Stephen Vassilev 1379
 
05-13-2005 07:36 PM ET (US)
 Edited by author 05-13-2005 07:37 PM
With the recent complaints about the Freedom Tower in the news from the New York Police department, Donald Trump, members of the New York Fire department, Rudy Giuliani, and others:

Why not have a look at my World Trade Center designs
and WTC Memorial and tell me what you think of it.

http://www.geocities.com/buildingpreservationtech/index.html

Edited by author 05-11-2005 01:28 PM
Stephen Vassilev
Person was signed in when posted 493
05-11-2005 01:25 PM ET (US)
 
Edited by author 05-11-2005 01:27 PM
Now that the tower pinnacle is in doubt, wouldn't it be appropriate to have television show off all the suitable designs that were warded off by the LMDC?

Greg Mango is supposed to have a design, for example.There must be many good choices out there, seeing that the LMDC collected some 4000 designs in a two year period.

And what about the Memorial Competition? It left over 5200 designs available, of which a great many no doubt would be
an improvement over the current one.

What happened on MSNBC with respect to the double hulled
WTC proposal that would replace the old WTC? I had a friend with an exccessive amount of cable channels and yet when it came to MSNBC there was a phone number to call to arrange for service for a fee, apparently.

Can anyone describe what was shown and explained?
Thank you for your attention to this.

Edited by author 04-25-2005 05:31 PM
Stephen Vassilev 128
 
04-25-2005 05:28 PM ET (US)
 Edited by author 04-25-2005 05:29 PM
Stephen Vassilev 1348 First reported on the Flight 93 Discussion Board and at the WTC Memorial Competitions Discussion Board http://www.quicktopic.com/29/H/ep76gZ9uNxvdE:
 
04-25-2005 05:26 PM ET (US)
 Look at 26-487 above. It has memorial walls in the
Memorial Park as shown above at the Shanksville proposal.

It also has memorial walls in the upper plaza, which you can see at:

http://www.geocities.com/buildingpreservationtech/index.html

See the Interpretative Museum looking northeast and northwest, numbered on the page around
5 or 6 approximately.

Edited by author 04-22-2005 04:26 PM
Stephen Vassilev
 
04-22-2005 04:13 PM ET (US)
 April 22, 2005

For all those involved with the World Trade Center Memorial Competition:

Please see: http://www.geocities.com/bldgpt2/index.html
top right of page and the right column of entries.

Proof of Timely Shipment:

Yesterday, I was finally able to locate the original copy of the Customs receipt given to me on June 20, 2003 but since it was after 5 p.m., it was dated June 21, 2003, that is dated nine days before the closing date of the competition, June 30, 2003. The number is CE 113 083 046 CA.

(Color copy shown, front and back of receipt)

I made handy copies of the records, but these were stolen.

Some hidden copies, as a result of file splitting, survived.
The original Custom copy survives, but the payment receipt
was stolen.

The main photocopies of the presentation board were stolen but defective copies survived through file splitting.

2. US DOLLAR WORLD MONEY ORDER, Color copy, made out to World Trade Center Memorial Foundation, Inc. for $25.00, dated June 20, 2003.

3. Copy of Package:
Address with Shipping label and number CE 113 083 046 CA

4. Top of Presentation Board with Bar Code and Competition
Number 790213.

I will be presenting this information to the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation.

For those of you involved with court cases in the World Trade Center Memorial Competition, You are permitted to use this evidence to the extent possible. As it was not nearly so fully available during the original court presentation,
perhaps something can still be done.
There is the question of proper administrative processes that were required on the part of the LMDC and a failure to carry these out.

Stephen Vassilev, April 22, 2005

Edited by author 04-16-2005 04:42 PM
Stephen Vassilev 126
 
04-16-2005 04:28 PM ET (US)
 Stephen Vassilev 291
 
04-13-2005 06:55 PM ET (US)
 Edited by author 04-16-2005 04:26 PM
Ground Zero could be properly protected and look beautiful.

See the new images, that is, architectural renderings at:

http://www.geocities.com/buildingpreservat...neredtrees72dq8.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/buildingpreservat...nwredtrees72dq8.jpg

These addresses may not be responding here or from Cityslob's World Trade Center Memorial discussion board. But these same web addresses are responding from the WTC & 911 Memorial Competitions discussion board here,when the data transfer rate is not exceeded due to heavy visitor traffic.

Why should trees be sticking out of holes in the ground in symmetrical fashion when a natural park like setting, as shown here, is much more attractive?

When these images were added to the website, the data transfer rate was exceeded and the images were not visible. The images can now be seen when visitor traffic is lower.

Chrisjohn316 /m7468 You're welcome, chrisjohn.

[img]http://images.animationfactory.com/animati...uzzy_mad_lg_clr.gif [/img]

Stephen Vassilev thanks for the heads up.

Edited by author 03-02-2005 01:12 PM
Chrisjohn: You can visit me at:

WTC & 9/11 Memorial Competititons board:

http://www.quicktopic.com/29/H/ep76gZ9uNxvdE


The Flight 93 Memorial Discussion Board is at:

http://www.quicktopic.com/27/H/2cAqUig3t5siR

Cityslob / Jeffrey Johns is posting World Trade
Center Memorial posts on his World Trade Center Memorial board at:

http://www.quicktopic.com/29/H/uDY4ZXaPpMD

Edited by author 02-27-2005 03:32 AM
G'day everyone,

Have you heard of American comedian David Armand from Hollow Men?

He is miming to Natalie Imbruglia's "Torn".

This is very cool!

http://www.chrisjohn316.com/mime_chrisjohn316.html

Edit correction: I said he was American, but he is a Brit.

Seconded!

Edited by author 02-24-2005 11:29 AM
dead.... Good!

From the article:

Juror M. Paul Friedberg, landscape architect and professor emeritus, City College of New York, said, "What this jury has done is only the beginning of the process. ... We have identified five different approaches that are really significantly different, and therefore worthy of further exploration."
 
In the end, he said, "...Very few of us really looked for a monumental design. We felt that that would not be timeless. And it was inappropriate. ... We wanted something of power, but not something overpowering."

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-re...ional/s_300646.html

Edited by author 02-11-2005 02:20 AM
From the article:

"The design must also balance the public and private. The site will be a national memorial but relatives have said they would like a private area to visit and grieve.

"The difficulties were apparent in the jury's report about the five finalists. The jury called monuments and markers in some of the designs 'too subtle and understated' and questioned the symbols used to represent the victims in others.

"The jury also recommended that another designer 're-evaluate that family members must use the same approach to the Sacred Ground as the public, which may compromise the families' desire for privacy.'"


http://www.nepanews.com/site/news.cfm?news...ept_id=465812&rfi=6

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News Link Comment: the goal of separating the public from Sacred Ground seems to have been absolute.

I think we should all thank the jury for punking out on this one. The finalists are too subtle, passive, unimaginative. I aint gonna drive for hours to see any of these, and would wager that most out there woudl side with me. I think the greatest shame is that these concepts are so passive that the event in which they are supposed to be memorializing, perhaps the greatest act of spontaneous courage and valor in American history, will be lost forever in the soup of the american psyche.

Sounds like any kind of proposed monument was immediately dismissed and not even considered for an honorable mention. I find it hard to believe that a monument on this site could be considered "overpowering" when a 200 foot tall dragline barely obscures the skyline. It is a fallacy that some kind of monument was not even given a chance, in which case the public could at least be given the chance to react.

Oh, and even a landscape architect like myself knows that "respecting the rural landscape" does not mean that all the site elements have to be built from fieldstone and sticks.

News Link. You have posted many excellent links. I should have contributed in the past, but the board had many arrogant and insulting posts. You continued to post news links and I "Thank You" for your efforts.

I found the following info from your latest news link: "How should future generations consider the events of 9/11 and the people caught up in them? "In 100 years, all new people," as the writer Anne Lamott likes to say. The memorial should be as much for them as for us."

It was an excellent observation. I plan to send an e-mail to the reporter explaining the damage that occurs when Future Americans are prohibited from contributing to the Flight 93 "Field of Honor."