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Siver's latest  3599
09-21-2009 08:45 AM ET (US)
Number: CR-09-526529-A

Caption: THE STATE OF OHIO vs. FRED SIVER

Status: CASE OPEN

Judge Name: NANCY MARGARET RUSSO

PO Name: MINERVA X TORRES

Next Event: PRE TRIAL CONFERENCE SET FOR 09/30/2009 AT 09:00 AM IN ROOM 18C JUSTICE CENTER
The Karmic Wheel  3600
09-22-2009 10:23 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the update. So has he been terminated or not? I know a post on here says yes, but the docket says he was allowed to go to Mich for employment purposes. And if so, who's running the territory?
The Karmic Wheel  3601
09-25-2009 01:58 PM ET (US)
Id have to guess Chris Lent (who should of had it all along), or that Playmate of the Year Judy Weingart.....
Happy Former Rep  3602
09-25-2009 05:17 PM ET (US)
Thanks for your post Chris!
the resistance  3603
09-25-2009 05:52 PM ET (US)
There is not one regional TuRD kiss ass that is in the same league as Judy W. If TuRD had any real revenue generators they would not have folded and usurped TR. Just look at the damage those idiots have done, just look!
Happy Former TR Rep  3604
09-26-2009 08:18 AM ET (US)
Amen brother
Final countdown  3605
10-01-2009 08:00 AM ET (US)
Number: CR-09-526529-A

Caption: THE STATE OF OHIO vs. FRED SIVER

Status: CASE OPEN

Judge Name: NANCY MARGARET RUSSO

PO Name: MINERVA X TORRES

Next Event: PRE TRIAL CONFERENCE (FINAL) SET FOR 10/08/2009 AT 09:00 AM IN ROOM 18C JUSTICE CENTER
the resistance  3606
10-07-2009 12:18 PM ET (US)
almost like TIN itself is going on trial. For crimes against morality....
it's time  3607
10-19-2009 10:01 AM ET (US)
 BUSINESSOCTOBER 19, 2009.

'Contractor' Label Provokes Legal Disputes

Employers, Workers Clash on Pay and Benefits; IRS to Take Closer Look at Classifications

By CARI TUNA

As a cable-television installer in Massachusetts, Fritz Elienberg drove a van and wore a shirt emblazoned with "Comcast." He installed equipment from Comcast Corp., and customers paid the cable provider for his work.

Mr. Elienberg wasn't a Comcast employee, but a so-called independent contractor working for a separate company. This month, he sued both companies, for allegedly depriving him and other contractors of overtime pay and benefits by not considering them employees.

The case highlights a perennial issue for employers that is gaining new prominence during the recession. Lawyers say employers are trying to avoid hiring full-time employees by tapping contractors, as workers seeking better pay and benefits turn to the courts. Employment law firm Ogletree, Deakins, Nash, Smoak & Stewart PC has seen a 13% rise in misclassification claims this year, compared with the same period in 2008, attorneys estimate.

Meanwhile, revenue-strapped government agencies are cracking down, seeking unpaid taxes. Last month, the Internal Revenue Service said it will audit 6,000 random U.S. employers beginning in February, marking its first attempt since 1984 to quantify how many employers misclassify workers.

"We've seen a significant uptick in enforcement actions" reported by clients, says David Islinger, a partner at Jackson Lewis LLP, a law firm that represents employers. He says some employers "don't appreciate the risks" associated with hiring contractors.

From coal miners in the 1940s to Microsoft Corp. programmers in the 1990s and FedEx Corp. truck drivers in recent years, employers and workers have long sparred over the distinction. Contractors aren't covered by minimum-wage, overtime and antidiscrimination laws, and employers don't have to pay unemployment insurance, workers' compensation or Social Security taxes for them.

No one knows how many workers are erroneously labeled contractors. The IRS estimated that in 1984 employers had misclassified 3.4 million workers, depriving the government of $1.6 billion in tax revenue that year.

The classification rules sometimes vary among agencies, but typically boil down to the employer's control over how and when an individual works. The IRS rules on a case-by-case basis using a three-part analysis.

Lawmakers and courts are also weighing in. Massachusetts is a particular hotbed of activity.

Last year, lawmakers there stiffened penalties for employers that violate wage-and-hour laws. In August, the state's highest court ruled that workers can seek damages from employers who misclassify them as independent contractors.

Those developments have helped fuel lawsuits over misclassification. Mr. Elienberg, the former Comcast contractor, filed a similar class-action suit against cable provider RCN Corp. in June.

The companies are "treating us as second-class citizens," says Mr. Elienberg, 48 years old. "We get absolutely nothing. No overtime. ...If we get hurt on the job, we're on our own."

Mr. Elienberg says the company working with Comcast fired him after managers found out about the RCN suit and he questioned his employment status. He remains unemployed.

Comcast spokesman John Demming says Mr. Elienberg was never a Comcast employee, adding that both his shirt and his van identified him as a Comcast contractor. "We strongly disagree with the suit and will defend ourselves vigorously," Mr. Demming says. "We require all of the companies we contract with to comply with all state and federal laws."

RCN declined to comment.

Class-action suits brought by exotic dancers in Massachusetts demonstrate how the recession is forcing the issue. Four current and former dancers at Ten's Show Club in Salisbury, Mass., are suing club owners for allegedly misclassifying them and dozens of other dancers as independent contractors, depriving them of wages and benefits.

Before the recession, the dancers could earn hundreds of dollars in tips per night, so they didn't object to not receiving an hourly wage, and paying a small nightly "house fee" to dance, says Tod Cochran, a Boston lawyer representing the dancers. But business—and tips—are down, and managers have raised the house fee to as much as $60 per night, he says.

Mr. Cochran says the women were encouraged by a state court that earlier this year ruled in favor of about 70 dancers classified as contractors at a different club, who could each receive thousands of dollars in damages.

An attorney representing Ten's Show Club owner Mark Filtranti declined to comment. Telephone calls to the club weren't returned.
Bad Buckeye  3608
10-22-2009 09:43 AM ET (US)
Get over it people. You're contractors. In fact, you're contractors for a contractor. Apply for an employee position, go somewhere else, or just give up. Regardless, quit your bitching unless you were forced to sign your contract.
A spy  3609
10-30-2009 03:12 PM ET (US)
The Karmic Wheel  3610
11-01-2009 08:49 AM ET (US)
What happened...they deleted it...
Bad Buckeye  3611
11-02-2009 08:35 AM ET (US)
Of course they deleted it. It's their forum. It's for customer/company contact and success stories for God's sake; not for allegations of lying representatives, contractors cheating customers out of their marketing budget with antiquated programs, and customers complaining about our credit department. Those should be posted here. Any documented support for pedophiles, pimps, whores, drugs alcohol and other company vices should also come here. That's why we (and they) read it.
TN forums  3612
11-04-2009 05:40 AM ET (US)
What did the victim say?
The Karmic Wheel  3613
11-04-2009 08:23 AM ET (US)
Id like to know that as well..
Bad Buckeye  3614
11-05-2009 09:22 AM ET (US)
Just the usual: TN Rep lied to me, TN Rep vanished, no redress from management, creit department surly and unconcerned, making it his business to make sure no one he is associated with falls into the same trap. Out thousands of dollars without being properly represented on the net as promised. His example being used now in training as a best case scenario on how to lie to your customer and still get the money.
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