Nelly,

Is the meeting on October 5 for Florida Rock or Dickerson?
I've seen meetings scheduled on here for the 21st and the 30th of September, so I don't know which dates are right. Was the meeting for Florida Rock on the 14th cancelled? If not, were they granted their permit for expansion?
             Thanks,
             Sonya Carnahan
P.S. I'm glad everyone survived the hurricane and there was no structural damage to neighbors' homes. We are all ok also. =)

New updated meeting posted,
dickerson florida - sept 30, 2004 @6pm
florida rock october 5, 2004 @6pm

Sorry for a bit of the delay, working on several satellite imagery of mines all over America

link: http://www.norock.org/meetings.htm

I don't know how could he possibly say that we need such hurricane to clean up the river. I would like to point out that the coastal areas/beach would be free of silt and mud due to huge wave action, but the rivers will be full of silt and mud from erosion from properties lying near the canals that lead to the rivers possible several feet added on the existing mud.

Thank you for the meeting updates. I look forward to seeing you all again, but I don't look forward to the meeting. Take care and I hope the rains aren't too much of a convenience for you!!

Wow, where did all of this rain come from? Everything is more so flooded than the aftermath of Hurricane Frances. Is this from Jeanne? I heard it was from Ivan. Wishing someone could dig out the ditches...
Sonya C.

Here are some pictures of the aftermath of Hurricane Jeanne. I hope everyone came out of the hurricane ok. My mom, sister, and I rode out the storm at my house. There were a few leaks but no serious damage. Take care everyone and stay safe.
God bless,
Sonya C.
Ft. Pierce, Fl.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/weather/conte...torm/photos/jeanne/

I hope SFWMD sees this flooding problem. This is a result of pumping out water from the grove area to keep them from flooding! If they approve this Dickerson Mine who will be pumping water 24x7 days a week, we will be more than 2 feet of water at Carlton road, and all the people at St. Lucie county city area and near the st. lucie county river will be flooded more than 3 feet of water during seasonal flooding and hurricane season! SFWMD personnel cannot even get to their floodgate station to refill the tank of their generator due to flooding!

I agree with "flooding at Carlton Road". You are apsolutely correct.

11470 Carlton Rd.
Port St. Lucie,Fl. 34987

Hello!
I received a certified letter from the Department of Environmental Protection of the State of Florida with the notice of intent and aerial maps. Did anyone else receive one of these? Just wanted to let you all know that.

Sonya Carnahan
11470 Carlton Rd.
Port St. Lucie, Fl. 34987
468-7497
812-9150

Yes, we got too, though there were just a few listed name on the list at the end of the letter.

I sent an email to Howard Hayes of how many mines have been denied so far he mentioned only one!They only started taking charge of the permitting in 1995.

I don't really know who hired all these people who think rubber stamps is the best invented object! Possibly, it looks like they need more work to do to keep their hands away from the rubber stamps!

Is it a good thing the commissioners meeting is already sheduled? Apparently P&Z have no say in it going to the commisioners, so why are we wasting our time with them? Does it make a difference if the meeting is already scheduled for the commissioners?

The Commissioners meeting is set for Dec 7, 2004 @ 6pm.

As far as P&Z goes, it is very important that we have as many people there as possible. Win or Lose correct it is still in the hands of the commissioners, but it is VERY IMPORTANT to be at all the meetings up coming if we are going to win this.

It is a long fight and has been since March 2004 and will probobaly continue for many more

Here is a great quote from one of the most inspirational speakers I have ever heard. Head basketball coach for NC State who died of Cancer and started the "V" Foundation for cancer research.

"Don't give up, don't ever give up" Jimmy Valavano

That statement says alot. Lets all keep positive no matter what happens in Planning and Zoning and show up so they know we are serious.

Yes, we urge all people from St. Lucie county to attend all the meetings related to this Dickerson Florida Mining including the Planning and Zoning meetings. Just remember, it is not only the people at Carlton Road who is going to be affected. It will be all the people at St. Lucie County- just think of where Germany Canal and C24 Canals go -the floodings when the hurricane hit the county. Just remember Tampa running out of potable water and the Mulberry/Piney Point-IMC-phosphate mine that is up to now a disaster zone, Mississippi flooding, etc. Army Corps of Engineers, FDEP and SFWMD do not care of what will happen to the county. All they care is how much taxpayers money they can spend! The welfare of the county depends on what the St. Lucie government -i.e., PLZ,Commissioners, public,etc.- wants to do with itself. So we urge all to attend the meetings.

Writer #33, who are you? You seem to have some important inside information, and if it helps us fight this Dickerson proposal, please contact us so we can use it to succeed!!

I don't agree with your premise -- our elected officials have set up the P&Z structure to help them make good decisions -- if the public doesn't show up at EVERY public hearing, then the public's concerns are not heard. We MUST attend. The days of back room political deal-making must be dissolved in favor of transparency.

Let me take it one step further. Public participation in government IS our American form of government. To be so cynical as to walk away from our responsibilities as Americans is reprehensible.

Edited by author 10-16-2004 04:38 PM
Hello Craig and Philip,

I'm all for going to the meetings and opposing this mine. What do you mean about important information? I will most deffinately be at both meetings, but I thought it was up to Planning and Zoning for it to go through to the Commissioners. I think it's urgent for us to be a the meetings, but it confused me that the date had already been sent for the Commissioners, ya know? And I probably wrote that wrong, but what I meant when I said why are we wasting our time, I was thinking we should go straight to the commissioners, but whatever it takes to get them to oppose this, I'm not giving up on our fight!!

Sonya Carnahan

Sonya,

It is standard government practice as was witht he first original meeting that they have to schedule all the meetings for a particular topic with certain guidlines.

for example, the P&Z meeting is set for 10/21/04 and subsequently the BOCC meeting is scheduled for 12/7/04. Now that takes into account everything goes ok at P&Z. If not then the BOCC Meeting would not happen and would be rescheduled.

hope this helps