Alcoa has offered to donate a good sized chunk of land that adjoins MMSP. If and when that happens, Mountain Biking could get in. I haven't heard anything else, but the terrain in MMSP would be awesome from mountain biking....there is also plenty of room for trails.
Tommy
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oops. that's www.biketriad.com

sorry

Also visit www.biketraid.com

Hello out there. This message board seems a bit quiet. I have heard rumor in Greensboro that someone is trying to get the State to allow the building of singletrack at Morrow Mountian State Park. Is this true? Can anyone shed light on that rumor?

Thanks.

BTW, the contact message on the UMBA site seems down. Can anyone check into that as well?

Bud

Hi Jason. I too live in Thomasville and am a mountain biker. Welcome to the city.

Send me your email address and maybe we can get together sometime. Jeff
jeff.miller@tycoelectronics.com

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All trails mountain bike and hiking trails are open to runners. The more the merrier!
Dogs...I think that the USDA Forest Service requires a leash.

If you come during the week, you'll likely have the trails to yourself. I rode last night and did not pass a soul. A few riders finished a few minutes after me.
Tommy
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I am posting here because the UMBA feedback form seems to be broken...

Hi,

I just moved to the area from Salt Lake City, UT and I was pleased to find this web site and to see the progress you are making in building you trail system. I am a mountain biker and ultramarathoner, are the Wood Run Trails also open to runners? What is the policy regarding dogs?

Thanks, and I look forward to hitting the trails.

--
Jason
Soon to be a Thomasville, NC resident

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My link didn't work as expected. When the link opens, select 2007-08 Season Dates.

http://www.ncwildlife.org/fs_index_04_hunting.htm

That's correct, deer season is over until November.

Here's some more information...

The Woodrun trails are in Montgomery County which is in the Central Deer Season.

Here are the Hunting Season Dates from the NC Wildlife Commission:
http://www.ncwildlife.org/fs_index_04_hunting.htm

No hunting on Sundays.

Tommy

Deer season ended Jan 1.


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HUNTING in Uhwarrie?
When does hunting season end so riders can ride without worrying about it? Does anyone know the official date?

Guy,

    Please e-mail me you info and we will keep you informed. Your closest contact will be Brian Bristol over at Middle Ring Cycles.

Chris

Hello Chris,
I am kinda CCed into this message via the site but would be interested in helping with trail work as well. Thanks
GUY
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Chris,

Everything sounds good! I saw your trail work! Very nice! I think that Mark has also been working on the trail.
I plan to attend Feb 9 and March 10 if possible. Let's stay in touch. taylor1529@carolina.rr.com

Tommy



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Lynda and I went out and worked on Keyauwee today. Trail is dry. We worked opening up some of the existing drains and cut in one new waterbar. Brian Bristol and myself will be leading two trail workdays on Feb 10th and March 9th (both Sundays). If you are interested you can respond to me at this e-mail. If Saturdays are better, please respond with that also. Maybe I can lead a group on a Saturday. Informationon the trail workdays should be posted on the kiosk at the trail and on Middleringcycles.com Tommy, would you send me your e-mail?? I haven't talked to you alot since the last time Don was around, but would like your help in some of these projects. One final note, Brian is going to be trying to re-start UMBA soon, details to come....
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Ride the road to the top of Supertree and back down to Woodrun Camp. Ride Keyauwee the same way; up the main road and back to the camp. These directions give you the most singletrack downhill.
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How wet was the trail??

It will be dry on Saturday.

Tommy

Was thinking of riding there SAT.
Best direction is counterclockwise, Wood Run Camp to Supertree to Keyauwee return to Wood Run Camp. No other LEGAL SINGLETRACK exists. I have poached the Uwharrie Trail to Keyauwee a few times but like I said it is not legal.How wet was the trail?? I am glad deer season is over... Later guys
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What's the best way to ride these trails, taking in as much singletrack as possible? I've ridden Supertree and Kewauyee a couple times in the past, which were great, but haven't done any others. Thanks,

I rode on Wednesday evening. Conditions were good. I didn't find the leaves to be a problem.
Deer season is over.
Tommy


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Leafy gooey
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Just wondering what the trail conditions are like this time of year. Thinking of riding on Saturday. Any comments are helpful? Thanks.

It's a rideable fire road that we hope to add to the system one day. We'll have to have an archeological study before the Forest Service will consider adding it.


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Check with the UMBA guys or whatever they call it. There seems to be NO REAL concerted effort on the bikers part to expedite the trail process. The Forest Service is simply another government Agency that converts energy to solid waste, you cannot expect them to move fast with anything that holds little promise of a monetary return for them. However, check this months Dirt Rag issue #132. There is talk of a IMBA sponsored ride center in North Carolina to be built at Uwharrie. page 70 of Dirt Rag #132 Access section. In reading this I do not believe that this is accurate as there is no real dedicated and active MTB club, no real vibrant downtown and in my opinion not a current demand in that area.I will check out IMBA to read up on that. If in fact this is going on I more than likely believe that they have Uwharrie confused with the USNWC Whitewater Center in Charlotte aka Riverfront Park. Everything mentioned in the article is present in that area. My suggestion if you want some more mountain and woods riding go to Dark Mountain. Afterwards grab a bite to eat at the Chli Verde if you like Mexican. Later
GUY
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Speaking of the proposed trails. Is there anything us humble MTB can do to help speed up the process. It only takes a couple of primitive tools, and maybe a chainsaw. Just kidding....I am just impatient. Meanwhile I will continue to hang out up here at Owl's Roost, and hobby park.

More than likely its the Dutchmans Creek hiking trail. Dutchmans something or another-- that I do remember.Given the glacial pace of new trail approval in the Uwharrie Forest it almost certainly cannot be a new biking trail. That said though, the trail does receive bicycle traffic. When confronted by anyone you can simply say I am sorry, I must be turned around back here or my fave. No entiendo, no habla Ingles. Ride On
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Edited by author 11-23-2007 08:00 PM
I rode the Wood Run trails today. Lots of fun. Question, though. I started the Supertree trail from the Wood Run Camp. After passing the power lines the 2nd time it turns into double track and after a little way there's a trail to the left. It doesn't appear marked, but it's definitely a trail as it was well ridden and had man-made bridges. This trail looped back to the Wood Run Camp without going back to the Wood Run Road as the map appears to take it. Am I reading the map wrong or is this a new trail that is not on the map? Also, there are a couple proposed trails on the map. Are they completed yet?

No one manages trail closure. It drains quickly.
If it rains Thursday, you're OK on Friday.
Conditions are good. I rode on Sunday...
Deer season is open; hunting is legal in the Uwharrie National Forest.
Tommy


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Weather report shows 50% chance of rain on Thursday. I want to ride Friday. Do the trails drain well? Does anyone manage trail closure? Thanks for any information.

--John

One must beware of what is known as BUCK FEVER. That typically is worst the first and last weeks of GUN SEASON.Nuff other places to ride that are less dangerous. 1. Charlotte Whitewater
2. Itusi ,kinda boring
3 Dark Mountain
4 Hobby Park
5 Fisher River Park
Try Em
GUY
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I don't ride during gun season...except on Sunday's. Long ago, I rode about midday on Saturday. I would never ride just before dark.

My deer hunting friends who live near the Uwharrie advise me to never to go in the woods during gun season. They always hunt on private land from a stand. They say that there are many novice hunters in the Uwharries.
Tommy



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During the gun season, it's safest to wear bright colors, travel in groups, and stay on the trails. Riding on Sundays is usually pretty safe, as no one is supposed to hunt on Sunday.

The trails are not closed because of hunting season.

Don

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Any concerns riding UMBA trails during deer hunting season?

Uwharrie has a few long semi steep climbs. but otherwise quite fun.Yes by all means enjoy. GUY
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If you ride Keyauwee and Supertree, it's 11+ miles including the trip down Woodrun road to get there. You'll run into a number of uphills/downhills; one may be a mile long....but nothing like the NC Mountains to the west. It's in the Uwharrie National Forest....and is marked with royal blue blazes.

www.childrey.com

http://www.rideumba.com/woodrun.html

Tommy




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I'm going from NJ to Myrtle Beach in a week, and I thought I’d make a stop in the area to do a little mountain biking. Would someone be good enough to recommend a place to go if you only have time for one place? I'm somewhat a skilled rider but a little out of shape because I haven't gotten out enough this year. so, I'm looking to avoid long steep mountain climbs. wharrie looked pretty cool on trianglemtb.com. Any thoughts?

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Skyrock is currently closed. It was flagged and had some work done on it 2 or 3 years ago, but is not rideable. We are waiting on an archaeological study to be done so that we can apply to the USDA Forest Service. Brian at Middle Ring Cyclery in Albemarle knows more.

Tommy


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been in 6 days in 14, trails are in good shape, little wet now,
does any one have any information on what is going to happen with the "Skyloop" trail?

Brian Bristol, Lynda Campbell, and myself completed a second workday out at the XTERRA course this past Sat, April 14. We cleaned Blackburn and Kaitlyn. Some log work is needed on the Short trail back to Greg. We had worked on the start of the loop a couple of weeks ago. The trail is in pretty good shape already. We haven't had a good opportunity to look at any drainage issues yet, most of our work has been concentrated on downfall and overgrowth. The trail is rideable in it's current form. If you would be interested in working on the trail or volunteering for the race on May 6th, please contact Middle Ring Cycles. We can point you in areas that you could work on by yourself, if you only have a little time to devote or can't make any of the trail work days.

Chris Green
christophertg@yahoo.com
Sandhills Cycling Club

Trails were in great shape on Saturday (Mar 31). I liked riding Keyauwee clockwise. Others might not agree with that but I enjoyed it. That first climb was a bear but doable however the long descent down the gravel road was awesome. The following singletrack climb wasn't so bad and the creek crossings were refreshing.

The Badin Lake Group campground was in great shape. Showers had hot water and the site was clean. The bathrooms could have been a bit less smelly but that's hard to achieve with just a hole in the ground for bio-waste.

Was over at Badin Lake campground a few years back and found it very dirty and in poor repair Beer bottles and worm containers everywhere. Has this improved?? I hope so..
GUY

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We are also going to be in the Badin Lake area this weekend, at Arrowhead campground. It's a pretty nice campground. (never have stayed in Badin) Anyway, at the race we had at Wood Run this weekend, Brian Bristol the owner of Middle Ring Cycles talked to me about lots of trail opportunities that have recently opened up in that area (the ORV area and Badin Lake Area) I'm going to go over there this weekend to scope it out and ride it also. He is putting on an XTERRA race there May 6. Anyway, I will be e-mailing people about working these trails into riding shape. This area should have awesome potential. Get up with Brian or you can e-mail me back at this address for coming info... Have fun this weekend, maybe see ya on the trail!
Chris Green
Sandhills Cycling Club
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Beer's available in Troy and Albemarle. Albemarle has a better selection of eating places...but Troy's OK. They may have beer at the Outpost http://www.eldoradooutpost.com/ ....a very helpful group... also check Donnie Mullinex's store

You've probably already been here....

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I'm with a group from the Raleigh area that's coming up to ride the trails this weekend (Mar 31 and April 1). The trails sound like they're in excellent shape so we're looking forward to the ride!

We're camping in the Badin Lake area.

If anybody has suggestions on routes, places to get beer, or other info, let me know.

rewound98@gmail.com

Thanks.

Yes,
I was there Sunday and the conditions were great. I hope Sandhills gets enough Porta Johns @ the trailhead Sunday. I do not want to do the bear in the woods thing again. Way to go Sandhills!!. First creek crossing was a little deep but it just kinda adds to the fun. Where is this so called Whitetail trail?? Heard of some people riding it but do not know where.
GUY

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I don't have any recent pics but I just rode Keyauwee, part of Supertree, and a fire road...conditions were excellent.

If you're asking what trail maintenance is needed.
There has been a lot of erosion of the fire road sections, but it doesn't interfere with riding. There are some wet spots that need draining. The biggest creek on Keyauwee needs some rock work...but it's very rideable.
Where are those creek rock experts from Charlotte, Greensboro, or Winston?...they did a great job about 2 years ago on the creek bed. Lately a high volume of water caused a little erosion.


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how are conditions 3/20/07 also any pics of trails?

I don't have anything specific that I want to work on. I ride alot on those trails, and just want to be able to contribute. I will keep my eye out on the website.
I rode on Sunday, and the trail conditions where good.

Thank You Tommy,
I try my best to be a good trail steward. Yeah, there were the usual suspects as far as soft spots on the trail(s). Overall though, I think thats the best I have ever ever seen the trail as far as upkeep and maintenance. Good job to whoever, they did whatever needed to be done but did not go so far as to sanitize the trail of its technical
features as has happened at Hobby Park in Winston and Tanglewood and Owls Roost in G-Boro.
I hope to make it out to ride down your way again soon.
GUI

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Your bag was still intact...good job. I think there was some kind of event in the parking lot...I saw a port a john not long ago...They pick up every several weeks....and that usually takes care of it, but an event will overload.

There are a number of spots on the trails where the water runs down the trail instead of across it; these places need the lower sides trimmed so that water can "sheet" across. Riding conditions are excellent.


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When did they put a trash receptacle in the Wood Run Parking Lot?? I cleaned up the mess left by a whole bunch of inconsiderate people but could not take the bag due to the stench. Sorry, I was not driving back to Winston with that in the back. Why put a Trash can if no one is going to empty it?? Typical Forest Service thinking..
Trail conditions were great today (Sunday) No maintenance needed.
GUI..

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Shawn,

There's no trail work scheduled. We'll post here when we do schedule one. We'll also put a notice on the websites below.

Is there anything specific that you want to work on?

http://www.rideumba.com/

http://www.middleringcycles.com/forum/index.cfm



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I believe this plan also calls for a small user fee of 2.00 per person for use of the Wood Run Trail system like the one currently in use in Tsali. One must remember that the logging activities in place on public lands/ forests are nothing more than a subsdized welfare program for the less fortunate of the local populations. It is not driven directly by market demand or direction. Toursist driven economics are a lot harder to try to employ or involve SOME of the less educated or motivated of the local populations. As such it will be difficult to overcome the MORE TRADITIONAL USES philosophies ie Logging, Hunting etc. It is an ingrained mindset that will be difficult to overcome.

This plan sounds great for the entire area. I hope this means know more logging in the area. They are really stripping away the area, and some places look aweful.

I am looking forward to the expansion of the MTB trails. Does any one know when a planned trail maintenance day will be??

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Uwharrie National Forest Proposed Land Management Plan Available for Public Review and Comment
The Uwharrie National Forest Proposed Land Management Plan is now available for public review and comment. The Proposed Plan is the result of a collaborative effort among the USDA Forest Service, numerous members of the public, and other local, state, and federal agencies.
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3. Providing outstanding and environmentally friendly outdoor recreation opportunities, with excellent trails and facilities: Our focus for this program would be on improving the conditions of the horse and off-highway vehicle trails in the Badin Lake area and working to complete the Uwharrie National Recreation Trail.
Another big change called for in the Proposed Plan is the designation of 32 Special Areas on the Uwharrie National Forest, comprising a total of 5,391 acres, including areas with unique or rare botanical, zoological, geological, historical and archeological, scenic and/or recreational values. They also include the best examples of more commonly encountered ecological systems, such as intact oak/hickory forests.
People may submit comments on the Proposed Plan for a 90 day period starting February 15th. The Proposed Plan, along with several related documents, is available electronically at:
http://www.cs.unca.edu/nfsnc/uwharrie_plan/.
Hard copies of the Proposed Plan or any other of the other documents may be requested by e-mail at:
comments-southern-north-carolina@fs.fed.us;
Or, make a written request to:
Proposed Land Management Plan
NFsNC/Uwharrie National Forest
160A Zillicoa Street
Asheville, NC 28801
A final decision on the Proposed Plan is expected in the Fall of 2007.
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> Simple question: When does hunting season end???

The last day of deer season in Uwharrie is Jan. 1. MTB season starts on Tues. Jan. 2, 2007.

Note: There is no hunting on Sundays.

I feel your pain.

Trail conditions are good on Keyauwee and Supertree.

Tommy

Simple question: When does hunting season end??? I want to ride Uwharrie on a Saturday, but not while the bullets are flying. I have a WRC hunting schedule, but it's confusing me because there are different dates for different counties and different animals and different guns (or bows and arrows). Sheesh. Can someone tell me when it will be relatively "safe" to ride on a Saturday? Thanks!

Shawn,

We need you!

You can get more information from

http://www.childrey.com/umba/

http://www.middleringcycles.com/

Tommy


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http://www.cs.unca.edu/nfsnc/recreation/uwharrie/

http://www.hikercentral.com/metros/10620.html

http://www.co.stanly.nc.us/

http://centralparknc.org/

http://www.childrey.com/ulrtg.html

http://www.childrey.com/umba/

http://www.middleringcycles.com/

Mike,

You can camp in the Woodrun area. Check the top link or call the Uwharrie National Forest HQ for more information. There are no facilities there...except for an outhouse. Sometimes the gate is locked but once again, contact the UNF. Deer season begins in Mid November...then I only ride on Sundays...no hunting. The UNF has camping with facilities 10 miles north of the Woodrun area.

Tommy


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I am looking to head to this area for the first time shortly. I am wondering if there is camping of any kind allowed in this area so I will not have to do a lot of driving in and out. I want to do a weekend outing this fall. Any suggestions would be welcome.

Hello everyone, I am new to the area. However, I have been riding on the trails for awhile. These trails are great. I am looking to get involved in helping to maintain the trail system.

Knife found on Keyauwee this past Sunday. Mark of Thomasville said that he spoke to a rider from the Fort Bragg area who was looking for the knife.

Tommy

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Ok, thanks for the update.

> I haven't been on the trails in quite awhile. Was wondering if
> the Skyrock trail has been completed and if any of the other
> proposed trails on the website are done? Looking forward to
> coming out in a week or two.

Allan, Skyrock is not open...none of the other proposed trails are open...we are working with the USDAFS on these proposed trails. Keyauwee and Supertree are in good condition. Someone has done some nice rock work on the big log and on the bottom of the big creek...on Keyawuee.

Note: Although you cannot ride on Skyrock or the hiker trails, you can ride on any of the fire roads in the area.

Check at Middlering Cycles in Albemarle for updated trail news.

I haven't been on the trails in quite awhile. Was wondering if the Skyrock trail has been completed and if any of the other proposed trails on the website are done? Looking forward to coming out in a week or two.

Thanks.

I am not for certain, but I will be there if possible. Yes...bring tools...Brian Bristol will know more details....hopefully he'll read this and post.

> EMail: brianbristol@middleringcycles.com
> Phone: 704-322-3559
> Toll Free - 1-877-MDL-RING
> Web: www.MiddleRingCycles.com
open 10-6

I'm going to inspect the trails...hope to see you on Saturday.

Tommy & Don,
I'll try and make it down there. If I can pull it off and to help my wife I may bring one of the kids with me. Should I birng some tools?


Regards,
Gifford

From: QT - Don Childrey <qtopic+27-j5jTbnpufAwXT@quicktopic.com> Reply-To: QT topic 27-j5jTbnpufAwXT <qtopic+27-j5jTbnpufAwXT@quicktopic.com> To: QT topic subscribers <qtopic+subs@quicktopic.com>
Subject: UMBA trail conditions and updates
Date: 14 Jun 2006 19:10:05 -0700
>--QT------------------------------------------------------------- > Reply by email or visit > http://www.quicktopic.com/27/H/j5jTbnpufAwXT/m59 >-------------------------------------------------------------- -- > >From Middle Ring Cycles ( www.middleringcycles.com - the new >bike shop in Albemarle, NC - just minutes from the trailhead): > >Trail Work Day - June 17, 2006 - 10AM to 2PM > >Want to give back??? Help Frank Murray, the Uwharrie Wheelmen >and UMBA clean up the Woodrun Trail System and set out flags for >5 new routes. Yep 5, you know like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. That would >make 7 total trails to create a network of routes from. Can you >say Epic! However we need your help so we can turn the routes >and plans over to the USFS for public approval. > >Deborah Walker is the USFS Ranger and is extremely helpful with >keeping our interests in order. The ball is in our court now. > >If you would like to voice your interest in seeing improvements >on new and existing trails the Uwharrie USFS # is 910-576-6391 >_________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe: http://www.quicktopic.com/27/X/j5jTbnpufAwXT >Start your own topic in 20 seconds: http://www.quicktopic.com |QT

From Middle Ring Cycles ( www.middleringcycles.com - the new bike shop in Albemarle, NC - just minutes from the trailhead):

Trail Work Day - June 17, 2006 - 10AM to 2PM

Want to give back??? Help Frank Murray, the Uwharrie Wheelmen and UMBA clean up the Woodrun Trail System and set out flags for 5 new routes. Yep 5, you know like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. That would make 7 total trails to create a network of routes from. Can you say Epic! However we need your help so we can turn the routes and plans over to the USFS for public approval.

Deborah Walker is the USFS Ranger and is extremely helpful with keeping our interests in order. The ball is in our court now.

If you would like to voice your interest in seeing improvements on new and existing trails the Uwharrie USFS # is 910-576-6391

Dan,

trail conditions are good.

Tommy
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Big game hunting season ended Jan 2. There may still be some small game (squirrel, etc) hunters out there, but it's hard to mistake a cyclist for a squirrel, so I'd say we're pretty safe.

Enjoy this non-winter-like weather while you can!

Don

>
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I know you mentioned that deer season is over. So, is it safe to ride during the week?

THanks,
Dan Alion, Tarheel Trailblazer, Charlotte

thanks for the update . . . and hard work!

QT - Tommy Taylor wrote:

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Trail Conditions on Keyauwee and Supertree are excellent. The Walker Mountain Road section has been mowed, I guess as a fire break. They moved the big downed tree off of the road bed. There are some wet spots, but trail work in recent years has reduced the number. Drainage work done in Nov./Dec. has made a positive difference! Deer hunting season is over...let the games begin!

There will be an adventure race in the Uwharries on March 11...more information at http://www.childrey.com/bushwhackadv/



MTB and Running Races will be held in Woodrun trails on March 26, 2006....see Sandhills Cycling club's web page for more information: http://www.dirtycycling.com/club/news.php

If dry enough, the trails are in good condition. I couldn't find info about dogs on the Uwharrie NF website. Keyauwee is drier than Supertree. There is no hunting on Sundays and the last day of deer season is Jan. 2, 2006.

Tommy

How are the trails currently? I will driving through there the 30th and then again on the 2nd. Are dogs allowed? Thanks!

12/4 should be good for me.

Gifford
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Although we had a small turnout on 11/20, UMBA managed to make some significant progress towards improving drainage on Keyauwee. We installed a half dozen or so turnouts along the trail descending from the north end of Dennis Mtn down to Moonshine Creek. It was just in time too! I'm sure today's rain put our work to the test!!

If you can, make plans to come out on 12/4 for some final year end maintenance efforts and great riding.

Don

The Trail Care Day previously scheduled for 11/13/05 has been rescheduled for 11/20/05. There will also be another Trail Care Day on 12/4/05. Visit www.ride.umba for more details.

Before the wet season returns, we'll try to take care of a few spots where drainage is becoming an issue. We'll also get a chance to ride the trails in the process. Come out and help us show support for mountain biking in the Uwharries!
Let us know if you have any questions!

Don

Question: Is it safe to ride the trails during hunting season?

We usually recommend that riders stick to Sunday's, when there isn't supposed to be any hunting. It's a good idea to wear some blaze orange, and to ride in groups if possible, any time during hunting season. If you do end up riding on other days, try to avoid being out on the trails at dawn and dusk when visibility isn't so great.

There haven't been any hunter/rider incidents that I'm aware of. It's usually just the hunters shooting each other or themselves by accident.

Don

http://www.cs.unca.edu/nfsnc/uwharrie_plan/

October 11 results are on the above website.

See Oct. 11 Meeting Minutes and "Potential Desired Conditions and Group Review"...line #42 under Outdoor Recreation Trails ....

Tommy

Uwharrie National Forest Management Plan Revision is Underway...Meeting Oct. 11...my notes...NEXT MEETING OCT. 24. If you can't come, you may want to email or mail your wishes to the forest service...see below.

The purpose of the meeting was to tell the forest service what "desired conditions" we want in the next ten year plan. There were several hundred suggestions. The attendees then used a score sheet to rate or make notes on each suggestion. I submitted: "Increase the amount of mountain bike trails in the UNF." This process will go on through December. It will take another year to finalize the plan. The Oct. 24 meeting will be about DESIRED CONDITIONS...PART II. I think that our job is to narrow down or pin point the objectives.
 
They welcome emailed comments to comments-southern-north-carolina@fs.fed.us or mailed comments to Planning - Uwharrie, PO Box 2750, Asheville, NC 28802.
 
the Contact Information Website is http://www.cs.unca.edu/nfsnc/uwharrie_plan/

The Uwharrie National Forest Management Plan Revision is Underway...Meetings Oct. 11 and 24...details below.

I plan to attend both meetings.

Tommy

Minutes, handouts, PowerPoint and results from the September Kickoff meetings will be posted on our website: http://www.cs.unca.edu/nfsnc/uwharrie_plan/

Next Step - Two Desired Condition Working Meetings

Plan to Attend Both

Check out the information from the September meetings (on the revision website) to prepare for the October meetings!!!
WHEN: Tuesday, October 11, 2005
6:00 PM - 9:00 PM
Desired Conditions Part I
Resource Specific
WHERE:
First Bank
341 North Main Street
Troy, NC


 

AND
 

 

 

Monday, October 24, 2005

Desired Conditions Part II

6:00 PM - 9:00 PM

Place Specific
 

 

Troy/Montgomery Senior Center

200 Park Road

Troy, NC

 

Need more information? Call Ruth Berner, Forest Planner, at (828) 257-4862, or e-mail rberner@fs.fed.us. Hope to see you there!

Trail Care Day Scheduled for November 13, 2005
9:00 AM - We will meet at the Uwharrie National Forest Parking Lot 1.5 miles east of the bridge over Lake Tillery/Pee Dee River on 24/27. The parking lot is located 11 miles east of Albemarle and 9 miles west of Troy on 24/27.

Bring your bike, water, lunch, gloves. We plan to ride bikes to the work area, and do a ride afterwards.

Tommy

> I met you at Uwharrie a couple of months ago. Has any progress
> been made in opening new trails? I recall you saying that the
> Skyrock trail was nearing completion. I know one of the
> geologists who was digging on it and he supposedly is finished
> with the field work. How about the other loops?

Rich,

In the last several months, we haven't had any formal workdays so there has been no progress. Our next step is to consult with the USDA National Forest Service ranger in Troy. We are waiting on an archaeological study before we go back to Skyrock. Skyrock was flagged and raked several years ago but no work since then. It would take a lot of hours to make it a good ride. It's got a lot of potential. It would be a real lung buster. Email me direct at taylor1529@carolina.rr.com.

Tommy

Tommy

Hi Tommy,

I met you at Uwharrie a couple of months ago. Has any progress been made in opening new trails? I recall you saying that the Skyrock trail was nearing completion. I know one of the geologists who was digging on it and he supposedly is finished with the field work. How about the other loops?

Thanks,
Rich

No hunting on Sunday's
Bow Sep 10-Nov 4
Muzzleloader Nov. 5-11
Gun Nov.12-Jan 2

I generally only ride on Sunday from Nov. 5 to Jan 2. Instead, I ride on the PAVED roads at Morrow Mountain State Park...just across the river. If you park at the gate, ride to the top of Morrow Mountain, then through all of the campgrounds, and to the Kron House, then to the Pee Dee River, you get about 11 miles with lot of hills...300 feet elevation at the river to 900 feet at the top. Auto traffic is usually light and slow; you'll usually see more deer than cars.

http://www.ils.unc.edu/parkproject/visit/momo/home.html

> Hey guys,
>
> Wondering if anyone had rode the trails in the past week or so
> and could give a report? Last time I went, probably in June,
> they were a little grown up.. Not complaining though!! That
> grass and those tree limbs grow quick!! I'm about 30 miles away
> so don't want to go that far and be dissapointed.

The briars are trimmed back as are the face slapping branches...fallen trees have been cut off the trail. On several fire road sections, weeds are moving in towards the center. This is normal for August/September. Frost will knock them down. I ignore the weeds but not the briars. Trail conditions are good.

Tommy

Hey guys,

Wondering if anyone had rode the trails in the past week or so and could give a report? Last time I went, probably in June, they were a little grown up.. Not complaining though!! That grass and those tree limbs grow quick!! I'm about 30 miles away so don't want to go that far and be dissapointed.

Rob

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Tommy,

It now sounds like I'll be heading to Owl's Roost in Greensboro. If we do go to the Forest it will be around 11 AM, but most likely Greensboro.

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Gifford,

No....but lots of convincing the foliage to backup. Let me know what time you are going and I'll ride with you if possible.

Tommy 704 983 1924


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Tommy,
I'm thinking of maybe riding this Sunday. How is that new trail that we worked on? Has any more work been done to the trail?

Regards,
Gifford

>From: QT - Tommy Taylor <qtopic+27-j5jTbnpufAwXT@quicktopic.com> >Reply-To: QT topic 27-j5jTbnpufAwXT <qtopic+27-j5jTbnpufAwXT@quicktopic.com> >To: QT topic subscribers <qtopic+subs@quicktopic.com> >Subject: UMBA trail conditions and updates >Date: 10 Aug 2005 14:13:28 -0700 > >--QT------------------------------------------------------------- > Reply by email or visit > http://www.quicktopic.com/27/H/j5jTbnpufAwXT/m33 >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >Hi Gifford: Yes >_________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe: http://www.quicktopic.com/27/X/j5jTbnpufAwXT >Start your own topic in 20 seconds: http://www.quicktopic.com |QT

Hi Gifford: Yes

Tommy, did you get in touch with Boomer from the Montgomery newspaper?

Regards,
Gifford

>From: QT - Tommy <qtopic+27-j5jTbnpufAwXT@quicktopic.com> >Reply-To: QT topic 27-j5jTbnpufAwXT <qtopic+27-j5jTbnpufAwXT@quicktopic.com> >To: QT topic subscribers <qtopic+subs@quicktopic.com> >Subject: UMBA trail conditions and updates >Date: 10 Aug 2005 09:57:37 -0700 > >--QT------------------------------------------------------------- > Reply by email or visit > http://www.quicktopic.com/27/H/j5jTbnpufAwXT/m31 >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >Trail conditions are good. There is one large tree across the >trail on Walker Mountain Road. It can be ridden over by advanced >riders; It's in plain sight. Several smaller trees are down on >Supertree counter-clockwise just past the power line >right-of-way. All are rideable. There are very few briars in >the way. > >Tommy >_________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe: http://www.quicktopic.com/27/X/j5jTbnpufAwXT >Start your own topic in 20 seconds: http://www.quicktopic.com |QT

Trail conditions are good. There is one large tree across the trail on Walker Mountain Road. It can be ridden over by advanced riders; It's in plain sight. Several smaller trees are down on Supertree counter-clockwise just past the power line right-of-way. All are rideable. There are very few briars in the way.

Tommy

Tommy Taylor:

 Thanks for ALL the great info! Helmets off to you my friend!

 Lee

Hey, here's the scoop on Uwharrie. Years ago they had scores of trails for bikers, now the only stretch they have (specifically) for bikers is about thirteen miles of good singletrack. You may however, ride on all of the jeep and ATV trails you desire. I cannot comment on the length or condition of them. As for maps, I would look online. I really don't know where else to tell you. As for shops, I would access a phonebook for that area online as well. I'm at Ft. Bragg and couldn't tell you what shops, if any, they have up there. On the other hand, you may want to consider hitting the trails around Greensboro area. I don't know them personally, but have talked to two experienced riders who spoke highly of them. Additionally, there are great reviews and links for those trails (including lots of photos) , on mtbr.com That's where I went looking for my information about the Greensboro trails, aside from meeting those two riders I mentioned. I am originally from WNC, and if you can tell me exactly where you'll be staying the weekend, I may be able to make some other, more specific recommendations about trails. One other thing, you don't need a permit to ride Uwharrie. Drop me a line if you want, maybe I can help. Happy trails. Landon

>From: QuickTopic daily digest <qtopic+27-j5jTbnpufAwXT@quicktopic.com> >To: valentinelandon@hotmail.com >Subject: UMBA trail conditions and updates >Date: 24 May 2005 04:18:03 -0000 > >--QT------------------------------------------------------------- > Messages for the topic "UMBA trail conditions and updates" for 05-23-2005. > Reply by email or visit > http://www.quicktopic.com/27/H/j5jTbnpufAwXT > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >From: Proformnace Cycle Time: 10:18 PM > Hi: > > I'm planning on visiting your area this weekend May 28th to May >31st. Can I mt bike ride at the Uwharrie nat forest? I am from >PA. > Do I need a permit? Where can I get maps? Where is the local >bike shop closest to the trail? Do I need any special gear? > > Thanks for your time > > Lee >------------------------------------------------------------ >_________________________________________________________________ >Start your own topic in 20 seconds: http://www.quicktopic.com |QT

> Do I need a permit? Where can I get maps? Where is the local
> bike shop closest to the trail? Do I need any special gear?

Lee,

Yes, you can ride in the Uwharries, no permit needed..no special gear...trail conditions are good. Maps are available at www.rideumba.com and at the trailhead. The trails are blazed with blue blazes. There is an information board at the parking lot.

Here's a list of "nearby" bike shops...Right Gear in Kannapolis is probably the closest. I believe that Southpark Cycles rents Mountain Bikes.
I pasted more information and a map below the bike information. Email me for more information.

Bike Shops
      BICYCLE SPORT 2902 Selwyn Ave.
      Charlotte, NC 28209
      (704) 335-0323 smoot@ultimatebike.com
      http://www.bicycle-sport.com/
      BICYCLES EAST of MATTHEWS 195 North Trade Street
      Matthews, NC 28105
      (704) 814-7433 www.bikeseast.com
      BICYCLES SOUTH 8914 Pineville-Matthews Rd.
      Charlotte, NC 28226
      (704) 542-6379
     http://www.bicyclessouth.com bicyclessouth@perigee.net
      BIKE GALLERY, THE 2500 Park Rd.
      Charlotte, NC 28203
      (704) 332-2165
      BIKE LINE 1001-I W. T. Harris Blvd.
      Charlotte, NC 28213
      (704) 549-8804
     www.charlottebikes.net
      BIKE SOURCE 4301-A Park Rd.
      Charlotte, NC 28209
      (704) 525-8410
     www.bikesourceonline.com
      BOLT BROTHERS CYCLES 111 East North Main St.
      Waxhaw, NC 28173
      (704) 843-2375 www.boltbrotherscycles.com
      COOL BREEZE CYCLERY 170 N. Main
      Mooresville, NC 28115
      CYCLESPORT 2144 Carolina Place Dr
      Fort Mill, SC 29708 www.cyclesportinc.com
      CYCLING & FITNESS, THE SCHWINN PLACE 411 E. Franklin Blvd.
      Gastonia, NC
      GITA SPORTING GOODS 12600 Steele Creek Rd.
      Charlotte, NC 28273 www.gitabike.com
      INTERNATIONAL BICYCLE & MOPED 5326 E. Independence Blvd.
      Charlotte, NC 28212
      (704) 535-5501
      RIDE-A-BIKE BICYCLE SHOP 116 NE Court Square
      Lincolnton, NC 28092
      (704) 735-1746
     www.rideabike.com
      RIGHT GEAR, THE 863 Cloverleaf Plaza
      Kannapolis, NC 28083
      (704) 786-2453
     www.rightgear.net
      SOUTHPARK CYCLES 5121. South Blvd.
      Charlotte, NC 28217
      (704) 522-7006 http://www.southparkcycles.com/
      ULTIMATE BICYCLE & FITNESS - Matthews 1636 Sardis Road North - Suite 170
      Matthews, NC 28270
      (704) 841-1044 mike@ultimatebike.com
      www.ultimatebike.com
      ULTIMATE BICYCLE & FITNESS - PINEVILLE 601-A N. Polk St.
      Pineville, NC 28134
      (704) 889-7420 dan@ultimatebike.com
      www.ultimatebike.com
      UNIVERSITY CITY BIKE SHOP 10901 Univ. City Blvd., Suite 4
      Charlotte NC 28213
      WHEEL, THE 20823 N. Main Street
      Cornelius, NC

      WOODRUN MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAILS

      April 24, 2005



      Please check www.rideumba.com or email taylor1529@carolina.rr.com for more information. Visit www.rideumba.com and look for the "Trail Conditions Message Board" for current trail information. We believe that the Uwharrie/Woodrun trail system has the potential to be the Pisgah or Tsali of Central NC.



      FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ)

      Q: Are the trails clearly marked?

      A: Yes. Keyauwee and Supertree are marked with blue blazes. The blue blazes are 2X6 inches rectangles. These confidence markers are found at trail, road, or power line right-of-way intersections. A double blaze means be alert, intersection ahead. Otherwise follow the beaten path. Let us know if additional blazes are needed.



      Q: Where do the mountain bike trails start? Do they leave from the parking lot?

      A: No, the trailheads of Supertree and Keyauwee are located 1.5 miles down Woodrun Road, the gravel road to the Woodrun Hunt Camp. You know you've reached Woodrun Camp if you come to a large clearing with a permanent port-a-john. Keyauwee starts on the left side of the hunt camp it stays to the left of Woodrun Road and comes back to Woodrun road. Supertree starts on the right side of the hunt camp near the gate and runs on the right side of Woodrun road. Supertree ends a 1.5 miles down Woodrun Road.just across the intersection from the "end" of Keyauwee. Supertree and Keyauwee are marked with blue blazes.



      Q: I'm confused; explain where the Keyauwee and Supertree trailheads are located again.

      A: Woodrun road is the key as it runs down the middle of the mountain bike trails. Keyauwee and Supertree both start 1.5 miles down Woodrun Road at the Woodrun Camp. Keyauwee stays to the left of Woodrun; Supertree stays to the right. Both trails meet again a mile or two further down Woodrun road. Since together, both trails are just one big circle, many riders ride both, as one big loop. If you park at the main parking lot, ride down Woodrun Road and ride both trails as one loop, the distance is just over 11 miles.



      Q: The signs at the Woodrun Hunt Camp confuse me. There is a wooden sign on the left side of the clearing that points down a trail. The sign says, "UWHARRIE TRAIL." What does that mean?

      A: The sign is at the beginning of the Keyauwee Mountain Bike Trail. It means that the Uwharrie (walking only) Trail intersection is located about ¼ of a mile down Keyauwee. If you're following blue blazes, you are on Keyauwee or Supertree. The Uwharrie hiking-only trail uses white blazes. Dutchman's Creek hiking-only trail uses yellow blazes.



      Q: A sign on the right side of the clearing confuses me; it has the UMBA symbol and points to the left. Does that mean that mountain bikers should always go left down Woodrun road?

      A: No, go either direction. The sign is confusing, and we plan to fix it. The Supertree Mountain Bike Loop starts here. You can either go down the trail to the right or left down Woodrun Road.either way you are on the Supertree Loop.



      Q: How long does it take to ride from the parking lot, go counter-clockwise on Supertree and come back to the main parking lot on Woodrun Road?

      A: It may take 45 minutes to an hour depending on your condition. Advanced riders do it much faster. Supertree is a more forgiving trail, but you will do some climbing.



      Q: How long does it take to ride from the parking lot and go clockwise on Keyauwee and return down Woodrun Road?

      A: It will take at least an hour for novice riders. Keyauwee has more elevation change and steeper climbs than Supertree. There are some climbs over a mile long. Keyauwee has more technical sections, but it is permissible to push your bike past the tough spots. Don't be embarrassed as only advanced riders ride Keyauwee without hike-a-bike.



      Q: How long does it take to leave the parking lot, travel clockwise on Keyauwee, then Supertree, and return t the parking lot?

      A: Many riders plan on at least 90 minutes, although advance riders will ride it much faster. If you are out of shape or a novice, allow for more time.



      Q: Which direction can we ride? A: Either direction



      Q: When is hunting season?

      A: Deer-gun season has begun by Mid-November and ends usually by Jan. 2. Bow season starts before that. There is also a turkey season and a squirrel season. There is no hunting on Sunday or after dark. During deer-gun season, I only ride on Sundays.



      Q: Can I ride on the Uwharrie Trail or Dutchman's Creek Trail?
      A: No these are walker-only trails as designated by the USDA Forest Service. Keyauwee crosses the Uwharrie Trail twice. Supertree crosses Dutchman's Creek Trail twice.



      Q: What are the International Mountain Bike Association's (IMBA) Rules of the Road? http://www.imba.com/

      A: 1. Ride On Open Trails Only
2. Leave No Trace

                      3. Control Your Bicycle!
4. Always Yield Trail

                      5. Never Scare Animals
6. Plan Ahead

 Hi:

 I'm planning on visiting your area this weekend May 28th to May 31st. Can I mt bike ride at the Uwharrie nat forest? I am from PA.
 Do I need a permit? Where can I get maps? Where is the local bike shop closest to the trail? Do I need any special gear?

 Thanks for your time

 Lee

Going to the Concord area and plan on doing some riding. We are going to Beech Mtn. Bike park and Renassaince Park. I understand Catawba River Trail is closed due to CWWP construction. Any other trails worth riding?

Thanks, Dan. I'll check 'em out. Appreciate it.

Southpark Cycles in Charlotte rents mountain bikes.

SouthPark Cycles

(704) 522-7006

5121 South Blvd

Charlotte NC 28217

www.southparkcycles.com


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Thanks guys. I already talked to the guys at De Oro and they said no one in town rents bikes. Maybe she can dismantle hers and UPS it down? Probably cheaper. Glad to hear the trails are in good shape. I'm jonesin' to ride. I haven't ridden since last August before we moved. My bike just sits in the garage calling out to me.

Here's the URL for Greensboro Bike Shops that should work:

http://tinyurl.com/4vylm

Sherie,

There aren't any bike shops in Stanly or Montgomery County...the closest counties to the trails.

Here's a Google search for Greensboro bikes shops.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navc...sboro+bicycle+shops
You've started early enough; you can scrounge up a bike.

I just rode Keyauwee and Supertree; conditions are good.

Tommy from Albemarle


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I'm new to the area, just moved here from PA and I'm anxious to get out and ride. I've been hiking and scouting trails. My best friend is flying down in May for a weekend and we'd like to ride Uwharrie, but it's too expensive to fly her bike down, too. :( Are there any bike shops around that rent bikes? Even demos? Thanks for any info you can give.

Trail Care Day March 19: Matthew, Matthew, Michael, and Chris...all from Aberdeen worked to drain a number of spots on Keyauwee, cut back branches, and dug out roots. The two leaning trees near Moonshine creek have been fixed...Thanks to Marcus and Co. Keyauwee is ready for race day.

Tommy,
My daughter has her first soccer game tomorrow, so I will not be able to make it. Have a good time!


Regards,
Gifford
>From: QT - Tommy Taylor <qtopic+27-j5jTbnpufAwXT@quicktopic.com> >Reply-To: QT topic 27-j5jTbnpufAwXT <qtopic+27-j5jTbnpufAwXT@quicktopic.com> >To: QT topic subscribers <qtopic+subs@quicktopic.com> >Subject: UMBA trail conditions and updates >Date: 18 Mar 2005 10:49:57 -0000 > >--QT------------------------------------------------------------- > Reply by email or visit > http://www.quicktopic.com/27/H/j5jTbnpufAwXT/m17 >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >Chris, > >Yes. It is a go. I'm not sure where yet. It depends on the >group we have. Keyauwee and Supertree need drains...meaning >that shovels, and pulaskis, etc. will be needed. There is a >section that needs work that only needs hand saws. The weather >looks good! > >Tommy > >< replied-to message removed by QT > >_________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe: http://www.quicktopic.com/27/X/j5jTbnpufAwXT >Start your own topic in 20 seconds: http://www.quicktopic.com |QT

Chris,

Yes. It is a go. I'm not sure where yet. It depends on the group we have. Keyauwee and Supertree need drains...meaning that shovels, and pulaskis, etc. will be needed. There is a section that needs work that only needs hand saws. The weather looks good!

Tommy

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Are we still on for the trail workday on Sat 9am?? Where will we be working... Meet ya @ 24/27 w/bike :)

Edited by author 02-25-2005 06:43 PM
  I went and road the Super Tree trail, clockwise, and I must say I was very impressed. The only real amount of mud we encountered was near the end at the creek where the bulldozing occured. On a side note, I found a headlamp (One used for riding at night or for walking at night, not a car headlamp) on the Road leading to the Super Tree Trail start, if you lost one please email me at ntodd@carolina.rr.com with as description of the one you lost and I will return it to the rightful owner. Thanks

The controlled burn has taken place on Woodrun road and Supertree. Supertree may be muddier than usual after a rain from the Hunt Camp to the creek because of USDA-FS bulldozer work. Trail conditions on the rest of Supertree and Keyauwee are good.

We need to do some drainage work on this section.

Edited by author 01-18-2005 07:49 PM
It looks like there is going to be a controlled burn in the Supertree area. I noticed that a tracked vehicle had bulldozed in a counterclockwise direction down Supertree. I don't know how far down Supertree they went...probably to the power line. It looks like the dozer also made a fire "road" at about .8 of a mile down Woodrun Road towards the power line. They burned this same area 2 or 3 years ago.

The next trail work/ride day is scheduled for Saturday, Feb 5th at 9 AM. We will mostly be limb trimming and removing tree debris, no earthwork this time. More info to be released soon.

We had two inches of rain last week and the creeks are full, but as of Saturday, January 15, trail conditions are good.

----- Original Message -----
From: "QT - John from florida"

John A. From Florida,

Thanks! I'm glad that the brochure helped. We hope to see you somewhere on Supertree/Keyauwee! Our next trail care day should be in January or February.

Trail conditions on Keyauwee and Supertree last Sunday were
excellent...we've had a couple of inches of rain since then, but the trails should be ready for Sunday, Dec 12.

I only ride on Sundays during deer hunting season from Nov. 6 to Jan. 1 as there is no hunting on Sundays.

During the last trail care day in November we rode Supertree and cleaned it up as needed. Supertree was a mudhole last year at this time. Now due to several trail care days it dries out as fast as Keyauwee.

Work Left To Do:

Keyauwee:

There are two low hanging trees next to Moonshine creek. We will cut them once they are on the ground.
Replace the cordoroy on Moonshine Creek with good drainage or armoring. The big creek is fixed...the uphill side needs to be graveled with baseball sized rocks.
Vistas need clearing to open of the views of Morrow Mountain, etc. Foliage could be moved back in some places.
There are a number of places that could be drained. We should probably go clockwise from the Hunt Camp and do some drainage work through Moonshine Creek.
We need to replace the logs on the gravel causeway with rock.
We need to build a bench at the first vista.


Supertree:
There are two deep washouts...one is at the beginning of Supertree if you go counterclockwise. The other is just uphill from the far entrance to Keyauwee.
The far side of the creek is muddy and could use a lot of gravel. We have enough gravel left over from the causeway project. We just don't have a way to get it to the creek about half a mile. Five to ten trips with a motorized wheelbarrow ($90 a day from the local rental center) would do the job.

Expansion:
We will work with the USDA Forest Service to expand the trail system in 2005 as possible.

I visit your area a few times a year to visit family and just happend upon your trail system but the first few times I rode the trails they weren't well marked and traversing the whole loop was a little confusing for a flat lander like me but this past summer I found your handout for navigating the trails and can not believe how much it has changed in just a few years. Thank you all for your efforts to make this one of those diamonds in the rough that you can ride all day without ever incurring overcrowded conditions or rude riders I hope to be able to attend one of your future trail up-keep days so I can contribute to your fine trail system, KUDOS!! and keep up the good work fella's for us flatlanders need riders like you to maintain such great riding destinations such as yours in outta the way places with little other choices for out door rec. in montgomery county later JA

More Information about the Trail Work on Sunday....stolen from DC.

Bring your riding stuff of course, but maybe also some work gloves, hand pruners or loppers or a small folding saw if you have them. We won't be doing any heavy work that would require too much more than that. We'll have some shovels, picks, and a wheelbarrow in case we need them.

Trail Care Day and Ride This Sunday, Nov. 7 from 1-4...

We will likely focus on Supertree. Here's a list of some things that we have to do...

 Keyauwee:

There is one tree across the trail near Moonshine creek...it can be ridden.
There are two low hanging trees next to Moonshine creek. The courdoroy near Moonshine creek still exists.
The big creek is fixed...by someone...not me. The uphill side could use a few buckets of small rocks.
The vistas need clearing
Foliage could be moved back in some places.
There are a number of places that could be drained.
We need to build a bench at the first vista.


Supertree:
There are about 4 logs across the trail. All can be ridden over or around by experienced riders.
There are two deep washouts...one is at the beginning of Supertree if you go counterclockwise. The other is just uphill from the far entrance to Keyauwee The washouts are "protected" by flags and or logs.
The far side of the creek is muddy and could use a lot of gravel.
Foliage could be moved back...not a big deal.

Treehugger and trianglemtb.com: Very nice work! I hope that I can sometime supply your favorite beverage!

Me and my riding buds from trianglemtb.com fixed the Keyauwee creek crossing on 10-10. The trails are in excellent shape everytime I ride Uhwarrie,You guys do a great job! Keep it up and happy trails.

Edited by author 10-11-2004 05:11 AM
Trail conditions are almost dry. Someone did some rock work on the big creek on Keyauwee. It's now rideable again. Nice Work!

After 8 inches of rain from Jeanne, on September 29, trail conditions are good. It is damp but OK. On fast downhill runs, the line has changed due to the runoff. Keyauwee has several low hanging trees near Moonshine Creek. Supertree still has about 5 downed trees, most are rideable.

As of September 22, Keyauwee is clear of fallen trees. The trail is dry and clear. The bed of the biggest creek on Keyauwee has changed and needs some work. Due to recent trail work, Keyauwee is ready to ride within 24 hours of a big rain. Supertree is in good condition. There are a few trees across the trail. Watch for logging trucks on Woodrun road. Deer bow season has begun. Walker Mountain Road and the power line right of way have been mowed.

Edited by author 09-21-2004 09:37 PM
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