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07:45 PM ET (US)
PMR Limbo, I live in Ohio, our jobs weren't posted until mid Nov, then we took test a couple days later.we didn't have any PSE's apply or anyone off the street in our area, so we didn't have a hiring list. on application, it said "offer phase".we get to keep our offices in our area.
Edited 12-16-2014 07:49 PM
06:10 PM ET (US)
2pmr: Where do you work? Which state? Someone from HR called me this past Saturday, and said this whole PMR-to-PSE POSTPlan has been a complete mess. She said that one day they hear from Area HQ to hold-off on everything, and then the next day they are told to go ahead with the process. She said that our MGRs/PMs should have the preference lists by the middle of this week. I'm in Virginia.
12:06 PM ET (US)
Good point eve!! I wasn't ready to go and just crazy watching the effort to try to keep my old level#13 office afloat. Paying a lot of commute time thats on the clock.
08:27 PM ET (US)
My MPOO told me that they have already determined that this Post Plan move is going to cost more than if they had left Postmasters working the way things were and did you see 2014 has been the best year since 2008, so why are we all losing our jobs again?
06:26 PM ET (US)

good points about potential issues with clerks. Wondering how it will work with a clerk working in a POS office then working in a non-POS office on Saturday's. How will drawer count work? Doesn't look like postplan will be saving any money...
retired level 13 PM
07:16 PM ET (US)
And to confuse even mores, a NFTY in 6 hour office will now get paid holidays and when they are paid for the holiday, it will be 8 hours.
06:48 PM ET (US)
Saved pay means hourly rate. Saved grade is EAS level. You are paid for the 6.5 hours a day instead of full-time 8 hours a day.
whats next
04:26 PM ET (US)
In a letter I received today on the 6 hour office it says I will receive saved pay but not grade..what exactly does that mean?
12:35 PM ET (US)
PMR confused: you should know something by now. I applied and took test right before Thanksgiving, and found out I got the position over a week ago. already took the five days off and started new position today!
Edited 12-13-2014 12:36 PM
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
08:00 PM ET (US)
/m5023 the union feels a ntft is full time. after all it means Non-Traditional Full-Time. even though we know it is not full-time.
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
07:36 PM ET (US)
Sure doesn't look like it's going to save money, especially if union gets their way.
retired level 13 PM
06:28 PM ET (US)
Riksny: I know what you mean--Christmas is so much more enjoyable because I am not run ragged by the postal job--and I love not having to go out early in the snow.

So, here's another thing in the mix. My old (long ago) clerk has been working in a 6 hour office and they are making him a NFTY and the union guy is treating him like a full time regular. He has told him (and another PTF in 6 doing the same) that they have to take a 15 minute break in the morning and a 10 minute break in the afternoon. They are the only ones there! They can't do that to the customers, in my opinion. He told them to take 5 minutes to wash there hands. Also, since they are scheduled for 6.5 hours a day, if they go over that, it's overtime and should go under 073 on the time card. They also get paid holidays for 8 hours.

He also told these clerks that they are fighting to get these jobs 40 hours a week M-F and a back up person--excuse me, wasn't that my job! And these would have been good spots for postmasters who didn't want to take another job or retire early. This part of post plan sure didn't save any money, did it?
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
06:05 PM ET (US)
I believe - but not for a fact - that the annual salary will be divided by full time hours and then multiplied by the Part time Postmasters actual work hours to determine their pay. That seems like the fairest thing. Goodness knows everyone else is taking a cut. If they only get cut the equivalent of a few hours pay per week...well, that's not so bad. If I knew that's what they were going to do, I might have stayed instead of retiring in February.

Probably not, though: I had had enough & didn't want to have to go through another Christmas, or another winter.
pmr confused
05:45 PM ET (US)
does the save pay mean hourly rates or they are getting the same pay for less hours. My pm has been wondering that and of course no answers. She was told the pay would not be cut but then told her the hrly rate would not be cut since the po hrs is cut then her pay will still be effects as for as her income.
Whats next
10:46 PM ET (US)
pmr confused. No 6 hour offices will not have PSE for Saturday coverage. There relief when they need one will come out of their APO if they have a PSE available. 6 Hr PM's will be working 6 days a week. It is true that we received saved pay until 2016. As someone mentioned in a previous post I think this is just part of the plan to close the small offices. If they cant find and keep help they have grounds to close the office.
pmr confused
10:21 PM ET (US)
I was told that a 6 hr office that the pm is staying is allow to have a PSE to work sat... is this true?? also was told their pay would be for 5 days a wk and kinda like that got a raise cause the pay will not be cut.. so less hours and same money is this true??? has anyone heard if the pms in the 2 and 4 hr offices will have a chance of rolling over to PSE before the pmrs can even apply?? Also, how can all pmrs be let go Dec. 22 if no one is there to run the offices?? nothing is making sense to me at all now days?? why cant they tell us facts. this is so aggravating to try to hang on. I honestly think they are wanting us to walk away. Ive taken my test to be PSE in OCT applied for my whole cluster area. Heard nothing else at all. So whats next?? bust our butt during Christmas then they say See Ya!!!
Edited 12-11-2014 10:30 PM
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