Rationalians would probably be the "reality-based community," of which BushCo are proud non-members of. The Faith-Based/Reality-Denying group. (From an article that got a lot of comment here a coupla weeks ago--I'll try to find the link later)

New Comments Thread. Please post there.

Hey Fistlekits, could you please explain to me who the Rationalians are. I have never heard of this expression before.

The U.S. of C. actually sounds like a great idea.

I always did think that the Bush-worshippers should found a country of their own... and the Rationalians should do the same.

Eminem vs. Bush:
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cf...onID=51&ItemID=6534

Long live the United States of Canada! Vote Kill Kill/Byron '08!

Welpers, I was going to post something to show why Billy boy shouldn't be watching CNN's site for anything, but the page has been so flooded that it's down except for members!

Basically, I saw it last night, that CNN fudged their exit poll figures. They had screen captures and some forumlas that showed that even if they had found another bunch of people AFTER THE POLLS CLOSED to vote, they would have had to drop a bunch of Kerry votes to equal the amount of boosting that Bush got in numbers. Oh, and Kerry was in the lead, till the numbers all across the board for all the states were changed to put Bush in the lead.

Rather interesting and slightly worrisome. I didn't trust CNN for anything before, but now I really wonder who we're supposed to trust... Insert Stalin quote here.

I know all you guys are worried about the election results, but now you can stop worrying now. Davey's faith in democracy has been restored.

Whew, for a minute there I was really scared.

*claps* Finally, someone made a pic of that. Beautiful.

Here's the best idea I've ever seen:
http://house.style.net/usa.jpg

Geek test, wow I am a Jedi Master. I will admit that knowing quite a few programming languages, including assembly (about 8 varieties) and machine code probably bumped me into the Jedi Master class. Add to this that I have never had anything to do with miniatures and do not own a trench coat.

I think I might go and do some binary maths.

See, I issued that retroactive apology yesterday afternoon because I was in a room full of lower-middle & working class American women, all of whom were voting for Bush, so that (and the polls) indicated what was about to ensue. (Well, my parents voted for Bush too, but at least I understand their reasons for doing so, even if I can't exactly agree. :::Reference here the ?Disraeli? quote about how if one is not a liberal when young, one has no heart, and if not a conservative when old, one has no head:::)

Okay, I just tried to locate that exact quote and failed, but liked this one anyway: Once at a social gathering, Gladstone said to Disraeli, "I predict, Sir, that you will die either by hanging or of some vile disease." Disraeli replied, "That all depends, sir, upon whether I embrace your principles or your mistress."

I have at least two friends who previously told me they were thinking of emigrating to NZ--Peter Jackson has a lot to answer for!--if Kerry didn't win, so now I get to try and come up with reasons to make them stay here in the US. At least neither of them are gay, which would make the argument that much more difficult now.

And on a completely ephemeral/Thanks To Our Hulky Friends In the North tangent--Ernst, thanks again for the geek quiz! I only scored in the 'casual geek' category (dang...I lost, like, 300+ points in the 'non-geek' criteria! Who knew?), but I respectfully submit the argument that I deserve at least another 50 pts. for immediately noticing that they misspelled both "Tolkien" and "Gaiman"!

"Mimi-- I'd aim for New Zealand" - I agree, us Aussies did no better at our recent elections. We somehow put the garden gnome back into office. NZ is a really nice place anyway, especially if you like working in the city and living in a rural environment. I went there a few years ago, on business, and I was amazed at how little time it took to travel from a landscape of rolling green hills to the mayhem of the city.

Edited by author 11-03-2004 03:23 PM
Hey, as the electronic vote-o-matic rig-u-lators become more and more widespread, how hard do you think it will be to arrange a constitutional amendment allowing as many terms for a president as he feels like pursuing? Or, perhaps, decade-long terms? Man alive, those gizmos are a conspiracy theorist's best friend!

Mimi-- I'd aim for New Zealand: English speaking, very distant (unlike Canada), and not quite so politically chummy with the US (unlike Oz, and Canada in a complex sine-wave).

Hmm. It just seems so odd. I don't know anyone who voted for the man. I mean, I didn't vote for Kerry (and NO, I did not vote for Nader, thank you very much; I defected from the Republican party for the Libertarians long ago), but when I was talking to people in line at my polling place, Kerry was the topic of conversation. There was one Bush voter who was in line that was obvious, mainly 'cause he pulled up in a big 'ole pickup with "Bush '04" stickers on the back. Still, my county (Orange county, FL) was basically 50/50; maybe I was just in the Kerry half. I guess the only upshot is that at least after this he'll be done for good. Unless he skips a term and tries to come back...I need to stop talking now. :)

*downloading migration packs for Canada and Australia*

Either Bush wins, giving us four more years of playground bully idiocy, or Kerry wins by the electoral college again reversing the popular vote. Christ, what a day.

I guess conceding was the only thing Kerry could have done to avoid another drag-out battle like Florida 2000. It's so unlikely he'd have won anyway.

Still... CRAP. Crap on a crap cracker.

*headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk*

*sob*

God's teeth and elbows. My wife's just seen Kerry on TV, giving a concession speech.

Sorry.

Edited by author 11-03-2004 09:55 AM
how could Kerry POSSIBLY play more into the bastard's hands than Bush has?

BtS beats me to the mot juste. I'd recently read a slack-jaw proclaiming that Bush was doing everything right about terrorism, because stuff was blowing up elsewhere. BRILLIANT! Not only is he helping out with recruiting, but he's shipping over victims at the expense of their own families! If I were bin Laden, I'd be putting GWB in my prayers.

...and given the way the vote stands right now, it looks like Allah is attentive to his wayward follower. Man, democracy really doesn't work, does it? There should have to be some kind of basic intelligence and current events awareness testing before people are handed a ballot.

Lilly: Dragged to an SCA event, eh? Well, like the IRA and the Commies; once in, never out. Muahahaha! Apparently the FBI keeps tabs on the SCA because it's got a "shadow government" in place for all of North America. You may now tip over with helpess mirth. I have!

Lilly:
Well, don't go over the top when I report that today I got DEVO's The Complete Truth About De-Evolution DVD today. (Although it isn't--Hendrix's estate wouldn't let them include the "Are You Experienced" video)

Re bin Laden: I think that the video tape indicates that he doesn't care who wins. And which of 2 people who both say they want to kill you would you vote for?
Then again, how could Kerry POSSIBLY play more into the bastard's hands than Bush has?

Bill, citing Devo AND XTC? Are you trying to get me to propose?! Be still my heart...

I didn't need the BMI to know I score in the "overweight" category. I only have to be halfway conscious--maybe not even that--to know that someone of my build does not fit the societal ideal. (But I'm not bitter, and that's the main thing...nooooo, not me!)

Although actually--as I've pondered in my LJ before--it never ceases to amaze me (hee...happy NZ/Aussie music reference!) how often I get honked and yelled at every single day here in My Life As A Pedestrian. I'm usually the one who other gals go to for Y chromosome explanations, but the reasons for this male tendency escape me. Okay...you're indicating that I'm blonde, female, not obese...and evidently you approve! Thanks for that input!

(Actually, today I got yelled at by a woman for unknown reasons. "Hey, you, beautiful, walking there! Don't ever change!" Gee, thanks. I always take the advice of people who scream at me from passing cars!)

And Bill, I don't think Kills is especially big at 14 lbs. That's how much Thibault weighed, and he was a lean, mean, orange stripey machine...besides, my friend Beth has three cats, the *smallest* of which weighs 25 lbs. C'mon, Kills is a supermodel in comparison! (And other things we already knew.)

I haven't voted yet, but will do so when I get home. (My polling place is in the office of my apartment complex--handy, that.) Can I perhaps apologize to non-Yanks for what results may ensue? (Erm...not from me voting, but the entire country.) The smartest person I've ever known recently asked me who I think Bin Laden wants to win the election...feel free to discuss, or merely ignore. :)

In any case--Ernst, I look forward to taking the Geek quiz on the bus home. Considering today's pseudonym, I should get a relatively high score, even *if* I have zero miniatures points and only allowed myself to be dragged to an SCA event once. Of course, for me that was more than enough. :)

Oh, and welcome back to the land of the phone-enabled, Zeffy! Can I report to the gang here that young Zefiel has a very nice musical accent? (And he found out I talk way too fast...now there's a shock.)

Edited by author 11-02-2004 05:54 PM
Edit: No inline images? OK, here's a little bitty 2K GIF to show what I got up at 6:00 AM for.

Edited by author 11-02-2004 01:38 PM
You Aussies can do what you want, but I'm sitting this particular game out. Fish in a barrel isn't quite sporting.
To paraphrase an old playstation game-- Fish in a barrel? That's hard! Sometimes they hide at the bottom! I think the expression you seek is "like shooting MONKEYS in barrel!"

Speaking of monkeys-- vote early, vote often, you UnitedStateans! The rest of us will breathe a lot easier with zombie-look Kerry running things down there instead of the Commander-in-Chimp.

A quote from the news article, "Bed-wetting: the cure for bed-wetting was to eat a fried mouse"

Oh delicious, Kentucy Fried Rodent!

I LIVE AGAAAAAIN!!!

no, i just gots phone line back. tho i can't see previous messages, they freeze compy. ish nice to b back tho.

Pity there wasn't more time, I'd have asked him myself (little bluebriefcase being a future Demo, of course ;))

Is that a quote from the Internet's Most Dangerous Eminem fan, Davey "the self-proclaimed real mulletted Marshal Mathers"?
I've always considered Eminem to be a colossal dickhead--with this one exception. I wonder what Davey thinks of the Bush-hate from one of his idols.

Lav, I've actually been thinking that for years. I mean, what girl wouldn't want to go out with a guy who writes a song about killing his wife? And makes himself into a huge rap martyr? God, I'd be FIRST in line for that one, because I like getting slapped around, yelled at and mistreated. Mmmmm misogynists! I'm all hot just thinking about it.

"Eminem says fame ruined his love life."

You ever stop to think that maybe the fact that he's a loser ruined his love life? Huh?

Mimi, my inbox is still open.

See? It doesn't matter what I correct him on, he'll forget it five seconds later!

Yah Mimi, you made him say wrear again!

Pft, you are all no fun. Fine, I won't correct his spelling and I won't comment on the sketches... 9_9
I have no idea what happened to the urban Dictionary post....

You Aussies can do what you want, but I'm sitting this particular game out. Fish in a barrel isn't quite sporting.

Mimi, what happened to your Urban Dictionary entry? It's still not there. If you have it, can you post it here?

Bill said:"You could write them and someone else could post them"

I have an account an I am more than willing to post anything you may have to say.

I agree with Bill though, lets not show him his mistakes, it's what makes him Gonterific!

You can email me at steve-online at optusnet.com.au if there is anything you wish me to post.

"I'm still tossing up about creating a sockpuppet to rip into his sketches...
But I'm still not sure if he's capable of tracking IP addresses of posters."

You could write them and someone else could post them (but not me, as that'd lead him here). But...I think we're getting into stalker territory there...
1: I don't want to harass the already-paranoid guy. Yeah, he sucks, but I have no desire to make his life suck more. 2: I DON'T WANT HIM TO IMPROVE! Please don't tell him that "wrear" is spelled "wear"!

I blew the dust off my old XTC mix tape. I mean that literally, I blew dust off it. And by "old" I mean...Nothing newer than "Drums and Wires."
OLD MUSIC ROCKS! Six swans singing in the sauna! In the OUUUT-SIIIDE--WORRRLD!

Edited by author 10-31-2004 06:33 PM
I feel dirty now. Thanks, Bill ;p
Yeah, I saw the TV! And a coffee table too!

I'm still tossing up about creating a sockpuppet to rip into his sketches. That way I can rant with more adult cohesion ;)
But I'm still not sure if he's capable of tracking IP addresses of posters. Not a lot of point signing up to his sketch board if he spots that bluebriefcase comes from the same IP.

In kitty news, my cat is lying at the end of my bed snoring.
Does anyone else have a snoring pussy?

Goodlow's HUGE apartment costs $25 a week--but look at the 52 inch TV. WalMart must've had one of their "Get an HDTV for Pocket Change" sales again.

"Holy crud, he's on a role tonight!"
Tsk tsk, Mimi. You've obviously been spending too much time on his message boards! Beware the osmosis!! ;D
Mnenomic: "Davey's on a roll, just like he wishes he was IN ROLL."
Sorry about the mental image.

Yeah, I saw ARGH!!! last night, shocking, isn't it.
I did not post it as that sort of thing should not be shown in public, it is way to ghastly.

I think DVK really, really wants a big set of hooters all his own. I mean look at the size of them. They make Barbie look in proportion.

His head on a female body, even a furry one, is just sad.
Sad, sad, sad and wrong on so many levels that it makes my brain want to ooze out my ears and pool on the floor whimpering and convulsing in shock.
Bugger the playing cards they used in Iraq, just send this picture over. Shock and Awe!

Edited by author 10-31-2004 05:44 PM
http://www.deviantart.com/view/11823710/
Yes.. nothing like rigorous police training to prepare you for the nerve-shattering experience of finding a fursuit in a box.
http://www.deviantart.com/view/11873831/
Oh christ, here she comes. Typically of the GAPING holes Davey leaves in his characters' personalities, Jim, a gay cop, is immediately bonding with the fursuit. A normal person would go 'oh, it's a Halloween costume or something'. But no. Jim speaks Furry. 9_9

Edited by author 10-31-2004 05:36 PM
ARGH!!!
And in other news... Davey has a new minion. Unfortunately, she's wasting her talent:
A COMPETENT rendering of Scarlet
I'm guessing the artist is a fellow furrie, judging by the classic face design.
Holy crud, he's on a role tonight! Look what he's done to Snow White.
Snow has also picked up some tricks from her Evil Stepmother. 'Out of Necessity,' she says with a soft sigh of reqret. 'There comes a time where being popular gives way to defying gravity. Unfortunately this day and age is such a time.'
Okay, this tells me a few things:
Davey has seen or has the soundtrack to 'Wicked' (the popularity vs Defying Gravity reference). And he's still batshit. Observe:
You don't want to know what she does to an accusing lawyer who went out of line one time too many. Let's just say that Uncle Walt sugar-coated the Brothers Grimm's stories for a _reason_.
I'm not even touching that.

My entries for the competition.

1. Tara in a fox suit, obvious I know but I don't think he has the imagination to draw anything new.

2. Tara as Tinkerbell.

3. Tara as Mini Mouse, but with DVK ears, not Disney ears.

I was trawling the dark recesses of the GonterSite last night and I came across this gem of GonterArt.
It is about par for quality and style, it's the comments entitles "Learn how to draw, please." that crack me up.

Sausage legs, they have such a way with words.

I never put much stead in online BMI calculators. As negs said, they don't take into account enough other factors. According to online BMI calculators, I'm overweight. But when I made my first visit to an american MD, they checked the basics - weight, height, blood pressure, cholesterol.. and I'm officially in the healthy range.
Only a physical can tell you for sure.

Bill: re Gonter-suspicion.
Don't worry, I wasn't going to have my whacky friends all be Gonterfans, too.
Meanwhile:...guh?
The Backstory of 'Storm the Castle' is based on 'Return to Neverland,' for what it's worth:
Oh god. Not even my hard work escapes his literart rape!

Adam uses a Google Search and a jury-rigged device for an unrelated Programable Doll system (A concept stolen from Clamp's 'Angelic Layer') to revive what will be his pixie, Firestorm. She was suffering from the same unbelief-caused illness that Tinkerbell (Firestorm's more famous sister) fell under in the sequel. Old School Problem. High Tech Solution.
sooooo... the ONLY thing taken from RtN is that Firestorm also falls ill when people don't believe in fairies? That's not sequel or even DISNEY canon, that's JM BARRIE canon!( wonder if he's ever read the book, or even KNOWS that it was a book...)
So basically, Firestorm is Tara in Tinkerbell's body. Even down to Tara's red colouring *performs the Originality Ironic Slow Hand-Clap*

BMI is only a ratio of weight to height. It does not take into account whether the extra weight is muscle or fat. The number itself won't tell you how fit you are; you also have to take into consideration what the extra weight is, blood pressure, etc etc etc.

Slight change of topic here, but I saw I (heart) Huckabees today. Best. Existential. Comedy. Ever. It was like if They Might Be Giants made a movie.

How does that BMI thing work, anyway?...Muscle weighs more than fat. Does an online BMI test take that fact into consideration?

No! Hulk not fat! Hulk BIG! Hulk STRONG! Seriously, I've got a 52" chest and the only floppy fatty stuff I've got is an unpronounced slight bulge twixt belt and ribs. "Obese" indeed!

re Cosplay ideas:

"Davey, you should dress her up like one of those clueless MST3K people who always insulted your genius!!"
THAT could turn out to be interesting...

Ugh. To bed. I have to move a liquor store in 8 hours...

Mimi:
Be cautious when approaching Gonters. A terrestrial, day-active animal, they are easily startled by concrit or loud noises, and will attack aggressively and often incoherently.
Even he might wonder why your "wacky friends" have such clear concepts of his obsessions.
I guess, that if we want it to work, we need to narrow the costume choice to something we'd find hilarious but he'd be too clueless to catch.
Hmmm...Which Queer Eye Guy most resembles Nitwit?

How does that BMI thing work, anyway? Killsy's at her maximum weight ever (14.5 lbs...Okay, M3, I've finally decided to admit that you're right, and I have a Really Big Cat). But that's up half a pound from when she was FAT, as she was eating kitten chow while Byron grew into cathood. She's in better shape than ever, since now it's all muscle. Muscle weighs more than fat. Does an online BMI test take that fact into consideration?

Man, they're going to have to go some to make the causality stick on that one-- there may be some kind of indication that stupid and toothless go together, but I think I can come up with some convincing arguments that the direction of causality runs the other direction (Hey, Vern! Watch me bite the top off'n this bottle o' hooch! *crunch* Aw, nupfs...)

No one but me might get the connection between a Bukoff reference and...
Lose your teeth, get stupider.

Edited by author 10-30-2004 08:19 PM
This cat is unreasonably terrifying. Around here, magpies are considered an incarnation of the trickster god Wisakejak (sp? gah), and will occasionally be called Whiskey Jacks. Much power to the cat that nabs one of them, they're a pretty substantial bird.

I'm sticking the subsequent link in at the request of a friend who is currently on Google's do-not-call list. Click on it or not, we're just trying to mess with the search engine; it's a Japanese pop culture store very far from where you live.
http://www.tokyo7.com

BMI, well according to the site I went to I am just in the overweight region. I am 6'2" and 198lbs with a BMI of 25.4
I could stand to lose a little around the stomach, middle age spread sucks, but I cannot do much in the way of exercise at the moment.
Love the angry cats, my cat is around 13yrs old, in his younger days he used to climb telegraph poles and bring down magpies, a large black and white bird similar to a crow. He would also hide under the dining table at night, if you got the urge to relieve yourself then he would come running out and wrap his claws around your calf and have a chew. Great way to wake up that one.
He is a lot more mellow these days, he still wanders around the neighborhood during the day, but he is in bed by 7pm at the latest each night.
His name is Pepe, after the famous cartoon skunk, as he is mostly black but with a white chest and a big fluffy black tail.

Oh, fie on Body Mass Indices! I'm 6'1" and 260lbs, which means according to the BMI I'm obese, as at this height I should be between 144-189 pounds. Hooey! I don't deny I've got excess fat at the waist, but not 80 pounds of it! Maybe 15, and the only other place I could hide it is space I'm pretty sure is taken up with organs. Stupid BMI. HULK SMASH PUNY DIET DOCTORS! RAAARG!

I found a site which I share here only for it's image of a '50s housewife with a bottle of Bukoff. Which I've never seen in a liquor store up here, hooray.

Lav: That's super cool! Perhaps coming soon: helms that get rid of their own dents... although medical and metallurgical science are probably better occupied elsewhere.

We have not had new kitty linkage for a while:
http://www.mycathatesyou.com

They released a book of the best photos recently. I laughed so hard I nearly stopped breathing. Right in the middle of B&N. Needless to say, we bought the book ;)

"I would love to make myself a sword or a really wicked axe."

Oh, it's far geekier than that. For example, I now know molten steel is made from blasting iron with a supersonic wave of pure oxygen, creating a chemical reaction at 3000F. I also know that the stainless steel used to make artificial heart valves is combined with chromium, so that instead of rusting when it touches oxygen, it actually reforms itself, fixing its own scratches and damages.

Edited by author 10-30-2004 11:09 AM
I'll post these suggestions to him. I'll say I asked some whacky friends for ideas ;)

When I've thought up some of my own.... ;)

Bill - that would be Tinkerbell.

According to the Body Mass Index calculator I check, your BMI is 19.6, just underweight, 4th percentile. Right now I'm 5'5" and 110 (actual probably a bit lower for reasons you don't want to know) which gives me a BMI of 18.3, 2nd percentile. Whoop-dee-freakin'-doo.

"my size 6 little bod"

Verdammt, but you're twiggier than even the 5'7 125-lbs of me!
Not having spent a lot of time wearing women's clothes, if Neg's a size 6, what's a size one? A woman composed entirely of hydrogen atoms?

Lilly - I understand the space/floor issue. So did the makers of the game - every time a warning screen pops up to tell you to clear a decent space to dance in, be considerate of neighbors with the vibrations, and stuff. I play on the ground floor, which is right on a cement foundation, so no problem. If I played it on the second floor my neighbors would hate me.

Nah, I'm not putting too much strain on my size 6 little bod. I walk miles a day, and can (and often do) add an extra few miles without a problem. I play DDR less than an hour a shot, more like 30-45 minutes, most of it in workout mode so I can count calories burned. Yes, I keep hydrated - I have to keep a glass of water to sip between sets, 'cause the faster ones will dry me out something awful! Dunno about potassium, but I eat a balanced diet with a lot of fruits and veg, so I think I'm OK.

Bill - a Bush KiSS doll! Ew, now I feel filthy for using "Bush" and "kiss" in the same sentence. 8^p

Everyone will get a chuckle out of Bush Dress-Up, but a certain aquatic water fowl may enjoy it more.

And I am SO NOT obsessing over DVK in order to avoid thinking about this coming Tuesday!
(Or is that spelt "Twosday"?)

Edited by author 10-29-2004 11:14 PM
I heard a story of a large batch of specialty steel being ruined by a worker falling into it-- screwed up the carbon balance. ACTION and PERIL in the world of STEEL REFINING!

When the Gont mentioned his thesaurus and dictionary, he described them as lying on the floor. Maybe if he moves them and opens them, some transformation in his writing will occur. As Bill points out, tho', it would help EVEN MORE if he'd actually read something. He also claims to own Stephen King's On Writing, which makes exactly the same damn suggestion. Several times, if I recall correctly....

I have been meaning to mention the speeling (intentional) of twoard, I also think that twoday and a few others get the same treatment. I was also going to point out 'dictonary' when he was discussing how he proofs his works but I thought I may be being a little shallow with that one.

My current pathetic hobby is doing Gonter-research, erally sad I know. I seem to have missed the wonder years of mass MSTing and I am only just catching up on all his works.

So I think refining steel is a way cooler hobby than what I am currently engaged in. I would love to make myself a sword or a really wicked axe.

Oh dear.

http://www.deviantart.com/view/11823731/

Outside of the fact that the dress looks like it'd fit only one of those Indonesian Hobbit People, it's pretty darn clear at this point that Davey really thinks that those words are spelled "wrear" and "twoard." He's been spelling them like that for years.
Don't mess her too much too soon!
Why is it that every time someone talks, you see their tongue? Is that some anime hommage, or is it just weird?

I've only got a second-category entry for the contest, and... I'm very, very sorry: Roboticized Stan Lee/Tentacle Hentai thingy. It's what Gontie make my brain paint.

When dealing with tragically pathetic hobbies (said the SCA member), there are ways of quantifying the problem.

Negs--yes, well, aside from the fact that my tv only has about two feet of space between the dresser it's on and my bed, it's not like there'd be enough space to for me to dance anyway (not that that stops me from occasionally taking my keekat Sophie for a quick waltz out in the living room, though).

Besides, I live upstairs, and even though the guy below me is more or less deaf, I don't wanna incur any neighborly ill will, ya know? Given that I am *not* a size 6 like certain people, there probably would be some noise involved. (Are you sure this type of strenuous activity is okay for someone of your teensy ilk? Stay hydrated and watch those potassium levels, k? :)

Bill--the only song I knew from that list was the UB40 and Robert Palmer cover, which was popular when I lived in the U.K. and I always liked, so what do I know. (I also adored the Live Aid attendee's report linked therein. http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/story/0,13887,1325686,00.html)

And since I'm kickin out alla dem linky jams, I thought of you when I saw this yesterday: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3952239.stm

Sounds fairly reasonable to me; it's not like any public figure is little more than fiction dreamed up by publicity departments anyway. (Gee, cynical much?)

I vote we get Tara in a penguin suit, but according do his DeviantArt account it is a sailor moon outfit.
Great idea Bill, but the contest may be over before it began.

I now study steel refining as a hobby. If it weren't for those idiots who talk on the cell phone while going potty in the stall next to mine, I'd be the biggest loser ever.

Don't worry, you're in good company. I'm sure we all have our biggest-loser-ever stories. I once tried to teach myself New Testament Greek back in high school. As you can imagine, I was a big hit at parties.

My choices for Tara's cosplay:

1) Gonterman himself (not hard since all his characters have the same body)
2) Marcie Mouse
3) Kill Kill (it would be cute if it didn't hurt my brain so much!)

Edited by author 10-29-2004 02:27 AM
I now study steel refining as a hobby. If it weren't for those idiots who talk on the cell phone while going potty in the stall next to mine, I'd be the biggest loser ever.

Edit: Oh yeah, and Gontie.

Y'know...Davey's been writing quite coherently recently. For weeks. Just an observation, but I wonder why the abrupt change after all these years. Maybe he really proofreads now?

Edited by author 10-29-2004 12:47 AM
Just to explain, here's my example of category three:
(Sorry, I can't draw no good, so just try to picture it in your heady brain parts)
"Sailor Sonic the Platypus"

Edited by author 10-29-2004 12:37 AM
CHALLENGE TO THE COMMENTS COMMUNITY, from Davey himself:

"As for the cosplaying, you're in luck, because Tara is dipping into her cosplay collection for Nitsan in Livewire Latte... Any suggestions for what you want to see Tara in?"

Davey, that quiet noise in the background isn't crickets...It's teeth and claws, sharpening...

I may actually run a contest here, with glorious prizes! Okay, maybe a Best Buy or (your local) grocery store gift certificate for $10 for first place, and a $5 BIG!Lots (or your local junque store) one for second. And for third, a Dream Date with Davey! At the St Louis MacDonalds.

Preliminary categories: (preliminary as I'm making this up on the spot, off the top of my head, and out of my ass)
FIRST PLACE! Davey uses your suggestion!
SECOND! Don't submit this one to DVK, but come up with the funniest DVK-themed cosplay that you can! Can be funny cuz it's just dumb, or cuz it's just dumb enough he might use it!
THIRD! Oh I don't know. Something that doesn't fit in the above two categories, ie, non-Davey themed cosplay or...something, drawing, writing, whatever. Would you really want that prize anyway? Maybe I'll get you a $5 gift certificate. To Wendy's or Subway, where the food's actually edible.

I'll be the judge, because...I'm the judge! Do NOT submit entries to Davey directly; if she's willing, our Trojan Cat Mimi will use her influence to subvert the process.

And, yes, there will be the FABULOUS PRIZES! Or approximations of the above. Nothing that's going to cost me more than $20 total, though.

EDIT: Contest ends when Davey releases the LiveWire strip using the costume. This is beyond our control. But, given that this is Davey, and the breakneck speed with which LiveWire does not unfold, could be either a week or a few months.

Mimi:
As I hope you can see from our simultaneous postings, that was directed at the community, not just you.

"Or one of those 70s era "Hey Iran!" stickers with Mickey flicking people off, something Mickey would not do today. (Though JB might. Or Mickey during the depression era.)"

Davey...he...he thinks that the "Ayatollah is an Azzahola" things were Disney-sanctioned?!
He thinks that a cartoon character in the 1930s regularly gave the finger?
My god! He...Okay, okay. I can accurately date things from what lettering font they used in their pamphlets. I'm just weird that way. I understand where American minds were in this or that decade in the past, and what was or wasn't acceptable in the mass media of the time. But he thinks it was not only socially acceptable but corporate-sanctioned to say "Fuck you!" during the 1930s?!?!
My god. He's the Boy in the Bubble. No real-world experience of the present, no understanding of the past. Reality is what He decides it is.
Explains everything, doesn't it?

Mimi, you are the lead researcher in the science of Gont-anthropology. You are giving us breaktroughs in our understanding of <i>Homo Gonterpithecus</a>.
(Or is that "QueerEyus Gonterpithecus?" :)

Me am also bad. Pretty blue letters show what I read.

Late night, long at work. Awful Solomon Grundy-ish feeing.

Edited by author 10-29-2004 12:08 AM
Sorry /_\ I'm very lazy at providing links, I know.... here.

New posts made here and in the same thread linked above.

The Comments is our page, not mine, but can I make a request?

When posting something from Davey's forums, can we have either a direct link or at least a hint as to where we should look? Or a copy&paste of the post? Dunno about you, but I have neither the time nor the inclination to read every one of his threads or look at every "last posting" date to figure out what's that one post that's being referred to. Just a thought.

Edited by author 10-28-2004 11:50 PM
Me:And a cartoon balloon coming out of his mouth saying 'Eisner sucks big hairy goat's eggs!'
or something
Davey: ROTFL! That's something JB would actually say.

Gawd, even when I actually insert some veiled sarcasm, it hits the wall over his head.
I doubt Davey could ever attain that level of wit, anyway ;)

Hey, maybe if I play this right, I could be elevated to Provider of Threats and Derogatory Bon Mots to the Mickey Rip-off!

Erch... I made Daveykins ROTFL... I feel so dirty....

Hyeah... "people" say he shows aptitude and spirit.. 9_9 I believe Chutzpah is the word we need here.
From The Free Dictionary:
(Yiddish) unbelievable gall; insolence; audacity

Yup, thas Daveykins.
But 'aptitude'? The only people telling him that live in his head.

Edited by author 10-28-2004 11:17 PM
Just noticed a posting over at the Gonterpit-- VERY convincing, with the emoticons and all. Way to tamp down the urge to edit! From his response:People say that I show a lot of aptitude and spirit in my writing; I just have common mistakes in the grammer department. To me, that just means that I need to make friends with a proofreader or editor. ...or maybe someone who's been taking ESL classes for a few months and paid attention. COMMON mistakes?! Credit where it's due, tho'-- it's an admission of error, which is unusual.

I think it was Mimi that pointed out the fewer/less than issue (or was it Lav?). In either case, THANK YOU! That showed up on a lame test for the second temp agency, and I smiled as I circled Fewer. :)

The GIANT FISH is gone. However...

I saw on the news last night that there was a water spout due to the oddball weather here. And we all know how it "rains frogs" sometimes. So maybe the water spout picked up some enormous, erm, sea fishie thing! Of course, then it'd have to float 10 miles to land in an alley. Where there were no other sea fishes around. But hey, it's an idea.

Edited by author 10-28-2004 06:43 PM
No eclipse here in the upper middle, either (man, I hope no one from Wollaston Lake or Uranium City reads that), although the fine mist which rolled in late in the day stayed ALL day today. Super Hallowe'en-y! [claps hands gleefully like 250lb. moron given a treat... which is dangerously close to the truth]

The up side to not seeing the eclipse? Well, when the triffids start marching, we'll all be well set up.

Lily - That's why I got a home version! It looked like fun in the arcade, but the hell I want people watching my first fumbling attempts. So I watched and got a bundle of game & pad for a good price on eBay, and have been playing it since I got it a week ago. It's a good way to work out, and it counts the calories for you.

When I get really good at it I'll play it in the arcade. And with my fantastic moves I'll get hot chicks!

S'ok, Bill--exact same thing here happened on the Left Coast re: the eclipse. The most I got to see through all the cloud cover was a dim light that was ostensibly the moon only because it was too high up to be a distant streetlamp.

I can't believe you guys actually try those machines. I already humiliate myself in public enough without trying to ever go near such things. Why advertise even more my wacky lack o' motor skills?

Ernst, I am SO telling that story next month at Thanksgiving! :)

Edited by author 10-28-2004 01:30 PM
The only DDR I've ever played is the one with the hand-motion sensors instead of the foot pads. That was pretty fun :)
And I wouldn't say they benefit just the lazy.. also those of us who really don't have the lower limb strength to manage the industrial-strength foot pads. Seeing other people dancing on them, man, you gotta STOMP those arrows to register the move ;)

edit: Wow... congrats folks, Gonterwaffle caused the ads to change! Unfortunately, these ads should REALLY be showing over on foxfire ;)

Whoa, did I hit a nerve there or what? Sorry, replace "copycat" with "similar."

I'm not THAT upset at them. they're good guys. one even likes anime too. also, i can play at the same time as them and kinda improve. tho i nearly DIED the only time i tried it, they're that fast and i had to force myself to keep up.

Edited by author 10-27-2004 09:59 PM
i'm not even that good at the machine. couple of coworkers at the school are far better. 'course, they must weight a good 60 pounds less than me.

If you've got that much of a weight advantage, invite them to play "old school DDR". As the nimble proletarian, they have to climb a barb-wire-topped concrete wall at the end of an alley before the Stazi thug (you) catches them trying to flee the workers paradise and pounds their kidneys into undifferentiated paste.

Yeah, I've got some rage issues to do with my work as well, but unfortunately it's mainly not with the co-workers. Actually, FORTUNATELY, as I'm not interested in seeing the inside of even a soft Canadian jail.

Edited by author 10-27-2004 09:47 PM
"Thinking you can write when you never read is like thinking you can learn to be an airline pilot by driving your car."

Is that like thinking you could get down with flying a plane just because you've played lots of flight sims? i mean, i can drive a car...

What will he write about, his torrid love affair with Sally Acorn?

Didn't he try to already once?

GO DDR THREAD GO!

edit: Mimi, they actually are playing the game - if you look carefully, they are actually hitting the arrows onscreen as they dance.

That's right, and as lame as the choreography looks, it's because they had to fit the arrow hittin' part on it.

And, purely as a point of trivia, that's not a DDR machine, but a copycat game.

Arr!! you do not say that about "Pump it up"!!!! there WAS a lawsuit, and Andamiro (which makes that machine) WON the hell out of Konami. so there. i think it's even older than DDR. now, this could start a mighty debate (not likely, since not many people play, let alone care about DDR) but i've heard and agree that the diagonal and center arrows feel more natural that the up down left right setup.

And Pump it up is the machine that's most popular in mexico. (hell, andamiro, a korean company, had to make a mexico only webpage) DDR scrapes some attention, mostly because it can be console played (someday i'll get an xbox version for the workout mode) but their abuse of the techno makes it a bit dull. Pump it up has an INSANE gamut of music genres. old machines allowed you to dance to 'take on me' by aha and other blasts from the past.

Maybe not all DDR machines have pads that light up when you step on the sensors, but all the ones I've seen have.

Some are broken. a quick tour around arcades here will show that most have had the lights broken somehow.

The waving your hands one is supposed to make you use your feet too, but people is too lazy. besides, they look like they're doing the macarena all the time when they're using that machine.

there. sorry i ranted so much, i'm not even that good at the machine. couple of coworkers at the school are far better. 'course, they must weight a good 60 pounds less than me.

Dammit! Crystal clear night until the moment the eclipse begins, and then the clouds roll in.

Waitaminnit--he gets $75 a week?! How many hours does he work, 12? Even assuming that he means net pay and he's making only minimum wage, he can't be working more than 16 hours. Two shifts! A week!

Reading between the lines, I think this answers some questions I've had:
He does NOT live in his mother's basement. He uses the "momma's basement" line to deride his worse-than-the-terrorists critics. He lives in his old bedroom at momma's.
If he can't get more than 2 days a week out of MCDONALD'S...he really is just as obnoxious as he comes across as a stream of electrons. Since the interpersonal relationships he depicts in his works don't bear a great resemblance to ones actual people have, that ain't a big surprise.

I would pity this guy and then forget about him if it wasn't for the ego. I mean, the character-stealer's going to be a novelist? What will he write about, his torrid love affair with Sally Acorn?

Edited by author 10-27-2004 09:14 PM
"If I somehow end up doing comics for a living, more power to me. But if I were more realistic, I would say that I would probably end up writing novels, something I need to spend more time doing, I must confess."

My jaw actually dropped when I read that. I avoid reading his unMysted texts like I'd avoid kicking a skunk. The garbled, run-on sentences, the made-up grammar, the constant switching of tenses--I've read paragraphs of his 3 times and still had no idea what the hell he was talking about.

This is the core problem with bad fanfic writers: they think that can become writers without ever having read a book. This is why theyy [EDIT: And theyy can't spell neither!] write fanfics based on TV shows; they don't know anything else. I can't parse a sentence, but I can write a parsable one. That comes from reading. Thinking you can write when you never read is like thinking you can learn to be an airline pilot by driving your car.

And what's so bad about $300 a month? You can rent THREE harrible places for that kinda dough!

Edited by author 10-27-2004 09:09 PM
Giant fish story reminds me of another, sadly apocryphal (I'd cite it if I could):

A family thanksgiving is in the final stages before dinner, and the turkey is brought forth. It is set aside to rest (which is wise with meats) while other items are finalized. In defence against the family pets, the turkey is put atop the fridge.

Small emergencies further delay matters, but at length Tom is presented to his admirers. Shortly, admiration of the cripsy brown bird turns to wonder as it starts rocking gently... and mewing.

Apparently new-mom-cat had decided that the hubbub of the house was a worry for her litter, so she transferred them one-by-one to the inside of a ready source of food. The trip of course included a leap the height of the fridge, with a kitten stuck in her face. Man, them cats, eh?

Oh, and to do my duty AND give the ad-bar a conniption: Just, just just, just, just just au jus just. Just.

$300 a month?!? I dunno how things work in St Louis, but around here that's not even enough for a decent apartment, let alone electricity and food. My part-time student job pays better than that.

The real irony in that sentence is that he was previously talking about getting a job as a writer. I've read your writing, Davey, and there's no way in hell Wizards is gonna hire you if you can't even master the concept of using the proper tense. It "just" ain't gonna happen.

I never understood DDR. Of course, I have no rhythm, and I don't really enjoy watching others with little or no talent look like fools, sooooo. Yeah. When you said "hot" I expected making out or something. Or stripping. You're a tease!

OK, new cat story. Because this is fucking ridiculous and I WISH I had a digital camera.

Last night was a harrible rain storm, I saw Noah pointing and laughing, swear to gourd. In fact, our transformer on the line went out with a very bright flash and a very loud bang. Preceeding all of this was a very sad little meowing from the alley. It went off and on and eventually stopped.

So today I was walking past the alley on the way home and left some bread crumbs from my hot dog, figuring hey, bread is better than nothing, when I stop in my tracks and do a double take.

There is a GIANT FISH laying on the stairs in the alley, amid the old cat food plates.

I cannot emphasize how GIANT the GIANT FISH is. It's at least two feet long, a good foot wide at the center, and probably five inches thick.

GIIIIIANT.

Now who the F&#@ throws an enormous fish to a couple alley cats!?!?!? I mean, once again, their point of existence here is to hunt for food. Not get a GIANT FISH dropped down on them.

A black cat I've never seen before sniffed the fin then licked all the other plates clean. He obviously has NO idea what to do with a fish. I'm not sure if the two white cats do. And I haven't seen the calico kittens at all lately. I'll keep an eye on it, it's in the alley below my window.

If no one eats it soon, I'm calling maintenance. I don't need no stinking fish stank floating on up.

Pft. Giant fish for alley cats. Some people...

DVK wrote:"I would just chuck them both and just settle for just working at McDonalds, but $300 a month just doesn't appeal to anyone, doesn't it."

I just don't know, is it just me or just this sentence that just doesn't make sense and uses 'just' just two or three time just too many.

Just, Just, Just Hooray!

Even though I told him to change that 'harrible' mispelling, notice I didn't suggest he put quote marks around it, which would make it clearest that it's not a Gontyism. It's more fun if people keep thinking he can't spell. Ah well... I did try...*sigh*

Edited by author 10-27-2004 09:32 AM
Gah. Make me feel like more of a spaz, why don't you! I just got the game, and I'mgetting the hang of it, thoughI'd still look like a lamer if I played it in the arcade where we do Rocky.

DDR is fun. At least, until those damn arrows gather their strength up for a big ambush. At least they don't do that in workout mode, where I do most of my stomping.

Edit: Mimi, they actually are playing the game - if you look carefully, they are actually hitting the arrows onscreen as they dance. And, purely as a point of trivia, that's not a DDR machine, but a copycat game. The arrows point diagonally instead of up, down, right, left. I've seen ones like that. There's even one in my arcade that works based on waving your hands instead of moving your feet. Now even the lazy can play!

As for the guy on crutches - if that's for real, it's impressive, especially if he had any combos in there. However, I'm a little suspicious because the pad didn't light up. Maybe not all DDR machines have pads that light up when you step on the sensors, but all the ones I've seen have.

NOTE TO NON-PHRACK WHORES:

What's sauce for the Gont is sauce for the gander. If you have a topic besides the Internet's Most Clueless Cartoonist, feel free to start a thread!

I see how today's Scarlett PI is exactly the same pic he posted on Deviant for daybreakcat to concrit...Already he's ignoring the advice.

I was already checking his forum every other day anyway....

Now all we need to do is create a sockpuppet account and start commenting on his sketches >:).....

Zef: Iiiii... don't get it. Two Korean girls doing a half-arsed dance routine on a DDR machine. Without actually using the machine. huh.

Edited by author 10-26-2004 09:42 PM
http://www.crudpot.net/viewfile.php?id=118

DDR One legged with crutches.

Edit: it is 5.66MB and the site is a little slow.

http://www.piugame.com/movie/youri-youki.wmv

(it's like 4 megs)

This is why the DDR kinda games crowd is so.. uh.. i don't know. it's HOT, and dorky and HOT. and.. i don't know. *waves self* whoo.

"(sorry if all this is getting to spam levels... Bill, it's your board. I can shut up if it's getting annoying...)"

Keep right on going on going on. Makes up for me not posting.

If anything tips him off, it'd be the sudden increase in the forum pageviews. If he wasn't an egomaniac, anyway.

I know, I've gotta watch that. It's really hard, y'know! ;)
In any case, I doubt Davey(or anyone on that forum) would smell a troll unless I started being inflammatory. If I play nice, he's good as a lamb ;)
nah, if I wanted to make Davey hot and hard, I'd have to add 'I like to pretend I'm a teenage Sally Acorn when I cosplay.. I have the CUTEST ears and tail that took me aaaages to make but look so cool!' >:)
(sorry if all this is getting to spam levels... Bill, it's your board. I can shut up if it's getting annoying...)

Comments rock... at the speed of a bullet! So... many... posts! Makes a guy need to go to the drug store and buy a 500g Cadbury Fruit & Nut to keep up strength.

Mimi, you need to make more spelling mistakes and be slightly less articulate if you're going to keep up your cover. You don't want to be dragged off the the DVKGB's interrogation cells-- they only pay $25 a quarter in rent!

Mimi:
Hey, I didn't say *I* cosplayed

Either did I, you just mentioned 16yr and teenage cosplay in the same sentence. I had a mental picture of DVK getting all hot, hard and sweaty just thinking about it. It made me want to laugh and puke at the same time, what an amazing emotion. I did like the fundies comment as well.

Ah, I see that his right hand man has joined in as well.

Bill, you don't need no news when the comments rock!

Edited by author 10-26-2004 11:59 AM
Well, that's kind of the point. I'm not TRYING to make him mad, just give the quintessential Deep Davey Thoughts. Which is where some of his best material comes from ;)
Besides, trolling someone on their own board is not exactly good etiquette. I'm working undercover, not packing the heavy artillery.
Hey, I didn't say *I* cosplayed, I said that teens DO at anime conventions. ;p Why, think I should say that I do? ^_^
But hey, at least we know now he's thinking of going to cons... *rubs hands*....
And that Gontermockers are worse than Islamic Fundies. Whoo-hoo!

Mimi, you have had some feedback from the man himself. He must be on his good mesd though as he is using a lot of smileys and doesn't seem to have taken any of the bait you threw out.
16yr cosplay, you naughty naughty girl ;-)

KITTIEEES! MUST HAVE KITTIEEEES!!!!.....^.^

(very tardy) RE: the Tv-b-gone, that's why i wanted so bad that casio remote controller watch when i was like 13. even if i would've had to carry the book with the tv codes around.

Also, Bill, don't think of this (the page) as only your hobby. true, it's that for you, but i think it can be also one of the things most people want. (or few people want, but want a lot) the power to be heard, and appreciated, understood and even maybe emulated. people have said it, you've kinda shaped our minds and made us addict to the kitties. i mean, how many people can brag that their cats are not only the cutest to them, but to others too?

I just thought i'd drop by to leave some emotional blackmail ;)

True, true. If I popped the things every day, I'd probably need the harder stuff to dull pain, but I also have an extremely high pain threshold ;)
Actually, our supermarket has Cadbury's stuff, too, including Violet Crumbles. It's just pricey ;)
I have a block of Cadbury's whole nut in the cupboard now which I am rationing carefully.
What friends back home send me are usually Twisties - a cheesy corn snack which is extremely yummy and leaves Cheetos in the DUST, but which can't be found in the US.
Which reminds me, I haven't had any in a LONG time (goes to bug co-called friends ;p)...

Edited by author 10-25-2004 07:02 PM
Mimina, you're *such* a lightweight. :) And prices? You wanna talk prices? $127 for 150 Vicodin-ES (brand). $118 for 60 Zoloft (brand--they don't make generic, the bastards). Most recently, $96 for 150 Lortab-ES (generic). At least you've got *some* insurance, hon!

But speaking of Cadbury, last week I found Violet Crumble in my local supermarket, much to my amazed befuddlement (granted, that's my normal state even sans any painkillers). Do I need to send out a care package, or don't those folks back home take care of you?

Your guide to over-the-counter Australian drugs:
Panadiene - 15mg of codeine, plus the usual paracetamol. If you have prescriptions, like Steve probably has, there is also Panadiene Forte - DOUBLE the codeine. Damn, that's some good shite ;). After one of my operations, I asked them to take away the PCA(shoot-your-own morphine thing they had me hooked up to) and just give me the Forte. Happy camper :)
Mind you, two Advil puts me to sleep nicely
But damn, US drugs are pricey. My Pills cost me US$16 (no insurance coverage) for a *4 month supply* in Australia. The exact same Pill in the states costs me 7 bucks a month and that's WITH insurance coverage.
I can't even get decent chocolate here *sob*...GOD, I miss Cadbury's....

M3, I'd like a notebook with the Chicken Lady on it, too. Either Bill's LP version or the KiTH one, actually. ("She called her a pullet!") Though when I clicked to that page, I went, "Ohmigod, my brother had that England Dan and John Ford Coley album!" And I listened to it a lot, too. No wonder I turned out the way that I did.

As well, I am way sorry about your eastward-ho'ing, in the very least because this now means I don't get to go down to have coffee in LA with you sometime! ::snif::

Still, all friendship aside, I'll wrestle you to the floor for the ownership of any of Steve's painkillers, hon. (Guys, settle down. No chocolate pudding will be involved.) Hell, though, in Australia you can get codeine over the counter anyway (much like in Canada and other enlightened lands)--and from the sounds of it, the poor guy needs all available meds at his disposal right now, anyway. (I have some nice memories of Sydney and in particular a *very* friendly bus driver who went the extra mile to show this Yank a good time.) Get better soon, Steve!

re. Rich, The mod of Disney Echo. Oh good god yeah, whatta frothing Bushie! He spams that board with anything and everything.. even any news reports he finds relevant. As if his readers are incapable of reading Yahoo news or something. The majority of readers there appear to be right-leaning - anyone who voices a pro-Kerry opinion seems to get shouted down pretty fast.
But then, the mod has embraced Davey as one of the current forum stalwarts and LIKED the sketch of him Davey did. The man is odd. His wife, Carol(I assume she's his wife/sister, they share a surname) seems a lot more intelligent. She's the ONLY person I've seen who correctly used 'lot fewer' when most people use 'lot less'.

Steve: Dude! I'm a Sydney born-and-bred girl myself. Grew up and went to school in Strathfield, actually :)

Oh feh, I'm not a Gonterologist.^_^;
I'm more a field researcher. To me a Gonterologist is more of an archivist ;)
Negs is still ahead of me there, she's collected far more of his work than me. It's not like he BITES, I'm just setting up a front to ask him questions *shrug*

Edited by author 10-25-2004 03:13 AM
Well I'm sure there are other ways to make the notebooks. EDIT! I got it. If you ask for good color copies of the album covers,, then get them laminated, there ya go!

orrrrrrrr not.

anyway.

Yeah, I live in fear of slipping in the shower. My tub here is very tall and narrow and there's not a lot of room to misplace a foot. I always bring my cell phone to the bathroom with me when I shower, just in case I do fall and crack a rib, because otherwise I'd lay there till I died. And started rotting. Or the rent was due. Or they came up to see why the water meter was going nonstop for days. Either way, I'd be dead.

edit - man, anyone got an MP3 copy of AC/DC "sink the pink" they can send me? all the ones on Klite are the first 30 seconds of the song repeated endlessly. grrrrrrrr....

Bill, I always make sure I have a bath mat just outside the shower stall now, I do not want to imagine the type of pain I would be in if I slipped out of the shower again.

"Gonterologist" sounds like someone who has done research into an unmentionable STD, Ewww.

Mimi:
Trip to Tassie? Are you Australian, by any chance?

Oh yes, born, bred and raised down under.
Currently living about 10 minutes down the road from the site of the 2000 olymic games in Sydney.

On a semi-Gonter-related note, I happened upon this at the Disney Echo forum. Last time I checked, it was bad form for a moderater to spam his own boards with propaganda. Funny how he doesn't mention the voter fraud allegedly being perpetrated by the GOP in Ohio. (I live in Ohio right now. I am very, very worried about election day.)

Mimi: You are my hero. I've never been able to get up the nerve to actually talk to the Man himself, and here you are, bravely putting yourself on the front line. Bravo, my friend, bravo.

SteveM: Damn, that sucks. Um, wish there was something helpful I could say. Good luck with the fusion thingy, I hope it helps and you can get back to your life.

The term is "Gonterologist." I hold an honorary degree, conferred on "Jen White" by a member of the Poral of Evil.

SteveM:
And here I was, just before your post, whining about how I can still feel the contusion on my back.
I've almost slipped in the tub twice since then, the last time thinking, "I should get a rubber bathmat." And danged if I'm not getting one tomorrow at the Bath & Beyond Outlet up the road. I fall down waaay too much as it is.

M3:
Yeah, I'm cuttin' up my precious vinyl. YEAH, SO doin' that.
I suppose I could buy a laser printer, some cardboard and some glue...But that also assumes that I can do "effort." I can barely update one tiny part if my webpage. I can't get motivated to vacuum the floor.

Edited by author 10-24-2004 11:26 PM
We need a term for mimi here, the Supreme DVK... Anthropologist? A Daveypologist? Anthrodaveypologist?

Thanks for the words on the move... It's just so disappointing that I came SO far and still failed. But if I do it again (I hope to) I will know what to do and how to do it. Plus I still have till November 1 to get a job/get out. If I get a lead, or an interview this week, then I may just ask mom for the November rent and stick it out. What's another $1,000 to pay back? I just feel so bad doing it to her, with the limited income to begin with.

I moved home once already... my first job didn't afford me much money to leave after business school, but when I got the bank job, I moved downtown. When my landlord screwed me up the ass, I fled home on 30 days notice. Grrrr. Out for two/three years, ran back, stayed two years, ran to LA, stayed a year, ran back. Blah.

I have read articles though, that say this is VERY common. Not only are young adults over-spending when they leave the nest, but the jobs aren't paying enough to cover even a cost of living increase in most cases and it's just necessary to move back home. But still. It's disappointing.

ANYWAY. I came by to drop this off, because I for one would LOOOOVE a notebook with the Chicken Lady on the cover:

http://www.cameronmoll.com/archives/000056.html

I would definitely pay for a color copy of that album cover and a notebook, if Bill would be so inclined to go into a little business for himself. Who else has the perfect album covers for this!? You could totally support your cat's nip habits on this type of thing.

Erp, I forgot, damn Steve, that sucks about your back! I have a bad one myself (I laughed out loud AND cringed at Bill's office chair story) and I can't imagine being in that much pain... When you get better and have any pills to spare, give me a ring ;) I'll take them off your hands for cost! *angelic smile*

Steve: Just wanted to mention how that utterly sucks about your back. I've had a lot of leg surgery in my life, so I know how it feels to be grounded and just wanting to get up and have a normal life. Hope the fusion works *thumbs up*
Trip to Tassie? Are you Australian, by any chance?

Edited by author 10-24-2004 10:17 PM
Just dropped some new seeds in the forums. Let's see who pecks....

Bill: I think most of us know where to look. I'd rather not make TOO much reference to the username in case this page is found.
Phrack whores, just go to the Foxfire forum and look for the new face - the only one who's posted anything in the last 72 hours....

Edited by author 10-24-2004 09:47 PM
re. marcie... i've seen photos of her before but oh my god, she IS jean Teasdale! She's REAL!! She's worked in 'retail' for 13 years ie. She works at KMart. The main difference is I doubt she has a hubbie Rick.
But she loves scrapbooking. Nuff said.
Look, I read Harry Potter books and collect the odd Disney pin myself, but JEEZ! She gets her photo taken with VINNY from ATLANTIS?? Proof that Disney-fans (there has to be a term coined to differentiate these blithering 'Pixie-Dust' freaks from the regular animation nuts like myself. Ideas?)will swallow anything that company spews out. Except Eisner, who is EVIL!, of course.

And damn right I have a bookmark folder for Davey stuff. Mine's called 'gonterman vault'.
As to the forum... I'm just posting as if I'm a 16-yr-old deviantart trawler. I shall be asking Perfectly Innocent Questions, not trolling. If anything, it will maybe make him talk a bit more about what's in Davey's head. ;)

"Dont worry Bill, there is a God."

AAUUGGHH!!! A BLIND IDIOT GOD!!!
Is there a picture ANYWHERE of this woman where she's wearing a BRA?
She was born in Connecticut? I might've actually MET her! NOOOO!
*sob*

Bill:
Marcie annoys me.

Dont worry Bill, there is a God.

http://www.passporter.com/lilmarciemouse.htm

Edited by author 10-24-2004 08:00 PM
I have a Gonterman folder too. That's probably not something I should be bragging about.

EDIT: Just checked G-man's forum. Mimi, I love you.

I need the spinal fusion so that I can get out of bed and lead a normal(well to me anyway) life again.
I ruptured my lowest disk late last year, by falling out of the shower -Go Me, and had surgery to fix that. Everything was going well until I went for a business flight to Tasmania. After I got back I could not sit, walk or stand only lay in bed and take pain killers by the handfull which only resulted in me being stoned and nauseous, oh the fun. A trip to hospital followed by a trip to my back specialist and an MRI revealed that the nerve for my left leg is wedged between scar tissue from the previous operation and a small piece of disk that was pushed out during the return flight from Tasmania, ouch ouch ouch. The lowest disk has completely collapsed and the only fix is to fuse the vertebra above and below the disk together or replace the disk itself.
Disk replacement is not really a viable option at the moment so fusion it is, platinum hardware here we come.
I have been stuck in bed for the last 10 weeks and I am getting really sick and tired of it. I want to go back to work, I want to go see a movie, I want to do the things normal (A word with no meaning that makes any sense to me) people do each day.

Anyway, enough of My Broken Back, time for some more painkillers and a bit more surfing.

Edited by author 10-24-2004 11:00 PM
SteveM:
And I thought that I was the only one (besides maybe Mimi and the Duck) to have a Gonterman folder. Mine's labeled "DVK," although "Crap" is, indeed, more apropos.

Spinal fusion? Holy Shotz. Why do you need that? You didn't fall off a rolling office chair like a certain retard I know, did you?

Mimi:
Yeah, the Dueling Egos thing is the best part of the lame adventure. Remember when Tron Guy kept demanding that Davey explain how he got there from Cyberspace? The group'll come to blows some day.

Marcie annoys me. She seems like a real-life version of The Onion's Jean Teasdale. I want to break Marcie's Precious Moments figurines and pee on her Beanie Baby collection!
And don't tell me that she doesn't have a heap o' Precious Moments figurines and a Beanie Baby collection. She just DOES.

Can I (or you) mention where [EDIT: USERNAME DELETED] is? Other Phrack Whores will want to share in the love/hate relationship. "Major Dittos, dude!" The hell?!

I'm having fun watching Drew Rhine(creator of Johnny's Briz's girlfriend) doing his own little 'me! Look at ME!' thing. Apparently HIS character, Dan, can enter computer worlds and beat TRON himself! Will it come down to Davey vs Dan? We shall see....
Whatever happens, I'm sure Marcie will pipe up with a 'Gosh, aren't we all nice?' quip ;p

Regarding the STC echo, WTF is it with the wierd map things that Davey keeps drawing. I have tried to work out what he means and I am stumped. Although I do admit that the map artwork is *Gonterific*. Wow, I may add that to UD, Gonterific - something that is so bad it wraps around the time space continuum and becomes good.

I just checked I am wrong, it was in fact the mists that I checked, the shortcut is in my Gontercrap folder and I only glanced at the title which starts as 'The Disney-Echo....'
I blame the vast quantities of pain killers I am currently on for my error.
Hopefully I will be having a spinal fusion soon and then the pain killers will really make me screw things up!

Holy Phracking Shotz! You guy have been busy in the (CHECKING WATCH SOUND!) rather less than 24 hours since the last time I visited! I wonder how frequently the OED examines online sources like the Urban Dictionary? Perhaps the bandwidth failure is a result of legions of interested people going 'round to check out the source of the UD's new entry.

Marc-- It's not the numbers: it's the cats/sq.ft density. Our previous house, main floor and basement, was about 800 square feet, so with three cats, we had a c/sf of 0.00375, and at this density, the cats were cranky. In the new joint, there's roughly 1800 square feet usable, so with five cats, the c/sf was 0.00278, and peace reigned. Six cats makes the c/sf 0.00333, and I'm not sure how this will affect the contentment index.

Overthinking it? Moi? Couldn't be....

yay, my Gonterman definition email came through. Confirmed. Expect 'David Gonterman' to hit Urban Dictionary some time today.
Uh. I was at the Echo just yesterday and could read the crapfic just fine:
http://new.disneyecho.emuck.com/cgi-bin/ik...T;f=14;t=4843;st=70
That's the last page of it. I think, given the sheer size of Disney Echo, it CAN'T exceed bandwidth.. if one page went down, they'd all go down.
The message you got sounds like a Mindspring error message.
My msts of Gontie fics are on a mindsrping account and are down because I've gone over a gig of traffic.

Perhaps they don't have a great deal of bandwidth available, and it got used up that way. Scary, anyhow.

Ernst, do you find caring for 6 cats difficult? It's an honourable thing to be doing anyway.

Horray for Phrackwhore, it's in!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?...ack+Whore&r=s&pos=5

Edited by author 10-24-2004 02:49 AM
Holy crap!

I went to the Mickey-Kins forum to see how the latest adventures of EgoMan and his loyal troops was going and got this.

--
Sorry...Page Temporarily Unavailable
The Web page or file that you requested is temporarily unavailable. It has been so popular this month that it exceeded its free monthly traffic allotment. Access to this Web site will be restored on the first of next month. Please come back then.

Thank you for your visit!
--

It is almost impossible to believe that many people really visit this thing to blow the monthly bandwidth.

I am now officially awestruck.

I would also be willing to add the odd comment to davies board, I would want to get a feel for the style of the 'Anonymous comments poster' first however.

I have the account ready, but heh... I wrote up a first post to his still-empty Scarlet PI forum in my typical long, wordy ranty way, then got cold feet. It's saved on my HD anyway.
Oh no, it was never my intention to go on there and behave like a Portal of Evil poster and push his buttons.
I totally agree, Bill, the inimitable Daveyness is what we want to keep.
Maybe if we just asked him the Obvious questions, but completely innocuously.... I'll tool around with it for a while...

Ernst:
"as a result of some friends' marital dissolution, we're taking in a sixth cat."

Good thing that they didn't have actual human children. They'd be on eBay, for sale to the highest NAMBLA bidder.
Assholes.

"I can email details to anyone who wants to use it."

I'm up, although I might never use. And won't use it, until I figure out the Rules of the Game. Don't want the mark to know he's being grifted.
I'm willing to bet you get from the Comments...hmm, 3 to 5 more volunteers (ie, Phrack Whores with strange senses of humor).

Although I'm against any real abuse to our fave shotzhead. Davey's utter incompetence makes my life BETTER, not worse! I want his work to get DAVEYER, not disappear.

I think it takes the usual 24 hours for the definition to show up. I still haven't got the activation email. I hope I didn't accidentally delete it when I cleared the spam out of there...

If it's been lost, I can easily remember it and type it up again. Right now, I am creating a sockpuppet account to post on Davey's forum. Who wants to share? >:)
I can email details to anyone who wants to use it.

I got my email confirm instaneously. But "phrack whore" isn't up yet. Must take awhile.
Mine was short, as PW's basically a more obsessive version of "gontermaniac."
DYIN' to read your bio!!!

No, apparently I have to get a prompt via email to activate the post I wrote, but nothing yet. No, none of those are mine. I would never keep it that brief ;)

I found this
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gonterman&r=f
but not your entry. I assume it takes a bit to show up?

I'll do "Phrack Whore," as I invented that term. I nominate M3 (when she has the time, at this frantic moment of her life) to define that greatest and most descriptive of Gonterwords, "Gontorrhea."

Hey, guys! Davey's actually in Urban Dictionary
Sweet! We must fill in the gaps! I just sent them a definition of the Man himself. Who wants to do 'Phrack Whore'?

Okay, now this made me laugh.... his 'prints', of which there is one. The same wallpaper of Jamie and Jasmine.
He says there would be an UNLIMITED pre-print run, followed by a limited run of 25. How does he know when it stops being unlimited and goes limited? And at 20 bucks a print for 8.5x11... that's just insulting to those of us who sell these things for a living. At my last con, my publishers had made up a bunch of 11x17" colour prints of my work. On nice paper and all. We charged 5 bucks each. Each print cost about 75 cents to make. I've seen top comic illustrators charge 15 bucks TOPS for prints of similar size, but those guys are GOOD and people are willing to pay for them.

20 bucks for a Gontie print done on Paint Shop Pro of which he has only a 2% grasp of the program's capabilities?
Forgive me while I bitch-slap the air where I imagine his grossly-inflated head would be were he standing in front of me.

If I was going to make a deviantart sockpuppet, it'd be to unleash vicious constructive criticism >;)
I think Daybreak is not seriously helping him, either. I'm still not sure if he's being perfectly serious in his light encouragement or it's all a huge ruse and Daybreakcat is really 'one of us'.
I know, the cluelessness is breathtaking. He honestly thinks anyone is even remotely interested in owning... much less BUYING, a tshirt, wallpaper or print that he did? I love how on his profile, he doesn't HAVE any favourite cartoon characters other than his own. 'Create your own', David? Every character he's ever created is ripped off from an anime, cartoon or game.

He has wallpapers on his site.. that he'll very magnanimously give you if you make a donation. The devianart account has medium-sized thumbnails of them. I can enlarge it to 800 or 1024 wide, slap a Sharpen filter on it and it looks fine.. as fine as a David Gonterman wallpaper can get, anyway.

"ARGH... urge to create fake deviantart account to comment..rising...."

To take him down, or encourage his ineptitude?
I really think the latter is what Daybreakcat is doing. Check his new comments. "You also seem to have drawn his head a little small in the second panel." Yes, and also with no CHIN or MOUTH. I guess that'd make it smaller! And yet, not a mention of panel one's--well, it's on his head, so I guess it's his face.

Davey recently seemed surprised that no one on Deviant had listed any of his pictures as their favorite. Do tell! How clueless is this guy? He never links to anybody who draws as shittily as he does. Is he that blind to his own imperfections as an artist?
Can you imagine what the egomaniac must be like in real life? No wonder McD's cut his hours. Maybe he makes Big Macs like he draws and scripts, and then demands that his coworkers praise his sesame seed buns. (Unless they've increased his hours--with his fractured prose, it can be difficult to tell what he's saying)

Edited by author 10-23-2004 05:59 PM
dammit, Bill! I swear, I check Davey's account the minute BEFORE he updates and you check it the minute AFTER ;)
Good god... 3 pages in and he's already forgotten who his character is and just slips back to Gonterman's Soapbox. All that's missing is 'Disney lawyers'. The PETA crowd?? Um.. unless you've been skinning puppies and wearing the untreated stinky hides as a perverted leather jacket, Davey, PETA will generally not bother the average member of the public.
My only guess is that this BARGAIN establishment Jim lives in is so infested with vermin that even PETA are declaring the place unfit for even roaches to live.
For 25 bucks a week, there shouldn't even be a light switch. Besides, Jim, there's a little thing called UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS. Look into it.

And, as stated in commentary past, as a Fab Five Fag Hag, I have NEVER heard Thom's pronunication of 'horrible' to be any more distorted than anyone else's. "HAH-rible" is maybe the closest I could come up with, but that's hardly Thom's exclusive stock-in-trade.
And I don't know where you think the Fab Five came from, Gont, but I think it's fair to say that none of them EVER lived in a hovel like Jim's. Maybe that's where he once thought all gays *should* live?
Oh, but not now. Enlightened-but-still-Clueless Davey thinks that's just harrible.

And yes, that first frame is the face of a serial killer ;)

ARGH... urge to create fake deviantart account to comment..rising....

Gods above and below, have mercy-- as a result of some friends' marital dissolution, we're taking in a sixth cat. Should be a warm winter, at least.

I left my home right after college. Not that I wanted to; the woman my father was living with wanted me out, so out I went, into a cheap apartment in a lousy neighborhood. No job. I barely kept alive on my meager savings and whatever temp jobs I could get before getting a real job. It didn't pay well, and it still doesn't, but I now own a condo in a decent neighborhood.

However, no car. Why? One, the things cost, and two, I don't have a license. Why? I never got a license. I got a learner's permit once upon a time, and even driving lessons, but got shoved out before I got a license, or even jack shit worth of driving experience. It was about a decade before I could even think about affording a car, and what was I supposed to do then? Buy one without a license and then practice in it? Riiiight.

Edited by author 10-23-2004 10:05 AM
Writing from beyond the grave, BOO!, thanks to the face in panel 1. I live [edit: lived, sorry, force of habit] in a city where it's possible to rent a small house in a good part of town for $600 a month, and I can't picture the kind of hovel $100 rent would produce. Seriously, hole with a tarp over it goes for more than that.

Bill: Cat grass [giggle]... dude, you know. It's GRASS [titter] for CATS, man. But honestly, the kids would love some. Here's a link to some. For fun's sake, it's Cosmic Kitty brand, but Hagen and some others also make it, and it should be in the local shops unless there's some irrational local laws against cat grass [smirk].
[Other edit:A more serious explanation of cat grass, that isn't selling it]

M3- I'm also a late nest leaver, or frequent nest returner (1986-1988, 1995-1996, and apparently for good in 1997). I've seen others who could not get out fast enough and wouldn't return except in an urn, so I understand (in an academic sense) why one might not want to return. Surely, though, there's some middle ground between LA and Pittsburgh-- avoiding whatever it is in PA that causes grief without the insane cost of living that LA must engender (see note on rent above-- I think EVERYWHERE has a high cost of living). Bill has a good point on home bases, tho'-- even if networking proves useless, at least familiar faces can bring some comfort.

Edited by author 10-23-2004 12:57 AM
M3:
I'm not sure what "Pittsburgh and Prozac" means, despite reading your LJ. But I'll take this moment to admit my most embarassing secret:
Despite 3 attempts, I didn't move out of my parents' house until I was 27.
Yep. 27.
I kept moving out, but I always ended up in crappy jobs that couldn't sustain me. When I finally got a job that paid well enough, after a few years I cracked down and saved enough to not only move out, but simultaneously buy a car AND a condo. A Mercury Tracer and a really small crappy condo where most of the plumbing has currently died and gone to Heaven, but still.
The job was Kay Bee Toys, and it was the not only my worst job ever, it was the worst job IMAGINABLE. Hey, 80 hour weeks!! But I survived.
Sometimes you have to take the bullet in order to survive it.

I can understand why you don't want to go back to the Pitt. But--if there's a network of friends and free/cheap lodging...That's a base that you can build on. It's better than being homeless. ANYthing's better than that.

I may not be one to talk--I'm literally 3 miles from both of my childhood homes, so I always had that base--but I think it's better to build your base than it is to abandon it. As it's a brutal job market in the Second Bush Recession, and it ain't like W's Government's holding out any safety nets that aren't made of spiderwebs.

Good luck, dearest M3. You have my best wishes.

http://www.deviantart.com/view/11630487/

Most of you will simply fall over dead when you see the FACE in panel one...but if you live past even the hair, ask yourself: WDDH?
Who Does Davey Hate?

"The PETA Crowd," says the guy who drags an unopened, unventilated box with something alive in it all around town.
"The COPS," says--a guy who WANTS TO BE COP!
"Scientists." WTF?!?! Davey's prly the only person in America GLAD that there's no flu vaccine left! Maybe when you get a terrible disease like cancer you can skip the devil worship that is "Science," and let a Creationist cure you with prayer and snake-handling you MULLETTED IDIOT REDNECK FUCKTARD.
Oh, and "the mailman." What is THAT dialogue about?!

He says "harrible" because that's how a Queer Eye Guy pronounces it. ERGO, as they're the ONLY 4 GAY MEN ON PLANET EARTH, that means that ALL gay men say it! Hey, Davey! There's this concept called REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE! Maybe you should try it some time! Inbetween the times you're working for Mom or McDonalds!

BUT NOT TODAY! Yes, he lives in an apartment that costs--
$25 A FUCKING WEEEEEEK!!!!!!!!!
IS HE LIVING IN A NEW DELHI SHANTYTOWN?!?!?!

I've said this about Davey before, and I'm sure to say it again, but--
AAAARRRRGGGHHH!

"They also get a dish of cat-grass at irregular intervals."

(insert Canadian medical marijuana joke here)

"Cat grass"? What is that? Nip? Or some supplement that they actually need? (I assume the first, but I'm a paranoid mommy)

I'm on a multi vitamin thingie now because I'm so bitchbroke I've been eating ritz and ramen soup and soda and water for weeks now. I was so achingly tired all the time, and getting chills and just being... confused, which I don't think people understand the term in a medical sense until it happens and you really start to worry if you're insane. So anyway, I tried like hell to get into the free clinic but I couldn't get an appointment. Signs pointed to anemia, it made sense considering I hadn't had meat or vegetables in a long long long time, so I paid $14 for a bottle of health in pill form.

Also, I wouldn't let my cat outdoors either. Here in LA they say you shouldn't leave your DOGS out without being watched, especially at night, because of the coyotes. And snakes. But I'd be too worried about kids, who are cruel, and cars, who are too big to care, and dogs and other cats and other weird things. Better to be inside and safe and last a long time than outside and be missing half an ear, an eye and a left foot and live only a few years.

I'm tired. Going back to lay down. Hey I don't suppose any of the posters here are in Los Angeles? I need a secretarial job. I've got about a week before I have to move home to Pittsburgh and get addicted to Prozac. Figure it's worth a shot to try networking in weird places.

Bill: re Jessica's husband. I think the best person to yay or nay that is Jessica herself. I don't see the harm, myself, but then, we all have different degrees of privacy that we like in our lives.

I was a big stupid carnivore until about 2 years ago; even with the best will in the world, every attempt at eating greens ended with violent gagging. Something shifted with the 35th birthday, it seems, and now I seek out salad.

The cats get proper cat food, which I trust the Men of Science at Hill's to have properly set up with the proper protein/carb/fibre blend. They also get a dish of cat-grass at irregular intervals.

You know who gets REALLY screwed on vitamin D? African-descended people living in northern climates like Canada or the top third of the US. Generations of adaptation to searing African sunlight makes for trouble during stupid long winters.

Biblical law states you must keep your food animals in humane conditions, and then kill them painlessly.
That's a lot better deal than most people get in the bible. Especially those dumb Amalekites. They get smote good. [slack jawed laughter, some dribbling on bib-overalls]

Edited by author 10-22-2004 04:46 AM
I actually eat meat, but only Kosher meat. Biblical law states you must keep your food animals in humane conditions, and then kill them painlessly. Whip THAT one out next time some God-hates-fags loser gets started.

Edit: I don't stick to Kosher anywhere else, though. Pretty much all the rest of it, like most things in the Bible, are unbelievably goofy.

Edited by author 10-22-2004 01:47 AM
Umm...Did I do the right (by Google) thing with that post about Jessie's husband? Please let me know if I made it worse. And quickly.

(I'm thinking along the lines of abbreviated search results that have his name followed by "accused PERV" and such in them, which is exactly what I was trying to avoid)

Edited by author 10-22-2004 12:04 AM
"I still think it's cruel when hard-core veggies force their carniverous pets to follow suit."

The kids' favorite Iams flavor is Lamb & Rice.

My great vegetarian friend Kevin got a puppy, and insisted that Huckleberry could live on a vegetarian diet. I said he couldn't, and used Kev's own example on why people aren't designed to eat meat, as carnivores have a different digestive tract. I pointed out that, unlike cows, puppies don't have 4 stomachs and swallow gastroliths.

But he fed Huck veggie dog food. Huck got less and less playful, and his poop turned mushy and grey. Alarmed, he went to the natural food store to ask about this. "Oh, he just needs to get used to it!" they said. After another week, poor Huck could barely move from weakness. And the store told him the same lie again.

He got pissed, told them "You don't care if my dog dies, so long as I buy your food! FUCK YOU!" and bought some Science Diet. Huck's, hmm, like 10 years old now, and still has the playfulness of a pup.

Of course, humans have a digestive system inbetween cows and carnivores--we're omnivores. Eating nothing but meat (especially beef) means heart disease and colon cancer. Have some fruit, a salad, yogurt, and take vitamin D and folic acid as supplements.

Edit:
Bah! There's a 2-part article on the overall and wide-ranging health benefits of vitamin D in the print version of Science News these last 2 weeks, but it's not online. Short version: Get about 800-1000 IUs a day. Most North Americans (sorry, further edit:) who are above the Mason-Dixon line barely get 100 IUs.

Oh, and I don't really consider "tin of meat" to mean "can of SPAM." As I have memorized large chunks of Python's "Hell's Grannies" sketch from an early age.

Same here. I'd fight for my life against a cow any day. of course, chances are the cow would win and eat me.

Nevertheless, I still think it's cruel when hard-core veggies force their carniverous pets to follow suit. I don't care how much they trumpet that their pets are perfectly healthy eating soy substitutes and iron supplements. If those pets got into the wild, they wouldn't go eating berries, they'd look for a rabbit!

I like meat. ;p

It's a common misconception that cats and dogs eat only meat. Even carnivores in the wild feed copiously on grasses and other carb-foods. It's nearly impossible for any living creature to survive solely on meat.

I thought up several jokes about people who value thinness and national chauvanism more than life itself, but none of them were funny. So I'll finish this post.

Edited by author 10-21-2004 10:32 AM
(Steadfastly not looking at the horror-- I dun redd Lovecraft and knows better!) I thought cats, as obligatory carnivores, were pretty much on an high-protein, low-carb diet ALL THE TIME. Apart from some taste investigation of human snax, and some delicious gut-scrubbing, puke-propelling grass, of course.

I'd still get an 18-year old cat around to the vet if he's lost that much weight-- at that age, they should be cutting back a little on the protein for their kidneys' sake.

[Edit-- thinks: Is "tin of meat" not an English expression for can of foul-smelling pet food? And not necessarily Spam spam spam spamity spam?]

Oh good, I didn't imagine that.
The cat doing the... thing.

*picks up bottle of bleach and potscrubber*
I wonder if this'll fit in my ear? Brain needs cleaning....

I believe that it's Bill O'Reilly's cat, Falafel.

I just saw a white cat fondle and lick himself on full color video.

My life might be complete now. or my brain got seared. it's hard to tell.

One horny white boy-cat:
http://www.manaszk.it.pl/zarty/2911.mpg

One sorry black fly:
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/nyc/45379395.html

Don't ever stop.

My pate is slightly fuzzy.... I dunno, I think Byron's taken over pretty nicely. If Bill's looking for a rest, I'm willing to let the Power of Polydactyl persuade me.

I'm not addle-pated! My pate is perfectly straightforward!

Bill:
These softies are all a bunch of addle-pated twits. Now dance, puppet, dance!

I've said it before, Thoughtty - you don't have to "put out" for us. If you don't feel like updating, take a break, and come back to it when and if you want to. We'll still love ya.

I third that sentiment. Bill, you've done more than your share of entertaining. I love when you write and post pics of the kitties, but if you're tired of it then don't do it. We love ya here and we'll understand.

I roundly second that, Kiru. I consider you a pal, Bill. Don't worry about entertaining us (although every time a new Kit story or pictures comes up, I always drag Mr Mimi over to look, too ;)). Do what you enjoy.

umm...this is kind of sappy, but...

If the News is a chore, stop doing it.

I consider myself a longtime reader (of this drivel), and it's really meant a lot to me. My first girlfriend and I used to quote long passages of the News and InExObs at each other, and it's really informed the way I think about the web as a whole, and how I behave as an internaut.

But your hobby shouldn't be about pleasing us fans, it should be something you do that you enjoy. If it's tiresome to you, stop. And if and when you find something you do enjoy, please share it with us again.

Yesterday was Dawn Wells' birthday, and mine. Thank you, Bill, for being online. It's been a wonderful gift.

I think the reason Aussie cats can roam without their owners stressing is because when a cat is outside, it can mark its territory. With lots of suburban cats doing this, a cat is less inclined to roam too far because it runs into another cat's territory before too long and is more inclined to stay close to home and watch its own turf.
But American cat owners are much more protective, so there are very few cats outside encountering each other. I've certainly never seen any while out walking.

The only possible use I could see for pet strollers would be for show pets who can't get dirty or for invalid animals. Our last dog had crippling respiratory problems and couldn't go for walks in the end, so mum made up a little cart for her to lie in so she could at least see and smell things.

I have never understood this... hm... almost *phobia* at letting a housecat go outside. I never came across it in Australia

Of course, that's because house cats in Australia are incredibly venomous, like every other bit of flora or fauna there. Nothing would dare trouble them. Until recently, I've been in the "let 'em roam" camp, but like Bill I'm striken with Fretful Mother Syndrome, and get antsy if one of them stays in another room too long. Outside? EEP! On the other hand, the strollers seem an insult which oceans of blood couldn't erase.

Re those pet strollers - it makes perfect sense to me. What animal wouldn't rather stand around in a little cage than roam around on a leash? Humans want to turn their animals into couch potatoes, I guess.

"I have never understood this... hm... almost *phobia* at letting a housecat go outside."

Cars, dogs, coyotes. And, deadliest of all, feline leukemia.

Life span of an American outdoor cat: 5-10 years max.
Indoor: 15-20 years.
I can do that math.

YES, it's only Connecticut, and yet we have coyotes!
Is it worse to keep the kits inside than it is to worry about what might eat/run them over/infect them?
I guess that's your decision, but I lean on the side of caution.

Edited by author 10-19-2004 10:34 AM
Ha! Davey's dayjob - BUSTED!
From the Echo:
...I've just found out that money's going to be tight for me in recent weeks and work over at the Mickey Dee's kicking back up again. I'm not one who likes to beg for my lunch and bus money (as well as ink cartliges for my computer, ink and paper for my strips and all that) which is why I have offers from my site for Wallpapers, art commissions, Desktop or Web Publishing and projects, and the like.


Putting aside the fact that he uses the future tense in a past-time context in the first sentence 9_9.... where I come from, it's called Maccas, but even I know what Mickey D's is...

Edit: I just spotted another great DVK typing howler: "ink cartliges". Y'know... it almost sounds as if Davey lives on a wire, like Dubya!

Dogs have to take heartworm medication constantly to keep the little buggers at bay... I didn't know cats were susceptible to it, too.

At the risk of offending the american cat-lovers here, I have never understood this... hm... almost *phobia* at letting a housecat go outside. I never came across it in Australia, only since I got here. Every cat my family ever owned has come and gone outside as it pleased and all lived long and healthy lives. We never even needed to use litterboxes. I just don't see the harm in letting cats roam outside. Maybe it's me - I find the thought of cooping an animal inside its whole life rather cruel.

I'll be over here with Zef...

holy shit. i could've drewn this

http://snowflakestudios.keenspace.com/d/20041017.html

now i'm all scared.

Sorry for the kitty, Lav. i think she deserves to still go out. now everyone can flame me!

Edited by author 10-18-2004 08:04 PM
I could see using the pet stroller craziness for a kitten for a few months before she learned how to go out and come in by herself. I used a catleash on Reese when I was first letting her out.

Perhaps it was a mistake. A week ago while I was at school, she suddenly began sitting around moping all day, refusing to eat, and hissing every time my Mom tried to pick her up. I examined her on the weekend and found bloody gashes under her fur. Upon taking her to the vet, we found out she had a fever and her liver and kidneys were sore to the touch (she hissed at the doctor when he felt them.) They took a blood test and found out her liver and kidneys were fine (they were probably bruised in the fight) but that she has heartworms. So now she needs heartworm prevention medicine pretty much every month for the rest of her life.
Now that her fever's gone, she still insists on going out everyday. I don't have the heart to say no.

I'm still figuring out this scanner thing. I think I will have to get help. Yesterday the aforementioned theoretical piece of goofy fanart became no longer theoretical. It's a dorky 2-panel Invader Zim fancomic. In the first panel, Dib and Zim are poised to beat the snot out of eat other. In the second, they're lying on their backs, covered in gashes and bruises, and smoking ciggarettes. Dib says, "Wow, Zim! That was incredible!" Zim responds, "Ready for round two?" I plan to post it somewhere or e-mail it as a present to a certain other wierdo who enjoys such things as much as I do.

From the Google ads: Umm...

http://snowflakestudios.keenspace.com/d/20041018.html

Whoa...that's not at all very good now is it! And Richie Datsun is trying to take Davey's "lame sound effects" greatness away from him! "Grab-ness"??

I got scared by "rustle," cause it really looked like he was going to whip something other than a framed picture out of his pants.

I Googled and found an earlier strip he did, and he's actually gone down in quality since then. If that's possible.

I don't think Davey EVER has been convinced by anyone to pursue something. He can do that all by himself.
I so do not know what to make of Daybreakcat. He gives intelligent comments, but how can he NOt be aware of Davey's rep?? And that ANY positive (and VERY undeserved)comments only inflate his head even more??
No, David, your art is not awesome, it is not compelling and third-graders could write better characters and dialogue than you.
*sigh* Ah well...

Hey, look! Jim has no @$$!!! But we get to see MORE of it in future installments HAHAHAHAhAhaa!!*dies*

A sequel to NITRO? Oh, you have just put my fondest wishes into words!

...

Well, the fondest of those wishes that involve Davey-Kins in any capacity. And that's a pretty darn small subset.

A friend of mine told me to do this, she doesn't know of SOdomy the Gnome, but the concept isn't far off.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Zef...shops/gnomebush.jpg

Edited by author 10-17-2004 04:25 PM
Trash--Do Not Open

"There's something alive in here that someone left to die! Well, I won't open it, I'll drag it bumping along the road across town for 10 miles first." Riiight.
(Ever notice how none of Davey's avatars drive cars?)

Davey grows as an artist: He says "jerk off," and not "Pee Wee Job" or "O'Reilly Falafel" or such.
Davey fails to grow as an artist: The gay guy has a mullet. The Japanese girl has a mullet. The Mickey rip-off has a mullet, and Fakerbell has an uber-mullet. DRAW A SECOND HAIRSTLYE ALREADY!!

Hmm, I just noticed the Devious Comments. Davey's mentor Daybreakcat says "YES, some of us CAN guess who/whats in that box. Ah, good times are here again!"
He's familiar with that bad acid trip that was Scarlett 1.0? And he still thinks the guy has talent to be nurtured? Does he follow Davey for the same reason we do? Maybe he'll convince DVK to do a sequel to "NiTRO."

Lav - You can also use TinyPic.com... you can upload right from your hard drive and 10,000 impressions. That lasts a long long time and no need to create an account.

Davey's whole story there on why he likes Echo is just... *tear* The thing about Disney characters is they tend to look somewhat different from each other, the ladies have dainty feet and hands, and they don't scowl and sneer ALL. THE. TIME. Seriously, it's become the most creepy thing about his work to me. I know he's all angsty inside and it's probably just a manifestation of that, but give your characters eyebrows that dont' always point down dude. Sheesh.

Off to read FBOFW. I haven't seen a newspaper in ages, I'm behind on everything!

Edited by author 10-17-2004 04:13 AM
Ah, I stand corrected. Sometimes I don't mind being wrong. :)

Edited by author 10-16-2004 10:27 PM
I'm guessing the Tinkerbell remark is in reference to this crime against nature.

Imagine entering Daveyland - kids could walk away with mullet wigs and a sad, empty feeling inside.

And that is going in my quote file.

LavenderGray: You can get a free account at Photobucket if you want to put pics in your Livejournal.

I think that the Tinkerbell remark was a crack about one of his characters being "one of those people. Yeah, gay guys love to be referred to that way by straights.

Edited by author 10-16-2004 01:20 PM
Wow...That pretty much sums up Davey's whole existence, doesn't it?
The massive ego: "I have enough dreams and ideas to be a modern day equivilant of Uncle Walt." All Disney did was steal other's creations and make minor cosmetic changes to them? Isn't that "Disney execs having me for their power lunch" basically an admission that he knows his "ideas" are all just copyright infringement?
And that's immediately followed by the "Pity Poor Davey" routine. Add the interesting speling and grammars and a bad picture, and the DVK experience is all there.
I think he's accepted at DisneyEcho because it's so big he can't stink it up enough on his own. Plus he's only been there for 10 months.

Note to Mr Gonterman - the Theme Parks are desperately trying to LURE new guests, not scare them off!
Imagine entering Daveyland - kids could walk away with mullet wigs and a sad, empty feeling inside.

Has he even read the book 'Imagineering'? Disney (in the old days, anyway), hired the best, most creative engineers around to literally create magic for those parks. 'Imagineer' does not mean 'net hack who rips everything off'.
I SO cannot wait to see Davey's reaction when the Tinkerbell movie comes out. What if there's a little red-headed tomboy fairy in it? Mwah-ha-ha....>:)

...did he say he was Tinkerbell? Maybe this new gay phase in Scarlet PU is as autobiographical as anything else he's done.

Arrrrrrrgh...proof that the GonterEgo is alive and well, despite the med changes. What's he saying here? "I like this place because nobody points out my narcissism?"

Edited by author 10-15-2004 10:20 PM
From the ads:
"Discount Kittens Cat
New & used selection. aff Kittens Cat for sale.
www.ebay.com"
"New & used"??

Anybody else (besides Mimi, of course) following For Better or Worse's new storyline? It involves a very Killsy looking cat (at least until we see a Sunday strip, and see how she's colored). Starts here.

Edited by author 10-15-2004 06:45 PM
we're really not all like that
It's too bad the ones who are like that are clogging up your corps diplomatique. Seriously, during a meeting of local consular luminaries, there was a large contingent of Europe's representatives pondering how to convince him to join in an impromptu enactment of "Julius Caesar" Act 3 Scene 1. Apparently 'international incident=bad' won out over 'this guy not talking any more=good'. Kerry, gods and Diebold Voting Systems willing, has a LOT of crap he's got to fix.

[edit- the preceding was based on eyewitness testimony, and I refuse to name the nation represented by the witness]

Billy, hon, I don't think you truly qualify as asexual, at least if the terms in that article are any gauge; that whole, "I've never been sexually attracted to ANYONE" statement wouldn't apply, now would it? (Two words: Dawn Wells. One more: bikini. Not feelin' quite so asexual now, are ya, buddy?)

Of course, one could simply be considered asexual if it's a simple lack of having no sex life, but that kinda reminds me of that old line about how an avowal of celibacy only holds up if it's being actively challenged, ya know? Of course, that gets us into the whole discussion of what constitutes a challenge, and what doesn't...sorry, back to the Gontyhate and O'Reilly discussion. (Oh, and because of the latter I must once more apologize to all non-Yanks who read this--we're really not all like that, k?)

Bill - 2 of us and 98 of them. What's weird is that I'm both asexual and bisexual. I guess it's the difference between theory and practice.

LavenderGray - you can't upload pictures to your LJ, except for those little user pictures. To have it appear on your LJ you'd have to uploade the pic into some user space that allows remote loading (and nearly all freebie webspace providers forbid this) and then put HTML code in your entry. For example: <.img src="http://www.mydomain.com/images/image.jpg" alt="but without the period behind the first '<'.">

Sleepy and confused-- O'Rielly not killed by giant meteor, but by lawsuit brought by 99% percent of the population? I'm pretty sure he was killed by a giant meteor.

It's amazing how O'Reilly never gave his famous advice to himself:
"SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UUUP!!" (cuts off mic)

Re: Kittyblogging: Awesome! Love it. My roommate and I regularly narrate her cats thoughts. "Am I the cutest cat in the world, or the smartest? Aw hell, I'm both."

I'm sure you've all heard about O'Reilly, but if you haven't, there's the link. Be warned: could cause nausea, vomiting, and eye-gouging. Plus you will never be able to say "falafel" without laughing.

Yay! The dorm comp lab has a scanner! Hey, if I wanted to theoretically, say, upload a goofy piece of fanart into my livejournal, how would I do that?

The sun is setting here now, in clouds of radiant orange fleece against a lavender sky. It is a thing of such vast and exquisite beauty that it shakes this fragile mortal shell right down to the core.

Edited by author 10-14-2004 06:51 PM
Kitty Pic Caption;

Sam :- Cat on the left.
Max :- Cat on the right.

Max : But I swear there was a red dot on the end of your tail!
Sam : Touch me again and you will feel the full wrath of my super kitty ninja skillz !!1!!1!

Edited by author 10-14-2004 05:00 PM
Hey, what's up with the links? I don't have time to sort through that giant pile o' kitten pix, alas...

Damn those sytes.org fascists!

PS: Ma belle Sophie absolutely adores her new flea comb--I've just been happy to discover zero fleas on her, as well as yet another way to get her lil' rumbly motor running big-time.

Edited by author 10-14-2004 10:45 AM
Hm. I use Firefox (The Browser on Mimi's Computer Formerly Known As Mozilla) and Scarlett looks fine to me.

And those fur-boobs STILL look freaking odd.....O_o

And I fully endorse the copious healing power of Kittenage. *^_^* kittyyyy...

Edited by author 10-14-2004 01:37 AM
I don't know how this:
http://foxfirestudios.us/main.shtml
looks in MSIE, but in Netscape Scarlett's head is cut off by the Updates.

Umm...if that "cuddling-the-crotch tail through the bucking-at-random angles, possibly-broken legs" is supposed to be something other than sickingly freakish...Nice try, Davey!

MERLIN? That's MERLIN?

And he's doing what there? Talking on his cell phone?

Yeah sure whatever. Does every Davey character have that same waist? And jeans? Wanna bet that under all that hair, Merlin also has a Wal-Mart style vest and a semi-knotted tie, like almost every other one of his recent male characters?
He just looks like Davey with a prop beard and Groucho glasses.

Bill's got the cure for gonteriasis-- delightful, lively kittens! Yay! It's even better if you don't say, "delightful, lively kittens" like Dwight Frye ;-)

And now, your Daily Gonter-pill. Wizard Camel Toe Warning!

Oh gah. My eyes need bleaching now....
What's also amusing is in the forum. In his RP section, Davey expresses *surprise* that absolutely noone is role-playing. Can he not hear the crickets?

Edited by author 10-13-2004 10:41 PM
Lilly:
I didn't know what Byron had in his mouth until I pulled it out. I thought it might be string or something he could choke on.
Damn, that spider was big.

Oh, and I wasn't implying that Byron was dumb. Just very very eager and excited. That's m'boy!

This morning I took wee Augusta to the vet to have stitches removed (the final step of the process which makes the pronoun 'she' less appropriate). After huge complaining on the trip there and back, she expressed her displeasure by perching almost weightlessly on my chest and purring pointedly for about ten minutes. I can't begin to imagine the interior dialogue attached to that manner of forgiveness.

Bill, that totally ROCKED. I'd try to write my own kidlings' blog, but it would only suffer in comparison. (This is one time that the sincerest form of flattery isn't imitation as much as just ceasing and desisting.)

Still, it's amazing how much Kills' and Senor B's interior voices sound like Beez and la Sovyette, though I'd like to think my young 'un has a slightly greater command of language (plus I let her eat bugs--I figure that all extra protein is good, and this means I don't have to bother with depositing the creepy-crawlies outside). In any case, good on ya!

See, I knew I shouldn't even try. Bill just killed me ;)

Byron's Blog:
TODAY I HAD GOOD DAY I DID NOT POOP OF FLOOR WHERE NOT SUPPOSED!
EEEEE-YEEEOWWW! I JUST FELT LIKE BLOODCURDLING SKREAM!
DID NOT SLEEP WITH MOMMY LAS NIGHT, SLEPT ON MOMMY CHAIR! SMELLED LIKE MOMMY BUTT! THAT SO GOOD!
THERE WAS FOOD! TUUUNA!!! IT SMELLED AWFUL SO WAS GOOD! LIKE MOMMY BUTT!
GOT ACUSED OF TURNING OVER FOOTSTOOL WITH STROAGE COMPRATMENT! LID WAS OFF, STUFF KEPTED ALL NICE UNDER STOOL! DO NOT UNDRESTAND THE FUSSES
EEEEYEOW! sORRY, BLOODCURLING SCRAM TIME! THIS TIME INTO AIR! DON'T KNOW WHY! JUST DOOOOOO!
I SAW BIRDS!
I ATE FOOD, CHAES BIG CAT SOME MORE! SHE KICK MY ASS!
SLEEP!
SLEEEP!
SLEEEEEEEEP!!
MOMMY HOME AHVE MORE STINKY FOOD!
CHASE LASER DOT grrr, LASER DOT! i WILL GETS YOU SOME DAYS!!!!!!
CHICKEN! CHICKEN SKINS!!! OH BOY SO MUCH BETTER THAN CAT TREETS I DON'T LIEK THEM, THEY MAKE YOUR POO LESS STINKY AND WHO WANTS THAT?!?!
CHAAASE! CHASE WEIRD THING! CHEW WEIRD THING! MOMMY GETS UPSET, PULLS DELICIUOS FOOD FROM MY MOUTH1 IT JUST A GIANT BLACK SPIDER, WHY NOT LET ME EATS??
SLEEEP!

Kill Kill's Journal:
I engaged in personal combat with the small grey one today. I defeated him with my mighty powers of Sumo. To demoralize him, I managed to knock over the footstool, turning it 180 degrees while leaving its contents intact, yet sending its lid a foot away! Sometimes, one amazes even one's own self.
This, of course, not being one of those times, as I amaze myself with great regularity.
The loud boy slobbered his morning Friskies Tuna & Yegg in the kitchen. I, of course, retired to the breakfast nook, between the Lay-Z-Boy, the coffee table and the glowing box with the pictures and noises and Eberts. Mater delivered my morning substenance to me there. It's just not done to take brekkies anywhere else, don't you know?
I observed the local flying wildlife. I assume that many are edible, yet they never fly close enough for me to test my theory.
Then the small one attacked. He was dealt with, posthaste. He has a butt, and ergo, it was kicked.
Mater returned, and discovered the footstool. He didn't seem to care who did it, but I fled the scene into the living room. Then I went, as they say, "all crazy bonkers nuts," racing around the household and climbing the kitty condo and attacking the grey bigfooted one. Alas, my ruse was seen for the diversion that it was. But mater complimented me on my footstool-overturning abilities, and gave me treats. The boy refused his, mayhap because they cause his crap to stink less. Apparently, that's a point of pride with him.
He et a spider. Disgusting.
Well, time to clean one's nether regions, then curl up in a nice box and snooze. Toodles, all!

Teach the kits to update...;)

Byron: Today Mommy was doing that 'sniffle-wince' thing and wouldn't play laser pointer again....
Killsy: Wish Mom would hurry up and move again, the grey hyper bastard is driving me insane....'

BILL! GET WELL SOON ALREADY, DAMNIT!

Edited by author 10-12-2004 02:44 PM
Oh yeah, I know it has been used in certain cartoon situations. But no, to answer Bill's question, 'meh' is not some quirky gay thing ;)

I got a message today from TMJake, one of Gontie's little friends. He pretty much frostily requested that perhaps I, as a fellow comic artist, might have a CIVIL conversation with Davey and try helping him instead of mocking him. I gave him an essay back explaining that people will not improve if they don't want to. And all signs say that Gontie feels he's fine where he is. Can't help someone who thinks they don't need help. *shrug*.

That shut him up into a meek little 'oh. Okay, I see your point. I'm still gonna try and help him anyway.'

I've heard "meh" before. In fact, one of my friends uses it. It's sort of an anime-ish vocal shrug.

I've heard, and used, 'meh' plenty of times. I think I got it from the Simpsons, the episode where they went to Blockoland, but I know I must have heard it in other places. Maybe it's a Midwest thing?

As a Fab Five Hag, I have never heard the word 'meh' uttered on Queer Eye. That's a pure Daveyism. It appears to mean nothing. Jim scratching himself would insinuate more than 'meh'.

Edited by author 10-11-2004 09:59 PM
On Scarlett PU:
Can anyone enlighten me on why in the last 2 strips, Goodlow has said "Meh"? Is it some nonword someone on Straight Eye uses, so Davey has decided that it's a word every gay uses every other sentence?
Because it's FAB-U-LOUUUS!

"Clang clang clang!"
"Where's the trolley?"

Is there some kind of site for out-of context headlines? Here's a doozy:
"Bush's bulge stirs media rumours"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3730364.stm
Good old Auntie Beeb-- even they're getting into the story of Young George and his mentor Hercule Sauvigny de Cyrano de Cheney.
See, Ernst, I threw in that 'huzzah' thing entirely for your benefit, you wacky SCA geek, you...
And here I thought it was an MST3K reference. Huzzah indeed to young Zef, perhaps even a "Yah-Boo".

I can think of a medication that relieves pain, actually reduces nausea, and is a naturally-occuring herbal substance but apparently it's plenty illegal South of 49....

"I talked to my doc about switching me to that once the Vicodin started to make me vomit, but he put me on Lortab instead"

Isn't Lortab just generic Vicodin? That's what they gave me last year. And by extension...wink wink!

Hey, Bill, I saw this awesome show on PBS last night and thought of you. Dunno if/when it'll be repeated in your neck of the woods, but here's the link in any case.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/excats/index.html

Re: the Vicuprofen, I talked to my doc about switching me to that once the Vicodin started to make me vomit, but he put me on Lortab instead, which seems to mainly make me sweat profusely. Charming side-effect, that.

I haven't got time to catch up in here right now, but have we all sent a summary shout-out to young Zefiel for having snagged his new teaching position? (And a few late birthday huzzahs at no extra charge?)

See, Ernst, I threw in that 'huzzah' thing entirely for your benefit, you wacky SCA geek, you...least I could do, given how your way-kewl Korean pages inspired my own travel stuff at Webshots (not yet ready for human consumption, however--link forthcoming, honest).

Anyone seen Bamboozled? I just did. Yowsa. I wasn't expecting it to be one of the greatest movies ever.

Okay, that was probably unfair, since the word "scuffle" wasn't in the quote I was referencing. (And you're right, "shuffle" is probably what he meant to write.) Seeing the word repeated like that triggered one of my loose neurons, I guess.

Here's a page that popped up when I googled "mutiny mutiny mutiny", which explains the quote:

http://www.comedystars.com/Bios/freberg_stan.shtml

RE. Davey's last manouveur in Disneyecho....*looking at picture*
DUDE! he's HENSHINING! He is the one called SailorPhrack!

Ah, I was wondering how long until Davey's latest deposits were spotted.
Scarlett: Yup. Davey's got the ultra-realistic Gay-Persecution complex just PERFECT down to the last NUANCE, hasn't he? Good lord. While gay characters are commonplace in television and fiction without their orientation dictating their identity, Davey's gotten as far as... oh... when Carl showed up in the Simpsons 'Dimoxynil' episode. 14 years ago.
He looks like he's tramping through week-old beard growth.

Rabbit: I would be VERY surprised if the current Disney echo regulars catch onto his ego game. Not a cynical bone among them ;p. The worst they'll do is stop playing and wander off.

If I were Nitsan, I'd be mortally insulted at being offered cosplay. She'd also be more likely to be about 3 sizes SMALLER than Tara, being a petite Japanese. Oh wait... forgot where we are for a minute. She has the same iron-feet and inflated legs like everyone else. Never mind! Now look KAWAII, Nitwit! You're japanees, phrack it!
And is it me, or does Nitwit look perpetually stoned?...

On the "Is Bush Wired?" question:
What's that under his tie?
(Via Atrios, who everybody should read)

If you read the last coupla installments of the game, Davey's having a hard time keeping from making himself the star all the time. You can almost see the Bush-like eyerolling and grimacing as he allows mere mortals to share his stage. But don't worry, Mickey still likes him best!

I noticed that too. I'm betting that the main reason Davey's doing this is so that the other players will pay attention to him. I wonder how long it will take them to realize that they were duped into being part of his ego-fest fanatasy land?

Mike, that's so obscure, I couldn't even Google it.

And isn't the sound effect for walking "shuffle," and the word for a fight "scuffle"? Even with his volunteer proffredder, Davey has probs.

More..."art"work here.
If you read the last coupla installments of the game, Davey's having a hard time keeping from making himself the star all the time. You can almost see the Bush-like eyerolling and grimacing as he allows mere mortals to share his stage. But don't worry, Mickey still likes him best!

He's missing one "scuffle". Then he could do the classic

Scuffle scuffle scuffle.
Mutiny mutiny mutiny.

(extra points to anyone who gets the obscure reference).

What exactly is Jim scuffle scuffling through? A stormy sky? A dandruff-y scalp? The piles of crap this comic is based on? And "What ho?" I can't even make fun of that, it's so stupid.

Of course Nitsan is into cosplay. She's Japanese. All japanese girls prance around in school uniforms well into their thirties. I think there's a law about it over there.

"What ho"

Well, I'm thinking some chick in a costume that's either a bot or a cartoon and has some kind of ears and tail and falls madly in love with DVK on sight.

What ho indeed. Bring 'er on!

Edited by author 10-10-2004 03:13 PM
http://www.deviantart.com/view/11286062/
scuffle scuffle

Meanwhile, Livewire continues at its usual breakneck speed:

http://www.deviantart.com/view/11286564/
She's using the Internets!

http://www.deviantart.com/view/11286624/
Oh, good. She's going to go to work dressed up as Sailor Moon. I was afraid it'd be a Sally Acorn costume.

Wow. Some pretty dodgy shite there, kisrael. But still extremely funny, if it's true. The chimp can't be trusted to speak on his own....

Bill, sorry to hear about your fall.

My current favorite rumor: There are rumors that Bush, in a Cyrano-like move, has a guy feeding him lines for the debates, in a hidden earpiece. Now, I'm not saying I'd figure that out by just watching the guy in last night's debate, but I'd definately say the way he spoke in short burts, sometimes with bent grammar, and SOMETIMES looking off to the side as if he was listening, is not incompatible with that theory.

http://www.isbushwired.com/

The Sunday following the first debate, I happened to turn the TV on just as Fox News was firing up. "Say, let's see if they're spinning this thing." What I saw was their gang of pundits sitting around with long faces, pondering aloud how the Prez could have "dropped the ball" so badly. Hehehe.

Didn't watch much of last nights, as I don't vote there and "C.H.U.D." was on another channel. Nuclear flesh-eating mutants are less conducive to nightmares than GWB.

Did anyone else catch Mr. President in the second debate when he said "fastle"? What was he going for there?

Edited by author 10-09-2004 12:39 AM
I remember the "WE HELPED" line - but not from the original commercials. It's a RHPS callback line. "Master, dinner is prepared!" "And I helped!" Now I know where that came from.

I am an old person, but an old person who grew up without SNL ;)

Cheap Shake'n'Bake soon, and WAE HAILPED! (Old people get that joke)

I'm officially an old people then. I remember an old Saturday Night Live skit, with Dan Akroyd as Pres. Jimmy Carter, being interviewed by someone, and at one point he answers "And Ah Hailped!" and got a big laugh.

We return you to your regularly scheduled program. Bill, I hope your ribs are feeling better soon (ouch! I've done the stupid climb-on-a-chair-with-casters thing, and escaped with a slightly twisted ankle.)

Bill, sometimes you have those days where you just need to dwell in a heavily padded sumo suit for a while. The kits could climb it.
I adore eating, personally. Food = Secret Lover. AND I have Lucky Bitch metabolism! Every time I try to contemplate the fact that some people just don't care for food, several synapses in my brain die ;)

Edited by author 10-08-2004 04:47 PM
[EDIT/SELECT ALL/DELETE] Nope. Not leaving that up. I suck. Sorry, Bill. As amends, here's the funniest name I have had to deal with all week: Orion Raycraft. I swear it's true.

I'm TIRED. I give 6 classes a day, nonstop. one group comes out, the other comes in. otherwise than that and the frustration of the students not learning (and the fear it's my fault), it's going well. old people are way good students. and there's a junior high girl in one group that is as out of place as Bush in an aircraft carrier. thanks for the good thoughts, and remember that TV could be worse. LIKE TV IN MEXICO.

I wonder how long it'll be till we see people dying or being killed for sport like on "The Running Man". Every year lately I wonder how much worse TV can get, and every year I get shown how. I think since Survivor started on the air I haven't watched much TV - I can count on one hand the number of shows I watch regularly.

Congrats on the new job Zeifel - I hope it goes well for ya.

From the "I always think nothing on TV would surprise me, but then they prove me wrong again" department:

Farmyard furore as Five lets Rebecca Loos on porker

Thankies for the advice, Ernst!

I don't smoke anymore, and coffee's something that has to be done, so i don't worry about that. still, i've never understood that breathing from the stomach thing. if you had mentioned the xprize as 'that prize for the civilian spacecraft' i wouldn't have associated it with the xbox.

Bill, RE: catching flies, not to brag, but Kiwi did catch a fly once. he was just all staring quietly at it while it was on the edge of our sofa. then he just kinda reached up and to the front quickly, and then pulled his paws off. and then he partook of its itty bitty flesh.

Oh, heavens. That thing about the Alaskan mud is high-octane funny car style nightmare fuel. Like the inevitably but not instantly fatal wounds of the US civil war, but without any distracting pain. Eurgh....

http://www.xprize.org/
It was more of a general discussion thing than a Zef-specific item.

Edited by author 10-05-2004 10:00 PM
eeee, thankies everyone!! sometimes like now i'm home early and can get down with internet at the internet cafe, so at least i'll try to keep updating DJ (like now, with a HUGE entry about how i got the job), and i'll try as much to be around here. thankies all again. what's funky is that this past oct 1st i both became 20 and got the job.

Ernst: mm, meat. X-what?

For the remaining Phrack Whores, I just added two more pages to the Disneyecho fic:
http://home.mindspring.com/~mimisgrotto/misc/davey_marcie04.html

Zef:
*weep* Fare thee well, gentle soldier!

Vaya con carne, Zef!
(poor grammar and spelling mistakes are unintenional but pretty much certain)

So... how about that X-prize?

Good luck with the new job, Zef. We'll miss you!

"I gots a new (paid) Job!!!!"

THAT ROX!!!

"cable internet. maybe as soon in one year!"

THAT R--oh, wait, that doesn't rox at all!!! THAT SUX!
I hope you'll find a way to communicate before 2005. You'll be missed. :(

Sadly (well, i know it's not) i won't be available to comment on Gontahman. I gots a new (paid) Job!!!!

I'm now an english and MS-DOS teacher. hopefully i'll eventually have enough money to either pay phone or get cable internet. maybe as soon in one year!

Edited by author 10-04-2004 07:17 PM
And is it any wonder why web cartoonists don't get no respect and a bare handful of us get noticed....?
If you are BEGGING for content, then perhaps you should sniff under your virtual armpits first.

This is his most recent comment on his devianart account. It made me let out a low comfy snigger:
Your art is amazing David. Very similar to the hot steaming art I fire out of my backside after dinner at waffle house.
heh. Hot Steaming Art. That's rather appropriate, actually.

Remember Planeswalker, the comic Davey did for Grimmoire.com? I wondered why they chose him. It turned out that they used to pay for their content, but then they drove all their advertisers away. When the site stopped for good, they admitted that they'd been forced to accept "any content at all," and paid people in Magic cards.

Since Snowflake Studios' strips bite major hose, I figured that Davey fit right in. From the site:
http://snowflakestudios.keenspace.com/
"And I beg of you, if you would like to do a comic for October, please e-mail me"
They're begging! And if you check today's "Skid Markz," you can see why.
Maybe we should make our own shitty comic and see if it gets accepted. You know, rip off old Ferd'nands and redraw them (in pencil with no erasures) with Furry protagonists.

Awesome Ed Edd n Eddy art, apparently from an employee:
http://embrio.deviantart.com/

"Mickey swallowed once..."

Maybe he should start calling them "Mickey Jobs."

"Mickey swallowed once and you hear a soft 'plop.'"

Wow. Short digestive tract.

There's a few typos in there ("impeeeding" and "hansome"--that last adjective describing Davey's avatar, o'course). And his trademark tense-switching continues ("Mickey swallowed once and you hear a soft 'plop.'").
It is an improvement. There weren't any sentences I had to read 3 times to figure out what he was trying to say.

Enter the Stu. Adam's the 'Black Sheep' of the Mickey Mouse Club. Of course. I wonder if Davey will stretch so far as to fanfic Roy Disney to CEO and himself to President of Disney?
You know what I noticed about the text itself? It contains very few of Davey's notorious spelling and grammar manglings. Shall we celebrate Davey's discovery of spellcheck?

Edited by author 10-03-2004 01:13 PM
There's a bit of new Gonterman "art" here, if anyone's interested. Interested in having their eyes ripped out of their skull, that is.

Bill: I love all animals, but it's Mr Mimi who's the cat person. We know we'd like to get 2 cats someday - he wants to call then Dieter and Karlheinz. He's odd. We dropped by Petco yesterday and there were cat adoptions going on.. there was a litter of 4 kittens - one tabby-torty with a badly infected eye(the carers knew this and were treating it) and three pure white fluffballs(which of course made me think of Killsy. Except these were fluffier). Very cute indeed, but y'know... there's gotta be that spark when you see the one meant for you. Not today.

Can't sleep again. Restless Leg Syndrome. The second I stop obsessive-compulsing about the STUPID NONSENSICAL OBSESSION WHICH WILL REMAIN UNNAMED, I'm going back off the meds. I don't need this garbage. DRUGS ARE BAD, CHILDREN. Even prescription drugs. I don't know how junkies ever get started.

M3:
Hee! My favorite was Brock's birthday present to the Monarch. I guess violence is the only way he knows how to express his love. What other show would you have ever seen that in?! Besides the Tick?

Lav, oh god, I was just coming in to post that! Stop, Touch and Tell! So hysterical!

But the best (other than the exchange about circumcision) was the "Who was supposed to feed the butterflies?!?!"

Calling a dumb cat after DVK is just cruel, Bill. I'm ashamed. Tsk.

Oh yeah, and if you haven't already, check out kitsplut's livejournal. She's got a fantastic new entry.

I'm not afraid of bees.

You know, come to think of it, I'm not afraid of insects, big animals, heights, the dark, or alien probings. The only thing that's ever been able to scare me is my fellow man.

If you just got finished watching the Venture Brothers, check this out:
http://www.scrotalsafetycommission.com/
If you didn't just finish watching the Venture Brothers, what the hell is wrong with you?!

If the cat turned out to be remarkably stupid, you could call it Daveykins.

Bill reads slashdot? Bill has never read slashdot. So no need for races.
Although current race stats stand at: Snard 1, Kirk 0.

MIMI! Get a kittennnnnnnn! We want to hear about your lil' goofball!
Let me guess the name: Female, Lilo. Male, Stitch.
You could always get 2!

Naughty Hooligan Rabbit! Perhaps... might it be that The Gont is actually chinese, and it's his translating software rather than his soft, unwrinkled brain that's to blame for his writing "style"? It doesn't help the drawing, tho'.

Is there an echo in here?

One thing to add - a new video card will enable you to play DOOM 3. The baby, the puppy, not even the kitten can do that!

Hey Bill --
HAve you seen http://www.dansdata.com/kitten.htm ? It's a high teck review of Juvenile felis catus. Includes a side by side features rundown vs. a puppy, baby, and new video card.

That's it, I'm gonna drag Mr Mimi to Petmart today and look at kittens. Just cuz.
Babies. Ech. My maternal instincts only kick in when I find a small, abandoned animal.

You could always have a Monkey Baby, rock on.
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_492558.html

Y'know, as a woman of A Certain Age, I've been wondering if I ought to do my duty to the human race and have a baby. But now, after reading that article and giving it some thought, I've decided I want a kitten instead. But since my home isn't a pet friendly place I'll buy a new video card.

Warning: another of Mike's topic changes imminent.

I know Bill reads Slashdot, so it's a race to see if I can post this here before he does.

Review: Juvenile felis catus

TARBABY!!!!! I LAUGHED SO HARD!!!!

of course I'm a weeeeee bit into happy hour. But the use of tarbaby has GOT to make a comeback dammit

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/11018833/

Eeuw. Android fur-boobs.

"I wonder if he knows of Davey's long and illustrious career?"

Probably feels good for giving some useful tips to the poor, half-talented 12-year old. For the love of God, man, don't touch the tarbaby!

*checking out the profile of 'daybreakcat', Davey's benevolent beta on deviantart.* Hm. He joined August 29th and has no artwork at ALL on his account. Most of his activity seems to be in the DA forums and comments on other people's work. Very articulate, clearly intelligent. Either he's a bona fide professional creator or a supremely skilled troll;)

I wonder if he knows of Davey's long and illustrious career?

re. Davie's comments. I noticed noone really is there for HIS stuff, they're just doing the netiquette thing of saying thanks. That's why I was surprised that someone there is actually dealing feedback. There's no 'ur stuff ROX!' at all, this guy doesn't hold back with the criticism. Mind you, he barely scratches the surface of everything possibly wrong with Gontie's work. I notice that he accepts Davey's replies with 'Oh I understand, we all had to start somewhere'. How long has Davey been doing this now? 7 years or more? Even the great cartoonists never stop evolving, but I'd call Davey's art more 'still-born' than evolving ;p

You don't have to play nice when commenting on Gontie's deviantART page.

From genfluke: "Your art is amazing David. Very similar to the hot steaming art I fire out of my backside after dinner at waffle house."

Looks like most of the comments are just "thanks for putting me on your favorites!" ("Yeah, thanks for laying your diseased eye on my artwork, Davey-kins. I'll never feel clean again.")

I am reminded of the Presidential Palm Pilot:
http://www.whitehouse.org/kids/palm/index.asp
An oldie but a goodie.

The Bush-notes are great. Except that I highly doubt Bush knows how to spell douche. But I love the Kerry-with-his-legs-cut-off. Priceless.

I didn't notice Bush doing much writing. It looked like Kerry took notes on everything, but Bush spent most of his time looking irritated and bored. To be fair, I caught Kerry rolling his eyes a couple of times.

Nice :) The Bush-notes, I mean.

As for Tara avoiding net hook-ups, why's she hooking the laptop up to herself, then? If it's to act as a highly-intelligent peripheral scanner for the laptop, I don't see how that keeps her safe. if she has her own firewall, then the whole line of argument is totally moot, because then she WOULD be safe from viruses and... BAH! FerGET it! DAVEY GO SQUISH NOW!

At least a virus hitting Tara would be a PLOT!
Bill: When I saw the second panel of Scarlett, my first thought was to bellow, Tom-Servoish: 'AH, I'm in another dimension, aaaah!'. Frame one, Jim exits normal-looking building into open air. Frame two, suddenly we're in a minimalist artspace at MOMA, what's up with that?

OK, it's sad to say I actually got that the strip meant a laptop was safer than the FuckBot, erm, Tara, connecting to the internet through herself. I can retain that knowledge from some previous strip/try at a strip, but I can't recall 90 other different important things.

Proof that exposure to DVK causes brain rot.

I guess it does make sense though, because if one of those l33t haxors (did I get that right? I'm not up on my pathetic geek talk) gets a virus through to Tara, oh god, what will DVK have to fuck?

Because the only one allowed to put trojans in Tara is DVK! *bum ching* Thank you, I'm here all week! Try the fish!

Also, a friend of a friend made this and posted in her LJ, I figured you'd all get a kick out of it... it's what Bush was writing during the debate:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/buffyx/133228.html

Scroll down past the Sex Pistols header. Obviously.

"I thought that YOU PEOPLE have better job prospects than...YOU KNOW."

No, I DON'T know!
WTF's he talking about?!
Well, them GAYS, of whom (as of this week) he's as fond of as if they were Magic cards, but...who's "YOU KNOW"?
Is he saying that gays usually get hired MORE frequently than...
the YOU KNOWS?
WTF. Who are they?
St Louis internet cartoonists with MBAs from the local community college who work for their mommy?

And what the hell building are they in in panel 2? Floating Stonehenge?

Wow... extra, you can see the NEXT not-posted yet ep of Livewire here:
http://www.deviantart.com/view/11018046/
So I was right, Tara IS the wireless hub. I still don't get the 'safety' thing, though! *laugh*.
Ah, and Nitwit has a green card. How, pray? Did Adam's dad sponser her as his *cough* 'daughter'?

Ernst: Oh, totally traced! And I'm glad I wasn't the only one who went 'Guh?' at the 'No offense' comment. Ah, so Davey's new enlightened knowledge of gays has surmised that all straights refer to gays as 'you people'...uh-huh.
Who wants to go Davey-Smacking? >;)....

From the front page of Yahoo.com:
"Candidates clash over Iraq, foreign policy; sharp differences emerge"
GOSH! Smell the journalism! You're all invited over to my house if Bush wins-- the joint'll be empty, because we're fleeing to Europe. Or New Zealand. Or maybe Mars.

Any bets the Gont traced that building in the upper panel? And I notice he's using the old English-speaking tradition of attempting to excuse fantastically offensive statements with a "No offense,..." preface.

Edited by author 09-30-2004 11:31 PM
Oh, btw, the next episode of Scarlett PI is up on DVK's deviantart account:
http://www.deviantart.com/view/11019209/
How the HELL can he fill an entire page with a single exchange of dialogue??? Is he trying to take 2 pages of story and pad it out to 2 year's worth of installments?

What's interesting is that someone is actually feeding him polite concrit. Of course, he doesn't say 'Oh thanks.. I'll look out for that'. It's all MEANT to be shite.
Oh no! He had to rush because the strip began early!...and he doesn't even need to ink. At his level of execution, I could do about half a dozen of those a DAY.

And meh. Word, dude. 9_9

I don't know about the debate, I was over on E! watching the 101 Most Memorable SNL moments. We don't have SNL in Australia, never have. So I have catch-up to do.

back to Gonterman...
Bill, should I EVER run across Gontie in the course of my comic-making duties, I shall be sure and mention that he needs to fic those ham-like feet ;)
I think Nitwit doesn't so much look startled (probably the intention) as catatonic.
Nitwit: Oh, kami-sama!...he's one of THOSE!!! help!
Ah yes. They have SO many memories to keep. What happened to the whole 'putting past transgressions behind you', Davey?!
The whole laptop vs desktop 'security' reasoning makes me cry inside. Laptop safer than a PC. A firewall is a firewall, tapioca-for-brains! Anyway, I thought his furry Mary Sue, Tara, was a walking wireless network herself.

Marc:
"As a side note I recently quit my job to work in retail"

And you have my profoundest sympathies.
Maybe you can start a SHAWT or OSB-style website! Trust me, it helps to have a place to vent.

Hmmm...We've got the debate thread started, so here's another:
Plug your website here!

Edited by author 09-30-2004 11:21 PM
"Kerry-professional and well-spoken
Bush-gibbering moron"

That's my opinion, and I didn't even watch!

A customer asked me today if I was going to watch.
"No."
"Why? Made your mind up already, or not interested?"
"Well--both, really."
(smiles) "You don't look like a Bush supporter!"
"You mean--I don't look like an idiot?"
(laughter)

Edit:
Right after it (roughly) ended, I dropped a 50 on Kerry.

Not to distract from the Gontertalk, but I was just curious about what everybody thought about the debate tonight. My analysis:

Kerry-professional and well-spoken
Bush-gibbering moron

"Between me and Adam, we have aquired a lot of memories we like to keep."

Well, you better stop huffing that NGT if you want to hang onto them, kid. Damn, I dunno, maybe it's an old Dracula costume with the wig upside-down.

And of course, EVERYONE knows that viruses have to be able to physically clamber up a wire into your computer to do any damage!

Last panel:

A laptop, because laptops apparently don't connect directly to the Inter-Net?

A slip-on shoe?

A skirt? Who knows!

Mystery Panel, enter and sign in please, you're on What's that Drawing!

As a side note I recently quit my shift-work computer operator job to work in retail selling car parts. Dealing with the general public is interesting, to say the least.

http://livewire.keenspace.com/

Is it me, or does every word balloon sound like it's from a different conversation?
And what's with that last panel?

Edited by author 09-30-2004 11:30 PM
At the moment the alarm went off this morning, I was dreaming that I was at a water park with Mimi (who was Indian). Despite being shoulder-deep in water, she pulled out her "mobile" (that's foreigner for "cell") and called Gonterman's 1-800 complaint hotline. She complained about "the feet that look like hams."

What a crazy dream! If Davey really had a complaint line, no one could get through on the first try!

That's my second Gonterdream...I must be going insane.

I think that those images *are* supposed to look sexual. And I think they're also funny as hell. Why can't they sell those at the theater where I do RHPS? Think of all the raunchy jokes we could do about happy fruits in your mouth.

Edited by author 09-30-2004 06:09 PM
All that hot citrus action! It's enough to take one's mind off the back-breaking labour of the maple syrup mines....
And for God's sakes--NEVER utter the word "poutine"!
...because Canadian, like Mandarin, relies on intonation, and the slightest mispronunciation is a dreadful insult (likening one's creative urges to that of a Gonterman), which can be answered only with a traditional castor gras duel to the death.

Actually, that lemon one does look awfully sexual. Who wants to be looking at that when they're shoveling snack treats in their mouth?

I just saw this mentioned in Neil Gaiman's blog, and had to post it here.

Students at a Catholic school complained about new Haribo sweet wrappers which they claim portray fruit having sex

I'm with Negs. At least Mustard Boy story-teller ADMITS he sucks and doesn't try to convince the world he's Stan Lee. But still...paying a google ad... someone report this site to cruel.com! ;)

Ernst:
I too have read "The Sparrow", after seeing a review for it on Slashdot. And I too found it very interesting. Speaking of books that mingle religion and science fiction, I can also recommend "A Canticle for Leibowitz", which I've read several times in the past couple decades. I don't recall if the order in the book is Jesuit, however. And there is a sequel: "Saint Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman", which I also enjoyed, but not as much as the first book.

Downside: Lame. Terrible art. Lame.

Upside: Short. And, unlike DVK's work, there was an actual idea behind it beyond "I'll take the stuff I like this year and make a nonsensical comic in which it all orbits around myself."

SFX: *STUPID WORLD EXPLODES!!*

Kiru:
Ernst is...well, you know...We don't like to talk about it, but, you know...he's--
(whisper) Canadian!
Keep that to your self. Those people are just, you know, strange. And they don't like it when you say it to their faces.
And for God's sakes--NEVER utter the word "poutine"!

Bitte: You want to see knee-jerk Buddhism? Live in Boulder for a couple years.

"Somebody owes us all a new set of corneas."

It's that guy running into Korea! NOT ME!

Somebody is actually paying for a Google ad...for a 5-episode strip? That ended in 1998?! That can only mean that:
DVK=GOD
ergo--
*BOOM*
(world ends)

Somebody owes us all a new set of corneas.

AAHHH!!!
http://www.mustardboy.com/
From the Google ads.
Davey is GOD compared to this guy.

Edited by author 09-29-2004 10:35 PM
M3: I deny any responsibility for asslessness, and you'll never get extradition on a civil matter. But, thanks. ;-)

Negs: You need either more Jesuits or more followers of Asian philosophy in your class. One of the things I love about Buddhism is that, so far as I've found, there isn't this sort of rabid, knee-jerkiness to it. I suspect there's not a lot of frothing Confuscians, either. Maybe your philosophy class needs some zombies to liven it up. Oh, I mention Jesuits, because they seem to actually be able to devote some thought to their faith without getting snappish. Of course, I understand that Jesuits are about as likely as Mahayana Buddhist lamas in that part of the world. As with political science, play the word game, don't point out the underlying idiocy of that mode of study, and get reasonable marks.

[edit: I knew there was a reason I had Jesuits in my head (OW!)-- recently read "The Sparrow", by Mary Doria Russell, which is about a failed Jesuit mission to a distant planet, and the crisis in faith it engenders. Good read, and it may give you some thinking points to offer the Fundies in class.]

I'm just now going through the Ernst Bitterman (that's not your real name, is it?!) slideshow and laughing my ass off. "Shintos like string" is going to be my catch phrase anytime anyone ever asks me "Why" about ANYTHING! I'm still wiping tears. So funny.

Philosophy classes are indeed a steaming slice of Hell. If it was just the study of various ways of thinking and seeing the world, that would be one thing. I could see the value of that. But some of the garbage that we had to deal with in that class-! The worst of it wasn't even from the instructor, it was from the students. Bring any whiff of religion into the class and logic goes out the window, to be replaced with "It's THE TRUTH! THE BIBLE says so! Without God life is MEANINGLESS!" A priori, anyone?

The worst week of that class was when we discussed the syllogism "God is that-than-which-nothing-can-be-greater. That-which-exists is greater than that-which-does-not-exist, therefor to even be definable, God must exist." To which I say, BS, that's a freakin' wordgame. By that definition, the greatest atomic slide whistle must also exist. Class discussion kept slipping from "Does this prove God's existence?" to "Does God exist?" - and I live in the Bible Belt, so you can imagine how heated it got. Finally a day was set aside just to debate that one issue and get it out of our systems. Knowing that I would be like General Custer, I skipped class that day, and I never skip class. As it turned out, the instructor said nobody made it to class. I guess everyone was sick of it by then.

Nope, didn't feel it. Of course at 10:15 I was probably banging on the copier and calling it a dirty whore, and given that I'm at a construction site there's always something vibrating or banging or moving. It was pretty damn far away, actually, so... Still no excitement in my life :P

heh. Adams earmarked the part of Agrajag for himself and actually recorded it, so they're using it.
My sister works for the Beeb, so I'll ask her about the terrifying powers ;)