I would >:)....
Maybe if enough people cajoled him to prove he's had SOME art training, he'd reproduce them...;)

Sorry, those pictures were long gone before Gonty started getting a fandom. I've got a collection of rare stuff, but that's a little too rare for me. And do you really want to see Gonter-drawn nudies?

Wanna hear something scary? Gonty has taken figure drawing. Waaaaay back when, he put some of the pictures online. And my reaction was "How did they get mutants to pose for art classes?"

No effing way!!!! Please tell me you have these pictures and can share them with your fellow Gonter-obsessors. The world is suddenly a much more frightening place.

Does anyone besides the almighty Negaduck watch Adult Swim? Is anyone else loving Venture Brothers as much as I am? Is this an appropriate topic for me to babble about?

Wanna hear something scary? Gonty has taken figure drawing. Waaaaay back when, he put some of the pictures online. And my reaction was "How did they get mutants to pose for art classes?"

And on another note of incompetence, today I asked for beta readers for a story of mine. Always helps to get some crits before posting something, y'know? Well, I sent the story out as a zipped text file to someone, who replied thus:

Could u send ur file again, I can't seem to read it its in giberous. just paste it onto the message box then I will paste it to my word doc program {its easier to beta read that way if u have any upjections let me know}

Is it really necessary to post that, to beta read stories, you ought to be at least literate?

Edited by author 08-30-2004 08:29 PM
I seem to remember years ago Gonty having someone kindly suggest that he try taking a figure drawing class, and he went ballistic on them in his old-school/old-meds style.

"Maybe we can hope for a Chinese director to take a run at dramatising 'The Battle of Maldon'."

"...In the land of dark forces, where Gildor was King."
"Oh, yes, the Icelandic Saga. Good, it'n't it?"
No, wait, that was the battle of North Malden. Gateway of industry!

"Wuzzup with Byron?"

His ickiness seems to have coincided with the humid weather. Which is ODD (like him), as the AC's always on and it's quite nice in here. His "PLAY!" button seems to have been turned off. ODD, again, as he's always been nothing but. Kill Kill started slacking off at 18 months, and he's at 14. ODD, really. But maybe all it is is odd. His nose is cold and wet and he seems happy.

Mimi: Well, ok then. Note, of course, that these were the utmost criticisms I could offer your work.

Bill: Good to hear that modern Chinese cinema is fill of the bubbly happy feelings that "Raise the Red Lantern" taught us to expect. Maybe we can hope for a Chinese director to take a run at dramatising "Beowulf" or "The Battle of Maldon".

To hopefully switch direction-- Wuzzup with Byron?

Ah yes, my reluctance to use speech balloons. I do use them in print issues, though.
I'll try and work on making that clearer in the space I've got. Thanks ^_^

Edited by author 08-30-2004 10:53 AM
Dig the caption: "Ah, Aline Rabbit. My Playboy Bunny Android. Some are attracted to her, some are repulsed. There is no other ways around."

I'm not going to do it myself, but perhaps we could give the Gont some wider exposure by recommending his works to http://www.engrish.com

Mimi: Wtf? No, seriously.... what? the? fuck? is? he? babbling? about??
Nice to know his infamous spelling is NOT due to typos, he really does write like that!

It's worth comparing the strange rambling from that page to the strange rambling on one of the foundational documents of scientology. G-devil's got slightly better handwriting than Hubbard, but he's also likely not syphillitic.

For fairness sake: I have never been SHARPLY criticized for As If!, even in a constructively critical way.
I occasionally have to work a little but harder than normal to keep track of dialogue when several of your characters speak. Best/worst I could think of. The Ditko tribute cover rocked hard, although it failed in as much as you're a somewhat better artist than Steve Ditko ;-)

"The Ego is very much attached to the lack of talent. It's like Body Image Dismorphia, where anorexics look in a mirror and see a whale. Davey, amazingly, looks in his sketchbook and sees Carl Barks"

*wipes eyes*
Mimi, you rule!

Edited by author 08-29-2004 12:08 AM
http://foxfirestudios.us/adamorigin.shtml

Well, this answers the 'Davey=Adam' question. Davey makes an 'attempt' to justify his addiction to Self-Inserts.
Oh, what the hey. Mini-MST!
The self-insertion (S-I) technique, where you make yourself into a character in a story, known as a 'Mary Sue,'
I almost think Davey forms an entire SUB-Species of the Gary/Marty Stu phenomenon. He sits somewhere below sphagnum moss, as Chuck might say...
I hesitate to name the SI a writing 'technique'. I prefer 'unimaginative cop-out'

or 'Author Avatar,'
Or 'OH CHRIST, NOT ANOTHER ONE!!!*loud, wracking sob followed by gunshot*

is a popular way for a novice writer to find something to write about, and was a common way to get started on writing for many a writer.
*extremely long snigger* so what's YOUR excuse, pal?

Unforutnately it is very denegrated on in some areas online, and in some places, downright vilified with a venom that borderlines on Fatwah levels.
Oh boo to da NASTY people who prefer their fandoms UNraped by boring, self-absorbed loser OCs!...
Davey should just avoid words over two syllables, I find...

I should know; my first story published on the Internet was a Sonic-themed Self-Insertion called "Blood and Metal"
And I quote, from the above-mentioned magnum opus:
"Oh mah stars, is this guy the biggest hunk yawl ever seen?" Bunnie
Rabbot cried as she snuggled up to Davey's right leg. She only went up to
his thigh, but then she expanded her robot legs and got into his chest.
"And looky here, this one's got some fur! Oh, Sally Girl, grab a limb,
there's enough man here for all of Knothole!"
*ramming fist into mouth to keep from laughing up a lung*

and that story and it's ilk are the reason why some people mention my name with a thumbed-up nose.
CAN YOU BLAME THEM??!! *rofl*
Actually, Davey, a thumbed-up nose would far from do your name justice. I think the least it deserves is a slow, painfully-detailed comparison to cocktail wienies. No, cheese doodles, that's better....

And I totally agree on the Ego, Bill. And he now thinks that just because admits his early stuff is bad and he shrugs off detractors rather than get upset with them makes him noble and Mature?! He still remains deaf to all entreaties that he is STILL NO BETTER! The Ego is very much attached to the lack of talent. It's like Body Image Dismorphia, where anorexics look in a mirror and see a whale. Davey, amazingly, looks in his sketchbook and sees Carl Barks 9_9

I don't know about the rest of you, but the key component of my Gontermania is The Ego. Part of it is his utter lack of any talent for anything, but it's mainly his simultaneous utter and complete belief in his own godhood. That's why after thousands of drawings over a decade, he's shown no improvement. He doesn't need to improve because he thinks that his stuff is comparable to the pros. Better than them, as he's said more than once. Seriously, have you ever seen any other writer or artist who regularly interrupts a narrative so that his made-up characters can praise his nonexistant art skills? It's like Hamlet delivering a soliloquy that begins with, "Whoa, this Shakespeare dude sure writes good, huh?"
(Now ends the only paragraph in the world in which "Shakespeare" and "DVK" will ever appear together in)

And who else is so egotistic that they decided that what the world really needs is an RPG where you get to play Himself?

I've seen sexier pairs of scissors. Yeah, scissors. That's what came to mind when I looked at her legs, anyway.

Dig the caption: "Ah, Aline Rabbit. My Playboy Bunny Android. Some are attracted to her, some are repulsed. There is no other ways around." Well, that's truth in advertizing if you agree that David Gonterman = the second "some."

This is basically Roll Rabbit from his MST Nitro comic after a bottle of hair dye. Pheer the Clinton Jobs.

How can he seriously take pride in that? Most other people would post something like this with the adjunct: "Yeah, I know it sucks, but figures are HARD and I'm still learning".
Nope, not Davey. He seems to feel the need to provide some mythical demand for his stuff.
And boy, check out the feedback DELUGE *cricket noises*

Wow...seXXXy!!!
http://www.deviantart.com/view/10120825/

Oh baby! That's how I like 'em! Cross-eyed with a prosthetic left titty, badly rouged with lipstick on only one corner of their mouths, and keeping a spare cig in their cleavage!

I notice that the main page has a PayPal Donation button. "For: New Computer
Goal: Summer 2004
Amount: $20/$1000"
Current amount: $0. And with only 3 weeks left to Summer, too.

Yayness :) I definitely don't set out to do a pure manga style. My style is a kind of indefinable hybrid - some anime, some western animation, some just my technique. To say it's unique AND good is the best praise I could ask for, thank you :)

Davey is 'unique', too, so that on its own can swing both ways...;)
I believe Copper is supposed to be Adam's father. Or Davey's. But how can you POSSIBLY confuse Adam with Davey?....

(you're right, Negs, this IS too easy...)
Anyway, Copper shows up in several pictures in DVK's sketchbook. He's the Tuxedo Mask clone with the french maid sex slaves.
Can't just about ALL furry artists trace a lineage back to Chuck or Disney? ;)