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Zach WellsPerson was signed in when posted  18
04-06-2004 03:51 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-06-2004 03:54 PM
I think it bears mentioning that the reverse is also true. Sure, we can pick up a Heaney or Hughes or Muldoon at the local blockbuster chain, but most of what's going on now across the pond seems to stay there.

A great, tho unfortunate, example of this was at the Blue Metropolis festival a few years ago. Robin Robertson, one of the foremost British poets writing today--I highly recommend both his books--was a guest of the festival. But he had no books to sell because the copies he'd brought along with him had been mishandled by the airline. There was none available otherwise in Montreal. And Robertson is published by Picador, which is far from a small press.

The Canada Council has probably done some good things for fostering growth in poetry in this country, but I think we've arrived at a point where it's more of a hindrance in some ways. I'd love to see more international partnerships between small presses; to have our presses' lists rounded out not by middling native writers, but by the best available abroad in English and in translation. And, conversely, the best of our poets rounding out the UK, Australian, New Zealand, American presses' lists. There's some of this going on; Brian Bartlett's new Selected has been co-published by Goose Lane in Canada and Peterloo Poets in Cornwall England. And Anansi's new collaboration with Graywolf Press in the States, New British Poetry, edited by Scot Don Paterson and Yankee Charles Simic, is a terrific undertaking and will, one hopes, lead to similar projects in the future. But it'll be tough unless the Council does more to encourage a broader, less provincial, outlook.

Speaking of Acorn, I recently introduced him to our American friend and occasional vistor, Loren Webster. Loren asked me where he could get a collection of his work and I was embarassed, on behalf of my, um, culture, to say that there was no comprehensive edition in print. This is another point of emphasis I'd like to see shifted: away from the tsunami of new titles and more towards keeping in circulation the best of past generations. The ground we've cleared is meaningless if we let it grow in again behind us.
Todd Swift  19
04-08-2004 05:34 AM ET (US)
Zach

It may be different now, but when I was editing the anthology for Vehicule, Poetry Nation, we had to look at a Can-Con balance to get Council funding. In that way, the plan for a more representative international collection was slightly skewed. My new DC anthology, due out in 2005, will hopefully feature poets from all places where English poetry is written, while still maintaining a strong awareness of current Canadian poetry. If funding is now available to publish international poets, that would be good news.

I am reviewing New British Poetry at the moment, for a fine periodical, so will remain silent on the subject for now.

I will say one: how times change! I recall co-editing my first (Northern Irish) anthology in 1987-1988 (hence I was 20-21 then) and had visited Paul Muldoon at Cambridge. We spent the day together. He gave me some useful leads. Later, I met Paul Muldoon again for a Chinese dinner in Vermont somewhere, with Sharon Rustin and Martin Mooney (this still 1987 I think). At any rate, although Terry Eagleton gave Map-Maker's Colours a fine review in (it may be the TLS) and Billy Bragg enjoyed it, we had adevil of a time selling it in Canada then. People kept saying to me - why publish their poetry, what about ours? I saw the connexion then, as I do now, you see, between various poetic communities. Oddly enough, Linda Leith wrote a good review of that anthology then; now I gather she runs a Montreal international literary festival.

In 1988 I called for a "English Quebec Renaissance" of poetry. Looks like that has somewhat happened.

Or, at the very least, Canadians are less uncertain about how to relate to poetry from elsewhere. Then again, Canadians still do tend to be a tad deferential still.


Todd
ZW  20
06-26-2004 09:43 PM ET (US)
If anyone knows of any material written by or about Peter Van Toorn, I'd appreciate it greatly if you could point me in its direction. I've already got a hold of the essay anthology "The Insecurity of Art" and an essay by Douglas Burnet Smith. I also know of an essay by PVT in the Antigonish Review from 1983. To pass info on to me, either post here, or even better email me: frozenbard at yahoo dot ca

Many thanks.
kevin  21
06-27-2004 08:39 PM ET (US)
This might help

- The Pain Called Babel
 Van-Toorn,-Peter
Antigonish-Review. 1983 Spring; 53: 99-107.
 literary-forms; translation-
  
- Another Carp on the Nuclear Harp
 Van-Toorn,-Peter
 Antigonish-Review. 1982 Autumn; 51: 127-134.
 American-literature; 1900-1999; poetry-; relationship to typewriter-; graphic-form; study example Pound,-Ezra (1885-1972); Black-Mountain-poets
  
- Handy Handles
 Van-Toorn,-Peter
 The- Antigonish-Review. 1982 Winter; 48: 31-35.
 genres-; poetry-; titles-
ZW  22
06-27-2004 08:41 PM ET (US)
Thanks, Kevin. The first two I've tracked down, but the third is news to me.
Jaarian  23
11-07-2007 02:15 AM ET (US)
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