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MrSpaz  1
06-06-2004 11:19 PM ET (US)
So tell us Bill, where do you find the images for the comments links? Do you look over French sites that often?
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  2
06-06-2004 11:22 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-07-2004 12:59 AM
I run a Google image search for "comment" or "comments," and then take the goofiest one I find.

The only French I know is "Je ne parle pas Francaise," which I prly just spelled wrong anyway.
(It means "I don't speak French")
Zefiel  3
06-07-2004 01:40 PM ET (US)
If that's the link to comments, i don't want to see the rest of that french site. probably had enough graphics to roast a 28.8k modem.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  4
06-07-2004 03:34 PM ET (US)
That comments picture was originally about 100K in size. Which is pretty dang big.
Lilly von Non-Bilingual  5
06-07-2004 08:54 PM ET (US)
Please--por favor--s'il vous plait--don't bring up French! (For that matter, Bill, don't bring up anything, preferably, whether it's clam juice or Dr. Phil's meal sub.) El pobre Zefster already has to suffer with my occasional forays into Spanish which can lapse into French without warning!

For all that I'm missing a Stanley Cup Game 7 (for the first time in eight years), I had to mention to the only guy I know who's a Stranglers fan (cos you are, right?) that we once again are facing the end of civilization as we know it: "Golden Brown" is currently being used to sell pre-packaged French fries. Whenever I see this commercial again I'll be sure to remember what brand it is, so you can rush out and boycott them. (Then again, the Stranglers can't be making beaucoup bucks off their back catalogue, so maybe they need all the help they can get.)

Still, here I was trying to get over Devo's "Uncontrollable Urge" being used in a Mitsubishi advert...though Mark Mothersbaugh's Target commercials have pretty much deadened my response to *that* particular aspect of youth being pilloried. O tempora! O mores! (Not a reference to Japanese food OR eels, thanks much.)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  6
06-07-2004 09:05 PM ET (US)
Lilly sez: "Golden Brown" is currently being used to sell pre-packaged French fries.

*KILLS SELF*

Wouldn't "Rise of the Robots" be more apropos?
Ernst Bitterman  7
06-08-2004 08:36 PM ET (US)
Gah, you hipsters with your music references... When I was going to school, only POPULAR kids were up on the music of the day!

The only French I know is "Je ne parle pas Francaise" About 10 years ago, the National Film Board had a short film which offered all the French us Anglos would even need to get along. This was the first item. The rest, if the offer worked in the other direction, went something like: "I'm very sorry, I speak no French. I beg your pardon, I speak no French. It is terrible, but I speak no French..."

I had CNN on briefly this morning, and they read part of a condolence note Jimmy (Socially Conscious) Carter wrote. He indicated that he and his wife joined the millions around the world who mourned the loss of Reagan, and after some stuff I've forgotten, indicated the great role Ronnie had in reshaping the Republican party. It took me a few seconds to realize that the last part need not be complimentary, and the former is an interesting game being played with percentages ("millions"/"planetary population"="diddly"). So, how'd you guys vote out a smart cookie like that?

Sounds like the park was brilliant, Bill. "Closed" until september, eh?
Ernst Bitterman  8
06-08-2004 08:45 PM ET (US)
Sorry, sorry. I'll shut up again soon. It just occurred to me that there's another point of agreement between the now-dormant Reagan and the grotesquely life-like G.W.B; They both pretended to be pilots during the defining armed conflict of their generation. Reagan just turned in a more public performance....
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  9
06-08-2004 09:22 PM ET (US)
Can someone smarter than me (which is pretty much anybody who posts to the comments) explain why the Phil Collins cell on my table is twice the size of the rest? Yes, to fit his big fat scary sweaty head, yes yes. Seriously, I don't see where I screwed up the code.
NegaduckPerson was signed in when posted  10
06-08-2004 11:22 PM ET (US)
It might be because of this entry: "PudgySweatyBaldyJerkistan!" If there was a space in there, it'd be able to break it and balance out the cell widths, but because it can't break that it forces the cell to be that wide.
Camilla  11
06-09-2004 11:11 AM ET (US)
LOVE the Byron pic, he looks like he passed out in the middle of a deranged tirade. I think he may be a lost litter (hyuk!) mate of Jacky's - when we got him from the pound he was sleeping in the cat box. Yes, that's right, nestled snugly among the poopies. Quel charmant, non? Really makes you want to just cuddle up with him. PHEW, STINKY KITTY! Fortunately he's given that up for a nice cozy bed and sparkling hygiene but still likes to go out each day after breakfast and do something (we know not what) that leaves him completely filthy and dirt-strewn from the belly down - I shudder to think. In addition, his favorite activities include biting, destruction of ALL paper (Hide your homework! Lock up your passport!), destruction of furniture, and running around all wild-eyed like a crazy ass fool motherfuck. Maybe we should start a playgroup! It might give KK a break anyway.

Uh huh, gotta go get me some'a them Golden Brown fries now - why not tanning lotion or Rotisserie chickens as long as they're selling stuff? Gaaah. There oughta be a law.
Camilla  12
06-09-2004 11:12 AM ET (US)
Oh shit I meant Golden Brown Freedom Fries.
*wail*
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  13
06-09-2004 05:56 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-09-2004 05:57 PM
"I think he may be a lost litter (hyuk!) mate of Jacky's - when we got him from the pound he was sleeping in the cat box. Yes, that's right, nestled snugly among the poopies."

Or a relative of Kill Kill's:

http://www.thoughtviper.com/images/new/kkchillin.jpg

I got her some boxes to lounge in after that.
Ernst Bitterman  14
06-09-2004 06:16 PM ET (US)
I'll let this go soon, but it's right there on the TV-- buncha marines standing around the flag-wrapped box one assumes contains an erstwhile "Great Communicator", and the band is playing "God Save the Queen".

Sometimes being from a Commonwealth nation and having you folks as neighbours is painfully surreal.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  15
06-10-2004 01:21 AM ET (US)
about Harry potter, which i just saw... There's a pic of the unusual ticket down at my journal. http://www.deadjournal.com/users/zefiel/

I dunno Bill, i'm glad you liked the first one. i'm all curious now at what you'll think of the third.

..too.. sleepy..
LavenderGray  16
06-10-2004 02:50 PM ET (US)
It's interesting you mention the Harry Potter, as I just watched the Chamber of Secrets for the first time yesterday. I think I was inspired to rent it by the Norm Speaks parody. I saw the Whatchamidoodle's Stone in theaters way back when and liked it, but not enough to see it twice. Chamber of Secrets was a dip in quality. It wasn't BAD, but the actors had a tendency to intone their lines flatly. Especially the young actors. And ESPECIALLY the guy who played Tom Riddle. I'm gonna see the third one this weekend. It's supposed to be the best. Much darker and funnier than the other two. I've also developed this weird thing which is almost a crush but not really (cuz I'm nearly 21 now, and ew) on Draco Malfoy.

Whoever writes the Potterstinks livejournal is an absolute genius.
http://www.livejournal.com/users/potterstinks/
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  17
06-10-2004 03:11 PM ET (US)
Zef:
They put your name on movie tickets? What for? Doesn't the monogramming tie up the line? Is that why the tickets are $22?

LaGrey:
"I've also developed this weird thing which is almost a crush but not really (cuz I'm nearly 21 now, and ew) on Draco Malfoy."

Yeah. Eww. That's sorta like McCauly Culkin and Michael Jackson if you think about it.
Zefiel  18
06-10-2004 06:43 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-10-2004 06:44 PM
The name's because i gots this 'frequent visitor card' with chip, and when they swipe it, it adds my name automatically. i supposedly get 1% of each purchase in the complex (tickets, snacks or coffee, tho mine are only from tickets 'cause i like to sneak my own, non-obscenely overpriced snacks) in 'points' and each point equals a peso. i have around 17 pesos now, so i'll be adding 5 to get my ticket for 'the punisher' come next wednesday. (though i was bad and paid $5 to buy and read the comic 'novelization') now, $22 here is around $2.2 in amerikan, and it's the price only in wednesdays. fridays and sats, the price goes up to $3.8, and the first showing is always $2.8, which is the price for card carrying elderlies too.

I sorta enjoyed the first one, but i got in the premiere for 'chamber' and i wished i hadn't. waaay too slow. i like this third one the best. I'm all torn now, because i've always been wanting movies to stick to the book (i had read 'the lost world' but not 'jurassic park' and thus i hated 'the lost world' movie, but not jurassic park, until i read the book) but now i have to support a movie that was good because it left behind a lot of things from the book.

"I've also developed this weird thing which is almost a crush but not really (cuz I'm nearly 21 now, and ew) on Draco Malfoy."

That's so not like me liking Ginny from the 2nd movie. *runs off to hide from angry mob*
Ernst Bitterman  19
06-10-2004 06:59 PM ET (US)
(i had read 'the lost world' but not 'jurassic park' and thus i hated 'the lost world' movie, but not jurassic park, until i read the book)
Holy Cats! I read the book soon after it came out, on the strength of liking JP as a book, and despite the movie. I remember putting the book down several times, and saying to the empty room, "Well, they can't make a worse movie." Fool!
Zefiel  20
06-10-2004 07:46 PM ET (US)
*thinks of cats with halos* i'm stealing 'Holy Cats!'. it's too good a phrase to not use it everyday. (yes, i'm so bored i came here to check if there were replies. also, i'm rereading Jurassic Park)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  21
06-10-2004 07:58 PM ET (US)
Zef, LaGrey, I'm with you on "Secrets." I didn't dislike it, but it was longer than it needed to be. That scene with the wand duels, did we really need 10 minutes of screen time to remind us that Harry speaks Snake? (Or, given what it meant to the plot, speaks "Herring," as in "Red") And there were, what, 5-6 times when "Harry gets accused of doing something he didn't"? Me, after the 1st time, I'd yell for help before I went fondling any more petrified people.
I also really didn't get the whole "Dobbie" subplot. He wants to save Harry, so he repeatedly tries to kill him. Who suggested that strategy, Rumsfeld?
End of message, keyboard under Byron attack!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  22
06-10-2004 08:07 PM ET (US)
And what was with Hagrid's standing ovation? The scene where he's arrested didn't have the emotional impact that would've justified it.

And the spider! "Hey, Hagrid, thanks for sending us to the giant spider that proved your innocence, assuming that the testimony of giant spiders stands up in court anyway. But wouldn't the point be kinda moot if we'd been EATEN THE FUCK UP after he told us?!"

The car was cool. Magic Car should star in the next movie!

Know what'll be the greatest movie ever?
GARFIELD!!!
OH BOY GARFELD U R SO FUNY!!!!!!!!!
Zefiel  23
06-10-2004 08:08 PM ET (US)
Well, in the book it was explained a little more clearly that he wanted him to hate the school/his friends and go back home. then he wanted to get him hurt, so he'd be sent back home.

Am i the only amused by the fact that the dinos are in the springfield (CT, i suppose?) museum? i kept looking for links to the Isis' sphere exibition but couldn't find any.

Those dino robots were a big breakthrough when i was 3. then i knew of them via a science magazine (i used to like them, before they got pricier and started having ortography mistakes.. i still buy NG when i can get the cash/i like the subject, like the one on 100 years of flight) and i think i got a hold of the developer's address somehow, or who knows how, but i had the gall to write a letter to them (all in red sharpie, i remember) asking them how much did one robo dino cost. i quote, "i'd like a T-Rex, but i'm willing to settle for a Triceratops". i forgot about the thing, until a letter arrived, from the developers (or the people who were showing them in mexico, more probably, as it was in spanish) saying politely no robo dinos were for sale. i got a very big kick out of it, though. i carried the letter everywhere, so i lost it soon.
Zefiel  24
06-10-2004 08:18 PM ET (US)
"But why doesn't Karl Rove just stick a fucking X-10 wireless camera in the coffin and start a site of streaming video of Ronnie rotting away? Decomposa-Cam!"

Actually, there's a site like that. they have like 3 people on 'contract' and one actual cam working. (it didn't seem to work when i saw it) i think the site is coffin cam, or something. (sorry, posting and reading update at same time)
LavenderGray  25
06-10-2004 09:49 PM ET (US)
I think Secrets suffered from being made out of a bigger book. Everything got squished down to the bare bones. It makes me worry about future movies. The Philosophy of Post-Modernism's Stone was about 200 hundred pages. The Order of the Phoenix, the fifth book, is well over 500 pages, which means they're going to have to start cutting big stuff out. Hopefully beginning with Quidditch.

I also worry about the fact that Draco has lost his hideous hair grease, making him even MORE adorable than he was before.
Ernst Bitterman  26
06-10-2004 10:23 PM ET (US)
Perhaps Byron is smarter than you think, and keeps checking the box wondered how one could possibly compress a chubby Panthera Leo into a box that size.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  27
06-10-2004 10:49 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-10-2004 10:52 PM
I was just going for a cheap larf with the "Byron in a box" bit.

I think he's extremely smart, especially given how he's gone through life without a cat's greatest sense, hearing. He sure fooled me and an entire veterinary clinic long enough.

Or maybe he was going in the box for a beer?

AH-HAHAHA! His ears must be burning, as he just decided NOW to go stick his head in the Lion Stout box again! And wrestle it around the floor! With it on his HEAD! AHHAHAHA!
I LOVE MY KIDS!!!
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  28
06-10-2004 11:07 PM ET (US)
"AH-HAHAHA! His ears must be burning, as he just decided NOW to go stick his head in the Lion Stout box again! And wrestle it around the floor! With it on his HEAD! AHHAHAHA!
I LOVE MY KIDS!!!"

Y'know, Bill, i don't know if there's an equivalent expression there, but here we call that 'eating bread in front of the hungry'
M3  29
06-11-2004 02:35 AM ET (US)
*sigh* I don't care what Reagan did or didn't do with his life, the fact is he spent the last many years in a total fog, not even able to recognize his wife and kids, constantly unhappy and uncomfortable, with moments of clarity where he realizes that he's not supposed to be shitting himself and that the woman beside him really is his wife so he can stop crying and asking for her. And they had to remind him to lift his foot to get onto or off of the couch or in or out of the wheelchair, and tried to keep him moving so he didn't get pressure sores, and the smile he managed when he had ice cream because it was sweet and cold. And even though he's not suffering anymore, having him there with her even in his state is still better than being without him.
M3  30
06-11-2004 03:25 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-11-2004 03:25 AM
Oh. My. God.

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v246/mattiekitty/mitts.jpg

There's a whole LJ comm devoted to kittypix. Called... "kittypix". Didn't see that comin', huh?
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  31
06-11-2004 12:43 PM ET (US)
that's a very small woman. and bed.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  32
06-11-2004 07:04 PM ET (US)
M3:
Well put. If the Media pointed out more of that, rather than just making shit up, maybe Bush Jr might be politically embarassed enough (I've seen no indication that he's capable of doing anything out of empathy) to allow stem cell research again.
But he wouldn't try to ease the suffering of the dying, if it might lose him a few votes from the Fundies. We all have our priorities, I guess.
LavenderGray  33
06-11-2004 07:58 PM ET (US)
Zef: Also an extremely fat cat.
Actually, cats always look fatter when they're flopped out on their back. I'm not sure why that is.
Ernst Bitterman  34
06-11-2004 10:29 PM ET (US)
Back-laid cats look fatter because of the way their arms unhinge, and because of the slight flattening effect of world-weariness which overtakes then when a foolish ape puts them wrong way up.

One wonders how safe the world's infants would be if stem-cells were a low-cost source of petroleum....
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  35
06-12-2004 12:09 AM ET (US)
The new harry potter needed more Gary Oldman and more Ginny.

Didja see, Bill, when he goes to the village and enters via a candy store's basement? in the very first shot, as the floor's opening, you can see mexican candy skulls. Cuaron couldn't resist the temptation, i guess.

Has anyone noticed a pattern in recent hero flicks when the last shot is the hero rushing to the viewer/screen? far as i can tell, it happened in Spiderman, (with the amerikan flag in background, oh yesh) Daredevil, Maybe hulk, and now Harry potter. ish odd.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  36
06-12-2004 01:00 AM ET (US)
Zef:
I thought that it was odd that Ginny was the only Weasley that didn't get named. I was expecting that Harry would say "Hi, Ginny!" as he walked past.
Yes, I caught the skulls! Day of the Dead candy, si? Fits in with the cheerful morbidity the series frequently showcases.
Did you notice in that same scene, that invisibility cloaks only allow the footprints of the wearer to be seen in the snow? You'd think with dozens of others around, the snow would be completely trampled flat.
I took the end-whooshing to be the opposite of the soul-sucking of the Dementors. Same effect, different direction and emotion.

Current entertainment: The Kids harassing a flying ant in the kitchen.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  37
06-12-2004 01:14 AM ET (US)
I kinda didn't like the soul sucking effect. thought it was a bit overdone, but then, it helps explain the point easier, so it's good. I missed the snow, but for the same reason you say no one catches Indy clinging to a sub for a long while. and i guess it wouldn't be much fun to just look at the trampled snow as we 'follow'.

Ya, it's day of the dead candy. (tho it's rarely eaten, since it's made of pure, evil sugar) the classic, now scarse ones have a label on their forehead with a name, and you can pick one with a name to give to people. (i don't think they have 'William', so, sorry, Bill..) Also, now they're being replaced with evil hollow chocolate ones. meh.
Ernst Bitterman  38
06-12-2004 06:24 PM ET (US)
As a Canadian, and long-time konosewer of snow, I think I can shed some light: Magic English Pneumatic Snow.

Hain't seen the movie yet, but I expect it couldn't have enough Oldman in it. He's keen.
LavenderGray  39
06-12-2004 07:17 PM ET (US)
Went to a wedding today. It was a very very Southern Baptist affair. The highlight of the afternoon was when two girls, about 7 and 8, announced that one day they were going to get married.
Marc  40
06-12-2004 09:54 PM ET (US)
That Manos sign is comical - First glance it looked like Dan Hill Road, not Dart Hill road...that'd make it Hell for sure.

The cat pics are quite cute...is Byron ever getting big!
LavenderGray  41
06-13-2004 12:14 AM ET (US)
Saw da moobie.
Wow. Just...wow.
I'd heard it was "darker and funnier," but that doesn't even begin to describe. It's like a whole different species.
It’s interesting. Movies 1 and 2 had airtight plotting, Azkaban has several plot holes. 1 and 2 were technical perfection, Azkaban has uneven pacing, and sometimes you can’t tell what people are saying or what’s going on. Yet this is the first one that inspires me to go and see it again.
Hee. Boys at that age are so awkward. It’s like the Puberty Fairy descends from castle Maturia and waves her Hormone Wand, transforming them from human children into strange, alien creatures consisting entirely of giant limbs and warbly voices.
The Draco crush has dried up. Movie 2 Draco was a sneering bad-ass, and this new guy is just a dork. I am both upset and relieved.
The half a dozen subplots all at once was confusing, and cool as hell. I wish I had that kind of imagination. The novel I'm working on has merely one plot, no sub. Woe is I.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  42
06-13-2004 03:23 AM ET (US)
I took that "Manos" pic at great personal risk. I stashed the car in a nearby public park and walked, expecting no one to be home on a weekday afternoon. But as I walked up, Mr Manos himself came out! He used his Hands of Fate to open his mailbox, then turned and went back, chatting on his cell phone. I was *that close* to ending up chained to a pole in a white dress!
Moral of the story: talk on a cell phone and you won't notice people photgraphing your sign. Let that be a warning to us all!
Rabbit  43
06-13-2004 01:23 PM ET (US)
Y'know, if you guys like the HP movies, you'll love the books. *nudge nudge*

Dammit Bill, now I'm always going to think of you when watch Manos. If I had photoshop I'd make a pic of it. For now, we'll just have to settle for the disturbing mental image.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  44
06-13-2004 02:31 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-13-2004 03:22 PM
Hey, kids! Let's GONTERCIZE!

Today's subject: The last 2 weeks of Baka Breakers, starting here:
http://livewire.keenspace.com/d/20040528.html
(Opens in new window, so you can follow along)

It's our new character, Nissan Maxima! She's Japanese and speaks in "Broken English." Part of her D&D chracter sheet says: "Despite her inherit cool head--a trait on her nationality..." Yes, and Davey's dissing someone else's ability to speak English.

Next slide, please.
"Adam's Girl from Kyoto" is the title, just in case anyone forgets for even a second that this strip is all about Davey's avatar and no one else.
OH NO! A huge army of artichokes is about to attack that...What the hell is that, anyway?

Next:
Apparently, it's a Playmobil set. Trust Davey to draw a train like it's the short bus. Write what ya know, I guess.

Scariest thought is that the last 2 strips were drawn of real locations. You get a real sense of "being there," hmm?

Next:
Feet.

Next:
Whoa! Now we see the importance of the feet: they're huge! Compare them to her head. Byron gasps in shock!

Nissan travels very light. That tiny briefcase thing holds everything she needs from Japan, possibly a toothbrush, some sock glue and a Hello Kitty vibrator. Maybe it's a bento box. But where'd she fit her Mandatory Fur Suit?

"Tarea-San"?

Next:
Genuine broken English: "I'd say!" Next she'll say "This place is the bee's knees! Grody to the max! DY-NO-MIIITE!"

"Roberta-San"? Wasn't she Tarea-San 1 second ago? And I'm no Japaenese linguist, but isn't "-san" a male suffix?

"Buildins" and "Right across street": The problem with a Daveykins character speaking "broken English" is that there's no way to tell what's intentional and what're the default typos.

Next:
See? "Comming"! You know that's Davey. As to the rest, apparently he's using the time-honored rascist writing trick of having foreigners speak perfect English, except that they drop modifiers (sorry, I meant definite articles. Hey, it's not like I was an English major or somethin'!). And where've we seen that trick before? Super Green Beret! Davey learns from the Masters!

So far, the entire population of Craphole, Nevada, appears to be the people who work at Baka Breakers. Even the train had no conductor. Who are they selling to?

Is "Rakki!" really a Japanese word, or is she supposed to be mispronouncing "lucky"? And what's so damn lucky about having a lawn sprouting tiny Don King hairdos?

In conclusion: Another 2 weeks, and nothing has happened.

But things will get better: Davey's blog (http://foxfirestudios.us/blog/index.html) says "I will mention Jesus in a positive light including having Him do walk-on roles in my stories."
Jesus is surely looking forward to that.
LavenderGray  45
06-13-2004 04:08 PM ET (US)
A few other things that occurred to me:
I seem to have been right about less Quidditch.
If I were a professor, I would totally be teaching class the same way Snape does.
Did the scene about Lupin leaving seem like a double entendre to anyone else? I’d swear it was intentional, but I’m the only one I know who noticed it.
Sir Giggles von Laffsalot  46
06-13-2004 04:21 PM ET (US)
(Okay, it's just Lilly, masquerading as Crow. I go with whatever pseudonym occurs to me at the time.)

Before I actually read anything here on the board, there are News items to which I am compelled to respond!

1. I own the Rutles album in both vinyl and CD formats. (My favorite song to twist to: "Number One." My favorite song to sing extemporaneously a capella: "Another Day." And don't think I won't do it!) Kudos to Neil Innes for being the only guy I know of besides Ric Ocasek for using the word, "pusillanimous" in song lyrics.

Speaking of, I must have a quick sidebar with the Zefster: tonight Letty is singing an ABBA song that I can sing *much* better, which is all the more reason why she's outie. Unless of course it's Cesar. ::sniff:: (For the rest of you, this is just re: La Academia, the Mexican version of American Idol. Go Israel! Go Israel! ::drool::)

Ahem. Back to your regularly scheduled notes without so much rat in them--now, female hormones, that may be another matter...

2. I have something like six Young Ones eps on tape, three of which date from when neil hosted a "marathon" on MTV circa 1985. Yeah, that's not a tape I break out too often, especially since my brand-new vcr has been spitting out most of my Summer 1995 MST3K Countdown tapes lately. Still, it also has other MTV videos from that era; anyone remember Wa Wa Nee and "Sugar Free"? Heh. Figured I was the only one who did.

3. My question re: the Harry Potter movies is, don't you need to read the books first, or is that overly pedantic of me? (The answer can be yes to both questions.) See, I just finished watching the DVD of #2 last night but haven't read #3 yet, so I'm compelled to wait until the library has it in before I see the movie. (Only ephemerally related to this, but the source of my infinite shame, is the fact that I was reading a British novel yesterday and realized I was subconsciously imagining the hero looking like a GROWN-UP Daniel Racliffe. I'm suitably appalled at myself.)

4. Embarrassing as it is to recall, I was once scared by a robot dinosaur. To my credit, however, all the other models there at Lawrence Livermore Lab had been totally stationary, so when the brontosaurus lifted his head and brayed at me, I jumped about a foot.
Sir Giggles von Ya Know  47
06-13-2004 04:42 PM ET (US)
Lav dahlink, it's okay about your (now-lapsed) Draco fixation. I was fairly appreciative of the eye candy in HP2 myself, between the elder Malfoy and Tom Riddle (though it's making me nuts trying to remember what else I've seen Jason Isaacs in. Gotta hit IMDB next). The toxic bleach fumes would be driving you away soon enough, much like I tend to think when watching La Academia--only Zef will get this, sorry--and look at that one blonde dancer guy: "I can't quite trust a man who spends more time on his hair than I do."

And for the rest of you...man, you're lucky I don't really mind spoilers. ::grumble::

If I remain non-blissfully unemployed I may have a chance to go with my dad to his hometown of Ely, Nevada in the first week of July. Maybe then I can find out where Craphole is, though I'm guessing it's close to Pahrump (look it up if you don't believe me).
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  48
06-13-2004 05:11 PM ET (US)
Lilly:
No, you don't need to read the books. I haven't read any of them, and I knew what was going on. It wouldn't hurt to see the other movies first, but I don't consider even that a necessity. And we haven't given away any spoilers. That's Ebert's job!

I'm planning on buying the Rutles CD (I have the vinyl, but the CD has more songs). I loved listeneing to that in the day. Funny, most Beatles fans--even the true, worshipful purists--that I've exposed to the Rutles like them, too. Those are some damn catchy songs, and also have that Beatlesque way of sounding profound without really being that.

Man and Machine,
Keep yourself clean,
Or be a has-been
Like the Dinosaur.

Man and Device,
For everything nice,
You'd better think twice--
Or at least once more.
Sir Giggles von1morething  49
06-13-2004 05:12 PM ET (US)
This'll go in my LJ too, but it made me laugh, so I thought I'd pass it along. On Friday night I found myself inadvertently babysitting four little girls (two neighbors, and their two friends), and when I saw the HP2 DVD I went out to the living room to ask them...

"Who thinks Harry is cute?"
(All four hands shot up)

"Who thinks Ron is cute?"
(Two hands)

"Who thinks Malfoy is cute?"
(Four hands rise, albeit slowly)

"Who thinks Professor Snape is cute?"
(Four ear-piercing simultaneous shrieks of horror)

Man. It's tough going for those of us who have had a crush on Alan Rickman since Die Hard... :)
Mimi  50
06-13-2004 06:57 PM ET (US)
Fellow Gontie-nut checking in, so no, you didn't waste your time typing that out ;)
1) -san is a general all-purpose respectful name suffix. -kun is used mostly by and in reference to guys, but in a more familiar setting. Using -san is like saying Mr or Miss, so it's not inappropriate
2) No, "Rakki" is not a Japanese word - it's the closest pronounciation the Japanese can manage to 'lucky'. Classic japlish. Which again, I doubt an intelligent Japanese woman would use. A ditzy teen, yes...

Nevertheless, I'm trembling in anticipation of more bad fanboy Japanese.... Everything Gontie Learned About Japanese, he Learned from Sailor Moon.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  51
06-13-2004 11:53 PM ET (US)
Well, my opinion was that to read the books AND watch the movies (but you could do either ok on its own) you had to be a real HP nut, since with HP2 i got sooooo bored from knowing what was going to happen without fail and such. but HP3 changes everything. This time now it's more like reading a manga, and then watching the anime (or backwards, sometimes it happens) (manga=japanese comic, anime=japanese cartoons, if anyone didn't know..)because the changes between those are often great, but respect the whole essence of the story properly. (an example i like is world-famous Neon Genesis Evangelion, the anime came first, and was a huge hit, and when the manga came, they gave the autor total freedom of the story, and he made it good too.)

*anime wannabe nut rant over*

"Did the scene about Lupin leaving seem like a double entendre to anyone else? I’d swear it was intentional, but I’m the only one I know who noticed it."

Sorry.. first you have to explain to me the concept of double entendre. sorry, sorry. *hides*
Rabbit  52
06-14-2004 01:16 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-14-2004 01:17 AM
Bill: Thanks for the Gonter-summary. It's good to know I'm not the only one still reading his crap. I've been checking his site obsessively the past couple of weeks and I still can't tell what the fuck is going on. Somebody needs to explain to Gonty that it takes more to hook your readers than showing a pair of feet every couple of days.

Zef: The HP movies are a lot like reading manga and watching anime. Two separate entities, but they both complement each other. And when you mentioned Lupin, I automatically thought of Lupin III. >_< Read the books, they're really fun and at least then you can say you read them.

Lavender: If you stick around HP/anime/LOTR/any fandom long enough, everything starts to sound like double entendre.

Giggles: I think Jason Isaacs was also in Peter Pan. He was the father and Captain Hook. And I love Alan Rickman too. Him+Gary Oldman in the same movie=happy me.
M3  53
06-14-2004 01:22 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-14-2004 01:27 AM
I laff so hard.

Davey's blog says "I will mention Jesus in a positive light including having Him do walk-on roles in my stories."
Jesus is surely looking forward to that.


Every badly done comic needs yet more cameos of "celebrities" telling Davey how great he is. Stan Lee just wasn't enough.

Edit. Just read the latest on the cats. Very cute. You should consider writing a book or something. At the very least, coasters. What better place to pimp them than at work!
LavenderGray  54
06-14-2004 02:37 AM ET (US)
"Lavender: If you stick around HP/anime/LOTR/any fandom long enough, everything starts to sound like double entendre."

Yeah, but I think this one is for real. In the scene I'm refering to, it sounds like Lupin is talking about leaving because everyone knows he's gay. It's not overt or anything, but if I hadn't seen the rest of the movie, I'd automatically assume that's what was going on.
Damnit, I want someone else to say they noticed this. I don't want this to be another Utena, where I'm the only one in the universe who sees it.
NegaduckPerson was signed in when posted  55
06-14-2004 08:11 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-14-2004 08:12 AM
Splutty -

Bakabreakers. ARRGH. My brain hurts. It's amazing - most poeple, when they draw as much as Gonty does, show *some* improvement over time. I look at this crap, and it looks like the earliest stuff I have (SMUSA/STH:TMC). Arrgh.

"-san" can be used for men or women. It's a respectful suffix. As for "rakki", that is an in-use Japanese phoneticization of "lucky." (We know the situation for L and R, and there's no sound in the japanese syllabery that corresponds with the "uh" in that word.) However, how much sense does it make for a character who speaks such fluent English suddenly drop a Japanese-altered version of an English word? "Hey, remember, she's Japanese, and I can't draw well enough to indicate that visually!"

Besides, I think that in that situation she'd be more likely to say "Sugoi."
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  56
06-14-2004 09:56 AM ET (US)
Um, Rabbit, i've read the books. all five of them. (and a HUGE fanfiction that i found on the net standing as the book five) Okay, i'm in mexico, but that doesn't mean automatically i read half a book a year like it's the average statistic here.

Oh, so that's what it means. It'd certainly look like that out of context. but i mean, c'mon, as the world is these days, a teacher like lupin (no spoilers!) has more chances of getting a good job than a gay one, so i guess the scene has to look that way.
Rabbit  57
06-14-2004 01:30 PM ET (US)
Er, sorry Zefiel, I wasn't aiming that comment at you. Didn't mean to imply that you were some illiterate moron. Yeesh, half a book a year in Mexico is probably more than people in the good ole US read. A friend of mine was telling me the other day that her grandmother had only read one book in her entire life.
"The Bible," asked another friend.
"God no," she replied. "Danielle Steele."

Sorry, LavenderGray, I don't see it. Lupin's whole deal is, um, a spoiler. But if you seen the movie you know what I'm talking about. He's talking about how parents will never let their kid be taught by a *spoiler*. There are some obvious parallels to racism and homophobia, but I don't think they specifically intended to say that Lupin was gay.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  58
06-14-2004 04:45 PM ET (US)
Rabbit:
"Somebody needs to explain to Gonty that it takes more to hook your readers than showing a pair of feet every couple of days."

Somebody needs to explain the difference between the pacing of a 3-panel strip and an 80-page manga. Although this would also plod if it was 80 pages. NOTHING has happened. Gonty makes Proust look like a Mountain Dew ad.

Speaking of which, remember the Dew/Latte drink? The homage to "Dogulas" Adams? It's becoming clear that he just started this with no idea of a plot or what it's supposed to be. He needs to switch back to his old, angry meds.

It reminds me of another crappy artist--Me, age 8. I drew a comic book about the adventures of Richard the Fish (he was a fish). There was always a part where Richard would get shot with a "freeze ray" that left him in a big block of ice, and it'd take TWO PAGES for him to defrost and be able to swim again. Because I liked drawing melting ice. That's what "Livewire Latte" is like. Watching ice melt.

M3:
Knowing Daveykins, Jesus is the only step up from Stan Lee he can imagine.

ADAM CRACKHEAD: Iv'e spiled my latte on my jeans!
(SOUND EFFECT: PANTS BURN!!)
AC: OW!! JESUS CHRIST!
(SF: MAGIC CLOUD POOF!)
JESUS: You rang?
AC: HOLY SHOTZ! ITS JESUS! Would you like a Mountain Dew?
J: Wow Adam how did you know the Son of GOD drinks your same favorite breverage!
AC: HA HA! Jesus, you are the kewlest! We'll be best friends! Here, put on this robotic gerbil suit!
(SF: HOLD UP GERBIL SUIT!!)
J: No thanks. I actually came here to show you how your years of being the Net's Most Dangerous Hack Cartoonist have inspired Me!
AC: HOLY SHOTZ! Did you write a new Comandment, one that says "Blessed are the Hacks, for they shall inherent the Throne of Roy Disney? For the Magic Kindgom, the Power and the Glory are Davey's, now and 4ever"?
J: No. And those were the Beatitudes anyway, genius. It inspired me to draw this picture.
(HAND PICTURE!!!)
AC: But...This is a picture of You. As a baby. Crying.
J: You nailed that one, smartypants.
AC: HAHA! "NAILED"! Like in " The Passion of the You"! Wait--are you saying I make Baby Jesus cry? They must be tears of joy!
MYSTERIOUS VOICE: Face Front, True Believer!
AC: HOLY SHOTZ! Its STAN LEE!
J: Hi, Stan.
SL: Hi, Jeez. Why're you hanging with this loser? And what's so holy about Shotz?
J: There's Sy Schotz. He has that really nice deli in Heaven. The pastrami on rye is to die for!
AC: HAHA! It's funny cuase your DEAD!
J: Look--you make Baby Jesus cry, and you make Adult Jesus want to beat you with His crucifix!
SONIC the HEDGEHOG: This is as pointless as Livewire Latte, isn't it?
SAILOR MOON: Tee Hee! I think he's cute! Jesus, I mean. Who's the creepy guy with the Magic cards?
(SF: STUPID STORY EXPLODES!!!)
LavenderGray  59
06-14-2004 05:21 PM ET (US)
Well, all I'm saying is, if it was intended as a sneaky bit of social commentary, then it was very well done.
Mimi  60
06-14-2004 08:56 PM ET (US)
Livewire Latte: Plot summary
Chapter 1: Adam drinks coffee, Johnny thinks he's Ford Prefect, paraphrasing slabs of HHGttG. Nothing happens.
Chapter 2: Something ALMOST happens. Turns out to be Adam's delivery of Penguin mints. He explains his varous quirky eccentricities. Omnipresent fox-girl shows up. Nothing happens.
Chapter 3: Token Japanese girl shows up. Nothing happens.

on the edge of my seat here, folks...
Rabbit  61
06-14-2004 09:45 PM ET (US)
AC: But...This is a picture of You. As a baby. Crying.
J: You nailed that one, smartypants.


Thank you, that made my day just that much brighter. Youse a funny guy, Mr. Splut.

I'm glad you mentioned the manga thing. There was something there I couldn't quite put my finger on. Though I think that this comic would suck even if he did understand the pacing of three-panel strips.

I haven't read Hitchhiker's Guide (because I am a bad person), so maybe if do Livewire Latte will suddenly take on some great and profound meaning. Though I seriously doubt it. I propose that we all start flaming Gonty-kins so that he'll go back to making violent, angry comics and threatening to roboticize us.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  62
06-15-2004 02:52 AM ET (US)
Negs:
What does "sugoi" mean? I Googled, but it's all untranslated Japanese sites or "Moisture-wicking TechniFine fabric" Canadian bike shorts.

From the context of the strip, I think she's saying "Yeah...nice double-wide."
NegaduckPerson was signed in when posted  63
06-15-2004 09:20 AM ET (US)
Sugoi: (adj) terrible, dreadful, terrific, amazing, great, wonderful, to a great extent.

It's generally used like "Great!" or "Cool!"
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  64
06-15-2004 09:21 AM ET (US)
Japanese is a very context sensitive language, it's like speaking with silly putty as a lot of stuff is inferred. hence, i don't fear much that i'm wrong when i tell you that sugoi can mean 'sweet'.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  65
06-15-2004 09:22 AM ET (US)
wow. one minute apart.
Ernst Bitterman  66
06-15-2004 01:17 PM ET (US)
Man, I've known this site is a hotbed of Gonterrhea, but this is a serious flare-up. Must be a penicillin-resistant strain this time... errr... can't resist crappy fan-boy Japanese... Fursuit ga totemo suteki desu-- Iie, jodan, yo!
Marc  67
06-15-2004 05:22 PM ET (US)
Poor, poor Gonterman...I've read his "comics" over the past several years and after seeing what I saw I've come to the conclusion his artwork has probably gotten worse. I had no idea what the train station was supposed to be - it looked like some Escher-like drawing gone seriously wrong.

If he has anything it's chutzpah to keep plugging away...

The byline at the bottom of the pages say copyright David Gonterman and Associates - he has someone helping him?
Mimi  68
06-15-2004 06:21 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-15-2004 06:21 PM
Whether his 'associates' include this 'Drew Rhine' whom he attributes his female Mouse 'Sue Traveller' too...
I googled her, she DOES exist and isn't just another of Davey's pseudonyms. She writes Zoot fursuit fanfiction. Figures ;p

By far my favourite wing of Gonterphilia is when he starts ranting about Disney. Easily his most shining recent example of egotistical idiocy was to plug Johnny Briz as the new Mickey. T-shirt design and all! Priceless.
Mimi  69
06-15-2004 06:23 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-15-2004 06:26 PM
You may think I have a filthy, filthy mind, but when I check the main Foxfire site (the one that Bakabreakers/Livewire Latte is hosted on), there's a banner ad for Mountain Dew where the bottle looks like the head of a phallus if you look at it kind of peripherally. And it's pointed right at Supposed-Japanese-Girl..... ^_^;;

edit: Oh. This clinches it: from his sketchbook:
http://foxfirestudios.us/4images/details.php?image_id=23
...the CROTCH-SLOTS!!!!
Zefiel  70
06-15-2004 06:46 PM ET (US)
Argh! late, late! I'm sorry. this was done late, late last night, and would've been posted then (hence giving me an alibi [i was insane from sleep deprivation! i didn't knew what i was doing!]) but nooo, photohosting service had to be down. anyway, luckily Gontermania still rages on, so i'm not out of context.

http://img66.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Z...hotoshops/Gont1.gif

at first i was going to make a giant image (this one's big enough already) with all the dialog, but i've decided to do one part a day. or stop, if there's enough outrage.

At first i was being very careful and all, then i got annoyed and thought 'sod this, even if it looks terrible, he's done worse things'. you be the judge.
Mimi  71
06-15-2004 08:15 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-15-2004 08:16 PM
ROFLM-sodding-AO

That is brilliant, Zefiel!
"Hold up gerbil suit"...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!.....

(btw I feel your pain, Z. I couldn't upload a new batch of icons last night because photobucket brainfarted, too...)
Zefiel  72
06-15-2004 08:31 PM ET (US)
Well, if you scroll a few pages of messages back, you'll see Bill's wrotten the 'script'. perhaps he'd like to write more if i ever finish this one. I like particularly 'PANTS BURN!'

I'm not mad at photobucket. i can't donate to them, but they do an awesome job for free, and i think it's the only time it's ever happened.

It depressed me a little to see that i had to actually put some effort to get it to look at least a bit like gonterman's (because it makes me realize that i'm probably a worse artist than he is), but i think they turnt out better when i just didn't care a lot. maybe that's how he works.
Rabbit  73
06-15-2004 08:33 PM ET (US)
Zefiel, that was awesome. I'm snagging it for my own personal Gonter-collection. Can't wait for the next one. The sad thing is, you probably dashed that out like nothing, whereas GonterMan labors over each picture and it still looks like he shit it out.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  74
06-15-2004 08:51 PM ET (US)
WOOOOOOO!!!!! Zef, you ROCK!

The reason the story ended with an explosion was because I ran out of ideas. Maybe I'll continue, given your excellent rendition of the Gonterstyle!
Mimi  75
06-15-2004 11:18 PM ET (US)
Whoo, MORE, Bill!
We get enough of them, maybe they can go on Sisto Files?

Hey, Bill, you say your japanese is kind of vague? Then you're perfectly qualified to write Gontie-Japanese ;)

And don't forget the phrack ;)
Lilly von Albatrotskii  76
06-16-2004 06:07 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-16-2004 06:31 PM
Speaking of mini-mental exams, when I sat down at the library kompyuter just now, *this* had been left on the screen by the previous user.

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/v/intro2.htm#davem

I had to share that with the nice library lady (not Rory Cochrane Boy--he's not here today, though Kind-Geeky-Boy-Who-Also-Likes-Hockey is) and she agreed with my comment that in this day and age, it's a shame that so many schizophrenics are still trying to live without adequate meds.

Hey, didn't Sy Schotz own the brewery where Laverne and Shirley worked? Every time I went into the bottling section of Gallo, I had a heckuva time *not* singing, "And we'll do it our way, yes our way..." (Then they'd throw me out before I could ever find a glove.)

Bill, when I read the tale of Byron's Towel Torment I got tears in my eyes, I was laughing so hard. I put that right up there with the Hall of Horrible Heads as another element of your magnum opus. (Wish I had a cute cat story with which I could retaliate, but right now I gots nada, other than Ms. Fetisova waking me up at a quarter to five this morning so she could get pets...)

And your Zefstericiousness, you are *already* a far better artist than Gonty; first of all, we know and like you, and second, you are clearly capable of self-awareness. Oh, and you also know a hack when you see one. =)
Zefiel  77
06-16-2004 06:35 PM ET (US)
Sorry Sorry, today's part of Bill's story will be late. last night power was going in and out, and at the third time it went off and i lost the progress on the drawing, i went to bed, and then i had to go to school, and i'm just here, at work, where i can't really draw such things without raising concern. thank you all for teh wonderful feedback!
LavenderGray  78
06-16-2004 11:00 PM ET (US)
Give the kids a butt scratch for me!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  79
06-16-2004 11:26 PM ET (US)
Zef:
Take your time. I really have no idea where to go with the Daveykins "story." Which means that I prly won't. If anybody else wants to jump in, or give a plot suggestion, feel free.

And the Master Himself has updated. Quick observations: What the PHRACK is with Roberta-san's mouth in panel 2?! Fangs? Drool?
I don't know why, but that right panel makes me want to play "Populous" again.

Next strip: The "Hightlight to my day" is not a fucking woodchuck creaming in my coffee. Even if my coffee seems to be the burning gates of Hell.
Mimi  80
06-17-2004 12:11 AM ET (US)
Gontie discovers Commodore64-Cam 9_9
Rabbit  81
06-17-2004 01:22 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-17-2004 01:25 AM
Happy B-day, Byron and KK!!!

Um, I'm a dork, so I made some LJ-sized GonterGifs. First time I've tried it, so they're pretty crappy.

First try...
...and the second one.
LavenderGray  82
06-17-2004 01:36 AM ET (US)
Rabbit: Cool gifs. My only criticism would be that the text is a little hard to read. Maybe if the words were white and outlined?
NegaduckPerson was signed in when posted  83
06-17-2004 07:53 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-17-2004 07:55 AM
Populous. Now there's a game I loved! Well, up until the Other God started volcanoting and swamping my followers while I still only had the power to raise and lower single squares of land. Arrgh.

Why is one character in Gonty's comic speaking in all caps and the other in mixed caps? And why does it look like the eyes of one character have been swapped left-for-right? What is the secret of the yeti? Do you know the Muffin Man?

Byron's a year old? I couldn't believe it for a moment. It seems like you just adopted him! And I remember very clearly when you adopted Kill Kill - that's how long I've been regularly geading your blog, Thoughtty. Say, as a cat person, do you have a book called "Cat's Kingdom"?
Camilla  84
06-17-2004 08:42 AM ET (US)
Ohh man those kitty pics are gorgeous. HBD KK&B!
Ernst Bitterman  85
06-17-2004 09:30 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-17-2004 09:30 AM
Omedeto o tanjobi!
<screechy needle-across-record noise>
Stupid fanboyness... What I meant, of course, in proper Canadian:
Hertelijk Gebortsdag, Katjes!
Kiru Banzai  86
06-17-2004 09:57 AM ET (US)
wow, five years of Kill Kill...happy Day, Bill and Byron and KK!
Mimi  87
06-17-2004 03:20 PM ET (US)
I will never get tired of that photo of L'il Toemaster B chowing down on that squishy mouse.
"Can't talk... maiming."
Rabbit  88
06-17-2004 05:40 PM ET (US)
LavenderGray: Thank you! :) Fonts have been a pain in the ass for me, especially since I'm using Gimp. I'll try your suggestion, it sounds like it would help.

Negaduck: Volcanoting is the coolest word ever.

Bill: Those kitty pictures are adorable. They send me into fits of squee-age. Can't believe Byron's already a year old. It seems like just yesterday you were putting up pics of him as an itty widdle fwuffball.
LavenderGray  89
06-17-2004 11:08 PM ET (US)
HA! VINDICATION! I did find someone else who noticed the parallel in the Lupin scene! Of course, she did me one better by pointing out that Draco, Crabbe, and Goyle are all wearing matching rings. She postulates that they are either Voldemort's Youth signets or Best Friends Forever charms. What do you think?
Rabbit  90
06-17-2004 11:15 PM ET (US)
I see the parallel, I just don't think they intended Lupin to be "gay." JKR has said (if I recall correctly) that she intended his situation to be a reference to racism. I guess homophobia would fit with that too. I'm not saying he's not gay, just that his (or anyone else's) sexuality has never been specified.

Ooo, I didn't notice the ring thing. That's nifty. I put my money on Super Duper Best Friends Club rings. :)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  91
06-17-2004 11:49 PM ET (US)
The katjes send thanks for all the birthday messages! Well, not really, but they would if they could. Not that their mutual b-day is really all that exceptional from their POV. It's always a great day to be a cat in this household.

Negs:
"do you have a book called "Cat's Kingdom"?"
No. What is it?

Rabbit:
Cool icons! M3's big on those; she prly has some pointers.

Is the 1st one from NiTRO? I'd buy a Davey shirt that had "YOU DARE QUESTION MY GRAPEFRUITS?!" on it (and "PHRACK YOU!" on the back). But nooo, he only offers that lame "Support Disney with my shirt that's MY character that I ripped off from Bluth so it's not actually mine and you're really not supporting Disney anyway" shirt. Exactly how clueless is he, anyway?
LavenderGray  92
06-18-2004 12:49 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-18-2004 01:02 AM
Rabbit: No, no, no, no, no. That's not what I meant. I don't think he's gay either. I mean, just look at the porno mustache. What self-respecting gay man would wear one of those? It's just a parallel.
Rabbit  93
06-18-2004 01:13 AM ET (US)
Lavender: Yeah, I agree. I think I've just been looking at too much HP fandom lately. >_< Crazy, crazy people. Although, Lupin and Sirius were awfully touchy-feely there towards the end.

Bill: Thank you! Yes, that is from NiTRO. The grapefruits line was my other choice, but it seemed like a lot of text. I would totally buy that T-shirt. "Clinton jobs" is another great line from that one. If by "great" you mean "wrong on so very many levels."
NegaduckPerson was signed in when posted  94
06-18-2004 08:00 AM ET (US)
Bill -

"Cat's Kingdom" is a book about a cattery in Japan. The writer is an English speaking person who moved to Japan, so the book isn't a poor translation. It's all about the personalities of the cats in the cattery, their behavior and interactions, and the way they managed the cattery. It's really fascinating stuff. You get to know the personalities of a good number of the cats. From the way you talk about yours, I really think you'd enjoy it.

It's out of print (published in 1985), but some of Amazon's associated sellers have it for way cheap.

Re T-shirts - I want a shirt with my favorite line from "Flesh for Frankenstein": "To know death, Otto, you must fuck life in the gallbladder."
LavenderGray  95
06-18-2004 01:48 PM ET (US)
Rabbit: Yeah, I've been avoiding the HP fandom. I learned a hard lesson from the LOTR fandom. I now know what a "tinhat" is in that regard, and wish desperately that I could erase that information from my brian.
LavenderGray  96
06-18-2004 02:16 PM ET (US)
Except for the potterstinks livejournal, because it is GENIUS.
Ernst Bitterman  97
06-18-2004 02:32 PM ET (US)
I'm not sure if this is entirely appropriate in the wake of the kids' birthday, but for some reason, monkey-based whimsy makes me think of this crowd...
http://engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=mo...nks&date=2004-05-24
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  98
06-18-2004 03:15 PM ET (US)
Ok, ok. first things first.

HAPPAI BEEERTHDAAAY KITTIESSS!!!

Wow, it's been a year already? time flies when you watch such pretty kitties.

Ok, now, i've been bad and not started homework in order to bring you this.

http://img66.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Z...hotoshops/Gont2.gif

i might manage to finish it in 3 parts!

Happy B-day to teh kitties again! I cannot express enough how lucky you are, Bill. congrats.
Rabbit  99
06-18-2004 06:09 PM ET (US)
Zefiel: Beautiful...just beautiful. *wipes tear of joy from eye*

Lavender: Hehe, fandom. I gave up on fandom after spending some time in anime fandom. I wouldn't touch HP fandom with a ten-foot pole right now. 0_o Way too many scary fanfics out there.

Speaking of the tinhats, this community is too funny to be real. But it is real. Oh so very, frightenly, real. Be careful though, some of the stuff there isn't work safe.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  100
06-18-2004 11:52 PM ET (US)
Negs:
Thanks for the reading recommendation. I bought the copy for $6, and passed on the 2 sellers who wanted $200 for it, just because it's OOP.

Ernst:
I'd buy a can of each of those! Whether I'd drink them is another story.

Zef:
It's the Jesuses that make it! That and the gopher suit. I wonder what the antenna does.

Rabbit:
Hey, thanks. I still had some brain tissue left that wasn't totally scarred; thanks for taking care of that for me.
NegaduckPerson was signed in when posted  101
06-19-2004 12:10 AM ET (US)
Bill - lemme know when you get the book! I've recommended it to quite a few others, and the poeple who've gotten it have all loved it.

(Gonna go get my copy... now I want to reread it...)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  102
06-19-2004 01:41 AM ET (US)
Zef:
I think that you did miss one point of the G-Man in panel one.
You drew it with D-kins reacting with astonished humility from meeting the Son of Gourd. Y'know, like any normal person would. But Gonty would've done it assuming that Jesus had re-written the Bible just for him. ie, with a big, self-satisfied smirk on his face. "THANKS, Jesus! Now can you smite those who mock my 'art'?"
LavenderGray  103
06-19-2004 02:16 AM ET (US)
I can't read Zef's comic. I keep getting a 404 message. I don't know why.
M3  104
06-21-2004 02:16 AM ET (US)
Dammit Bill. I just starting wondering why "the whole enchilada" is used in marketing. You know, "Come down to Matress King and get THE WHOLE ENCHILADA"!

Where was half an enchilada ever a standard?

And that Word Detective site doesn't have that listed :( Me sad.
M3  105
06-21-2004 02:20 AM ET (US)
And I came in the other day because there's a community on LJ that mocks bad furry art, and I joined because the comments are DAMN funny. Anyway, we discussed Gonterworks once, and just last week someone came in with GONTERICONS! So I came over here to tell in that excited OMG girly whisper, and saw that someone else made nifty icons, and got all distracted and never said anything. Because I'm like that.

Loved the icons, I wonder if there's a market for them. I don't know how many Bill Fans have LJ's and would want a GonterIcon to begin with, but the giant looming opportunity to mock him more is nagging at me.... Must... Not... Make... Icons.
Marc  106
06-21-2004 10:02 AM ET (US)
I know it is a few days late but happy belated birthday to the catses!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  107
06-21-2004 01:50 PM ET (US)
M3:
What's the url of that LJ?
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  108
06-21-2004 03:01 PM ET (US)
"Dammit Bill. I just starting wondering why "the whole enchilada" is used in marketing. You know, "Come down to Matress King and get THE WHOLE ENCHILADA"! "

I don't know. we eat at least 3 enchiladas on a sitting, so i'd never settle for one. half of one would be plan RUDE.
Mimi  109
06-22-2004 03:14 PM ET (US)
I think Gontericons are ultimately counterproductive ;)
No matter how vicious you make them as mocking material and make it clear that you laugh AT him, not with him, Boring-now-he's-on-better-meds Davey would just grin and run with it. Dammit, he's cottoned on that any publicity is good publicity.
I wonder what it would take nowadays to really piss him off? None of us work for the RIAA, so that's out. I reckon it would take someone doing a comic of Susan Traveller or whoever his symbiotic android foxy toy-of-the-moment is being ravished by Michael Eisner. And have her ENJOYING it ;)
Or Mickey wiping his feet on a Johnny-Briz-furskin rug. >:)
Zefiel  110
06-22-2004 04:52 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-22-2004 05:02 PM
"I reckon it would take someone doing a comic of Susan Traveller or whoever his symbiotic android foxy toy-of-the-moment is being ravished by Michael Eisner. And have her ENJOYING it ;)"

...I could do that. hehehe. except i don't know how Eisner looks like. wait as sec, if i recall, Mimi's a far better artist than i am. so it's because doing such a comic could scar your mind? if so, it's cool too. i don't mind.

anyway, Bill, lookit this! it's all your fault too, since i first discovered evil monkey comics and the delightful Violence Man via you! so i buy the not so awesome Hsu and Chan by Norm Scott. anyway, first look at this picture (all pics are Biiig, sorry.)

http://img66.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Zefiel/Random/torgo.jpg

Nothing odd about it? no? how about we LOOK CLOSER?

http://img66.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Zefiel/Random/torgo2.jpg

It's him!! woo! (see what the sign under says) i wonder how Norm saw it? the Hsu and CHan comic is from 2003.. (yeah, i just got it. was 'lost' in the mail)

and last, so you see using sound effects like 'KICK!' isn't synonimous with suckyness:

http://img66.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Zefiel/Random/kick.jpg

RAD.

also, re: gonterdrawing i made, see, Bill, that's why you're collaborating, you know the guy way better. i'll correct the drawing soon and hopefully start the third one.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  111
06-22-2004 06:38 PM ET (US)
"I wonder what it would take nowadays to really piss him off? None of us work for the RIAA..."

Let's face it, his new meds must be elephant tranquilizers. Compare the drool-flecked shriekings of the author of NiTRO/Sally Protest/Piasa Bird to his latest stuff. My Little Pony doesn't have eyes that big. And the average little girl's My Little Pony play sessions had more action than the entirety of Baka Breakers.

It would be an interesting experiment to open a Cafe Press shop featuring his--ahem--art and see what happens. He hates the RIAA, but he's more than happy to slap copyright symbols all over everything he does. Even Jonny Briz, which he stole. The MySTings can be defended by "fair use," but what if the only person actually making money off of his life's calling was doing it selling "You dare question my grapefruits?!" t-shirts?

"and last, so you see using sound effects like 'KICK!' isn't synonimous with suckyness:"

Norm can get away with it because his is a joke. Davey used those ridiculous SFs because you couldn't tell what the hell action he was trying to depict otherwise. He wasn't joking when in "American Pit-sune" he wrote "HOLSTER PISTOL!"
Zefiel  112
06-22-2004 07:40 PM ET (US)
But you didn't say anything about the torgo cameo... ;_;
Ernst Bitterman  113
06-22-2004 10:56 PM ET (US)
The m-m-m-master will m-m-memorialize mmy luggage-carrying prowess...

The juxtaposition of the fierce innoculation struggle and the recent video picks is grand;
[badly sync'd voice]: "Ah! Spluturius has Kikilla's face into containments vessel! How may she escape?!"

Seriously, tho', GMK (as wise review sites have it) is a brilliant addition to the canon-- it's nice to see someone else who doesn't get twisted up at the notion of Ghidorah as a "good guy". It is somewhat better than the also-recent G. vs. Megaguirus, although GMK lacks a jaw-droppingly insane anti-Godzilla device. They both have the strange new relaxed attitude to concordance (mentioned the '54 original...check! On with new business!), which seems very creatively freeing. I must admit, I would like to see who would root for what if the GMK version of big G were pitted against that ol' Smog Monster.

...yeah, I should go play outside more...
NegaduckPerson was signed in when posted  114
06-23-2004 07:51 AM ET (US)
The one thing that would be likely to tick him off more than anything else would be for one of his current works to be MiSTed. He's still got a bug up his butt about that. Funny, at first he loved the attention and publicity it got. But after the (very nasty) MiSTing of his (dreadful) SM:AK series, he has hates all MiSTings, be they bad or good. Result: the reputable MiSTers no longer touch his works, but those who just want to rip 'em apart still do, and often badly. Whatever!

He has been quick in the past to itemize his complaints against his persecutors, but never once have I seen Jen White (me) listed among them, or her MiSTings referenced. I hope that's because, since I set out to create works of humor rather than just to insult, I didn't strike the nerves that others did.
M3  115
06-23-2004 03:58 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-23-2004 04:06 PM
LJs can be evil. You learn too much about someone and you come to disdain them and wonder how you ever were friends with them. *sigh*

The comm is actually "VCL Horrors" and they've really toned down since I joined, mainly because the VCL site blocked the links and got bitchy over it. Suddenly we have members piping up saying "I don't think THAT is a horror" and it's like, yeah, great, kill the fun. http://www.livejournal.com/community/vcl_horrors/

Darnit, forgot to say that because VCL blocked the links, you have to copy paste to a new window, OR you can just friend the community, as they can't block links you click from your friends page.
Mimi  116
06-23-2004 06:03 PM ET (US)
"never once have I seen Jen White (me) listed among them, or her MiSTings referenced. I hope that's because, since I set out to create works of humor rather than just to insult, I didn't strike the nerves that others did."
Or maybe he likes Space Ghost? ;)
I daresay he hasn't seen my NightWalkers mist yet...
The trick is to make it SEEM like you're just trashing the fic/comic, but get in the Gontie jibes subtly. But not TOO subtly, or he wouldn't get them ;)

And nooooo, no WAY am I drawing Gontie anger-fodder ;) Good lord, I might run into him at a con!
(wonder if he's going to Wizard World? Chicago's reachable from St Louis and it's the second-biggest con in the country. Now THAT would be sweet if he came sniffing around Artist Alley... not that I'd have a CLUE what he looked like...)
Ernst Bitterman  117
06-23-2004 06:08 PM ET (US)
He's the one with the square eyeballs ;-)
Mimi  118
06-23-2004 06:09 PM ET (US)
WHOO! LIVEWIRE UPDATE!! (yeah, it's more Gontie babble, sorry folks ;))

Little Miss Token Japanese Girl:'Guten Morugen'...
okay, so she's GERMAN now? Oh Davey Davey Davey....<hasn't even got the energy to shake head>
And.. oh. Adam can speak fluent Japanese. Didn't see THAT coming...9_9
And we have yet ANOTHER 'break for a character bio' post. I HOPE that name is deliberate and not a bad misspelling of 'Ursula'.
'A twenty-something miscarriage/violent crime victim'. A victim of miscarriage? What, she got expelled before reaching full term? Good lord....<shaking head>
Anyone feel like making up a sockpuppet account and go spice things up on his message board with me? ;)
Mimi  119
06-23-2004 06:15 PM ET (US)
Oh! Oh!... Bill or Jen, you have a PoE account, right?
You should point the Foxfire forum to this little gem in his own forum. <ticks> So that's one more lost lamb back in the fold again...
http://foxfirestudios.us/forum/index.php?showtopic=31

(okay, will really shut up now. Sorry, this is the only place where I can find fellow Gontie-watchers. PoE scares me ;))
Zefiel  120
06-23-2004 07:42 PM ET (US)
Bill! whenever i'm testing the network we have in our internet cafe, i type a random url off the top of my head to see if there's any connection. i usually get evil adware search engines and 'this domain for sale' stuff, but today i tried 'lechat.com' and via that i found this:

http://www.pawbreakers.com/index.html

they say it's the best kitty thing since.. uh.. kitty litter. thought you'd at least want to look at it. (and we'd love more pics of a stoned Byron!)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  121
06-23-2004 11:34 PM ET (US)
Memo to self:
When wanting comments, talk about Gontercrap!

Ernst:
"It is somewhat better than the also-recent G. vs. Megaguirus, although GMK lacks a jaw-droppingly insane anti-Godzilla device."

NetFlix, in its 4 sentence description, mentions throwing Godzilla into a black hole. Yes, risking destroying an entire sprial arm of the Milky Way to get rid of a big lizard--yep. Insane. Pretty much.

GMK did have the D9, the missile that drills into its target before exploding. While that's quite nifty as a kaiju-killer, it's first introduced as way to clear out rubble blocking a tunnel after a landslide. It certainly eliminates that pesky "survivors found" problem.

Hedorah the Smog Monster will prly never be recreated, due to his extreme "looks like bad diarrhea" image. He does get points for being the only movie character ever to attempt to defeat its enemy by shitting it to death. (If you haven't seen the movie--YES, HE DOES)

Negs:
"never once have I seen Jen White (me) listed among them, or her MiSTings referenced. I hope that's because, since I set out to create works of humor rather than just to insult, I didn't strike the nerves that others did."

Or maybe it was because yours were based on your artwork. Even he's got to realize that there are people who can draw better than him.

Mimi:
"Bill or Jen, you have a PoE account, right?
You should point the Foxfire forum to this little gem in his own forum."

The PoE forum still exists?
No thanks. To be honest, that guy sounds like a little whiny jerk. "Ohh, Davey didn't say 'Thank You!' in exactuly dose wordies!" Go work in retail for a week, jerk. You have no idea what constitutes "abuse" and "Oh, my poor widdle feewings! Sniff, sniff!" What a baby.

IMO, Davey came out classier than him. Seriously--"I went there to mock him, then whined when he didn't love me?" What is his problem? It's like complaining that you decided to slash someone's tires, then got mad when they didn't offer you an FTD Forget-Me-Not bouquet when you didn't.

Zef:
$10 for 4? I'm getting those! Toe-Monster B will go crazy! Even The Divine One may get freaky wid it!
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  122
06-23-2004 11:51 PM ET (US)
I grimaced and passed on commenting the first time he brought this subject up, hoping that he'd be wise enough to avoid it again. Since he hasn't...

'A twenty-something miscarriage/violent crime victim'

He means "a pregnant woman beaten so severely that she miscarried."

Just spend a moment thinking about how horrible a crime that would be. And what it would do to the psyches of her, the father, and all their families.

Now picture Daveykins Foxfire depicting it.

I haven't mentioned this "plot element" before, because I got so pissed off about it. This asswipe who can't draw a HAND, who can't create a single character that isn't a manifestation of his own ego and said ego's need to be sucked up to--Thinks he can handle THIS theme?!

Anyone else think that they can do a COMIC STRIP on this theme? That also includes FUCKING TALKING MICE?! Show of hands!

Didn't think so. It'd be like "Cathy" going to Buchenwald.
Ernst Bitterman  123
06-23-2004 11:59 PM ET (US)
It's just a *wee* black hole.... I think the Japanese take on fate gives the D9 it's moral footing-- buddy, if you're under a couple of tons of rock, you're off the tax rolls. The kami have spoken!

Hedorah is only recently off the gotta-see list, through the good offices of http://www.videodaikaiju.com/ (I may never be able to watch a dubbed version again). That is a SERIOUSLY weird piece of business, but very much of it's age. Silly hippies.

Zef: Speaking of kami-- not only avoiding spamsites but actually landing in something cool, wow! You're working your protectors overtime!
Mimi  124
06-24-2004 02:26 PM ET (US)
re. Gontie riding rough-shod over severe emotional trauma.

Ah, but Bill, he bravely took on the touchy subject of torture-rape-gruesome murder in Night soldiers.... clearly, there is no subject he can't handle. </sarcasm>

This is how little experience he has with the female psyche. Giving a woman a violent, horrible past is the only way he can think of to give her 'depth'. Loser.
Ernst Bitterman  125
06-24-2004 07:56 PM ET (US)
Anyone else think that they can do a COMIC STRIP on this theme? That also includes FUCKING TALKING MICE?! Show of hands!
Didn't think so. It'd be like "Cathy" going to Buchenwald.


Took almost a day for it to come to the surface-- Art Spiegelman's Maus. Of course, Spiegelman was making artistic use of the "funny animal" format to both make the incredible ugliness of the holocaust safe enough for a North American audience to approach and to give himself enough emotional distance to pursue the project.

Which, of course, is stuff that requires an ARTIST. Not a pretentious git (not that one can't be both, but the latter just doesn't work as a substitute for the former).
NegaduckPerson was signed in when posted  126
06-24-2004 08:58 PM ET (US)
Mimi:

If you thought the torture-rape-gruesome murder thing in Night Soldiers was bad, you should have seen the original version. I critiqued it very heavily, and originally the Bad Girl was to have raped, killed, and raped again everyone in the house, "even the children." I pointed out that this was just too over the top, one because children were involved, and two because she feeds off of life energy, so why would she rape corpses, never mind how, or how investigators could detect such postmortem activities at a glance?

To his credit, he did ask for and listen to criticism, and he incorpirated a fair bit of it, but sometimes it made it worse. I forget what was originally in the space that was replaced by the "hat made by schoolchildren" talk, but it wasn't quite that bad.
Mimi  127
06-25-2004 04:58 PM ET (US)
That's probably another reason why your MSTs have escaped his wrath - you HELPED him with a story, Negs.
The final result isn't so much gruesome as laughable. I'm sure his INTENTION was to stop you in your tracks and go 'whoa.. sick evil!'. But that accompanying picture only induces giggles. The disembodied head.. with the tongue and the...teeheeheeheehee....
At least Planeswalker had some action. which is always where Gontie is his funniest. (and he seems to have taken it down....pity. The mugger scene was gold)
NegaduckPerson was signed in when posted  128
06-25-2004 06:52 PM ET (US)
That's probably another reason why your MSTs have escaped his wrath - you HELPED him with a story, Negs.

That might be true, if he knew it was me. He might or might not have known that the MiSTer known as Jen White is actually me, but he did not know that the person critting his story was also me. plus, this was a few years after he went bonkers, and the issue had grown cold by then.

Maybe it was my beautiful blue eyes?
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  129
06-25-2004 08:24 PM ET (US)
Well, i finally finished teh homework. so, first things, here's the corrected version. hope i conveyed the dementia properly.

http://img66.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Z...otoshops/Gont2B.gif
Chamelaeon  130
06-25-2004 10:17 PM ET (US)
Bill:

Sadly, the car was none of my doing, but I did know several people who worked on the alternative energy car team. It's an amazing piece of work, to be sure.

However, if you ever see anything about an autonomous helicopter from Rose, THAT I worked on. ^_~
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  131
06-25-2004 11:19 PM ET (US)
Ernst:
"Took almost a day for it to come to the surface-- Art Spiegelman's Maus."

Point well made. When I wrote that, I wasn't thinking of Maus, but I was aware that people have done very dark, emotionally accurate comic books (CROW: They're graphic novels!). Maus is the best example. I read that when it (literally) was first published, as an insert in RAW magazine (which Spiegleman co-founded and co-edited). But it takes about 2 pages to forget that the characters of Maus are drawn as mice. His style is simple, but perfectly evocative: You quickly learn who's who, and the whole run of emotions can be depicted with a single line on a face.

Gonty is trying to do a comic strip on this subject, featuring the most personality-less and inartictulately-drawn anthropomorphic creatures this side of--I dunno, Garfield. And Garfield doesn't have miscarriages with his lasagna.

Negs:
Thanks for the recommendation of "Cat's Kingdom"! I read the first 2 chapters last night. The photos are great! And I'm glad that my family numbers just 2 kitties. And not 150.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  132
06-25-2004 11:21 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-26-2004 12:59 AM
I meant that Garfield has an extremely limited range of emotional expression. Not that Daveykins draws on the level of Jim Davis and his army of assistants. Just to clear that up.

Oh yeah, Davey's updating almost daily! Today, we find out that he likes Fox News, "big screeen television," and run-on sentences. And, as usual, that's about all we learn. The funniest line is the second-to-last one, if you think about it.
Ernst Bitterman  133
06-25-2004 11:59 PM ET (US)
Heavens, I hope I didn't give the impression I thought the Gont was uttering a valid expression of artistic urges! The BEST thing that can be said of him is he's a sterling example of the evils of an overinflated ego: The Living Cautionary Tale! Two bits a gander!

The worst that can be said of him... well, I'm not goin' there in a public forum. Previous comments from others have hinted at it.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  134
06-26-2004 12:05 AM ET (US)
I got up to date with Gonter.. i don't know, When a japanese/mexican family entered the toy store, i waited loooots, until i was fairly sure the girls (about 4 or 5 yrs old)were speaking japanese before i decided to speak to them in the little japanese i know (i basically showed them a toy puppy and kitty saying, kore, koneko, kore, inu, kawaii, desu ne? [desu ne being something only women say, but i was nervous]). it was fun, the mother was the one who listened to me (and the asian part of the family, the dad was purebred latino) and she looked like i had just flipped her off. (i did worry about the possibility of she mishearing me to something completely inadequate) and she just nodded and ran to her husband who was in the register. i started to slink away, and he called me, my blood froze. then he just asked 'where'd you learn japanese?' and i had to say that i knew next to nothing. he said it was good. hee.

now, i'd feel that if i was asian (or latino, as i am but i was being hypotetical) and when i came in a place and someone greeted me in a language that i may or might not speak, i'd feel it'd be a little rude. stereotyping. okay, okay, she did say guuuteeen morning, which sounds more like german.

But it's gonterman we're talking about, so hee, i guess i just wanted to share my story.

And, aging 'virtually, mentally' or not 200 years and having a working brain? people at 70 are doing all sorts of crazy stuff, you'd think, virtual age or not, that girl has to be bound to depends and such.
LavenderGray  135
06-26-2004 01:51 AM ET (US)
Lord, lord, lord. I don't think I'll ever understand the Gonterfascination.

I think it's like David Lynch movies, or being gay. You're either born with the "liking it" gene or you're not.

Speaking of David Lynch, did anyone ever see that Darren Aronovsky film, Pi?

See how desperate I am to change the subject?
Marc  136
06-26-2004 08:59 AM ET (US)
I don't know if I so much "like" Gonterman's works - but I am quite confused and fascinated with it - almost like people's fascination with an accident wreck maybe?

I read the whole comic earlier this morning and I still can't quite figure out where he's going with it (but that may be me being thick).

Where's his older stuff at? It must be 3 or more years since I've seen it. When I get some free time (and not at work) I'd like to go through it.
NegaduckPerson was signed in when posted  137
06-26-2004 05:59 PM ET (US)
Ah, I *thought* this would be a good book for you, Bill! Glad you like it. Have you reached the part about Nibu's sexual exploits? I swear, I know people like that!
LavenderGray  138
06-27-2004 08:06 AM ET (US)
Ugh. I've just had one of those "reading the livejournal and coming to loathe the person" experiences. Quite unpleasant. People are so ill-mannered.

It's not anyone here. Everyone here is nice. In fact, this is the only place I can go online and know that people will be nice.

I have my own livejournal, but I'm not providing the link. It's all repetitive nonsensical chittering about how far along I am with The Novel. I realized today that I never go more than an hour without thinking about The Novel. It's like having a baby in my belly, except it's in my brain.

In other news, I've been avoiding Harry Potter fanaffliction like the plague I’m sure it is, but I've found some cool art sites.

Everyflavour is done in "American" style. There are spoilers for Prisoner of Azkaban, but not for the fourth and fifth books.
http://www.doyourthing.org/glock/

Daydream is in manga style. No spoilers at all.
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/hpdaydream/en_index1.html
My fave is the Seekers pic. I heart the Harry/Cho/Cedric love triangle, and how Draco does not get entangled in all this Seekerlove because his girlfriends must submit blood tests for approval.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  139
06-27-2004 04:12 PM ET (US)
"Have you reached the part about Nibu's sexual exploits? I swear, I know people like that!"

You know people who interupt copulating couples by sticking their heads between their legs? You have interesting friends!
NegaduckPerson was signed in when posted  140
06-27-2004 05:27 PM ET (US)
I *did* tell you I'm part of a RHPS cast, didn't I?
Mimi  141
06-28-2004 05:09 PM ET (US)
Marc - if you want REALLY old stuff, there's http://www.commuterbarnacle.com/gonterman/ - this has most of his 'crappy meds' period. As for more recent stuff or stuff missing from his own site, there's the Sisto Files, which has Negaduck's mstings of some of his comics.
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/9938/sisto.html

(maybe we'll have to get a quick 'n' dirty forum board where the local Gonternuts can go and take our wry commentary. ;p)
And Marc, the 'watching a train wreck' fascination is more than a shared feeling around here. It's why I watch him, anyway ;)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  142
06-28-2004 08:00 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-28-2004 08:01 PM
SOMETHING IS ALMOST SORT OF HAPPENING ON "LIVEWIRE"!!!

http://livewire.keenspace.com/

Mimi, Kiru, Negs, Zef, any other artists--
Would you've put that bottom panel in there? Nice composition, Dough Boy; that really provides a lot of visual information. It's the Butt-Cam!
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  143
06-29-2004 02:27 AM ET (US)
I'm thinking the next strip will be like this, to keep with the 'pacing'

http://img66.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Z...oshops/mogonter.gif

yes, i know i spelled 'gomen' wrong. all typos on purpose. it worries me that i labor so much over stuff that basically looks worse than the stuff of the guy i'm poking fun of.
Ernst Bitterman  144
06-29-2004 12:43 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-29-2004 12:47 PM
Apparently tinned salmon is OK-- salmon doesn't absorb a pile of mercury itself (I read the FDA warning via BBC, who give some depth to the reportage, rather than just shouting "BOO!"), and it seems that it's caught by sensible methods. For daily rations, our mob endorses Hill's Science Diet Oral Care-- spakling pink gums without being traumatized by the vet, and since it's roughly the size and shape of Sugar Corn Pops, it's fun to chase.
Mimi  145
06-29-2004 01:15 PM ET (US)
Bill and zef:
I sense the bottom panel is an ATTEMPT to depict 'Adam can see what's in her hand but we can't'. It's not needed. The frame of Adam reacting is enough to imply that he can see it. Mind you, if the previous frames are any hint, she could be barin' her pert Japanese bosom at him.
And your 'sequel' page was hilarious, Zef :). Funny, your misspelling of 'gomen' looked like 'Goemon' to me ie - the samurai sidekick of Lupin. ;)
Personally, I question the phrase 'It is I who would like to do for you'. Where I come from 'do for you' implies providing services of a more 'discrete' kind *nudge nudge*
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  146
06-29-2004 01:20 PM ET (US)
Incidentally, for the half-dozen or so people who are into it, I set up another Quicktopic board for Gonterman stuff. Just so Bill's later posts don't keep getting hijacked by our odd little fascination with ol' Square Eyes ;)
Here it is:

http://www.quicktopic.com/27/H/MrK5qgKmUsKE9
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  147
06-29-2004 02:22 PM ET (US)
(oh, it's Mimi, btw... had to change my username when I signed up the board)
LavenderGray  148
06-29-2004 03:57 PM ET (US)
Yet another reason I'm glad I'm a vegetarian. About a month ago I spontaneously became one after having a horribly vivid dream about a pig that was force-fed until its stomach exploded. That was pretty much the end of that.

I'm not sure why this would cause me to lay off fish, but I always hated the taste of fish anyway, so it wasn't some big sacrifice.

I do miss chicken and ham, though. I buy the "meatless meat-flavored food product" now.
Zefiel  149
06-29-2004 05:39 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-29-2004 05:39 PM
"I do miss chicken and ham, though. "

Yet more proof that humans are physically omnivore, and hence have no need to lay off meat. ;) i know i could never live without meat. sad, tuna is the only fish apart from shark (dogfish, i think it's called there) and shrimp that i dig.
M3  150
06-29-2004 06:29 PM ET (US)
Cool, a Gonty board. Maybe he should add Ritalin to his mix so he can get shit done and get to the point.

I was in Tahiti once and saw a guy greet a family of four Asians with the Japanese good morning (I can't remember what it is offhand). I think my mouth flew open at his presumption that they were Japanese, they responded in English and then sat and talked in English! I was like, "Take that you asshat!" Sure the Asias are close to Tahiti, but just making a physical assumption like that... always pisses me off.

On the other hand, I'm always relieved when the latina clerks at the grocery store use English for me. I bought "Spanish For Dummies" but haven't made any progress.

Catwoman was to film some stuff on my street but ended up conflicting with another filming (Third Wish?) and they had to move/delay/cancel it (no word yet).
LavenderGray  151
06-29-2004 11:06 PM ET (US)
Nnngh. Now my parents are wanting to put us all on the Atkins diet. As a vegetarian, this would leave me with nothing to eat but soy milk and carpet.
Ernst Bitterman  152
06-30-2004 12:06 AM ET (US)
"...wanting to put us all on the Atkins diet."

I greatly distrust any diet system that offers "Ready-to-Eat Sliced Bread". It implies that eventually they'll offer "Sliced Bread You Must Wrestle to Submission". I'll admit I'm pretty fond of the flesh of my fellow creatures, but occasionally I like to give my kidneys a rest with a salad, or a nice apple.
NegaduckPerson was signed in when posted  153
06-30-2004 12:12 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-30-2004 12:12 AM
The Atkins diet is, in my opinion, nutritionally gruesome. And any diet that says I can eat three steaks wrapped in cheese slices but I mustn't have a freakin' apple is really screwed. Forget these fad diets, eat less and exercise!

<./rant>
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  154
06-30-2004 12:28 AM ET (US)
What IS the Atkins Diet? Does it recommend ANY fibrous fruit or veggies, or at least daily doses of vitamin D and folic acid?
My Dad died of colon cancer, so that means I'm on the hit-list, too. And an all-meat/no fiber diet is the quickest way, especially if you don't take some key supplements that meat doesn't give you.

I should dig out my old copy of the book "Fads, Follies and Delusions of the American People," which had a chapter on the fad diets of its time (up until 1967). There was one called "The Drinking Man's Diet." By which they meant "dieting by getting drunk."
Well, yes. Vomiting and diarrhea will make you lose weight. IT WORKED FOR ME! I should make the "Splut Spastic Diaphragm Diet"!
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  155
06-30-2004 12:45 AM ET (US)
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ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  156
06-30-2004 12:45 AM ET (US)
"And any diet that says I can eat three steaks wrapped in cheese slices"

Where do i sign up? some mexican food's just as evil, anyway. I personally live in horror of the 'eating less' concept. i could never do such a thing.

</glad is still young and has a strong GI>
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  157
06-30-2004 01:15 AM ET (US)
There's a new post for the main page, but either WSFTP is down and not letting me upload it, or I'm royally D--- Cheney'd.
MiminaPerson was signed in when posted  158
06-30-2004 10:16 AM ET (US)
The carb-phobia sweeping America these days is truly scary. I avoid eating overly fatty foods like deep-fried stuff, but my staple foods are pasta and rice and I'm damned if someone's going to tell me that's unhealthy.
I lost more weight when I dropped milk from my diet. I eat a helluva lot of cheese and I love ice cream, so I still get my calcium.
I also extoll the virtues of a good ol' general anaesthetic to lost weight. I always lost weight after a bit of day surgery. ;)
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  159
06-30-2004 10:48 AM ET (US)
"...either WSFTP is down and not letting me upload it, or I'm royally D--- Cheney'd."

Well, you DID cast aspersions on the noble tradition of burning lumps of sulphurous carbon as a means of... er... making a few bucks, I guess. Noble pursuit of the wiley spondoolix is not to be treated lightly (see USAPARTIDIOT act, Sec. 755, sub.iib), with penalties which may include but are not limited to projection by catapult.
LavenderGray  160
06-30-2004 04:17 PM ET (US)
Atkins is basically meat, meat, and more meat. The most bizarre rule is that "white ain't right" meaning baked potatoes, my favorite meat substitute, is supposed to be off limits. Also bananas and cereal and grapes and such. After three days of semi-following this, I'm already so exhausted that I have to lie on the ground and roll where I want to go.
Marc  161
06-30-2004 05:16 PM ET (US)
Mum tried the ol' Atkins diet, and she really felt horrible after a short duration too. So she just started eating sensibly and cut out sweets, and she's excersizing too, and she's lost about 80 LB.

A flameup of Crohn's had my brother lose a pile of weight quickly. we had no idea he had it...
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  162
07-01-2004 12:32 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 07-01-2004 12:33 AM
I wish i could go on a diet. i don't eat at home, but at grandma's, and that's carb house with lots of tortillas and bread. (no, i don't have the will to don't eat them. they'd have to be absent)

Well, i reread Sphere last night, and Crichton writes that basically the only difference between humans and animals is that we have imagination, and that it propels us. (yes, i know his stuff is fiction, but there's always a heavy researched real scientific background behind every novel.. that's why i got miffed with him after reading Eaters of the dead which was fascinating and full of facts, but entirely fiction. he wrote it because of a bet)
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  163
07-01-2004 10:48 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 07-01-2004 10:51 AM
Zef: he wrote it because of a bet. The bet was, of course, "Bet you can't rip off Beowulf without people noticing." Friggin' hack. That story was old before Islam was invented, never mind having adherents wandering into the frozen north. I still like The Andromeda Strain, tho'.

Lavender: White ain't right Surely the mighty protein and fat content of white Mr. Tofu will please the great god Atkins and his prophets (Phil and Oprah). You might point out to the family that even obligatory carnivores like... CATS! will occasionally eat too much protein for their kidneys to deal with. I've lately been enjoying a cereal called "Hemp Plus Granola" (no idea how the accent falls), which has plenty of protein in it, and thanks to an inclusion of flax seeds, masses of fibre.

Bill: On the recent musings de re Felis Catus and other critters. I'm reading a book called The Tribe of Tiger (Elizabeth M. Thomas), which is essentially a sociology thesis on cats, and in it she writes of a lion she was once menaced by which made a point of not looking directly at her when a flashlight swung in it's direction. It would look near enough that it wasn't trying to avoid being dazzled-- it had apparently worked out that it's eyes shone in the dark, and it was easier to sneak up on the ground-apes if it didn't present eyeballs to a light source. This discovery could only come from observing OTHER lions and pondering it's own lion-ness....

Of course, animals can't build cruise missiles, so we're still special. It says so in The Bible, which we all know is NOT AT ALL a collection of possibly useful stories by a variety of guys with personal and political agendas specific to the Middle East in the Bronze Age. Yep. Special.
Ernst BittermanPerson was signed in when posted  164
07-01-2004 11:51 AM ET (US)
Oh, by the way, a Merry Canada Day to yez all.

All the merrier given the election results-- the Liberals (centrist) got a minority win, and the party they'll have to lean on to avoid non-confidence votes is mainstream leftist. *sigh* The next 3-24 months should be pretty good. That's about as long as minority governments last around here.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  165
07-01-2004 07:02 PM ET (US)
"Bet you can't rip off Beowulf without people noticing."

Well, i read the book (and hence the disclaimer he wrote at the end explaining everything) a while ago, but ya, i think that was basically it.
M3  166
07-01-2004 08:59 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 07-01-2004 09:08 PM
After learning about tapeworms in biology class, I always wanted to get one implanted and see what good it would do me :)

Hey, maybe all the brown in my tap water would do me good! It could be like... fiber... or an alien life form... or rust! I need iron.

I'll have to research this kidneys/protein thing. Hm...

Edit - Gotta argue on the "humans have the gift of speech" thing too.... Just because we don't understand cows doesn't mean they don't have speech. They obviously understand each other. Cats, dogs, BIRDS, frickin' whales, they all communicate. It's not farting, it's SPEECH. We really aren't that special after all.
ZefielPerson was signed in when posted  167
07-01-2004 10:18 PM ET (US)
Must..resist.. mentioning the thing where tapeworm eggs being sold as miracle.. diet pills.. too cliche.. argh..

I don't agree at you saying 'frikin' whales. they are long ago known to have some sort of communication between themselves. i just feel you say in a demeaning way, when most whales are smarter than the average people who lives in trailer parks.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  168
07-01-2004 10:25 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 07-01-2004 10:27 PM
"I'll have to research this kidneys/protein thing. Hm..."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/diet.fitnes...end.reut/index.html

""Losing weight on these extreme low-carb diets can lead to such serious health problems as kidney stress, liver disorders and gout," the group advises."

Gout? I thought that was something only people from Dickens' time got.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  169
07-01-2004 11:02 PM ET (US)
There was a fad diet among the aristocracy of the (I think) late 18th Century, which involved eating the severed heads of tapeworms. More "sympathetic magic" than science, obviously.

(It also didn't work. Well, fancy that!)
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  170
07-01-2004 11:12 PM ET (US)
This isn't Canada Day--
IT'S DEAD DAVEY DAY!! DEAD DAVEY DAY!!!! DEAD DAVEY DAAAAAY!!!!!!!!

http://livewire.keenspace.com/

CRAP. He's not dead at ALL! He's just downloading hentai.
LavenderGray  171
07-02-2004 01:09 AM ET (US)
And here Bill demonstrates the true difference between humans and animals: Only we have the capacity to download hentai.

Good news from the Gray homestead: Dad and I have said "To Hell with this Atkin's shit!" Which is especially good for him as he's already lost one kidney to cancer. Mom's staying on it, but she'll be safe because she's never been able to stick to a diet.

Of course, Gray isn't really my last name. It's going to be my psuedonym when/if I ever get published. I thought it was pretty clever and original until I read the last two Harry Potter books and found a character named Lavender Brown. Apparently J.K. and I have our own sympathetic magic going on.

I think Gray sounds better than Brown anyway.
LavenderGray  172
07-02-2004 01:37 AM ET (US)
What the hell is a Planeswalker, anyway? Is it like a Landstander?
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  173
07-02-2004 01:49 AM ET (US)
"Planeswalkers" get on Boeing 707s, drink lots of those tiny bottles of Smirnoff vodka, then repeatedly go to the bathroom.

Also, their eyes are square.
Bill the SplutPerson was signed in when posted  174
07-02-2004 01:56 AM ET (US)
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