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Michelle Dawson  9316
06-27-2009 06:26 PM ET (US)
"Science is a method, not a beat" http://thesciencereporter.blogspot.com/200...ethod-not-beat.html from the blog of the Association of British Science Writers.

Here's one paragraph:

"It comes down to this. I don't believe you can properly write about science by just reporting what scientists say and do and write and spend. You have to understand what science is, and what its rules are, and be able to figure out whether any particular discovery or development was arrived at according to those rules. If it wasn't, it is your job either to make that clear, or to withhold publicity from the unworthy research in favour of something better."

In the above, I would use "standards" instead of "rules," and I would note that in most areas (autism intervention research is a striking exception) there is an effort always to develop better standards then to apply them.
Michelle Dawson  9315
06-26-2009 04:49 PM ET (US)
What a good idea. This http://www.aspercentre.ca/home_4.htm University of Toronto centre (associated with the U of T faculty of law) is trying to post online most or all the written arguments ("facta") from what they consider to be "key constitutional cases" at the Supreme Court of Canada. See http://www.aspercentre.ca/constitutional-cases/scc-facta.htm

The list of cases they have so far is here http://www.aspercentre.ca/constitutional-c...lpha-list-cases.htm

I found out about this project through being asked permission to re-post my Auton factum on this site. Of course I said yes. This means that there is at least the possibility of Auton being added to the list of cases. I would really like to see the facta from Eldridge and Eve, among other cases that are not included yet.

I wish a resource like this had existed in 2004 when I was trying to figure out how to write a factum... It looks like starting in 2009, the SCC itself may be posting facta from SCC cases (if I have read this right).
Sharon  9314
06-26-2009 04:14 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the birthday wishes. I had a lovely day.
Philip  9313
06-26-2009 04:04 AM ET (US)
Happy Birthday for yesterday Sharon. I hope you had a great time celebrating with your family.
Michelle Dawson  9312
06-25-2009 11:30 AM ET (US)
Hi Sharon, Happy Birthday! Hope you have a great time celebrating...
jypsy  9311
06-25-2009 07:56 AM ET (US)
Happy Birthday Sharon!
Sharon  9310
06-25-2009 07:39 AM ET (US)
Thanks so much Michelle for your thoughts on ABA as a science. I can see that the decision you have made to treat it as a proper science and critique it as such is the best way of testing it's effects on the lives of autistic people.
The way you've been called "anti-ABA" for this is strange. I can't imagine being called anti-physics for questioning a physicist of my husband being described as anti-pharmacology for questioning the claimed effects of a particular drug.

I'll be out later with the family. It's my birthday today and we're all going to celebrate!
Philip  9309
06-25-2009 05:28 AM ET (US)
News story in the Guardian today about how a disabled young woman is suing the clothing retailer Abercrombie & Fitch for discrimination: http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2009/jun/2...-tribunal-riam-dean .

22-year-old "Riam Dean who was born without her left forearm and has worn a prosthetic limb since she was three months old, is suing [Abercrombie & Fitch] for disability discrimination after she was left 'personally diminished [and]humiliated' when she refused to remove her cardigan at work last summer."

She told the tribunal which is hearing her case: "Abercrombie taught me that beauty lies in perfection, but I would tell them that beauty lies lies in diversity, for I would rather live with my imperfection than to exude such ugliness in their blatant display of eugenics in policies and practices."

Several months before she started work at Abercrombie & Fitch a psychiatrist "described her as 'socially isolated' with an anxiety disorder that reached 'phobic levels' relating to a fear of travelling on public transport."
Philip  9308
06-24-2009 01:22 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-24-2009 01:25 PM
The third of the four Reith Lectures given by Professor Michael Sandel was broadcast on BBC radio on the morning of 23rd June. The subject was Genetics and Morals. Professor Sandel explored how far should we go in using non-genetic technologies to manipulate muscles, mood and gender. There is a transcript here: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rmhttp/radio4/t...ticsandmorality.rtf.

The lecture was followed by questions from the audience.

I didn't hear the broadcast because I will listen to it when it is repeated on Saturday night.
Anarkitek  9307
06-24-2009 10:19 AM ET (US)
re /m9303

Hi Michelle,
The very first time I tried to access the link to the french article it worked then I browsed both pages of the article and now when I try to go back, I am requested a username and password.
Anarkitek  9306
06-24-2009 10:06 AM ET (US)
re /m9301

Hi Alain,
Yes, it sure would do the job but isn't there some news agency somewhere that has already done it?

If so, a simple link would do just fine too.
Michelle Dawson  9305
06-24-2009 05:48 AM ET (US)
All quiet on the rodent front in the past few hours... But somehow this feels ominous, as in, "It's quiet." "Yep, too quiet."
Michelle Dawson  9304
06-24-2009 05:40 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-24-2009 05:41 AM
Finally in response to Sharon ( /m9296 and http://thefamilyvoyage.blogspot.com/2009/0...#c82852606006714015 )... with apologies for taking so long.

ABA is a huge field including areas like traffic safety and Organizational Behavior Management that I don't know much about. There's also the experimental analysis of behaviour (which is not exclusively animal work, but there is a lot of it...). The big questions you raise are good questions to ask, but so far I have been more concerned, as a priority, with specific areas of ABA.

And so far what I've done is take ABA seriously as a science. In my view, autism advocates (including behaviour analysts) have not in fact done this, any more than they have taken autism seriously. And this allows me to bring in recognized standards of science and ethics and see whether they have been applied to autistics in the ABA literature.

This in turn might end up being informative about ABA in general, or at least, more generally than just in the area of autism. In fact I think it has been, but having thought about it, I am not sure making this point is a priority just now (and it might be a distraction).

The problems in the literature re ABA-based autism interventions are [flails around for large enough adjective] enormous, and very serious, and have affected the general area of autism intervention research. This is more the direction in which I've expanded things, so to speak. I see the general question of the quality of autism intervention research, in which the ABA literature has played a pervasive and decisive role, as a big deal, more so than any attempt to tackle the entire edifice of ABA.

I mention Gina Green's inability to tell autism and cancer apart here http://autismcrisis.blogspot.com/2006/11/spotting-difference.html The foreward by Dr Green that I refer to is almost entirely a lengthy claim by her that autism and cancer are exactly the same thing. This is a good example of how behaviour analysts can and do discard any trace of science, and of ethics, in their effort to promote the services they provide.

By the way, I am not disagreeing at all that there are many things which could call into question ABA's status as a science, but I am sticking with areas of ABA where I am well-informed.

In the area of autism, there for sure is evidence that all is not well that extends beyond the very poor quality of the published research. This includes the isolation of behaviour analysts from all other areas of autism science, and the ways in which behaviour analysts have responded to criticism.

As someone who reads a lot, and works in, non-ABA fields of science, I find ABA, at least in the areas I know well, to be strikingly ideological. The numerous, persistent and totally false claims that because I criticize the science and ethics of ABA-based autism interventions, I must be "anti-ABA" (or words to that effect) are very telling in this respect. In contrast, I have never been accused of being "anti-cognitive-science" or "anti-cognitive-neuroscience" even though I have been a much harsher and more effective critic of the scientific and ethical standards in these fields.

In fact long ago (in my distant youth...) I made the error of assuming that my criticism of ABA-based interventions would be responded to, by those promoting ABA-based interventions, in ways consistent with the notion that ABA is a science, rather than an ideology. But of course that has not been the case.
Michelle Dawson  9303
06-24-2009 04:27 AM ET (US)
Re /m9300 , there isn't an existing French version of the G & M article that I know of, yet... I took a quick look around for any French stories about the Raven fMRI paper (Soulieres et al., in press) and only found this http://www.informationhospitaliere.com/act...s-non-autistes.html

While I was looking I also found a Chinese story http://news.ynet.com/view.jsp?oid=53205829 and one in Hungarian http://www.hazipatika.com/services/news?nid=23842
Alain  9302
06-24-2009 02:00 AM ET (US)
re /m9297 hope the critter go away too; let me know if you need help or something...

Alain
Alain  9301
06-24-2009 01:58 AM ET (US)
re /m9300 I'll be in vacation starting in the middle of july so I can translate the article in French and report back; would that do the job?

Alain
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