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loser  7492
09-28-2006 02:06 PM ET (US)
go fuck katie then. enjoy her pie face while youiare at it. you ruined n\my son's life.
Stephen VassilevPerson was signed in when posted  7491
06-25-2006 01:47 AM ET (US)
The design at http://www.geocities.com/buildingpreservationtech/index.html

is superior in design to what is currently offered architecturally, in its memorial functions, incorporating sporitual components, having a diversified mixed use for the buildings, and with respect to safety.
Stephen VassilevPerson was signed in when posted  7490
06-25-2006 01:44 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 06-25-2006 01:45 AM
Stephen Vassilev 616

06-25-2006 01:42 AM ET (US)
The current situation at the World Trade Center regarding admission fees would not be such a burning issue had the WTC designs at http://www.geocities.com/buildingpreservationtech/index.html been followed.
That mixed use design would have attracted so much activity, that the entrance fees would not be a worrying issue.
 

Stephen Vassilev 615

06-25-2006 01:40 AM ET (US)
Jane Jacobs recenlty died and a Memorial Celebration of her life was held in Toronto.
War  7489
05-15-2006 10:27 AM ET (US)
What is it good for?
Stephen VassilevPerson was signed in when posted  7488
03-25-2006 11:03 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-25-2006 11:04 AM
First posted on the World Trade Center Memorial Competition Discussion Board:


Stephen Vassilev 7487
 
03-25-2006 11:02 AM ET (US)
 Saturday, March 25, 2006

To see an above ground Memorial Museum at Ground Zero, please
see:

http://www.geocities.com/buildingpreservationtech/index.html
The Memorial Park could be raised. When sunken down some feet or more, it offers more privacy to grieving family members, while retaining the sky above.

Stephen Vassilev 7479
 
05-25-2005 04:35 PM ET (US)
 Edited by author 05-25-2005 04:37 PM
It is now possible to see the amount of green space in the following WTC design with the roof gardens now illustrated
in four corner buildings:

4.7 acres Memorial site.
One to two acres northeast of this, at least 1.5
Perhaps 3/4 acres surrounding the buildings
One to 1.5 acres as roof top gardens, at least one acre.
So there's about 8 to 9 acres of green space.

On Oct 11 2002 in a Vision for Lower Manhattan, the LMDC said: As a densely developed and historically rich place Lower Manhattan has relatively little park and recreational space. This lack of park and open space in Lower Manhattan is a major problem,...

With roof top gardens, please see WTC Architectural Images, looking north, image 1. at:
http://www.geocities.com/buildingpreservationtech/index.html
Stephen VassilevPerson was signed in when posted  7487
03-25-2006 11:02 AM ET (US)
Saturday, March 25, 2006

To see an above ground Memorial Museum at Ground Zero, please
see:

http://www.geocities.com/buildingpreservationtech/index.html
The Memorial Park could be raised. When sunken down some feet or more, it offers more privacy to grieving family members, while retaining the sky above.

Stephen Vassilev 7479
 
05-25-2005 04:35 PM ET (US)
 Edited by author 05-25-2005 04:37 PM
It is now possible to see the amount of green space in the following WTC design with the roof gardens now illustrated
in four corner buildings:

4.7 acres Memorial site.
One to two acres northeast of this, at least 1.5
Perhaps 3/4 acres surrounding the buildings
One to 1.5 acres as roof top gardens, at least one acre.
So there's about 8 to 9 acres of green space.

On Oct 11 2002 in a Vision for Lower Manhattan, the LMDC said: As a densely developed and historically rich place Lower Manhattan has relatively little park and recreational space. This lack of park and open space in Lower Manhattan is a major problem,...

With roof top gardens, please see WTC Architectural Images, looking north, image 1. at:
http://www.geocities.com/buildingpreservationtech/index.html
Stephen VassilevPerson was signed in when posted  7486
12-06-2005 11:22 AM ET (US)
While there is evidence of further explosions in the lower parts of the WTC, the conclusions in the previous article have various flaws. I am not at liberty at this time to say why.
Buddy  7485
11-26-2005 11:04 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 11-26-2005 11:07 PM
Y. professor thinks bombs, not planes, toppled WTC

By Elaine Jarvik/Deseret Morning News

 The physics of 9/11 — including how fast and symmetrically one of the World Trade Center buildings fell — prove that official explanations of the collapses are wrong, says a Brigham Young University physics professor.
      In fact, it's likely that there were "pre-positioned explosives" in all three buildings at ground zero, says Steven E. Jones.
      In a paper posted online Tuesday and accepted for peer-reviewed publication next year, Jones adds his voice to those of previous skeptics, including the authors of the Web site http://www.wtc7.net/, whose research Jones quotes. Jones' article can be found at
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html.
 Stuart Johnson, Deseret Morning News" It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three (WTC) buildings," BYU physics professor Steven E. Jones says. Jones, who conducts research in fusion and solar energy at BYU, is calling for an independent, international scientific investigation "guided not by politicized notions and constraints but rather by observations and calculations.
      "It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three buildings and set off after the two plane crashes — which were actually a diversion tactic," he writes. "Muslims are (probably) not to blame for bringing down the WTC buildings after all," Jones writes.
      As for speculation about who might have planted the explosives, Jones said, "I don't usually go there. There's no point in doing that until we do the scientific investigation."
      Previous investigations, including those of FEMA, the 9/11 Commission and NIST (the National Institutes of Standards and Technology), ignore the physics and chemistry of what happened on Sept. 11, 2001, to the Twin Towers and the 47-story building known as WTC 7, he says. The official explanation — that fires caused structural damage that caused the buildings to collapse — can't be backed up by either testing or history, he says.
      Jones acknowledges that there have been "junk science" conspiracy theories about what happened on 9/11, but "the explosive demolition hypothesis better satisfies tests of repeatability and parsimony and therefore is not 'junk science.' "
       In a 9,000-word article that Jones says will be published in the book "The Hidden History of 9/11," by Elsevier, Jones offers these arguments:
      • The three buildings collapsed nearly symmetrically, falling down into their footprints, a phenomenon associated with "controlled demolition" — and even then it's very difficult, he says. "Why would terrorists undertake straight-down collapses of WTC-7 and the Towers when 'toppling over' falls would require much less work and would do much more damage in downtown Manhattan?" Jones asks. "And where would they obtain the necessary skills and access to the buildings for a symmetrical implosion anyway? The 'symmetry data' emphasized here, along with other data, provide strong evidence for an 'inside' job."

      • No steel-frame building, before or after the WTC buildings, has ever collapsed due to fire. But explosives can effectively sever steel columns, he says.

      • WTC 7, which was not hit by hijacked planes, collapsed in 6.6 seconds, just .6 of a second longer than it would take an object dropped from the roof to hit the ground. "Where is the delay that must be expected due to conservation of momentum, one of the foundational laws of physics?" he asks. "That is, as upper-falling floors strike lower floors — and intact steel support columns — the fall must be significantly impeded by the impacted mass. . . . How do the upper floors fall so quickly, then, and still conserve momentum in the collapsing buildings?" The paradox, he says, "is easily resolved by the explosive demolition hypothesis, whereby explosives quickly removed lower-floor material, including steel support columns, and allow near free-fall-speed collapses." These observations were not analyzed by FEMA, NIST nor the 9/11 Commission, he says.

      • With non-explosive-caused collapse there would typically be a piling up of shattering concrete. But most of the material in the towers was converted to flour-like powder while the buildings were falling, he says. "How can we understand this strange behavior, without explosives? Remarkable, amazing — and demanding scrutiny since the U.S. government-funded reports failed to analyze this phenomenon."

      • Horizontal puffs of smoke, known as squibs, were observed proceeding up the side the building, a phenomenon common when pre-positioned explosives are used to demolish buildings, he says.

      • Steel supports were "partly evaporated," but it would require temperatures near 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit to evaporate steel — and neither office materials nor diesel fuel can generate temperatures that hot. Fires caused by jet fuel from the hijacked planes lasted at most a few minutes, and office material fires would burn out within about 20 minutes in any given location, he says.

      • Molten metal found in the debris of the World Trade Center may have been the result of a high-temperature reaction of a commonly used explosive such as thermite, he says. Buildings not felled by explosives "have insufficient directed energy to result in melting of large quantities of metal," Jones says.

      • Multiple loud explosions in rapid sequence were reported by numerous observers in and near the towers, and these explosions occurred far below the region where the planes struck, he says.

      Jones says he became interested in the physics of the WTC collapse after attending a talk last spring given by a woman who had had a near-death experience. The woman mentioned in passing that "if you think the World Trade Center buildings came down just due to fire, you have a lot of surprises ahead of you," Jones remembers, at which point "everyone around me started applauding."
      Following several months of study, he presented his findings at a talk at BYU in September.
      Jones says he would like the government to release 6,899 photographs and 6,977 segments of video footage for "independent scrutiny." He would also like to analyze a small sample of the molten metal found at Ground Zero.

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,635160132,00.html
Miss America  7484
11-22-2005 02:20 PM ET (US)
(ahem) where is the party?
CityslobPerson was signed in when posted  7483
11-20-2005 01:08 PM ET (US)
Deleted by author 11-20-2005 01:08 PM
crack whore  7482
11-16-2005 08:35 AM ET (US)
where's the party?
Stephen VassilevPerson was signed in when posted  7481
11-15-2005 08:02 PM ET (US)
What do you mean, Stone?

We would need some people supporting this discussion board.
Stone  7480
10-21-2005 09:13 PM ET (US)
Let's get the band back together. Whadya say?
Stephen VassilevPerson was signed in when posted  7479
05-25-2005 04:35 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 05-25-2005 04:37 PM
It is now possible to see the amount of green space in the following WTC design with the roof gardens now illustrated
in four corner buildings:

4.7 acres Memorial site.
One to two acres northeast of this, at least 1.5
Perhaps 3/4 acres surrounding the buildings
One to 1.5 acres as roof top gardens, at least one acre.
So there's about 8 to 9 acres of green space.

On Oct 11 2002 in a Vision for Lower Manhattan, the LMDC said: As a densely developed and historically rich place Lower Manhattan has relatively little park and recreational space. This lack of park and open space in Lower Manhattan is a major problem,...

With roof top gardens, please see WTC Architectural Images, looking north, image 1. at:
http://www.geocities.com/buildingpreservationtech/index.html
Stephen VassilevPerson was signed in when posted  7478
05-17-2005 05:28 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 05-17-2005 05:24 PM
Describing the recent changes, revisions, or new images added:

The following design images have either been revised or newly added to a WTC proposal at

http://www.geocities.com/buildingpreservationtech/index.html :

WTC Architecture Images:

1. Revised signature image of WTC looking north.(posted May
17, 2005)

The signature image has received an updated perspective for the Cinema,
an improved residential building, a horizon, gardens and upgraded restaurant,
the Barclay buildings more detailed and their middle and end sections aligned horizontally, more colour. It is also noted that since 7 WTC is built, a second such tower eventually could be add the symmetry in the WTC section under the skybridges. The Promenade over Vesey Street should be retained for security purposes.

3. WTC Plan 4 looking east is revised to show only one height for the
Twin Tower structure.(rather than showing 2 heights in one image).
 
4. WTC Site Plan has a Phased Construction proposal for phased development.
 
5. WTC Museum looking northeast is upgraded. (reported
a few weeks ago. Did you see this?)
6. WTC Museum looking northwest is upgraded. (reported a few weeks ago.)
 
6a Memorial Window display sampling for each tower, Interpretative museum, and Memorial Chamber is illustrated along with the blast resistant feature of using vertical arched walls perpendicular to the perimeter of the buildings, as well as cross-bracing of reinforced concrete in the ceilings. (posted on website May 11, 2005)
 
What is nice, is that you can combine beauty with blast resistant functionality, even while it reminds us that Gothic and other arches
had their own safety uses in times past!
 

7. What the Memorial Chamber (red) might look like at Ground Level with the pit raised. View 1 View 2
(posted on WTC site May 17, 2005)

You might have seen this in the Flight 93 work, but not with the WTC website.


WTC Memorial Images
2. WTC Memorial Park Close up.(revised version posted
on WTC website May 17, 2005)

You could have seen this in the Flight 93 work. By bringing it to the WTC website, people get to see the upgrades with respect to the WTC work.


4. WTC Memorial Fountain with People (May 17, 2005)
This was not seen in its revised form with the WTC work,
but only in the Flight 93 competition work.
Stephen VassilevPerson was signed in when posted  7477
05-17-2005 05:27 PM ET (US)
Stephen Vassilev 557
 
05-17-2005 03:36 PM ET (US)
 Edited by author 05-17-2005 05:21 PM
The following design images have either been revised or newly added to a WTC proposal at

http://www.geocities.com/buildingpreservationtech/index.html :

WTC Architecture Images:

1. Revised signature image of WTC looking north.(posted May
17, 2005)

The signature image has received an updated perspective for the Cinema,
an improved residential building, a horizon, gardens and upgraded restaurant,
the Barclay buildings more detailed and their middle and end sections aligned horizontally, more colour. It is also noted that since 7 WTC is built, a second such tower eventually could be add the symmetry in the WTC section under the skybridges. The Promenade over Vesey Street should be retained for security purposes.

3. WTC Plan 4 looking east is revised to show only one height for the
Twin Tower structure.(rather than showing 2 heights in one image).
 
4. WTC Site Plan has a Phased Construction proposal for phased development.
 
5. WTC Museum looking northeast is upgraded. (reported
a few weeks ago. Did you see this?)
6. WTC Museum looking northwest is upgraded. (reported a few weeks ago.)
 
6a Memorial Window display sampling for each tower, Interpretative museum, and Memorial Chamber is illustrated along with the blast resistant feature of using vertical arched walls perpendicular to the perimeter of the buildings, as well as cross-bracing of reinforced concrete in the ceilings. (posted on website May 11, 2005)
 
What is nice, is that you can combine beauty with blast resistant functionality, even while it reminds us that Gothic and other arches
had their own safety uses in times past!
 

7. What the Memorial Chamber (red) might look like at Ground Level with the pit raised. View 1 View 2
(posted on WTC site May 17, 2005)

You might have seen this in the Flight 93 work, but not with the WTC website.


WTC Memorial Images
2. WTC Memorial Park Close up.(revised version posted
on WTC website May 17, 2005)

You could have seen this in the Flight 93 work. By bringing it to the WTC website, people get to see the upgrades with respect to the WTC work.


4. WTC Memorial Fountain with People (May 17, 2005)
This was not seen in its revised form with the WTC work,
but only in the Flight 93 competition work.
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