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Chipper3 - I am a little annoyed at Deanna because of her indeciveness (did I spell that correct) as to whether or not to run for re-election or not. Let me first say that the letter written by Cindy Trimble, Chairman of the Beacon GOP, a couple of weeks ago to the Beacon Free Press was uncalled for and selfish. I believe it harmed the Republican candidate in the 1st Ward - Andrew Forman. What did Cindy accomplish by writing this letter? Other than to rile up people like Deanna and Marlene.

For Deanna to act as if the Beacon GOP abandoned her couldn't be further from the truth. Another strike against the GOP Chairman, she had an arbitrary date for Deanna to make up her mind as to whether to run or not. Deanna in the past likes to wait for the last possible minute to notify the party her intentions whether to run or not. In the past, the GOP had no choice, because there really weren't any candidates coming forward to make the committment to run. That wasn't the case in 2009. Several people stepped up and showed interest. Deanna wants to tell everyone the GOP gave her the boot. The reality is, Deanna just can't make a decision.

For her to actively campaign against Andrew Forman and come up with stories like the GOP gave her the boot shows NO CLASS for Deanna. This is after the party - CARRIED HER - on every single election!

Jerry Landisi is an excellent candidate (which is why the GOP recruited him in 2007 to run). He wasn't exactly up front with his participation during this process either. For him to accuse the "Forman family" of "stacking the deck" for Andrew Forman to get the GOP nomination for the 1st Ward again - couldn't be further from the truth. The party actually nominated Justin Riccobono to run in this ward and had asked Andrew to run At-Large. After Andrew explained to the committee of his lack of time to campaign city-wide - they switched the two. But Landisi tells people that somehow the Formans orchestrated this.

My point is, Cindy made a mistake requiring these candidates to make their decision by such an early date - Deanna probably wouldn't have made up her mind with ANY date Cindy had picked. Alot of this mumbo - jumbo could have been avoided with a common sense apporach.

Live and Learn

Edited by author 11-05-2009 11:30 AM
The selection of candidate process in both parties is equally lacking as to not attract the best candidates as far as I am concerned. It's clear that the Republican party leadership opted to air their dirty laundry in public to try to stick it to a couple individuals. Waste of time and shows nothing more than bad leadership picking bad candidates. Read my lips.. old news. I don't care. Start worrying about the 15% tax increase.. how to pursuade city hall that this is absolutely not acceptable and to make the necessary cuts to get it down below 10% at the very least.

Time to form a shadow government. For instance, let the losers in ward 1, 2, 4 and at large form a shadow government, Lou can represent Ward 3. Let the losers work on an opposition platform monthly before the public. Lets see all the actions of the previous month be reviewed in a public meeting monthly where the losers can discuss and vote on matters as if they themselves were in office.

While this would require work and difficult decisions on the budget it would hold the elected council's feet to the fire. Then over time let the losers who are not going to run in 2011, be replaced with a slate of individuals who seek to be nominated for the next round.

In sum it is easy to carp from the outside, but perhaps the most instructive measure would be for those who seek a voice should show now how they would lead the city out of this mess.

The meeting could take place in brothers dining room at say the first Monday of the month, and could come with diner and act as a fund raiser and be aired on cable. I bet those who attend as an audience might be willing to pay say $35. a head and get one free cocktail with a choice from among three entrees.

Loyal voters could assign themselves as staff to each fake council member to act as researchers and assemble documents for public consideration.

In sum, the voting is about power and ego but if people really wanted to make a better city and focused group of citizens could drive the Council into action....just as the rich property owners with their own motives have done.

In sum loyal opposition if organized with the right motives can pretty well chart the cities future outside of office given the motives and skill set of those elected.

never mind....

All I heard was that a potential voter got a call from a candidate, or on behalf of one, where his called ID read "BCSD", as if they were making the calls from a public school or whatever?

DaScoop was delete a perfectly good question for CV?

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Ahh CV your getting warmer...Now ask yourself who else is on the
client list.......

I don't begrudge Mansfield making a living. My concern was/is that he might have to disqualify himself from many important discussions facing the City Council because of financial conflicts -- either he does business with some of the parties or the decisions could affect his property values -- or because of his legal history with the City.

But I don't know how the City administers conflict of interest other than it is written into the city code as a no no. Is it an honor system? Can a citizen refer appearances of conflict to the ethics committee? Can Council decisions made when conflicts were present be voided? Should Council deliberations conducted when a conflict may be present be suspended until the issue is resolved?

I guess some clarification is in order.

Now that this board is "alive" again with inside pertinent information, at least for a spell, it's just so darn unfair not to be able to see the deleted post!! (smile)

Edited by author 11-05-2009 06:03 PM
wbl - I am agreeing with you on your last two posts. What did DaScoop say?

Gebman - What the heck?? Can we call the group 'Losers' and they wear L's on their foreheads. Does Lou live in Ward 3? He can't cover the ward if he doesn't live in it. You are only trying to sway NMorgan to meet you, as you want this group to meet at Brothers.


GMIP - I think if the Riccobono and Forman were swapped, it would have changed the outcome. I agree with you, it was an unprofessional letter to the editor.

Your personal life definitely enters politics (Bill Clinton, Gary Hart are a couple who know that) but who would think that your interview for the party discussions would get out to the public by the head of that party. Makes you not want to say anything at that meeting, it can be used against you months later.

Kudos to Clark for his undressing the council on Erlich's assessments which are verging on criminal.Hats off to you.

THAT'S IT FOR ME! If Clark is undressing ANYTHING I'm OUT of HERE!

huh...wait....when are we meeting at Brothers??

NMorgan--that was after the orgy...

C3 a shaddow government does not have rules. What do you have against lou?

Maybe the losers group can dress up like the real councilpeople!

Also...CV, since all councilpeople are homeowners/taxpayers in the City of Beacon, would that constitute a conflict of interest for all?

/m30854

No, of course not. Why take a serious issue and reduce it to the level of the absurd? I know politics is a game around here, but there are people hurting. Decisions have to be made and actions taken. No one wants those decisions to be nullified or questioned because of a nonchalant attitude toward self-interest.