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| Lee Phillips
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04-21-2004 10:17 PM ET (US)
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David Brown: it just didn't work: [0]python `python -c "import pimp; print pimp.__file__"` -i readline readline: Not installed: Problem with dependency: (AppleInstalledPython): This package cannot be installed automatically (no Download-URL field) Lee Phillips http://www.lee-phillips.org
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04-14-2004 08:45 AM ET (US)
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Thanks for all the great info! Any updates on getting mod_python 3.x running under OS X are especially welcome.
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04-13-2004 03:41 PM ET (US)
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Python Service Objects, eh? I'll have to check that one out. Thanks for the tip, Dave. I think one of the main reasons mod_python will not build on Panther is due to a heavy reliance on the structure of Linux in its implementation. I once had a dream of mod_python on Mac, but all information I've come across is completely wrong, hopelessly outdated or talks of its' reliance on Linux. Although, I hear darwinports http://darwinports.opendarwin.org has a version that will work with their ports of Python and Apache2. I'll be playing with that one this weekend.
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| David Brown
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04-13-2004 02:28 PM ET (US)
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Here's the easiest way to get readline working in the Python shipped with panther:
python `python -c "import pimp; print pimp.__file__"` -i readline
(all on one line in the terminal)
It just works.
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| Dave Giffin
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04-13-2004 02:18 PM ET (US)
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Another interesting set for a recovering Java developer is the Python Service Objects project over at source forge. http://sourceforge.net/projects/pso/ the development seems to have come to a halt. I need to try and contact the folks who were working on it. But even at the level it is now running at, it works quite well. I haven't played around with the Twisted package too much as of yet. It's on my "to do" list. I am just hoping someone manages to get mod_python going on the OS X install of Apache.
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| Keith Veleba
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04-13-2004 02:02 PM ET (US)
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As a Java developer/manager who's fed up with the complexity/productivity ratio of J2EE-based apps, I've been dabbling in Python for some time now on OSX. I really want to push a lot of Python-based software into my company. We're implementing Plone for a lot of our workflow needs for routing and publishing of docs.
I use Python daily for quick, one-off apps that talk to our production systems, but some of our legacy applications could do with an overhaul. We do a lot of connectivity with other businesses, and I think the Twisted framework is a godsend for network apps like we do.
As a matter of fact, I'm actually thinking of porting a good amount of the JTOpen library to one based on Twisted so I can access our production IBM iSeries boxes directly from Python and not have to use Jython. Any one else interested in such a thing as that? Drop me a line - keith@veleba.net
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| Kevin Altis
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04-13-2004 11:46 AM ET (US)
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| Dave Giffin
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04-13-2004 09:32 AM ET (US)
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PyObjC is definitely worth playing with. It takes a touch of getting used to, but if you are coding GUIs aimed at Mac OS X users, this is the way to go. Not to mentioned better integration with OS X in general. As of right now, I have not found a way to compile mod_python for the standard install of Apache, but Python runs wonderfully as cgi on OS X and is now my prefered web app coding environment. The OS X built in XML parsers rock as well. Very fast and not resource intensive. I've more or less stopped using Java and am now coding almost entirely in Python using OS X as my development platform. It rocks. Take care, Dave Giffin http://www.davtri.com
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04-13-2004 07:39 AM ET (US)
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04-13-2004 01:39 AM ET (US)
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Also don't miss http://pythonmac.org/ which is the home page for all things MacPython. Another useful link is http://undefined.org/python/#pimp which is a pointer to an "unofficial" package repository with a lot more stuff in it than the default one; while installing most Python add-ons is pretty easy, this just makes it all that much easier.
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| Simon
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04-13-2004 01:14 AM ET (US)
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