http://www.stlucieco.gov/slctv/P_Z_OnDemand.htm Date: May 17, 2007

Stark Ranch and Gin-La Housing Development in Glades Cutoff Road
PZ-05- 07 3-I Ordinance No. 07-027 – Stark Ranch

AN ORDINANCE OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT TEXT TO CREATE A NEW FIGURE 1-7L STARK RANCH MIXED USE, LOW INTENSITY, FUTURE LAND USE DISTRICT INCLUDING SUB AREA POLICIES, AND TO AMEND OBJECTIVE 1.1.7 TO ADD TRANSITIONAL LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, AND ADD A NEW POLICY 1.1.7.6 CREATING A NEW MIXED USE DISTRICT – RURAL TRANSITION (MXDRT), A NEW POLICY 1.1.7.6.A. MXDRT LOCATION CRITERIA AND MINIMUM ACREAGE, A NEW POLICY 1.1.7.B. MXDRT DENSITY ALLOCATIONS, A NEW POLICY 1.1.7.C. MXDRT CONCEPTUAL OVERLAY, ALLOWABLE USES, AND MIXED USE STANDARDS, A NEW POLICY 1.1.7.6.D. MXDRT COMPATIBILITY, A NEW POLICY 1.1.7.E. LAND USE NEEDS/MARKET EVALUATION, A NEW POLICY 1.1.7.6.F. FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY/LIMITED TRANSITIONAL SERVICES, A NEW POLICY 1.1.7.6.G. ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROLS/SUITABILITY, AND A NEW POLICY 1.1.7.6.H. IMPLEMENTATION MECHANISMS; AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM AG-5, AGRICULTURE, 1 DWELLING UNIT PER 5 ACRES PERMITTING A MAXIMUM OF 763 DWELLINGS, TO THE PROPOSED STARK RANCH MXD LOW INTENSITY, PERMITTING A MAXIMUM OF 1,495 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS AND 495 RESORT CONDOMINIUMS, 1 DWELLING UNIT PER 2 ACRES, WITH MAXIMUM COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OF 200,000 SQUARE FEET, FOR A 3,814.74 (m.o.l.) PARCEL OF LAND LOCATED AT THE NW CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF GLADES CUTOFF ROAD AND RANGE LINE ROAD; PROVIDING FINDINGS; PROVIDING FOR APPLICABILITY; PROVIDING FOR FILING WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE; PROVIDING FOR TRANSMITTAL TO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

Re: The P&Z Meeting extension on 5/17/07, approximately 2:34 into the SLCTV presentation--

I am INCENSED that the Ginn/Stark Ranch people represent that they have spoken to the "norock.org and nosmog.org organization".

There is no such thing. My wife and I own the websites referenced and the IP of these sites is copyrighted, NO third party can speak for these names.

Further NO one has contacted us. For the applicant to claim that they have done so is an outright fabrication.

They have sullied our name -- neighbors have been calling us to ask why we spoke on their behalf -- something which we would NEVER purport to do and I find it absolutely unconscionable that The Ginn Company would make such false statements to the Board members.

Hi All,
 
A neighbor called us about the Stark Ranch and Ginn Corp. housing development along Glades Cutoff Road and Range Line Road. Mr. Bill Taylor told us about the mention of meetings with NoRock.Org, and having breakfast meetings with the people of Glades Cutoff and Carlton Road and Phil Stickles.
 
 So I went to county SLC-TV online and watched the meeting. Sure enough Ginn/Stark representatives mention the surrounding residents says "Whoo-pie" to the project, that we're delighted with their ideas, they have a list of people from NoRock.Org - 25 people- they met with regarding the project.
 
We are outraged with the developers' false statement and using our name and websites, as we are not aware this is happening or have never been invited to such meetings.
 
. First I would like to clarify that NoRock.Org and NoSmog.Org (i.e. Craig and I as management and owners) never and will never make decision for you, your opinions and never want to represent you in anyway. We have never authorized or want anybody to represent you especially via our websites.
 
We already notified the County Commissioners about the developers' false statement about using NoRock.Org, and hopefully the email will also be received by the P&Z board members.
 
The project has been denied "not to transmit" whatever that means. There was a mention of another meeting next month but not sure about it.
 
Thank you for reading this email, have a nice weekend.

Got this from the mail: Thanks Mr. Whitehouse. Appreciate it!

 "We received a new ERP permit application today for a new 260-acre limerock mine. If approved, it will be located at the D'Albora Groves, 1.5 miles northeast of the proposed Dickerson Carlton Road mine site. The applicant is a subsidiary of the Ginn Company, named Ginn-LA WSL Ltd.; LLLP.

They will publish a notice of application soon. "




                 Alan Whitehouse
                Bureau of Mine Reclamation
                2051 East Dirac Drive
                Tallahassee, FL. 32310
                (850) 488-8217, ext 37
             email: alan.whitehouse@dep.state.fl.us

Edited by author 01-18-2006 06:45 PM
Matt,

I'm sad because you don't know the implication of silicosis even among rock mine workers. I'm sad because of your ignorance to death of rock mine workers due to inhalation of dust. We worked with rock companies, those who are newly hired have no lung problems.After several years of working in the mine, these people started coughing & experiencing lung congestion, joint problems and sinus irritation. These illness even intensify with those people who smoke! There are places for such activities but not right next to residents, especially to children! There's a study on animals - such as chickens and horses who are exposed to rock mining and the study showed that they are also affected by the dust inhalation resulting to severe lung congestion and death. If you are an operator in a rock crusher, I would suggest you wear a mask that can filter PM 2.5 or less. After a days work, check the mask and see how much dirt you're getting. Or don't even bother wearing a mask, just clean your nostril.If you are the owner, I guess you're a happy person since you're getting a lot of money from the business while incapacitating the people that work for you. Remember the illness manifest itself after so many years through accumulation of fine particles and scarring of the lung tissues well even after retirement period! This is about protecting the irreplaceable health of the people

The purpose of the website is not to get rid of the mines in Florida but (a.)To put it in appropriate places far from residents,- such as the rock mines in Miami (b) To help & provide information to the county and its residents.

Thank you for the suggestion, but we already have REAL JOBS!!!!!Some are nurses, doctors, etc. We donate our time and even work after work hours just to serve and protect the community's health & well-being. In fact, Mr. Stickles- one of the residents, spent a lot of time finding a place for them to mine. He found one selling for $10M, right next to SR 70 at St. Lucie County, with no people around it. If Dickerson Florida bought the property and mine it, the revenue for them would have been billions of dollars!

The company is cheap and deceitful!If you want statistics and information. I would suggest spending some time and read all the articles posted on the website and other scientific journals, that's only a part of all the work we did, we have boxes and boxes of information about the proposed rock mine!

Thank you for participating in the forum.

YOU PEOPLE ARE SAD, I GEUSS YOU DONT LIKE PAVED ROADS AND MUST LIKE LIVING IN MUD HUTS!!!, MY FAMILY AND JOB DEPENDS ON MINING IN FLORIDA, YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK, GO GET REAL JOBS!!!!!!

Edited by author 01-11-2006 08:44 PM
According to their website: the mining is reduced from 960 acre down to 300 acre. So what's going to stop them from doing the rest of the property if they got the permit...NOTHING!

Dickerson Florida & LBFH, Inc. are just a bunch of irresponsible, greedy people. Leave us alone and find your rocks someplace! The more time you fiddle with this questionable, destructive and health hazard mining right across the residents, the more time you'll be losing, finding a suitable place for your business!Put your effort more into Indrio mining area, you'll get more result there than trying to force this issue on us!

Please make sure an visit

http://www.petitiononline.com/crm10800/petition.html

thanks

Here's part of the agenda:
Approve warrant list No. 24

For Full list of Agenda:
http://www.stlucieco.gov/bocc2/bocc-calendar.htm

E. Request for a Public Hearing on Fort Pierce South (Florida Resources, LLC) Mining Permit Application – Consider staff recommendation to approve a public hearing to be held on April 19, 2005 at 6:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter to consider the request of the Fort Pierce South (Florida Resources, LLC) Mining Permit Application.

Stewart Mining at Indrio Road. I was told that the company bought the property too to mine. As per Dickerson Florida, LLC who said there is no rock left in the area, that they could not find any rocks anywhere and is willing to buy any. SO what does this proves then??? Share your thoughts!!!

We spoke to SFWMD & USACE and the permit applications were not pulled out of the reviews as according to LBFH, Inc. (whose one of the owner is also with the board of SFWMD, kind of weird, huh!), and Dickerson FL, Inc. have no desire to pull out the permits either! Reason: "they are going to investigate the history of the area!"

Why are these people wasting our tax money? Don't they realize that children and people are in the area already and why should they want to twist everything and jeopardize the safety and health of all the people living in the area? There's a property at SR70, big enough for them to destroy, the only thing is Dickerson FL has to come up with 10+million dollars, does this mean something? Let SFWMD & USACE reviewers do other better work than this!

If they are really concern about the people and given us consideration, they will pull out the permit and be done with it, and next time, not to plan their business around where people are existing, open your eyes and look at the surroundings!Do not pretend that people are not existing in the area and think they will "disappear"! Northwood, LLC offered this area first to a mining company other than Dickerson Florida. That mining company refused the offer due to the residents in the area - "too many people existing"!

To LBFH, Inc. and Dickerson Florida, if you are reading this message, please stop this nonsense, swallow your pride, accept the defeat, learn from it, and stop spending the taxpayers money! Leave us alone and get on with your other projects!

updated presentation made by Dr. James Kriseman about how silicosis does not occur in Florida Mining. Check Stat made by CDC.gov

http://www.norock.org/james_kriseman.htm

added new information on silicosis and related exposure on the website, including florida death statistics. Who says there is no silicosis in Florida, after all silicon is the second most abundant element on earth existing as quartz/silica.
Check under what's new!-month of december

added Dr. James D. Kriseman's speech at the BOCC and his credentials, etc.

I don't believe in what he says, about how negligeble the amount of silica content - 22% content, according to him. Remember it is the amount of exposure, how lognt eh person has been exposed and how much is accumulated in the lungs. As what the American Lung Association said. The small the body is the more severe the effects on the lungs.