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Hi All!

I get SP when waking. Does anyone know if you can use it to get into a lucid dream? I have had 2 lucid dreams that lasted long enough to have some fun (flying is awesome! ... although I got stuck in the corner of a room and woke up! lol).

When I get SP I can always control my breathing, my eye lids and my eyes. When I'm panicking to wake up I usually just about manage to shake my right foot and with some patients and alot of effort I eventually wake up.
If I close my eyes and try and go back to sleep I get a profoundly strange feeling. Like a massive adreline shot which is accompanied by a rushing noise like a waterfall. I've never had the courage to go past that stage, it's very scary and I bail and try to wake myself up again!

So I guess what I'm asking is, what happens to you when you go back to "sleep" instead of waking up?

Thanks all.
Adam

Hi Adam,
nothing happens when you go back to sleep except the feeling of still trying to wake up but you cant.
you will wake up soon enough, just try relax when you feel it coming on, and let the lucid dream come in, you need to tell yourself, "this is just a dream and I can do anything I want here"- just basically imagine whatever you want to dream about and it usually happens! Now that i know about sp it doest happen anymore, well at least it hasn't for a few weeks- the last time I just went into lucid dream mode and that was that.

Hi Janet,

Thanks for replying!

I'm a little confused. You said "nothing happens when you go back to sleep except the feeling of still trying to wake up but you cant." but then you say "you will wake up soon enough, just try relax when you feel it coming on, and let the lucid dream come in" so does nothing happen or do you go into a lucid dream?

I heard (and I'm hoping) that you go into a lucid dream if you close your eyes and relax. I get a rushing noise and an all over feeling at this point which usually scares me too much to relax properly. Next time I have SP (I say this everytime) I will actually have the courage to keep relaxing. I want to know what other people have experienced with regards to this. Does the noise just stop all of a sudden and i appear in an environment or what?

Thanks again for replying.

Adam

Edited by author 18-11-2009 13:57
adam, usually when im going back to sleep, i hear a ringing, and i end up paralised again, i often try n stop this by waking myself up, but most of the time its to late n it has kicked in. the ringing continues and only when im coming round n stop feeling paralised it stops. i dunno if this will help with what u are asking. its usually just a case of falling back in to sp state and nothing that u prob havent already experienced will happen. as far as the lucid dreams go... im not 100% sure what this is, i figured yesterday when i was on i have been having out of body experiences, i dunno if this is related to lucid dream? x

Adam
Sorry if my message was confusing i was rushing out to work this morning and didnt read over what i'd typed!
in answer to this part of your post "If I close my eyes and try and go back to sleep I get a profoundly strange feeling. Like a massive adreline shot which is accompanied by a rushing noise like a waterfall. I've never had the courage to go past that stage, it's very scary and I bail and try to wake myself up again!" This is where I meant Nothing else or worse happens just more of the same. so if you have buzzing or ringing it may keep happening,so if you dont fight this but acccept it , then it will fade out and you should then be in a lucid dream state. Just tell yourself its ok and ask yourself what you'd like to dream about and go for it!

I am begining to question if during SP ones mind is actually awake as the last few times I proved to myself upon wakening that I had to be dreaming.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/8364393.stm
have a read of this guys.

Hi everyone, Iv been readng through your messages but have noticed that no-one mentions the hallucinations which I experience throughout periods of sleep paralysis..Once I figured out that SP was what I was suffering from, it did help me a little to panic less when under SP, however because I have such vivid hallucinations whilst in this paralysed state, Im unable to relax, mostly because until i manage to jolt myself out of the paralysis, I think what the hallucinations are real. Eg. Im terrified of spiders and whilst under SP I will see them on my bed, or people will come into my room, talk to me, look around my room or in some cases, get into bed with me whilst im paralysed...and al the time whilst under SP I think this is real.. I jolt myself out of it, only to fall straight back into the paralysis again (where i hear what sounds like a strong wind in my ears). See the paralysis alone I could cope with but the hallucinations are dreadful and Im seriously sleep deprived which causes migraines and epilepsy.. does anyone else go through this?? Sleeping on my front doesnt seem to help anymore as it used to and this is becoming almost a nightly battle! Any advice would be greatly appreciated.Thanks x

Sarah,

The mind is very powerful. If you are freaking out or scared your mind can gallop off in all directions. Like you said you are afraid of spiders so when you start an episode you are already afraid and thus your sub consious kicks in as well where you are projecting your fears. I can assure you that if you were afraid of ducks there would more than likely be ducks pecking at your feet. What you need to do is stop being afraid. You will not die, you will not hurt yourself just try to ride it out and tell yourself that you are OK and you are not in any danger.

When I was in my prime of learning about SP and totally afraid it was only until after I spoke to my doctor and my vicar that I started to realise these were more of a pain then they were anything evil or demonic. That said I was diagnosed with Sleep Apnea and SP are very clear signs of SA or Narcolepsy. Please get those two conditions ruled out as SA particularly can be very serious.

Here is an article in regards to your question of Hallucinations:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090609072705.htm

Here is another article that talks about symptoms and findings by Stanford
http://www.stanford.edu/~dement/paralysis.html

>>>>SP are very clear signs of SA or Narcolepsy.<<<<

*edit* I should say "They could be.." not in every case..

Btw, if you have problems slipping back into SP episodes when you manage to wake up chances are you aren't fully awake. A few folks I know (myself included) require getting out of bed to get a sip of water or even to stand up for a second. This gets your mind awake enough to be able to register things. The chinese said in these cases to rub cold water on your legs.

I have had the feeling of being moved whilst experiencing sp. For example, I was lying on my right side, and my right arm was on the bed level with my shoulder, and my arm was moved so it was at the side of my body. I could not move any part of my body and I did not move my arm myself, this was the most frightening thing about the experience, it was after that I felt the pressure on my whole body. I can cope with being paralysed to a point, but being moved without actually doing anything is very frightening. Has anyone else experienced this?

Maybe someone here might be able to shed some light on this Sleep Paralysis Experience:

For years my boyfriend has suffered from sleep paralysis. The other night while he and I were lying in bed I heard what sounded like a clear, one second electronic beep come from either his head or just above his head. The sound was quite loud so I asked him what the sound was. He turned over and looked very surprised at me with wide eyes and said, "You heard that?!" And I said, "Of course I heard it, what was it?" My boyfriend then asked me to tell him exactly what I heard. I told him that I heard an electronic beep sound, a short one second beep/tone. My boyfriend could not believe it. He then proceeded to tell me that only on occasion (maybe 5 or 6 times in his entire life) he has heard an electronic beep when he either goes in or comes out of a sleep paralysis episode. He has always thought it was an auditory hallucination. He said that each time he has heard it, it sounded like the beep came from the inside of his head. He said that hearing the beep would be equivalent to when you hear ringing in your ears, because you know only you can hear it. He had no idea the beep was an external sound. My boyfriend has been most sincere and honest in relating to me his experiences with "the beep", so I very much believe him and what he says to be true.

  The reason my boyfriend was so shocked about this incident, is not because he heard the sleep paralysis beep again, but because of the fact that I heard it too. This experience has completely perked our interest, so the past several days I’ve done some internet research here and there to try and find anything remotely related to sleep paralysis and hearing an audible beep. Through this I gathered information about auditory hallucinations, which was no big help because, A.) I clearly heard the beep and was not hallucinating and B.) It would have been my boyfriend’s hallucination, not mine. It truly was an actual audible tone. I was, however, able to find several sleep paralysis forums and such, with quite a few people claiming to have also heard/experienced a similar electronic beep sound with a sleep paralysis episode. Not all the time, but periodically it is said to happen. Most of what I have found during the short amount of time I’ve been able to research is regarding UFO abductions. Now, neither my boyfriend nor myself are willing to go that far as to say he was abducted by aliens. He has no recollection or experience of such things. I am more than curious as to what this beep sound was, though.

   After the incident, we checked the room and all surrounding areas of the house. It’s an older house that doesn’t even have a smoke alarm, so it couldn’t have been what we heard. My boyfriend had no TV or any other electronic device in the room that would have created the sound we heard. I am still trying to wrap my brain around this because I know what I heard and I know it came from him, but I also know that it is physically impossible for the human body to emit such a sound as an electronic beep. My boyfriend and I have separately compared the sound we heard with an online frequency program and both of us came up with the sound being somewhere between the range of 680 and 700 HZ frequency. I don’t know whether that’s important or not, but it is the sound that I heard and the sound that my boyfriend has occasionally heard throughout his life. We would like to hear anyone’s opinion or thoughts. Does anyone have any information about this? Anyone experience something similar? What is this beep? And why was I able to hear it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is a legitimate question and I would be grateful for a legitimate response, please. Thank you very much!

Sheena, I have never experienced a beep sound, but the fact that you heard it as well is amazing. Do you know if your boyfriend has ever had any type of surgery where he was anestized? Has anyone who has sp here ever been through any surgery or anything where they were? Maybe there's some sort of link there.

Nick, I too have had an SP episode when I couldn't breathe. It kept happening everytime I tried to fall back to sleep. SP can be related to Sleep Apnea. Its a disorder inwhich you will stop breathing throughout the night. If this is happening during all or most of your SP episodes and you are waking up tired all of the time even on nights when you don't have SP I would definatley talk to a professional. There are things to help with sleep apnea. My dad has it and has to wear a mask at night that is hooked up to a small machine. He sleeps much better and wakes up refreshed instead of groggy.

Judith, I've also felt at least the sensation of being moved. It was my most frightening sp episode, it was before i ever knew there was a thing called sleep paralysis. I was going to sleep when a loud ringing began in my ears and a mans voice bellowed that god and the devil will do battle. It said it three times and every time it said battle my ears would ring so hard that i swore they were going to bleed. After the voice stopped I felt something or someone try to spread my legs apart. I've never told anyone that part of my episode because it's embarrasing to me. That experience had me shaking even the day after. But it forced me to research what was happening to me. And luckily I stumbled across this website. One of the most important things is to know that you're not alone. This website and everyone's timely responses honestly saved my sanity.

Michelle, thank you for sharing your story, it certainly makes me feel like I'm not the only one going through this and, I know people who write on this website will actually believe me when I share my experiences, it makes me feel quite emotional to at last be able to share these. I had another frightening experience on Friday night/Saturday morning where something not quite as intimate, but nevertheless unwanted happened to me, this made me very anxious when it came to bed time last night, but I did control my anxiety as I don't think it helps the situation and, I most certainly do not want to experience what happened again.

michelle/judith, i to have experienced some sort of movement while having an sp episode. while i was paralised i felt like some1 had a grip of my legs and was pulling me out of bed, then when i woke up my legs were hanging of the bed. this scared me alot, and i even looked under my bed convinced that someone had pulled me, reading evryones experiences on here has maade me a little more scared of sp. latley i feel its got worse, and im experiencing even more bizzar things. the other night i heard what sounded like a voice spkin thru somesort of microphone. again as have said i felt my body move as if i was in mid air, tho this time i was on my side. its getting to the stage im scared to go to sleep, im starting to have migranes n sleep with the light on some nights as almost as soon as i feel myself drift of to sleep i have a very faint vibration throught my body n i knw the sp is kicking in, sometimes i can jolt myself awake others its to late, it often happens 2 or 3 times in a row, giving me no time to wake up. i have in the past coped n remained relaxed in sp state, but now with these weird experiences n the frequency i find it hard to do that now, sometimes i sit up, n stay awake n then try n go back to sleep but it happens again probably another 2/3/4 times. recenly i have got up and not went bk to bed at all until the next night. which leaves me very tired n i find also this is when sp kicks in with me. or when i am tired but cnt sleep by time i get to sleep its interuppted with sp, so i cant win !