something to add to the site for the years to come should the league opt to continue to pay for the site, and that is to have pictures of the league executive and team pictures of the championship teams. That would be neat.

Primarily no, you would not be able to submit your score sheets to the site. Right now, the only way that you could submit your sheets online is to scan your scoresheet and then e-mail it to myself or Judy. Presently there is only one captain that does that, and that is yourself Mike. You may continue to do that if you like for this year however. If anyone else wants to do that they can as well. Otherwise, a fax from the bar at the end of your games seems to work the best so far as far as timing etc. However, I am not saying that there will not be a day where you can submit your scoresheets through the site, I'm just saying that as of right now, there are no plans to have that option available just yet.

I hope that I have answered your questions and I hope that if anyone else has any questions, that they either e-mail me the_darcman@hotmail.com or just leave them here.

Thanks for the kind words about the site Mike & Me. If there's ever anything that you guys would like to see or see changed or whatever just drop me a line. Thanks.

Edited by author 10-06-2004 07:16 PM
You know, you guys can say something here if you all want to.

How is the executive doing this year?

What do you think of some of the new locations?

What do you think of some of the new teams?

How many 180's will Shawn Solomon get this year?

Are you gonna destroy your next opponents, like the Snipers are gonna beat up on Double Trouble next week?

Or do you have a complaint about something? Remember you can be anonymous on here by simply using a knickname or whatever. The choice is yours.

It would just be nice to see some people saying something whether it's good or bad!

Just wanted to say after polling our team personel we have come to the conclusion that this league is officially "Really fun". We might have to revise that statement after we play "Royce's Nightmare" next week!!! Thanks to Darcy and everyone else who are helping us learn the ropes. Team Phoenix is looking forward to meeting everyone! Heres wishing everyone good luck this season. Cheers!

Ya, those Royce's Nightmare players are pretty mean! I'd watch yourself Spero!

Hi Darcy!
     Just wanted to drop a line to tell you what a great job you have done with this website! This will save a ton of paper and ink and gas money for running the stats around town every 2nd week like I had to do last year. By the way, I still have some expenses that need to be repaid to me from last year. Since we got new trophies at $160 each for a total of $480 for the divisions A, B and C, the expenses went over budget, which I paid for out my own pocket so the league could have trophies with our new league name, Regina Pub Dart League. I will be submitting my expenses to the new executive next week some time and hopefully I will be reimbursed for my monies soon. Thanks Darcy for all that you have done for this league! You have added excitement and fun with your stats and personality! It was great working with you last year!

HEY DARCY CANNOT SEEM TO FIND STANDINGS ON THE SITE

Hey Kim,

The reason why you couldn't find the standings was a simple one, it was because I'm an idiot!

I have now taken some 'smart pills' and now the standings are back up on the site where they were last time!

DOH!

Thanks for pointing that out Kim.

HEY DARCMAN WHEN IS THE AFTER XMAS SCHEDULE GOING TO BE POSTED

Edited by author 12-07-2004 02:57 PM
Hey Kim,

The after Xmas schedule will be posted after Xmas...make sense? I'm just kidding!

Anyway, I can't do up the new schedule until all the games are played from the 1st session as the last couple of spots are going to take up to the last week to determine. I believe there are 4 teams all within a game or two of each other all trying to get that last spot in the A division. Until that is determined I can't do the schedule as I won't know the locations.

I will post the schedule up on the site first and will send out a bulk e-mail to all the e-mail addresses that I have on file for the RPDL.

If there is anyone who wishes that their e-mail address is included please e-mail me at:

the_darcman@hotmail.com

Also, all the captains (that I do not already deal with on a regular basis via e-mail) will be notified once the schedule is up.

I hope that answers your question Kim. If anyone has any others, please feel free to ask me. Thanks.

As per my e-mail that went out to the captains:

I am requesting comments/opinions on the following:

For the second session, do we want to play a more fair but shorter 10 game season (by playing each team twice and that's it), or play our usual 12 game season and leave the last 2 (or first two?) games up to blind luck?

AS FAR AS OUR TEAM GOES 10,12,15 WHATEVER

YOU CAN NOW REACH BERNARD AT

BYAWORSKI@GMAIL.COM

DARCY I THINK YOU SHOULD DIVIDE INTO THREE SECTIONS
AND PLAY 12 WEEKS BARS WOULD PROBABLY LIKE MOREWEEKS

It wouldn't be cool to divide up into 3 divisions as you'd be in a division with 3 other teams and you'd be playing the same 3 teams 4 times within 12 weeks and that wouldn't be very fun to play the same team for a month!

There are good things and bad things about the 10 week schedule over a 12 week schedule. The fact that the pubs lose 2 weeks worth of revenue is one of the bad things, however, out of all the people that submitted a response back to me regarding the question that I posed, most of the people thought that the more fair 10 week schedule was the way to go, and just throw a tournament in there somewhere, so that's what we've done.

Your opinion matters, but it has fallen into the minority vote. Thanks for the info on Bernard, I will update my list as soon as I get the last 3 score sheets.

I am still waiting for Vic Club, Can't Tell Ya and Hanson 5 to submit their score sheets, until I get them, I cannot do any updating or any schedules.

Please ensure that you guys read the RPDL News for information on how the 2nd session will run. Thanks.

Edited by author 12-17-2004 03:38 PM
CHECK YOUR MATH EXAMPLE VIC CLUB 14 TEAMS 73 DOUBLES
91 SINGLES = 178 YOU HAVE THEM AT 169

AND IF YOU ADD THEIR WEEKLY SHEET IT COMES TO 179

Thanks for pointing that out Kim. There was a problem with the sorter a couple of weeks ago and the overall totals were a bit askew. Since the 701, 501 & 301 totals don't really mean anything, I didn't bother to double check them. I will ensure that the totals used for the standings are correct. However, I probably will not go back and go through each teams totals for each section (unless of course I do have time to do it) as it really doesn't matter now that the first session is over and it is the standings totals that really count anyway. What I will do though is do my best to ensure that this doesn't happen in the second session. As I said before, there was a problem with the sorter for one week and it seems to have had a ripple effect throughout the rest of the stats. If there are any other errors that you find, please feel free to point them out to me.

I now have all the sheets from all the games played for this past week. Since this is the week before Christmas, I have to start my Christmas shopping, so I'm not 100% sure that I'll get everything up this week, but when I do, I will have all the totals double checked.

Thanks again Kim, and if you find any more errors, please feel free to e-mail me at:

the_darcman@hotmail.com

The site is now updated and all the information for the new 2005 season is now up on the site.

If anyone sees any errors, either e-mail me or leave a message here.

i wood like to see some rules so i wood not have to remind them what they can and not to do.

I am working on that Tim.

will this be done before the playoffs start?
and who will enforce these rules?
how will they be enforced?
is there a rule for that?

Edited by author 01-18-2005 07:56 PM
In response to C.A.'s questions:

"will this be done before the playoffs start?"
Dunno, it depends on how much time I get before then.

"and who will enforce these rules?"
We've always played by the honor system before and there never has really been any problem before, so I suppose we'll just keep that implemented.

"how will they be enforced?"
All I can suggest, is that if there is a problem, the two captains should discuss it and come up with a solution then and there. If they can't do that and need to contact someone they can always call wherever the Brews & Cues Dragons are playing and talk to either Gerry or Brian, or they can call me on my cell 533-9676.

"is there a rule for that?"
No, but I think I just made one!

What rules are you talking about.
Details Please

We are wondering what rules too, are they Pub League Rules, or are they Sask Dart League Rules? Or are you just a new league starting out and need rules to follow?
How many people can play in one night 5 or 6? Can you rotate 6 players for singles, double and team?
But just getting the basic rules for everyone to follow would be good. Do you ever have Captain's meetings so these things can be rectified?

Responses to Mike & C.A.

"We are wondering what rules too, are they Pub League Rules, or are they Sask Dart League Rules? Or are you just a new league starting out and need rules to follow?"

Basically, they would be pub league rules. Just a basic outline of how a night of darts should be played for the three sections (701, 501, 301) and some 'little known' or 'forgotten' rules. (ie: You can't tell someone what to shoot for, if you go over the line to look at your dart, don't touch the dam thing! etc.). To my knowledge there really isn't a 'RULE BOOK' persay, but they should follow the NDFC/SDA as much as possible (within reason, we don't want to make things too stuffy!).

"How many people can play in one night 5 or 6? Can you rotate 6 players for singles, double and team?"

To my knowledge, you can have more than 4 players and yes they can rotate through each '01 section. As Vice President, I don't see anything wrong with a paid in full member of the league subbing in to play however many games of 701, 501 or even 301. However, please note that I said a 'paid in full member'. Not just Joe Blow who only spares for your team a couple of times a year and hasn't paid a cent to play!

"But just getting the basic rules for everyone to follow would be good."

I agree, and that's where I was sorta going with this. There are still some debates some nights as to how a person playing with a doe in 501 should be shooting when they are under 100 points. There's nothing actually written in black and white that says anything about it. That's the sort of stuff that I wanted to touch on.

"Do you ever have Captain's meetings so these things can be rectified?"

The only time that the Captains meet is at the beginning of the year. As far as I am concerned, that is the proper place and forum for Captains to be asking the executive in attendance these types of rules. However, it is rare that any types of these questions are ever asked at those meetings. At present, there are no plans to have a "Captain's Meeting" as you are describing, but hopefully there can be a place on this website for stuff like that. I would like to have a section where I take an e-mail and answer it on the site so that there is a record of the proper answer somewhere.

That is my plan anyway. I hope that I've answered some of your questions, please feel free to keep any comments, suggestions or questions coming.

So you are saying if I want 8 or 10 people on my team, as long as they are paid members I can use them all in the same night. No cap on number of players interesting.
And if I want to make a "rule"(with in reason of course) as long as I say it exists somewhere I can use it "little known" or "forgotten". Even more interesting. Also you are saying there are NO Pub league rules just basic rules, so why not call it Sask Darts League, or National Dart Federation League, if those are the formal rules you play with. Why bother to call it a Pub League, unless you only play in Pubs. What do you mean "doe" score, if you don't have a partner you don't get a score. Basic rule.
Why don't you have meetings for the regular members, so they can come and ask questions? Or is your league so big that only the captains can come to the meetings?
When you have your meetings how are they run?

Here's my 2 cents on the rules, having been through this before. A ball league I play in went through this exact hassle of rules and who's do we use, we used to have this rule, etc..
After a while the rules that were historically used have been lost over the years due to teams quitting, not passing all info to new exec, etc.. What I think needs to happen is that someone (or a group) needs to sit down and write down all the rules that are only used by the RPDL, otherwise the SDA or NDFA rules are in force. This will greatly decrease people saying that there is this rule that you can't ...... If it is written and handed out, usually at the beginning of the year, then there is no way people will try to enforce rules that are only hearsay, especially to the new members who don't know any better.
As for meetings, too many during the year can be a hassle too. One or two at the beginning to get things going, one during season for updates and the year end. Generally these would be Captains only and it would be up to them to let the team know about rule changes, etc.
Is that more than 2 cents worth??

This league at one time had a rule that all players on a team no matter how many if they were to play in the singles and doubles games must have played in the team game first. If they did not play the team 701 then they cannot play any portion of the rest of the night either (Singles or Doubles).

I suggest that you hold a meeting at the beginning of the year stating that ALL members must attend. Then give each one of them the rules and if there are any changes that need to be made VOTE on them. Seems like there are to many standard rules of play broken in this league. I can see why it has become so small and petty. Also, a finiacial statement would be nice to see and hear. I don't mean oh we have $20.00 in the bank kind of financial statement either. I mean the kind that shows what the total income is and what the total losses are (with the actual receipts to back them up if necessary).

Hi Darcy
I want to know why when Connie and Rory called you about signing up their team you denied them saying it was to late. As a league that is getting quite desperate for teams I say you should take all comers no matter what. You could have told them they would receive zeros for the weeks already played and worked them into the schedule.

Hey Mike,

The reason why is because it would've been much more hassle than it's worth. Do you realize just how much time it takes to make up the schedule? And then on top of all that, try and redo the schedule after week 3 and then try and put byes into the schedule starting in week 4 and then try and make it fair to everyone even though not all the teams are going to get byes now that I've had to redo the schedule.

If you volunteer to do a fair schedule and explain to the other teams who paid their money but will get 1 less game because they'll receive a bye when other teams wont just because I wanted to try and squeeze this team in, then I'd look at letting them in.

As for now, I'm more than willing to put them on a list for next season and try to expand the league then. At least I have been proactive in trying to expand the league and I have potentially 5 new teams for next year, including Rory's team. They were not interested in the spare thing this year.

I appreciate your help, but it's just way more hassle than it's worth and isn't fair to all the other teams to put another team in our league when we're already 3 weeks in and then start handing out byes to other teams. I explained it all to Rory and he seemed cool with it. He didn't think we were already at week 3. He thought we were still at week 1.

I hope this answers your question and thank you so much for helping to help the league.

 Hi Darcy,

I wasn't sure how we were going to split up into divisions after the seeding round I have a suggestion. The first 4 teams make up the A division, the next four teams make up the B Division, the last six make up the C Division.

This would be better for the new players, and teams. If we are playing 10 weeks as we did last year, so for the A & B division they play each team in there division twice, and each team has a cross over with the other division. This makes 10 weeks. The C division, then plays two games against each team in the division, which also makes 10 weeks.

So Darcy, what do you think about this???

Any other comments from other players is welcome.

Thanks,



Greg Giesinger

Hey Greg,

I haven't concretely decided which way to go in the new year as far as divisions were concerned, but I was leaning towards going with a 6 team A division and an 8 team B division. However, the final standings from the first session would end up determining that for sure. If there are 8 strong teams, then it would be an 8 team A division, etc..

Just want to point out a couple of things about your idea.

#1 - I like it simply because it incorporates the return of the C division. That would be great!

#2 - If you have 4 teams in a division and you play each team in your division twice, that only gives you 6 games, so if you wanted to do crossover matches, you'd end up doing 4 matches, not just 2. There's not really a lot of point in setting up divisions if 40% of your games are going to be from a different division. If you go with a 6 team division you play all teams in your division twice and that's it, you're done, no cross overs at all. It just works a lot better.

I'm not against your idea at all, but it does bring up some logistical problems. If you have any suggestions on how to alleviate those problems, I'm more than willing to listen.

Remember, if any of you have any questions/concerns/ideas, please do not hesitate to either contact me or throw them up here. Thanks for your comments Greg, if you can work on a format for next season, I'm more than willing to look at it. However, 14 teams is just a bit small to run 3 divisions I think.

Comments?

Hey Darcy,thanks for your reply. I don't think its a problem to play 40% of your games in another divison,look at the C.F.L.there is two 4 team divisions and they play 10 games in their div.and 8 games in the other.Also if you make a 8 team div.and it's a balanced schedule thats 14 weeks of play we will be going well into April before playoffs.I think the - 4 - 4 - 6 would work better,also there are more chances for teams to win something.I really don't think anyone will have a problem with 4 crossover games in the A & B divisions. -----Greg G.

DARCY I KINDA LIKE GREGS IDEA NOT NECCESSARILY THE BEST BUT THE IDEA OF 10 WEEKS THEN PLAYOFFS IS ABOUT RIGHT.

The executive is considering NOT having the SA tournament this year because of a potential problem with the venue.

Instead, we are considering doing one of the following:

1 - Paying an entry fee for one player for each team into the Blizzard Dart Tournament. This will not only help improve darts in Regina by increasing the attendance for that particular tournament, but will give people who normally wouldn't go into a sanctioned event an opportunity to go.

2 - Just keeping the money that we would've spent on the SA Tourney or Blizzard (approx. $300) and either building it up or handing out shirts to the leagues' champs which are going to be more costly than trophies.

Any comments? Or further suggestions?

Also, here is a copy of an e-mail that went out to all the captains (minus Legion2(no internet)) today.

Hey all,

Please advise your team of the following:

1 - The website has not been updated in quite some time. As those of you who have been around awhile know, in the past 3 years that I've ran the site, I've kept it updated very well. This year (or more accurately, recently) the site has not been updated much. The reason for this is simply that I've been sick for over 4 weeks. Although I am not 100%, I am feeling much better and have every intention of keeping the website updated as quickly as I have in the past. Please accept my sincerest apologies for the delays.

2 - On the website, on the message board, I have outlined what the executive is considering in regards to the SA tournament. Please advise your players to leave whatever feedback they can.

3 - There is still an unresolved discussion as to how the league should be run when we are split into divisions in the new year. If anyone has any comments, please feel free to leave them on the message board. There have been a couple of suggestions and it would be nice to have more than just 2 people's thoughts on the matter.

4 - There have been a few things that have fallen by the wayside this season with my illness and all. Within the next few weeks, I'll be attempting to figure out all the financial stuff and any teams that have not paid their league fees or any bars that have not paid their sponsorship fee, may not be able to play upon our return in January. If you have not paid your fees or if your home location has not paid their fee, please contact them and make arrangements to have the fees paid.

Please share this info with your team and I will also be putting a copy of this e-mail up on the site on the message board.

Many thanks.

Darcman

hello darcy i think we should just keep things the way we have always did it instead of changing things around thats just my view on things thanks

 Darcy I personally don't care much for trophies. If the league has the money for shirts it might be a better idea. Get well 'eh'..........

Darcy, I understand and appreciate that you have been ill the last while, but haven't we been waiting a little long for updates?? Considering that there is one week left on the schedule, and nobody knows their team's standing. Again, being sick is one thing, but you were seen playing darts in a bar two weeks ago, so...take it from there.

Hey Carlo,

Yours and everyone's comments are always appreciated for sure. I do however take some exception to what you are insinuating in your comment about seeing me out playing darts a couple of weeks ago. Yes, I was playing darts a couple of Wednesdays ago as that is a commitment that I couldn't get out of that particular week as there is not really a spare list for soft tip as there is in steel tip. Luckily I have felt well enough to go to soft tip darts this season, but I have not felt well enough to fulfill that on several other levels. One of which of course is the steel tip website updates, but I'll touch on that later.

Since I've been sick (now going onto week 5) I've missed all but one football game (which is why I stopped playing steel tip darts this season to begin with, so that I could play football), I've missed every game but one and had to remove myself as a regular to a spare player on the walleyball team that I play for, and have missed a lot of the volleyball season the past few weeks. Just because you saw me at one thing because I was not interested or couldn't find a spare, please do not try to make it look like I'm just totally ditching the steel tip stuff that I have always run so well in the past.

It hasn't just been that I've been sick either, life has gotten in the way somewhat of updating the site. Perfect example is tomorrow morning. I have my kids this week, so I will be up early and will be able to start working on the site after my kids get on the bus to school at 8:30. Unfortunately, I'm booked into the hospital at 9:15 for the day. Although that's not related to the present flu like illness that I've been suffering from the past few weeks, but it is related to the illness that I've been dealing with the past 10 years. So, as you can see, although sometimes I feel better enough and actually have a few hours to dedicate to getting the site updated, something else has happened to prevent me from getting the stuff done. It just seems that if I have time, I'm sick, if I'm not sick, then something else is going on. For that I have apologized directly to the captains of the league and in message 39, I thought I had explained my situation and conveyed my apologies good enough and outlined what I was planning on doing for the very near future as far as getting the website updated as soon as possible. I still stand by that, and as soon as I get a chance, I'll get it done.

However, in the meantime Carlo, if you think that I'm just 'doggin it' or whatever, then please feel free to contact me and lend a hand in getting the stuff updated if you feel that I'm not pulling my weight. Again, I'm not disputing that it really sucks that the site hasn't been updated recently, because it really does suck. But just because I was at soft tip darts doesn't mean anything close to what you were implying in your posting.

I have apologized for the lack of updating and I do feel bad for it. I've always consistently kept the stats and website updated the past 3 years. It is simply unfortunate that a certain series of event have prevented me from getting the job done recently. I'm not sure what more I can say?

Aside from all that, I certainly appreciate the e-mails of support and get well soon's that I've received since I've been sick. It looks like I'm almost back to normal now and the site should be updated this week.

Darcy, I don't insinuate. Your messages have told us that you are too sick to update the stats. Now you are telling me that you are too busy. Asking me to assist you isn't the point. This is a task that you have accepted to do. Also, I'm not arguing about the fact that you maintained the site well previously. I personally think you have done a great job with it, probably better that anyone could or would do. My point is that you have accepted to do this task and it has been more tha 3 weeks since it has been updated. Telling me how busy you are doesn't change that.

You know Carlo, you and I go way back (Buffalo Buck Casino! Wow, that's a long time huh?), and I've never had any problems with you and have always liked you, so having said that, I'm not going to sit here and get into a back and forth pissing match with you. It's not worth either of our time.

I will say however, that I never said that I was just simply 'too busy' to do that site. I did say that it wasn't JUST that I was sick, but on the days that I was able to work on things like the RSTPDL site, there were other things going on that prevented me from doing the stuff. I clearly stated (or so I thought) that it was a combination of being very sick and having other stuff come up (like the example I used with the hospital today). I never said that I was just too busy to tend to the site. If I wouldn't have gotten sick the site would be just as it has been for the last 3 years, perfectly updated, it's as simple as that.

Let's just drop this before one of us goes too far and there are hard feelings afterwards. As I've said before, it really is unfortunate that the site hasn't been updated as it normally is, and I do feel terrible about that and that's why I had appologized to all the captains on the 28th and had asked them to pass that info onto all the other players. Everything will be updated by the end of the week at the latest.

I don't have any hard feelings toward you at all nor am I trying to offend you. I am simply making an observation. What I have stated is not a personal attack on you. I like you. I just happen to be the one who is pointing out the obvious about the league stats, I guess everyone else is waiting patiently. What I don't understand is why you feel you are having a problem with me, or are getting into a pissing contest. I point out an obvious fact, and I'm the bad guy???

Edited by author 12-05-2006 09:23 AM
I thought we were done with all this but I guess not.

"I don't have any hard feelings toward you at all nor am I trying to offend you. I am simply making an observation. What I have stated is not a personal attack on you."

Sure doesn't seem like that Carlo, and I'm not the only one who thinks that.

"I just happen to be the one who is pointing out the obvious about the league stats, I guess everyone else is waiting patiently."

So, why do you feel the need to re-state the obvious? Days ago I had already discussed this with the captains for them to pass onto their teams and posted it for all to see, why complain about something that had already been dealt with?

"What I don't understand is why you feel you are having a problem with me, or are getting into a pissing contest."

What I don't understand is where you've read that I am having a problem with you? I'd love for you to show me where I wrote that I am having a problem with you. All I said is that I've never had any problems with you in all the years I've known you and that if we keep this up there probably would be some hard feelings as I'm sure that one of us would say something we either shouldn't have or might/would regret.

"I point out an obvious fact, and I'm the bad guy???"

It was that the point didn't need to be pointed out as it had already been dealt with and it was the way you're pointing it out that doesn't shed a kind light on you.

So, now can we stop this? I have a website to update! LOL

WOW! Alot of chat going around in circles. I guess I'll just leave it at that. I guess I'm the only one intersted in league stats.

Trust me Carlo, you are definitely NOT the only one that cares about stats!

Years ago when I played I hated the fact that you never knew what was happening and who was doing what. You'd pretty much play the whole season not knowing what was going on. I hated that and that's why I had apologized to the league about my lack of updating the site previously. So I do understand where you were coming from. I gotta admit, I was kinda put out when I volunteered years ago to do what I'm doing now and was turned down because "...it's way too hard to get all the score sheets in.".

Furthermore, there are quite a few people who question my stats-keeping and really keep me on my toes with why this is like this or that. I truly appreciate their input/help as believe it or not (hope you're all sitting down for this one), I have been known to make a mistake or two along the way! I know, I know, it's hard to believe, but I do make mistakes on the stats. But luckily, there are a handful of players out there that help keep things accurate. Thank you to those people.

So, Carlo, there are more than just you and I who are concerned about stats. The site is now updated (unless I've made a mistake here or there) and I want to thank you Carlo for showing some passion about the league and the site. You're right, it should've never taken me that long to get the site updated, but I really was sick and that's the reason why the site didn't get updated. I'd rather have someone say something 'the wrong way' or 'politically incorrectly', than to have no one say anything at all. If more people would speak up like you did, then maybe more things could get accomplished towards the growth of this league.

I sent out an e-mail to all the captains today. A couple of questions that I'd love to hear what you all have to say about are:

- The league setup for the 2nd session. I have 2 ways that I can go, which would you rather see?

A) Run a 6 team A division and a 8 team B division. The top 6 teams have a 30ish game lead on the bottom 8, so skill level wise, all teams in each division would be fairly even. There would be no byes and no crossover matches.

B) Run 2 7-team divisions. Whoever had the bye in the A division would play whoever had the bye in the B division. It eliminates bye weeks and allows the weaker teams to play better teams which apparently a lot of you would like to see as you all agree that's how weaker teams are to get better, by playing better teams.

It doesn't matter to me either way how you all want it done.


One other thing I'd like your opinion on is:

I can't seem to remember if we ever FINALLY decided if spares were to be allowed to play in the playoffs. I think that if we didn't decide that they should be allowed to play, but only if they've played at least 1/4 of the season. So in other words, anyone who is a spare would have to have played at least 3 weeks of session 2 to be eligble to play through the playoffs.

Again, I'd love to hear what you all have to say. Many thanks and Merry Christmas.

Darcman

Hey Darc
I would like to see the "C" division trophy dusted off. What would be wrong with 6 teams in the "A" division, 4 teams in the "B" division and 4 teams inthe "C" division? Also I think that at the beginning of the season the teams set their players. Unless a team permanently losses a player during the season and picks up "a spare" on a permanent basis I think spares should not be allowed to play in the play-offs.

Thats my 2 cents, now give me my change!

Merry Christmas

 Darcy, Mikes idea is O.K. with me.

Through most of the e-mails that I've received, the majority vote is to have 2 divisions of 7 teams with the bye teams playing cross-over matches.

I would LOVE to have the C division alive again, but with only 4 teams in each division, I'm not sure that it would be a very feasible idea. However, I'm not saying NO to that just yet. I will do up the schedules with various divisions/options (2 divisions of 6 & 8, & 7 & 7, 3 divisions of 6 & 4 & 4) and just see how it works out. Because the top 6 teams are so much ahead of the bottom 8, it just might work.

If I do go ahead with the 2 divisions of 7 teams, I guarantee that (if I am President again next season) that I will do whatever I can to expand the league once more to get more teams and thus enabling our league to better afford a 3rd division.

The biggest problem facing us right now is the amount of venues. We either need to get more locations willing to offer up space for steel tip, or to have present locations able to have the space for 4 boards rather than 2.

I approached Bushwakkers on the off season and they (more specifically Kelly Monette) flatly refused. I also approached the Gas Light Saloon, and they just couldn't renovate to the point that they could get 2 boards up (they presently only have room for 1, and that's not something I want to pursue). The good news is that the owner of Glencairn Western Pizza (which is in the middle of renovations) has welcomed the idea of trying to place a steel tip section in their bar which would accomodate 2 new teams.

If anyone has any ideas of where we could put more teams, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE forward that information to me and I will pursue it promptly. As I have shown these past few years, I am very committed to making this league as popular and successful as it has been in the past, and again, if I am voted in as President again next season, I will continue that path. That is definitely NOT a campaign to ensure my Presidency again next season (if anyone else wants to take over, please feel free to put your name in), but it is more of a promise that I will continue to try and make this league flourish as there seems to be an increase in interest in our league.

I hope that all made sense. Please check back to this board for further information as it becomes available.

Thanks.

RSTPDL President,
Darcman

personally i like the three division set-up. there are a couple of weaker teams in the league that may get discouraged and quit if they constantly get beat by stronger teams .

Darcy, I like the idea of 6 and 8 teams, because as you said, there is quite a gap after the top six. As far as some of the lesser teams having an opportunity to play the better teams in a crossover format, I think they had that chance in the first half of the season. Having the top six only play each other makes it very competitive.
It would be nice to hear from some of the lower placed teams and find out their thoughts.

December 27 - Updated the final stats of the first session to reflect the final 2 scoresheets that were previously missing. All the stats are now final and official and complete.

In the next couple of days, I will start working on three schedules.

1 - Will be 3 divisions, A with 6 teams, B with 4, and C with 4. I will work out some sort of cross over format that seems fair.

2 - Will be 2 divisions, A with 6 and B with 8

3 - Will be 2 divisions A with 7, and B with 7, teams with the bye in one division will play the team with the bye in the other division.

I'll start working on them and whichever one works out the best will be the winner.

If anyone has any questions or comments, please feel free to contact me.

I hope everyone had a good holiday! We will probably return to darts on either Jan. 9 or 16th.

Keep checking the site for updates. Thanks.

Just FYI,

I've been working on schedules and the one that seems to work the best (so far anyway) is the 2 divisions of 7 teams each. It gives each team the most variety of opponents, still allows for 2 cross over weeks, and allows each team to play 12 weeks of a regular season (providing we come back on Jan. 9). The 3 division thing only allowed for 9 games and the A division did not have any crossover games.

So it looks like we'll come back on Jan. 9, play for 12 weeks (til Mar. 27), and then 3 weeks of playoffs starting Apr. 3 - 17th.

Just an update to the schedule.

I've worked on it for over 4 hours tonight and I've got it as good as it's going to get I think. I had to increase the second session from the original 12 weeks to 14 weeks as with 12, 2 teams would've only had 1 bye week. We will be starting this upcoming Tuesday (Jan. 9) and running until Apr. 10, with playoffs starting afterwards. I know it's a little long, but that's the fairest way to do things.

The set up will be 2 divisions of 7 teams each with the bye teams from each division playing each other in a cross over matchup.

The good news:

The schedule is finally pretty close to being finished. I just have to move some weeks around so that some teams aren't playing 4 weeks in a row either away or at home.

The bad news:

As much as I tried to have each team playing 7 home and 7 away games, it's just not going to happen! There are only 4 teams that have the perfect 7 & 7, 8 teams have 8 & 6 or 6 & 8, and there are 2 teams that have 5 & 9 and 9 & 5 set ups. The big thing to remember is that as long as the bar doesn't have an empty establishment is a big concern. I could've had more teams play 7 & 7, but some venues would've been empty on a Tuesday night at some point. The venues pay their $100 to have darts there every (or every other in the case of the Eagles Club and Serbian Club) Tuesday, and that part worked out. I really did try my best to have a 7 & 7 split with everyone, but it just won't happen with the way teams split up in divisions with their sister teams either being with them in the same division or not in the same.

I will do my best to post the schedule tomorrow on the site and will e-mail the captains and/or call them if warranted.

I will also update the spare list as per who has paid and will be adding another player to it as well.

If anyone has any questions or concerns, please feel free to either leave a posting on here or e-mail me directly. Many thanks and I hope that you all have had a great holiday season.

Darcman

Edited by author 01-18-2007 02:44 PM
Hey all,

Since you all were rockstars in getting the scoresheets in so quick, I was able to do up the stats and update the site a day early. If you see any errors, please contact me.

Also, here is a final list of all the teams/players that are going to the Blizzard free of charge!

Double Trouble - Tim Grubb
Crown & Hand 2 - Don Racette
Queen City Kids - Randy Boehm
Queen City Pub 2 - Ken Taylor (from Crown & Hand 2)
Eagles Club - Al Bradley
Serbian Club - no one
Hanson 5 - Kristin Hanson
Legion 2 - no one
You Tick Me Off - Ken Lindenbach
Team Phoenix - no one
Arrows Men - Jamie Miller & Jeff Cerato (using the money towards an doubles entry fee)
Wanna B's - Joe Neighbor
Dragons - Allen Coughlin
3 Guys & A Girl - Joe Glencross

Good luck to all of you and have fun!

In other stuff, I am going to attempt to drop off trophies next Tuesday night! No, really, I am!

I just want to take a minute to advise you about the second session schedule. I know that there were a couple of problems with the schedule, but remember, the #1 priority in making the schedule isn't to ensure that everyone has a perfect 7 away and 7 home games, but it is to ensure that our paid sponsors have darts in them as much as possible and it is especially important that the venues that sponsor 2 teams do not sit empty on a Tuesday night. I could've made the schedule a bit more 7 & 7ish, but then some places would've sat empty. I'm sure you can understand that not everyone can be accomodated when doing up the schedule. However, if there's anyone that thinks that they can do it better, out of all the stuff that I do for this league, the 2nd session schedule is the hardest and most time consuming thing, if anyone else wants to do it, I'll be more than happy to drive all the stuff over to your house! LOL

If anyone has any questions/concerns, please feel free to contact any member of the executive. Thanks.

Darcman
RSTPDL President

Hey all,

Only 8 out of the 11 people showed up at the Blizzard, but at least the 8 that went had a good time.

I updated 3 new tournaments on the site today.
Frontier Open, Pines Open, NB Triples Tournament.

Enjoy.

All the sheets were received by yesterday afternoon, good job all! The site is now updated to reflect week 3.

The B Division game between Arrows Men vs. Serbian Club sounds like it will be played this Saturday, so it should bring the stats up to date next week.

My apologies to the teams that I just dropped off the trophies for, but I got called to play darts.

If anyone has any questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks.

The site has been updated today to include Week 4 games. Also, the rescheduled game from Week 2 has been played and is also included.

I have yet to get some contact information for a couple of spares that were added this week. I will update that asap.

If anyone has any questions/concerns, please feel free to contact the appropriate member of the executive. Thanks.

Updated the site today to include Week 5 games. Great job to all captains in getting in the score sheets to me so quickly this week.

I'm still waiting for some spare information so that I can update that. I haven't forgotten.

As always, if anyone has any questions/concerns, please feel free to contact any member of the executive. Thanks.

Hey Darc
In the area under team contacts can I ask you to remove my e-mail address as I don't wish this address to be published on the web. If you want you can add my hotmail account. (mikemccusker@hotmail.com)

Thanks

I took care of it Mike. Thanks.

I got the last score sheet late Thursday afternoon, and I was in the hospital on Friday morning, so I was unable to get the stats done up until now. The site is now updated to include week 6.

I am scheduled for a minor surgery on Tuesday and will not be able to spare and depending on how long it takes me to recover from it, the stats may be late in getting up next week. I apologize in advance.

In regards to spares who play in 2 different divisions, their individual stats will be for those divisions that they play for. For example, Victor Bolianatz has played 8 games in the A division against A division teams, and now has played 4 games in the B division against B division teams. He will not get credit for all 12 games in either or both divisions. He will get his credit for 8 games played individually in the A division and 4 games played in the B division. That's why his name appears on both the A & B Division Individual Players rankings.

If anyone has any questions/concerns, please contact any member of the executive. Thanks.

Great job getting all the scoresheets in so quickly this week! The site is updated with the stats up to the half way point of the 2nd season. 2 new players sit atop the individual standings in both divisions!

There has been some talk as to whether spares should be allowed to play in playoffs this season. Before the executive makes any final decisions, we'd like to hear from you. No rules were put into place to act as guidelines for this season, but if I'm President again next season, all the rules will be in place for spares. However, as I stated, there are no rules this year, so having said that, the league's initial response would be simply that the spares did pay to play, so until there are guidlines in place, the spares can play in playoffs. But it would be nice to hear from you guys first. Feel free to post your comments below.

If anyone has any questions/concerns, please feel free to contact any member of the executive. Thanks.

I do not think spares should be allowed to play in the playoffs. Each team sets their team at the beginning of the year. Those full time players pay extra for that privilege. Spares pay less because they don't want to play full time but many do anyway. If you are going to allow spares to play in playoffs and finals then the fulltime players should be getting a $10.00 refund each. That or the spares should each be charged an extra $10.00 each for the privilege to play in the playoffs and finals.

Hey Darc
Just thought it would be a nice idea for you to add another area on the site for Team Rosters and list all teams rosters. Also what are the qualifications for players to be elegable to play in the playoffs?

Edited by author 02-28-2007 10:41 AM
Hey Mike,

First of all, very good points about the spares. We'll take it under advisement. Most of the other comments that I've received in my e-mail has stated that they think spares should be allowed to play, but pretty much everyone agrees that there should be guidelines in place for next season. If I am elected President again next season I will ensure that there are guidelines in place for spares. As far as your question for eligibility for playoffs, that's what the executive is trying to determine right now. Hence the request for feedback. We will attempt to make a decision sooner than later, but with the exception of your comments everyone has agreed that spares should be allowed to play in playoffs. I'll keep you all posted.

As far as your other comment about team rosters on the site, not only is that a good idea, but I would like to ensure that is incorporated into the whole 'playoff eligibilty' thing.

It's unfortnate that we never finished our conversation at the last league meeting regarding this situation, if the playoffs were tomorrow, it looks like everyone including spares would be allowed to play, but as I said, if I am President again next season, there will be complete guidelines and eligibility requirements for playoffs next season.

I appreciate anyone else's comments, regardless of whether you disagree with anything stated or not.

Thanks.

The site is now updated to include week 8's stats.

In regards to spares playing in the playoffs, it's unfortunate that there hasn't been more discussion on the message board. I have received a handful of e-mails on the subject but overall, there's only been one person against allowing spares to play in playoffs. Everyone else is in agreement that spares should be allowed to play this season but that there should be clear guidelines in place for the future. As I've mentioned before, if I am President again next season, I will ensure those guidelines are in place before the season starts. Until then, the executive will make a final decision and will advise the league accordingly.

One comment to Mike. Spares pay only $20 compared to the $30 that the full time players do simply for that reason, they are only part time players. The extra $10 that the regular players pay isn't so that they can play in playoffs, it's so that they can play full time with the same team throughout the course of the regular season. If/when a spare joins a team to play full time with them, that spare does pay the extra $10 to become an exclusive member of that team (in most cases). So, because of all that, there will not be a rebate for the full time players for playoffs, sorry, but very nice try Mike.

Once again, a big thank you to all the captains for doing an outstanding job of getting the scoresheets in to me so quickly again this week.

From asking different groups of people (both dart and non-dart related) I've managed to narrow the logo down to 2 different ones. I will attempt to get something together for you all to look at and hopefully send back your input so that we can incorporate it into our official league logo. Who knows, you might even see it on a 'League Champion' shirt instead of a trophy?

As always, if anyone has any questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact any member of the executive.

The site is updated with the week 9 stats.

I will be doing something in regards to a new league logo. I went and found a bunch on my own and put them with the handful that were submitted to me and I have been showing them to different types of people (darters, non-darters, etc.) and will be narrowing it down to 2 logos and will have you guys decide.

Other than that, there's nothing else to report, if there are any questions/concerns, please feel free to contact me or any member of the executive. Thanks.

 Hi Darcy,I just wanted to know if there will be better prizes this season with the money we saved from the cancelled S.A. tourny ? I don't think anyone has any use for trophies. I would suggest nice team dart shirts for the winning teams, or individuals example(high out winer) with what they won on the arm,and possibly there first name on the front. What do you think ? I also invite comments on this from all other players.

to me it doesn't matter if i had a trophy or a shirt. shirts are okay but they wear out and get chucked. trophies are like christmas cake ,they last for ever. just don't do what some of my bowling leagues have done and go to a cash league. it just turns a somewhat fun night into a lot of bitching over petty things.

Edited by author 03-12-2007 08:24 PM
I'm assuming you got that figured out Randy?

Wow, more action on here in one day than in awhile.

Anyway, I would like to see shirts handed out for prizes for the Division winners. I hadn't planned on handing out shirts for best win percentage or anything. I would've done that had we been able to select a logo sooner. However, if you all can sway my opinion, that will do wonders.

Speaking of logos, I put the two best logos from all the people that I asked who saw all the different logos that I made/found. Please leave a message on here to indicate which one you'd rather see on a shirt or any other stuff we get done up. Please keep in mind, that if we had to go small, LOGO 1 would be a bit difficult to do up because of all the detail(plus it's like 5 colors which would make it more expensive to do). LOGO 2, while not as detailed/nice, would be much easier to make in any size and cheaper as it's only a couple of colors. Please put which one you like on here, otherwise I'll just have to flip a coin. Actually I'd probably go with LOGO2 simply based on cost.

Also, Kevin, as long as I'm the President, this will not become a cash league. There are too many grey areas with the league for it to become a cash league at this time.

Keep in mind, the executive has yet to meet to finalize all these things.

Also keep in mind, that we didn't save a lot of money from not running the SA tourney, we did send a bunch of players to the Blizzard tournament which almost cost as much. We should have some extra money, but not near enough to outfit the whole league with new shirts, but I am working on it.

I have to discuss it with Tina but I believe that there are also a couple
of venues and possibly a couple of spares that have yet to pay some league fees.

Please keep the comments coming and encourage others to use this board as well. Thanks folks.

My vote is for the misquito

i think the actual dart board logo looks the best logo 1

DART BOARD

LOGO #1 Would be best siuted for the league

i vote for the dart board

I vote for the dartboard logo 1.

#1 the Dart board

My vote is for the dart board

dartboard

My vote is for Logo 1. The other one looks kinda like a worm.

Dartboard

   #1 dartboard.

i think a dart shirt would be nice as long as its not a t shirt a nice normal shirt t shirts are stupid

i dont think denim is the way to go either

a shirt with a front pocket would be good

A good quality dart shirt with pocket.

a dart shirt with a pocket is the way to go

dart shirt

I think a dart shirt for winning teams and highs is a great idea.

Great idea with the good quality dart shirt, with a pocket.

Does it really take almost a week to put the the games played up???

Actually Allan, not usually. As you will note by the majority of the stats, I have had the stats up by Thursday morning on most weeks.

The problem is that sometimes I do have a life outside of doing dart stats and that does tend to get in the way from time to time. Take this week for example. On Friday I was in the hospital (long story, but I'm disabled with a blood disorder and require treatments in the hospital every couple of weeks, after it's done I'm usually pretty sick for the rest of the day). Also, I didn't have all the scoresheets by Thursday morning like I usually do, I didn't actually get the last sheet until Friday afternoon, which if you just read the previous sentence, since I had just got home from the hospital, I wouldn't/didn't feel up to doing the stats.

To further complicate matters, I was totally busy this weekend with my volleyball team's city championships, soft tip dart makeup games, my children's baseball assessments, my daughter's pitching camp and various things that I had to get done this weekend which I'm sure that you don't want/need the details about.

So, having said all that, had this weekend not been such a crazy weekend for me, the stats would've been up already, but when I don't get all the sheets until Friday coupled with the busy weeekend, then ya, in this particular case, it does take a few days to get the stats up. And to further answer your question, I still have 2 days left to get the stats up within the week that you mention. I've only had all the scoresheets for just over 48 hours. Just because the games are played on Tuesday night doesn't mean that all the scoresheets just automatically appear on my fax machine within minutes of all the matches ending. Normally I get all the scoresheets by Thursday morning which is when I do up the site, this week was not a usual week. Please accept my apologies, but running this site does get put behind my children and my hospital visits.

In the future, if you'd like to ensure that the stats are done up the second the last sheets are received, please feel free to enquire on how you can become the league statistician.

Well maybe you should take the superman outfit off then, and put on maybe an Austin Powers outfit??

The site is now updated. I also added a poll, just thought I'd try making one. Please feel free to leave any feedback. Thanks.

why not have 7th miss out. how many sports leagues, pro or amature qualify all their teams for playoffs ? it will make sandbaggers actually try instead of just floating.it will also make for some intresting match ups coming down the stretch fighting for the last spot.

  Hi Darcy,I think most players are happy with the way the stats are updated.I don't think we should be changing the playoff structure near the end of the season.If we were going to change it,we probably should have done so right after the seeding round.

Hi Darcy,I think you are doing a grest job on stats.You can now add my email address to the executive list wheezie@accesscomm.ca thanks,see you later.

Thanks for the compliments guys, it's appreciated.

Tina, I will put your e-mail addy on the executive list when I update the site with the Week 12 stats.

In regards to the Week 12 stats, I am still missing 3 out of 7 sheets (although I believe 1 match was rescheduled), hence the reason why it's Friday morning and there are still no stats. Once I receive those sheets I will get the stats updated, however, it may not be during the weekend as I spend very little time on the computer on the weekends. Thanks for your patience.

Week 12 stats are up as well as a few other things that I fooled around with this morning. Tina, your e-mail address is now in the executive section.

If anyone has any questions, please contact any member of the executive. Thanks.

i think most people would like some type of award for 180's or winning percentage. but for winning percentage there should be a minimum amount of games played to qualify . these things should have been brought up at our annual meeting before the start of the season .

For winning percentage, you do have to have a certain amount of the season played. You need to have played in at least 75% of the season in order to be eligible for that award.

I'm not making any major decisions based on these polls, I just want the information so that the executive can make decisions that are better suited for what the league wants. For example, it sounds like the entire league would rather be given a decent dart shirt for winning their division championship rather than a trophy. So, when it comes to the end of the year, we'll probably lean that way when making our decisions.

Also Kevin, I totally agree with you that these things should've been brought up at our annual meeting at the start of the season, or at least at the end of the year meeting. However, some of this stuff is an after thought, but you'll remember to bring this stuff up at the meeting so that I don't forget right? LOL

Keep the comments coming. Over 75 people voted in the past 4 1/2 hours on the new poll, sweet!

The website has finally been updated for week 13!

I didn't get a couple of scoresheets until later than usual and I was busy.

One thing I did want to point out is that in the B Division I have listed that Queen City Pub 2 vs. Wanna B's ended in a 15 - 15 tie. This is accurate and is not a typo. It turned out that both teams only had 3 players present for the games. So each team only played 15 301 games instead of 16 which meant that they only played 30 instead of 31 games. As luck would have it, they ended up tied.

If anyone has any comments or questions, feel free to fire away. Thanks again and good luck to all teams going into the last week. Really good races for that final playoff spot in both divisions!

what would the point be of playing darts in a league with no awards. then paying a fee would be pointless. we may as well be playing in our basements for free. if we had no rewards what would we be spending our money on ?

 i dont understand how one poll could be 63% in favor of keeping awards and then this new poll is exactly the reverse but asking almost the same thing. i think 180 pins would be good if it does'nt kill the prize fund, and as you mentioned it doesnt seem to be too much.

it only costs a few bucks to engrave a couple of plates for the two trophies.where is the rest of the cash going to go ? if sask sport sees that we have a big bank balance after the season you may kiss any chance at future funding away. am i not right ?

Hey Darcman, after each web poll I have noticed that the votes have not been reset. So the results may be inaccurate.Just a heads up.

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Edited by author 04-11-2007 02:27 AM
hey darcy all this talk about awards for 180's and best winning percentage, are you sure the constitution of the league has a rule about whether its most wins or winning percentage.

Mitch - Thanks tons for the heads up. I never noticed but always wondered how the numbers could be what they were. I'll fix that up the next time I put a poll up.

Randy - For the past 3 seasons (as long as I've been involved in running the league) we've always given out the award to the person with the highest win percentage who has played at least 3/4 of the season. The reason for that was because we didn't want to penalize someone who was a particularly good darter just because they may have missed a week or two but yet had almost as many wins as someone who played every week. If you click on the 'Past Champs/Records' link, you'll see where this came into play a couple of times already in the past.

Kevin - As far as us having a big bank account and losing funding, I don't have a clue how much that rings true. Pat is the one who would know that. Also, if the league gives out dart shirts for the champs, that is much more expensive than giving out a trophy, so I wouldn't worry too much about a huge bank account.

As far as these polls go, they are meant for 2 reasons: 1 - To see if I knew how to do them. 2 - Just to gather some info for the upcoming seasons.

i may have forgotten about the dart shirts but with all of the people in the league somebody must know of someone in the shirt business and possibly get a price on these. i wouldn't want a trophy but i think the people with the 180's would still like a pin.

If those of you who were at the Santa's Anonymous shoot a couple of seasons ago remember, Embroidme was a big donor of prizes. I'm sure they'll help us out again in the shirt/embroidery department.

The Captains did an outstanding job in getting the scoresheets to me this week! I got them all in less than 18 hours of the matches finishing up! Good job!

Because of that, the site is already updated to include the final week of the regular season. I have also updated the schedules to let you know who plays where etc. for the playoffs.

There are two glitches.

1 - Queen City Pub 2 of the B division still has a rescheduled game to play. If they score 9 wins or more, they will be the ones to advance into the playoffs in the 6th seeded spot, if they score 8 or less, they will miss the playoffs. That game is to be played on Thursday night April 12. Until I get that scoresheet put into the site, all stats etc. are unofficial. The awards etc for the B division have been noted, but are not official pending the outcome of the remaining game (I don't believe that anyone can change anything, as you need 75% of the season played for most wins/highest percentage and Don Racette would fall 2 games short of that mark, but to keep things proper, all awards and stats for the B division are unofficial for now).

2 - Regardless of the outcome in tomorrow night's rescheduled match, Crown & Hand 2 will be hosting a playoff game. Unfortunately, so is the Crown & Hand team in the A division (Double Trouble). I give the advantage to the A division team and so the first round B Division playoff game between Wanna B's and Crown & Hand 2 will actually be played at Gaebel's, not Crown & Hand. This is tentative based on a response from the team, if this is not acceptable to the team I will consider moving this playoff matchup to a neutral site (Trifon's Pizza, Austrian Club or Serbian Club). A final decision on this will be made on April 13th and will probably be announced on this message board.

That's about it for now, what a great finish! A rescheduled game determines who advances in the B division and in the A division a tie for the top spot with the 3rd place team only 4 games back! Great job and good luck to all in the playoffs.

Hey Darcy, just wanted to thank you for your outstanding work on the site this year, us IT guys know how much work it is! Thanks to all the other teams for all the fun and good luck to all in the playoffs! See you all next year!

Edited by author 04-12-2007 10:29 AM
Thanks Spero, kudos are always appreciated. Mighty glad to see Team Phoenix back in the dart community as well, looking forward to scheduling your team in for next season as well.

One more thing about the rescheduled game for tonight, the location of play for the 1st rd game may change depending upon how well Crown & Hand 2 do against Queen City Pub 2 tonight. If they win enough games (I believe 21 or more), then several different scenarios would play out and the location of the 1st round B division game would change. I'll keep you all posted on here tomorrow. Thanks.

The final stats including the makeup game are now up. Crown & Hand 2 won enough games to overtake the 3rd place spot so the playoff matchups in the B Division have changed.

Queen City Pub 2 (6th place) will play Crown & Hand 2 (3rd place)

Both sister teams are already hosting A division games at both home bars, so this game will be played at a neutral site. I will e-mail both team captains and give them their choice of a location. Once it is agreed on by both teams, I will announce where this game will be played.

Wanna B's (5th place) will now play Legion 2 (4th place) at the Legion.

That's about it for now, if anyone has any questions/concerns, please contact me or any member of the executive. Thanks.

The next round of playoff matchups are now up. I am missing the actual scoresheet from the Queen City Pub 2 vs. Crown & Hand 2 game, but I know that C&H2 won and I know that they did try and fax it. Just a glitch that I have to work out for next season. The only reason why I need the scoresheet is just to add in the high scores/outs.

Good luck to all remaining in the playoffs.

The championship matchups for both divisions are up. Big upsets in the A division with both the #1 & #2 teams getting knocked out last week!

The scores/outs page is now up to date to include playoff week#1's missing sheet. There is now a tie for the high out of the year!

Best of luck to all remaining teams.

Hey Darcy, guess what we won the "b" Div. I thought I would send you the sizes for our button up dart shirts with a pocket. 3 XL and 2 XXXL.If XXXL is not available.then 2 XXL. Thank You ! --- Greg. See you at the awards meeting.......

congrats to 3 guys and a girl for winning the b side.

I got the A side scoresheet overnight last night, so congratulations go out to:

Queen City Kids: A Division Champions

3 Guys & A Girl: B Division Champions

I will update the site by tomorrow. I will also contact the team captains soon as far as selecting the type of shirts you want and sizes etc. Once I have the shirts and the other trophies, I will set up a date for the awards night/elections. Thanks to all for another great year!

darcy thanks for a great season good job on the website . congrats to 3 guys and a girl for winning the b side see you all at the windup

 Way to go! Queen city Kids.

I have updated the site with the final season stats. I also updated the 'Past Champs/Records' link with a couple of extra things in there. The only thing that I didn't update was the web poll. I couldn't think of a decent question, if any of you have any suggestions, please either post it on here or e-mail me the_darcman@hotmail.com

Thanks again to all for the great season, I will advise as to when the awards are ready and the awards/election night is.

Thanks Darcy for a great job and a great season. This was my first season (a rookie at 61) and I enjoyed it, almost universal good sportsmanship. Congrats to the winners.

Ken C@H2

Great job darcy, thanks for all your hard work and effort you put in this year, When will the windup be or is there one? give me a call, me and you have some business to work out yet.

Just a note to let anyone in the leauge know that WP Sports Lounge (Western Pizza Glencairn) has there boards 90% set up for the up and comming season. Anyone interested in sponsorship can contact Jeff at 761 0201.

Queen City Kids are looking for 1 player this year. If interested please contact Mike at 525-3440.

when does the season start and where do I get a schedule for our team?
Thanks

Hey Jeff,

The season will start on Tuesday Oct. 2. As far as a schedule is concerned, perhaps if you replied to your e-mails (I sent you one a couple of days ago), you'd know exactly what the delay in getting the schedules out was.

Just to bring everyone up to speed however, I can't do the schedules until the teams are finalized. I can't finalize the teams until I know for sure that one potential venue is willing to put boards up for this season. I talked to the owner of that venue last night and he will make a decision today (Monday, 24th). What that owner does has an impact on the schedule as 2 teams would then have to find alternate home locations, once again holding up the schedule process.

Also, I have at least 2 teams that are looking for 1 player each. If anyone knows of anyone at all who even might be remotely interested in playing, please send them our way.

As soon as the venue situation is worked out, I will start working on the schedules. I can't start working on them ahead of time simply because there are more than 1 team out of most venues and that creates more scheduling conflicts than you could possibly imagine. Let alone setting up a schedule and then having to move teams around.

At this point, there's not a thing I can do until that one owner gets back to me today.

I will post the schedule on here and will advise you all when it's ready. I will do what I can to ensure that it's up by the end of the week. Thanks for your understanding in this matter.

RSTPDL President
Darcman

Hey darcy I have a player interested in playing. He hasn't played for years but is a good shot. His name is Ron his number is 545 8841, he left it with me in case a team needed a player

Awesome, thanks. I'll call him tonight.

Hi Darc

  Im a new player (Paul huber 545-3146)with Murray Whiladal's new team, we have a 4th player, his name is Eric Drake 205-0464,so if you would please add him to our team list,thank-you,see you soon!

wow, 16 teams this year. the league is finally growing. i know it is early but maybe we can finally get the "C" division up and running again. good luck to all this year.

A few things:

1 - I have finished the schedule and the rest of the executive is looking it over and checking it for errors. I anticipate that it will be good to go and I will put it on the site early Friday afternoon.

2 - Despite the additional teams and venues that have been brought into the league, we will not be doing 3 divisions next year. I totally planned on it, however, we lost 4 teams in total from last year (Queen City Pub 2 at the last minute, and unexpectedly lost both teams out of the Legion as well as having no teams out of the Crown & Hand this year) and that will prevent 3 divisions from happening. I could go with 3 divisions of 5, 5 and 6, but I don't even want to think of the scheduling that goes along with that! If anyone wants to do the schedule for that scenario, please feel free to step up! Otherwise, when we come back in the new year, we'll go with two 8 team divisions and just have the top 6 make the playoffs (or perhaps everyone????)

3 - I am still missing a bit of contact info on the team section, if anyone can help fill in some of that, please feel free to forward it to the executive.

4 - Please do not contact Ron on the spare list. He called and said that he cannot spare this year due to his new work schedule. I just have not had a chance to update the site and remove his name yet. I will do that when I upload the schedule to the site.

Thanks for all your support, and good luck to all this season!

are we still looking for a start time of 7pm for weekly games and the current score sheet will not print on one sheet for me is there something that can be done not sure what format /program was used to create it

Hey There Angel,

1 - The start time for Tuesday night darts is 7:30pm.

2 - You must have a setting that's out of whack or something with the scoresheet, I double checked it and it's only one page. Maybe check your margins or something? That's the same file we've used for a couple of years now and no one else has had that problem. If you want to e-mail me, I can reply and put it as an attachment. Maybe that might help? If not, send me a fax# that I can fax it to and then you can make copies of it.

3 - The program used is Microsoft Word

Also, I wanted to let you all know that I'm going to be working on a new electronic version of the scoresheet so that all you have to do is fill in a few things and then e-mail it to me instead of faxing it in. Whichever is easier for you. (Stole that idea from Midwest Darts!)

If anyone else has any questions, please either e-mail the executive or leave a message on here. Thanks.

Hey all, I just wanted to let you know that I'm just waiting for one scoresheet to come in and I'll do the stats up. The e-mail scoresheet thing seems to have worked very well. However, I will be distributing a new one to you all that adds up the night's total score for you as a couple of you got the final totals wrong.

Due to some miscommunication, there was one game that didn't get played and will have to be rescheduled asap.

I will adjust the captain's e-mail list and will advise when the stats are up. Thanks for your patience.

With the exception of one late scoresheet and one game that didn't get played, the first week seems to have gone off without a hitch. Hopefully that continues.

Also, due to the fact that I got my dates wrong, I will be shortening the schedule by 1 week (in other words, removing week 11) as week 11 was supposed to be the SA Tourney, not the week after. Sorry for the confusion.

If anyone has any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me or any other member of the executive. Thanks.

Hey again. I never did get that last scoresheet that I was waiting for, so I did up the stats without it.

Stats are updated, as well, I've uploaded a file to the site that is a newer version of the e-mail (Excel) scoresheet. This new version will add up the final night's total for you based on the information that you put for 301, 501 & 701 results.

There may be some incorrect spelling of some names, but I'm just going off of what I can read off the scoresheet or what the captain types into the e-mail sheet. If there is an error, just leave me an e-mail ( the_darcman@hotmail.com ) and I'll fix it up the next week.

I think that's it for now, if anyone has any questions/concerns, please contact the executive. Thanks.

Darcy , we don't like the new score sheets ,we are going to use last seasons sheets. I would think there are other teams that agree.

Hello All,
Just a reminder to everyone that the Sask Open is on for October 13th & 14th in Moose Jaw. See poster on the website for details.

Hey Greg, I think there might be a bit of confusion, hopefully I can clear it up.

These new sheets are called e-mail scoresheets for a reason, they are to be used ONLY to e-mail me the night's results. You are not supposed to be using the new e-mail scoresheets on Tuesday nights at darts to keep track of things. You should be still using the original scoresheets that we've always used, that's never changed. Then at the end of the night/next day, you simply fill in the blanks on the e-mail scoresheet from the true scoresheet, and then e-mail it to me. That's the only purpose for the new e-mail scoresheets.

The reason for the new sheets is because some captains were concerned about having to fax in the sheets and not having them go through or having to scan the scoresheet and send a big file through the e-mail system. Plus scans were coming in with some other problems.

So to get the results into me quicker and easier, you can now use the fill in the blank e-mail scoresheet and then just attach it to your e-mail to me and go from there. This is something that the soft tip league tried (successfully) last year and have brought it in a larger scale this year. I decided that it would be easier than hoping I was home to answer the fax, or trying to figure out your scanner to then attach it to me. So far, I've heard nothing but good things about the new scoresheet, so I'm not sure what you didn't like about the new one Greg, as you are the first one who said anything about it.

If you want to talk to me directly to discuss it further e-mail me at the_darcman@hotmail.com thanks.

wondering if are shirts are ready

In regards to the dart shirts:

Here's exactly the story with these shirts:

As you know already:

In mid May I asked both 3 Guys & A Girl and Queen City Kids to submit their requests for shirts. 3GAG order was fine, but QCK's order was not as they picked a discontinued item. When an item is discontinued it means that you can only order what they still have on hand, which is usually very little. The first shirt selected did not come in the sizes that your team wanted, neither was the 2nd choice or the 3rd. Mike got fed up (understandably) and I told him that if he wanted to go elsewhere and get these shirts ordered (somewhere other than Embroidme) that was no problem and that I'd pick up the tab. Quite some time went by and when I contacted Mike he told me to just go ahead and order whatever I wanted. I selected 5 different shirts (that weren't discontinued) and QCK picked out their shirts. By the time I ordered these it was now sometime in July or August instead of it still being May. By the time the shirts got here, it was going to be a tough go of it to get them done in time for the annual meeting. It wasn't until the day of the meeting when they went to embroider them that they noticed that both sets of shirts was missing one shirt.

Ever since then, I've been waiting for 2 shirts from a company called Mitex to be delivered to Embroidme for embroidering. Despite the fact that this incident sort of makes Embroidme look bad, the owner has really gone to bat to try and get these shirts here sooner than later. Unfortunately he was unsuccessful. He has advised me that he will never deal with that particular company again, so if we decide to hand out shirts for this seaon's winners the things I've learned from this experience should hopefully make the next time run a lot smoother.

So, rather than hand out 4 out of 5 shirts and have 1 guy sitting without a shirt (as Kevin knows full well isn't fun) I decided to wait until I had all the shirts before handing them out. It's unfortunate that this scenario has played out the way it has, but it is a valuable learning experience.

The way things sit now is that I'm assuming that the 2 final shirts have arrived, but I do not have confirmation of this as of right now. The owner was out of town for most of last week and he is the only guy that I deal with there. I have sent him an e-mail last week that he will get early this week upon his return and hopefully will have some good news for us.

I don't know which shirts are missing from each team and I could try and hand out the 4 of each championship team if you'd like, but I don't think that's right.

Anyway, that's the latest chapter in this soap opera. This was supposed to be an easy job!

If anyone has any comments please feel free to contact me or leave a message on the website board. I would like to reiterate that although it looks like Embroidme dropped the ball on this one, they didn't, it's just unfortunate that the supplier doesn't have anyone other than idiots running their shipping department.

And that's what happening as of this minute with the shirts.

Hey Darc
You should update the spare list. I was calling it tonight and Devon told me he asked you to remove his name. Also while I was talking to Jamie and asked him to bring his $20 with him tonight he had informed me he had already paid last week so you should mark him as paid if that is the case. If you were not informed that he was paid that should have been marked on the scoresheet when it was sent into you.

Ya, my bad. I forgot to update the spare list. Devon is no longer a league spare and Jamie did pay his fees. Also a phone # change should've been made.

My bad, I'll fix it up when I update the site with this week's games. Sorry all.

I will be starting to collect league fees in 2 weeks. I will advise as to which locations I will be going to closer to the date.

I also handed out the championship shirts to Queen City Kids ('07 A Division Champs) and 3 Guys & A Girl ('07 B Division Champs) tonight. Hopefully all the sizes etc. worked out, but with the luck I had with this order, I'm sure that's not going to happen!

Good luck to all!

Hey all,

I am still missing 2 sheets for this week (Week 3):

Four Horsemen vs. Team Phoenix

and

Eagles Predators vs. Serbian Club 1

If whoever responsible could get the sheets into me asap, that'd be great as I may not have time to do up the stats this weekend. Thanks.

hey darcy something needs to be done about some of the pubs conditions ex dart boards in bad shape , not right distances poorly hung boards. if we are required to pay the $15 towards the NDFC i think all the pubs should meet the same standards wether it be them or the league that pays to get things up to par i have no clue but this needs to be corrected there is no way that some of these pubs are up to the NDFC standards

another question that should be adressed also is with 4 players per team if a team is short 1 or more players are they required to use a dummy score of 26 points for 1 or all of missing players or how does that work? i am asking this cuz every other league i've played in they use that rule and we had the situation arise on tuesday thankfully it only affected 1 game but we allowed the other team to shoot 3 players in rotation. ty in advance for helping solve these issues

Edited by author 10-20-2007 05:07 PM
Okay, a bunch of things to rattle off:

1 - The stats are updated for Week 3. Because of the three missing scoresheets so far this season, I've had to change the rankings to a percentage based ranking order. That is what they're supposed to be anyway, so if there are some big changes, that'd be why.

2 - There have been some concerns about the condition of some of the boards in some of the venues. From here on in, as the executive members play at the various venues, they will be checking for inferior playing conditions and will be bringing any problems up to the venue's owners.

3 - Because of some unforseen circumstances, effective week 4, the team Night Flytes will no longer be playing out of Gaebel's. They will be playing their home games from the Legion for the remainder of the season.

4 - When sending in your scoresheets, try to type in the last name of players for the newer teams. I pretty much know all the regulars, but the newer players from newer teams sometimes are not as familiar.

5 - In regards to Felix's concerns: I've already addressed the boards in point 2. In regards to the teams playing 1 player short, here's the rule that was implemented before I became President. If a team only has 3 players for the evening, they will play the 701 in a 3 player rotation and will not take the 26 point "DOE" score. In 501, one player will partner up with DOE and will take 26 points for the missing player until the total score is less than 100, then the player will take their shot at doubling out as well as DOE's turn at a double. In singles matches, the team that is short has to forfeit 4 games.

If these rules are not acceptable, I have absolutely no problems looking at these rules and amending them for next season at our next AGM.

6 - Another rule issue that was brought up this year is if a player is late and misses all or part of the 701 games, can they still play in the next games? The answer is yes. There was a rule many years ago that stated that if you weren't there by 15 minutes into the matchup you couldn't play. From what I know, that rule was gotten rid of years ago. If I'm wrong, we'll re-implement it for next season when we discuss rules at the next AGM.

I certainly appreciate the input that I've been receiving from you all. This is your league and the only way it will run the way we'd all like it to is to have your input. Please feel free to keep the comments or suggestions coming.

Thanks again and if anyone has any concerns/questions, please direct them either here or to an executive member. Thanks.

Thanks for the updated information both on the site and here darcy
keep up the good work.

Hey Darc
Just a thought here. If we currently have any League rules maybe they should be posted on this site for all players to access. If the rule is not in the league constitution then the NDFC ruling will apply. This will/should alleviate any questions regarding the rules in which we play by.

Mike, for the most part, you are correct, but as was discussed in years past, some of the NDFC rules were a bit inappropriate for the enjoyment of the league in general so they were altered a bit (ie: you can join in once you arrive no matter how late, if you are present, you MUST play etc.). So although you're right, some of the rules seemed to have taken away from the enjoyment of the league so they were altered. I do think that at the next AGM we need to discuss rules.

On a side note, do we have an electrician in the league? One of the venues needs some small work done at a great price! Please e-mail me and I'll forward the information to you. Thanks.

I also now have the other 2 missing sheets. Thanks.

i am not a licensed electrician but i can do interior wiring if that would be ok i'd be willing to look at the work that's needed to be done

thnx for the reply to my concerns darcy and i hope this keeps these problems away for the rest of season and many more to come hope e1 has a great dart season and am looking forward to meeting the rest of the league

- I have updated the spare list for use for tonight, added Victor Boliantz

- I neglected to erase the previous votes from the last poll, so the poll sits at zero votes, I'll leave it up for another week to make up for my mistake

- I will pass on the info to the venue Felix, thanks for your offering

I am unable to spare tonight or next week, just FYI. Thanks.

A Few Things:

1 - I have updated the stats to include all of Week 4. I have also fixed an error from week 1.

2 - I am missing the scoresheet of 3 Guys & A Girl vs. Arrowsmen from Week 4

3 - I have to stress the importance of treating our league venues with due care and respect. There has been an incident recently where one of our teams did some damage to one of our venues. I don't know the full story yet, but I must stress the importance to all teams to treat our venues' property with respect. Remember that our venues pay money to be included in our league, they don't need extra repair bills on top of everything else.

4 - It's become clear that I need to to touch on how the spares work:

If you are going to be short a player on dart night, you are responsible to do the following:

1 - phone the spare list in order from top to bottom to get someone to fill in for your team.

2 - If you can't find anyone from the spare list, you have 2 options 1) Play a player short or 2) Bring in a new player as a spare

If you choose option 1, then the Doe rules apply as oulined a few messages ago. /m156

If you choose option 2, then the team captain MUST do the following!

- Get all the contact information for the person playing (full name, address, phone numbers, postal code and e-mail addy), and forward that onto any member of the executive and also preferably myself so that I can add that person to the league spare list.
- Collect the $20 spare fee and make arrangements with the league executive to have the $20 dropped off.

If you fail to do the 2 above steps, you will forfeit all the games that the new spare played for you, win or lose. There have been some people using spares and not following this rule. Those fees for those players will be applied to your team fees when I come collecting.

If anyone has any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me or any member fo the executive.

5 - Some have expressed an interest on how I calculate the 'Up/Down and No Change' status in the standings. It's quite simple actually. When I do up the new week's stats, I put a number on the side indicating what rank that particular team was last week. Once I've updated all the current week's stats, I take the difference as to what rank the team is now compared to last week's ranking and put the appropriate status in the column. Doing it this way is the most accurate, but it also looks whacked out sometimes. Yes, it is possible for a team who is ranked last to stay in that position but still be listed as moving up a spot or two depending on how the other teams do.

6 - There are some informational changes that I have to make on the team contact list, but I will do that later.

Again, if anyone else has any questions/concerns please feel free to e-mail me or leave a note on here. Thanks.

- I updated the site to include all the stats from week 5 and the missing sheet from week 4

- Serbian Club #2 and GWP#1 still need to makeup their rescheduled game from week 1. It'd be great if you guys could get on that soon!

- A reminder that the Santa's Anonymous Tournament isn't far away. Part of the great success of the one a couple of years ago was the fact that just about everyone of you brought not just a toy for the SA program, but you also brought a bunch of door prizes. I would ask you all again to check at work and your family's work for anything at all that could be given away as a door prize. The success of the tourney increases tremendously if everyone brought a couple of door prizes.

- I will do my best to start going around collecting fees this upcoming Tuesday. I will e-mail the captains to advise as to where I'm going this Tuesday.

If anyone has any questions, please either forward them to an executive member, or leave a message on here. Thanks.

Edited by author 11-09-2007 10:47 AM
- I updated the site this morning to include the Week 6 stats, or the ones that I had anyway!

- I fixed an error in the amount of games played in 501 (thanks Mick!)

- I am missing 3 sheets from this week! That's pathetic! I spend hours of my own time every week doing up the stats for you guys and all I really do is recover my own costs for bandwidth etc. I don't get paid to do all the stats that I do. The least you guys could do is take the entire minute or two that it takes to get the scoresheet into me on time! I ask for the sheets to be in by Thursday at the latest. I'm not seeing how that's as big of a problem as it is. Not only does it make my job of doing the stats a whole lot harder as I have to do more when I'm missing sheets, but it's not fair to the visiting team that doesn't get their stats updated, which in turn makes for a less enjoyable league. PLEASE GET YOUR SCORESHEETS INTO ME ON TIME FROM NOW ON!!! THURSDAY AFTERNOON AT THE LATEST PLEASE!!!

- I wasn't able to go around to collect fees yet again this week, and although I'm trying my best for next week, I wouldn't be wagering a lot of money on that happening either! Once I know if I can get out there on Tuesday I'll advise the teams that I'm going to go visit. For the first night, I plan on going to the Elks Club, Austrian Club (depending on who's playing there), and probably Glencairn Western Pizza. Again, I will advise those captains (and their opponents) as to if it's this upcoming Tuesday or the one after that I go visit y'all.

My morning rant is over. I will add in the missing sheets next week. Thanks.

The Elks Club - 4915 1st Ave.N. is holding a Blind Draw Mixed Doubles tournament on Friday, Nov. 23/07 Registration is from 6:00 - 6:30 P.M. play will start at 7:00 P.M. Fee is $5.00 per person. For more information if needed call Al Brewer @ 585-3520

I am going out of town sometime Thursday morning. If you are planning to fax in a sheet, then you have to do it before then as I have to be home to answer the call.

I will not be returning until shortly before kickoff of the Grey Cup and I will hopefully be far too hungover/tired from celebrating a Rider victory to do the stats Sunday night or even possibly Monday morning. I'm just giving you all fair warning that the stats will not be updated on Friday morning like it usually is.

I was sort of hoping that I'd get most of the sheets in by now, but I've only got 3 and the missing one from a couple of weeks ago, so I'm still waiting for 5 more sheets, so there's no way I'm going to get it done by tomorrow.

Have a safe Grey Cup weekend and Go Riders!!!

Darcy,are we going to have a "C" div. this season ? The season will be too long with 8 team div's. We could go six in the "A", five in the "B" ,and 5 in the "C". B & C could have two crossover games then all teams play 10 weeks. This would be a good thing for the weaker teams giving them better chances to win something. What do you think ? What does any one else think ? -- Greg G.---

Actually Greg, the executive was discussing that very thing today. I think that the general concensus is to go with the following:

A Division - 10 teams, B Division 6 - teams

Play for 10 weeks. A Division would play each team once with one random opponent thrown in on week 10, the B Division would play everyone twice. There would be no crossover games.

Many things were taken into consideration when discussing this. The team skill levels were a major factor as well as the scheduling nightmare that I ran into last year with doing crossover games. Scheduling would be super easy if there were no sister teams, but unfortunately that is not the case and trust me, scheduling is incredibly difficult when you start throwing crossover games into the mix.

We were also thinking of starting on Jan. 8 (rather than Jan. 15), but that has yet to be determined. The Division finals would be in early April rather than mid April to allow everyone to enjoy outdoor activities sooner. The top 6 teams in A would make the playoffs and everyone in B would make the playoffs.

Also considering a Friday night Blind Draw Doubles Tourney (perhaps at the Elks?) at some point through the 2nd session.

The headache of scheduling crossover games was a major factor in not going with 3 divisions. When I became President one of my main goals was (and still is) to get the league back to a full 3 divisions. Had the Hanson team and the Queen City Pub #2 team not folded at the last minute, we would've had 3 divisions for sure.

Although nothing is written in stone as of yet, this is the direction it looks like we'll be going in the second session.

I welcome any and all comments.

On a side note, I normally do all the stats on Friday mornings. I know that the stats are a week behind with my little trip last week, but tomorrow morning (actually all day) seems to be very jam packed already, so I'm not sure that I'll be able to get to the stats tomorrow. I will do my best, but Monday morning is looking much more favorable. I just wanted to give you all a heads up to that. Thanks in advance for your patience.

Mind you, we could go the other way too.

A division consisting of the top 6 teams, all make the playoffs and the B division consisting of the bottom 10, top 6 make the playoffs.

There would be enough parity to go either way, but A with 10 and B with 6 may work out a bit better parity-wise.

What does anyone think?

how about 8 and 8. top 6 in both divisions make the playoffs. top two in each get a bye in the first round. 7th and 8th place unfortunately wont make the cut. also is the santa shoot still on. i need to know so i can try to hit up work for some door prizes

Edited by author 12-03-2007 10:13 AM
Although an 8 & 8 set up would appear to be perfect schedule-wise, it has been brought to my attention that an 8 team schedule would not be truly fair based on our time constraints of the season.

For an 8 team schedule to be fair (everyone playing each team the same number of times), we would need 14 weeks just to play the regular season, and then another 3 or 4 weeks of playoffs. That would mean that our season would start on Jan. 8 and wouldn't end until April 29 or May 6. I've already fielded concerns that our season goes too long as it is, so to have it go 4 or 5 weeks longer wouldn't be a good idea. With the idea of a 10/6 split, I can actually end the season a week or 2 earlier which is being met with a tremendous amount of positivity.

If I went with an 8 team schedule, and just cut it off at 10 weeks to fit it into our time frame, then it's not a fair schedule as each team would play everyone once, then you'd have 3 weeks of random opponents. Some weaker teams may end up getting very tough opponents for those 3 weeks and vice versa, that's totally not fair. Plus to leave 30% of a schedule to complete randomness is not only tres uncool, but also is not completely fair either.

Going with a 10/6 split (regardless of whether it's the A division or B division that has 10), is the fairest way to go. One week of randomness is not a big deal. Hopefully, next year, we have at least 18 teams so that we can just run with 3 divisions and leave it at that.

I hope that answers your question Kevin.

I will be doing up the stats this morning. I never checked, but I hope that I have all the sheets. I will advise when the stats are done. Thanks.

1 - Stats for Week 8 & 9 are done. I am unfortunately missing a sheet from Week 9
2 - For the Up/Down/No Change, it's all based on the final stats from Week 8 (which none of you actually saw), so if you look and you've moved up 3 spots from where you remember your team was and it says 'No Change', that'd be why

3 - I also updated the league question as well as added a new youth player to our league spare list. To my knowledge, the only place he cannot play in is Queen City Pub due to the age requirments and the proximity of the dart boards to the VLT's, but I am told that all the other places are a go.

4 - Don't forget that the Santa's Anonymous Tournament is just 8 days away! (sorry I didn't mention this in my other posting Kevin). To ensure a success story like the one a couple of years ago, I would hope that each player can not only bring a small unwrapped toy for their entry fee, but can also bring something (anything really) to donate as a door prize. The event starts at 7pm Dec. 11 at the Legion.

5 - Although the idea of me going around to collect league fees was a good idea overall, my schedule has not permitted me to do that. Most teams have already paid, but there are still some that haven't. I had some unexpected classes that I had to attend that screwed up my whole schedule among other things. All that will be done in a couple of weeks, so the new year should allow me to get to any locations that require my attention.

6 - I have noticed in doing the stats that there is a growing number of new names on the player sheets with no spare information on it. With the large amount of new teams, the unusually short spare list and my schedule, I have not been able to follow up properly with those teams. Let it be known that it is unacceptable to just grab whoever to play darts for your team for one night and not have to pay the $20 fee as well as submit all the contact information to the league. Failure to do both of those things in the new session will result in penalty points assessed to the team responsible. I will be able to monitor that closer next session and trust me, I will.

7 - I was thinking of perhaps holding a league sponsored tournament of some kind (blind draw doubles, singles?) sometime in February-ish on a Friday night or Saturday, perhaps at the Elks club. However, before I go any further, would there even be enough interest to do it? Please either e-mail me or leave a message on here if you'd be interested.

If anyone has any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks.

1 - Stats for the final week of the first session are up. I have all the sheets (Thank you all), but unfortunately the game from Week 1 between Serbian Club #2 and GWP#1 never got played, so I just went with percentages for standings and rankings.

2 - The Santa's Anonymous Tournament is this upcoming Tuesday Dec. 11th at the Legion (still not sure if we're upstairs or downstairs, but it's at the Legion for sure), registration is from 6:00 to 6:45, and play begins at 7pm. Entry fee is an unwrapped toy (around $10 value), and everyone is urged to bring a door prize.

3 - I updated the spare list to add a new spare, we now have 5 active spares and when we return in the new year, my schedule should be much calmer which means that I'll be available to spare also. I am also good for a last minute type of spare as every other week, I do not require much notice and I try and keep my Tuesdays open (normally).

4 - I've also posted a poster under the tournament section for the Regina Elks Club. They will be putting on several blind draw tournaments throughout the winter and all the dates are now on our site. Since they are part of the RSTPDL family, I urge you all to go out for a tournament or two in support of them. All the information is on the poster near the bottom of our home page.

5 - It looks like I will be going with an A division of 6 teams and a B division of 10 teams. I really wanted to go with 3 divisions this year, but it's just not going to work the way I want it to, so this is the direction we are going. If anyone has any questions, please do not hesitate to contact any member of the executive.

6 - There are still some teams that haven't paid their fees (that's partly my fault for not being able to go around to collect), if you can, please bring your fees to the SA Tourney this Tuesday.

7 - If anyone wants to volunteer to help me out with the schedule for the next session (I still can't find a scheduling program that takes certain things into consideration in regards to our league), please e-mail me directly, my info is on the spare list and the executive list.

I hope to see many of you at the SA Tourney this year. I have no idea what the prizes will be, but remember 2 years ago we gave away 2 really nice BBQ's? Well, rumour has it, that the gentleman that got those is trying for cars this time around. True or False? You'll have to come and enter in the tournament yourself to see!

If anyone has any questions/concerns, please feel free to contact any member of the executive. Thanks.

hey hows it going darc i think the top 8 and bottom 8 for the divisions a and b side

Hey Darcy, I was at the Saskdarts website, and they are running a petition to have darts officially recognized as a sport. This would enable dart leagues or the NDFC to get Federal funding. My thoughts are that it could improve the profile and status of our sport across the country, and provide funding for teams to attend tournaments. Would it be worth posting it on the Pub League site? Just a thought.

Hey Carlo, that is one of the things that will be added to the website in the new year. It was brought to my attention quite some time ago, but putting that info on the website was overlooked by myself. Thanks for the reminder.

Also, for everyone waiting for a schedule, I have decided to try and do a 3 division 6/5/5 schedule for the new year. I am still working on it and will be advising you all when the new schedule is up. Thanks.

The new schedule is almost complete. We will be going with 3 divisions and play will begin on Jan. 8.

I still have to tweak one more thing on the schedule then convert it to a webpage. I will do my best to get the schedule up and update the site tomorrow.

Happy New Year all!

I managed to do the following to the site today:

- added the new schedules
- updated the stats pages that I could to reflect 3 divisions
- added a link to the SDA Bingo numbers
- made room at the bottom for some more stuff that I want to add
- fixed a few minor glitches
- updated the spare list
- added the poster for the Regina Zone Playoffs
- replaced the Elks Blind Draw Tourney poster as the first one had an error on it

If there's anything that you all would like to see on the site or want to suggest something, please do not hesitate to e-mail me.

I will be putting a link to the SDA petition on our site soon.

Just a couple of things to point out with the C Division schedule:

- Legion Of Doom is listed as the Visitor 6 times and the Home team only 4 times instead of a 5/5 split. However, one of those visitor labels is when they play at home vs. their sister team in a crossover, so they do actually have 5 home and 5 away games

- In week 5 both Elks teams (Mary's Kids and Wanna B's) will be hosting games at the same time on the same night. Al has told me that the Elks has 4 boards and can accomodate 2 separate games involving 4 teams. This is a result of doing crossover games and was not avoidable

Also, just a reminder that I will be monitoring the use of spares this session and will be penalizing teams that do not use league certified spares.

I will need to collect money from a few teams as well, I will contact each team individually to make arrangements. If I am President again next year, I want to stop this tardiness by teams by implementing some new rules involving payments and penalties.

I think that's it for now, Happy New Year all and if anyone has any questions, please contact any member of the executive. Thanks.

Hey Darcy , good job on the three div's.and the schedules.

Thanks Greg. The league isn't quite to where I want it to be yet, but it's getting there. Happy New Year all!

Hey all, I went to do the stats this morning and noticed that I am missing one sheet from every division. It's sort of redundant for me to do any of the stats without those sheets so I'll have to wait for them before I can do the stats. I have e-mailed the home team captains for the missing sheets.

In the first half of this year, I had 3 or 4 people advise me that they've emailed me the scoresheet but yet I have not received it. These are people that I have absolutely no reason to disbelieve, so all I can say is that I have no clue what's happening. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen from time to time. What I'm going to do from now on is to send you a quick reply notifying you that I got your email containing your score sheet.

Just thought I'd keep you all in the loop and let you know that I'm not just lazy, I just don't have enough sheets to warrant doing up the stats today. I have a busy weekend, so the earliest I can get to the stats would be Monday morning. Thanks.

Today I:

- updated the site with the stats from week 1 of the new session
- updated the new spare list (see note giving info below)
- ensured all was in line with the 3 divisions

There is a new spare on the spare list, his name is Shawn Jarvis. He is a highly ranked player from the steel tip league in Medicine Hat. He was the captain of the City Champs from last year in that league. He has recently moved to Regina and is dying to get into the steel tip scene. He'd much rather play full time with a team than just spare and miss out playing all together. Since he just moved here, his phone #'s are not valid right now so the best way to contact him is to call his girlfriend (Bridget) at the numbers on the spare list. He is available immediately and is eager to play.

That is all for now.

Wow, 11 am on Wednesday and I already have 5 out of 8 score sheets!!! Cool!

Good work guys!!!

Hello everyone,
Just a reminder to you that the Regina Zone is hosting the "Blizzard" dart tournament this weekend at the Eagles Club. Hope to see you there.
Pat

I am unable to do the stats this morning as I am still missing 2 sheets. I have emailed the responsible captains and should I get the sheets soon, I should get an opportunity to do them up sometime this weekend.

I will advise when I get the stats updated. Thanks.

Hi Darcy. Could you take me off the spare list, as the Eagles (Al Bradley) have asked me to join them for the rest of the season and i accepted. Thank you

hi darcy. is there any rule in our league that would not allow a team to use 5 in the singles as well?

Victor: I will take care of that when I update the site. Unfortunately I am still missing the Legion of Doom vs. Serbian Club #2 sheet, so the site never got updated on time.

Randy: I'm checking on if there's a rule against that for you. I can't forsee a situation where you'd want to intentionally do that however. As far as I know, you can play 5 players in 301. Keep in mind that it makes doing the stats a little more difficult for me and we all know that keeping me happy is of the highest importance!

Edited by author 01-21-2008 01:27 PM
I updated the site today with the following:

- Updated all stats to reflect week 2 stats. I would've done it sooner, but I was hoping that after I emailed the captain, that the sheet I was missing from the Serbian Club 2 team would've come in over the weekend. It didn't. So, the site also reflects that as well
- I fixed the spare list. Victor is no longer a spare and Shawn Jarvis is now a fully paid spare
- I added a new section entitled "Players Of The Week" (I replaced the league bulletin board and will bring that back once the SDA Bingo card section is gone). Sometimes when I do stats I see that a particular player or players played better than normal or came up with some sort of feat that should be pointed out. When I see this, I will post their name and their feat up in that section. I will probably only do it for the 2nd half of each season, not the half that seeds you. I know that when you click on it, the picture doesn't come up and it's not right, but I'll fix it sooner or later.
- I also changed the vote to reflect a new question
- Did some minor cleaning up.

I will fix that new section and I want to update the links section to put John Brann's dart site up there and add a bunch of video dart games that I've been meaning to put up there for awhile. Is there anything else that you all would like to see added/deleted from the site? Feel free to email me!

Randy: I double checked on any ruling prohibiting 5 players from playing the 301 section and I was correct. There is no rule preventing 5 players from playing in the 16 games of 301. Again, I don't know why you'd bother doing it, but for now, you can do it. I would like to point out that from a statistician's view, it does create more work for me as now there's an extra player playing and the numbers aren't a straight 4 games/week for each player playing. What I would like to do is to visit this topic at the AGM and discuss it there. You must remember that this league was developed as a 4 player league. There are some teams that carry 5 regular players, but they've always sat 1 person out of singles. I would like to see that continue instead of complicating things, but again, I'd rather discuss it at the AGM, but for now, a team can do it, but I'd really not like to see any teams start doing that.

Don't forget that the Regina Zone Playoffs are coming up soon!

Thanks.

Edited by author 01-22-2008 02:36 PM
It has come to my attention that a small handful of you are using darcman@darcman.com as my main e-mail addy for some reason.

The missing score sheet from last week was in there and since I haven't gone in that inbox for quite some time, I cleaned it out and I came across several emails from dart players asking questions etc.

Please only use the_darcman@hotmail.com as my one and only email address for all future correspondence. It's okay if you want to send a copy to my darcman.com address but don't use it as my primary addy.

If you have any questions or a score sheet, please send it

ONLY TO:

the_darcman@hotmail.com

Thank you.

2 important notes:

1 - Due to missing one sheet and one rescheduled game, all divisions are missing some information, so it's pointless for me to start doing the stats when I just have to go back and redo them when I get the missing info anyway. Thus, I will not be doing the stats until I get that info.

2 - Effective immediately, Queen City Kids will be playing the remainder of the season out of the Elks Club as their venue. I have changed the A division schedule to display the proper venues.

If anyone has any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks.

I have added a new player to the spare list. He has just moved here from Penticton B.C. and is interested in being a spare for the remainder of the year with our league. All his info is on the spare list.

I will update the site with the other stuff once the rescheduled game gets played and I get the score sheets from this week.

If anyone has any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Wow! What a week for missing sheets! The weather played a big part in it as well though. For those missing sheets, please get them into me asap. For those games that have been rescheduled, please play them sooner than later.

The following was updated on the site today:

- all stats up to week 4, everything that I have is up on the site however, because of all the missing sheets, the stats are very incomplete
- updated the spare list (took Drew's name off as he will be Tina's replacement for the remainder of the season)
- I never did get around to fixing the Player of the Week awards or adding John Brann's site, but I will get to that sometime soon

Please remember that when you are faxing in your sheets, you are faxing them into my residence where small children live. I do not appreciate receiving faxes at 6:45 in the morning any more than I enjoy getting them at 2:20 in the morning. Just because you're up, doesn't mean that the entire galaxy is up with you. Just use some common sense. I'm usually up just after 7am every weekday morning and I would appreciate no faxes past midnight. Thanks.

If anyone has any questions, please contact me. Thanks.

Hi Darcy,we have to reschedule our game with the arrowsmen,three of them had a hockey game that night so we will play the match A.S.A.P..

Hi Darcy, we will be playing the missed night against Fourhorseman tuesday, all 62 games to make up.

Thanks Brent and Greg (and others) who have kept me posted on rescheduled matches.

I am missing 3 sheets for this past week this morning so it is pointless to even start doing the stats. I will wait for more sheets to come in. Thanks.

I updated the schedule links to show which games I am still missing sheets on. I will also send a copy of this to the team captains.

If you have one of the missing sheets, please send it in asap. If you have a rescheduled game to make up, please play it asap! And please keep me informed. Thanks.

Hi Darcy, WP 1 and Fourhorseman had to cancel another night due to sick players, but plan to replay both missed nights on a Saturday.

Just FYI, I am working on the stats today with what sheets I have. I actually got 2 more this morning, so that's good. I will do the stats for what sheets I have.

Thanks again to those of you keeping me in the loop with all these rescheduled games. Between the weather and this flu that's going around, it's been a very difficult season!

Thanks again to all of you for your patience, understanding and support. The stats/site should be updated later this morning or early afternoon. Thanks.

The site is updated with the sheets that I have. I also updated a couple of minor changes in the executive and team contact lists. Please hit refresh if you don't see any changes.

I also put a little something special on the site for Vic!

Can someone please tell me what's happening with that missing game/sheet from week 2? I haven't heard anything in a month about it! Can you guys please get on that and play the game?

If you have a sheet that's listed as missing, please send it in asap.

If you have rescheduled the game and have not already advised me, please advise me when the date is. Thanks again to those of you who have kept me in the loop.

That is all. Good luck to all this week.

LOL I've opened up a whole new can of worms, eh Darcy!

I updated the site today with what I had for week 8. I also have been quietly getting the missing sheets from the previous weeks, so the site is almost completely caught up. Unfortunately I was missing 3 sheets from this week.

Anyway, I updated what I could, if you have any of the missing sheets, please send them to me asap. Thanks.

I updated the spare list today with a last minute addition. His name is Dan Arndt and he's played in our league before, but it was a long time ago.

He has been informed that if called he will have to pay his $20/fee.

I may not be around tomorrow so I decided that since I was only missing 2 sheets and I got the 3 that I was missing from last week, that I might as well just go ahead and update the site with what I have. If I don't have the 2 missing sheets by now, what difference is 24 hours going to make?

Anyway, the site is updated and I actually finally got around to putting a link to 'Darts Life' website run by John Brann. Please go to the links section and check it out. Click on the logo to go to the site. It's well worth the trip, it's actually quite a good site complete with TV listings of darts!

I also noticed that I never did update the past stats from previous years, I will ensure that I do that once this season is completed.

Next week is the final week of regular season.

I NEED THE SCORE SHEETS IN TO ME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE!!!!

I have to do up the stats in order to arrange the playoff schedules. One warning, the A division playoff schedule will not be done on Friday as the 2 make up games between Double Trouble and Four Horsemen will not be played until the evening of Friday March 14.

I also updated the spare list with more spares and put up a new poll question.

I think that's it, if anyone has any questions, please feel free to contact any member of the executive. Thanks.

I now have every missing sheet and all of the sheets from this week with the exception of the two matches of Double Trouble vs. 4 Horsemen. Those 2 matches will be played this Friday night. I will not be able to update the site until sometime on the weekend at best. So the A division schedule may be last minute. Not so much who's playing but where.

As far as the other divisions are concerned, I will be doing up the final stats tomorrow morning and I will include the playoff schedules. Good luck to all in the playoffs.

I will advise when the site is updated.

Edited by author 03-14-2008 02:31 PM
The site is now updated to include all the sheets that I have. The B & C Divisions are final, but the A Division still have 2 games left to be played (both matches are Double Trouble vs. Four Horsemen) and they are going to be played tonight. I will do my best to get the stats updated this weekend, but it's a busy one for me. Worst case scenario is that I'll do it up on Monday morning. I will make a posting on here when it is done.

The B & C division first round matchups are on the schedule, however improbable, it is mathematically possible for the present 2nd place A team (Four Horsemen) to drop as low as 4th after the 2 missed matches are played. So I am unable to do the A division playoff schedule until tonight's matches are complete. It is mathematically impossible for the 5th place team to move up, but it is possible for them to move down. So as I mentioned, I cannot do the schedule until those matches are done.

Also, I've run into a problem with the playoff format as far as who gets to play out of their home bar. In the 2nd round of the playoffs, 1st place and 2nd place are supposed to host the matches. Unfortunately, in the C division, both of those teams (Serbian Club Won (2nd place) & Serbian Club #2 (first place)) play out of the same bar. Also, in the A division, if the Four Horsemen host the 2nd round match in A that's the same location as the B division Team Phoenix. I also have the same problem with the 2 teams playing out of Trifons (A - You Tick Me Off, and B - Arrows Men).

Now, in the past, I've just given the edge to the higher division team, but I don't think that it's fair that (for example only, let's say) You Tick Me Off could go through the playoffs playing at home the entire course of the playoffs, while the Arrows Men would have to play the entire playoffs on the road.

If the current standings stay the way they are, I will have no conflicts in the first round, but I am guaranteed to have at least 2 conflicts in the 2nd round. See? That's why I get paid the big bucks to think ahead about these things! ;-P

What I was thinking of doing was in the first week that there is a conflict, give the home location to the sister team with the higher win percentage in the standings, then if there are further conflicts for the remainder of the schedule, then switch back and forth. However, that's not entirely mathematically accurate either (as some people have argued that the higher division has to play the tougher opponents so they should be awarded the home location based on that alone). But the winning percentage (regardless of division) is the way I'm leaning towards right now. If anyone has any comments or suggestions, please feel free to either email me or any member of the executive or leave a posting on here.

Okay, also I added a new 'Pics & Stuff' section on the site. If anyone has any dart related stuff to submit to it, please send it to me. If you have any comments, please feel free to email me or leave a message on here. Please check it out and let me know what you think of it!

Also, I have decided to go ahead and put up the poster for the Soft Tip Provincial Tournament that is going on later this month. I know that it's not customary for the steel league to promote the soft league and vice versa, but I think that it's time for change in that regards. Finally the soft tip and steel tip league have been working well together in all ways possible and have developed a good rapport over the past couple of seasons, and I'd like to strengthen that relationship over the next couple of seasons (or as long as I'm the President of this league) in order to further increase the growth of both leagues. This tournament is open to everyone!

Finally, I got ahead of myself and I listed all the stats on the site as being 'End of Season' of 'Final'. This is naturally not the case in the A division until the 2 matches are completed tonight. Also, the High Scores and High Outs are still live during playoffs, so it's not yet finalized as to who has the most 140's and 180's. Keep marking those high scores down! Keep in mind that individual wins, and team rankings will not be kept during playoffs, only high scores/outs and advancements through the playoffs are all that's kept track of.

One reminder! The playoff matches are NOT the best of 31 games! They are a race to 15! The only way that you should end up playing all 31 games is if one team wins 16-15. I don't want to see any score sheets that have the score as 21-10 or something, they really should read 15 - 10 or something. Please ensure that all score sheets are submitted to me asap!

I think that's it for now. I will do my best to update the site as soon as possible, but I make no promises other than it will be earlier Monday morning at the very latest.

If anyone has any questions/concerns, please feel free to contact any member of the executive. Thanks and good luck to all in the playoffs!

I got the two missing sheets, and I have updated the site to show the A Division playoffs.

I will make a decision on the home locations of the 2nd round soon.

If anyone has any questions, please contact me or any other member of the executive. Thanks.

ok quick question about this race to 15 darc we have already played but we did a race to 16 sorry but in talking we were thinking we play 31 games normaly half is 15 with 16th game been the deciding game so would it not be fair to make it 16 (not that it mattered in our case we had the 15th long before the 16th)

Yes, of course you are right Darren, I'm surprised no one noticed my typo before. It should be a race to 16, not 15. My bad. I trust that the rest of the teams knew to do the same thing. (fingers crossed)

I am about to update the website with the results of the 1st round of playoffs. I just figured I'd put up the schedule here as well. When 2 teams were supposed to host a game out of the same location I gave teh home location to the team with the highest win %. Here's what the 2nd week looks like.

A Division
Queen City Kids (4) vs. Eagles Predators (1) (At Eagles Club)
You Tick Me Off (3) vs. Four Horsemen (2) (At Broadway Western Pizza)

B Division
Night Flytes (5) vs. Arrows Men (1) (At Trifons Pizza)
3 Guys & A Girl (3) vs. Team Phoenix (2) (At Austrian Club)

C Division
Wanna B's (5) vs. Serbian Club #2 (1) (At Serbian Club)
Legion Of Doom (3) vs. Serbian Club Won (2) (At Legion)

I realize that I probably could've set up both games that are being played at the wrong location at a neutral site (the only place available is the Elks club for both games), but I wanted to talk to the captains first and didn't get the score sheets in time to do that, so I just decided to put them where I did. Next year we'll look at doing neutral site games instead. If the captains of those games agree to play at a neutral site instead, that's totally up to them, no problems, it's just that with the long weekend, the holiday today and that I got the B & C division sheets so late, it's practically impossible to discuss it first.

I will be updating the site shortly. Remember to get your sheets in to me asap please. I don't keep track of all the stats, but I do keep track of final score (REMEMBER, all playoff matches are a race to 16, not 15 as I previously stated) and I also still keep track of high scores and high outs.

If anyone has any questions, please feel free to contact any member of the executive. Thanks.

Edited by author 03-28-2008 12:31 PM
The City Finals are set...well, sort of anyway.

A Division
Queen City Kids (4 & defending Champions) vs. Four Horsemen (2) being played at Glencairn WP

B Division
3 Guys & A Girl (3 & defending Champions) vs. Arrows Men (1) being played at Trifons

C Division

I have no clue! I know that the Serbian Club Won team won their match 16 - 15 vs. Legion Of Doom and have played their way to the C Division final, however, I never got a score sheet or an email advising me who won, so I have no idea who the opponents will be. Either way, the C division final will be played at the Serbian Club, I just don't know both opponents as of yet. As soon as I know, you'll all know.

Good luck to all in the City Championships this week. I will be trying to check in on the matches as they are played. If anyone has any questions/concerns, please do not hesitate to contact myself or any other member of the executive. Thanks.

Finally, good luck to all who are participating in the soft tip Provincials this weekend in Regina!

I don't have time to update the site itself, but the C Division final will be an all Serbian Club matchup as Serbian Club #2 (1) will square off against Serbian Club Won (2) at the Serbian Club tonight.

Good luck to all darters playing in the City Finals tonight.

Congratulations to the City Champions!

A Division - 4 Horsemen
B Division - 3 Guys & A Girl
C Division - Serbian Club #2

I will update the site with all the final stuff once I get the A Division sheet as I am still waiting for that one.

We will have a year end shin-dig soon, but I will have to get back to you about that later.

Thanks to all for a great season!

The windup/election/general meeting will be:

Tuesday April 29th, 7:00 pm at the Elks Club

We will be doing the league executive elections, handing out some awards and having a general meeting to bring some topics of discussion to the forefront. Everyone is welcome to attend and there will be a blind draw doubles tournament afterwards for anyone interested.

Also, in regards to blind draw doubles, the Elks will be holding their final blind draw doubles tournament of the season on Friday May 9th at the Elks. More information will be available at the meeting on the 29th. Please have as many people from your team attend as possible as the more opinions we have on things the better we can run the league next season.

The website is not totally updated and will not be for awhile due to some technical difficulties with my computer. I will have things up and running as soon as possible.

If anyone has any questions/concerns, please feel free to contact me or any member of the executive. Thanks.

Just a reminder that the meeting is tonight at 7:00 pm at the Elks Club, hopefully a lot of you will show up.

It will be followed by a blind draw doubles tournament if there's enough people. Thanks.

Hey Darcy,I was woundering if you could give me a call and give me some info on how much it cost for a team and when it starts thanks.


Ryan at 530-7786

Hey Darcy, I am thinking of playing the upcoming season. I would like to be a spare, or join a new team with newer or inexperienced players. If there are any new teams looking for a player, my numbers are: Home 525-2990, cell 529-1641, e-mail carlogentile@netscape.net or cgentile@westrans.com.
Thanks. Carlo

Hi Darcy. Just a note to let you know I'm interested in playing again this year. Please keep me updated by email. Given my schedule it might be best if I spared again but would not mind being a 5th player on a regular team. Home is 543-4089 and my email remains beachmamaandpapa@sasktel.net.

Ken Taylor
ps Sorry about missing the end of the season last year but had a great trip to Australia and Singapore. 54 years since I had been to Singapore. Found the old house and shed a few tears. Can now say I have been around the world.

Hey Darc
Just wondering when you plan to get the league started this year? Any particulars would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Hey Mike, I sent out an email to everyone earlier today, you should've gotten it (I will double check to ensure that you're still in the email list. I meant to put something on here too but overlooked it. This email also got sent out to the entire soft tip league as well as I expect a few new teams to originate from there this year. Here is a copy of the email regarding our AGM.


Hey all,
 
We are holding the steel tip dart league AGM on Tuesday Sept. 9 at 7:30pm at the Austrian Club. If you are planning on playing this season, either as a spare, a single player looking for a team, or on your own team (new or existing) then you need to come to this meeting.
 
We will be discussing some important things regarding the upcoming season that will be decided that night. Also, if you just want more information on the league, it's a good idea to come to this meeting.
 
This is not Registration Night, we will be setting a date for that during this meeting.
 
Should you have any questions, please email the steel tip President, Darcy 'Darcman' Antonissen at the_darcman@hotmail.com or just come to the meeting!
 
Thanks.
 
RSTPDL President,
 
Darcy Antonissen

The Registration night for the 2008/2009 season will be:

Tuesday Sept. 16, 7:00 at the Elks Club with a blind draw doubles tournament to follow (providing there is enough interest)

League fees are due by Nov. 4 and the league will no longer accept individual fees. The captain is responsible for paying the entire fee.

After registration is closed, I will place players with teams and place teams with venues.

If anyone has any questions, please email any member of the executive. Thanks.

Youth Dart League:

The Regina Zone of the Saskatchewan Darts Association will be starting a youth dart league for youth dart players ( girls and boys) from ages 8 to 18.

The league registration will be at 1:30 P.M. on Sunday, October 5, 2008 at the Elks Club, 4915 1st Ave.N., Regina.

There will be a $20.00 registration fee.


For further information contact Pat Copeman @ 949-5180 or Bonnie Lapierre @ 545-9815

Just to keep you all in the loop:

I wasn't able to finalize the teams and locations until late last night. I was busy today so didn't get a chance to start working on the schedule until tonight.

We will have an odd number of teams this year (15) so there will be bye weeks and because there are more teams than weeks played, some teams will not have a bye, so to determine divisional alignment when we return in the New Year, it will be based on a winning percentage.

I'm having a rough time just doing up the first session schedule where everyone plays everyone, let alone what to do with the 2nd session. I could go 3 divisions of 5 teams each, but then that really makes scheduling difficult with each division having a bye every week. I may put forth some suggestions to a vote on the site, but that will come later.

For now, just be patient, I will get the schedule done and up asap. Just keep checking here for now. I will email all the team captains that have provided email addresses and we will be starting this upcoming Tuesday September 30th for sure.

If anyone has any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact me or any member of the executive. Thanks in advance for your patience.

Edited by author 09-28-2008 03:52 AM
I think I have the schedule finalized!! You have NO idea just how much work goes into making the schedule!

Anyway, I am going to send the preliminary schedule to the rest of the executive and a select few for proofing and once it's agreed that there are no errors (ie: same teams playing each other more than once, too much of a difference between home and away games, etc.), then it will be posted for all to see, and I will email all the team captains that I have email addresses for.

Keep checking for updates. Thanks again for your patience.

It figures that the dart schedule and my football playoffs would fall on the same weekend! At least my team won our City Quarter Final game! Semi final tomorrow!

Anyway, if anyone has any comments or questions, please feel free to post a message or email me. Thanks again.

Schedule is up! I will be sending out an email shortly to all team captains that I have email addresses for advising them. Keep in mind that if it looks like you have a bunch of away games, there is a bye week that not all teams got, so some schedules worked out that instead of getting a bye, you ended up playing as the away team. Also, sometimes the away team is playing their sister team at home, so for the most part, it all works out. If anyone has any questions about the schedule, please contact me via a message on here or email.

I will be slowly updating the site as time permits to get it ready for the season.

If anyone has any questions/concerns, please feel free to contact me or any member of the executive.

Have a great season!

Hey everyone,

I would normally do up the league stats on Friday mornings, however, I only received 4 out of 7 score sheets this week! This is obviously not worth my time to do the stats and then have to go back and do them over again when I get the other 3 sheets. So, I will not do the stats until I have all 7 sheets.

I have the following sheets (thank you):
- Serbian Wonders vs. GWP#1
- QCK vs. Legion
- 4 Horsemen vs. Trouble Makers
- Eagles vs. 3 Guys & A Girl

I am missing the following sheets:
- Tippy Canoe vs. Team Phoenix
- Double Trouble vs. Arrowsmen
- Dragons vs. Socia Bulls

Since this is the first week, I won't get all bent out of shape (like it's been rumoured that I've done in the past), but I would like to remind all captains that it is the home team's responsibility to get the score sheets in to me by Thursday night. However, if the visiting captain is willing to do it, that's totally fine as well, as long as I get it. It creates a lot more work for me to go back and have to redo all the stats just to put in even one missing sheet, plus then because you didn't send in the sheet, it is you who is holding up the stats for everyone else.

There are 2 methods of getting the sheet to me.

1) The quickest and easiest for everyone involved is to send it to me through email. Just use the email template (if you don't still have one, it can be found on our site under 'downloadable files'), just fill out the information and send it to me, and you're done. Quick and easy. I will copy and paste this posting in an email to all the team captains and I will put an attachment of a score sheet that has already been filled out correctly. That way, you will have a template and you can just replace the existing info with your own.

2) The other way is by faxing the score sheet to the number on top of the sheet. Two things with that though. #1 - It is my residence, so please do not fax the score sheet at 3am! #2 - I need to be home for it to work. My voice mail kicks in before the fax machine and it will cut it off. I'm working on fixing that problem. But if you go to fax me and you hear someone answer the phone and say "hello", don't worry, it will still work.

If anyone has any questions or concerns, please feel free to email me or leave a message. Thanks in advance for your co-operation and have a great season!

Just to keep you all in the loop, I am working on the site this morning. When you come on and check back periodically, more and more should be updated.

I figured I would do up the stats complete for one week, then add in the 2nd week instead of doing it all at once. It's more work for me, but it ensures that a mistake in updating cannot happen, especially with the up/down part of the rankings.

The entire site should be completely updated by noonish. Thanks.

I have received an email from Eugene Wilson, the Elks Club is starting the blind draw doubles fun nights on October 24/08. Other nights scheduled so far are Nov.7th and Novv. 21st
I would also like to remind you all that the Sask Open dart tournament is being held at the Eagles Club on October 25th and 26th. Hope to see you there.

Although I said that I would not update the stats on the website if I was missing any sheets, I did them up for this week anyway despite missing one sheet. The site is up to date. Enjoy!

If anyone has any concerns/questions, please feel free to contact me.

In responce to the poll question, it would benefit the league if " ALL BARS" had decent boards and proper lighting, and an area bigger than a smart car to play in.

For those of you who are planning on attnding the Sask Open this coming weekend I would like you to know that the Eagles Club will be serving breakfast starting at 8:00 A.M.

Just to keep you all in the loop, I have the following sheets:

Week 3: Arrowsmen vs. Serbian Wonders (previously missing)

Week 4:
Arrowsmen vs. You Tick Me Off
Queen City Kids vs. Tippy Canoe
Legion vs. Trouble Makers
Glencairn WP#1 vs. 3 Guys & A Girl
Socia Bulls vs. Double Trouble

I am missing:

- Eagles vs. Four Horsemen (I think this game got rescheduled, but no one has let me know for sure)
- Team Phoenix vs. Serbian Wonders

Thanks.

The site is updated including a couple of additions to the spare list. Sorry for not getting it done this morning, but life got in the way.

There is probably some major news for our league that will be announced before Tuesday...I hope.

I would hope that you all vote for the last option on the web poll. :-)

it wouldn't be a bad idea if the home teams would take care of keeping score or at least everybody playing take a turn. some of us would like to relax between games as well instead of marking scores all night. or do some people have an allergy to chalk.

I just want to take this opportunity to thank the home team captains for getting in the sheets so quick. By 8am Wednesday morning, I had 5 out of 7 sheets already! That's awesome! Thanks guys.

Edited by author 10-31-2008 11:56 AM
Hey all,

First of all thanks for getting all the sheets in to me so quick, that was great!

new on the site:
- added Jeff Berner to the spare list
- had to adjust the spare list due to having to strip it bare to make a new team
- adjusted the Team Contacts section to reflect the addition of The Replacements team, which are replacing Arrowsmen
- added extra players to the POW section as there were a lot of good darts thrown this week
- updated all stats, changed web poll

I will be adding a poster for a tournament once I get the poster back again, I lost the original copy. Totally my bad!

Also, captains, please check your email for some important information that you all need to read!

That's it for now, if anyone has any questions, please contact me. Thanks.

 why is there no message posted regarding the elks blind draw tournaments . there is suppose to be one tonite but when i got there , it isn't even open . was it cancelled for some reason ?

what happened to the stats for last week ?

Kevin: Those stats are coming. Through no fault of any of the captains, I didn't have all the sheets on Friday, and because there are no darts this week, I decided to take my time doing them up. They'll be up hopefully later tonight.

Al: I have no idea if/why the tournament was cancelled on the 7th, all I can tell you was that I was supposed to put up something on the site to advise everyone that there was a tournament, but I never did because I didn't update the site. I will ensure that doesn't happen again.

I will advise you all when the site is updated. Thanks for the understanding.

The site is now updated to include last week's games. Thanks.

Edited by author 11-22-2008 12:43 PM
Missing 2 sheets from week 7, the stats will be delayed based on that. The home captains have been notified.

So, all season, the sheets have been coming in just fine with very few problems, a couple of captains just simply forgot, but whatever, that will happen from time to time.

However, the past couple of weeks have had 3 captains submit score sheets electronically and I either didn't receive them or they just disappeared from my email!

So, from here on in, once I get your email with a score sheet, I will send you a confirmation email back that I got the attachment. This will prevent people from thinking their sheet is in while I'm waiting for them to send it. I will attempt to stay on top of things a bit more and advise a little sooner if I'm missing your sheet.

Just a note that I will do my best to have last week's stats up asap. Although I don't think it will be until Wednesday at the earliest as I won't be around much tomorrow and I'm still missing one sheet from last week (Tippy Canoe vs. 4 Horsemen).

Also, please remember that the Santa's Anonymous tournament is coming up on Dec. 9. A big part of the enjoyment/successfulness of the tournament is dependant upon how many prizes we can all get donated to the tourney. Of course the main objective is to raise presents for the kids, but it would be nice to come away with something as well, so I'm asking all captains to remind their players about the tournament and even if they are not planning to attend, to see if they can secure any kind of prizes from anywhere. Doesn't have to be fancy (although those 2 wicked BBQ's a couple of years ago was sweet!), pretty much anything will work.

I am attempting to set up a time with CJME for myself and Pat to go on air to promote the event as Bonnie & I did a couple of years ago.

If anyone has any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks for your patience.

The site has been updated to reflect the results from week 7. I will do up week 8 once I get all the sheets in. I have 3 out of 7 so far.

The Replacements have decided to continue to keep the team going in the new year so that will mean that one B/C team will have a bye each week. I was looking at the stats and quite honestly if the season were to end today and going on a 5/5/5 schedule, to put the Eagles Predators in B is not a wise idea. So, what I'm thinking of doing is working the schedule much like last season. What I would do is split it 6/5/4 and do the schedule as if the C division had 5 teams, but it would be a bye. This would still allow for crossover matches between B & C division and would allow for the proper teams to play in the proper divisions.

I welcome any and all comments! If you wish to send them privately, please email them to: the_darcman@hotmail.com Thanks.

I just updated the site with all the week 8 stuff and updated some contact info on the Team Contact page.

Please do not forget about the Santa's Anonymous Tournament on Dec. 9 at 6:30 at the Elks!

Thanks to those captains that responded to my question about splitting up the divisions the way I thought they should fairly be split up upon our return in the New Year, your input was much appreciated.

If anyone has any questions, please feel free to contact me.

Hi Darcy,just wanted to suggest a new poll,asking who wants santa shoot on Tues. or Fri.evening.I heard alot of people say they would rather Fri.This is just a suggestion.Tina

It's too late now to change the date of the tournament for this year. However, I'm certainly not against giving it a try for a Friday. In some ways that's better, and in some ways it's not.

I think we either tried or at least visited this idea one other time and we were running into problems with Xmas parties and bookings during the Xmas season.

We can discuss this at the next league meeting for sure though.

Just to keep you all in the loop, I do have all the score sheets from this week, however, due to a family situation I do not have time to do the stats up at the moment. I will do my best to get the stats up by the SA Tourney, but I make no guarantees.

I apologize for the delay.

Edited by author 12-08-2008 10:29 AM
The site is updated with the stats from the last week. I have also updated the spare list (kinda) and have added a tournament poster for the Regina Blizzard Tournament. (Look at me go Pat!).

Another reminder about the SA Tourney tomorrow night, 6:30 at the Elks Club. Hopefully a lot of you can make it out!

I have looked at the calender and here's how the next session will break down.

- We will play for 10 weeks of regular season, and 3 weeks of playoffs
- We will start on Jan. 13 and run until Mar. 17 (10 weeks)
- The playoffs will be Mar. 24, 31, with the City Finals being played on April 7
- When you return in the New Year the Divisions will be as follows:

A Division - 6 teams
Four Horsemen
You Tick Me Off
Eagles Predators
Tippy Canoe
Queen City Kids
Double Trouble

B Division - 5 teams
Team Phoenix
3 Guys & A Girl
The Replacements
Dragons
Glencairn WP#1

C Division - 4 teams
Trouble Makers
Legion
Serbian Wonders
Social Bulls

Since we are short one team, I will be trying to see if I can work the B division bye week into both the B and C division, but I doubt that will be feasible, so each B division can expect two bye weeks in the regular season, but I will see what I can do. I might even see if there is enough interest from the soft tip league and see if I can get a quick throw together team and put them in B to eliminate any byes. I'll keep you all posted.

If anyone has any questions, concerns, or a suggestion based on the web poll question, please feel free to contact me or any member of the executive. Thanks.

I think this player of the week is getting carried away. Pretty soon the whole league will be posted . Last season there was two people a week. Maybe just put up a player if they did something special not everyone with four 140's and 4 single wins.

Your comments are noted Kevin.

I would like to point out though, that last season, after I posted my picks for POTW, I would get emails from certain people asking why they were not mentioned for their accomplishments for that particular week. I advised them that I did not want to get carried away with the award (just as you are commenting on), however, it was pointed out to me that there are between 58 - 64 people playing darts in our league every Tuesday and if I were to put 4 or 5 names a week up, that's still less than 10% of the league and it would not be considered getting carried away. Obviously, you think that is not necessarily correct thinking.

I would also like to point out that we all know how difficult it is to win all 4 singles games in any night, hence those are the things that catch my eye first, and if someone wins all 4 of their games and does it while getting a high score or high out (or two or more), then it's not fair that their name doesn't go up just because I had already picked 2 people prior to seeing their score. I also don't put EVERY person's name up just because they won 4 games either, there have been some people who have been overlooked, simply because I didn't want to put too many names up. Just my opinion of course.

Kevin, what I'll do is I'll put it up as a new poll the next time the site gets updated and I will certainly go back to just 2 people if that's what gets picked on the poll. All I ask is that y'all stop bugging me if I don't put your name up! LOL

Again, your comments are appreciated.

Are you telling me then if we had 200-300 dart players every Tuesday we should put upwards of 28-30 players just because they had a good week. Look at the CFL and NHL, all those players and 3 or 4 players of the week. I don't care if my name goes on the list. It should be for a special achievement like a players first 180 in league or maybe a long winning streak in singles. Four singles wins is a lot easier in the first half of the season then in the second half.

Edited by author 12-10-2008 10:57 AM
No Kevin, that's not what I'm saying. I didn't say that I SHOULD put up 10% of the league's players as POTW, all I'm saying is that if there are enough high scores/outs/wins to warrant me putting up 4 or 5 names (which is less than 10% of the league) then why not do it? And based upon the feedback that I have received, others feel the same way. I wasn't saying that I have to put up 10% of the players, just that if there were enough good shots made, then why not?

However, if we had 300 players, I'd be crazy to put up 30 names a week! It already takes me a couple of hours to do the stats as it is. ;-P

Like I said, I'll put up a poll and we'll see. And I do agree with you that winning 4 games in a night is easier for some in the first half, so there should be less players up on the list for the 2nd half, but we'll see I guess.

Edited by author 12-26-2008 06:14 PM
Just to keep you all in the loop, I spent over 4 hours doing up the schedules today. I have them completed (I hope) and have sent them to the rest of the executive for inspection. Once I am given the okay from them, I will post up the schedules as well as the changes for the upcoming season.

A reminder that darts will resume on Jan. 13 (I thought it was the 6th) and there are a couple of teams that have changed locations.

The Replacements will now be playing out of Gaebel's (B division)
Team Phoenix will now be playing out of Trifons (B division)
Above The Norm (new team) will be playing out of Broadway WP (C division)

I will advise on here as well as an email to the captains when the site has been updated. Should be sometime this upcoming week.

Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas!

Now that the holiday season is quickly becoming a dot in the rear view mirror, my plan is to update the site with the new schedules and all the other stuff, on Tuesday Jan. 6 or Wed. Jan. 7. Just wanted to let you all know. Thanks.

who is the norm that will be playing in the c division is it a brand new team to make up 5 for the division

Edited by author 01-04-2009 08:20 AM
The Norm that you are inquiring about is Norm Peel from soft tip darts.

Yes, Above The Norm is a team that has been thrown together at the last minute to make the C division have 5 teams. It will have Tiffany Caron as the team captain and along with Norm, they will be making regular appearances weekly. Other than that, a lot of spares will be used (but hopefully not harmed) in the weekly shinanigans of this team!

The site is slowly being updated today. I have all the schedules up and other stuff will be updated periodically throughout the day.

If anyone can't load something or is having any problems at all, please contact me via email or this board asap. Thanks.

Just so that there's no confusion, league play does NOT begin tonight (Jan. 6)!

Regular league play starts on Tuesday Jan. 13, 7:30. I accidentally posted an old version of the schedule that I had that showed that we start tonight. It is now fixed. My bad!

Also, the web-poll doesn't seem to be working properly, that fix is out of my control, hopefully it will update itself on it's own. The voting part works, but it didn't update the new question when you look at the results.

Hopefully that's all that's wrong so far. Thanks for your patience.

Hi Darcy great to see the new schedule! however a small glitch, as team names do not always indicate the clubs they play out of. could this be added if possible. Thanks

Ya Paul, you're not the first person to have said something along those lines to me this week. I will put locations of play on there within the next few days. My bad. Thanks for bringing it up.

Hey all. As requested by more than one person, I have updated the schedules to show the location of the matchup. If you're still unsure of where a certain location is, just click on 'Team Information List' and it will list the physical addresses of all locations.

Also, I updated the 'Team Information List' to reflect everyone's phone numbers and/or email addresses. It is now fully complete.

Finally, the web poll thing is still messed up. The question is right and when you vote, it's all right, but when you go to the results, although the votes are in the right place, it shows the questions from the last poll. I am still working on fixing this but it's a bigger problem than anticipated.

Tomorrow night is the beginning of the second session, I wish all of you good luck. Thanks.

Good luck to everyone in the second season.

Darcy ,what is up with the schedule ? QCK and YOU TICK ME OFF don't play,FOUR HORSEMAN and DOUBLE TROUBLE don't play, and EAGLES PREDATORS and TIPPY CANOE don't play each other. But yet we all play another team 4 times and the others twice.What happened to playing each other twice?Is this an over sight. You must think by now that I am just a s*** disturber but you can't decide a championship on an unbalanced schedule.

Edited by author 01-13-2009 09:08 AM
Hey Kevin, I actually don't think you're a s*** disturber, I just wish that you would've said something sooner than 14 hours before the season is to kick off. LOL

Yes, it's an oversight. I can't change the entire schedule anymore, so the A division may have to play some games at a neutral site. It looks like week 5 and week 9 are the problems and got duplicated through the A division schedule somehow. I will work on fixing that this morning, but I have to ensure that the other divisions don't have the same problems first. Sorry for that.

Hard to believe that between the entire executive and a couple of other people checking the schedules for accuracy, and the schedules being up for a week for all to see, that Kevin is the only guy that caught that! I know who I'm voting for to take over the league scheduling! I just hope that the other divisions are okay.

I will try and fix the schedules without touching the first week so tonight's games will still go as planned.

Sorry about that folks.

Okay, so I think I have the A division schedule problem all fixed. The only downside is the following:

1 - The first time that Four Horsemen & Double Trouble play (week 5), they will have to play at the Elks Club. Unfortunately both of their sister teams are playing at home and to change that is an incredible headache.

2 - In week 9, both A division teams that play out of the Elks Club (Tippy Canoe & Queen City Kids) will both be playing home games. This was only possible because the 3rd Elks team (Trouble Makers) are playing on the road that week.

I sincerely apologize for these problems and I'm totally shocked that those errors got by so many people! LOL Thanks tons Kevin for noticing and pointing it out, but next time could ya give me a little more time to fix it up please?

I double checked the B & C schedules and they seem fine. If anyone has any questions/problems please feel free to leave a message on here or email me. Thanks.

Hey Darcy, I can't take the credit on this as much as I would like to.Randy brought it to my attention last night and I am just a messenger. Just like everyone else I just looked at week one for who and where we played.If I had checked it out earlier I surely would have let you known.

Wow! 5 out of 8 sheets in my grubby little hands this morning! Fantastic! Keep up the good work.

There seems to be some confusion as to what the individual games are to be played as in the A division. They've always been 301 but a suggestion was brought forward to change it to 501. I personally agree with that suggestion and I know that the executive did briefly discuss it, but to my knowledge I don't think it has been changed already. I was under the impression that the executive couldn't make that major of a change to league play without the confirmation of the league representatives, so thus it had to be tabled to the next AGM.

Now, as hard as it is to believe, I could be wrong about this. So, let me just check with the other members of the executive and I will get back to you all about it. I do think that it has to stay at 301 for now, but I do agree that the A division should be playing 501 singles. I will get back to you all when I get a chance. Thanks.

To all A division captains.

All 301 games in A division are now 501 games. Apparently we changed it at the last AGM in the spring and I simply forgot. We agreed to have it take effect in the 2nd session so that the 501 individual games were confined to ONLY the A division.

My bad.

Please share this with all your players and opponents. If there are any questions on the night of match play, then please feel free to call my cell 533-9676.

My apologies to those who I informed incorrectly.

If you played 301 games last night, those will still count as if they had been 501 as I know there are 2 teams who played 301 based on my comments. From here on in, play 501.

I will now sit here and eat crow with egg on my face.

Sigh

It's just after 9am and the site is already updated! Thanks to all of you for getting in your score sheets in to me as quickly as you did. As of last night, I had 7 out of 8 sheets, so I worked on it a bit last night so that I could get a jump on it.

I am still working on the web poll. I will hopefully have that fixed soon. A couple of other weird things going on, but I will iron those out as time passes.

If anyone has any questions/concerns, please feel free to email me or leave a message on the board. Thanks.

I have updated the site with information from week 2. I am missing one sheet from A division. I held off from updating the site in hopes that it would come, but it did not.

I have been working on the web poll problems and there is presently a server problem that is preventing me from being able to see if the web poll has been fixed or not. Again, I will fix it when I can.

Just a reminder that the Regina Zone Playoffs are this weekend. Please look at the poster on the site to find out more information. Thanks.

Hey there. First of I would like to say that I really enjoy this league, Unfortunately the the few problems I have are with all teams. First of all is the fact of who keeps score. As far as I know all HOME teams should be responsible. Secondly is that there should be no practicing while games are in play, of which has happened every week so far this year. And the third reason is telling team mates what to shoot for and how while they are standing on the line. If they don't realize what is left and what to shoot for we should be calling them off, other than telling them while they are standing there. I do love this game and enjoy playing in this league but if we cannot all folow the same rules then there is a problem. I ubderstand with new players but we all have to follow the rules no matter what division we are in. just putting it out there.

Hey Jamie,

All very valid points. Let me just address them briefly.

In the past, we did have rules in place that governed two of your concerns (practicing while games are going on and telling the shooter what to shoot for). Although those rules were never removed, in the past few years, the league (both the players and the executive members) has become more lenient in regards to some rules and a lot of the rules from years gone by have been simply not enforced any longer. Although this wasn't actually intentional, it has allowed the steel tip league to lose it's reputation of being a very 'serious' and 'non-fun' league. I do agree that there is a place where these rules need to be enforced and there is a place where we can let things slide. I suggest that this be brought up at the AGM where we will discuss which rules should be enforced when. I strongly urge you (as well as anyone else who is interested) to try and attend and help us (the executive) make this league a better one for everyone.

While being President over the past 4 years, I've been so focused on trying to expand the league that I've really gotten away from what this league is really all about and since there were enough previous players/teams, things ran just smooth enough on a nightly basis to get by. Perhaps it's time I devoted some time to other areas of the league.

I should take a moment and just mention that the rules that Jamie is addressing is:

- You cannot tell what the shooter is to shoot for. For example, you can tell the shooter who is at the line, that he has '32' left, but you cannot tell him to shoot for 'double 16'. If he steps away from the line you can then tell him privately. If someone from the shooter's team tells him what to shoot for, then his turn is over and he forfeits any darts he has left in that turn. In C division this rule has never really applied due to amount of players who are brand new to the game. In B division, it's always sort of been a hit and miss enforcement. Again, this rule has always been in place, but never really enforced anywhere for quite some time. The point behind this rule is lengthy, so if anyone wants to know the reason for this rule, please come to the AGM and I'll be more than happy to explain it's origin then.
 
- There is to be no practicing on any adjacent boards during league play. If you are shooting in a league game and there is an empty board next to you, no one is allowed to step up to the line at the empty board next to you. If you need to practice that badly, you are to wait until the shooter throws all 3 darts in his league game, then you can shoot while the shooters are switching, but again if the next shooter is standing at the line and is ready to shoot his darts, you must stop practicing and you may not enter the area from your adjacent shooting line to your board until the league shooter has finished throwing all 3 darts, (the actual rule is that you must be no where near the throwing line from your board anytime a league shooter is near his). However, you are allowed to practice on a board that is NOT adjacent to a board being used for league play. So for example at the Legion or the Elks, you could practice on a board that is a couple over from a league play board. Again, not really enforced, but I believe that this should be a league wide rule that's enforced. The reason for this rule is simple. Having someone 'mirroring' your actions of throwing a dart right next to you or talking or whatever can be a huge distraction and can throw the league shooter off just a bit. And if it's for a double out for the win, this can be quite costly. Again, this isn't really enforced, but it will be next season if I can get it re-implemented.

In regards to the score keeping, to my knowledge, there has never been a rule that stated that the home team was in charge of keeping score. It's just always been whoever wants to do it kind of thing. But again, it's something worth looking into.

I hope this has answered some of your concerns and I strongly urge you (and anyone else) to attend the AGM. I will advise on here the date when it is confirmed.

Also, thank you very much for your comments, any feedback, good or bad, is only going to help the league become a better and stronger one for the future. Glad you enjoy it Jamie!

I agree with Jamie . It has happened to me this year on a couple of occasions that other players were being "coached " while throwing.I was told they were new players and they needed help. How else are you going to learn if others are telling you what to do instead of figuring it out for yourself . If some people seem to have an alergy to score keeping just mark your own score and if they don't mark theirs too bad for them. Sometimes rules can be hard to enforce because everyone interprets them differently. At our next AGM it would be nice if all teams had at least two people in attendance to discuss these matters and to decide what punnishment for rule violations.

Holy Crap you guys.

Score keeping, agreed, everyone should take thier turn.
Practicing, as long as you are not involved with the game being played and don't practice on the next board, have at'er.
Coaching, this is where I stongly disagree with you guys. Myself and other veterans of darts should be ambassadors of the game. We should help and teach, not only to our own team, but also to anyone who askes. We finally have a few soft tip player playing and you want them to figure it out on thier own! To stand at the line and try and figure it out can be very nerv racking for some, and if this is the case we start to lose players. We should begin to enforce the no coaching rules come play-offs. Then at least most newbie's have had a regular season to prepare. Even in the A division, if there are some insipiring young darters, that wish to play up there, it can be very intimidating.

Please keep in mind you are in a recreational league open to all skill levels.

I run the Regina Soft Tip Dart League and coaching is encouraged at all levels, but not for any of the tournaments or play-offs.

I agree with Garnet. We want new players in this league and with Darcy as top dog we have come a long way. Darcy,Garnet,myself and a few others play both leagues and with Darcy's encouragement we have some teams that have decided to play both. Also,I have a couple of team mates that are soft tip players that are playing pub league for the first time. They like to have help as the outs are different in steel than soft tip and they are nervous to keep score in case they make a mistake. My wife is an ambassador of darts, keeps score most of the time and will help anyone who asks what they should shoot for, whether on her team or not. Even if you tell them what to shoot, they still have to hit it. Lots of players only come out on Tuesday for fun. They want to learn but this is the only chance they get and some take longer to learn than others. Even veterans get brain farts and need a hand!!

You guys just don't get it do you. People for centuries learn from their mistakes. I have no problem with asking what is left to shoot but how to get there. We all have brain farts at the line and need a reminder of what to shoot. If a player is that green maybe your team should practice with them more often .Don't coach at the line ,do it when the other player is throwing and don't distract them buy being overheard. Darts gets a bad rap especially from local media just ask rob vanstone . He thinks the game is a waste of time.I am all for growth and promotion .I tried to help when provincials were in Kronau .Those who know me thanked me and I appreciated it.

Well, since the web poll isn't working, it's nice to see some action on here at least!

Kevin, you said:

"Darts gets a bad rap especially from local media just ask rob vanstone . He thinks the game is a waste of time."

As it turns out, Rob and I go wayyyyy back. I might have to inquire about this little fault of his. Who knows, maybe he'll end up on the spare list next year? LOL

Keep up the convo people.

Hey Darc... was just looking at the past champs/records, looks like your missing 2007/2008... was just comparing this year and well... will compare if you post it to last season.

Thanks Darc, at you leasure of course :)

Hey all,

Due to the outstanding effort put forth by the captains this week, I got all the sheets in a day early and was able to update the site last night.

Vic, that has been a thorn in my side for quite some time. I've been meaning to update that part for quite awhile. Just keep reminding me and it will get done sooner than later! Thanks.

Edited by author 01-30-2009 04:40 PM
Kevin, I'm sorry, but you just don't getit. If that is the way you want it then you should insist that all two dart out charts be taken down immediately. If there is no coaching from the sidelines, then there is no charts. You can't have it both ways. Please remember, RECREATION. There is no coaching at provincials. There is no coaching at any steal tip tournaments.
Play at steel tip provincials has no music, maybe we should implement that. There is a dress code at steel tip provincials, maybe we should impliment that.
Man, I finally got my wife to play steel and now she wants to quite. She is even more intimidated because of this issue.
I guess we should stick to soft-tip, and leave the serious darting to you.

At one time this league was played with NDFC rules in effect. That took care of everything you are talking about, it also caused the decline of many teams because of the league being too serious. This is a fun night of darts, and if the fun stays maybe peoples attitudes will change and maybe more teams might join. That's my two cents, for what its worth. You can take it or leave it.

Whoa! People. I have started playing darts again after missing 10+ years and I am shocked at how few people show up for events and league play. I am starting to see why. The bickering over minor rules should just not happen. At this level of darts it is all about pushing your own limits (skills) and having fun, even if you get annoyed with yourself for taking 30 shots at a double. Helping others should be our 1st goal even if they are not on our own team. There is no money on the line here, no cars to win for a perfect game or a sponsorship. Attendance 10 years ago in the Regina area was much greater and I am sad to see it so low. I played recently in the Blizzard tourny and a new player to darts from Saskatoon was down with his wife playing and as we were playing each other he became stumped so I asked him if he wanted help and I gave him what I thought would be his best option for going out and the reason why. He thanked me after. I agree with Garnet 100% on these issues. Playing in the provincials or at a global competition level, rules should be inforced. I remember playing at the Sask. open and the queensbury downs building was full of dart players. I hope to see it again.

Lets promote darts in a good way.

By the way good job Darcy and Garnet. Thanks

Just FYI, I'm still waiting for one sheet this week, so I will hold off doing up the stats until I get that sheet (as I've explained before, it's a huge pain to have to do the stats and then redo them all again just to input one sheet). A big thanks to the captains this week. I had 6 out of 7 sheets by Wednesday afternoon! Totally awesome! Keep up the great work!

I will update you when the stats are up. Thanks.

I sent in the sheet on Wednesday... it didn't go thru to you. I sent it in Friday... still waiting to see if it went in, let me know Darc, thanks.

Also, could you update the past champions section to include... it's all below this post, just reminding you! lol

Sorry all, I was away for a short while, but now I am back.

The stats are updated for the past week.

Victor, I got your sheet finally and thanks for the reminder. Feel free to keep reminding me until I do it!

Garnet, I got your messages, I was away, I will call you later today.

Good luck all.

The Webpoll is now working again. Have fun with it.

Wow! By 8:30 on Wednesday morning, I have 6 out of 8 sheets already! Impressive!

Victor - Get you score sheet in. Mr. Dummmaaaaaaaa.

The site is updated. Thank you all for getting your sheets in so quickly this week!

I have decided to leave the web poll up since it wasn't working right for awhile.

Sorry Victor, I didn't get a chance to do up the other stuff. Hopefully next week! Keep reminding me!

Good luck to all!

My sheets in!!! lol... ok Darc i'm reminding you about the usual, is it done yet?

The question of the day... Should we have a match between Steel tip champs and Soft tip champs... some things about that:

1) Which game would we play soft tip of steel, or figure a way to play both in the same match?

2) Who's a steel tip player, and who's a soft tip player, there a number of cross over players in both leagues. Can a player compete against his own team if he's on the champion team of both steel and soft?

3) What about the cricket champions from soft tip, would they be in on this too?

Open feed back on this folks! Lets hear it.

I really like the idea of haveing a steel tip vs soft tip game however what do i do when I win both, how do I play against myself.

Just FYI, the stats will be delayed this week. I am still missing one sheet, and I will be away for most of tomorrow and most of the weekend. I will get the stats done up asap.

Furthermore:

If your team is using a spare that hasn't played before, can you please write their last name on the sheet please? You are actually supposed to forward the following information to me or Pat upon using a new spare:
- full name
- full address
- date of birth
- contact info (phone/email)
The executive has been pretty lenient with this stuff, but it's now becoming a problem. Please ensure that you are helping us out by providing the above info.

It is true that Garnet and I are working on a mixed soft/steel tourney that will probably have the steel tip division champions square off against the soft tip champions of the appropriate division. There are still many details and obstacles that we must overcome before this becomes a reality however. Once we hammer those out, we will definitely do this thing. Your comments will greatly help our decision making, so please feel free to leave any and all comments here.

So far all we know is that each team would play both steel and soft tip games, which ones hasn't been decided yet. Also, it does get a little tricky when determining who is to be considered a steel tip player and who is a soft tip player. Some of it may depend on who wins the championships. If similar teams win both the steel and soft championship, we may have to look at having the 2nd place team play instead. Again, lots of obstacles to overcome, so your comments are not only appreciated, but are very valued.

Chris, when you win both championships, we'll work out some sort of doe score so that you can play yourself!

Edited by author 02-20-2009 04:16 PM
Chris - No, you will not play against yourself, but I am certain that you can play with yourself. LOL

Good one G

Edited by author 02-21-2009 03:47 PM
1 - The site is updated, however, I'm having some problems with my Excel program, so if there are any Excel wizards out there, please feel free to email me so that I can ask you what to do. The problem is that I can't use any of my pull down menus, so I can't change color or edit properly. So if the colors look weird, that'd be why.

the_darcman@hotmail.com

2 - Garnet, in regards to Chris, I was trying not to go there, but I figured someone would.

3 - Chris, can you please email me at the above address?

4 - I didn't bother changing the poll as I am pressed for time today.

5 - New tournament information posted on site.

6 - Vic, keep reminding me! I just never had time to do it today, plus having some Excel difficulties prevented me from carrying out your request.

Good luck to all.

Congrats to Randy Boehm 5 weeks of playing soft-tip darts and he won a trip to Las Vegas.

Hey Darc lol.... this is minor and i know you like to do a bang up job on the site, and you do do that and more but...I'm missing my last name on a number the High/Outs listings as are a few other players. Does that mean we are iconic and everyone should know us by our first name only? lol...ok just pokin' fun bud!

ps. did you get the past records thing straitghtened out yet? ;)

I don't like to shift blame at all, but when I check the site everything is perfect on my end. What browser are you using? It might be a setting that's messing it up. Sometimes it does happen that things look different from one computer to another.

All I can say is that when I update the site, it's all correctly done and filled out. If there are problems after that, it's out of my hands. I can only suggest changing your browser settings. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

On a side note, I got the sheets in early this week (thank you all), and so I will be updating the site shortly. I still have yet to get to the stuff you're looking for Vic, but I swear it's on my list! Just keep on reminding me!

I just wanted to let everyone know that the Knuckleheads and the Urinal Pucks from the soft tip league are holding a fundraiser. It will be held on Mar 7th at Western Pizza Glencairn. It is $25 for all u can drink draft beer from 7 - 10. We will have karaoke going on all night. If you would like some tickets please talk to myself, Drew, Wayne, Garth, or Mike. We can only sell 80 tickets and some have already been sold so get your tickets soon. Hope to see you all there.

Just to keep you in the loop:

- I am still waiting for 2 sheets from A division. The captains have been notified, so hopefully I will get those asap.

- The fundraiser that Chris speaks of is a blast. I fully endorse this night out and it would be nice if steel and soft supported each other's events.

Hey all, I updated the site today to include the following:

- the week 8 stats (minus one score sheet that I didn't get)
- I updated the 'Past Champs/Records' section (you're welcome Vic)
- I fixed the schedule as you suggested Pat

I cannot seem to get the Webpoll working properly, so that never changed.

I have not been able to find time to update the 'Info On Past Years' section, but it's on my list. I Also want to change the 'Past Champs/Records' section to make it look better, however, I don't know when I'll get to it.

I apologize for those of you who should've had your name in lights long ago with some of the recognitions that are on the Past Champs/Records section. I will ensure that delay doesn't happen again.

If anyone has any questions, please feel free to contact me or any member of the executive. Thanks.

Just to keep you all in the loop:

I do have the stats done for this week, however, I am missing an A division sheet from this past week. I got the missing one from week 8, but now I am missing one from this week (Eagles Predators vs. Tippy Canoe). Victor is usually extremely punctual in getting the sheet in, so I'm not sure what happened.

So because we are so close to playoffs and people like to look at accurate stats, I have decided to hold off on updating the site in hopes that I get that missing sheet sometime today.

I will attempt to update the site later today/tonight regardless of if I get that sheet in time. Once the site is updated, I will put a note on here.

Thank you for your patience.

I got the last sheet in, so the site is now updated with full stats for week 9.

Just a word of warning. Because there are so many sister teams, some home games may have to get moved if two teams from different divisions are to host a playoff game. The higher division/ranking will be given priority.

So, for example if both You Tick Me Off (A Division) and Team Phoenix (B Division) are to host a playoff game, priority will be given to the higher division (in this case You Tick Me Off) and Team Phoenix will have to either play on the road or at a neutral site. It is unfortunate, but unless someone has a better idea, this is what we'll have to do. Thanks in advance for your co-operation.

I will advise the locations after the completion of week 10 and the first round of playoffs.

Also, on a side note, should we be able to get the combination soft/steel tournament up and running, it would most likely be held on May 23 at Gaebel's. It would include the A, B, & C steel tip champions playing against their soft tip counter parts. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to email me.

Good luck to all teams in your final week of regular season as you make your playoff runs.

I wanted to try and get the site done before today with the playoffs looming on the horizon, but unfortunately I didn't get the last sheet until this morning. So I am in the process of updating the site now.

Just a few things to point out:

- I have updated the schedules to show the division playoffs, however, there are two situations with the C division.
1 - Both the Serbian Wonders and the Troublemakers ended up tied for 4th place in C. So, I went back and did a head to head score for the 2 times they played each other this session. Serbian Wonders won the head to head matchup 34 - 28, so they are awarded the 4th place spot and will host the first round of playoffs in C.
2 - In the 2nd round of the C division playoffs, both the A division and C division #1 teams play out of the same bar. As I mentioned before, the higher division gets the home location, so the 2nd round of the C division where the winner from week 1 of the playoffs plays against the C division top seed (in this case, Above The Norm) will be played at a neutral site. So, if the Serbian Wonders win, they will play the following week at the Elks against Above the Norm with ATN being the home team. If the Trouble Makers win, it will have to be played at the Legion with ATN being the home team. Clear as mud? Any questions should be directed to me.

- I have also started showing some of the awards for the 'highest wins/winning percentage' per division as these have already been established. If you do not wish to receive a trophy for your accomplishment, please advise me asap as I will be going to order the trophies and 180 pins soon.

- The awards for high outs, 180's, 140's for both men and women are still active until the completion of the playoffs.

- Because the web poll is down, perhaps a discussion on here may be of value instead of a vote. In the past years we have given the division champion their choice of a trophy or a dart shirt or something else that they'd want of equal value. I will be making that same offer this year. Any other ideas/suggestions?

- One other thing: THIS IS IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ!
When you are playing your playoff games, only play until one team has reached 16 wins. You do not have to play all 31 games if you don't want to. As soon as one team has reached 16 wins, the match is over. If you want to continue playing, that's fine, but I'm only accepting 16 wins.

I think that's it for now. I will be updating the site shortly. If there are any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks and good luck to all for the playoffs.

how are you darcy just wanted to see if the semifinal can be played somewhere else broadway western pizza is way to crowded so if you can would be nice to see something done about it its pretty bad in that bar so let me know please and thankyou

Hey Shawn. It's completely up to your opponents as to whether they want to switch venues or not. They earned the right to host the Semi-Final at their bar, so they have every right to keep them there if they wish. Feel free to phone their team captain and see if they wish to make other arrangements. I do agree that it's a bit cramped in there, especially when there's 5 per team, but unfortunately, there's not really anything that can be done about it. We will still have teams playing out of there next season. I will also try to call their team captain, but I am busy tonight and am unavailable for most of tomorrow. So if you want to try, you'll probably get through faster than I would.

Also, because I won't be around, I will just post on here (for now) the winners from this week.

Queen City Kids defeated Double Trouble to advance in A
You Tick Me OFf defeated Eagles Predators (16-15) to advance in A
Glencairn WP#1 defeated Dragons to advance in B
Trouble Makers pulled off the upset and defeated Serbian Wonders to advance in C

I will update the site when I can. Thanks for your patience.

I understand that Broadways is a little cramped but that is our home bar and they do pay full fees for us. This will also be the last week that we will be playing out of there and as a team we feel obligated to play there. I am sorry if this causes any miscomfort or inconvenience. Thanks

I have updated the site to include the stats from week 1 of the playoffs.

Shawn, as you can see by Chris' reply below, your match will still take place at Broadway WP.

Tiffany, your match is presently scheduled to take place at the Legion. However, I will send you an email further to that.

Good luck to all this week!

Just FYI:

C final will be Socia Bulls vs. Above The Norm
B final will be 3 Guys & A Girl vs. The Replacements
A final will be Tippy Canoe vs. ????

I never got the sheet from Queen City Kids vs. Four Horsemen.

I will update the site once I get that sheet. Thanks.

All games to be played at the Elks Club on Tuesday. Spectators welcome.

Who knows what happened to the sheet but the Four Horseman won.

Congratulations to the winners!

A Division - 4 Horsemen (16-14 over Tippy Canoe)
B Division - The Replacements (16-7 over 3 Guys & A Girl)
C Division - Above The Norm (16-15 over Socia Bulls)

Looks like the soft tippers have the edge!

I will update the site when I can. I will keep you all informed of when the final meeting to hand out the trophies will be etc. If anyone doesn't want a trophy, or has any questions, please email me directly. Thanks.

Just wanted to touch base with you all.

Due to the virus that my computer got infected with last week, I have been unable to get to the website etc. I should hopefully have all the problems fixed up soon.

If anyone has any questions, please contact myself or any other member of the executive. Thanks.

Between the virus that I got, the problems with the webpoll on this site, tax season as well as various other things that got in the way, I have not been able to update the site with anything until today.

I was finally able to upload a tournament poster for the '09 Moose Shoot that is happening this weekend. Sorry it took so long to get it on here.

I will do my best to get the rest of the stats on here, but it probably won't be until next week.

I will keep you all posted.

To all steel tip players.

I'd like to extend an invitation to all open minded dart players wishing to challenge themselves. Come and try some soft tip darts...they've shown they can compete in your league, show them you can compete in theirs. Another competitive league night will help you sharpen your throwing, and you'll meet some great people, and have alot of fun nights...maybe even win yourself a trip to 'Vegas!

It was awesome to see so many quality players/teams last season with new and old faces from both the steel and soft tip leagues. I've registered my cricket team for season 1, and hope to see a competitive field again. Cricket is played on Thursday nights, and you can register on the soft tip site reginadarts.com. If anyone is having trouble finding a partner for this seasons cricket "A", please contact Garnet on his site or myself 527 1352 and we'll try and find you a suitable partner.

Best of luck in the upcoming season!

Just wondering when the season starts?

Hello Dart Players,
It will soon be dart season and to start the season the SAsk. DArts Association is holding a steel tip dart tournament in Davidson,Sk on SAturday, Sept 12, 2009. The tournament is in conjunction with the Association's Annual General Meeting. Registration for the events begins at 9:00 A.M.and closes at 9:45 A.M. You must register for both events in the morning. The meeting starts at 10:00 A.M. with the tournament to follow. All dart players welcome. For more information regarding the events go to the Sask. DArts website at www.saskdarts.com
Hope to see you at the meeting
Pat

Edited by author 09-02-2009 09:02 PM
Hey all,

I sent this email to anyone that I could think of, so I'm sorry if there are any cross-postings that see you receiving this more than once.

It's almost time to get ready for the upcoming season and with that, the AGM date has been set.

Tuesday, Sept. 15 7pm downstairs at the Serbian Club

This meeting will include:

- election of new executive

- discussion of the previous season

- discussion of the upcoming season

- preliminary registration of teams (existing and new)

- financial info

- new business/suggestions

There are a few teams who are folding for at least this season. That means that there are several single players looking for teams and if there are any teams looking for single players, then you should mention it at this meeting.

PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO ANYONE WHO IS EITHER ALREADY PLAYING OR WHO MIGHT LIKE TO PLAY IN THE UPCOMING DART SEASON!

If you have any info that I should be aware of, please feel free to email me back.

the_darcman@hotmail.com

Thanks.

Darcy 'Darcman' Antonissen
RSTPDL President

Please note that the start time of the meeting has been changed to 7:30 from 7pm. Same time, same location, just 1/2 hour later. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Please contact me if you require any further information. Thanks in advance for your co-operation.

Hey all, just a reminder that tonight is the deadline for registrations for this season! I still need to hear from one team 'officially', so the following info may change.

We lost 4 teams and gained 3, so we're stuck with an uneven 15 teams. If we go with the 15 teams, here's what I was thinking for divisions.

A Division
Tippy Canoe
You Tick Me Off
Double Trouble
Eagles Predators
The Replacements
 
B Division
Team Phoenix
3 Guys & A Girl
Dragons
Socia Bulls
The Mandus - Randy Boehm's team
 
C Division
Trouble Makers
Legion (if they are in, still need to get confirmation)
Sandra Lamont's team
Richard Mullin's team
Mean Green (Josh Legault's team)
 
If we go with this, then top 2 in each division would move up and the bottom 2 would move down at the Xmas break.
 
As far as scheduling goes though, do I try and have A & B play each other on bye nights, or do it B & C? Or just leave it as byes? Now that there's actually movement in between sessions, wins are a bit more important and I'd hate to see a team move up or down just because they played a team from a higher/lower division and smacked them/got smacked around so hard that they move up/down based on that one night, know what I mean?
 
Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks.

If there ar 15 teams I think that two of the divisions should be even numbers and one division should have the unbalanced shedule. One division of 4, one division of 6, and one division of 5.

Movement of teams - I think with these small number of teams that movement at the mid-point should be only one team.

Im part of a new team entering the league this year...so whatever everyone works out will be just fine with our team!! which is "mean green"

Edited by author 09-29-2009 05:13 PM
If we go with Garnet's idea of a 6, 5 & 4 team divisions, the divisions would look like this:

A (5 teams)
Tippy Canoe
You Tick Me Off
Double Trouble
Eagles Predators
The Replacements

B (6 teams)
Team Phoenix
3 Guys & A Girl
Dragons
Socia Bulls
The Mandus - Randy Boehm's team
Mean Green (Josh Legault's team)

C (4 teams)
Trouble Makers
Legion (if they are in, still need to get confirmation)
Sandra Lamont's team
Richard Mullin's team

There are more average teams in the league, so that's why B is the biggest division. Also, more teams fit into B than in A (although I probably could've put Randy's team in A, and still could I guess)

What do you guys think?

Also, The Shark Tank Billiards (Dewdney Avenue above Habanos) may be able to host a couple of teams. I meet with them on Friday. If there's anyone who wants to play out of there, let me know asap as I will be doing up the schedules tomorrow and may do up a few different ones.

Also, the poster for the Sask. Open is up on the site.

Ok, so we lost another team as the team from the Legion is not returning. The only good thing about that is that it now leaves us with an even amount of teams. The divisions may be a little smaller than what we wanted, but how does this look?

A (6 teams)
Tippy Canoe
You Tick Me Off
Double Trouble
Eagles Predators
The Replacements
The Mandus - Randy Boehm's team

B (4 teams)
Team Phoenix
3 Guys & A Girl
Dragons
Socia Bulls

C (4 teams)
Mean Green (Josh Legault's team)
Trouble Makers
Sandra Lamont's team
Richard Mullin's team

Now, with the smaller divisions, do we want to only move 1 team up and down or two? The good with two is it gives more variety to the A division and gives 2 B teams the opportunity to play in A and get more experience.

But if we move 2 up/down from B/C, then that means that there will not be 1 team left in B at the switch over.

We could go 2 up/down in A/B, and one up/down from B/C. Or one in all divisions.

What do you guys think?