To Major Donald Zlotnick: Don't know where you got your "evidence" that Kerry ordered/had civilians killed by slitting their throats, etc. but the After Action Summary Report makes no mention of civilians being killed, nor of hand-to-hand contact.

SEALS do not keep on going into an area once discovered. They are supposed to pull back because their presence has been compromised. I got this from SEAL veterans of NAM.

Also, the individual who claimed that he slit a civilian's throat is not a reliable source as no one else in the unit that night can verify anything he has claimed.

Those killed were hit by small arms fire conducted while the unit was taking fire. The bodies were found after the action had ceased, but there are some gaps in the information as to how long the action lasted, how many enemy were involved (two weapons were listed as recovered), about 17 bodies found, etc.

If it was totally dark that night (and the Delta can get damned dark - I couldn't see my hand in front of my face when I stood on the ramparts of an ARVN outpost deep in the Delta), then in the confusion of a firefight, civilians probably were accidentally killed.

There is no evidence so far that the SEALS started the action. They were apparently discovered before they could get to the VC meeting they were supposed to attack.

Kerry has mentally caved in to allegations about a war crime that in all provability never took place. He is now on a perpetual guilt-trip, induced by a possibly unstable former colleague and North Vietnamese propaganda.

If you have any solid "evidence" that contradicts what I have said, please post it here. I'm not interested in suppositions, supposes, maybe's, people said, etc. That doesn't hold water in court or with me. I want facts - not wild guesses.

And since John Kerry has admitted to committing "war crimes" by H&I, firing on villages, etc., why not demand that he be tried as a self-admitted war criminal? What do you think of them apples?