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Galuna.comPerson was signed in when posted  1
08-05-2004 04:49 AM ET (US)
Please share your opinions concerning Bobby Fischer
Ava North  2
08-07-2004 05:41 AM ET (US)
I am a long lost friend of Bobbys fromBrookyn who dearly wants him back here in te

the USA and furthermore living "like a KING" in Westbury, LONG ISLAND,
Ne YORK.
I want to HELP.
Please contact me........I am as close as His sister JOAN was,

Ava NORTH
PO BOX 236
jScarsdale, NY 10583
Galuna  3
08-07-2004 07:04 AM ET (US)
Ava, please contact us at galuna@galuna.com I've already passed your message on.
Steve  4
08-08-2004 03:09 PM ET (US)
I don't know how to make this happen, but I have an idea. Maybe we can get a team of top-notch Jewish lawyers to defend Bobby pro-bono. This could serve two purposes: 1) to provide him with a good defense (assuming the lawyers are good), and 2) to (possibly) snap Bobby out of his dementia concerning the Jewish conspiracy against him. I want Bobby to be freed not only from his physical imprisonment, but from his mental anguish. He is clearly brilliant and I don't think he's a bad person, just troubled.
MLN00P@aol.com  5
08-08-2004 04:58 PM ET (US)
A team of top-notch Jewish lawyers to defend Bobby pro bono sounds like a bright idea! Maybe a good place to start would be the Center for Constitutional Rights which had William Kunstler as one of its founders. Also I like the idea that he has a Japanese woman lawyer working on his behalf.

My feeling is that Bobby should take his time and for a while integrate something like Korzybski&#E2;Pcs General Semantics or Neuro-linguistic programming. He's very much of an individual and it would be extremely difficult to prod him, but if he got in touch with Robert Anton Wilson's Maybe Logic University; it might help. (It's an impossibility, but the best thing for his mental health at this point would be for him to go on vacation! Actually I feel he is being set up to divert peoples attention from the war in Iraq.)

All that said, it's my opinion that his confusion could be difficult to turn around. If he were to be put in a psychiatric institution, he would only get worse. He's a disturbed person but it seems he still has his genius and only he maps reality through a Jewish conspiracy grid. A lot of what he says though is right on. As you say, he should be free from external incarceration as well as his own internal prison!

I do not know what he status is now but I believe a chess club in Iceland was willing to do something. I understand he is taking steps to revoke his US citizenship. Apparently his father, Hans Gerhardt Fischer, was born in Germany and, I believe, Fischer could receive German citizenship.
Steve  6
08-08-2004 05:34 PM ET (US)
I still like my idea, but here's the main problem(s) with it (not counting the question of how to actually make it happen):

1) Bobby would probably veto the idea (the main problem)!
2) In the event that a good defense still resulted in a loss in court, then Bobby would conclude that the team of Jewish lawyers had collaborated against him and not presented a proper defense.

But I still wish we could make it happen and get Bobby to "see the light" that there are good people and bad people of all backgrounds, rather than painting with his broad brush.
Philip  7
08-09-2004 06:05 AM ET (US)
Hello,

Bobby Fischer has a complex personal history. With all due respect, we do not expect those of another culture to fully understand the twisted mind of Bobby Fischer. For instance, did you know that William Lombardy, a Chess contemporary of Bobby’s and an x-(Catholic) priest filled young Bobby’s mind with anti-Semitic propaganda? Did you know that Bobby was into White supremacist literature? Did you know that Bobby once said “If I could blow up the whole world, I would”? It has come to our attention that Bobby has been trying to form alliances with Al Qaeda. Thirty years ago, or even twenty, we would have thought of Bobby in the usual manor: as a clown. But in a post 911 world these things are taken more seriously.

Bobby needs to be back in the US. We want him here. Please (Japan) do not harbor this criminal any longer!
                                                  
                                                  Thank you, Philip
Sharon  8
08-10-2004 07:59 PM ET (US)
Why have not Bob Ellsworth, or Bekins, or President Bush made any public statment in this case? That just confirms Bobbys story, and who will believe in an American trial, even if there ever will be one, American courts are jokes.
MLN00P@aol.com  9
08-10-2004 08:26 PM ET (US)
[Question, if Bobby Fischer alleges to be anti-Semitic and if that means acting like Nazi brown shirts, who is playing the thug? Of course, American has god on its side and can act as arrogantly as it wants. I forgot that.]
Bobby Fischer former world chess champion has been moved to Guantanamo Bay. While it is not being alleged that Fischer is a terrorist, the last straw was reached when he complained that a guard's nose was too long and Fischer couldn't see out of the bars.

Fischer who was captured in Japan for crimes relating to breaking UN sanctions in Yugoslavia, could face up to 10 years in prison if convicted. The problem will be in finding a court and a jury acceptable to Fischer.

Japan has an Extradition Treaty with the USA which requires them to hand over anyone sought by the authorities. The Americans were slightly peeved that the Japanese did not detain Fischer but bound and gagged him, put him on the next available flight locked in the toilet with a note "this is yours I believe", pinned to his chest.

US Marshall Chuck Dupontes said that they thought that the Japs were being mighty unneighbourly. Then they took off the gag. "It downright made me wish it were the old wild west. This mangy crittur was in desperate need of a shootin'. Never heard so much bitching and complaining come out of one mouth".
Fischer's arrival at Camp X-ray has caused fighting among the other prisoners. They are annoyed that the chief warden has ordered guards to take Fischer for daily walks. The guards are unrepentant.

"It's just a short walk on a leash down to a park nearby. Then we let him chase a tennis ball for an hour, do his stuff and bring him back.. It has calmed him down and his nose is wet, hell the improvement is worth the moaning".
Fischer's attorney Marvin Green was full of praise for the staff at Camp X-ray : "When Bobby arrived there was a lot of tension between him and the guards, particularly over messing on his cell floor. They must have broken his nose at least five times rubbing it into the turds. Now everytime I come to visit him his orange straight jacket is shining and his whole face lights up. It's time for Bobby to get back to the board".
Sharon  10
08-11-2004 07:29 AM ET (US)
Deleted by author 08-11-2004 07:59 AM
Sharon  11
08-11-2004 08:05 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 08-11-2004 08:12 AM

Mr MLN00P@aol.com what is your point ???


/m9 Or are you just ugly...
MLN00P@aol.com  12
08-11-2004 10:03 AM ET (US)
Actually the article I read was incorrect; Fischer has not been sent to Guantanamo Bay. Fischer does have anti-Semitic tendencies and at the same time he does have a strong sense of justice.

The Nazism cannot be equated with Zionism which does not mean that both "isms" do not share ruthless similarities.

Concerning conspiracy, anybody (including you and me) who thinks he really knows what's really happening out there is full of shit. But even though we don't really know what's really happening, we have to guess at it and come up with our own interpretations.

Fischer makes a big mistake by blaming the what he considers to be America's wrongs on a religion, multiple of diverse people who happen to call themselves Jews. One thing that Fischer does not seem to have gotten is the fact that his own mother, the local shoe store owner and an Ethiopian rabbi, all have nothing to do with Jewish conspiracy.

That does not mean that conspiracies of many kinds do not exist. Every plant seek its place in the sun and wants to exclude all plants what impede its growth. Most academic scholars laugh at conspiracy theory. Conspiracy, by definition, means a few people who secretly plot or spin together. People of the same economic class cannot help to conspire to some extent.

More and more America takes its orders from corporations and corporatism means fascism as Mussolini pointed out. A corporation represents a body, a kind of a Frankenstein legal fictive body, that lives only to promote itself and make money for its shareholders.

Early on in American society Walter Lippmann and Edward Bernays, nephew of Freud, developed the American theory of spin. They just happen to be Jewish. They both encouraged the manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element of society. Hitler in Mein Kampf came to similar conclusions on propaganda as Bernays did. Manipulation of the public goes way back to the Italian Renaissance and Machiavelli and even further back to Rome.

Here follows a good article on the opposite of conspiracy, i.e., just a coincidence theory. Which I don't discount either. What might appear like a conspiracy could only be a coincidence. Who know what goes on behind closed doors? I like the Ishmael Reed quote, "The history of the world is the history of warfare between secret societies."

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You can choose to graduate from the School of Coincidence.
Let me introduce you to the syllabus.

Let's talk about the theory of Luck, as it was coined by Mindy
Kleinberg, who lost her husband at Cantor Fitzgerald, in her testimony before the Cover-Up Commission.

Just by coincidence the cops and spooks of Germany, the United States and Israel followed around the alleged hijackers - not just the two you have heard of, if you&#E2;Pcve been following it, not just the San Diego boys, no. Nearly all of the later hijackers were under surveillance and just by coincidence, they all got under the radar. Theory of luck.

Just by coincidence, Mohamed Atta and his buddy Marwan Shehhi learned to fly at a CIA front that imported drugs into Florida. Just by
coincidence, you haven&#E2;Pct read that in the New York Times, you&#E2;Pcre getting it from me, the coincidence theorist (and from madcowprod.com)

Just by coincidence, the U.S. government got multiple warnings from a dozen countries in the weeks before 9/11 that when put together add up to a plot to hijack planes and crash them into New York on Sept. 11. Just by coincidence, no one put these together in time. No one could have imagined it! How many times have you heard that?

Just by coincidence, warnings were given to a mayor, to some generals, to other people not to fly on Sept.11. Just by coincidence, some
cancelled their travel plans, some called the FBI and warned about what would happen, and some placed bets against the airlines on the stock markets.

Just by coincidence, some of them spoke out after the attacks. Just by coincidence, you didn&#E2;Pct read that in the New York Times, you&#E2;Pcre hearing it from me, the coincidence theorist.

Just by coincidence, the U.S. military planned and staged wargames on Sept. 11. Just by coincidence, the scenarios for these exercises
involved multiple hijackings of commercial airliners in domestic
airspace and errant planes crashing into important buildings. Just by coincidence, these appear to have tied up the air force and caused a complete failure of longstanding standard air defense procedures, so that the 9/11
flights were not intercepted. You haven&#E2;Pct read that in the papers, but just by coincidence I read it in Aviation Week and on the military sites.

Just by coincidence, the U.S. chain of command did not react during the actual attacks. Just by coincidence, Bush, Rumsfeld and Myers by their own admission did nothing that morning, looking to all the world as though they wanted it to go ahead and happen. You saw that on TV but you didn&#E2;Pct think about it, did you?

Just by coincidence, the Project for a New American Century and other thinktank bigbrains planned an aggressive policy for world domination starting with a war in Iraq, and just by coincidence they admitted they&#E2;Pcd never sell it to the American people without a new Pearl Harbor. Just by coincidence, PNAC took power in a stolen election and today call themselves the Bush administration. Just by coincidence, they
planned a domestic police state and a plundering of the Treasury. Just by coincidence, they got their new Pearl Harbor. Just by coincidence they went ahead and implemented their plans that would have otherwise been impossible.

How much coincidence are you willing to take? All of them, of course. Because only coincidence is possible. Because Sept. 11 changed the world. Because we all have to obey what they say 9/11 told us. The lessons.

Hey I remember when I was in school they still taught the Declaration of Independence, I wonder if they still do. It started after the preamble with the words, we hold these truths to be self-evident. Now that&#E2;Pcs done. Now we hold these wars to be self-evident. A war in Afghanistan, because that&#E2;Pcs where them that done it come from, and because the oil and the poppies are sweet. A war in Iraq, because, as we all know, that&#E2;Pcs where them that done it don&#E2;Pct come from, but you know they would have done it if they could have, should have, we gotta stop them before they can because they might and then we&#E2;Pcll be cooked, and you know the oil is so sweet. A war on countries to be named later, because you know they will be named and they all hate our freedoms. Who&#E2;Pcs next. A war on your freedoms, because you know you were getting pretty uppity and lazy and fat. A war for your body and mind, because that&#E2;Pcs what you are still good for. A war forever, because war is business and business is war, or it&#E2;Pcs a bust. Just the war they said they wanted. Just by coincidence.
Now we're going to go to Code Red shortly, never fear, but in the prelude - Let&#E2;Pcs have some music, shall we?

by JackRiddler, posted at DU on July 15, 2004
Sharon  13
08-11-2004 11:48 AM ET (US)
Answer to /m12.
I can't take part of all your strange speculations..
You can kill a good person, but not a good ideer.
(And that will not be any coincidence)
James Peterson  14
08-15-2004 08:35 AM ET (US)
While people such as Bin Laden are at large, why dosn't Bush concentrate on hunting down the real criminals and leave artists such as Robrt J Fischer alone? If Mr Fischer had been treated with the respect he deserved in 1972, would he ever had dissapered, leaving chess devoid as it has been by the only real genius since Morphy? No I dont think so. Every serious chess player in the world feels a loss by the decades without Fischer, all the beautiful games that could have been produced. Even now, the authorities want to smash him down...isn't it time to just leave Mr Fischer alone, to get on with his life and just play chess?
nXg  15
08-15-2004 09:11 AM ET (US)
Steve, imagine what would happen if they failed.
MLN00P@aol.com  16
08-15-2004 09:29 AM ET (US)
I couldn't agree more. Several people have said that prosecuting Bobby Fischer is ridiculous. The first President Bush didn't know what to do about ethnic cleansing in Yugoslavia so he e has gotten himself on the wanted list by playing Spassky in 1992. Now Bush number two has completely fumbled it by getting us into an unprovoked for war for oil.

Bobby's biggest mistake is getting paranoid and believing in a Jewish conspiracy. His outspokenness has made him into a wanted political prisoner. He also has become a good excuse for a diversion from more pressing problems like the American economy and the war in Iraq.

It seems the whole thing has sort of backfired. They did not expect him to revoke his American citizenship. Also it seems he has been dropped form as a news media topic. Last I heard he is languishing in some Japanese prison.
MLN
Slobodan R. Stojanovic  17
08-19-2004 09:16 AM ET (US)
I think we should stop using the term "anti-Semitic" when we want to label individuals who don´t like Jews.

Arabs are also Semitic people, but no one has never used the term "anti-Semitic" against Israel, when its army attacks Palestinian refugee camps.

Conclusion : Bobby Fischer could be "anti-Jewish", but never "anti-Semitic".

SL.

P.S. Changing the meaning of some words could also be a sign of conspiracy, because words are the only weapon against human mind.
MLN00P@aol.com  18
08-19-2004 09:47 AM ET (US)
Good point. mln
Sharon  19
08-19-2004 06:16 PM ET (US)
Also Israels must stop making suicides.
Aka, Palestinian must stop "Terror"?
(where words just becomes sounds)
Anonymous  20
08-20-2004 02:15 PM ET (US)
Have the physical conditions of his confinement improved?
MLN00P@aol.com  21
08-20-2004 05:38 PM ET (US)
I just finished reading "Bobby Fischer Goes to War" by Edmonds and Eidinow which is about Fischer's first 1972 match with Boris Spassky in Reykjavik. Not only did he dislike the noise the audience made and complained about the glare of florescent lighting but, It seems, he passionately disliked the sponsors. He refused to let the independent film maker Chester Fox film the games and then when he found out that ABC TV was surreptitiously filming the games behind his back, he exploded.

Looking at something like the current Olympics, the question arises what does a product have to do with the sport. Everything! Behind the scenes, the product becomes everything and the games are secondary. The product is what is being sold. The sport is the attention getter.

Fischer saw it the other way around. Chess meant everything. And I believe the problem goes much deeper than that. When he was younger playing in the 50s and 60s, many times, as the author's of "Bobby Goes to War" point out, he was used. Promoters would say they would help with the expenses of travel, hotels, etc., and then after the tournament they would disappear sticking a penniless 13 year old with an enormous bill.

It is interesting. Bobby grew up in Brooklyn in a poor neighborhood and wanted to be rich. He wanted to put the game of chess on the same level as other sports. To a great extent Fischer promoted the popularity of chess during 1972 era. Now he is languishing in a Japanese jail and, again, very few people seem to care. It is not surprising that Fischer harbors bitter resentment.
Dog from Iceland  22
08-22-2004 01:06 PM ET (US)
Things would be so much easier if Fischer proved he is not circumcized. A simple photo will do.
Galuna  23
08-22-2004 03:25 PM ET (US)
Remember. Be careful what you wish for.
Anonymous  24
08-22-2004 08:49 PM ET (US)
My e-mail letter of petition to the Japanese Minister was returned undelivered.
PoppaJoe831@aol.com  25
08-22-2004 09:09 PM ET (US)
really y i sent email to colin powell bush chane y to pardon him n forgive after all jesus said while dying on cross father forgive them for they no not what they du show compassion for him
who is this guy anyway?  26
08-23-2004 05:25 PM ET (US)
i would like to know what fischer's connections with antisemitism are. I have read a few quotes that are pretty questionable and even paranoid.
PoppaJoe831@aol.com  27
08-24-2004 12:17 AM ET (US)
i dont know he has issues he hates jews he hates america but u know what y crucify him he is 61 give him an altimatem come back to united states and play competive chess and all is forgiven if not b extradited to us
Sharon  28
08-24-2004 01:00 PM ET (US)
Jepp, the CIA FBI NSA NASA.. have huge photoalbums of there own arsholes! Here is Bobby's:
http://www.jefffaerber.com/portfolio1/images_portfolio/dick.jpg
Kenneth Chamberlain  29
08-24-2004 02:05 PM ET (US)
Bobby Fischer does not deserve to go to prison, but as Sophia Polgar has said, "he could use some help". Undoubtedly, he suffers from paranoid schizophrenia.
PoppaJoe831@aol.com  30
08-24-2004 03:37 PM ET (US)
i agree with u mayb just fine him
Birgitta Jonsdottir  31
08-25-2004 07:42 AM ET (US)
If any of you would sign a petition to free Bobby, go to http://www.freebobby.org. It is URGENT that everyone who supports Bobby Fischer write to the Minister of Justice in Japan at this point. It appears that Bobby's appeal has been rejected.
Here is short prototype of a letter you can copy and paste and then send it off to the Justice Minister in Japan
I have sent a letter to this address and it has not bounced back



To: webmaster@moj.go.jp
Subject: Regarding Bobby Fischer


Mr. Justice Minister Daizo Nozawa
We kindly request that you will treat the case of Bobby Fischer according to all standard legal procedure in your country. It would be an utter disgrace if his case would be treated in any other way. To our knowledge, the standard time for physical deportation to take place after your order is three months. We hope that you will not move outside those standards, or it will be obvious to the rest of the world that this matter is highly political and unjust.


With regards


(Your Name)
PoppaJoe831@aol.com  32
08-25-2004 04:53 PM ET (US)
i have alreday done that i sent email to president bush cheny colin powell to ask for his pardon
Birgitta Jonsdottir  33
08-26-2004 04:42 AM ET (US)
good on ya, every person counts, and every letter matter
his case has started to remind me more and more of Kafka´s trial
court_change  34
08-26-2004 08:46 AM ET (US)

COURT CHANGE


My name is Maurice Frank and I'm in Scotland. I can't stand Bobby Fischer's racism but I take all opportunities to make this court change known, whoever wants to use it in any legal case. It was used in this case it could not work in favour of BF's ideas, because it only works in favour of liberal fair ideas.
THE COURT CHANGE IN 144 COUNTRIES: judges' decisions are no longer final.
I have been lobbying people in a series of political situations throughout the last 3 years, Genoa, Australia, Israel etc, to spread knowledge of the court change, whose shifting of power in favour of ordinary people ensures that it has been under a media silence. Nevertheless, it's on publicly traceable record through petitions 730/99 in the European, PE6 and PE360 in the Scottish, parliaments. Since 7 July 1999 all court or other legal decisions are "open to open ended fault finding by all parties and recapitulation therupon" instead of final.
This follows from my European Court of Human Rights case 41597/98 on an insurance scam of evictions of unemployed people from hotels. This case referred to violation of civil status from 13 May 97, yet the admissibility decision claimed the last inland decision stage was on 4 Aug 95. ECHR has made itself illegal, by claiming finality in issuing a syntactically contradictory nonsense decision that reverses the physics of time. It violates every precedent of member countries' laws recognising the chronology of cause and effect, in evidence.
The European Convention's section on requiring a court to exist, now requires its member countries to create a new schismatic ECHR that removes the original's illegality, by its decisions not being final. It follows this requires inland courts to be compatible with open ended decisions and doing inland work connected to them. Hence inland decisions also cease to be final and become open ended, in the 44 Council of Europe countries.

World trade irreversibly means jurisdictions are not cocooned but have overlapping cases. When a case overlaps an affected and unaffected country, the unaffected country becomes affected, through having to deal with open ended case content open endedly, that can affect any number of other cases open endedly. Open endedness is created in its system.
The concept of "leave to appeal" is abolished and judges no longer have to be crawled to as authority figures. Every party in a case is automatically entitled to lodge a fault finding against any decision, stating reasons. These are further return faultable, including by the original fault finder, stating reasons. A case reaches its outcome when all fault findings have been answered or accepted.
Anyone can add to the list of court change countries outside the Council of Europe, showing autocracies, pending their freer futures, as well as democracies. It starts with:


Israel and Lebanon through the case in Belgium on the Sabra-Chatila massacres.
America, Canada, Australia through my child brain research ethics dispute with Arizona university, stalled by an American government obstruction of justice. Obviously there will be many cases making these 3 countries court change, so I should not be seen as seeking the ego fantasy of taking personal credit for it through my case, but time priority entitles me to put my case in the list like this.

Rest of the list:






Yugoslavia through war crimes cases overlapping Bosnia.
Kosovo through war crimes cases overlapping Yugoslavia.
North Cyprus through Turkey's UN legal challenge against South Cyprus joining the EU.

Belarus through its election dispute with OSCE election monitoring.
Monaco through International Amateur Athletics Federation drug hearings there.
Vatican City through Sinead O'Connor's ordination as a Catholic priest.
Cuba through Elian Gonzalez.
Haiti through objecting to receiving petty crime deportations from America.
Antigua through its constitutional crisis on capital punishment.
Trinidad through its Privy Council case on capital punishment.
Jamaica through claims on both sides of American linked arms trade background to its violence.
Mexico through the Benjamin Felix drug mafia extradition to America.
Belize through Michael Ashcroft.
Guatemala through the child stealing and adoption scandal overlapping America.
Colombia through America's supposed human rights policy intervention in training Colombian police and military.
Guyana through the £12m debt claim dropped by Iceland (the shop).
Brazil through EU immigration unfairnesses to its football players, necessitating a mafia trade in false passports.
Argentina through its ECHR case on the General Belgrano.
Chile through General Pinochet.
Bolivia, Paraguay, Uruguay through Judge Garzon's citation of Henry Kissinger for the South American military conspiracy Operation Condor.
Chad and Senegal through a French action in Senegal obtaining Chad's former dictator Habre for trial under Pinochet's precedent.
Algeria through the Harkis' case from the Algerian war.
Liberia, Sierra Leone, Mali, Morocco through the Insight News case.
Ivory Coast through the chocolate slavery scandal.
Ghana through the World Bank's Dora slave scandal.
Togo through the Lome peace accords for Sierra Leone, and their breaking as an issue in factional arms supply to there.
Burkina Faso through an arms trade case of smuggling through it from Ukraine to civil war factions in Sierra Leone and Angola.
Niger and Rwanda through Oxfam's case of buying an arms trade "end user certificate" for Rwanda in Niger.
Burundi through the war crimes trial of Rwanda's 1994 head of state.
Tanzania and Japan through the 2000 G8 summit, because Tanzania Social and Economic Trust broadcast a contradiction in implementing both its wishes for economic advance and its debt relief terms.
Mozambique through its cashew nuts dispute with the World Bank.
South Africa and Lesotho through a WHO case against American pharmaceutical ethics there.
Nigeria through reported Nigerian drug mafia crime in South Africa.
Dahomey and Gabon through their slave trafficking scandals overlapping Nigeria and Togo.
Zimbabwe through its land finances dispute with Britain.
Equatorial Guinea through the charges in Zimbabwe of a coup conspiracy.
Zambia through Cafod's collection of objections to food supply and health violations in its IMF structural adjustment program.
Namibia through the Herero genocide case against Germany.
Angola, Congo Kinshasa, Ecuador through arms trade smuggling to them from Bulgaria and Slovakia.
Congo Brazzaville through the Jean-Francois Ndenge case in France.
Sudan through Al Shafi pharmaceutical factory suing America for bombing it.
Ethiopia through aid sector comment on its conditional debt relief.
Somaliland through its problem with Russian and South Korean coastal fishing.
Kenya through the Archer's Post munitions explosion case overlapping Britain.
Uganda through the Acholiland child slave crisis and Sudan's agreement to return children.
Mauritius through the Ilois rights judgment on the Chagos clearances.
Yemen through its problem with Spain over the missile shipment.
United Arab Emirates through Mohammed Lodi.
Saudi Arabia through the lawsuit by families of September 11 victims.
Qatar through the capture of Saddam Hussein.
Bahrain through the call for American witnesses in Richard Meakin's case.
Kuwait through the terrorism arrests in Saudi Arabia.
Iraq through the weapons inspection dispute before the invasion.
Jordan through its threat of "unspecified measures" in its relations with Israel.
Egypt through its disputes with Tanzania and Kenya over use of Nile water.
Libya, Syria, Iran through the Lockerbie bomb trial.
Afghanistan through Ben Ladan.
Pakistan through a dispute between supporters of enslaved women and the British embassy for not helping them escape.
India, Bangladesh, China, Indonesia through the World Wildlife Fund's campaign for tiger conservation, conflicting western romanticism with local populations affected by the homicidal absurdity of conserving a human predator.
Nepal through the Gurkhas' lawsuit for equal pay and pensions.
Vietnam through a church publicised refugee dispute overlapping China.
Cambodia through its enactment for a trial of the Khmer Rouge Holocaust.
Laos through Peter Tatchell's application to arrest Henry Kissinger.
Thailand through Sandra Gregory.
Burma through the Los Angeles judgment on the Unocal oil pipeline.
Sri Lanka through its call for the Tamil Tigers' banning in Britain.
East Timor through public reaction to the judgment against trying Suharto.
Papua New Guinea through WWF's Kikori mangrove logging affair.
New Zealand through its ban on British blood donations.
Nauru through the Australian civil liberty challenge on the Tampa refugees.
Fiji through its land crisis's nonracial solubility by a Commonwealth constitutional question against rent and mortgages.
Tuvalu through environmentalist challenges to America's rejection of international agreements on global warming and sea level.
Marshall Islands through the Nuclear Claims Tribunal cases.
Philippines and Malaysia through the international police investigation
in the Jaybe Ofrasio trial in Northern Ireland.
South Korea through its jurisdiction dispute with the American army.
North Korea through its apology to Japan for abductions.
Sharon  35
08-26-2004 01:55 PM ET (US)
Deleted by author 08-26-2004 02:09 PM
Chuck Ayoub  36
08-26-2004 08:05 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 08-27-2004 01:01 PM
More Bobby Fischer information at:

Unofficial Bobby Fischer Chess Page
Dale  37
09-03-2004 07:13 PM ET (US)
Over the years I have watched the Bobby Fischer saga unfold and it's a sad tale at times. Bobby used to be my hero in chess, I only played the openings he played and tried to emulate his style...what a player! When it comes to chess Bobby has always been the ultimate player. Of course over the years Bobby has said some interesting things and then came the re-match against Boris Spassky. Fischer has every right to say what he wishes, he has that freedom. It's not what he said, it's what he did back then that got him in trouble. Defying the sanctions got him in trouble, he can spew off at the mouth all he wants, nothing wrong with that, he can spit on all the letters he wants. When he sat down and made his first move on the chessboard that's what did it. Bobby has no one to blame but himself here. To me, he will always be the best Chessplayer the world has ever known, but this is his mess, not mine. He got himself in it and he can get himself out of it.


Dale
PoppaJoe831@aol.com  38
09-03-2004 07:47 PM ET (US)
bcause he defyed whats the problem if history has taught us ne thing chess is war y du countries kill men women children fight over the chess bd people have been pardon for worse crime we need bobby back if he chooses the government wants to crucify a 61 yr old man for playing chees stop the political bull crap it happened almost 12 yrs ago at least give him an ultimatem or fine him this country is bcoming communist we r not free to say du or go without hipacrits in govt free bobby fischer leave the king of chess alone
MLN00P@aol.com  39
09-03-2004 10:06 PM ET (US)
Does anybody have any recent news about Fischer? It seems like the last thing was the fact that he lost his appeals on August 24 or thereabouts. Since then it appears like there has only been silence. How is he? Has he been moved or is he in the same place of incarceration? Is he allowed to exercise. How is his health? Is he able to communicate with the outside world? etc. etc.
I was aware of Fischer way back before he took on Spassky in Reykjavik in 1972 for the World Championship. I recall I saw him at least twice play chess at the Manhattan Chess Club in New York City.

He created Fischerandom chess and a Fischer digital chess clock. He's opened up the game making it more interesting instead of a boring feat of memorization. He ranks as the greatest chess player ever. If chess were music, he's be next to Mozart.

The problem is his anti-Jewish paranoia which is a little sad. But even that makes some sense, If you substitute "greedy bastards" or "imperial fascists" for Fischer's "dirty Jews" then a lot of what he says is on the mark. Somebody suggested "Jewish Lawyers to Free Bobby!" That's a good idea. Maybe it would help his sanity.

Over the years, he has been ripped off by America's best esurient car salesmen. After he won the World Championship in 72, he was snubbed the White House. He never got a nickel for that movie, "Searching for Bobby Fischer" and several other things too. Apparently he was bumped off a list and a Russian gymnast was invited instead. Fischer disobeying the economic sanctions against Yugoslavia is a lot of hooey. The United States Chess Federation made money from that tournament and nobody has said anything to them. His American passport was never properly revoked and was valid when they took it from him at the airport in Japan. He's got a right to be angry.

John
Sharon  40
09-05-2004 07:05 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 09-05-2004 07:07 AM
You can criticize anyone and anything, except the one who rules.
Saddam maybe is gone, but not we!
ally  41
09-05-2004 12:00 PM ET (US)
Bobby seems to be in good spirits. In response to being told of Spassky's offer to share a cell with him,he replied " I don't want to share with Spassky - get me a chick"
chessbuster  42
09-05-2004 12:18 PM ET (US)
You bet he did. And not the chick who he said he's gonna marry either. Some hot new chess player babe. Man this guy is cold.
Sharon  43
09-05-2004 03:12 PM ET (US)
That supposed Japs wife "Miyoko Watai", is some in-breeding Chessgeek also..totally wierd..flat bannana..driedout elephant.
No I value liberty and freedom, join:
http://t.webring.com/hub?ring=libertyandfreedo
I like Big BooBs, BoBBy!
PoppaJoe831@aol.com  44
09-05-2004 03:24 PM ET (US)
free bobby fischer leave king of chess alone he is an icon a genius and the greastest chess player of all time bring him back to the us so he can b the worlds best champion
BlackSabbath  45
09-09-2004 08:09 AM ET (US)
Did Bobby use to play as white or as black player?
Maybe chess is a racist game!

//0zzy
(I used to play black, but hiphop isn't cool anymore..)
Anonymous  46
09-09-2004 01:36 PM ET (US)
The typer of this mesage and messages numbers twenty and twenty-four in this message forum does not want to be mistakenly identified with messages in this and other subject identical message forums made by another typer or other typers also using the anonym Anonymous. The question as to exactly how the difficulties presently being experienced by Mister Fischer can be diminished by participation in a message forum so moderated as to permit messages like some of those below is not entirly pointless or rhetorical, for which, I expect, see above.
BobbyFischer  47
09-09-2004 06:18 PM ET (US)
Thank gad Im coming trough now to the Internet, halleluja!
I have read the messages on this board, and think most of you are idiots.
Pleas stop whining, and start demanding!
Demand the despicable, circumcised, thieves, murderous, filthy, laying ... and bastard Jews in Washington, to release me. Or else the world must be destroyed.
Thats the only way.

And halleluja again!
alan@gol.com  48
09-10-2004 06:07 AM ET (US)
So, what is being done to help him? Why not invite Boris Spassky and other top chess players to Japan and have a mini chess tournament outside the detention grounds? The Russian Embassy just besdie the Tokyo Amrican Club would make another good location. If he is to stay in Japan, he needs publicity and fast.
MLN00P@aol.com  49
09-10-2004 08:59 AM ET (US)
I am not a stamp collector and have very little interest in philately but how about some country, perhaps Russia, France, Iceland, the Philippines, Germany coming out with a series of stamps one for each World Champion: a sheet of stamps, one for Alekhine, Botvinnik, Capablanca, Euwe, Fischer, Karpov, Kasparov, Lasker, Morphy, Petrosian, Smyslov, Spassky, Steinitz, Tal? Maybe the U.N could do something like that. Just an idea. I do not believe the United States would do which a thing, but U.S. Post Office could be petitioned.
ForestGump  50
09-10-2004 10:10 AM ET (US)
Or maybe he can try becoming something else, as a painter, or as a rockstar, or whatever when he grew up. Not everybody have to be a popstar though! right?

(And to Mr BlackSabbath, I don't think you play chess, you greedy whining son of a bitch!)
G.Bush  51
09-12-2004 11:54 AM ET (US)
The slime are coming in from evry corner now.
Do not frame me within the next two mount or I will POD you.
MLN00P@aol.com  52
09-12-2004 12:53 PM ET (US)
[Hi Bobby, I wrote this thing. Strangely enough, you are one of my favorite people even though I strongly disagree with your anti-Jewish outlook. Let me know if his is piece is all right. I have not sent it out yet. Take care, John from Vermont.]


This letter is being emailed to the following addressees:

Attorney General John Ashcroft;
President George W. Bush;
United States Congress;
United States Senate;
Vice President Richard Cheney;
Secretary of State Colin L. Powell;
Amnesty International;
International Committee of the Red Cross;
Japanese Ambassador to the United States,
Mr Ryozo Kato, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary,
Japan to the United States of America;
Embassy of Japan
2520 Massachusetts Avenue NW, Washington D.C. 20008;
Simon Loekle, &#E2;P C;As I Please,&#E2;P D;
WBAI Pacifica Radio;
Center for Constitutional Rights;
American Civil Liberties Union;
Radio Free Brattleboro;
Dennis Kucinich;
Michael Moore;
National Scholastic Chess Foundation;
Robert J. (Bobby) Fischer&#E2;Pcs website,
(http://home.att.ne.jp/moon/fischer/);
Fischer Watch;
Unofficial Bobby Fischer Chess Page;
United States Chess Federation.

To whom it may concern:

The charges against Fischer are unfair and insignificant and should be dropped! At one time he was the pride and joy of the Free World. Even though he has a controversial personality, he should be pardoned.

His games have literally given pleasure to thousands of chess players worldwide. I was aware of Bobby Fischer in the late 50s through the 60s and way before he played Spassky the first time in 1972 in Reykjavik. I recall watching him play at the Manhattan Chess Club in the early 1960s. His chess playing performance was spectacular even at this early date. Bobby had won the U.S. Chess Championship eight times.

Miyoko Watai, President of the Japan Chess Association, who Bobby has known since 1973, has come out in favor of Bobby's release. She was the only female player, of two chess players chosen by the Japan Chess Association, who played Fischer after he became World Champion. Miyoko Watai and Bobby have remained in contact, corresponded and travelled together for more than 30 years and have lived together for the past four years. There has been talk of Bobby and Miyoko getting married.

Here follows some quotes from Garry Kasparov, Russell Targ (married to Fischer&#E2;Pcs half sister), Boris Spassky, as well as an article entitled &#E2;P C;The Lynching of a Returning Hero,&#E2;P D; and my own article, &#E2;P C;Free Bobby Fischer.&#E2;P D;
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&#E2;P C;Despite the ugliness of his decline, Bobby Fischer deserves to be remembered for the great things he did for chess and for his immortal games.&#C2;&#A0; I would prefer to focus on not letting his personal tragedy become a tragedy for chess. An entire generation of top American players learned the game as kids thanks to Mr. Fischer. Today's flourishing scholastic chess movement could be harmed as his woes and beliefs make headlines around the world. People may believe that this is what happens when a genius plays chess--instead of what happens when a fragile mind leaves his life's work behind.&#E2;P D; --Garry Kasparov, World Chess Champion, 1993-present.

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Russell Targ who was previously married to Bobby Fischer's late sister, but has not spoken to him in over ten-years, has stated publicly,&#C2;&#A0; "What Bobby's ac cused of is playing chess 12 years ago in Yugoslavia,&#C2;&#A0; It looks like it's a distraction from the war and the economy.&#C2;&#A0; Let's arrest Bobby Fischer.&#C2;&#A0; That will take people's minds off their troubles.&#C2;&#A0; Prosecuting Bobby right now is ridiculous.&#C2;&#A0; He's a political prisoner now.''

On President George Bush the First "He didn't know what to do about ethnic cleansing in Yugoslavia, now George the Second doesn't know what to do about 900 Americans in Iraq or the economy, but let's arrest Bobby.''

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&#E2;P C;If for some reason it is impossible,&#C2;&#A0; I would like to ask you the following: Please correct the mistake of President Fran&#C3;&#A7;ois Mitterand in 1992.&#C2;&#A0; Bobby and myself committed the same crime.&#C2;&#A0; Put sanctions against me also.&#C2;&#A0; Arrest me.&#C2;&#A0; And put me in the same cell with Bobby Fischer.&#C2;&#A0; And give us a chess set.&#E2;P D; --Boris Spassky, World Chess Champion 1969-1972.

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&#E2;P C;Patriotism? Your patriotism waves a flag with one hand and picks pockets with the other!&#E2;P D; --Ingred Bergman to Cary Grant (TSOG: The Thing That Ate The Constitution by Robert Anton Wilson)


FREE BOBBY FISCHER!

Bobby Fischer has now reached the venerable age of 61 and, even though you may disagree with him, even though he can be unpredictable, inconsiderate and brash, he is due respect and compassion. Bobby should be granted political asylum.

Fischer now languishes in a jail in Japan; the Olympic games are at this moment being played in Greece. The Olympic games, it is said, were founded by Zeus, ruler of the gods on Mount Olympus and thrower of thunderbolts. One point that has been long forgotten; the original Olympic games not only emphasized bodily strength and physical agility but also eloquence and sharpness of intellect. Artists, poets, musicians and playwrites wore the laurel wreath, and perhaps one might add chess players to the list of games representing a sharp intellect. Bobby has shot to stardom and scaled to the heights sitting next to the gods: Steinitz, Capablanca, Alekhine, Botvinnik, Tal, Petrosian, and Spassky. Fischer has been called the greatest player ever. Bobby should be considered in the spirit of good sportsmanship and fairness due him. Pardon Bobby!
Nipponese custom authorities have descended upon the King of Chess. Although many have commented on his reticence and an inordinately long reclusion, Fischer&#E2;Pcs endgame may be just beginning. FREE BOBBY FISCHER!
Robert J. (Bobby) Fischer represents one of the few cultural icons of the twentieth century. He must be immediately released and given political asylum in a friendly country. The ridiculous charges against him must be dismissed.
On July 15, 2004, Robert J. (Bobby) Fischer, World Chess Champion (1972-1975), was detained by Japanese officials, his U.S. passport, which had not expired, was confiscated, and he was put in the jail at Narita Airport in Tokyo Japan. He does not want to return to the United States and seeks political asylum. Pressure must be put on Japanese authorities who must gather the wisdom and courage to stand up to the United States of America.

Most probably the Japanese have started the process of handing Bobby over to the Americans. Obviously the authorities want Bobby to receive as little media coverage as possible hoping few people will pay attention to his situation, and eventually he will disappear ending up silenced and behind bars. All this must be turned around. It would be great to see more people discussing Bobby and playing chess (Fischerandom). Some country, perhaps Iceland or maybe Russia, should even come out with a stamp commemorating World Chess Champion, Robert J. Fischer.
 
Bobby is guilty of what?

Due to economic sanctions imposed on Yugoslavia, President George Bush, Sr. issued an executive order restricting Fischer from traveling to Yugoslovia. Ergo, Robert J. Fischer is guilty of playing a return chess match with his former opponent, Boris Spassky, in the country of Yugoslavia disobeying a directive not to travel in that country. This happened in 1992. (Incidentally, the grandmaster and former world champion, Boris Spassky, has taken up residence in France and, to my knowledge, the French have never restricted his freedom to travel.) In that return match Fischer won $3.65 million with five loses and ten wins.

Fischer has broken no law (See http://www.ishipress.com/bobbybak.htm on Sam Sloan&#E2;Pcs website). Howard Goldowsky comments: &#E2;P C;If that match did break the law, then all of the officers of the United States Chess Federation need to go to jail because the USCF purchased more than $500,000 worth of chess books from Yugoslavia during that time period (after receiving an "opinion of counsel" that it was all right to do so).&#E2;P D;
 
Fischer has a passion for fairness. It is his outspokenness that has upset the sensibilities of the American government. Fischer may be a chess genius, but he has never been a spokesperson for the American capitalist system. Fischer has lived outside of America long enough to realize that the world hates America because of its aggressively expansive, neocolonial policies. The United States government looks everywhere but within itself and has an unwillingness to come to terms with the root causes of 9/11. Fischer has openly declared we deserve what we got on that date.

Sadly, Fischer has become anti-Semitic believing that &#E2;P C;dirty Jews&#E2;P D; are behind the world&#E2;Pcs inequities. After listening to a few of his live radio global commentaries, however, if you substitute &#E2;P C;corporate agenda&#E2;P D; or even &#E2;P C;fascist bastards,&#E2;P D; for &#E2;P C;dirty Jews&#E2;P D; then what Bobby says makes sense. It appears more people, all over the world, are coming to Fischer&#E2;Pcs conclusions. Nevertheless, Fischer&#E2;Pcs outspokenness remains an anathema, and the United States government wants him squelched.

Between 1999 and 2003 Fischer gave 21 live radio interviews, all from the Philippines except one from Hungary and one from Iceland. (They can all be found on Fischer&#E2;Pcs website.) One must conclude that, if something is not done soon, Bobby Fischer may join American&#E2;Pcs political prisoners, i.e., those who have spoken out against America&#E2;Pcs rapacious policies. Here follows a passage from Fischer&#E2;Pcs global commentaries from his website illustrating the point:
 &#E2;P C;It's high time for all civilized countries all over the world to break diplomatic relations with the U.S.&#E2;P D;

&#E2;P C;The brutal, unprovoked U.S. led invasion and subsequent occupation of Iraq is nothing but naked aggression and all civilized countries all over the world should immediately and completely and permanently break all diplomatic relations with the U.S.A. to punish her! Furthermore, the horrifying, barbaric use of hundreds (or is it thousands?) of tons of deadly depleted uranium against Iraq by both the United States and England surely constitutes the biggest war crime since Hiroshima and Nagasaki if not in fact (with all due respect to the terrible sufferings of the noble Japanese people) the biggest war crime in the history of the world!!! U.S. President George W. Bush is a killer. He's a thug. He needs to be brought to trial. Anyway, what is a U.S. embassy really? It's just an (often huge) CIA base inside your own country daily and nightly undermining your own sovereignty... A country needs a U.S. embassy like it needs a hole in the head!&#E2;P D; --Robert J. Fischer
 
Bobby Fischer has a right to feel disgruntled. One of Fischer's attorneys, Andrew Davis, reflected on Fischer's early years, "Bobby never made any money. Everyone who dealt with him when he was fourteen, fifteen, used him. If there was any money to be made, they took it. They'd call him up and say, 'Come on out here, we'll pay your bills and we'll give you a couple of bucks on the side.' And when it was over, they'd stick him with a huge hotel bill. Here's a fifteen-year-old kid with an enormous bill, no money, all alone, crying." As Howard Goldowsky points out, &#E2;P C;yet, for all these years, Bobby Fischer lived in poverty. He lived for years in a neighborhood in Brooklyn where few white men dared to walk. (I [Howard Goldowsky] went by the place a few weeks ago, but I did so in the daytime, not at night.) He also lived for years in a 5x8 cubical in the YMCA on 34 Street in New York City.&#E2;P D;

Bobby became the World Chess Champion and then got ripped off by America. Bobby&#E2;Pcs personal belongings have been stolen and put up for auction. His books have been plagiarized. A movie, illegally using his name, In Search of Bobby Fischer, was made about a youngster, Josh Waitzkin, who has some chess instincts but is no world champion.

Indeed Fischer has been mistreated by Americans. His own account in the small pamphlet I Was Tortured in the Pasadena Jailhouse! found on the web, (http://www.daveporn.org/bobby.html) sounds not too different from the recent atrocities which occurred at Abu Ghraib Prison in Iraq and, as well, in America&#E2;Pcs own vast prison industry. For three days in May of 1981 Fischer was incarcerated on false bank robbing charges, made to walk around naked and not allowed telephone calls.

Bobby was born in Chicago. He grew up with his mother, Regina Wender Fischer, and his half-sister, Joan. Regina, who spoke eight languages, struggled, became a trained nurse, and eventually completed a medical degree. For years the Fischers were hounded by the FBI causing Regina to lose a series of jobs and live near poverty. The FBI finally concluded that they had no case.
(It is interesting that Bobby&#E2;Pcs half-sister, Joan Targ, and her daughter, Elizabeth Targ, have been involved with controversy. Joan was married to Russell Targ, the son of William Targ, publisher of SRI (Stanford Research Institute's investigation of claims into psychic abilities) which is dispised by CSICOP, the Committee for Scientific Investigation into the Paranornal. Their daughter, Elizabeth Targ, did signficant work in the area of distance healing.)
A German woman, Petra Dautov, corresponded with Bobby Fischer and a friendship ensued during her stay in Los Angeles. Then for a while he visited her in her hometown in Germany. She wrote a book, now out of print and difficult to find, Bobby Fischer, Wie er wirklich ist, Ein Jahr mit dem Schachgenie [Bobby Fischer, Who He Really is, One Year with the Chess Genius]. Judging from what little has been written about Petra&#E2;Pcs book, Bobby Fischer is a likeable person who shuns journalists.
 
Known as the greatest chess player ever, at the age of six he learned how to play chess. By the age of 15 he became the youngest chess Grandmaster. His first real break come in 1956 by winning the U.S. Junior Championship. Two years later he became U.S. champion. He has had many brilliant games. In that same year, 1958, against grandmaster Robert Byrne, Fischer played what has been dubbed &#E2;P C;The Game of the Century.&#E2;P D;

Being U.S. champion gave Fischer the right to play in the Interzonals. Fischer was up against a tight web of Russian players. Nobody suspected Fischer would even qualify. Fischer suspected Russians pre-arranged games that eliminated non-Russian players. In 1969 Fischer played in the Candidates Tournament paving the road to world championship. Fischer&#E2;Pcs astonishing string of wins, trouncing all opponents, have not been repeated since by top world players. Petrosian finally ended Fischer&#E2;Pcs unheard of score, but he easily qualified.
It was 1972. The Reykjavic World Champion Chess match did more than anything to popularize chess in America at the height of the cold war era. Before that time, Russia had dominated the chess world. Fischer now faced the World Champion, Boris Spassky, in Reykjavic, Iceland. Spassky, himself, was not totally appreciated by established Communist bureaucracy. Boris Spassky did not toe the ideological line: he spoke his mind, did not endorse the pro-communist American activist Angela Davis and he enjoyed literature especially Dostoyevsky novels which were disapproved by the Soviet state.

It seemed likely that Fischer would not appear in Reykjavic. Bobby had never defeated Spassky. The tournament was supposed to start on Sunday, but Fischer failed to show. Twice American reporters drove the shy Fischer away from Kennedy Airport. An English promoter came forward with a large prize fund. Fischer arrived at Reykjavik two days late. He made demands about the lighting and complained to the organizers. He failed to show up for the second game. Tension was in the air. At first Fischer was behind, but he quickly caught up and continued an unbeatable winning streak.

After Fischer defeated Spassky, Spassky kept on playing high level chess, remarried a French woman and moved to France. He has become an ambassador of chess. After the tournament Fischer lingered in Reykjavik for a while and returned to New York. When Mayor Lindsay offered Fischer the keys to the city, Bobby quipped, "I live here, what do I need a key for?" Bobby became a celebrity overnight and the first American world chess champion since Paul Morphy did it in the 1850s.

Fischer for a while took part in celebrity limelight, paled around with Bob Hope but, at the same time, turned down offers from the likes of Warner Brothers. He wanted to visit the White House but was snubbed; a Russian gymmast was invited instead.

Several years later, disputing over conditions, Fischer refused to defend his title; consequently, FIDE (the World Chess Federation) awarded the title to Karpov by default.

He gave most of his earnings to a California cult and then broke with them. He began to vanish from public view becoming virtually a total recluse. He began studying tracts such as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, an alleged plan for Jewish world dominance.

In 1992 Fischer came out of hiding and challenged Spassky to a return match. The U.S. Department of State forbade Fischer from playing in Yugoslavia. The match took place anyway. He has been a fugitive on the run ever since living in Budapest and Japan.
 
Fischer, who claims to have given up the old chess, has done a lot to make chess more interesting. He has patented the "Fischer chess clock," eliminating time-pressure scrambles which can cause psychological rattling. Players will never again be desperately short of time. Fischer's chess clock has been adopted at international events. Bobby also has developed 'Fischerandom Chess&#E2;Pc which sidesteps the arduous task of memorizing volumes of lines of opening play and making chess more of a game of skill than one of rote. It may take a while but Fischerandom Chess (F.R. Chess) is catching on.
 
Chess cannot be called an American sport. Concerning the popular American sport, football, the novelist Irwin Shaw has commented, &#E2;P C;If the players were armed with guns, there wouldn&#E2;Pct be stadiums large enough to hold the crowds.&#E2;P D; Though chess can be considered a combative game of thought played over a board, it is non-violent. The only thing that ever gets battered around is one&#E2;Pcs ego. It is devoid of physical violence. My guess, the spatial intricacies required for chess overwhelm the attention span of most Americans.
Fischer never had a formal education. Arthur Koestler coined the word "mimophant" to describe Bobby Fisher's character, a cross between a sensitive mimosa plant and a stomping elephant. Although at times he can be a gentleman, he also can be unappreciative. His games, however, are never showy but always jewels of precision and harmony.

Look anywhere and American culture is on the decline, and so is chess. The game of chess cannot be separated from culture. The artist who gave us readymades, Marcel Duchamp, has noted that "while all artists are not chess players, all chess players are artists." The old Russian Grandmaster and World Champion, Mikhail Botvinnik, once opined, &#E2;P C;Chess is a part of culture and if a culture is declining then chess too will decline.&#E2;P D; The top New York Times music critic, Harold Schonberg, has written, "If chess were as popular as music, if as many people responded to its subtleties and nuances, the masterpieces of Steinitz, Capablanca, Alekhine, Batvinnik, and Fischer would not be held far below the masterpieces of Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, and Brahms."

Back in 1992, after Bobby&#E2;Pcs return match with Boris Spassky, Murray N. Rothbard wrote an article, &#E2;P C;Bobby Fischer: The Lynching of the Returning American Hero,&#E2;P D; making a good case then to pardon Bobby Fischer. Mr. Rothbard noted, instead of welcoming a returning chess player after not having played in public for seventeen years, how the media, especially the New York Times and the Washington Post went out of their way to denigrate Bobby. Back then Mr. Rothbard wondered how far we have gone &#E2;P C;to forge the chains of totalitariansim in our society?&#E2;P D; It is time we pardon Fischer now. It has been over twelve years since economic sanctions had been imposed on Yugoslavia.

Let us not completely lose our culture and our humanity. Bobby Fischer&#E2;Pcs games have given pleasure to countless thousands of chess players worldwide. Let us give life to Bobby Fischer the person. Free Bobby Fischer!

&#C2;&#A9; 2004 by John van der Does
PO Box 726
Chester, VT 05143
802-875-4380
mln00p@aol.com
MLN00P@aol.com  53
09-12-2004 01:27 PM ET (US)
Every ideology is a mental murder, a reduction of dynamic living processes to static classifications, and every classification is a Damnation, just as every inclusion is an exclusion. In a busy, buzzing universe where no two snowflakes are identical, and no two trees are identical, and no people are identical -- and, indeed, the smallest subatomic particle, we are assured, is not even identical with itself from one microsecond to the next -- every card index system is a self-delusion. "Or, to put it more charitably," as Nietzsche ways, "we are all better artists than we realize."

It is easy to see that the label "Jew" was a Damnation in Nazi Germany, but actually the label "Jew" is a Damnation anywhere, even where anti-Semitism does not exist. "He is a Jew," "He is a doctor," and "He is a poet" mean, to the card-indexing center of the cortex, that my experience will be like my experience with other Jews, other doctors, and other poets. Thus, individuality is ignored when identity is asserted.

from Hagbard Celine's Booklet
See the Appendix in Robert Shea's and Robert Anton Wilson's
The Illuminatus Trilogy
Sharon  54
09-12-2004 06:16 PM ET (US)
The Illuminatus Trilogy? Did it make it to the movies??
Mr MLNOOP your text are huge, and have strange &#C2;&#A0; chars. Beside that it is well written, where did you cut&paste it from this time? Consider to choose 1/10 of portion next time. The strange chars can be of this types:
http://users.easystreet.com/ovid/cgi_cours...ices/appendix2.html )
MLN00P@aol.com  55
09-12-2004 08:28 PM ET (US)
Hi Bobby,

For the Illuminatus Trilogy, check out Robert Anton Wilson's home page
http://www.rawilson.com/main.shtml

The Illuminatus Trilogy never made it to the movies, but there was an Illuminatus opera which was performed in England. Some of links on his website are worthwhile. I interviewed Robert Anton Wilson in Dublin, Ireland a while back in 1984 when I was living in Paris. I now live in Vermont. Somehow I have stayed in contact with Robert Anton Wilson over the years. We share some of the same interests. He's older, somewhat unknown, but a person thinks for himself.

If you are interested, check out Alfred Korzybski's book "Science and Sanity." Korzybski is known for the adage, "the map is not the territory" and therefore language can only describe the structure of reality. Korsybski, a Polish count and engineer, has had a lot of influence on Robert Anton Wilson and on my own thinking as well.

Most of my cutting and pasting comes from looking around the internet. Also I recently read "Bobby Fischer Goes to War" by two English blokes. I have your pamphlet "I Was Tortured in the Pasadena Jailhouse" which no doubt actually occurred. (Witness our own prison industrial complex and Abu Ghraib. The people who ran Abu Ghraib were recruited from America's prisons.) Also I have "Bobby Fischer: My 60 Memorial Games" along with a modest collection of chess books. Somehow I was able to get Petra Dautov's book from a dealer in Switzerland. My German is not really that good, though I lived in German for a while in the 1970s.

I am working on a biography of Boris Vian. Vian was French and a dropout engineer who wrote novels, antiwar songs, and knew a lot about jazz. He got in trouble with the French authorities over his song "Le Deserteur" which came out during the French-Algerian conflict.

I hope you are keeping up your health. I'll edit down the Fischer article and send it off to the slime.

Good luck,
mln00p
MLN00P@aol.com  56
09-12-2004 08:37 PM ET (US)
PS
I checked out Ovid's "Web Programming Using Perl" Course and will try and figure out strange chars.
Sharon  57
09-13-2004 12:34 PM ET (US)
There isn't any "Robert Anton Wilson" in any of Sweden public libraries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Anton_Wilson
Show that he and other names you mentioned, are pseudo psychologist, he was co-worker for PlayBoy, friend of introducer of LSD, and Mushrooms drugs, and invented: http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/bf/
Sara Stalin  58
09-19-2004 06:06 PM ET (US)
This just proves that Communism is the best system!
But because most people are stupid, they prefers dumocracy, as cowboys.
I think Bobby Fischer also should become a commie, because in this system the word "justice" are a very abused word, and it's only people with big moth that get anything. As all other chess genius and scientist that was imported to America the the last decade, all commies.

Fock Hitler, become commies now!!
David  59
09-20-2004 10:28 AM ET (US)
Hello, Im am what Fischer calls a dirty secret Jew.
Im now feed up with it, and want to quit.
Are there any exit organization anywhere that can help me?
Need a new identity also.. and etc, HELP!
David  60
09-24-2004 08:06 AM ET (US)
Those of you who enjoyed Bobby recorded radiointerviews.
Here is a good link for you:
http://www.natall.com/cgi-bin/audio.cgi?year=2004 (American Dissident Voices broadcasts)

And here is a directory of all live shows in the world:
http://www.virtualtuner.com/ (Live Internet Radio and TV Directory)
Brad  61
09-25-2004 03:07 PM ET (US)
For the latest news and articles on Bobby Fischer, here is a good link.

Unofficial Bobby Fischer Chess Page
Dylan  62
10-21-2004 01:42 PM ET (US)
They should have thrown that asshole in the slammer a long time ago.
Dylan  63
10-21-2004 01:50 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 10-21-2004 02:17 PM
Oh Gawwwd they should make it a fucking crime for this man to open his mouth. Shut the fuck up with these damn interviews Bobby or I will come to Japan and rip out 2 of ur damn ribs and stick em in your fucking eyeballs!
Joe  64
11-06-2004 04:47 AM ET (US)
Yeehaww Dubya '04, yeah baby.
Chuck  65
11-11-2004 09:50 PM ET (US)
The Bobby Fischer Chess Page is at a new location.

Chuck
GALUNA  66
03-23-2005 09:23 PM ET (US)
USHIKU, Japan Mar 23, 2005 — Chess legend Bobby Fischer was freed Thursday after nearly nine months in a Japanese detention center and immediately headed for the airport to board a flight to his new home, Iceland.

Fischer, sporting a beard and a baseball cap pulled down low over his face, left the immigration detention center in this city on Tokyo's outskirts early Thursday.

He was accompanied by his fiancee, Miyoko Watai, the head of Japan's chess association, and officials from the Icelandic Embassy. He was scheduled to catch an afternoon flight to Denmark en route to Iceland.
xplor  67
04-23-2005 09:14 AM ET (US)
Thank you for this site. A task well done.
I challenge B Fisher  68
12-02-2005 11:25 PM ET (US)
Tired of playing the same game over and over again?
Get a taste of what might be the "chess of the 21st century" as one International Master put it.
One problem though: the new game requires real talent. "95 percent of all chess players will never be able to play this game well, simply because they can not even play the current, less complicated conventional chess," stated the IM. "I'm afraid Z-Chess will remain a game for Masters and GMs. This new game has so much to offer, it's almost incredible. I'd love to see a match of Z-Chess between two
GMs. Immediately, there would be something to be analysed. Something new and fresh for great minds... And what a challenge it would be for a player like Bobby Fisher. We'll see..."
Anyway, this IM is "hooked" on Z-Chess. He said after about 10 games he began to see the depth and beauty of it and could never again have the same appreciation for the "old stuff ".
"Players are now so bored with chess, they degenerate it by playing perverted variations. Why not try a game of Z-Chess and get hooked on what's really inexhaustible. I'd like to hear comments of a GM after playing at least 25 serious games. I think I'd hear something like: Wow! I don't believe I'll ever be able to master this game." These words from the same IM. But don't take his words, see it for yourself. Zillionsofgames. com already has a computer program for Z-Chess ran by the "zillions" engine but it is only for beginners. The best way to learn the game is by going to one of the websites (probably maintained by the inventor), and print out (and enlarge) the board if you want to play it. Do a Google search or go to: www.zeechess.8m.com
Enjoy!
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Mario  74
06-29-2008 07:08 PM ET (US)
Beautiful British Columbia – The Best Place on Earth?
By Concerned Citizen of Canada


     This year, British Columbia will celebrate its 150th year. It has been said that its beauty made it to be the best place on earth to live. Is this for real or just a fact?
     People came to Canada with full of dreams thinking that this is the land of promises. Promises that will give them chance to fulfill their aspirations in life. In reality, this is not the best place to live. Everybody here is busy making ends meat. Trees here are not bearing money to pick it up. In as much as possible you must have three to four jobs to pay your taxes, mortgages, car loans and others. You don’t even have time to enjoy. And mind you this situation will become worst after the 2010 Vancouver Winter Olympics. If you have heard and seen those statistical data through our modern technology such as; internet, television, radios and newspapers, those were just factual information that hasn’t been proven throughout the Olympic history. Many of those countries who’ve hosted this kind of event suffered from deep debts. To name a few are Montreal who just happened to pay their debt after three decades, Salt Lake City who’s until now on their way of solving the economic downfall, Turin, Italy and many others. It’s the taxpayers who are handling the problems created by bureaucracy and managed by the greediness of the government officials and the elite groups who happens to be part of the International Olympic Committee.
     What’s happening now to China is an eye opening for all nations. Demonstrations on streets can be seen around the world, mass killings and many others. These were the results of abusive empowerment of people in position. In Vancouver, you can see more of the result of the Olympic preparations in the east-side of the city with many homeless citizen. With these, people should be aware of the false impressions created by the VANOC officials on Olympic venue sites. Human deficit has been created by unscrupulous government officials of British Columbia who have failed in social policy on its inhabitants.
     People of all nations, it’s time for us again to fight back. We don’t need high explosives or heavy devices. We only need “MASS CONSCIOUSNESS”, the power of mind intent. This is the most effective way to prove our worth. This is a tool to change weather patterns. Yes, February 2010 will be rainy, foggy and windstorms may occur to southern coastal regions of British Columbia if we will join together using our mind. We could completely wash-out Olympic Organizers and its allies. This will be a great humiliation to the whole world.
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